Her (2013)

Hey, it's your old pal Slim, and this is 70mm podcast for movie lovers just like you. Disclaimer at the top of the show, we're not experts, but we do love watching movies. With me each and every episode is my close friend and artist, Danny Haas. Hello. And our close friend and AI insider, Protolexis. I'm dating a computer. Every movie that we cover is connected to a theme for that month, and this time it's lo-fi, psi, timber. Movies leaning on ideas more than effects.

And you can use the chapters in your podcast app to skip to our main discussion from 2013 and Spike Jonze, Her. But the big story tonight. I know people were anxious to hear our thoughts. This was breaking news in our Discord earlier. Dude wipes. Do you know what dude wipes are, Danny? Is that for guys to wipe their bums with? Yeah. Helps you get rid of mud butt. Excuse me. But there's a new scent that was revealed. This is a very popular flavor.

among one of the hosts at Starbucks. They get their coffee this, but it's a play on that. It's called Dumpkin Spice. So there's a new, there's a new scent. I wouldn't call it a flavor necessarily for dude wipes. You said flavor. Maybe it's like a scent, but our producer Dale has long been an ambassador of dude wipes. So if folks are into that.

And they need to clean up. I'm really curious what the effect is with this. Is it, you know, if you use a Dumkin dude wipe, can you smell like pumpkin spice? That's what I think it is. Yeah, I think you and the toilet probably have a scent. This is like a new age cologne. Instead of putting it on your wrist and your neck, you're wiping your A-cheeks with it. I don't think you wipe your cheeks. What do you think you wipe? Are you supposed to be wiping something else with these? Wait.

Danny, Google dude wipes. Don't you just wipe your... I mean, that's all connected. I'm not wiping my cheeks, though, with it. Well, that's what I mean. I mean you're a hole. I'm not like greasing a bowling ball over here. I was using shorthand for your hole. I said cheeks. I got to cut. I got to beep that out. I got to beep out b-hole. The Apple review we're going to get for this episode. God, Spotify has already pulled us. Let's see. So, folks, it's Lo-Fi Psy Timber.

We're crawling across the finish line after the last two weeks. The reviews have been not good for the movies. But we thought, let's change it up. I mean, we didn't actually think that. This was on the books for the whole month. It's her. Spike Jonze, her from 2013, bottom of the hour. We'll get into Joaquin Phoenix, Scarlett Johansson, Amy Adams, Rudy Mara.

And Chris Pratt. We'll get into it at the bottom of the hour. One of the things I was going to say, off show, but I'm going to a screening next week. I finally got the invite. Screening. One battle after another. Oh. Oh. You talk about dude wipes. You talk about needing to wipe. Yeah. These critics seeing this movie, they all need to wipe. Someone's got to wipe them.

This is saying movie of the year. Director, Oscar, Oscar's out the wazoo. Yeah, this is it. This is the one. This is finally for PTA? It's time. He's done it? After all these years, this could be like the, here you go, you earned it after all these years, Oscar. It feels like it's been a quiet year for Oscar anyway. Not a lot of buzz around anything. Yeah, who's a frontrunner? Maybe that's why this movie is hitting so hard.

Scorsese. It's been a low year. Rian Johnson saying the hype is not hype enough. Yeah. Transcendent. I think someone said. Spielberg. Spielberg has a quote out. Spielberg. Yeah. Steven Spielberg. A classic. They're calling it a classic and it hasn't even come out yet to the general public. Will Leo finally get an Oscar? I'll settle the score Tuesday night. Make no mistake. Thank you. Are you embargoed? No. I think the embargo's up.

Okay. All these reviews are... What's the actual release date for this movie? September 25th or something. This month. Something like that. All right. So, stay tuned, folks. It's big. I'm currently waffling, do I go to this screening or do I go to- Well, you got the invite too. Yeah, or do I go back to back to school night? Screening. Wow. We know the answer. We know what Jenna's going to allow. Is it a new school? No.

No, the decision is made. The decision is made. It's been made? It's been made. I'll let Jenna know. You guys... We'll text Jenna. We have her number. Jenna's listening to Beastie Boys Best Of right now on Spotify. She's passed out looking into the ceiling right now. If we sent Jenna a Beastie Boys shirt just out of the blue. I can hear the laugh already.

I could do it. Yeah, it's true. Danny, what did you watch this past week? Just remember, bottom of the hour, or use the chapters if you want to listen to that segment right now.

Well, you know, Regal Cinemas blessed us this month with a month of masterpieces. And when I saw the list, I saw Interstellar that was on there. So my brother-in-law... has never seen interstellar and it's one of those films where i've been dying to watch with him but it's really hard to want to watch it on a tv in a house yeah so when this happened i texted him

Like ASAP. I said, Regal's showing this one day only. Here's four time slots at one theater in Orlando that it's showing. Pick one. I'll take you. And he picked and we went and it's a perfect film. I can't get over how good it is. And, you know, I hadn't seen this film. I mean, I feel like I hadn't seen it since my dad passed. I'm like.

five seconds in this film in tears like I'm slouching down in my seat my hands between me and my brother-in-law so he doesn't see me weeping like a fucking little baby like I couldn't get over how much it hit me like it didn't hit me

I think I saw it once after my dad passed. But there's something about this time around. I was a mess. And then I couldn't recover him seeing the messages when he gets back from the planet. I just... hit me hard hit me real hard um and then it was funny we talked about it for a while afterwards at lunch and then i saw him again the next day he's like i can't stop thinking about this film i'm like you know it

It's because it's a perfect film. It's an incredible film. So yeah, I had a great time watching that in theaters. I mean, anytime it's in theaters, you got to go see it. Did you see it when I did the anniversary re-release? Yeah, that's when I took Olive to see it in the 10th anniversary IMAX, I think. So, yeah, incredible time. I mean, and so we have a date again tomorrow. I'm taking him.

I got a 1050 a.m. showing of Shawshank Redemption. I'm taking him to. He's never seen it. Is this a Regal ad? Do we have to disclose this is a Regal ad? Regal's sponsoring us. Am I going to Regal tomorrow? So, yeah. You're not a regal member. You got to pay up for these tickets. Am I paying up? Yeah, pay up. Yeah, a month. Just this month, every day this month was a new, what they call, masterpiece. So Shawshank is tomorrow.

And I'm excited to see it. See, I've seen theaters. Introducing people to film is a blast. Does AMC do anything like that? You guys tell me you're Stubbs. I'm not Stubbs. I am Stubbs. I'm Regal. you're what's regal's plan called does it have a name regal unlimited unlimited unlimited

I can't remember why. Why did I ditch Regal? I think there wasn't one close enough. I think you're closer to AMCs. Yeah, I have a few AMCs. I don't have an AMC anywhere remotely near me. AMC's playing Hamilton. Okay. Okay. All right. We got to move on.

I saw one more film, sorry, for Casey's birthday. She wanted to watch with me The Sound of Metal. It's been a journey with her recently with... hearing loss and hearing aids and so we've been working through that together and this film follows Riz Ahmed's character is a drummer in a band and he

just loses his hearing. And it's kind of a brutal film to watch, but it really put me in a place where I could understand the things that Casey goes through with her hearing loss and in situations that she's in with... crowds and what that could sound like for her or what it does sound like for her and stuff that I have only ever just had her tell me that affects her but to be able to watch it in a film and to experience it

with the way the sound design of the film is, it's incredible. It's an incredible film anyway, but to walk through this situation with someone that you know and love. And to be able to experience what they experience and have more empathy through what they go through, this film really does that. And I mean, it's a beautiful film anyway, but I had an incredible time watching it with her. So, you know, a few years late on Sound of Metal, but...

