Black Panther (2018)

Hey, it's your old pal Slim, and this is 70mm, a podcast for movie lovers. Just like you, disclaimer at the top of the show, we're not experts, but we do love watching movies. With me each and every episode is my close friend and artist, Danny Haas. Hello. And our close friend and influencer, Pertalexus. My vibrania.

Every movie that we cover is connected to a theme for that month, and this time we're celebrating Black History Month, and you can use the chapters in your podcast app to skip to our main discussion. This week it's Danny's Pick from Ryan Kugler in 2018. Black Panther. So feels like last year. We're chatting in the pre show and it it feels twenty years ago. No. Twenty? Yeah.

It was the last real year, is what I feel like. Oh, okay. We need we need to reset the year count, I think. After 2019. Yeah. Bring it back. We're on year six. Uh but the big story tonight. Uh fresh over my desk. Dale and I have been Ew. Dale. Why is that ew? Fresh over my desk? My God.

Uh, Dale and I, you know, Dale's a producer of the show. We're working for f several hours before we record. We try to figure out what the the hot news items are to get into at the top of the show. Um, just reminders, use the chapters to get to Black Panther if you want. Hollywood Chamber of Commerce says Sydney Sweeney did not get permission to hang bras on the Hollywood sign.

Have you seen this? You heard about this, Proto? I did. I I saw it for just a hot second, just a minute. I saw her there was video of her sneaking between I think the H and the O, uh, to go plant her bras. uh at the sign. And apparently you're not allowed to hang bras on these signs. I don't know if you're even allowed to go up there. No.

The bra specifically is not outlined, but you're not allowed to like do any publicity by the sign unless it's approved. And uh she did not get approval. She might fail face jail time for this. Are you serious? Hell I heard. Wow. Danny, your thoughts on Braz and the Hollywood sign and City Sweeney? I'm I'm for'em all. I like bras and the Hollywood signs and I like Sydney. I'm pro. Uh in some ways that's an anti feminist take, being pro bras. Um I am anti bras.

Accidentally backed yourself into a bra corner there. I can't keep up. She's Whatever the safest answer is for Danny, that's the one he's gonna choose. Underwire. I don't care. Underwire, oh my god. Are you going on on like the bra wiki or something? I live with four women. I know how I know you know, under speaking a black tongue right now.

Chat is saying anti underwire. I'm gonna have to just cut out Danny saying anything potentially positive, but I don't know why I don't want that any out there in the universe. Right. If they're anti-underwire, so am I. That's my stance.

An ally to the end. Mm-hmm. Um, we mentioned it last week, but our episode 300 is next m uh month, March, the first week of March. So we're gonna do something we've never uh done before we're I don't think we've actually maybe we have done it before. But let's just pretend that we've never done it. We're gonna do something we've never done before uh and announce the theme for March early. Do they know why? Because it starts that Um Show history, we're finally gonna do it.

Cut the music. Cut it. I can't even concentrate right now. Um actually before I do that, uh there was another bit where I was gonna play this song. But this song gets me hyped. This is a great song. So episode 300 and for March we're going To Jaku. We will be covering the Star Wars sequel trilogy starting in March with episode three hundred, uh, and that will be the

And we're gonna go cut the music. We're gonna go down the line. We're gonna do the last Jedi. Mm-hmm. And we're gonna do the third one. Mm-hmm. Uh we're going back to Jekku in March. Proto is finally happening. We said it might never happen, but we're doing it to celebrate 300 episodes. We are. We lost them again. And I'm You know, at some point I think we swore we'd never do it.

And we're backtracking at this point. And we're gonna do it because, you know, you make it to three hundred episodes and you're um you're allowed to backtrack once. Mm-hmm. Uh On your own podcast. So that's what we're gonna do. And I c you know, when we talk Star Wars. Ears, it's magic. Jedi in that Unless you cut this music. Cut it off. Cut it off.

First of all, I have to complain to Riverside, folks. Riverside, we need to sort out this volume uh knob. Sort the knob. Sort the knob. Hashtag sort the knob Riverside. We'll get this figured out. Danny, any thoughts on going back to Jakku? You know, no, I'm saving it for the show. What the sorry the hell yeah. Stop clicking buttons. Someone, please. Sorry, I'm having a great time. So anyway, uh Force Awakens in March. Much more to come, uh going back to Jack who.

Um, for the Star Wars sequel trilogy. Can't wait to see the art. I got to do that. I think we're legally are we allowed to do art? We'll make some phone calls. We'll talk to Lucasfilm and I gotta make some phone call uh the legal team. But it should be a very exciting month. Um, Proto, did you watch any films?

