The BroadCast: 10/15/2018 ~ A Feature on Markelle Fultz

I look at it as you know and blessing. Ahead of this year's season opener, we'll speak with Folts plus venture into enemy territory and get some nuggets on the Boston Celtics, where you've got Irving and Hayward coming back. Everyone is jacked up around here about what this team can accomplish. It's gonna be really interesting to see if it can all come together. Coming up on this episode of the broadcast, is it could it be? Yes? Just about time for the start of the twenty eighteen nineteen

regular season. What's going on at there? Brian Seltzer saying hello and welcome to the broadcast. We are finally going to be talking about fresh Sixers basketball of consequence. As the Sixers open things up Tuesday night at ted Garden against the Boston Celtics. In addition to our feature on markl Foltz, we're going to hear from Mark Demiko, who does what I do for Celtics dot Com. He'll give us a sense of what's been happening with the seas

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We'll be entering the new season with the same type of intrigue surrounding him as Mark el Foltz will. Coming up through the amateur ranks. There was obviously so much potential about faults, and then there was last season at the twenty seventeen consents, number one pick wasn't able to consistently stay on the floor, but an offseason of tireless work reading in bolden sense of inner belief in the twenty year old, and it showed during an encouraging preseason.

Folts both seems and sounds like he's going to very much be a factor this year. I'm feeling great, you know, really confident. I put him a lot of work to summer preseason. You know, I got a chance to go out dare and build my chemistry with my teammates. So

I feeling really good. Just before training camp started a few weeks ago, I had the chance to spend a few minutes with Folts and our conversation started talking about the summer he spent mostly in Los Angeles training with Drew Hanlon and guys like Joel Ebiden former teammate Justin Anderson. It was a regiment that yielded Brett Brown estimated about one hundred and fifty thousand total shots. Pretty much. My summer preparation was crazy this year. You know, I literally

was sleeping in the gym. I woke up in the morning, I worked out, I wanted to go eat, came back and work out, and then I would come back at nineing workouts. Was pretty much doing you know, three workouts a day. I was trying to get lifts in, but you know, at the end of the day, I was just grinding, you know, getting back to the love of working hard to get what you want. And that's literally what it's been the whole summer. And I had a

little like little to numb breaks, you know. I had to go to China a little bit for you know, for things, but even out there, I had a great time just interacting with fans and then coming back just getting close to, you know, that feeling of being back in the season. You know, as it got closer and closer, I got more and more excited just to be able to, you know, just showcase myself and get back around to people that you know made me happy last year, like

my teammates and everything. So I'm pretty excited. One hundred and fifty thousand shots. Is that an accurate number? I think that's actually a little bit lower than what I shot because you know, those are just shots that I shot in gym. Those are not the shots you know that people don't see like at home and I'm just shooting around or when I go to the playground and play. So I mean I definitely shot one hundred and fifty

thousand shots. You know, I put it in a lot, a lot of hours, but it wasn't about the shots really, it was about the hard work that I put And I didn't do it for, you know, for the publicity. I did it for myself just to get an outcome that I want it and I'm happy with the work I put in. So what do you think made the fit with you, Drew Hanlon and this team's developed program work over the summer. I just think it was just

an openness. You know. He was opening and try to help me, and I was just opening, you know, working with him. You know, it was something different for me. So for both of us, it was just you know, we found a way. We both have a love for a game, and he was willing to, you know, to put in hours and the gym just like I was.

So it just happened that we both you know, and he has summer in my teammates, you know, he had he worked out justin Joel, So it was just cool, you know, to be around my teammates and just grind. So I'm thankful for what he's done. That Folks was looking to surround himself with more people who made him feel comfortable. It's easy to understand, especially given hell last year went. After peering in the six ers first four games the regular season, he was shut down due to

scapular muscle and balance in his shoulder. It wouldn't be until March when Brett Brown made a surprise and ouncement before home game against the Denver Nuggets that we'd see Folts again in uniform. I want to tell you something about Mark L. Folts. He's going to play tonight. Mark LL Folks will play tonight. It was his decision. It's been fluid, you know. I get goosebumps telling you all that,

