Fanatic About the Playoffs | Tyrone Johnson Recaps Rd. 1, Previews Rd. 2

playoff game. This is the Fanatic About the Playoffs podcast and on this episode we recap the finale it ended up being of Round one, Game five, and look ahead to the seventy Sixers Eastern Conference Semi Finals matchup yes with the Atlanta Hawks. The series starting on Sunday at

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My name is Brian Seltzer. We've got Lauren Rosen, team Reporter Extraordinary for the seventy Sixers with us and Mike misson Nellie Show and select outstanding weekend programming on the fanatic also Sixers Outsiders on NBC Sports Philadelphia is everywhere this time of year. It is Tyrone Johnson, ty what's up man? How are you? How are you guys doing?

Thanks for having me, of course, of course, can we go through the range of emotions and thoughts we had on Wednesday from one o'clock Eastern on through the end of the night, one o'clock, of course, being the time that the big Man news dropped, and then by the end of the night the Sixers moving on with a very convincing showing without Joel against Washington. Yeah, for me, it was tough. Well, first I was hoping that it would just be okay, They'd say, hey, it's a day

to day just because of soreness. I was hoping there was no injury at all. That's what I was hoping for, and obviously that wasn't the case, so that was tough. Then they said day to day. I said, okay, well, he's not ruled out yet, so now let's try to focus on the game. Once he's not out, let's focus on the game. Let's put that to the side temporarily. Then before the game he's on the court, and that's impossible to ignore, like people are paying attention to it.

You can't just act like that didn't happen. So now it's like, oh, wait that Mightne could play soon. Oh maybe he'll pull a Willis Reed and try to play tonight. There were people saying that then the game starts, that they can't make shots early, and it's like, oh no, could this possibly be a game six? And then the second half happens. They explode, shots start falling, and then they get Washington up out of there. So it was definitely a roller coaster for me, for sure. I was

right alongside you front row of the roller coaster. A really interesting day, but honestly not that abnormal when you think about the year that people have gone through, the years that Sixers fans have gone through. Awesome to see it end the way that it did. A lot of angst on Wednesday, and really good to see the guys Galvanizes come together get the job done. I agree with you. I think that second half just like everything started to click.

I think Danny Green's play at the end of the second quarter is something that we are not talking about enough. Selton I just did a Twitter space tyrone and it was a lot of fun. We did not mention Danny Green a single time, and so now I feel like I have to that. Well, maybe we did, I don't know. Anyway, Danny Green at the end of the second quarter was so important, and I just can only imagine what he was saying to the guys in the locker room at halftime for them to come out the way that they did.

I think that was a pivot point, and you don't often see pivot points right before halftime. But I was really pleased to see Danny Green. I mean, the experience that he brings on and off the floor I think was on full display, whether or not we actually saw it last night. Yeah, he's an extremely important player in my opinion. I think he's an extremely important player, has been all year. Fans were frustrated with them at Tim's in the regular season, but you just see having had experience,

like you said, just makes a huge difference. And there might have been guys who are a little bit nervous or worried about this close out, Oh what are we gonna do? Seem like he wasn't worried about a single thing. And that's despite effect in the first half. Wasn't making shots. He didn't matter him one bit in a game the seventy Sixers were without there MVP candidate who rose to

the occasion in a closeout spot X factor. It's a cliche narrative to say, well, when you lose the best player on your roster, one of the best players on the planet, an MVP candidate, that everyone's gonna put all their hands in. It's all hands on deck and band together and give it your best. But that really was the case for the Sixers in the win in Game five. There were some who shine brighter than others, but really, when you dissected the game, and Lauren, I think Danny

Green is a great case in point. There were various juncts to the game where different guys stepped up, left their fingerprint on it and helped the seventy Sixers take care of business. On Wednesday, Seth Curry. He started the season strong. He went through the situation after testing positive for COVID. We all know why he was brought in and he was fantastic. In Game five. He sought out how will Nato exploited that matchup put up a thirty spot which was great to see and it was certainly timely.