This past week. We're recording early. Yeah, I did watch some movies. I was able to fit a few movies in. I Watched a movie I've never seen, but I've heard much talked about uh in my day. Blazing saddles. Hello. Christ. Mills that? Yeah, well that's it showed up on HBO Max and I thought, I've heard this movie was banned. You're not allowed to play this movie anymore. Um

And uh I c yeah, I could see why someone would say that possibly after seeing this. But I was actually surprised by this movie. Um, in some ways I felt like no, I don't I haven't seen all of Mel Brooks's movies, of course. But I was I felt like, is this Mel Brooks' holy grail? Like if you compare him to his um the counterparts over the over the ocean, the uh the Monty Python. Mm-hmm.'Cause I consider that their best. Is this Mel Brooks' best? You know, I mean question.

Scathing commentary on this this nation that we live in. Uh and I I thought it was I don't know, I felt like it's it's it's pretty good at what it does. Uh I did not give it stars because who knows? Oh. Oh. Who knows might what might happen someday on this podcast. When it's time to end it all. Blazing saddles. I haven't seen um I have not seen it since I started using Letterboxed, but I do remember I th I feel like this was on TV.

Um so at the time when I was younger, I felt like it was like an accepted thing. But nowadays I feel like I don't hear anyone talking about blazing saddles. Or I don't know, are they are they s comfortable talking about blazing saddles? That's the question. It's it's a complicated picture. Uh and you know it's 90 minutes long. I was sh I was shocked that Gene Wilder doesn't show up until you're a third of the way through the movie. Really? Oh, really? Yeah, it's wild.

Uh I'm like, hey, I'm watching a Gene Wilder movie and nowhere to be seen. I mean that's my favorite kind of Gene Wilder movie. Oh. Oh. Well we remember go back to our walk. Everyone listening for the first time, just relax, okay? I had issues with the Wonka movie. Mm-hmm. I I loved nobody loves Gene Wilder more than I do. That's a stone cold fact. That's true. I said it before and I'll say it again. But I'm excited to at some point cover blading saddles.

Danny, have you ever seen it? You have never seen it, right? I have. Oddly enough, the same person that showed me that showed me Boys in the Hood. Double double featch. Blazing sounds poison the hood. I don't, we would never be allowed to do that. And in chat, I can attest dad's talk about blazing saddles. It's a dad's movie, I think. I think my dad liked it. Watched it.

What else, bro? Anything else? Um, I did. I continued on the the hater the haters club movie challenge this week and watched Lars and the Real Girl. Oh my. This is from 2007. Uh, starring Ryan Gosling. And this is like a an indie movie from this time, from what I remember. I remember when this movie came out. And uh you know, this is before Ryan kind of broke out, I think, in his big roles. This is before

Uh, you know, Driver, Only God Forgives, uh, The Place in the Pines, all those movies that I feel like he became, you know, the figure that he is now. Um So and he plays this guy, he plays a a younger brother to uh his older brother. That's the stupidest thing I've ever seen. What did you just say? He plays a guy who's like kind of a recluse. He lives um In his parents' shed, his his his older brother and his wife live in the house. Um, and he he's just like

Very detached. He has a job, but like he doesn't interact with anyone, kind of keeps to himself very almost like a hermit. Uh and then one day he buys a life-sized uh doll, uh woman, and he begins dating her. Under wire. Uh He begins dating her and uh and then it's about the people in his life either accept accepting this or, you know, trying to make sense of it. And, you know, it's it's like his process of

working through things in his life. But I found it to be like a really actually a really adorable, beautiful story about uh like acceptance and figuring things out and how everyone's life can be different. Um Ryan Gosling is so great in this. Like he is just, man, I I love watching him. I'm just, you know, a complete sellout for Ryan. Oh god. Yeah, I'm just I'm a God's head. I'll say it.

I I love I I just love his um you know hi this quiet moments. Like he says so much without saying anything at all. Uh he's adorable in this. Uh you know, I think it's great. I gave it three stars. Just quickly I'll say hello to Nick and Matt, uh, who joined our Patreon, got access to uncut episodes and that post show that I just referenced. Uh our supporters get longer uncut episodes.

And most of our supporters prefer those episodes. They don't want to listen to the edited version. And that's fine. Whatever they want to listen to is okay with us. Um, we just pushed out a jackass audio commentary to interns. Dustin just became an intern. Um Uh, real quick, I watched uh I did watch a movie this week. Well, first of all, we just finished our rewatch up adventure time. Again Incredible. Just done an another dynamite journey. Okay. Successful.