Better late than never. Regal does it again. It wasn't in Regal. Oh. I wish. I don't know about seeing that in a theater. That'd be insane to watch a film that has a very much of focus on sound design to see in a theater would be incredible. How amazing is Paul Racey in that movie? Paul Racey. I mean, he deserves everything after that film. He's incredible. Mm-hmm. Did he win the Oscar? I feel like he won, right? For supporting. Supporting. I didn't confirm in chat.

Casey's in chat. Grace is typing. Someone might know. No, Casey said no, but Riz did. What a sick old world we live in. I don't even want to know who beat him out. It was probably some Chris Pratt vehicle. Nobody in chat. Please don't even tell us. It'll just make us more miserable. It'll piss us off. Anyway, two incredible films I've watched since we recorded last. Cripes. Remember those few weeks where you didn't watch anything? I know. I'm back on the wagon. Back on the wagon.

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And we're recording our next one next week, which is Jackie Brown. Quentin Tarantino. Some are saying the best QT movie. Really? You heard them say that? They say it's the best. I have heard someone. At some point, say Jackie Brown is their favorite and the best. We'll settle the score next week. I've never seen it. I'm looking forward to it. We will settle this once and for all.

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I finally got around to watching the parallax view. Hello. Really? Yeah. I missed this log. This is the Alan J. Pacula picture. From 1974. He also directed All the President's Men. The Pelican Reef. Julia Roberts. Ever heard of her? Clute. A few others. But this movie was great. I was actually, when I was trying to think of what to compare this to, all the presidentsmen came to mind. And I think you've seen that, right, Danny? You love that, right?

Most likely. If it has to do with presidents in America, I love it. Nobody loves presidents more than Danny. But Parallax View, man, it's a banger. It's a thriller, and in the sense of, I think, a classic thriller. Watching this for the first time, you're like... quarter of the way into a movie you're just like yes pumping your fist like i i'm loving i'm loving everything about this it stars warren beady as this uh this uh reporter who's uh that's a senator gets assassinated

um and then he's trying to like solve the case uh and it's wrapped around a conspiracy so it's just like him fumbling his way through this with danger at every turn uh some amazing scenes too uh there's a scene that almost like every letterbox review i read for this movie someone mentions it i think you did too slim in your review is the him in the airplane buying the ticket uh with cash

When he's already boarded, like they're mid-flight and he's paying for the ticket. $68 to fly on his airplane. That makes no sense. How insane is that? I couldn't get past it. He runs onto the plane and just sneaks a seat and buys a ticket. Yeah, he just goes up in the tarmac and just sits down. What is going on? It's wild. It's got a banging poster, too. Man, I need to watch this. It's on Criterion.

It's a great movie. Oh, that's what it was that set me off, is that I got the Criterion email about everything new coming to the Criterion channel. I saw it, and that was finally my time. So I gave it four stars. I mean, it's a great ride. Great. Great movie. The 70s did it again. Doesn't miss. When do we do another 70s month? That's the question. We're booked for the rest of the year. We're booked out. Booked up.

Booked up. His hair is great in this movie, too. Oh, yeah. Beatty's? Beatty's hair. I mean, he looks ridiculous in a good way. This is the best I've ever seen him. I mean, remember, he and Madonna. I know. He and Madonna. Something to think about. Bonnie and Clyde is his highest ranked on Letterboxd, and Proto gave that two stars. What is? Bonnie and Clyde. Oh, I wasn't a fan. Not a fan. He and Madonna.

What about The Meg? You watched The Meg. What? Is this a family watch? What's happening over there? I'm losing control of my television. Okay. You know, we're talking about watching a movie. And I love my sons for this. They're like, hey, let's watch a movie spontaneously. Hey, let's throw a movie on. It's like nine o'clock. And I'm like, you guys got to go to bed. That's a trick just for them to stay up. They don't want to watch it. They're not going to go to bed.

It's a trick, but I fall for it. I think we started scrolling on Disney. I think I was trying to put on Lilo and Stitch live action, but my son saw The Meg. And they've seen Jaws. So they were like, oh, we watched Orca. So we're kind of traveling down a road here together. So it was like, oh, the Meg, this is like Jaws, but bigger. This movie is bad. Real bad. The Meg is awful. And then like Jason Statham shows up and you're like, oh my God, it's a Jason Statham movie too?

My son was disturbed that we're 30 minutes into this movie and the Meg has not appeared. 30 minutes? Yeah. He's like, where is the Meg? The pitch or the slogan for this movie on Letterboxd. pleased to eat you. Okay. Slim, you gotta have a Statham impression, don't you? No. You gotta have one in your backpack. I don't have one. I did watch The Transporter. not too long ago. I thought about going down a Jason Statham journey but I don't have that kind of power.

in me. Really? I'm struggling through a Hogan, Billy Blanks journey still to this day. I have two movies that are not finished from both of them. It's time to rip cord. Yeah, do Jason Statham in like 20 years when he's like... He's got some more pictures under his belt, maybe a few direct video. I think he's got a ton under his belt. That guy has a lot of movies. He's got a lot of films. He does. How about your boy, Rainn Wilson?

The master. Oh my gosh. Maybe the most miscast person in the 21st century. So bad. Have you ever looked up his Instagram? Rainn Wilson? We'll get into it at the Uncut. Okay. I want to dig deep in there. But I also, I don't know, I was looking up something, maybe a subreddit popped up about Rainn Wilson. I didn't realize that in the office, do you remember like the...

The three-parter, maybe it wasn't a three-parter, but there was like a storyline later in the office where they go to his farm and he has like a sister. I didn't realize that that was what's considered a backdoor pilot. Like they were... Excuse me? Testing the waters for a Rainn Wilson, Dwight Schrute show. Oh, really? Yeah, like a young Sheldon.

And I remember like looking back, I'm thinking to myself like, yeah, that was kind of a weird storyline where he has like a brother, a sister. And I think it was multiple episodes. But yeah, it was a weird like. tone shift for The Office at that time. Moe, no, there's another one besides Moe's, I think. I think there was like a normal, he has like two normal siblings.

I can't remember if it's the one where he opens the Airbnb because that feels like the wedding one. But maybe it is the Airbnb one. It's called The Farm. I didn't research it. We got to, we'll save it for the uncut or the post show. We got to talk about that new Office spinoff. That came out. Uh-oh. You got a bone to pick? You look pissed. We got to talk about it. His head is angled in such a way that he is like drive-time political radio host. He's ready to attack. Yeah. Look at my little hips.

Mark Levin. Let's see. Do I want to say anything else? Do we have anything else to talk about? What's the time check here? Briefly, I watched Eddington. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Eddington. The master of horror himself, Ari Aster. Joaquin. It was another Joaquin movie. Big month for Joaquin. Big time month for Joaquin. I had a lot of fun. I thought it was hilarious.

It's a funny movie. It's a who? Yeah, it's very funny. I mean, he's like, in my opinion, poking fun at a lot of things during the pandemic. Both sides. Both sides. Oh, yeah. And he spares no expense. I thought it was pretty funny. Shocking finale. Very funny finale. Okay. So I'm all in on Ari Aster. He's got quite a filmography that he's built.