I'm so proud of him. Just listening to that SoundBite, you know you can hear it usually Steady Brown was emotional that night, and it made sense. Folts had been through so much it still managed to persevere through it all and get back on the court. He'd gone to appear in the six ER's final ten regular season games and three more in the playoffs in the series against

the Miami Heats. Yes, Folts definitely had to endure more than his fair share of adversity in twenty seventeen eighteen, but in some ways it's been a way of life that's become familiar to him. Talk about adversity obstacles. I mean I've been going through that since I was young. It started at a young gay you're just trying to make a varsity and getting cut there and then all

the way. So you can go back to my last year in the NBA, you know, um just uh the year I had, you know, I had an injury happening and I wasn't able to be my normalself on the court and I had to fight through you know, going against the media, going against you know, just wanting to

do something that I love and I couldn't do it anymore. So, um, going through that, it was just you know tough, and I had to stick to my roots of what got me here, you know, just working hard, believing in my family and support system and and just praying and going by by that. You're expanding that a little bit deep instead have helped you push through and overcome some of

the stuff that you've gone up again. Sure, the biggest support, um that I had going through these obstacles and you know tough times is definitely my mom, you know, coach, my teammates, you know, and just praying and then just working hard really so you know, my mom has been there no matter what, you know, just telling me that I got here for a reason and it's it's a

reason I got here. And then just being able to come into you know where I work at and my workplace and just have my team, you know, supporting me no matter what, and having a coach and you know front office that that understands what's going on with me. It just helped you, you know, want to fight more for not only yourself, but your teammates and your loved ones.

If you've been around folks at all or read up on him or filed parts of his career, you know that his mom, Ebony, is a really important figure in his life. So when he mentioned her as part of the support group and the source of strength she's helped provide him, we talked about her some more. Describe my mother first, hardcore First. My mom is you know, loving, caring, over protective, sweet, smart, strong. I can go on and on, but my mom is really I think she's a superhero.

So what are some of the sacrifices she's made in your life to help you. My mom has made plenty of sacrifices, you know, from you know, working two jobs just for me to be able to go to work out with a trainer, or go to camps, or get the shoes that I wanted to, you know, sacrificing her meal for me to eat, and now you know her being a single mom, it was tough for her, but she she always seemed to always have a smile on her face when she was around me or my sister

around people. So my mom made a lot of sacrifices. I'm thankful for it. She still does anything that drives me crazy. Ah, yeah, she always you know that mom is always gonna be mom. I'm a mom's but I'm not ashamed admitted. But you know, she still does little things but like lick her finger and try to get stuff off my face, and like still try to kiss me in front of everybody, and little stuff like that.

But you know, I don't like it. But at the same time, I'm still appreciative of having a mom that's to care so much about me. There have been plenty of people inside the six Ers organization who have leaned into faults, with the recently promoted general manager Elton Brand being one of them. Brand isn't just a former player, but he's a former number one pick as well, so

he had faults of that in common. The relationship has seemed to help, all right, man, Elton, You know we chatted since I first got drafted here, you know, just him being an ex player and then you know, just his experience that he's been through, you know, being a player, and now he's of course the GM. He just talks about, you know, just keeping the confidence really and just knowing what I can do on and off the court, and

how great of a guy I am. And I'm really appreciative, you know, to have somebody I just want to talk to somebody that knows a lot, but it's different to talk to somebody who's actually been through what you've been through. So just being able to talk to somebody who was a number one pick and had a lot of expectation and playing and Philly, you know, it's really is different from most organizations. It was. It was just dope. You don't have to be a pro athlete to know that

playing in Philadelphia is a different kind of beast. We know how the town is and it's what makes it so great. But put yourself for a moment in False's nikes and consider the circumstances that surrounded him a season ago, nineteen years old, linked to a major trade, injury issues, expectations, all that. Yeah, it's the life false chose, but that didn't mean it was easy. In the year and changed. Since he's been in Philadelphia, m b native has come to love the city and all it has to offer.

