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Training Day (2001)

Aug 12, 20241 hr 20 minEp. 231
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PROTOPENDENCE continues with TRAINING DAY. Since we recently recorded the previous episode, instead of recent movies we talked about our top 3 favorite first watches of 2024 and much more. Don't forget we're also screening a movie with the Philadelphia Film Society! Buy tickets NOW! In the uncut episode just available to Patrons we talked about the lack of TRAINING DAY posters, and how excited we are to play the new season of Apex Legends lol sry.

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(00:00:00) Introductions

(00:01:37) Fave first watches of 2024

(00:24:30) Training Day

(01:14:03) Next week's pick

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Hey, it's Earl Palslim and this is 70mm podcast for movie fans just like you. Disclaimer at the top of the show, we're not experts, but we do love watching movies. With me, each and every episode is my close friend and artist, Danny Hoss. Hello. And our close friend and movie insider, Prodelexus. Finally, it's Denzel's turn on the pop. Finally.

Eternually 300 episodes. Every movie that we cover is connected to a theme for that month and this time it's Proto Pendence. Our spiritual advisor gave Danny and I categories and movies to choose from. And we did. And this episode is my first Hic Training Day from 2001. And you can use the chapters in your podcast, App2Skip, right to that discussion. Andy Stone in the VHS Village Community Live. Danny's disgust.

Andy Stone from our VHS Village Community Lifter review about this movie. Tag 70mm mod. Quote, the four sunrise for dudes with Scarface posters on their wall. I don't like it, but it's pretty good. That's good. That's really good. You have to give them respect. You don't have to like it, but you can respect it. We're recording this on a Tuesday. So we're like 24 hours from having recorded our last episode.

So we haven't watched anything. I mean, I've watched some things, but these two haven't watched anything. I don't know what they're doing over there. Who knows? They're watching the Caped Crusader on Amazon Prime and giving up after four episodes for all we know. So we thought it might be fun to talk about our fav first watches of 2024 for the opening segment of the show. Opening ceremonies. The Simone Biles on the Lunger or whatever the Pommel horse. Oh my god, the last supper. Get them. Sorry.

So our fav first watches these could be new movies out 2024. New to us. 2024. It doesn't matter. So we'll have three picks each doesn't necessarily have to be the top three could be three of your faves for the year. You know, this shows all about spread and love. You know, maybe given some movie recos out there for people that haven't seen him. So why not start with the brains behind Proto pendants himself Benjamin Proto Franklin.

What's what's one movie that you have you know at the top the apex if you will of your fav first watches of the year. I love that. It's keeping a thematic for the whole night. Yeah, this is this is hard folks this ain't easy because I just what I did is I went through my diary and looked at my five and four star reviews. And I just started clicking and adding and I've got seven on in this this private list currently.

I'm not it's a hard it's a hard thing to choose. I've seen a bunch of good movies. But if I'm recommending for folks. All right, this you know this first one's easy. I think I watched back in what what was the day for this back in February. Tampa, oh, I saw this when I saw this on my on my reviews. I was like, Oh my god, this movie. Let's change my life. It's about it's a it's a Japanese noodle western. Okay, really what more do you need to know?

It's about food. It's about love. It's about life. It's about helping your fellow man finding love finding food that you love. I gave it five stars. It was a delightful time. It's it's it's streaming on max. There's no excuse for anyone listening. The movie mixtape podcast just covered that from the tape deck network. Enterprise. Tampa, oh, I added that to my watch list after you raved. But then I cleared out my watch list. I don't know if it's still there. It's right.

Bankruptcy declared watch list bankruptcy. And I kept it quiet. But for right now, it's in a good good place. What a while. Let me see. Let me go through my list here. Let me just see what I want. Of course, you're not prepared. Go through. I mean, there is one that I really had a great time with. This is a four and a half star job or it's called rolling thunder from 1977. Okay. You heard about this. William, Devane, Tommy Lee Jones. No.

Great poster. I think it just got probably a nice physical release. I think I watched on prime recently returned Vietnam POW loses his family and his right hand during a violent home invasion. And he seeks retribution against those responsible. So this is 1977. This is prime time where you want to see a movie like this. I hear snickering on the call. It's just we're just laughing. That's all I hear snickering, but I dare you to watch this movie and not enjoy it. Well, I dare you.

I'm snickering because I remember reading your review. And I remember there was some kind of line in this room view that stood out to me. And it's you have a line. I mean, I'm really Jones quietly putting a shotgun together as he gets a hand job. Is it triumphant? Like I said, I dare you to watch this movie and not love it. I mean, it also deals with like the lead character.

He was like a, you know, he has PTSD from being a prison or war. So in the some of the scenes like where the home invasion happens, he like freezes up. You know, and then there's several scenes like the line that I love that I wrote my review. This is a non HJ line. H job. That's how you beat people that torture you learn to love them. They don't know you've beaten them.

So pretty I thought was pretty deep movie. Lot of fun. And this was a J well recommendation J well. Also member of our community. When I see J well give like a four star or higher to a 70s or 80s movie. I perk up. Okay. I perk up. Okay. Danny, what's what's your list? The first one that came across that I wanted to spotlight was the 2023 film starting starting Judy Greer called a poria. It's the low five sci fi time travel movie that I just absolutely loved.

Yeah, it's it's it's just it's one of those movies that kind of you know fits that low five void vibe and it's about she's a she's a single mother raising her child. Husband was killed by a drunk driver and there were their mutual close friend is like a super scientist and he figured out kind of how to time travel. But it's not strong enough to send a human back in time but strong enough to send a pulse that could kill someone.

And so they could send it to a time in place to kill someone and how that would cause a butterfly effect to maybe save her husband from being killed by the drunk driver. So I loved that film. I thought Judy was amazing in it. And it really kind of has a great kind of spiral kind of out of control. But it's a very condensed story and I loved it. When will we cover the butterfly fact on the show? Listen, has anyone watched a video with aston cutter on YouTube in the last five or 10 years?

This guy I don't I don't use the term grifter lately but there's a grift happening in the text space. Okay, be safe. I mean, is it fair to say that we're living within a golden era of low five sci fi confirmed? Yeah, I think so. You've confirmed it right now, brother. You just did. Confirmed. These big budget movies can eat it. Tired of them. Part out next top top movie. Next on my list, I'm moving to watch back in June. Pizz, y'all.

This was a part of my criterion challenge this year and this is a movie about these young kids living on the street in. Was it Brazil? I think it was Brazil. Yeah, street kids. But I was really taken by this movie. It's a tough watch, but it's like, you know, it's like capital C cinema type of movie.

It reminded me of city of God a lot. Even kind of like Roma had like similar vibes to me in this of just kind of how it's like despairing but also like bitter sweet and like hopeful at the same time in some ways of just like what you follow these kids who are just. Just stuck in this life. They didn't choose it and they're just trying to survive and going through hell.