That was not a wasted thirty point by Seth Curry, No, not at all. It was his best game as a sixer at the absolutely best moment. And I think that was something about we probably didn't know about him coming in because last year, if you paid attention to him in Dallas at all, he didn't have the ball a lot. So he was pretty much just asked to be a stand up shooter and that straight up shooter and that's it.

He could put it on the floor a lot more than we probably realized, and we saw flashes of it throughout the season, but between the health and the dribs and drabs, with the different lineups and the different responsibilities,

it never fully came together. I think you saw like the fully formed Seth Curry game last night, and now I'm actually intrigued about what it could be going forward, because now that's one more thing on film that Atlanta or any possible future opponent has to pay attention to. You know, if we close out on this guy too hard, this guy could put it on the floor and make us pay, and not just scoring, he also was able

to distribute. That was a really really good game. Now I think That's very encouraging for that are worried about Joel Embie to have that anxiety that a player can not only just score, which we kind of knew he could do that, but can do it in so many different ways. That was big. It's a great point he is. I think Lauren a well rounded player. I know that.

At the beginning of the season. I think some of the chatter it seemed like from some of the fans was like, Okay, we got someone like Seth Curry and maybe he can replicate the type of role that JJ Reddick had when JJ was here. I'm JJ fantastic, elite at what he does, but there's more to Seth. He's got a well rounded offensive game that can hurt you in a couple different ways for sure, and it's relied upon more when he's no longer the fourth or fifth

option on this team. Seth Curry is statistically speaking, one of the greatest shooters to ever play this game, but right now he's a fourth option at best. When you come into a team with Joel Embi, Tobias Harris, Ben Simmons and you're playing alongside them, really really cool to see him be able to activate those sort of all time good skills that he has that don't get called upon that often when everybody's available, and then see him rise to the occasion when those skills are needed. It

was a pleasure to watch him last night. Game four was wonky, obviously because the Sixers were dealing with the Joel Embiid situation and listen to find a basketball player and I see a potential MVP, go down, go back in the locker room. There's just human nature things that for me speaking only, it would be impossible to avoid, so hard to really know what stock to place in game four. I thought Tobias Harris, who understandably saw more coverage and more tension once Joe went out in Game four.

Tobias came back in Game five really versatile effort. I thought that he had a really really strong series from the start in game one to how we wrapped things up and help the Sixers put a bow on it in game five. Interesting that you talk about Tobias having a well rounded series, because that's what he's wanted to do. And he came to the Sixers just over two years ago in twenty nineteen, and he expressed that his goals were to become a reliable scorer for this team and

to become a closer. That became a bigger goal for him as time went along, and I asked him about that after the game, have you accomplished those goals? And in a very Tobias Harris fashion, he said, well, I think I'm getting closer. He said, he likes the progress he's making towards accomplishing those goals. But if I had to assess it, I think he's become both a reliable scorer and a closer. And should Joel Ebeat not be available for any more games, that's going to be continued

to be relied upon. But when Joel comes back, it will also be relied upon. And Tobias Harris is that guy now, even if he's not willing to say it, I am he is that guy. And I'm really impressed with the way that he came here. He set the goals, he signed a new contract, and then he continued to get better. You don't always see that, and so I really admire the work ethic and the will that he's

put into his time as a Sixer, for sure. And one thing I noticed them when he first arrived, teams would hid remember one particular time where they put Kemba Walker on him in a playoff series and he wasn't able to make Kemball Walker pay. Now, if you put a smaller guy on him, he makes them pay consistently. He did it throughout this series. Game four, like you said,

got a little wonky. There was a lot of help defense, Gafford and other guys laying back for him, so it wasn't really any single coverage once in beat was out of the game, but pretty much throughout the whole series he was able to exploit whatever matchups came against him, and I don't think he was very good at that. I may not trying to rip him when he first arrived.