Uh one of the best one of the best to ever do it. Mm-hmm. Please watch Adventure Time at all costs. Um, I asked my wife if she wanted to watch uh a new Stephen King picture. Oh no. Because uh, you know, I'm a glutton for marital punishment. Amanda Evergreen statement. Um, The Long Walk. Ugh Jesus. From uh from the master of uh Hunger Games, Francis Lawrence, directed all those movies. And he directed Legend I am Legend. Should have put it on the case. Also directed uh Constantine with Keanu.

And uh the list goes on. But, you know, I felt like me, you know, it's Date night at the house on the couch. Let's check it out. Um it it's like a dystopian future where everyone's poor, the government has taken over, they've lost a war, um, and people submit to take the long walk. And they essentially like it's these twenty five people, they walk until they can't walk anymore. And the last person standing wins riches and a wish.

Okay. And the whole movie is just these people walking. Cooper Hoffman's in it. Um I thought it was a dud. Sad to say. I saw a lot of like positive reviews come in, like Stephen King's back, the master's back. Cooper Hoffman legend. Um, I thought the whole thing was kind of insufferable. It was it's like a Hunger Games type movie. You know, you there's all these characters with different personas that are so over the top and you get attached to them, etcetera.

So I'm I'm I'm sorry to say it didn't it didn't work for me. Okay. So they just walk. It's like did Forrest Gump write write this movie? When I saw a trailer for those, I was like, this is the I don't even want to talk about it. Doesn't even have the energy. No energy for this one. Let's move on, Deanny. What did you watch? Uh continued both of my journeys. The hater journey this week was um Francis Ha. Directed by Noam Baumbach

Greta, Greta Gerla get this, stole my heart. Like, absolute. I can't get over Greta in this film. I was glued. to her. I want to be glued to her. Excuse me. Um I don't have her side. I would I was smitten. I I just I really loved the story. Um her finding her way in this world. It it just it was electric. She was electric, the writing was good.

Proto had given it stars, so I felt like I could give it stars. I gave it five stars. This is an easy five star. I mean this I I just I I fell in love with this film. Everything about it. It's easy to fall in. Skinny Adam Driver. It's easy to fall in love with Greta. She's a dynamo. Yeah. It's dynamo. She has a line in this that um is like she doesn't care about

Fantasy unless it's talking animals going to war. I'm like, is that are you talking about Narnia? Narnia. Foreshadow. You kidding me? It's crazy. Uh anyway, watch Francis Ha from a hater journey. It was fantastic. Black and white film. Who does it better? Uh from my for my Oscar journey, I watched um nineteen forty two's The Battle of Midway. Uh, which is an 18 minute documentary that won the Oscar that year. And I had the only thing I knew about it was the fact that it was filmed by.

John Ford. But I thought that he was like sent footage and just put together? I didn't realize the Navy flew him out to Midway Island to film the Navy, but while he was there the battle happened. What? Well and he filmed the battle with a camera, Technicolor, film, and he was afraid that because of what he filmed, they would have edited it to not be as brutal.

So he flew the film like straight to Roosevelt because Roosevelt's son was there in the Navy as well. And Roosevelt, like, forced it to not be edited at all because m people needed to see this, et cetera. It's only eighteen minutes, but it's crazy to think that John Ford was running around this island with a camera during a battle when they got attacked. Pretty crazy stuff. Yeah. What year was this? Mm-hmm.

Anyway, that's what I watched between the last time we recorded and now. Oh, so this is just 18 minutes. I thought you meant the scene was 18 minutes. No, no, it's just it's just 18 minutes of footage that they got. Wow. Henry Some guys get all the luck. John Ford. John Ford gets all the luck. My problem when any time I think about John Ford is I just picture David Lynch with an eye patch. Absolutely. I can't think of John Ford in any other way at this point in my life.

Have you ever seen any like Moving on. This is my first John Ford film, if that's what you're asking. Yeah, you should check out uh searchers. I just recently watched that for the first time. I got uh The Searchers. John f uh John Wayne. There was a magazine at the supermarket today about John Wayne. Really? Why? I don't know. I wanna dig into the magazine business. Really? Like w where's the money coming from? John Wayne magazine.

There's uh David Bowie magazine. Mm-hmm. It's like are is ninety percent of magazine purchases just impulse? Like, yeah, I could read this one, take it a crap, I'll buy this on my way home. That's a great question.

Uh all right, I guess it's time. Episode two ninety six. That means we're close to 300. We're that close. That close. Uh but this is Danny's pick. Black Panther. Kickoff the month. Brand new month. I don't know what's this movie all about. In Africa is a hidden place, the nation of Waka.

This secret nation benefits from the super duper metal vibranium, which allows for all kinds of goodies like flying ships, powerful After his father's death, T'Challa becomes the king of the But all is not well in Wakanda because there is a dark secret from the past that could end Wakanda as we know it and the Black Panther. I mean we're we're entering dangerous territory. Deanie has I feel like maybe both both hosts have have nearly forbidden MCU talk on this show.