It's a pretty powerful story and like a different look at just like what life can be. It's just so so far removed from anything that I experienced. I have experienced in my life up to this point and seeing like a 12 year old go through things unimaginable is just like really powerful. So if you want to buckle up. I recommend to show I gave five stars. Buckle up and perk up so people need to do. I want to I so how many movies I have on here? I got nine movies on this private list. Hello.

A couple of that were episodes of ours. I guess we've had some five bang first youngs this year. Hi and low was one of them. It's not my what I'm going to say. Hi and low is not a movie. What I'm going to say. I do recommend that people seek out film. Remember the movie. The film kind of came and went probably on video and demand from you. Yeah, the 93 year old right.

Film a post gets adduped by a phone scammer pretending to be your grandson. So she sets out a treacherous quest across the city to reclaim what was taken from her. I thought this was adorable. Might be my movie of the year as I said in my review. Wow. Yeah, I'll say it right now. I don't I don't give a ness who's listening. But anyone who has a grandmother or a mother of that age. You can see like I saw my entire family in this movie at various points.

June's quib a revelation. I hope she gets nominated for Oscar. And I hope she wins. It's a great movie. I wrote one of my gag reviews. I said I saw the TV glow but for people with aging parents or grandparents. I can't do that what you will. I don't get it. Film it. It is now the 761 movie on my watch list. Maybe it's time for you to declare watch list bankruptcy. I'm rich. I'm rich, my friend. Not giving up this wealth. Okay, Danny. I'm going to go back to a movie I logged in February.

It came out in 2023. I didn't get to watch it until it was streaming. The iron claw. Five star movie. I thought Zach Efron was incredible in this film. I thought the story was incredible. In tears at the end, a Holt McConnie love him as the father in this film. This movie got me good. I thought about the other day I was going through my 824 Zines. I had a fantastic Zine for this movie. So yeah, the iron claw. If you like sports movies, this could be for you.

Brotherhood. Heavy. Sweat tears. It's got it all. Zach Efron walking around that movie. I was just afraid at any moment. He was just going to bust out of his clothes. They would just start ripping apart. I don't even think he needed to get that ripped for the movie. Because the guy he was playing wasn't even mega ripped from his body size. I think about that scene where he's sitting at the diner with Lilly James. I forget the name of her character, Pam.

When she asked something about wrestling being fake, gosh, I loved his response. I don't remember what it said, but it was so earnest. They felt like honest and I loved it. He said, go sit and spin, Pam. God, Lee. That was the 70s. Can you say that? Yeah, you can now. Who's tearing is it? It's part of his turn. I think it's back to me. My final third movie. I'm going to pick a movie from this year, 2024. A highlight of the theater experience for me this year.

Maybe my favorite movie or 2024 so far? Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Oh, my gosh. Okay. You. I mean, if you're sleeping on Kingdom because it's the 17th movie in the series, you need to wake up and watch this movie. I mean, it's on Hulu now. Again, no excuse. My recommendation. It's the highest recommendation that you can hear about a movie. Go out and watch it. I mean, it's amazing special effects. We all saw it. I mean, we all thought it was real apes. We covered this movie.

Yeah. We had the check if it was really CGI. It's true. Incredible. We sued them to get proof today of CGI. We took them to court. I remember the bird song. The last scene. Time to go back. I mean, who are the geniuses behind the Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes and the Apes trilogy where they've re- like rebooted it three times and it's still hot and fresh? It's a good point. My last one, I'm going to go fun one too. You know, I went hard on my rating and review for this movie.

It was a date night in my review. It's not often where I, when I say this in a review, but I said a triumph. It was my first line. The fall guy. Five star experience in theaters seeing this. I had so much fun. David Leach, Emily Blunt, Ryan Gosling, so much fun. I mean, they don't make them like this anymore. And it made no money. So that's why they don't make them like this anymore because it's not cost effective. But I mean, this is is rent. Can you rent this? I don't know.

It was rentable the week after it came out. They gave like a 30 minute extended version. I don't understand what happened. Like, why did this movie just fail so hard? Like, they were marketing this out the A at the A. Right? Yeah. Yeah, it's a great question. Ryan was showing up to stunt shows at a theme park to promote this. That YouTube video got recommended to me. I actually watched him at a fall guy stunt show.

Yeah. It was the water world stunt show that they turned into the fall guy stunt show. Like, what more do they need to do? Yeah. This movie did come out in May though. Like, if it came out in July, do you think it would have been different? Hmm. It's a good question. Great question. Maybe like, you know, fourth of July weekend, people are hungry to get out of the heat. The heat wave that hasn't broken yet, it's unstoppable as heat wave. And I'm tired of that. Climate change. Danny?

You know, I'm going new fun watch as well. Just happened this month. I guess last month. It's August now. Twisters. Hmm. Absolutely love Twisters. Incredible fun time at the theater. I thought it was a great follow up to the first movie, which is also an incredible fun time. It just doesn't get much better than a summer movie than Twisters. I just had a great time watching it. I think Glenn Powell is cooking with gas right now. I'm afraid for the fall off on him. People protect him, please.

Daisy Ecker Jones. Love her too. She's incredible as well. It's just a fun cast. Really had a good time watching it. We don't need him getting Lin Manuel Miranda. Okay. You know, it gets so hot that he gets like new clear missing that people start to turn. I'm not saying who has turned on Lin. He's a very successful entrepreneur. Okay. Just saying it could happen. I was looking at the box office numbers, not that the box office is the end of the meal.

But Twisters made 81 mil opening weekend domestic. It's pretty good. Fall guy made 27. Can we get some assays written on what happened? Someone smarter than us. Yeah. I'm not that smart. So there you have it. That's all of us. Those are our three. Maybe we'll make a list and put it on our letter box to count. It's an official letter box to 70 mm pod list. Give us a blog. See that list. Every week we give out a free year of letter box patron and we're going to try something different.

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I appreciate all that you do for the show. And I did notice that we did gone in 60 seconds last week. But you followed up and you watched the sequel to gone in 60 seconds. You watched our boy Dominic Siena's next movie swordfish. Yeah. Now I've never seen this movie. You gave this four stars. And I remember this movie getting like trashed. And when I look at my friends list, it's not above like two stars. So let's go on. I mean, if you look, I logged it in 2019 and I gave it two stars.

So what happened? I don't know. I mean, I don't remember. I remember this movie being at the video store. This is 2001. This is the prime time for all your old past. That's what I'm poster. Yeah. This iconic poster, even the backdrop is just like a PR photo of a Hallibary, John Chivalta and Hugh just standing there. It's very bizarre, but I can't get enough of it. There's just something about this movie that I found in just a delight.