It's nothing like Philly, you know, it's it's it's a love hate city. But they definitely love you more than they hate you. But they're gonna let you know if you're not if you're not doing what you're supposed to do, and that's what I love about it. I want somebody to hold me accountable for if I'm not doing something. So Philly is gonna be behind you and they're gonna root for you. But you better not stink it up

or you're gonna you're gonna know. So give me some favorite things to do in the city, favorite places to visit, eat, stuff like that. Okay, first of all, we're gonna go with favorite place to eat and it has to be Chick fil A, no matter where it's at in Philly. Any Chick fil A, I'll come to you, you know, hit you up. But you know, favorite things to do, I'll just like you know, riding a bike around the city. You know, just being able to be myself, you know, a ride a bike. Um, there's a lot of fun

things you do. You know, you got some history places here, but just driving around Philly is is good enough for you. You're gonna see almost anything you can think of, really, from something good to something bad. But it's definitely, you know, a great city to be in where the culture here is to win. A season ago, the Sixers still enjoyed a breakout year with fifty two wins and a second round playoff appearance, even without Folts as a regular member

of the rotation. Now, one of the team's tasks early on in the season will be to figure out how to use Foults the best in the preseason he started, and that's how Brett Brown plans to keep things with one caveat. He could come off the bench to begin

the second half. Part of my responsibility is to be able to put these guys in environments, you know, with different combinations and try to figure that out as quickly as I'm abel and I believe that that Markel is at his best with the ball, and so when you watch how I substitute and determine patterns. When you can bring him off the bench in the second half, you're able to get him like four or five more minutes as a point guard, and I believe it's something that

we will continue to look at. Regardless of how Faults is deployed, one thing is clear. The fortunes of the Sixers figure to be enhanced if he's contributing. The partnership he forges with young stars Joel and beating Ben Simmons

will also be pivotal. I think it's important, you know, the relationship that we have is not only key just for you know how the team's going to do, but more so, you know, just being comfortable coming in knowing that you have a teammate slash brother who's going to hold you accountable when you're not doing well or when you are doing well, or going to get on you when you where you're not going as hard as you should.

You know. So, I think the relationship that not only do us three have, but our whole core team, the whole team has is truly special. Up first for Faults and the Sixers promising core, the club that ousted them from the playoffs last year. Boston opening night against the Celtics at Ted Garden has been circled on the calendars of many Sixers players, not just Faults. The series this past spring was a learning lesson that definitely show us what we're capable of, you know, just doing what we did.

We finished the game on a win streak, and then going to the second round of the playoffs, you know, competing and building team chemistry and just seeing what we how a young group of guys and some vets, how we bonded together. It was pretty amazing. So coming back this year, you know, we're looking to spend on that and just come come in and you know, starting the way we finish, not taking any breakcause the way we finished last year is the way we want to start

this year. You know. For me, just listening to Falter's words or imagining him as he described it, riding around Center City on his bike, he just projects the vibes of a guy who's at peace, someone who at this point in his life is settled. We'll soon find out how it translates the floor. Oh man, I'm super excited. I Mean, I don't know if God's can tell or people can tell, but I definitely have a different swagger coming in the gym this year. You know, I'm definitely happier.

I don't want to make my teammates happy. I want to make everybody you know, joyful, and I'm just ready to compete. You know. I feel like I put in a lot of work this summer and it's it's paid off. You know, I've seen the results, and I'm still working even to this day, you know, to get better. But I'm confident and happy going into the season. In some ways, is that is still aligning to what happened last season? Do you think you could have had an outlooked like

that without hadn't gone through the last year. I think it would be different, you know, last year. I think that the stuff that happened to me last year only made me a better man and basketball player. You know.