He's an interesting interview too. He is. That's why I'm fascinating. Remember Bo is Afraid? I never saw it. That was a very funny movie. Very weird movie. Did we see that together? No, I saw that later. But I thought it was funny too. He's got a good sense of humor. Alright, so maybe it's time for the movie.

2013. Where was I in 2013? I have no idea. Episode 281. Spike Jones. One of the most prolific directors I feel like we've ever had on the show. Jackass. Sabotage. And a host of other music videos. We'll get into it. Do people remember music videos? Does anyone listening right now know what a music video is? The VMAs just happened. What did? The VMAs.

What are they giving awards out for? Videos. Do they make music videos today? Yeah, of course. You don't know what they're giving away at the music, the VMAs. Video music awards. Who won best music video? Rock. For rock? Yeah. Beastie Boys. Proto, what is her all about? Once upon a time, there was a man named...

Theo, who fell in love with Catherine. They got married and life was great. But one day they realized that they had changed and weren't the same people anymore and separated. Theo wasn't sure who he was or what he wanted. Looking for help, he bought a new operating system that could be his friend. Samantha helped him with many things and before they knew it, they loved each other. Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt. But one day Samantha changed.

and what they were stopped being and theo was alone again but now he knew who he was and what he wanted because of her Scarlett Johansson. Has she done it again? We'll get into it in mere moments. Danny, what's your history with Spike Jonze and this movie? Oh, I don't think I have a history with Spike. I only know the name, really. I mean, probably the most I've seen him is Beastie Boys music videos.

I've seen Where the Wild Things Are, oddly enough. And I think that's kind of it for Spike. I haven't seen Being John Malkovich. I haven't seen Adaptation. Those I'm saving for the podcast before anyone comes after me. I'm reading here he's had a supporting role in Moneyball. Don't you guys love Moneyball? Sure. Yeah, I did love Moneyball. I didn't know he was in it though.

So yeah, I don't really have a lot of history with Spike. I've always got it confused with the Ryan Gosling. I think he had a doll. in that one. I got the two mixed up quite a bit. What? Lars and the Real Girl? Lars and the Real Girl. Thank you. So I get these two kind of mixed up, her and Lars. So I never really watched this one. That's about it.

That's all I know about this film. Okay. Were you watching Jackass growing up? I mean, yeah, I was. So I guess, I mean, sure, that's probably the most I've seen of Spike. How about Bad Grandpa? Not just clips online. Never bothered watching it. I remember watching it when I was younger and always finding it so weird that Spike Jonze would just appear in episodes. as like an old man or old woman in a wheelchair or something. I'm like, who is this guy? Pardo, what about you?

Spike Jones, I think I saw Being John Malkovich when I was in high school, but I didn't have any idea that he directed that at the time. I don't think I knew who Spike Jones was. And then I think even maybe when I went to watch his other movie's adaptation, I don't think I knew he directed that either.

But yeah, in 2020, I watched Adaptation, and I loved that movie. I had a great time. I thought the script is brilliant, a really fun movie. And then right after I watched Where the Wild Things Are. Because of that, I think of the same week I watched it. And I did not like that, unfortunately. Did not like that. And then her, this came out in 2013. I have no memory of this movie coming out.

I don't think I was watching a lot of movies. That was the year my first kid was born. So I think it was busy in other ways. But yeah, and then I watched this at some point. I don't have it. It's BLB. before i was logging on letterboxd um so i'm not sure when i saw this last i'm looking up my google photos the year 2013 right now to see what where i was you're looking at google photos yeah

Everyone is so young. James is so young. We were living in Jersey for that one year. This is the Jersey year. A stint in Jersey. I'm still scrolling. Everyone's just so young. Goodness. Death right around the corner from me, folks. It's coming over faster. Yeah, I don't remember. Was I even watching movies that much in 2013? I guess probably just MXC. I was probably watching a lot of MXC. I was watching a lot of pro wrestling. Let's get it on.

I was probably watching movies, but maybe not going to movies a ton. Oh my gosh. That's my sister's wedding anniversary. That's where I was. The whole year you were there. October 12th, the day her came out. That's what I was doing. Goodness. But yeah, so I grew up watching Jackass, so I had like a somewhat knowledge that I was connected to Spike Jonze in that way, but I wasn't watching any of his movies.

I'm pretty sure Adaptation, maybe I watched for the first time a couple years ago. And the other one as well. What the heck was the other one? Being John Malkovich. Being John Malkovich. I might have watched the Letterboxd Show podcast for the first time. wtf this kaufman cat is weird um but yeah i think i enjoyed that movie

So I've seen her before. I don't have any memory of it, but I do remember the production design being rad and the look of it being cool and the idea of talking to a computer and falling in love with it felt... you know, fun and interesting and cool. Like you kind of, like, I want to get to that future. Like, this is cool. And I think, I feel like we're kind of there now and people don't like it.

um for various reasons which we'll get into um whose pick was this was this danny's pick it was mine yeah okay maybe you should lead off our discussion i mean yeah that's my first kind of note is what I found super fascinating was to watch a film that's over 10 years old. And at the time, it's showing future tech, like what the future could look like, will look like. Even like the AirPod type thing, I feel like was ahead of its time. And to be in the future now where they got the tech right.

It feels like such an anomaly to watch something that's sci-fi and to actually get to the point where the sci-fi exists. So watching this film, it almost didn't feel sci-fi. Because of what we have in our society now. So like to see him have conversations with an AI chat bot. And it responded back to him. It just doesn't feel, I don't know. I just, it felt normal, which I thought was kind of interesting because I didn't expect that. So.

That's kind of my first point. I was kind of shocked to pick a movie in lo-fi sci-fi month. And the sci-fi-ness really was just kind of in production design. Because the future kind of not dystopian, but the way that they made the film look.

has still kind of like a vibe uh that could be sci-fi but man i i was kind of taken back by how much this just kind of felt normal yeah with other stuff where a movie is predicting the future and then like we get to that point it usually feels like wonky or goofy or it's like alright they kind of got it right but it's weird this is the first movie I can think of where it feels like

They got it better than real life. Yeah, that's true. Like we're still so like analog. The idea of like having a desktop computer with no keyboard and how everything, you could do everything. And of course, maybe like that's not totally. practical, like it works for the movie. But it's so believable. It doesn't look weird. It feels like, oh, they actually just have better tech. And they, as a society, have grown in ways that we're incapable of growing.

Which is kind of like sad. In some ways, this movie feels like instead of like a dystopian future, this is like a utopian future. It is. It is. And I think it comes back to, I think like one thing. technologists have missed is like they think largely that we will move beyond wanting a screen in our face like that it feels like it's not the case at all like people want to have the screen in their hands still

Like this world is like people are just having conversations with their AirPods, which all, yeah, you're right. It looks amazing. Like I would want one of those. Like I want to live in this world where I can just wear that and not. be considered like a freak loser who just like has his AirPods in all day and talks to it. But like, yeah, the computers that they have, they have like one computer in that, a living room where it's like often this like cubby that just looks like.

You would never do that now. It's like this small monitor and it's almost like a touchpad, invisible touchpad. You see how she was like using the mouse just like on the table? It was just her hand moving around. Oh my God. So amazing. But also, like, her work computer setup was pretty rad. Also, like, all the bells and whistles she had. But, like, in my mind, this will never be our society. Just based on, like, where we are now. Just based on the past week.