Uh we it's too dangerous. We don't want to get into it. Danny often starting near riots in Discords when there's a new movie, Marvel movie out. You know? The goading. That happens when these movies come out and Danny ready to pounce. Okay. Um and Proto, you know, Proto's the question mark. What does Proto think about an MCU movie? Probably not not great, right? Right. Uh if you had to put one superhero movie in your four faves, what would it be if you had to choose? Any superhero movie?

Not counting the Rocketeer. Damn it. Uh honest probably Spider Man one. Tobey McGuire. Oh the first Spider Man. Li life changing. It's life changing. That's good. Pro, what about you? That's real good. Ugh. I mean Danny maybe took the one good one. Um but I mean if you're gonna go Batman 89? No. Uh man, I feel like I'm I I would need I need to think about this. Um Do you have ten seconds? Otherwise the show's cancelled for the evening.

Well, I think I'd have to go DC. If Danny's going Marvel, I gotta go DC and represent. And you know, I've watched a lot of Batmans recently, and I think the one that I feel it the most right now is the Batman. Hello. Wow. From twenty two, Matt Reeves. Thank you, Matt Reeves. I look forward to your sequel and I would put your movie in my top four. My gosh. Okay.

I just imagine like uh a a dumb video where like as if you're accepting an award, but you're just presenting Matt Reeves an award because you said in this episode you would put it before Figs. Like, big congrats to Matt. Just wanted to let you know. I would probably put in Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse. That's the second one. Across. Mm. Yeah. Across over into. Okay. Mmm. Golly. Mm-hmm.

Remember I mean, you felt like anything was possible in twenty twenty three when you saw that movie. It's true. Mm-hmm. Anything was possible. I know people are bummed that um like the next one is like so delayed, but I I think Intu came out in twenty eighteen. And the second one came out in 2023. So it's not like they were super back to back. No. Let them cook. Take as long as you need. Let them cook.

Um, let's set the stage. Where was Marvel at when Black Panther was coming out? Uh Captain America's Civil War was uh two years before this. Civil War was the worst. When you thought everything anything was possible. It was the worst. Oh my god. That's like watching Highgard play on Twitch. The hanger scene. Remember when imagine if they kept it a secret that Spider-Man was in that movie? Didn't they didn't he like appear in a trailer and that's how it was revealed? And then people started like,

No, Tom Holland leaked it on a late night show that he was under some stupid. That's made up. Can we get Dale? Can you check that out? I want to fact check that. Um, so after Civil War changed the game and people were saying Civil War greatest superhero movie of all time. Uh Guardians of the Galaxy came out. Guardians of the Galaxy two rather. The second one. I think that one was the one with Kurt Russell, maybe. Is that right? Kurt Kurt made an appearance, yeah. I didn't like that one too much.

Uh Spider Man Homecoming. The first Spider Man. The first Holland Spiderman. And then Thor Ragnarok. And that, I mean, they're print they're printing money. Physically. Right. Oh, I didn't see Ragnarok. Stop it. Just come on. I'm still gonna make it a little bit more. Control tactics back. I didn't see I don't mind I'm like the invisible woman and I'm I'm just mentally pushing out and there's a there's a bubble around me. While holding a baby While holding an obviously CGI baby

Um and then Black Panther comes out. Yeah. All right. So just let's set the stage post Black Panther, if if we can. Uh Infinity War. Came out after Black Panther. Oh, that followed Panther. Yes. That's true and then uh that second Ant Man movie. And then the lost one? Captain Marvel. And then uh previously called Infinity War Part Two, but now renamed Endgame. Just an absolute downward spiral afterwards. It's right in the middle. It's right in the thick of things here.

And then as far as I'm aware, they stopped making Marvel movies after Endgame. Oh. And with the new one that's coming out with Tony Stark, they're they're kicking them back up again. Okay. Um so Danny, what's your history with Black Panther? And maybe if needed, maybe a little history on uh where the MCU hurt you and why. Where it hurt me? I mean, honestly, probably civil war. I think that's when the fr I you know, I don't love the Thor movies, honestly.

But I haven't seen Ragnarok or Love and Thunder. I I refuse. But Black Panther I mean I was there night one. What are we at is the eighteenth movie in the MCU? So, you know, eighteen films to get uh a black superhero finally. Um and I was there. I was there night one. That was the eighteenth movie? Is that real? If I did my math correctly. I wrote those out by hand in my notes. I'm not looking at a wiki page. Who knows?