It's weird. It's Dominic Cena on a whole new level from gone on 60 seconds. And Hugh Jackman plays like one of the world's greatest hackers. He's off. He's living off grid. And Hallibary comes to like offer him a job for John Chivalta. And it has one of the most insane moments that I can think of in a movie. Like I don't know why more people don't talk about this scene. But when he first gets introduced, he gets flown out to be John Chivalta, who's giving the performance of a lifetime.

Like this guy who, you know, I don't know, a game porter, axe porter, whatever. So he has to give this display that he can, he has the goods as a hacker, or he might just get shot in front of John Chivalta. So he turns this laptop around and it's like the department of defense log in. And he's like, see what you can do with this. Hugh Jackman and Hugh has to like hack into the main hack into the DOD. But at the same time, John Chivalta advises one of his muses to give Hugh Jackman a...

Probably, I'm wrong. I'm trying to think of a funny way to phrase this word like the new old fashioned down there. Yes. Like she would go downtown. So he is having this put on him as he's trying to hack into the department of defense. Like it is full on. It's in, it's pretty insane. It's, it's a wild moment and it gets wilder. That has a big cast. John Chivalta plays the cop that is kind of after him like Del Rey Lindo was for Nicholas Cage. Vinny Jones is also in this. I had a lot of fun.

So that's all you need. I had fun. It looked great. And I said my review scene, I had the juice. Happy for you. I don't know what happened though, like with Dominic Cena. Like I look at his filmography and he did another Nicholas Cage movie season of the Witch, which I've not seen. Is that not for Halloween? I have no. This is like some black plague crusader movie. 2.2 on Letterbox.

True. And then he hasn't really done anything else. So I'm not really sure what Dominic Cena has been up to personally. The Antoine Fuqua of his day. Oh my gosh. Will you be watching Swordfish, the sequel to Golden Sexy Seconds, Proto? I'm putting it on the watch list. It's 762. We will see it in 10 years from now. We're all still alive. I'm Florida gets you surfed by the ocean and is sucked down. Excuse me. The new old fashion. Okay. Episode 231 Training Day was my pick for bad cops do crime.

I believe the category was that Proto had offered Proto. Do you remember off the top of your head, the other picks that were available besides training day? Badly Tenant was in there. Badly Tenant, Deep Cover was also in it and I'm pulling it up now. One moment please. Where is it? Oh, the departed. The departed. The departed. We'll get to the departed one day. We'll get to it. I just felt like it's not time yet. Mark Wahlberg month. Oh my God.

What about the one? Did you see watch the trailer for that movie that he's coming out in where he shaved his head to look bald? But he shaved his head to the top and the side stayed where he's like a pilot. What? Yeah, that's what he's indiretited. It looks pretty crazy. Passion of the Christ too. Starting Mark Wahlberg. God, what if? Oh my God. Because he's like a super Catholic. Yeah, he's a super Catholic. This is crazy. Dude. Alright, we need to move on. I can't focus right now.

Training day, 2001. Antoine Fuqua. Proto, what is this movie? Alonzo is a narcotics detective for the Los Angeles Police Department. He is a highly decorated officer who has incarcerated countless criminals. But he has come to use illicit means to achieve his goals. Jake Hoyt is assigned to work with Alonzo for a day as an evaluation for his promotion to the team. Hoyt is shocked by Alonzo's methods and grapples with whether this is how the war on drugs needs to be fought.

But as the day unfolds, Hoyt discovers that there is more to Alonzo than he let on, and that his first training day may be his last. I'm sad. David Ayer. Remember David Ayer? Who can forget him? Swat. End of watch. Wrote the Fast and the Furious as well. Furie. And then I think he directed Suicide Squad as well. Wrote and directed Suicide Squad with Will Smith, Jared Leto, Margot Robbie. Has he ever missed? Didn't he have some stuff happening with Suicide Squad?

It got taken from him and was re-edited. Does anybody remember it? Does it ring a bell to anybody? I think Ron Howard came in and read it everything. Can you imagine the junket of Ron Howard talking about Suicide Squad? I'm not even going to do it in Prussian. It's too much. Do you have a Ron Howard impression? I've been working on it. I've been working on it quite a bit. Maybe I'll do an IG story of me working on my Ron Howard impressions.

So, 2001, I've said it often times this was when I was working at the video store. So, this is a poster DVD cover that I've seen. It's etched into my memory. And I probably have not watched this movie until... The last time I watched it was probably 2001-2002 in that video store. I was really enjoying training day. But, at the time, I think I was not paying attention to the Oscar talk. This was the one that he won for. I think at the time, maybe there was talk that it was a makeup Oscar for him.

Because he's had so many big ones that he was great in this. But some people didn't think he was the best of the year. But he was great. Remember the Titans was the movie just before this from Denzel. Did you get nominated for that too? Maybe you should have. The Hurricane, which we talked about, I think in the uncut episode last week. Before that, the bone collector siege, he got game fallen, filled off a few years for that. So, then after training day, it was John Q. I remember that movie.

Yeah. He was like, kidnapped it. Well, he didn't kid a healthy bossage for a family. Antoine Fisher. He was a man on fire, inside man, deja vu. So, he was still cooking. Hard. Dan, did you watch this in 2001 at all? You know, I feel like I did. And I've told myself that I've seen this movie. But when I sat down to watch it this time, I couldn't tell you a damn thing about this film outside of King Kong and got nothing on me. That's all I remember from this film.

So, I didn't know the plot twists, I didn't know anyone's character intentions. It really did feel like sitting down and watching it for the first time. And I think maybe I've told myself I watched it sometimes because it feels like when you talk about 90s films or Densel, it's like, oh, training day. Like, it's like the sys in Kane of the 90s or something. But yeah, I feel like I've seen this. I know I've seen it. I don't remember it.

I probably saw it too young to where I just would rather be watching like fast and furious. You were throwing touchdowns when this movie came out. No, we were graduated. Slum, please. You were getting married to Casey. You didn't have time for training day at the movie theater. I threw off my graduation cap and went straight to the altar. We still haven't got any photos of Casey's Mustang that she was talking about last week. Oh, yeah, we're going to find one of those photos. Casey's in bed.

Proto? I did not see this in 2001. I would have been a little too young. But I feel like this might have been a movie that my parents rented and watched. And when they would do that at this time, it was really sad for me because our TV was in the basement. So, you know, if my dad loved movies, he's always watched movies. And if he had no qualms about kicking us kids out of the room so he could watch an adult movie. But also blasted. My dad loved and still loved to watch everything very loud.

He's always loved good sound systems. So I would be like, I could hear the whole movie no matter where I went in the house. But I couldn't watch it basically. Goodness. And it was a real bummer to get kicked out of the basement where the TV was because also the family computer was there. So at this point, it was like, I have nothing. I'm, you know, all I can hear is that the base throughout the house of training day or whatever it was that was on. So I watched this a couple years later, I guess.