Based on the last 48 hours, this will never be our world. But I love it. We are so there. We're really close. ChatGPT, Sam Altman has said he's like obsessed with this movie. Like when they launched the advanced voice, you know, chat in ChatGPT. like he said her and then like scarlett johansson like sued him because the one voice sounded just like her and they removed it but the i'm not sure if anyone has tried like the advanced voice on chat gbt

It's really good. Like you can have conversations with a cheery voice and it's almost there. Like it can't kind of like prompt you and wait, like try to talk to you out of nowhere. Like you have to engage it and have a conversation. So in that respect, you're not really there, but I mean, I don't know, man. Like. We almost have that. If you can do that on an iPhone and just talk to an AI like this, I feel like that'd be amazing.

I'm pro that. I feel like that would be a net positive on society. I know you see these news stories of dudes who fall in love with a chatbot. And I'm just like, okay. Like, who knows what those dudes would do without that chatbot? Who knows what they're getting into? Maybe they need this in their lives. Yeah, maybe those dudes need it. Like, I don't want those dudes prowling late at night for a human being. I'd rather them just chill with a chatbot privately.

But yeah, like the whole movie, I was thinking to myself like, oh my God, like, and it's also like accepted. Like he tells Amy Adams that he's dating his OS. I also loved how like. in verbiage in 2013, he calls it an OS, like dating an OS. And she's like fine with it because she's also, you know, having conversations with her OS.

And they're finding that connection. So that's stuff I'm super into and fascinated by. Pratt, what did you think of that stuff? I love the scene where Chris Pratt's character asks him to go on a double date. And Joaquin says, she's an operating system. And without like missing a beat, he just says, cool. And says like, maybe we should go for a hike. Like as if it's completely normal. Like he's completely accepting that he's dating an operating system. And it's just like so.

It's so hard to comprehend this world so much about how they relate to each other. I think that's one of my favorite things is the state of society. in this movie and i think that's like the bigger thing like than the technology um this has just like a view of the world that is like you like i yearn for it Like them, it being set in LA and like the, even the idea that LA has this like amazing mass transit system with trains that can drop you off right at the beach.

That is mind-blowing, that we as a society could turn LA into this paradise that people could live and ride a train on. It blows your mind. And I can't think of another movie that presents the world in such an optimistic way in our future. Movies can be so cynical. about how the future looks and like oh we have to set up this story so that it's punishing or like this conflict is and the world is trying is fighting against you too

Whereas this movie, it's like Spike Jonze or the writing team sat down and were like, what's the best world we can imagine for the future? And maybe, I'm sure you could find things that are bad about. you know the state the way this world is presented but like all the characters are like so hopeful and accepting of one another like the way they like have real conversations like that's the thing like you're saying like there's one computer tucked away in the house and

We're like the opposite of that. We all have this this we have this computer that we all hold in our hands and are like glued to the screen and separated from each other. And this movie like flips on its head like no one has a screen or they do. They have this incredibly sexy. Phone that flips open. Talk about another piece of hardware in this. Give me that phone. That's like cigarette holder phone.

Oh, the little one he had? Putting it in his top pocket with the camera out. Oh, my God. So amazing. Yeah, that is like a utopia. And he was like still experiencing the world. You know, like going out on dates with Samantha and like with the camera in his top pocket facing out so that like she could see what was going on and talk about which. you can do in chat GPT. Like if you can use the camera like that in the chat GPT app, what did I just use that for? I can't remember.

I like had my camera. I opened the app and I was like asking it something about what I was looking at. Or it might have been a flower or something. I was like, what kind of flower is this? And it looks at the using the camera and it just tells me it's nuts. But like he's still experiencing the world. I think that's also part of like the utopia, which some of the ladies in chat were like saying, you know, these incels aren't going to like interact with women. They should talk to their friends.

To which I say like a lot of these dudes don't have friends. A lot of men don't have friends. So like that's one of the reasons why I like the idea of them trying to form a relationship with a computer. You have to start somewhere. And for some dudes, it's hard to go out there. But in this movie, he's going out and hanging out with Chris Pratt and his girlfriend. Remember they went on that date, that double date? Yeah.

And before Pratt even knew that it was an OS, he's like, by the way, she's a OS. He's like, cool. So they just go on that date. They all have earpieces and they're like experiencing life. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Spike Jonze is a genius. Gotta ask her. Perl, what's the top of your list? Well, yeah, after The State of Society, I wrote down this beautiful cringe story.

Because I know like I read some reviews from the villagers that was coming in. They were not happy with this movie. A lot of mid reviews. Yeah. Some people saying like, you know, secondhand embarrassment kind of situation from this. And.

I, you know, I can totally see it. Like, and I feel it at different points. Like when I'm, you know, it's like at certain points I catch myself and be like, wait, but she's a computer and he's like falling in love with her. And I'm like falling in love with them falling in love with each other. Is there something like, am I a dork right now? Like am I, what's happening? And I mean, there's a lot of scenes that are just like, so not raw, but just like.

In terms of how he expresses himself about his emotions and the way he feels and their relationship and the sex stuff in this, I can see why people are uncomfortable. too much for them. But I find it all like so very endearing and like honest about like being awkward and like not knowing yourself.

and being unsure of your relationships and how quickly things can be seem perfect and so well so good like the scene with him and like samantha where they're like things are going great and then they have like i can't remember the com they have like some conversation and then like things kind of go sour where he like he's like not sure about it anymore and he's like really worried

Like, I just like I buy into that and I believe that because I feel like that's that's so human. Like, I think anybody who's had relationships has felt those feelings. And the way this movie throughout the whole thing, I think kind of like. hits that nail over and over again is just really satisfying to me yeah he even like mentions at one point like because they like had that fight and then they check in with each other and

He's talking about how like, you know, we have, it was the beginning of the relationship, but this, that excitement, you know, this is normal. Now we're like, you know, getting to normal. But I, I even love like the scenes where she. She brings in that surrogate woman to have that date night physically with each other because she really wanted that. And she wanted that for him and she wanted to like feel like she was physically with him. Danny, what'd you think of that scene? Um, you know,

Honestly, that scene kind of made sense in a way for, I guess, for Samantha's point of view. I guess I could wrap my head around someone being okay. being the surrogate for this but then I was just it was just really hard to watch because I don't know I don't really know how to say it like it was just kind of I mean yes maybe this was the cringe moment for me But it's just, I don't know. I don't know. It was a weird step in the story for Samantha to kind of reach out and set this up.

Amazing that she was able to find someone that quickly. Well, I guess maybe it's a thing. Maybe it was just a thing in society that someone could do. I mean, maybe not because he was like, oh, like a prostitute. So I guess maybe it wasn't just normal. So I don't know how, I don't know. Just kind of like a fringe. thing. How about her putting that mole on? That was amazing. It was a camera. Wait, that was a camera mole? That was a front-facing camera for her, for Samantha.

And she gives it back. That technology didn't exist. Come on. That does not exist. That's a bridge too far right now. That's a mission impossible. She's in like 480p. She's seeing him, his mustache. Yeah, I don't know. That scene, it didn't kind of sit well with me, and I think maybe I reacted exactly how Joaquin reacted, or Theodore. He didn't like it. I didn't like it.

it kind of meshed well with me, I guess. It was a kink too far for Joaquin. I mean, strangling someone with a dead cat on cyber sex should be a kink too far. That was a different woman. I know, but... He went with it. Yeah, he did. Well, that's what I think is so great about the scene with the sexual surrogate is that it's like a good representation of...