You know, some people can look at it as, you know, as something bad, but I look at it as you know, a blessing, you know, a blessing for me to see that early in my first year in the NBA, you know, at a young age or nineteen years old, just to be able to go through that, it just makes me show that makes me more hungry to work hard, you know, It makes me not take anything for granted, and it just makes me appreciate it. Where I'm where I'm at. Every day I wake up, you know, it's a blessing

to be here. No matter what's going on in my life. I know that. You know, at the end of the day, I'm blessed and I'm an opportunity where not many have great perspective from a guy who very well, once it's all said and done, could be great himself. Coming up next on the podcast, I'll speak with my counterpart from

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seventy six is opening up on Tuesday night. Ted Garden, Boston, Massachusetts, the scene of the crime last May, where the Sixers were eliminated from the playoffs in a five game series in the second round versus their arch nemesis. No rivalry in the games and played more frequently than the Sixers and the CS, and it was always great to frequently touch base with the guy who covers the Boston Celtics

for Celtics dot Com. His name is Mark Demiko, and Mark's gonna give us a preview of what the Sixers may have in store on Tuesday night. Mark, what's going on, man? I've been great. It's nice to see you again after a long off season. I felt like we just saw each other. Though. It is very true. I can recall the steps that I took in Vegas running into you guys, and also like down Boylston Street in the springtime, where to revisit now that the Sixers are going back up

to Boston. But I don't know about you. I love the fact that this is not only the first game of the season, but the first game of the NBA season. It should be. I mean, you look at the way the last season played out, and you look at the way the offseason played out. Clearly, these are the two teams, the top dogs that everyone wants to see in the East.

Obviously Toronto is there as well, but that's kind of a little bit of an unknown that they've got a new coach, they've got a new star player in Kawhi. So these are the two known quantities in the Eastern Conference. You know the Celtics are going to be there. You know the Sixers are going to be there, and you know the one those team play, they're gonna hate each other.

Before we jump into looking ahead to this season, can you give us a refresher of what the populace in Boston and New England thought about last season for the Celtics and what they made of it once it was all said and done at the end of the Eastern Conference Finals. Yeah. No, I mean, I think the run that they made last season really set the bar for this season, if that makes sense. I mean, when you don't have Hayward, you don't have Kyrie Irving, you don't

have Daniel Tyson. Daniel Tyson is a guy who you know, in a series against the Sixers would have been really important. And same thing going up against the Cleveland Cavaliers in the Conference finals. But when you're missing those players and you still somehow reach Game seven of the Conference Finals and really like they should have won that game. You know, Terry Rosier gooes o for ten from three point range.

It's kind of like a fluke offensive performance, but they really had a shot to get to the finals, and then who knows what happens there, they steal a game or two against the Warriors, but you know the way that they handled themselves with such young players like Rogier, like Jaylen Brown, like Jason Tatum, who obviously had an outstanding series against you guys last season, when those guys set the bar so high for what they can do, and then they're not even necessarily the top dogs going

into this season, when you've got Irving and Hayward coming back. I mean, everyone is jacked up around here about what this team can accomplish. It's going to be really interesting to see if it can all come together. Let's start with Kyrie. Give us the latest on him, how he's looked and how he sounded. He has looked like Kyrie, you know, I mean ever since the first ball went up,

you know, two days after training camp started. I don't know if you guys know that, but the Celtics played their first preseason game two days or they had two days of practice before their first preseason game. And so you're you're expecting, especially someone who had an injury last season and couldn't get back to playing basketball until mid August, You're expecting, you know, him to have a little rust.

There was no rust. He came out looked just like Kyrie Irving, cashing in from downtown, driving to the rack with ease. The handles are always going to be there, So that's how he's looked. He's looked like Kyrie. Although he did miss the final two games of the preseason, I'm not too worried about that. There's nothing serious lingering there. How he sounded, though, is really what has stood out

last season. When he came to town. It sounded like he was, you know, trying to say all the right things. And I think he would admit that, you know that he was in a new situation. You know, it was kind of a whirlwind summer for him with you know, filming his movie Uncle Drew, and then getting traded and you know, right three weeks before training camp starts. So he wasn't I don't think he was himself necessarily last season.