I must have just like, it stuck out my mind as something I wanted to see. And I remember being kind of like unprepared for this movie. I think like the thrill of this movie, the way it was shot, the content of it. At the time, I don't think I'd seen something like it and it kind of shook me to my core. So that's my main memory of watching this of just being like, I'd never seen a movie quite like it before. That bath tub seemed like a rocked your world. Yeah. Did you get flashbacks watching?

Yeah. He saw himself in a little hoi. Let's see. So we'll go around the room and talk about it maybe our top points on this rewatch necessarily. First thing I just want to say is how I watch that this isn't maybe like a point that I just want to mention it. So we moved my office back upstairs. I used to be in the basement in a dingy basement, but my son and I just switched rooms because I kind of had enough of the dingy basement.

So I brought the TV, the LG OLED upstairs and hung it on the wall, but the office is like near our master bedroom. So I wore my Beats Fit Pro headphones because they like sync really well with Apple TV. Let me tell you something. That's just smooth experience because like I was wearing my earbuds listening to this movie and watching it. But it has like that spatial audio. So like I'm looking at the TV, the audio is head on.

But if I turn left, it like tricks the earbuds to make it seem like the audio is still like it's like I'm listening to a TV with that headphones on. So like I turn left, the audio is like only in my right ear. What? It's pretty wild. I don't know why they do that, but it's kind of cool. I feel like you're one step away from watching movies on VR at the moment. I would love to get an Apple headset on watch. Are you about to train a movie in VR?

Oh my God. So yeah, it's been 20 years since I've seen this. I guess one of my first point, obviously, Denzel is great, but like it takes place in one day. It's like one of those movies that is just over the course of one day. And you're like, yeah, turning a day idiot. But I kind of forgot that it's literally just a 24 hour period. It's like one day of work. And there was like one moment where it's like after he is coming down from PCP. Oh my God, this is still the same day.

Like this poor guy going through all of this stuff. And I think that was even before he gets like his ass beat and almost murdered in the bathtub. Oh yeah. I mean, one of the worst days you could probably have for a human being. And I thought Ethan Hawk. I didn't realize he had not gotten nominated as well for a supporting actor. But he was amazing in this movie. Like every time there's cameras on him and he just looks miserable. And he's just like, I can't believe this is my life right now.

But yeah, the one day aspect I had forgotten about. And it's like, you know, the upper echelon of one day movies is like after hours and Ferris Bueller's Day off, Mikey and Nikki. But man, this is one, this is like an all time or one day movie. I feel bad for everyone involved, to be honest. Perl would about you. Yeah, that's such a crazy part. Oh, I kind of think of it's like one 36 hour day. It feels like I kind of don't really. I don't buy the timeline necessarily in this movie.

It's like, you tell me because he like, he, yeah, he does the PCP. And then they go, he goes to his, his, his girl's house. He takes a nap on the couch. Then they go to like see the wise men. And then they go, like, and then they go to the house. Then they kill the guy. It's like, this just doesn't totally add up. This is a jam pack day. This is a really big day. But that's the magic of movies, folks. That's why I love them. Yeah. I think I think I love that kind of bit.

We're kind of as we watch. Like I even love movies that. I guess it reminds me of like 24 or something where something is real time or. You know, it's just, it's a, it's a nice little nod to, I don't know. It's just, it's just a fun kind of part of the movie. And keeping this in the first day of Ethan's training or Hoyt's training. It's a little bit brilliant. It's, it's kind of fun.

Yeah. Yeah, I think it really works well thematically because in a lot of ways, even though I've seen this before, I mean, there's so much of this movie I'm like, wait, is this how it really is? Like there's so many thoughts I had about like how far from reality is this movie in terms of like what it could be like the experience. I know a lot of it is, you know, exaggerate in certain ways. But parts of it, you're like, well, could this be like the, you know, the way it is? So I like that.

I love 24 when that show came out. I might have loved 24 more than lost when that show was coming out with Keifers' other one. And then like they did, they did like one season where he came back after being imprisoned for an off season. And he was like off his game. He like couldn't, he couldn't, he couldn't man up anymore. Yeah, it's a great, it's a great gimmick. Well, I'm about 24, man. Like that cliffhangers in that show. Like they just, they had you tied. Like there's, you had to watch.

Yeah, I might need to go back. Maybe I stopped X files, my X files are rewashed into 24. That's like a hundred episodes. Part of what's at the top of your list for this rewatch? The top of my list. And I'm not really quite sure how to totally describe it. But I kept having this thought the whole time watching it is that this feels to me in a lot of ways like a fairy tale almost. Maybe like an urban fairy tale. There's something about the way it's presented.

And maybe like of just like this, this character of Hoyt being this almost like a white night, right? Like he comes in, he's, he's got like this, this view of the world that it works a certain way. Like he, you know, he's come riding in that he's going to do the right thing and, and right the wrongs. And then he discovers what the world is really like.

And even like Denzel's character, I think they do such a great job in this, in this of like really blurring the line and like keeping you questioning of like, well, you know, doesn't make sense like the things that he's doing. Like he makes a some really great arguments throughout this movie of that. Like we need to do these things if we want to win. Like the means justify the ends. This is how the world really works. Like it's not like the police academy when you're out on the street.

This is how it, how it functions. So even that of like him being like almost like this figure of like this hero who is like falling from grace over this 24 hour period in Hoyt's mind of like, and he keeps kind of going like up and down of like, he's a bad guy. Oh, maybe he has a point there. I know he's a bad guy. Oh, but you know, this does kind of make sense.

You know, this, this speech he gave me and then even like the final scene, I kept thinking of like the final scene of seeing Hoyt walk back into this neighborhood. It's like it felt like a night like walking back into which the dragon's layer almost. So I don't know if like that totally works, but there was something about it that felt that way to me that like it's. Maybe I do, I do like in certain ways.

I don't know, but like that, that's just like a thought that kept coming back to me while I was watching this. Yeah, I did read some thoughts about like how Hoyt walks through the town as almost like a white savior ish where it was almost like squitely copaganda where like the good, the one good cop and they were kind of like dispelling some of the historical problems with the LAPD and stuff.

But that scene where he walks through the town and it's like if you don't catch early in the movie where those dudes like bad mouth a Lonzo, you know, like when when they like you miss that scene why they let him in. And it's so powerful too when he's like I'm here, I'm here for a Lonzo and they just like step aside. Like that was so bad ass like that whole thing was so cool. I was like, Hell yeah, go wreck his ass. I'm ready for it. Excuse me.

I did think though that when he decides to go back and get a Lonzo, I'm like, dude, I would just go home and call into bed in the fetal position. Right. Well, he does like he talks about how he had this plan. It's revealed that he's had this plan for like weeks for Hoyt, right? Yeah. And he probably pulled strings to get Hoyt in because he thought he was like a moldable young rookie to bring him into the fold.