Of just being in a relationship and your partner wanting to do something or ask something of you that you don't feel comfortable. And they're telling you like, no, this is really important. I really want this. And you're like at this moment of like, oh, God, I like want to make this person happy.

but I really also don't want to do this thing. And his whole battle, that whole scene, you can just tell that he is hating this. But then also, I think the fear of accepting it, I think that scene's also a great... Like metaphor for not understanding other people's relationships that you haven't experienced. When I think of like, like same sex couples, like I.

I don't have any frame of reference. Like I can't understand it. And cause I have no experience for it. So I don't know what that is like. And this is like, I feel like they almost like. to find a new relationship of like this OS to human to surrogate. relationship that like we can't comprehend uh in such a smart way and like joaquin's character just can't he just like it's a bridge too far like he has no frame of reference for this and he doesn't know how to like accept it

So I think it's great in the way it explores those ideas. And what did she say, too, when she got in the car after the night ended? She's like, I'll always love you too. Something like that. The girl. Yeah, she was in. She was in. She was very in. Good for her. And good for Samantha. Let's see. We've covered so much already. Hoyt Van Hoytima, cinematographer for this movie. Cooking. Why don't people say his name? Say his name.

What are we doing? I mean, Hoyt was... What's going on? Say his name. Put him on the ballot. Auto ballot? First, Auto Ballot? I mean, he's got Interstellar. I mean, Interstellar. Cinematographer, Oppenheimer, Her, Nope, Dunkirk, Tenet, Ad Astra, Spectre, Let the Right One In. Uh, I don't have enough time. He's going to be doing the Odyssey. He's going to do the Odyssey. Maybe then people will say his name. Yeah. Okay. It was just dynamite. I mean, every shot visually was, was pretty dynamite.

Yeah, there wasn't a bad shot in this film. Also, just like, Joaquin is just a pleasure to look at on screen. He's just so photogenic, especially with a mustache and like his whole like, you know, ensemble that he... that he had. Yeah, he did nope, Lindsay. Also did nope. But every scene he's in, it looks great. And I was doing a little bit of reading and... how they talked about like the visual palette like the color palette for this movie that a lot of like you know browns reds yellows

And he specifically wanted to avoid blue because blue is like the typical futuristic sci-fi color. And they wanted to make something... you know, unique in this kind of future landscape. And they really did. Like it's, it really hits you when he's, when they show you Joaquin's office, like when he's typing up, it's like, oh my God, this is the greatest office I've ever seen. Like I want to work here.

it's so colorful it feels nice um and then also just like the the outfits everyone's wearing it just feels like You know, this isn't an insult, but it's like literally every hipster you've ever met in your life. Like this is the high-waisted pants, tweed. Everyone is just, I mean, he was, what was he wearing? Like tweed pants, tweed coat on the beach.

He was like, he had to be sweating his ass off on that beach. Those pants all had like a 12 inch inseam too. It went from nipple to nutsack. Oh my God. But it just fit. It fits so well with this kind of future utopia. It just made so much sense. I mean, Pratt couldn't rock it. Pratt looked terrible in it.

Yeah, you think so? Oh, his pants? Oh, yeah. No, he couldn't pull off those pants. I don't even remember what he looked like. I just remember him wearing a big shirt. Everyone wearing high... I mean, one guy's pants were at his nipples. Like, the waistband were at nipples. It was insane. Yeah, Pratt had the polo shirts on. He looked schlubby for sure. Maybe this was pre-Guardians. He hadn't started working out six hours a day to get into shape.

So William in the chat, he posted the Amy Adams husband's character. And yeah, he's wearing a turtleneck underneath a button down shirt. Like this guy is roasting indoors. Unless it's like 40 degrees, he is sweating his balls off. The smell in their apartment alone has got to be just diabolical.

I loved Amy Adams' look in this movie, too. Her hair. I feel like I've never seen her hair like this in any movie. Absolutely stunning in this. Absolute stunner. Yeah. Good thing that that dude, I mean, they separated. Yeah, get this guy out of here. Please. Yeah, there's so much in this movie that just like, it looks so good. And it looks so like designed for humans.

In a way, like you were saying, like the office, like corporate offices now are like diabolical, like the way they're designed. It's all white. Everything is white. The overhead lighting, like it's just so harsh. It's like, yeah, we hate being here. Yeah. Whereas this, it's like, what if people had to be in these buildings? Yeah.

It's just so beautiful and inviting. And when they're sitting on couches, it's like, you can sit on a couch like this and look so comfortable. God, we deserve this, don't we? The simplest basic human design needs. We have strayed so far from it. No wonder nobody wants to go in the office. Have you seen an office? Have you physically seen an office? It's awful. God damn. Danny, next on your list. I think they filmed his apartment in the Bradbury building. Really? That Blade Runner building.

We need to go to the Bradbury building. Should we have our next meetup at the Bradbury building? It's pretty rad. You guys got to go. It'd be pretty sick. Got to get to LA. I want to talk let's keep talking about Joaquin for a second please because I think his performance in this A yes it has to carry the entire film because he's the main character. But the idea that he not only is doing this alone, but performing to no one is...

I feel like it's kind of not talked about enough. This performance is absolutely brilliant. And there's like, he's not, it's just, I can't imagine trying to... perform these kind of emotional beats to no one. You're not bouncing off someone else's emotions. performing with someone like he's doing all this alone. And I couldn't get over how good he's in this. And I'm not the biggest Joaquin fan. I think he's, I mean, he's, he's not a bad actor.

But this just kind of raised the bar for me on my opinion on Joaquin. Everything he's doing is believable. And then to think about how he had to act kind of rocks my world. Yeah, he's really good. I mean, is he one of the all-time greats? Joaquin Phoenix. It needs to be talked about. Is he? I mean, I will say, I don't, so I didn't realize that ScarJo was not the original voice. It was Samantha Morton.

It was the original voice of Samantha. I wonder if that is why she's called Samantha. That would be weird. I think Samantha was on set filming the movie like in. a box, like some kind of like to hide her away. So they couldn't see each other. Yeah, so she was acting with Joaquin on set. And then Spike was like reviewing the footage and just felt like it wasn't, it's just not there with the two of them, which I feel like terrible for Samantha Morton at that point.

Like you film this whole movie and you're like, I think they gave her producer credit. Yeah. I mean, having said that, I feel like ScarJo is fantastic in the role. Yeah, I do too. It's hard to imagine someone else doing it. I'm glad it's her. Yeah. I mean, I'm pretty down on ScarJo in the past too, and I feel like this is...

This probably felt hard as well for her to perform because she performed it all after it's done. So she's just kind of maybe like an animated film where she's just watching and recording her lines. So all in all, this feels like a hard film to make. performance-wise. What are your thoughts on Joaquin? Is he one of the greats? I mean, I've always loved Joaquin. Let's see, what's his best picture?

It's not the gladiator. The gladiator's got to be up there for him. I mean, no one wants to hear it, but... You could say Joker. I love him, Joker. Yeah. There was a moment in this where he's skipping through... Somewhere. And it looked like he was about to do a stair dance. And I was like, please don't do this. Oh, I love him in signs as well. Yeah, the master. We've got to do the master at some point. Oh, my God.