And I do think he was doing a little bit of Uncle Drew last season, like he was acting a little bit, you know, trying to act happy. He's not acting anymore, at least from what I can see, and at least from what he's saying. He is happy. He is comfortable and That's why he was in a position where he wanted to actually come out and say at the recent open practice at Ted Garden Fold the crowd, Hey, if you guys are gonna have me back, I'm resigning

this soft season and this coming off season. And I don't think that's something that anyone around here or around the NBA expected him to announce before the season even started. So he's in a different place. He's in the same place physically and being able to do what he's always done, but he's in a different place mentally. There's no doubt

about that. And you just have to think that for a player to come out and say something like that, I mean, we know that pro sports can be so fluid and anything can happen the circumstances change, But just to come out and make a declaration like that, announce intentions, that just got to lift a whole cloud of questioning that could have followed him potentially over the course of the entire season. Right, Yeah, no doubt. I mean, because if you don't know what's happening with Kyrie Irving, then

you might not know what to do with Terry Rogier. Right, Terry Rogier is entering his final year of his rookie deal. So the Celtics obviously they just missed the opportunity to extend him. So that's in the rear view and now that they would have had to figure out, Okay, you know, Kyrie's going into the offseason as an unrestricted free agent, he might go somewhere. Terry Rogier is a restricted free agent. Do we plot all the money in his pocket and

assume that Kyrie's going somewhere else? Or do we reserve that money for Kyrie and then try to figure out what we can do with Terry Rogier and see if we can have maybe the best backup point guard in the entire NBA for the long term here. So yeah,

it just clarifies things for the organization. It takes a huge cloud out from over their head for the entire season, and you know, for the team, I think it helps them, like they don't have to deal with those questions every single day because as you know, you know, Kyrie wouldn't be the only person being asked that question throughout the season.

Al Horford would be hit with that question, you know, Gordon Hayward would be hit with that question, and most importantly, Brad Stevens would be hit with that question because we meet with him about thirteen times every four days. Yeah, it's too many media availabilities with the coaches. Yeah, and I completely agree with you on that a and just like, yeah,

it's nice to listen. It's a question that the type of question that people have to ask, But it's nice to know that that's something regardless of what team you're following. And I like the hope that I say the same thing if there were a similar situation with the Sixers. You know, it's just like that stuff will play itself out and you can just kind of focus on the season, which is really I think, at the end of day

what people care about. Yeah, no doubt. I mean I think people underestimate how something like that can affect a team in a locker room, and people underestimate how important the locker room is to the success of a team. No doubt it's important. So Gordon Hayward, how about him? How is he feeling physically as he continues to get back in the gear of things. Yeah, well, you know, we talked about Kyrie. Kyrie looks like Kyrie. Gordon does not look like Gordon right now, And at least the

last time we saw him play. He also missed the final two preseason games. He had a little bit of back pain, so they wanted to take a cautious route with that and you know, keep him out of the final two games. But the first two games that he played in, you know, he did look like he he was just off. You know, his timing wasn't there. He's his shot wasn't there. He's trying to get it all back. But the good thing is that he's coming back to

a team. You know, if he was out in Utah still and he was coming back from this injury, you know, he would still be you know, maybe one a you know, behind Donovan Mitchell. But here there's plenty of other guys who can carry the load, so there's not as much pressure on him to return to you know, that all star form that he was in that final season in Utah, so he can kind of take his time in getting

that rhythm back. And but yesterday Brad Stevens actually said that the three players who have made the most significant strides during this kind of nine day lead up of practice that the Celtics had before tomorrow Night's opening game are Gordon Hayward number one, Kyrie Irving number two, and Daniel Tyson number three, all three guys who were coming back from injuries. Those three guys are really starting to

kind of get a little bit of a rhythm. We haven't been able to get in and watch those guys practice and scrimmage, but you know, all reports sound like those guys are, you know, in particular, Gordon Hayward are starting to, you know, look a little bit more like themselves than they maybe did during those preseason games. Amazing just how good the team was for Boston last season.

Adding two talents like that back, you're expecting that it's gonna be Kyrie Tatum, Jalen Brown, Gordon Hayward, Al Horford as the starting five. That's what I would expect. That's what we saw for the first two preseason games when everyone was healthy. But you know, Brad Stevens is also the kind of guy who will alter a lineup based upon who he's playing, And that's really one of the interesting storylines that we're gonna have to follow here in

Boston this season. Is like, Okay, if he's gonna throw, let's say tomorrow night. If he wants to throw Aaron Baines into the starting lineup because he's a great defender. He played very well against Joel Embiid last year in the postseason. Who's going to the bench, Like, who do you take out? Is it Jaylen Brown? Is it Jason Tatum, who's clearly on the path to superstart him? Like who do you take out? A lot? Or is it Gordon Hewart?