And like you can kind of see it in a few scenes where he looks like very impressionable where he could probably he's you know he was pretty right on like I could get this guy to be like me. And you know, another asset. I actually thought maybe about halfway through because I had that feeling too like, oh, I can mold this guy to be the next guy in my crew. But then I was like, maybe he was just set up to be murdered the whole time. Like he was always going to be the fall guy.

I don't know, it just it almost felt like a little too. He's he's literally taking this boy scout who wants to be super detective cleaning up L.A. from drugs. And thinking he's going to just in one day put this guy through this kind of ringer and think he's just going to drop and turn. I got to the point. I was like, I don't believe that. I feel like he was set up to be killed the entire time.

I mean, there was the scene he probably would have known that like, okay, I got this rookie coming in coming in the day that we should be able to get the million dollars. So like, this is the moment. If he says yes to taking the money, then we're golden. And I have this guy. But then like he says no. And then gets freaked out a couple times. And that's when he's like, all right, I got to cut this guy loose.

Yeah. Yeah. I think you're right because I love the foreshadowing or maybe it's not really foreshadowing, but after that scene, you know, Hoy puts the shotgun in Lonzo's face. When he goes out to the car and Lonzo's talking on the phone, the thing that he says on the phone, he says make sure that the bathtub is clean. Which is he's talked like he's already so like at that point, it feels like, oh, he failed the test. This guy's not going to work. And he's going to cut him loose at that point.

So I think you're right about that. That was the real test of will he fall for the money or not? Also, how bad do you feel when you start to slowly realize that you are effed at this poker table? That poker table. I wanted to throw up when they have him sit down. They took his magazine from, I'm like, no, I hate this moment right now. I was out of my skin. I wanted out of that scene so bad. Yeah, it was terrible. Why would you even ever hand over your gun though? Like as a cop.

What is happening? Is that is that page one of like the handbook? Just don't hand someone your gun. Actually gang members, please guard table. When they reach you with pig, maybe maybe don't hang on your gun. Seems like a bad idea. But I love how that almost like ties back to the beginning where Alonzo was telling him, like, you have to be able to like roll with these people. Like, you have to speak their language. You have to be in with them.

And I feel like you could almost see Hoyt thinking about that in that scene of like, man, if I don't give my gun right now, they're going to think I'm just a pain really. Like, I'm not one of them. And then I think they did like, tow the line very well in that scene. Because like, you could see them kind of having some sort of rapport happening, you know, some boys at the table making jokes like, all right, maybe they're cool. Or no, they're actually just going to kill him like this whole time.

And I thought that was pretty well done. God. I'm going to throw up just thinking about it. Please don't throw up tonight, Danny. We have Apex season 22. Like Snoop Dogg in a wheelchair trying to hide Snoop Dogg almost beat him. While he was in the wheelchair, he was body and weight. Is that your first point, Danny? Snoop Dogg is stronger than I thought he was. Actually, my first point, I thought this movie looked incredible.

And from not just from like, I mean, LA Grunge, I don't think that's like terribly hard to like photograph. But using these like real flip, these like film locations, the color grading in this, I thought it was incredible too. I mean, outside of like him, high on PCP or whatever, I thought that was awesome. But it was like whatever. I just, this movie looks so good. The blocking, the shots in this film, when they're having their conversations in the car.

I mean, we spend most of the time in this film. It feels like in the car and the two of them having these conversations. But every different kind of angle that this is filmed at with these conversations, it keeps like, it feels like how this film is shot is how like the movie is progressing. It's some way the feelings of these conversations. It's just, it's really impressive to me. Yeah, I just, I thought it was amazing.

And then when I watched a little bit of kind of like a making of, and I had, it was Antoine got these locations filmed that are actual kind of gang areas where cameras are really never allowed to be in. And just having the location shot and having the gang members in these films, there was a story that was like quickly said that he was Antoine from like the projects I think of Pittsburgh or somewhere. And he, a film crew came to his like area and that's what kind of got him into films.

And it showed like kids like standing by watching them make training day. So it's kind of, it was like a, looked like almost bittersweet. But just, just the visuals of this film I was kind of in love with. Every, everything just looked incredible. I just looked up the cinematographer, Maro Fury. Listen to this top five most popular film shop I'm, Maro. Spider-Man No Way Home. Okay. Avatar. Madam Web. This is a roller coaster right now. Training day and X-Men Dark Phoenix. That is crazy.

He also did the equalizer with Antoine and Denzel again. And I know that I think Antoine, I mean, I'm looking up Antoine's filmography as well because I'm curious. But the equalizer movies are like beloved. He did the guilty with Jake Johnhall, that Netflix movie about like the Dispatcher Desk movie. The Magnificent Seven. Olympus has fallen and then he did Shooter With, who potentially could be cast Jesus in the next patch in the Christ. Mark Wahlberg.

I'm looking at the banner of Magnificent Seven and it has Denzel and Ethan Hawk on it. Excuse me. They're in that movie together. The Spirit of Sequel. Chris Pratt. He also in that as well. Makes you think. This feels like a John birth all movies. No. Listen John, I'm listening. I'm listening. John, if you're going to put a pod episode out about the filming of that movie, I'm going to listen to it. Yeah. Is it my turn? I think.

Maybe. How about the G-Shock that Ethan put on at the start of the movie? Did you catch that? Yes. I think, yeah, he looks at it later in the movie too. Pratt, are you next point? I'm going to get an angry iTunes review about how I just wanted to talk about that. 10 dollars G-Shock that Ethan wore. Let's talk about Denzel. Denzel, obviously Magnificent in this movie. He looks so young in this, both of them look so young in this movie.

It's hard for me to mentally grapple so that this movie is over 20 years old, but they look great. Denzel looks like he's never looked better. Yeah. His fit in this movie, his confidence is off the charts, just absolutely staggering. He's got so many great lines, most of which I can't repeat. They're amazing in this movie. I didn't realize, or maybe I had forgotten, that his King Kong line was improvised towards the end. He makes that speech. I'm the man up in this piece.

You'll never see the light of you. You don't fuck you think you're fucking with. I'm the police. I run shit here. You just live here. Yeah, that's where you better walk away. Go on, walk away, because I'm the burn this motherfucker now. King Kong ain't got shit on me. Yeah, this is definitely one of my top 20 Denzel movies. Performance is Danny, what about you? I think Denzel is electric in this.

I think some of my favorite moments is when they're having the conversations in the car, but it's after... all this convincing of Ethan, that what he's doing is whatever, the part of the job. Then Ethan will do something, and he kind of brings Ethan back with this praise of what Ethan just did as if he's proud of him, some sort of father figure. He beat up the guys assaulting the girl or something. He was shocked and happy for him.