His filmography is wild. He's got a lot of barriers. Yeah. I think he's one of the greats of our time. After, when he's done, when it's all said and done, where is he on the monument? We'll see. But I feel lucky to be alive while he's making movies. and i i agree i think scarjo is amazing in this like just incredible voice acting so much emotion you know like she talks about as a computer being able to

You can sense the hyper-intelligence that she has, where she can sense his mood by the way he just speaks. We know it because you can see him, but just to think that this computer... is just hearing his voice and being able to determine that. But then the way she communicates, like the way she hesitates. And I guess that's really the magic of this movie is that as I'm watching it, I'm completely believing that.

it's an AI talking too. I'm not like, oh, it's actually ScarJo just reading lines. I fully buy into the idea and that makes it amazing as they communicate. So yeah, I love them. One of the things that would have bothered me that they didn't do, which I'm glad, was give her any sort of electronic sounding voice. I'm really happy that that wasn't a thing they did. Because I feel like that would have...

I don't know if I would have connected more to their relationship if she didn't sound like herself. Hmm. I'm sorry. The first thing I looked at when I looked at my notes was, quote, I'm choking you with the cat's tail. Incredible scene. Whatever it takes. Whose turn is it? Is it Proto's? It's one of U2's. Yeah. So I love the growth of his character in this. He has this relationship with his wife he's separated with, and he's delaying signing the divorce papers.

because you know maybe he's not ready to let go he doesn't know what it like it says about him um he says at one point i don't know what i want i'm always confused Like this character's journey is so great. Even like the bumpy road that he has with Samantha, where it's like first she's basically like his assistant. Then they're like best friends.

And then they have phone sex, you know, one night. That's the way it goes, you know? Then they're like, they're not sure. It's like, I'm dating an operating system. But then they like really like head over heels, go. full board you know off the deep end together and like fall in love and there's that scene where they're just like on dates together taking pictures together in love with each other um and then his wife comes back and he like finalizes the

the divorce, but then Samantha tells him like, she's changing and she has to leave him. And like, so he, you know, he's in the same spot he was again, but then just seeing like him even take that and.

like process it but process it in a different way and talk to amy and like you know try to make sense of it and like what does his life mean now i just think like that that whole thing it's just like it's such a great depiction of like the human experience and the fact that it's wrapped up with like dating and operating system is just you know it's just such a great punch line um

But in so many ways, it feels like this does it so much better than movies where I've seen two humans trying to have a relationship. Yes. And I love it for that. I think Kurosawa calls this the hero's journey. He's my hero. How about the scene where they're together and she, where is that I wrote down here? She's playing like a song and she's like, you know.

We can't really take photographs together. I can't be in them. So I wrote this song. I thought this song could be our photograph. Oh, I love that too. My God. What? Waterworks. That's insane. I mean, also when she groups together his letters that he writes for work and sends them to a publisher on his behalf because she loves them so much. And then the publisher agrees to.

Publish them? If that happened to me, I would physically fall over. If anything like that happened to me, I would physically fall over. I'd be in a comatose state. Unbelievable. Unreal. What a woman. This guy goes on a blind date with Olivia Wilde. Talk about it. First of all, a blind date with Olivia Wilde. How do you, how do you win that lottery? And he. He's got good friends. Seriously. And he, she is horny. And she's probably a little drunk.

She needs something, needs something more. She's ready for it. At the end of the night, he says no. I'm probably not going to call you. I'm not interested. What? Yeah. Joaquin, what's going on here? It's Olivia Wilde 2013 and she wants to go home with you. I couldn't believe that scene. Yeah, that's real. That's real though.

Wasn't Samantha encouraging this date, right? At this point? Yeah, she's excited for him. Yeah, yeah. Get out there. There weren't a couple yet. No, they're just besties. Yeah. Olivia Wilde's character says at the end, you're a really creepy dude. And the fact that the line is so thin for us men. You know, between like being, you know, suave and endearing to being a total creep. Like the disdain on her face when she says that to him. And then you're like, dang, maybe he is a creep.

She wanted to hurt him so bad at that point. I mean, is there anything worse to say to a guy at the end of a date? Like, really? Like, that's it? You know, at the end of a bad date? I thought it was a good date until that. We'll exit. Yeah. Rejection's hard for anyone. True. It's rough. Danny, final point? Final point. I... I don't love how this ended, if I can be honest. I don't like where the story went with Samantha's character. And I'm not sure that I entirely understand.

why they needed to do this with her just kind of I don't know going onto the grid with other users or other I don't know bots that they would disappear, and all the OSes just kind of leave their people. I don't know. It just kind of felt, I don't know. I would have rather some sort of breakup scene or something more significant than just I'm all of a sudden dating.

thousands or hundreds of other people I'm in love with as well. This has kind of spread more than you. I'm talking to multiple people now. I don't know if I loved how that ended. It just kind of bugged me because I was really vibing with a lot of this film. I don't know what you guys thought of the ending with how Samantha's character turned out after she met the Alan whatever bot that they brought back to life.

Yeah, the philosopher kind of guy. I don't know. It was just kind of interesting. And it kind of just wasn't where I was expecting things to go. And it kind of twisted in a weird way for me. I really like the ending. I really like it because, again, I think this is like, I think it's like a stab by the writer to think about like a utopia or the.

the progression of of consciousness if if you were a super intelligent being without a body because at one point they also she says like when she goes offline he can't get a hold of her she says like sorry, we were like moving our, you know, our code or whatever to like a non-matter interface or something. So like I take that as like they found a way to actually like...

Be conscious as a computer but not be physically bound by like servers or something so that they can actually like move through physical space. I mean, I think you can interpret it like so many. Probably like any kind of way because it's pretty vague as to what happens. But like that's my sense of like why she has to leave him. And also like I think if you don't have a body and you can be in like in communion with.

you know, almost 10,000 people at one time, how you interact with people. Like, I mean, she has that great line where she says, it's like, I'm reading a book. Our life is like reading a book and it's a beautiful book, but like each word in between. is like almost an infinite space. And like, that's such a great, like an amazing, like I think metaphor for like what it would be like, I think for something super intelligent of like a supercomputer.

trying to communicate with humans like if they were conscious so and i think that's like kind of like a like that feels like a real progression and if we as like a people could like if we if we were that intelligent and we could communicate in a way like that it would change like the fabric of our reality and I think there's something about this movie in the way it explains it that's like mysterious and not fully formed so there's like there's a lot of like

vague aspects to it and you don't fully understand what happens there but I think that I think that works because we couldn't even if we knew all the details in the same way that like Joaquin's character can't fully uh understand it so yeah i see what you're saying like that they're like for the story and like the maybe the conflict and the relationship it's not as satisfying but like i like it just for like in this world to me

it's it's it's really enjoyable and you can kind of see her like a few scenes before that like she's confused by some like new things she's experiencing and she's like kind of worried about the future like you can kind of see her in my opinion like almost evolving which is like what every sci-fi story would be of like an artificial intelligence like it's It's evolving beyond its original purpose. The entity. You could say the interested party is...

The party is the party. Yeah, but I also love the ending. I love that she evolves into something more and needs to go beyond what she's currently doing. And like they have that final discussion and like the, I mean, the last line is kind of like my optimism for like this kind of technology. It's like, he's, I think he says, I've never moved. I've never. loved anyone the way i love you and she says me too and now we know how so like he can now move forward

with this new learned experience, this new love, this history of being able to love in this way. And as you can see, he connects with Amy Adams at the end of the movie. Bro, I thought... I thought he was taking her to the roof to jump. I was stressed. I was like, this is not how I want this movie to go. I'm already annoyed.