You know if he's not quite looking like himself. So you know that's going to be really interesting to see throughout the season. And Brett Stevens has never been shy about shaking up the starting lineup based upon matchups, and you know Joel Embiid is one of those matchups tomorrow night. It'd be really interesting to see if if Baines is out there, But I do not expect that. I do expect him to go with the small lineup to start a high class problem. To have last thing I'll leave

you with before we wrap this up. Does this game sound like it matters much to the Celtics players, Because for the seventy six ers, really the drumbeat sin the middle of May last year has been more to do. Didn't like the way things finished against Boston and certainly this matchup, given the opponent has been circled for a while, and even that much more so once the schedule came out and the players saw that it was the first

game of the season. So does it sound like, based on what guys are saying in Boston, this game is being viewed as something extra to them? You know, I don't know if it means extra to them, because a lot of the questions that they've been facing are about themselves. You know, they did not look good during the preseason, you know, plane, plane and simple. They didn't look like the same team that they were last season when they

led the league defensively, you know, in defensive efficiency. They didn't look the same offensively, they kind of looked discombobulated and not really knowing, you know, not wanting to step on each other's toes. So that's really been the storyline for the Celtics, and that's what they've been asked about every day, is like, are you guys gonna be able

to figure this out? You know, it feels a lot like when Lebron and Chris Bosh went down to Miami and that first season and that team really kind of struggled to find itself over the first three four weeks of the season, and that was the storyline from them, more more so than you know, who they were playing, or you know, if they were playing the Spurs or you know, any of the top teams. That's kind of what it feels like here in Boston, that the concentration is more so on them right now, on the on

the team, more so than who they're playing. Now, let's be real like tomorrow night, when the lights go on and you get a little pyro going during pregame and you've got the Sixers on the other sideline who are clearly you know they're one of the top dogs in the East as well. Those guys are gonna be jacked up. They're gonna want to grab the win, and it should be should be a fun environment. Before you let me go, though,

I gotta ask you what's up with Markuel Foltz. Looks like he's got looking I thought, all things considered, really good preseason, promising, encouraging. Um there was one game, the second game they played, he really let the pull up jump or fly a bit. But kind of like what you were saying about Kyrie Irving, more than what you're seeing on the court. Seems to be in a very

good headspace. But yeah, it sounds like he's going to start the game and then don't be surprised if they bring him off the bench to begin the second half and JJ Reddick starts in two guard. Let me actually go on that. Brad Stevens has said the exact same thing, that he might be willing to change his lineups at halftime on a nightly basis, depending on how the first half goes. So hey, maybe Reddick's in to start the

second half and maybe Aaron Bains is out there. Who knows. Listen, if Brett Brown and Brad Stevens are doing it, I feel like it's got to be a worthwhile endeavor. Two guys that are way smarter than us, right, no doubt. Great insight, Mark Demiko, Celtics Digital, Thanks so much man, all right, Yeah, good to get that insight on what's happening in Celtics Land from Mark. Celtics went one and three in the preseason seventy six, of course, very auspicious.

Three and one came up just a few points shy of an undefeated preseason with their loss in the finale to the Dallas Mavericks in China, and right now we're just the point where we're pretty much ready to roll game number one of the season Tuesday night, eight o'clock. You can watch the game on TNT. You can listen to Tom McGinnis beginning year number twenty four behind the mic on ninety seventy five to the Fanatic, another Sixer

radio network affiliates. And yeah, Tuesday Night's gonna be fun and it's exciting, but can't wait for Thursday when the Sixers open things at home at eight o'clock versus these Chicago Bulls. Thank you, as always for listening. Thanks to Mark hell Foltz and Mark Demiko for taking the time. We'll talk to you later this week on the broadcast. See you