There's these moments when he goes from being this confident asshole to this almost fatherly figure, proud of what Ethan's doing and twisting him and manipulating him even further, that he just switches on and off so well that I'm not shocked that he won the Oscar for this. I don't know any other, whatever happened else that year, Oscar wise, but man, every scene Denzel, I'm just glued to the screen watching every movement he does. Yeah, he's a total force.

People talk about like, oh, he's a force of nature. Really this character in this movie, he is the movie for the most part. I love that too of how I love the thing about his character is that no matter what happened a minute before and it could have been completely a complete surprise, like, you know, Hoy Thurungham in the couch and putting the shotgun in his mouth and Denzel, Lonzo is like not phased at all as a person. He's like, all right, you got it. That's what I'm talking about.

That's what I like to see, baby. And you're just like, how could you be on and like ready for every single encounter? No matter. Wow. Also, you find out at the end that he's got a bounty on his head that he has 24 hours to meet, you know, or he's dead, a dead man. Like that as well, like the pressure that would be on this guy, like the moving parts in his life that are going on. And when you see it, once you know all that, this character of Denzel, it's like believable.

Like it's totally believable that this guy could handle all this from his performance. And that's, that's really incredible. I had this one thought while I was thinking about Denzel and maybe I was saying, like actors have like three, maybe, like three categories of things. You can have looks, you can have charisma, and you can have acting, an acting skill. And some people get by on one of those, some of them have two.

Like I think of like Joaquin Phoenix, like he has really great skill, but I don't know if he's like hired for his, his charm or like his looks, but he's a great actor. But then there's like people like I would say like Nick Cage and Keanu are kind of like, they have like a lot of charisma and they've like built this persona over the years that like kind of continues on. I mean, to Cage, he can act good. It's kind of hit or miss, I think.

But I think Denzel is like one of those rare actors who has like all three of those. And like has him in spades. Like, I mean, his mouthwork is like amazing. Like the way he like licks his lips and smiles and shows his teeth and like smiles at the, it's just like, it's just perfect. He has like the greatest walk in the history of film. Like his swagger walking into that town into the house to find, you know, Ava Mendes, he begged Ava Mendes and that town hates him.

And he goes in there and he goes in there and he's really, he's a rookie cop in there. Just sit on the couch. Take a nap. Take a nap. Who knows how much time passed in that moment? And there was also like that scene too where he's grinning. It was early on where you kind of, you get the idea or the impression that, sorry, I just went off.

He gets the impression that he knows that he has a moldable rookie cop because remember, like early in the movie, he asks Ethan something and Ethan's like laughing. Like, I don't know what to think. And Denzel's like, good, good. Like he knows that he has him potentially. And there's just so many scenes like that. Yeah. Like when a hoiit is like beating up the rapists, he like, he finally gets to, he just takes out cigarettes.

He's like, just to watch to see how he can handle this, you know, event. It's so crazy. And what I love about his character too is how they, when we're first introduced to him at breakfast, it is like, like pedal to the metal right away. Denzel is on his ass at breakfast, trying to read a paper or a breakfast. Tell me a story. This is the best story you could come up with. You made me stop reading my paper for this story. Like he is on his ass right away.

But he just doesn't let go until, you know, he's killed by the Russians. It's crazy. Ethan in that scene too. Like Ethan, he just like looks like a fish out of water. Like no, he had all. Yeah. They're so great together. They're chemistry together is nuts. Like we're right at the onset. Like, remember he tells him to shut up for like the final time and the camera just stays on Ethan reacting to that. Yeah. For like, what felt like five minutes because he didn't know what to do.

And he's like thinking of every possible option he has there. It was insane. Yeah. Oh, I guess I will get a menu. No, that's just. Proto. Second. Yeah. Back to what Danny was saying just about like the way this movie looks. I think it's gorgeous too. We were just talking about that, that the scene in the beginning when they're getting breakfast or reading the paper. Like even the way that shot, I mean, it just looks so good.

In a lot of ways, this is turning out to be car month because I mean, his money car low in this is gosh, when he first turns that on and they roll out the needle. Oh, my God. That needle drop. But I feel like like this whole movie, it very much has, it feels like it's structured of like the scenes are very much like as I'm watching it, I'm thinking, oh, it's this scene.

In a way that like when I watch a Tarantino movie, where like each scene feels like crafted in a way and very specific that I like, I know what to expect. One of the other scenes that I loved in this is the wise men scene where they go to the restaurant and he sits down with the, the DA and the other two. To me, that felt like a Martin Scorsese scene. That's like such a gangster scene. Like the lighting in that, that restaurant, the smoke. I mean, it's just so good.

I was just eating all that up. And you could see too that like he has a respect or he's like aware of their power. Like that was the first like scene early on where you can see that he has that like feeling towards other people that hold something over him. Like he needs them. That was a cool scene. Danny, next point. Yeah, we quickly touched on it, but I did want to talk about Ethan a little more. I, when you bring up training day, it's always talked about Denzel and it written rightfully so.

But to be able to like act alongside of Denzel and I can't, I can't speak on like if there was some other actor would Denzel, I don't know what his performance has been as good if it wasn't someone as good as Ethan because I feel like Ethan playing off of Denzel's performance elevated the two of them to like a deservedly nominations and winning of these roles because Ethan is so good in this.

I couldn't get over his, his story arc from being what you said, Proto like fish out of water at breakfast to like literally turning on Denzel by the end of the film and like the an incredible kind of, you know, 36 hours of a training day. It's it's it's it's it's it's something that I feel like this has to be like shown in every like film class.

Some sort of performance is you have two incredible powerhouses in this film portraying two completely opposite people and it's just it's an incredible thing to see. And you don't even know where the character goes at the end of this movie. Like I couldn't remember if he went to internal affairs at some point. I thought he got his followed home at the end. There's like a car that followed him into the neighborhood. I thought, Oh, God, it's almost over again for him.

Yeah. Like I wondered did he stay a cop like what was his future like after that night? You have no idea because it's he's got to watch magnificent seven. You have to watch swordfish. Spiritual sequel to also training day. I mean, John Jervolton, many ways is a white Alonzo from good gracious without the Oscar. How about that peanut butter ass story they told for a while?

Oh, my God. Yeah. That got to a point where I'm like, this is a, this is a this is like you tell the story around the dinner table as a joke. There's no way someone's getting an insane ruling after that. You imagine doing that to somebody as like a prank like you doing it to something like one of your friends. It's a great idea to probably get in their face. Oh, God. It took a little too far.

I want to talk about the ending because you know, they have this big standoff in front of the local people, you know, around Avis House that wrote like a Revile Alonzo and they're surrounding him. They kind of realized that they have a chance to kind of remove his power over them. So to speak. And I honestly couldn't remember what happened at the end of this movie. I was like, Oh, wait. So does this crew kill Alonzo after Ethan Hawke, like they tell him to walk away like we got this.