He's a totally different player in that way now, and I think going forward against the Halts, there's no place for anybody to hide because they're gonna have to put a real defender on him, and if they can, if they think they can stick Trey Young on him, or he's gonna score fifty, like that's not going to happen anymore. While the previous twenty nineteen version, maybe he would have settled for shots and allowed the team to get away

with putting a little guy on him. They're gonna have to put Hunter, like a real defender on him or there, or he's gonna score forty fifty points. We saw thirty seven. I think that thirty seven could have been more, especially to Wake games two and three win. He could have scored forty fifty in some of those games. I think he'll still do that if they don't guard him correctly. And that's very different than when he first arrived. You're gonna talk around a lot of people. The buzzword with

Tobias this year has been decisive, more decisive. That's something that Doc has talked about one and to be more decisive and how that's helped unlock his game. I also think he's been more physical. To build on your point, like he's not afraid to take the smaller guards down to the block and impose his physical will on them down there, just as ready as he is to pull up for a jumper at the elbow or something like that.

I love it. Yeah. The one other thing is I like that he would been such a willing shooter from three At times. I thought there was times where like, why aren't you taking that shot? Let it fly? Who cares if you miss because now if they come out on you, he can just do so many things. He can score all three levels. So it's like, don't not take those three because you can score from out there, you can score from the midras, you can score at the basket. I think he's showing all three levels and

that has to be tough. And that's versus Randall. If anybody watched it of that Nick series, he became a very one dimensional pound of ball. And I don't know what I'm gonna do type score. You mentioned decisive. He's been extremely decisive at all three levels. He's a tough cover now, decisiveness, aggression, and we haven't even talked about defense.

That might be the place that he's I don't want to say that where he's improved the most because of how much he's improved offensively, but it's meaningful improvement on the defensive end. Tobias Harris is not a liability on defense.

He's not someone you have to hide on defense. He's someone that takes pride in his matchups and that's something Again, he expressed that he wanted to become a better defender, that he wanted to be relied upon on the defensive end, and now he's doing it game after game after game, and adding defense to your game is a difficult thing to do. So the fact that he's really put in the work his teammates set it back in training camp. But Tobias is often out there running with cones making

sure he can figure out defensive opportunities in the extra time. Right, and scorers like to put in work scoring. Tobias Harris clearly putting in work scoring, putting in work defending, and now we're seeing the rewards of his hard work. I'll be honest. For me, there was a lot of the I wonder factor about Tobias coming to this year. I wonder how he's going to respond to how things went in the bubble. He to me for me, took care of that within like the first month and half of

the season. I wonder how much of the regular season good we saw would translate into the playoffs. Took care that this round. I think that Tobias has earned the benefit of the doubt. I think he has proven that he can a score and volumes scoring a lot of different ways. Like we talked about, better defender, and he can be that option in crunch time if the Sixers need someone, especially now we don't know how long Joe's

gonna be out for. There were so many good performances in this series, and the Sixers frankly were just better than the Wizards and Edition and everything else. But they had to go play like they were better and show it, and you just saw it, and he just was just better than everybody on that team. As great as Bill was, he gives you nothing on the defensive end, for example, like just absolutely nothing. He gives you something on both things. He was fantastic. We are taping this Tyrone before your

Thursday edition of Mike's Show nineteen ten eleven. Two block shots for Benjamin. What type of feedback do you think Benjamin will get over the next forty eight seventy two hours. It's probably gonna be unfair whatever it is likely. I hate to say, it's probably going to be unfair because he Oh, the foul shots are a huge thing. The hacka been. Oh, he's killing them. Then they tried in the first half, which was just cowardly, by the way,

cowardly effort by Scott Brooks. I would respect what first half come on anyway, he makes two ons and then all of a sudden, your genius strategy falls apart. But the guy, it was fantastic. We know the one thing that he doesn't do, and people are always going to harp on that. I can't harp on that every single day. I'll go crazy thinking about one particular thing every single day year round. But if you could just get past that plea, he was incredible. He was incredible lest Furst

of all one of the biggest to quote. The only flaw in his game defensively, people to say at times was rim protection. He was excellent at the rim from the second half of the third quarter through the end of the game. I think he just had to get comfortable because he hasn't had to do it that much because usually it's the big man and Dwhite Howard back there. He was excellent at the rim. He's excellent roaming, he was excellent doing he was aggressive. Was Another big moment

was that he recognized as a smaller guy. And there's been at times where he would give the ball up, not last night, puts his shoulder into his chest, goes right to the basket. It's a smaller guy. He sees a bigger guy. He's quicker. He goes right around him. He was doing everything that we've been asking, so we should at least have a twenty four to four, eight to seventy two hours more. Tore him on ripping the guy.