No one'cause if you're at in game in game was what, four movies after? That's twenty five, twenty six movies? Damn. They did 25 movies in 10 years. I don't know, Slim. This is why no one has to be. Can anyone verify Danny's claims? Everyone's burnt out. Any way to verify this? Proto is feverishly opening an encyclopedia. It's like Tony Stark's HUD right now. Proto answer the question. What what number movie Let me see. I'm reading these titles.

What number MCU movie is Black Panther? Let's see. Phase one, I'm counting six movies. Okay. Uh phase two, six movies. Okay. And then Thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteenth. Eighteenth movie, Black Panther. Eighteen films later. Okay. Eighteen films later. Product, what about you? Well, Slim, I've said it before that uh I retired from the MCU after Iron Man two. Iron Man two?

Yeah. Holy cow. Uh so you know, I of course I've watched a lot of them uh in the comfort of my own home or when someone suggested to go to the theater once or twice. I think I saw Guardians of the Galaxy in the theater. Uh somebody watched Black Panther at home. Um probably twenty nineteen, twenty twenty. I don't really remember. Um didn't get to the theater for Black Panther.

No. I mean I was there. Yeah. I was there Gandalf. Mm-hmm. Was Iron Man two the one with uh Elon Musk's cameo? Do you remember that one? Yes, I think so. Yeah. Uh Remember the picture with the cowboy hat? Someone posted in chat. Please. Oh no. Uh I did see Black Panther. in theaters and I was gobsmacked by Danny saying eighteen because I remember for a while people were like doing the marathons. Yeah. And then theaters to do

The Marvel movie marathon. I'm gonna see them all up until this new one. Mm-hmm. Was? I those people should be in prison right now, I feel like. Unhealthy. But uh yeah, I remember really enjoying Black Panther at the time that I saw it. Uh hopeful for the future. Um, we'll get into it, man. Are we still hopeful for the future? Are we? Um, this is Danny's pick. So what's the top of your list for this viewing, Danny?

Um, top of my list, I think it's low-hanging fruit. It's kind of easy, but to praise. Chadwick in this film. I really love Chadwick. I think the he's probably the reason I love this film the most is I really enjoy his performances to Chala and um There's so many like moments when'cause for him at this point we have had so many superheroes. who either have like just like crazy big characters or these big moments. But there's something about Chadwick's uh calm and like quiet.

His um presence is like so soothing in this film that it makes it feel like I don't know, not not like not like an MCU film. It just feels like something so different. Um and and eighteen films later I feel like it was like shockingly different. the story-wise and him. So I I just I love Chadwick. And there is a There was a great acceptance, not acceptance speech. He was presenting there was like an award being presented to um Denzel Washington and Chadwick spoke at it.

And I just I miss him. I'm so bummed that we lost him. He's he was just an incredible actor and um I just he's my favorite part of this film. Mm-hmm. Yeah, you mentioned like how it feels different in, you know, Ryan Kugler Definitely brings like I'm trying to think of like a non funny way to say it, but like Kevin Feige.

is maybe was smart enough at the time to see like, listen, I don't know anything about black culture, so you're gonna have to take the lead on this one. And like that worked to the benefit of this film and and Ryan and the team because it does like I'm not saying it's entirely different from like the MCU machine, but there's just something in it that feels like, you know, this is this is slightly different and it's cool and it's different than

than what you're used to. Like you're it like they they let Chadwick and like Ryan, you know, do most of their own thing. And I feel like it shows when you s when you re watch this movie compared to, you know, twenty twenty six.

Marble. I was gonna say I think yeah, I think I agree. I think Chadwick is good casting in this. I like it because I you know, I had never seen him in anything before this. Um so there's like no you know, uh understanding of who he is or or, you know, j just a framework of reference bec and with like I think superheroes, I think that helps.

Because it's, you know, when you hear Benedict Cumberbatch, Doctor Strange, it's you know, that comes with like a lot of baggage in terms of yeah, like who you know he who he is. Um and I think he just like he playing a king, a royal character, it just he car he like he he's good at presenting in that way and like carrying that

through, I think. So I thought it was great casting. Mm-hmm. I think something that helps us film too, you know, so many films later in the MCU is we're not watching a story that's Um End of the world kind of telling of a story, or um something, some big entity is coming to Earth.

to destroy it so the Black Panther has to go defend Earth or something some like monumental task where the story is like really contained to Wakanda and uh the things that Wakanda has caused Michael B. Jordan's character and, you know, the more personal stuff with uh both of their fathers in the film, I feel like the story is so contained in such a smaller um kind of bubble than the MCU that we've had thus far before this. So even like the storytelling is completely different.