But then he is he doesn't they don't at least from what I can see they don't do anything to him. He leaves the town. He drives away and then the Russians get him. I was kind of confounded by the ending of this movie. Like why didn't they just piss to whip him after Ethan Hawke walked away? Like I thought that's what was going to happen. Like they finally maybe just get their revenge on him, but it doesn't happen.

Didn't you guys how did you guys view the only thing I thought of was they knew about the Russians somehow. So letting them go letting him go they knew he was going to be killed that night because he didn't have the million or the cash or whatever. I don't know it was an interesting kind of ending. I didn't hate it, but that was just kind of like whatever. It's fine. I kind of took it as if if they killed him there and there's a decorated detective narcotics officer dead in their neighborhood.

That's bad news for their whole neighborhood. I mean, it's already bad news for them, right? But like if there's a dead cop there, you're like you're screwing it for everybody in there. So. I like that too. I feel like they somehow might have known that there was something wrong and like he was a dead man anyway. Right. I guess I would have liked someone like to say something like that. Like someone like I took the gun to say that like get that out of here.

You're dead in two hours or something like that. Like we don't need to kill you. You're dead. Hmm. Um, also I just had to say after this may be ended, Paramount Plus started auto playing miscongeniality. Excuse me. That was just. I don't know what. I don't know what these are metadata needs to be updated in the app, but they need to update it. She's a narc in that as well. I mean, as soon as it started playing, I was like, am I watching? Yeah, I guess it sort of worked.

Yeah, I think I love about the ending is, and I don't know if this was planned, but the, the amount of spit that comes out of Denzel's mouth at the end there is the spit in the blood. It looks so great in, but I was like, how do you plan that or like, was that planned? Yeah. There's a memory actually spits and it is a giant wad of so I thought it's a lot of liquid. I also loved him too.

Like when he gets shot a million times, he's like crawling out of the car and he's like trying to pick himself up. He's got like no bodily functions working. He's trying to like stand up. It was so buddy. I'm glad you're laughing at that. Poor Denzel. What a final point. Final point. Yeah, I love the dialogue in this too. I mean, I think it looks great. The acting is amazing, but it also is like such a great script.

Like I loved all those moments of the arguing about the way that this job should be done between Denzel and Ethan. Like I thought that was so great. Like it takes a wolf to catch a wolf scene. Oh yeah. Yeah. You know him explaining all that. It's such good writing. I loved all that. And then like there's a lot of like callbacks of like the things that Lonzo was trying to instill in Hoi and teach him about the way the world works. This is like the evidence stuff.

I love how like Hoi at the end says like the money says that's my evidence. You want to go to jail or you want to go home like quoting Denzel from earlier. So there's just like there's like a lot of great things that like tie in about the things that Lonzo was trying to teach him throughout the day that he like turns the tables on him. So it's very satisfying. Yeah, I had that wolf line written down too. So good. One of the one I had all that jelly and no toast. I'd read a book written by Lonzo.

Absolutely. I mean, the amount of gems that he would have in that book, Cripes. One thing I just thought of, but there was an incredible shot when they're fighting and Hoi gets thrown on the roof. And the camera pans down to see Lonzo walking down the stairs and then the light is coming through the gate. Like, yeah, that was a wild shot. That was gorgeous. Danny final point. Final point.

I had there's a moment where I was frustrated with this film and it begins with the three wise men segment and kind of kind of goes forward. I was so confused on the story on what was happening with the Russians. I understood that he owed the money, but the whole plot to get the money back by having the crew go jump his I thought was a friend. Then I'm just completely confused on who the guy is now. The guy that looks like Spock.

I didn't I just didn't understand that segment and then I was just kind of like thrown like I understand they're like, you know, trying to set up this. I don't know scene to have the money given back so you can pay back the Russians, etc., but by that point, I'm like, what is happening? Like why are they doing this to his friend? Was this his first contact? I don't know. I got I got really frustrated at the story at that bit.

I don't know if you guys felt at all the same way with kind of how that played out, but I was just lost for a few minutes and it really bugged me. They definitely didn't give you much. Like they dripped the plot like the Russian stuff over the course of like the whole movie. And I think when he was hanging out with his friend, he alludes to, I don't know if that was like his old partner or like because he said like his first informant. His first informant.

He's like, yeah, you were the same way as he was when you first started out or when I was talking with you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. And then I think like the really the full reveal the Russian story doesn't happen until the bathtub scene, right? Like right before that, they tell him during the card game, the backstory of the Russian. Yeah. That's like the second time they tried to tell it.

I think the three wise men set up, they kind of allude to the Vegas situation with the Russians and that he owes them that money. But it's just so kind of vague that I'm just confused on how it's playing out a bit. Yeah. I actually liked it. I like because a couple of my notes, I was like, what the hell is the story with the Russians, what they're doing in Vegas and then eventually you find out. So I did, I didn't like that.

Yeah. I felt like I kind of remembered this from when I watched it previously. But I like how they, I think, yeah, they really do like trip it out. There's like maybe four or five lines about it until the end. So it's like all there, threaded through the movie, but they don't really explain it mostly till the end. So I thought it works. Yeah. And it's, I think what it also bugs me is it's just like all of a sudden there's Russians and they're never a point apart of this movie.

And then it's just like, you mean to tell me you didn't see the giant Hummer right next to you at the stoplight? You were that distracted by a lady smoking a cigarette and a Mercedes like that whole segment where he got trapped at the end. I'm like, I don't, I don't know. Was she Russian too? Because that card didn't go anywhere when he was getting shot. Maybe she was like the bait. It was very weird how that all of a sudden her car is like ends up behind him blocking, blocking him in. Oh, yeah.

She must have been a part of it. I mean, yeah, that's, I feel like the Russians in this are kind of like, like got in the machine kind of ending like, like someone had, like somehow this character has to die for that's true. And maybe for the story, we don't want it to be the gang members and we don't want it to be Hoy. So we need some other kind of element. That's right. You're the Russians. What about Russian? Yeah, bring the Russians. Vegas Russians.

Uh, honorable mentions, Ethan Waring, Robert Denny Jr. sized wide pants. That was my first note, very wide leg. You gonna smoke that? No, you are. And then Denzel's laugh in that scene is nuts. It's like they cut three different laughs together to one wall laugh. But that Denzel does the hand kiss to forehead move. It's a very Denzel move where he like his son, father of the year. Also Macy Gray, when they use that fake warrant to steal the Sandman's money.