I mean, wait until he plays another basketball game, because he was fantastic into one last night, and I'm not going to be worried about what happened before. He was great last night. Give the guy a little bit of credit. I'm not saying forever if he has a bad game any no one's above scrutiny, But goodness gracious, he was great last night on both ends. Let's just give the guy a clap, and let's wait for Atlanta and then decide if we're gonna be mad again. I don't have

a lot to add Tyrone. I think though, that Sixers fans, Philadelphia fans are very very passionate, and if you're gonna pick him apart for what he did in game four, what I'm asking is you bring that same energy to celebrate him in game five. Just match your energy. If you're gonna be mad, please now celebrate him. Five for eight from the line. Dwight Howard also eight for ten from the line, talk about sort of fixing what people

are talking about. But Ben is also paying attention. And Ben posted on Instagram last night and his quote was, they love me, they love me, they love me, they let me not. And I loved that from Ben because he's listening, he hears you, and he's proving you wrong, and he's not afraid to gloat afterwards. And that's exactly the type of energy you want from your athletes. He's engaged with this community. He wants to do right by this community, and now it's time for the community to

do right by him. And I don't know what's going to happen in game one of Round two, but I think it would be really nice if everybody could just celebrate Ben for what he was able to do last night. He was wonderful. He's been great all series, great all playoffs. And another thing that post does is there are fans sometimes to feel like they can't wrap their arms around him because his personality is just playing different than Joel Eb's personality. He was just born different. Every all three

personalities are all different too. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but sometimes fans feel like they can't get to know him. Well, that's showing some personality right there. Now, Hey, hey you gotta if you gotta take those lumps you've got. People were trick to kill a guy because he missed a couple of foul shots in a game they barely lost. So yeah, somebody that same manage you should have to accept somebody say managey. But I'd like the human fact

whenever a player shows who they are. I think that's a good thing. And it's just I think that there are just times where we might go too far. Yes we're passionate, but let's not partenend like the guys not excellent at basketball. We know what he does and doesn't do, but no, no, we know what he doesn't do, but we don't ever spend enough time talking about what he

does do. I should say there are a couple instances that stand out to me the most about when this happened that Ben was able to tune out noise and respond. One was in the middle of March or earlier, when there was a lot of talk swirling, tune that out, went about his business and it came back after game four he said, I'll be all right, came out and did his thing. So so I agree, I think that

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know Joel and Bie got hurt in Game four. I know the Sixers lost Game four in the series came back, but I was okay going to bed that night because I saw number zero nearly helped the seventy Sixers steal the game and end the series. And four and then Tyrese Maxie comes back in game five and electrifies the crowd. They said it it was amazing. The intensity was great,

The fans were amazing. You know, it was cool to see the chess mask, like I talked about the other day of you know the coaches, different coaches pass and it's very fun. You gotta stay locked in at all times, and you gotta stay focused in. You know, we can't wait from a round two great offensively love it. His tenacity on the defensive end and willingness to get after it,