um than where we've come where we've been at. When we just got off a civil war. I mean, this is like a a step back in kind of the grandiose storytelling in the MCU. And it almost feels like impossible. now. And I I think we talked about this like on the previous episodes where like comic books are the same way. Like they're when you when you start reading a comic book where they reboot it, it's cool for

the first right year or two. But then it just inevitably you start to have to group into like other books that are in the same universe, where there's just like enough lore that you've created that it gets confusing. So it's almost like, you know, soon after or around Endgame is like when that started to happen where it's like you know, you're like, what I had to watch this show, I have to read this comic to yeah kind of understand. So I looked at my

um Wakanda Forever review. And I think that was the first time that I felt like lost. Because I think Julia Louis Dreyfus's character is in that Uh. She's just like a regular and I'm like, who the F is this person talking? I'm like, I don't know what's going on. I didn't watch a television show. So it's it's like And I guess the um Martin character is like some of that. Like he's an existing character that carries between the a different sorts of movies, but it's not like out of place.

Like it feels like there's enough ex explanation that like, okay, they're they know each other. But it's not like so out of place. I'm like, I don't know who this guy is or why I care. It still pretty much works. And again, this is still early in the universe. So, you know, th those characters I think worked pretty well for me this time around still. Uh pro

Uh yeah, I like that too, of how like it's a a contained story. I I feel like I always prefer that in these in superhero movies in general. Like I want a smaller story. And, you know, Marvel is like the worst at making it always about saving the world. You know, it's like always this is the end of the world if our hero doesn't save and it's it's so tiresome. Um Uh a and seems like such a crutch. So whenever a story

you know, movie's gonna do something else. Uh, and I think this really benefits from that. And I and I like how it's like just even like the you know, kind of the setup at the beginning, you know, you don't know this flashback to nineteen ninety two. you know, how this is gonna play out. Um, and then you get the reveal later. Uh, you know, I in terms of like having a small story and it really being a story about this family and their legacy and like you know, what it means. Uh, I think that's

that's done pretty well. And e I mean, even just that is like so far f it feels like removed from what you get in a Marvel movie. Uh so like I I think that's a huge plus for this. Yeah. Um the composer Ludwig Gorenson I mean, that guy has done just about everything. He's done work. My God. Sinners Oppenheimer, Black Panther, Tenant, Wokanda Forever, Turning Red, Creed. So I listened to an episode of Oh, it's the Amy Polar podcast with Ryan Kutler on it.

And she does this thing on the podcast where um So she's gonna interview somebody, but then she like calls one of their friends before she does the interview and says like, hey, I'm interviewing your friend. Do you have a question that I could ask them? Uh so she called uh what's his face? The computer? Ludwig, yeah. She calls him. And He's like talking about their background. Apparently they they met in school, uh like at university.

So before he was a composer and before he was a d and Ryan Kugler was a director, they knew each other and like that's why and they did Fruit Veil Station together. And like I think it it kind of launched both of their careers.

Which is kind of cool. And now like I mean you look at both of them and like yeah, love like he's like he does Nolan's movies now. It's it's pretty wild. Right. Um, so it is it it it's it's it's cool. It's cool to see how that's uh blossomed for both of them. Yeah, he's doing the Odyssey. Crazy. Uh my first note. I mean, this has one of the greatest supporting casts in movie history. It's crazy. Just at absolute all time. I mean, Chadwick, Michael B. Jordan, um

Daniel Kalua, Leticia Wright, Winston Duke, Sterling K. Brown, Angela Bassett, Farrus Whittaker, and to top it all off, Andy Circus, obviously at the top of the list. Number one. Number one do we. Um but man, the cast is so good. Like I kind of forget like Winston Duke. c steals so many scenes yeah in this movie and I'm I think he's like a big part of the next um Avengers movie.

uh with Leticia. And Leticia's also like great casting. She feels like the perfect casting for this, you know, scientist Wakandan um princess. uh who eventually, you know, takes the the mantle of Black Panther. She has so many great scenes. And it's also just like the writing for these for the supporting cast. Um it's fun. It's funny. It's like fun to see the family interact.

Um, and it never feels too forced or like overwritten. It just feels very real for these characters to have lived in Wakanda and they just feel like a family. And then like you get the conversations with um Winston Duke from the tribe who has been like kind of ostracized by their own decision, but all that stuff works really well. And the the lore of Wakanda from these characters, it feels

You know, real and lived in. So I love the supporting cast part. I don't know what you thought. Uh I mean I found the the sister Let the Letitia Wright character to be insufferable. Like this is like classic Marvel brain dead cornball dialogue the whole time. Like, kill me with with this this nonsense. I cannot stand any of this. I'm out. My God. He mentally checked out as soon as

she appeared on screen, you probably opened up your phone to the state run TikTok. Just I mean, of course your sister is a scientist creating all of this stu it's just like whatever, okay. It's just they're banter while she's like driving riding the on you know, driving the car and he's on top. Okay, okay. Who wrote this? Is is Joss Wheed and Spirit in the room now?