Crystal Live. She's bad mouth and hoi from the couch. Where was Oscar for Macy Gray? You shot me in the ass. Great, great line. I'm at four stars for sure any day. Good. That's a great time. It visually, there's some visual snap to this movie for sure. Hmm. I had a great time. I've gone through, I was curious about some other Denzel movies like because they reteam for three equalizer movies. And I thought that maybe I could get some men on fire vibes from those equalizers. I didn't love them.

And I think I just reread my equalizer one review. And I said if Steven Segal was the lead of this movie, this would be the greatest Steven Segal movie ever made. But it's like Denzel in this movie. So it almost feels like Denzel is stepping down a little bit in the role. So I don't know. It's kind of hard to explain. Very interesting filmography. Proto? Honorable mentions, I saw some reviews people talking about feeling that this movie lacked a, maybe like a theme or like a message.

And I think that can be true. I think I didn't come away with feeling that it maybe necessarily said anything in particular. But like the more I thought about it, I really liked the idea that how like Ethan Hawks character is an example of Denzel's character as well, but just at the beginning of his career. And how like they start at the same place. And Ethan's Ethan could go in the same way.

So kind of like how even with like the best intentions, when you go down the road of like being persuaded to do bad things for for like good means, for good ends, how it can like corrupt you from the inside. And like that's, we kind of see like the ultimate conclusion of that in Alonzo. How I mean, he is just like, he's really like scum where health sacrifice anyone and everyone. And even like that scene where, you know, Hoyt gets sold off to be killed. How they're like bad mouth in Alonzo.

Like he's like the worst dude. Like you cannot trust him. Like he's just the worst. So I kind of, I like that. I think I feel like that's the thing that I take away most with this movie. And I think it's really compelling, especially from like a person, the seeing somebody in power and like where they could go with that. What else? Oh, when he says, Hoyt says should have been a fireman. I mean, that is a clear Jumanji homage. It's insane. I say that line all the time.

And then I thought another one, I love the scene with the doves. Like the idea that he would he drives into the neighborhood, they let doves out. I mean, that shot beautifully too, just like this, this, this, a flock of doves. But maybe an on the waterfront of marsh right there for those of seeing it. Check it out. Okay. Oh, yeah. And then at the end, Lonzo saying, what a day, what a day. What a day indeed. I'm at four stars as well.

I think this, yeah, this movie is, man, it's a, it's a delight. It's a treat. I love every aspect of it. I think it's gorgeous, perfectly acted. I mean, it's why not five stars? Respect my privacy. I'm not sure. Danny. I think the only thing I know that I have is, are having musicians as actors, a good thing. I mean, it's not just fine. Drey's okay. Macy Gray is, Macy Gray. I didn't think Drey was great at all. Even this, I don't know. I was struggling a bit, I think.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I love this film. I think just watching it for the performances of Denzel and Ethan alone is worth the price of admission. I do struggle with the story kind of once we get into the, you know, the weeds with the Russians. I'm at four stars as well. Okay. Okay. Little known facts. You know, box office is not important.

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Oh. Hey, guys. It's Anna. Big fan of the show. First time long time. I'm so tickled that you think I'm up to something with my intern upgrade. I just wanted to see what the hubbub is all about. Honestly with these cage picks, these audio commentary, these occasional drops that come. It was time. I did have a quick question about the tier that probably could have just been at DM. Sorry about that. I just wanted to know the viability of submitting a Chester Morgan picture into the page.

You guys brought it up recently. They did a real mom episode. They're just right by the way. And she's just got a fantastic pair of films to choose from. One where she kills mobsters using her giant boobs. And then there's another one where she's a spy using a camera search claim planted in them. It's essential. I just wanted to check the temperature and save some headaches. It could be a little controversial. I know. I'll take my answer off the air. Happy product pendants.

Happy product pendants. Why aren't we wishing each other happy product pendants? We should salute during the month of August. Oh my god. Thank you Anna. And thank you for becoming an intern. I mean, Chester Morgan. Can you imagine an audio commentary watching one of those movies? Always. God. We wouldn't even be able to post a video of that to Patreon. I don't think you need to sync that up yourself. I know what sites I'd have put in the dark web.

Thank you Anna. I wonder if Anna is coming to our meetup. Psycho August 31st. You heard of here first. The tickets are going fast folks. August 31st. It's happening in mere weeks from this episode dropping. We will be there in person talking before the movie goes up. I can't wait. And we're having a little gathering afterward for those that have RSVP'd. All right. What's next week? Let me pull up my little list here. I had it. I made that Patreon post today and I already forget. I can text.

What's next? Minority report. Oh my god. Podcast of Empire be damned. Tom Cruise finally on the show. Oh my god. It's huge. This isn't our first. Tom, is it? No, we just colored money. You guys hated it. Which one of you hated it? Proto. Sounds right. Boy, Tom Cruise. You know he's closing the Olympics when it ends October. Forever. He's doing stuff. He's running from LA to Paris, right? Otherwise he's getting in a chopper from Paris.

From Paris. When I report synopsis, two and a half hours, John works with the pre-crime police which stopped crimes before they take place with the help of three pre-cogs who can foresee crimes. Events ensue when John finds himself framed for a future murder. Oh my god, I can't wait to re-watch this. I'm so excited. I've only seen it the one time, so this is what I can't actually don't even know what happened in this film. Oh my god. I know. I'm very excited. Oh no. Speelberg too.

I know. God. I mean, Tom and Stephen together. They had something cooking for a little bit of time. We'll get into it. We'll get into it. Streaming on Paramount Plus. America's a network. There's no 4K of this, we don't think, right? We searched that one. We'll get into it. It'll be announced this week. Yeah. Ed then pulled from streaming. Okay. I'm excited. Tom back on the show. 2002. Same era. Gosh. Some would say the golden age. We'll get into it again. Pardon me closing thoughts this week?

Yeah, I wanted to give an update on my watching the documentary, The Story of Film. Obviously. Yeah. I'm back in the game. I'm, I watched through four episodes and it goes through the history of film chronologically. But what's cool about it, it's not the history of Hollywood. It's the history of film. So it's like from an international perspective. So it's about all kinds of things, all kinds of directors I never heard of, especially like, I mean, we're talking 1910s, 1920s, 1930s.

Film directors. So it's very cool. I'm like learning about things I'd never, directors have never even heard of. But it's, I don't think it's not something you have to watch in order. You can watch different episodes too because it's just, you know, I mean, it's just different periods in time. But I want to throw this out to you, Danny. Maybe you might be interested in this episode four covers the 1930s and he covers what he calls the greatest director of the 20th century.

And he gives seven reasons why Alfred Hitchcock. Yes. Okay. It's the greatest director. And watching it. So I mean, you can just turn that one on. Heck yes. I want it. My sweet prince. Alfred. We'll see you over next week for a minority report, Stephen Spielberg. 70 millimeter is a tape deck production featuring original artwork provided by Danny Haas.

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