I love just as much. I think for me, guys, hopefully we see more of Tyrese Maxie hopefully continues to earn his minutes but if the best we see was what he did in these last two games in the first round, for me, that fills me with a lot of hope of what's to come. Oh oh absolutely. And you know, I remember, I remember during draft night as the as it comes down, because he was not supposed

to be there at twenty one. I remember the Miami Heat had the twentieth overall pick, and I have to be honest, I was one hundred percent sure they were gonna take him, and I was gonna be upset, and I was like, he's gonna help them, and now what's gonna happen, and blah blah blah. And then instead day don't take him, and then the Sixers get him, and he starts off the regular season really well. Then he

goes into a rookie low. I think playing so many games with such a short amount of time was probably tough on him physically in addition to mentally. He's so positive, but he had to get tired along the way. Now it seems like he's got that second wind. It looks

like he's not a rookie anymore. Westbrook had absolutely no hope of staying in front of him, So then they switched to it's Smith and if Smith had no hope of stayed in from him, and then they switched to Nettle and Netto had no hope of stayed in front of him. I think they're gonna see him more in the second round, and I honestly don't think the Hawks have anybody who can stay in front of him either. Now. Is he gonna be the single hand reason why they

win a series? Probably not yet, But I really feel I think that his time actually is now. I think you are going to see more from him. But it was so good, and there was a stretch there where him taking it to the basket and contributed. He had like nine shots up in nine minutes. He needed to go get his off the bitch at one point, and I love to see it because he wasn't afraid at the moment. Those are the things you were about with

a rookie. He wasn't afraid at the moment. He was aggressive, he was effective, and he didn't try to do too much, no crazy turnovers. Like I have nothing nuggets him to say about the kid, and I honestly think he's going to help him more this season. I think that speaks to the environment also that he's in right now too. There might be some rookies to come in who had high hopes of going in the lottery, and if they don't, they get disappointed and they're like, I'm on a playoff

team or contending team and I might not get my minutes. Well, he took that situation and he was ready for the final couple of weeks of the regular season. Scott the gears turning of Doc and the coaching staff clearly, and he made the most of it when the minute presented themselves. And here he is in a key spot. It seems like the veterans, I know, line that you're in those

zooms and you're talking to everyone in the team. The veterans, I feel like they surrounded him in a good place to just focus on the task at hand, talked him up throughout the year, and kept him perhaps mentally ready as much as anything else. Yeah. Earlier in the series, Tyree said that when he was little, his dad told him that proper performance prevents wait, proper preparation prevents poor performance. I knew I was going to get it wrong at

some point. I got that tongue twister right too many times. And now I'm paying for it. Tyrese has been preparing behind the scenes all season long, and he didn't even get the regular preparation that a rookie would get, especially coming into a really good team. He didn't get Summer League, he didn't get a traditional training camp. He didn't get to come to Philadelphia and work with a player development coach and acclimate to the city and then meet his

teammates one by one as rookies usually do. We talked about it with Seth Curry. It's tough to be on a team with Joel Embid, Ben Simmins, Tobias Harris playing ahead abuse. Tyrese is someone that's way farther down on the depth chart than Seth Korea is and has been all season long, and even so he's found a way to make an impact over and over again. He's come into the rotation, out of the rotation, back into the rotation better than he was before he fell out of it.

And that's also worth celebrating, because it's really hard to improve when you're not getting those minutes. Selton I talk about this a lot tyrone, but when you're a rookie and you come into a really good team, it's difficult to get minutes. You don't get to take risks. We saw it with Matisse Thyble last year. We've seen it with Tyrese this year. Mistakes you have to pay for them if you're a rookie on a bad team. Trey

Young benefited from this early in his career. You get to go out there and make mistakes and figure it out. Tyrese was not given that privilege, and he's still figured it out. And I think that's really worth celebrating. And now we're getting to do it, and the city is rallying behind him. I'm not surprised after watching him all season to see how well he's performing in this playoffs, but I think it's really exciting, and again we're celebrating.

You mentioned, Lauren, the Atlanta Hawks, the adjustment. You see they come one o'clock Sunday afternoon. We know that at the center round two Underway. I gotta be honest, I was. I felt for the great Lloyd Pierce. I thought he was a good hire at that point in time for Atlanta didn't work out. And today McMillan's credit man the Hawks. They were the third best team in the NBA since his hiring Tyrone. What do you think are well, we

certainly know one of them. But as you take the holistic look at the Atlanta Hawks, what are some of the big challenges they present in your mind? The number one thing for me that comes right to mind is running guys off that three point line. I understand that you may or may not have Joellambat. I don't want to speculate on what his status might be, but one thing we do know is those guys want to fire threes, and they're much more effective out there than Washington is overall.