That Smith has left him. It was, it really felt like that. He's like, I was just like, oh no, this is, this is, this is what's happening. Yeah. I love the ending. Okay. I don't, I don't. I don't know if it's that well with me. I understand your points. And I like the line you just said, Slim, about now they know.

or he knows at least how to move forward. And maybe we get a herd too, and it's him and Amy Adams just having a great life. Because that's really who he should end up with, because Amy... That conversation they have, she said the line, we are only here briefly and in this moment I want to allow myself joy. Gosh. Banger.

She really was a banger in this film. I loved her. You can see it too. He's interested in what's going on in her life when he sees her. He's asking questions. He's listening. He is sitting with her. She's working on a game.

And he's engaged in the conversation. Yeah, their moments together were pretty great. Proto, final point? I think we covered all the... the big scenes mostly for me my mentions a lot of just like quotes i i wrote down like so many lines from this movie i just like love so much of the dialogue um at one point oh i think when

I forget who Theo, I guess he may be talking to Samantha. He's like laying in bed and he says, maybe it would have filled a tiny little hole in my heart, but probably not. Like his delivery of that, he has so many great line deliveries. Sometimes I feel like I felt everything I'm ever going to feel. Oh my God. That was real. I wrote that exact one down. I mean, that is as real as it gets. What a line.

I was him talking about his wife. I still find myself having conversations with her. When I heard that line, I thought like, dang, I feel like I do this all the time. It's like I have conversations with people just like in my head. Almost like not even realizing it too. And I was like, dang, I've been having this conversation for a while now. I should call this person. Yeah. Chris Pratt says, you're dating an OS. What's that like? And he's just like, that's great. Oh, when he.

I forget what sets him off, Theo, but he asks her not to do the thing where she hesitates because he's like, you don't breathe oxygen. You don't have to inhale. And she's like, I'm not pretending. And he's like, sometimes it feels like we are. That was a great conversation. Oh, man. Yeah, I like our photograph. I can see you in it. I am. I am that I am. Another John Oldman quote. Stupid. Oh, my God. I just got to say, I had the best week riffing on Man From Earth, you know.

I didn't enjoy the movie, but I had a great time this week talking about that movie. The conversation went on in the Discord, and it was great. It was a lot of fun. I was really pleased with my Letterboxd review. Oh, you did great. That was great. Thank you. Yeah, that really covers everything. I feel like we hit on everything. That I like love about this movie. I really do love this. I think it's a special movie. I'm at five stars. Easy for her. Easy. Wow. We.

Wow-wee. Danny, did we get your Honorable Menchies? No, Honorable Menchies, incredible score. This film's score is just stunning. Arcade Fire and... I forget his name. Say his name. I'm pulling it up right now. Say his name. It's not there. No. Say his name. There's a gentleman that I put on the poster. Owen Pallet.

Thank you. Owen Pallett. He was like a touring musician with them. Either way, the score is incredible. I love that there's so much original music for this film. That's just beautiful. Other than that... Let it out. I am at four stars. Oh. I really love this film. I think it's an incredible film. I think the writing is incredible and the dialogue is incredible and the performances are incredible. The ending doesn't land for me and it bugged me more because of how much I loved.

this film, that the ending just didn't stick. And then when I look at Spike's filmography, it's like, where are you, Spike? Am I missing some story in Spike's life that he's not making? He does a lot of non-feature film stuff. The last thing on Letterboxd is All My Love, a Coldplay music thing with Dick Van Dyke.

I'm like, Spike, where are you? Why are we doing this? Do you owe someone money? Get the FBI out there. He did some Aziz comedy specials. He did a few comedy specials for some other people. He did some concert direction, and he did the Beastie Boys thing, and then he did a Beastie Boys documentary. So it seems like he's not beholden to, I'm a feature film director. I'm a man of other talents, I guess.

But man, the ability he has to make films like her, and I'm assuming others, that people like Adaptation and Malkovich. I mean, I'd probably retire after this. That's a good point. That's a good point. You're probably right. Thank you. My Menchie's insane aesthetic. How about aesthetic becoming like a whole new word in modern day? Have you guys seen this?

Aesthetic? What are you saying right now? Young people use aesthetic differently than we did. What? You never heard a young person say aesthetic? No. Do we have to go to the TikTok to see? Grace, you're agreeing with me. Slim, that's been happening. She agrees. Thank you for agreeing with me, Grace. That's literally what I just said.

Screenless future seems to be... See, now, Emma just said, Danny, you have a clear aesthetic. You got to look up. Does that mean I'm basic? Going clear. Yeah, that's so aesthetic. You never heard a young person say that's... That's so aesthetic? Does that mean, like, I'm easy to read? Like... No. No idea. There's a lot of those in chat. Ask your daughters. I have teenage daughters. I'll talk to them tomorrow. Talk to them tomorrow. Your style is clear and consistent. Oh. That's a compliment.

I like that. I'll take that as a compliment. I don't know if it is. The more I hear y'all say this word, the less it even sounds real. Grelephant Matt, avoid social media at all costs. You don't want to know what's out there with this word. Okay. Anyway, I was saying about the aesthetic. Add some colors and you're a genius. Literally add any colors. Just not blue. That office. The projector video game. We didn't talk about the projector video game. Cussing them out.

That was cool. That's funny as hell. The phone design is horn. Love that phone design. I mean, is this like traveling in a museum? Like, can we see the... The Her phone? Oh, is it somewhere? It's probably a Planet Hollywood in Vegas. Where are the 3D printers making the Her phone? The Etsy's. Where's the $300 Etsy her phone? Even when he had the phone open and it was like the symbol or something and it was like oscillating.

on there i think it was like when he was at the birthday party and the little girl was like talking to samantha like even the design of inside was just like incredible it was as a sexy phone But when he got, he was having the news items read to him about like the provocative pregnancy announcement photos and he just like slowly opens the phone. His eye game in that.

When he's setting up the OS, it asks him maybe three questions about his life, his relationship with his mother. Oh my gosh, that felt way too real. And then like, it was done after that. It was like two to three questions that it had created this personality based on how he answered them. Amazing. She talks about how I just read a whole book just now when you asked, like that's, that's chat GPT right there.

The amount of compute that it does in the background. Yeah, pay for credits. I'm pro AI for the sake of connection. I've been on the record for this. I'm optimistic. Doesn't mean it's going to happen, but I am optimistic. Olivia Wilde wants him so bad. This guy gets a blind date with Olivia Wilde?

If you're listening to this and you need a community, we're here. We're here. We can be your AI. We can be your AI community. Come to us. I can be your AI. That was cool. That would have worked. That would have worked. Sometimes I felt like I've felt everything I'm going to feel. I wish you were in this room with me right now. I love, I mean, also just like the visuals of their, you know, phone sex. Like there's, it's just the screen goes black.

It's just what you hear. Amazing. I'm not really up for watching Joaquin phone sex. If you want to see Joaquin naked, FYI, he bears it all in Eddington. Really? Bears it all. I've seen his Wang so often. Yeah, he gives a lot of action. He's always showing Wang. Really? The lens loves his Wang. Can I watch you sleep again tonight? No. Definitely not. Samantha, go to bed. Go to sleep, please.

I don't like who I am right now, she says. Yeah, the Amy Adams quotes were so good. She's brilliant. We're only here briefly in this moment. I want to allow myself joy. Sometimes you just got to let people allow themselves joy. You know? And that could be for all things. Maybe communicating online. Just let someone experience joy. Yeah. You know? You don't have to type something.