You didn't like her Coachella line at the end of the movie when she's uh landing dropping down with Chadwick? No? No. Man, checked out. Dani, any uh similar thoughts or different thoughts? On Letitia. Um supporting cast in general. I you know, I don't mind Leticia. I think there is um There there also there feels like there has to be a a little bit of uh MCU tinge that you have to put on this to make.

you know, people happy. Quippy. So so like her quippiness and then, you know, some of the graphics and the fight scenes, some of it just feels very MCU coded. Uh her character for sure. For me, I mean, I'm a huge Winston Duke fan. His if you wanna if you wanna see a Winston Duke performance, watch nine days, brought me to tears. I love Winston Duke. And I really love him in this. I think he's a great, he's a crazy presence in this film. Um I mean, but Martin and...

Uh, what's his name? Andy Circus. The two white dweebs in this. I can't get over how dweeby they look in this entire film. Every every every other cast. It makes them look small. And I hate I hate Andy Circus's character so much. You didn't think he was hard with those tattoos? It looks like he's injected like way too much too much too many like steroids and pre workout powder.

And like he he's never done it before and that's why how he's responding to the to his steroids. Like it's like probably he has to like get out of bed standing up. Like there's no way he's able to bend over to get out of bed. There's not one of his body bends. Like Kramer in the tight jeans. I can barely look at him in this film. What about the uh Dora Melage? Uh the elite female special forces unit.

Okoye. Okoye and My God. I mean they were fa I thought she was fantastic. She has so many great scenes. Fantastic in this film. I I mean she I love her I love her like she's so powerful and I uh she was also in Walking Dead, correct? She's Yeah. Michonne. Can't we pulled that name out of my fucking ass. Jesus Christ. Walking dead. God damn. Um Uh, I love her in this. I think she has like such a great little she has l really good comedy chops, like little uh kind of funny lines she can deliver.

She's real powerful. She's just great. I I like her. I like when there's that moment where she has to still defend the kingdom that she serves and it's now taken over by Killmonger and she's just kind of crying and having the conversation with uh Lupita and it's just ah she's great. I mean also sh uh great scenes too where she's like

the guard she tells her guard now it's like now's the time to fight Killmonger. Like that he's he's disrespecting the throne. Like that scene is awesome. And then when she talks to her husband At the where she like gets in front of Mbaku. Would you kill me, my love? For Wakanda.

Without question. And then her her line reading of without question is like top three Marvel movie line readings. And then they that's the end of the fight. But those I mean they're so badass. Like even like the special mission. um to start the movie to like the underground club.

Mm-hmm. When they're going through I love that stuff. Her mad about the wig she has to wear. Oh, it's a terrible wig. It's so funny. How do people not realize that like what's going on in that little shop? There's e there's one entrance and everyone just going through the front door. All these tuxedos walking through this door. There's nothing like hidden about what's going on there. When circus pulls up with ten cars deep, blocking the entire alley from doing business.

Oh, circus. Deanny, next on your list. Michael B. Jordan

Almost steals this entire show for me. I I love his first his look when you see him in the um in the in the in the museum when he's trying to steal the uh vibranium artifact axe thing the masks he picks there's just something about Michael B he makes he plays a great bad guy but it was like He's it's like he's the bad guy, but also like He's just fighting for what's his and he's uh avenging l his father's death and I love the reveal of that to where it's just kind of like

They're almost like brothers. And it's just there's so much there's so much about him that I love in this film. uh his look, you know, when he takes off his shirt and he's got all the markings from the people he's killed and the wars he's fought, uh He's a badass. He really is. And I love the sparring between Killmonger and Black Panther. Now, I don't think. I mean to say

To say an MC m MCU movie graphics don't hold up isn't something new. Like it pick a just throw a dart and that movie's graphics aren't holding up anymore. And this it's it's the same. Like I don't feel like the fights look that great knowing that they're all animated. There's I don't know. That the fights that look the best are it's just the two of them in the waterfall. But then you put the suits on and it's like I'm watching PS three graphics fight each other.

It really bugs. Yeah, it really bugs me. It looks terrible now. I don't I didn't feel it then, but I definitely feel it now, watching it. How it's just you talk about not aging well. There's also just like any time like even Killmonger fighting the guard, some of that stuff just doesn't look right. It looks just like is the entire character CGI when he's in the costume? It doesn't

They couldn't have had him, and maybe they did like do mocap and just add the suit, but it just looked off. There's a couple things I watched, because I had those questions too. And It's like both. There's like there's like this it's not like mo cap because they weren't wearing um like the balls and stuff on their body to like track their movements.