I think you have to go into the steers with the approach if we'll have to accept guys making some twos, some tough twos at times, some scrambles, but run guys off the three point line. And I think if you do that now you can create problems for them on the other end, because while their defensive profile has improved great under McMillan, I don't see personnel that's built to slow this team down. They'll have a good scheme, a better scheme, much better scheme than Washington had, and better

personnel overall than Washington has. But I think that if you can run them off the three point line and make them uncomfortable. You then can then score on them and get more easy baskets. On the other end, if they're comfortable and they're able to take easy three pointers, now it becomes a more uphill battle. Then Nicks ran into that a couple of times in that series, where they might they're playing tough defense, they're playing scrapping. Those guys make shots and then oh no, they have no

way of coming back. Obviously the Sixers are better equipped to do that. But running those guys and not letting any of them, including the one who takes the fifty footers, keep those guys from being comfortable at the three point line, to me, is the first thing that comes to mind in that series. If they do that, it's much easier than if they can't do that. Looking at their personnel, right, they have a handful of three point shooters that are

above thirty seven and a half percent. Bogdanovitch obviously jumps out. Lewis shot the ball great since he's gotten there. Tony Snell, we saw a couple of times when he played the Sixers this year go off. But the thing about Trey is he's not afraid to launch from anywhere, So I don't really care what his percentages. You know, he can change the game if he gets hot, and you just you can't let him get hot. And the other thing

the one thing, and I'm with you, Tyrone. I take, especially at this stage, a very zen approach when it comes to guys who are in or out, like it's either gonna happen or it's not. It's outside of my control. I can't get my energy wrapped up in it. I think the presence of Capella obviously changes whether or not Joe is in there or not. If Joe's in there, Cappella not particularly concerned. I think that Joe's certainly acquitted

himself pretty well against him in the past. But if Joe's not there, then I think that's that presents a decision for Doc to make as far as how he's gonna work that five spot and that sort of thing. Yeah, because then it changes to a dribble penetration situation where a lot of Capella's points they don't throw to him into post and he goes to work. That's not what

he does guards penetrate. It is a skill to find the right spot and play with energy and all those kind of things would indeed there, and b could really shut a lot of that down if he doesn't, if indeed is not there, then it is tougher than to stop some of that stuff that they do if they are able to run guys off the three point line. That druple penetration leads to a lot of his baskets,

and he's very effective there. He's a guy that can literally shoot ten for ten in the game because all the shots are within two feet, none of them are difficult, and then he'll grab ten fifteen rebounds to go with it without calling a single play for him. So yeah, in that way, you're absolutely right, Lauren. Anyone who you have your eye on sixer side that you felt we saw some flashes of things in the first round that you could see building on that in the second round, Yes,

you'll be unsurprised to hear that. My answer is yes. I want to talk about fir Con Korkmas for a second. He didn't figure super heavily into the first couple of games. And this is a guy who went hot so dangerous you can always have to account for him on the floor or a defense to see him come into Game four and along with Tyrese Maxie keep the team in a very difficult situation. The two of them or what

was really driving that fourth quarter. Furkon had all seven of his points in the fourth quarter in Game four and then in Game five to come in and score ten points, four for eight from the field, two for five from three and two for five from three. That's fine if you're Furkon, because they have to guard him on all five and I think that a lot of the times more than two of them fall when you're

a firkn Cork must so look to me. I don't know how heavily he figures into the upcoming series, but he's someone that can be relied upon, like Tyrese Maxie, will come in and rise to the occasion. I loved seeing him close this series the way that he did. Doc Rivers often says that when Furkon's shots are falling, when Furkon is playing well, it usually means that the rest of the team is playing well too. So if you're using Furkon is sort of a litmus test, especially

if you're going to be shorthanded. To see him finish this series successfully again, not sure how heavily he's going to play in not sure how many minutes he's going to get, but when he gets them, he's going to capitalize on them. And I've really enjoyed seeing him succeed in this situation. Selts, I know you're also a big for Concork Mods guy. He's just a good human as well, and so you got a root for those good humans.