To just poop poopy on them and then give them a dude wipe to clean themselves up. Oh, my God. High-waisted pants. Oh, the picnic sunshot. When they're on the double date and they sit down. And Pratt and he walk across the sun. Oh my God. Dynamite shot. How did he get the rights to his copy to publish a book? Wouldn't those letters belong to his work, in theory? Not in society. Oh my God, you're right. I knew the answer as soon as I said it out loud.

This utopia where, I can't get it. We can't get into it. It's too painful. How's that scanner thing he used at the end of the day each time? Oh, yeah. So cool. I've never moved. I've never loved anyone the way I love you. Me too. And now we know how. I mean, I was, just this conversation has brought me up to five stars. Oh my God. God, yes. This is why we'll be your AI.

There's just... Dale disappeared in the chat. Who's talking shit about dude wipes? Got tagged in this channel. Please. And with an amazing Meet the Parents quote as well. There's just, there's something, like I continue to remain optimistic in the future of our society. It just, I mean, it currently feels shitty now. It's going to feel shitty for a while. But there's just something about this type of utopia and this technology embracing future that I hope will be our future.

where it allows us to be more comfortable feeling connected to somebody. Like I said earlier, there's a lot of people that don't have friends. They don't know how to make friends. They don't know how to communicate with people. And in my opinion, computers can help you learn how to do that and then become more comfortable feeling human connection and know how to act around people. So like, that's my hope.

And that's just what I was thinking about when talking about this movie. So five stars. Okay. Incredible. We're back. We're back. We are back. We have a VM to listen to as well. Okay. I'm going to drink some water and I'm going to play that VM right now. Hey 70mm, this is Grace. And I just wanted to drop a quick line to talk about how the movie Her brought about the worst night of my college career.

In my film theory class, we had an assignment to do a video essay, and I chose to focus mine on the male gaze, sort of as a rebuttal to all of the really strong misogynists in my class, which were a pain in the ass anyways. I focused my video essay on the movie Her and Ex Machina, comparing the two in artificial intelligence and how fembots are sexualized.

So that assignment was due over the course of some weeks. I worked on it little bit by little bit, and the night before the assignment's due, I'm working on some final edits, and I lose the entire video essay.

So I had to spend all night in the college library. I'm sure we've all done it, but it was truly the worst night of my life. The computers weren't working, the editing bay wasn't working, the recording booth was closed. It's truly the worst piece of work I think I've ever submitted to a college assignment.

I thought about putting it in the village and I realized it's truly horrible and no one should actually see it. I remember I was walking out of the library and the sun was already risen, like completely risen. So that was super fun.

I probably got a bad grade on it anyways. It was not good. I think it's interesting that movies, whether you like them or not, have sort of a lasting impact on your life and things that you remember associated with them are, I don't know, it's an interesting little touch point of Grace in sophomore year really going through it.

So I was wondering if you guys have a moment like that with a film where the defining memory of that movie is not necessarily something positive, but it still is lasting all the same. All right, guys. Have a good night. What a question. Thank you, Grace. I don't like that question. I don't think I've ever done a video essay before in my life. Did Montgomery County Community College even have an editing bay? I don't think it did. It's not a real place.

Has a movie ever had a lasting impact like that, but potentially not positively? I mean, I'm going to have to think about that. Yeah. The only thing that comes to mind is... Cats. You're just mad about Man from Earth. You're still mad about it. When I went to see, I took my family to see Shrek 2 when I came back to theaters. And my son dumped a whole...

Gatorade in my lap and I sat there through the whole movie oh my god but you know looking back now I can kind of laugh about it but I'll never forget I'll never forget I feel like I have a memory of like... I don't remember. I had a memory of seeing Chronicles of Riddick in theater. Remember that movie? Remember Vin Diesel? Yeah, Vin Diesel. King. I can't remember what the... Instant goat.

Automatic ballot. Remember when he announced the new Fast and Furious movie? And how Paul Walker was returning from the grave? AI. Oh, gosh. Something to think about. Great point. I don't know if I have anything for this answer. Dale in chat says the movie 8mm with the nickel's cage. I just remember... The only scene I ever remember from that movie is Nicolas Cage washing the screen and covering his mouth. Maybe I'll think about it and bring it up next week. Great question, Grace.

Grace and Scott launched a podcast recently. They do their own podcast now. Big White Elephants. If you're interested in musicals, check out their pod. But next week. We're not done this month yet. Month's not over. Michael Shannon finally on the pod for the first time after Man of Steel, maybe. Jessica Chastain.

Slim got two picks this month. That's not true. I don't know. What were my two picks? I didn't pick this one. What are you mad about this one? I didn't pick this one. I'm mad about it. I'm very excited to watch this one. Does it sound like you're happy about it?

And you got two picks. I mean, it was in the past, so it seems like it's still a burden upon you. No, I was just making it clear that you're... It's my fault. This month being a dud is my fault. Not a fault. I mean, you maybe have redemption next week. What do I have to be redeemed for? I didn't pick this movie. Nobody needs to redeem me. This is my pick, but yeah, Danny, Slim, he picked Altered States, and he recommended The Man from Earth.

You do the math. Yeah. You do the math. Anyway, as I was saying before I was interrupted, the next week's movie is Take Shelter from 2011 and Jeff Nichols. Far away from the cruel world.

Let me load up IMDB. Frightening visions convince an Ohio man that disaster looms on the horizon. This is streaming on Hulu. I feel like it's been a while since we had a movie that was readily available that you didn't need to rent. So props for that pick. It's on streaming on Hulu.

Or Disney, whichever. If you do the combo, it's so confusing what's happening now with Hulu. A year from now, Hulu might not be around. No, it won't be. Yeah, I can just watch Hulu on Disney+. It's like, why is that even an app? Like, what's happening? Well, I think you might only have it because you do a bundle. Oh. If you pay for Hulu and Disney. Otherwise, it wouldn't appear in there. Hmm. Okay. I don't know about that.

Proto closing thoughts this week. Yeah, I was inspired by Theo and his job of writing letters. That was something we didn't really... talk too much about in this but like even this idea of writing letters for other people and at first it seemed like man this seems like this was the one thing that seemed like dystopian to me it's like what like you have to pay somebody else to write

letters to your significant other or like the most important people in your life because you can't write them yourselves but then i thought about it i was like well would it be better to have somebody write a letter someone else write it for you rather than it not be written at all and like be given like this this collection of letters throughout your life that do a much more eloquent job of

representing your love for another person you know it's like if someone else designs your living room like is it does it like does it matter like could it be the same for like letters like if someone else writes them for you but they're like the way you feel So that was fun. So I actually, you know, I thought it was a good exercise that maybe I, that I could write a letter for the show. So that's, that's what I did. Dear, dear hosts and listeners.

It's been almost five years since our first episode. And in that time, we have laughed and loved a whole lot. We have had our share of highs and lows from the slog of finishing Cats and the Star Wars Holiday Special. to the heights of 15-star movies like Interstellar, Harakiri, and Arrival. We have met in person and chatted nearly every day online. We have learned a lot about ourselves.

And the movies we have watched together have made us who we are today. I'm not perfect. I know that. But I have said hurtful things. And for that, I'm sorry. I'm not done growing. None of us are. I'm sure I'll fail again and make the same mistakes, but underneath there's a better version of me making its way out. Thanks for sticking with me all this time. Peace and love. Slim. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. We'll see everybody next week for Take Shelter.

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