I think he at least he gave some good energy, especially in game four he and Tyres Maxie almost help the Sixers steal it. I think, yeah, I think it would. It would certainly help if fir can build off what we saw the last two games, because as Doc said, he feels like the Sixers could need him at some point.

Why don't we rap with this? Obviously time and I think that when you have someone like Trey Young on the opposite side, if you're you're following the Sixers, your first thought is, well, we've got Ben Simmons and you can just go after that and try and shut Trey down. I don't know how do you think Doc might approached

that matchup. It's obviously gonna be one of the key matchups of the series because there are some guys, whether it's DeAndre Hunter or John Collins, who who have some size and athleticism, who could get inside a little bit. And I'll be curious to see how much time Ben spends on Trey and maybe most of all, what stage of the game they put him on Trey. Yeah, that's

gonna be interesting. And also to kind of go hand in hand with the courtmask thing is stible because if it's almost like if you combine them, you would get the greatest player to ever live, because you'd have somebody who can really really make shots and somebody who can really really defend. If if I'm not hoping, if Joel and Beat is out he went with Thible as a

starter in Gay five, does he stick with that? And then it's very simple Thible, you're guarding Young pretty much every possession, and if you get in foul trouble, then we can go, we can try something different coming off

the bench. That's the part the player who I think would be the biggest wildcard who may end up spending a lot of important minutes on him because he's long enough, he can get the trail block, he's quick enough, and he's he does still doesn't get all the calls that he probably should as an elite defender, but he gets a lot more than he didn't as a rookie, so he might be able to play just physical enough to make the catches for him a little bit easier, to

fight over that screens and stay with it and just make those shots from a guy who, like you said, who can blow the game apart, just make it a little bit tougher for him. So that's one thing I'm

really looking for. If Joel and beat he played alf duel Abat is there, like we all hope, now, he could come in and he can really play loose with his foules and play really overplay him at times, and I think making him uncomfortable, something that Knicks did for exactly zero seconds of this series, could be just huge. And he's probably the best player equipped in the whole league perhaps to do that and not have the offensive

responsibilities that Ben Simmons obviously has. Yeah, it's a really really good point, and I think that Matise spending as much time as he's had to on Bradley Beale over the last few days is going to prove really formative. He said after the game last night that guarding Beale taught him a lot it was a crash course in guarding. He called Bradley Beale one of the greatest scorers in the world. I agree. So having that experience and now going to one of the other Trey Young is also

one of the greatest scorers in this game. But younger, a little less experienced, a little less likely to get into Matis's head the way that Bradley Beale was because Bradley Beale, Matise said, was able to start anticipating him, and now they're just anticipating each other and it becomes this just weird back and forth. And Matisse got some of his, but Bradley Beale got a lot his. I don't think that Trey Young could read defenders the way

that Bradley Beale can. So Matisse had some good warm up reps in this first set, his hands might be even more full. Like you said, if there's no Joel, does he just come in and your job is to just run with Trey best of luck, please slow him down. I agree with you. If anyone is going to be forced to go run in there, use your motor use your athleticism, and use your skills. It's a good series to have. Matisse's Bible on your side. I'm right. I think maybe I could use Thursday off and after that

we can start game one of the series Friday. I'm just intrigued, excited, curious. I want to see how it starts. The Yeah, now we gotta wait a while. Yeah Nowaday, now we gotta wait. At least it's one o'clock bin zone and when some of your bigger players might need a little bit of rest. And it's sure, sure, there is a certain big man they say you're going to use rest and rehab. Perhaps the extra couple of days of rest of rehab could work out well for the sixes.

One might say, that's a great theory that I would I would be willing to subscribe to. All Right, you see Tyrone. You hear Tyrone just about everywhere this time of year during six or season. Thank you man so much. Really appreciate it. No, I'm thrilled, thanks so much for

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