There's a there's this there were there was a show in this thing where um uh Chadwick is like walking up like literally wearing the suit, but then they also CG'd a suit on top of him. to give the like purple effects and so it's like it's like not just his suit, it's like there's like another layer of computer graphics on top.

So it's like there's like a weird effect happening. Like they showed like when when you first see the reveal of Michael B. Jordan wearing the Killmonger and it kind of melts his clothes off and it forms. It's just like they're CG ing right on top of him. Like it's very odd. Like I don't understand why. Yeah, some shots it looks like

He's like the character's like moving too fast and maybe that's like the Black Panther thing. He's a Panther, like he super but then it just kinda it just looks goofy. Yeah, they look rubbery. Like Stretch arm strong. It it didn't work. I mean Avatar was like thirteen years before this. Like to put to put things into perspective or I mean it was before this, but like yeah, they could have done something else.

And and maybe that like finale was like listen, Ryan, you can do this movie, but you gotta have a fight scene of them falling in the Wakandan mines. And it's got to be 90% darkness. Okay. You're just going to have to deal with it. But like, let's pitch something else that's like cooler or more visible. Um, I don't know. Like that fight scene is just one of the worst. Like even the final m like move that he does where he like does this kick and a flip and come on, it's like, nice move.

Huh? Yeah. I don't even know what just happened. It's just like he did a backflip and then kicked you or something. Like I don't think there's anything cool about what just happened. How about Killmonger getting a spear in the chest and then just like walking? like walking out of there to the cliff with the spear still in his chest. Yeah. As long as you don't pull it out, you're fine. That cliff looked pretty, pretty weak sauce too. Also, like them hanging out on that cliff.

That was a King Kong 2000 one homage. That was a a Peter Jackson homage. That did not hold up either. Yeah. I mean it's hard to it's hard to like hold it to it because I feel like I could say that about every Marvel movie I watch now. It's probably it doesn't hold up. Right. Right. Because it's so it's so riddled with CG.

Which makes it even like kind of more shocking to me of like the the parts that work so well in this movie that you you we got this i inside the Marvel machine. It almost feels like looking back that it's a miracle that any of these movies were any good. Right. Like how how is it possible? Right,'cause even when we watch like like the scenes that I love, like them two doing, like even the first when he fights Mbaku on the waterfall.

And when he fights Killmonger on the waterfall, it's like the battle's great, but you pan around and look out and the green screen is all behind them. Like the green screen is so obvious that it's like Why? The second time he sees his dad, where he confronts him about the kid that he left, Killmunker, that is Some of the worst green screen. So it's like they needed to film that in a day and send the footage in a hard drive to like the team to start.

But yeah, Killmonger, a revelation. I think they had done Creed before this. So his his stock was rising. Yeah. Um But man, he is a absolute revelation to the point where I remember being bummed that the character died at the end of the movie. I was like, can we just maybe put him on ice or something? Like we need more Michael B. Jordan movies. Yeah. And he's really good. And also, like, you know, after Chadwick passed away.

you know, people are wondering what they're gonna do with the Marvel movies. Are they gonna recast? Or are they gonna just do some multiverse thing? But like honestly I was like, Michael, can we just give Michael B. Jordan twenty million dollars? And somehow he's back and he takes up the mantle. Or maybe it's like a multiverse Michael B. Jordan Kilcommer. Right. From the next movie. Panther on a different earth? That'd be sick of that.

That's a license to print money, my friend. Damn. So that would be sick. I have no idea. I mean, and then the killmonger that he killed on that earth was Chadwick. Oh my god. Yo, that is amazing. Uh, I know Kevin listens to this show. Kevin, can we backtrack our plans? Can we ship out a green screen and film some new stuff for this new Avengers movie? Um so yeah, he's he's great, fantastic, um, definitely a highlight.

That that there's a shot. Sorry, one one more thing about Michael B. There's a shot where he's finally he's won and it's like it's the shot where he's walking into the throne but it's upside down and like pans on with the music hitting. Yeah. Electric. Yeah.

I think I read that sorry, Proto. Sorry to interrupt Pardo again. I think Googler finally talked a little bit about what his original script for the second movie was. Oh. And I think he talked about how There was another tradition in Wakanda where like a father takes his son on

you know, like forty days and forty nights, like a journey, just them in the like in the woods or essentially like the forest, and they encounter a swine Z. So I think that was the original plan for the second movie. Which would have been pretty sick. Um if that's it. I wish I see what you guys see in Michael B. Jordan, but Interesting. I just don't really I just don't really see that. Um, I find him to kind of be a dork. Oh like the whole machismo like

Hey, I'm Michael B. Jordan. Like the way he walks, like I'm gonna I'm gonna just take that. It it's it's it sounds like he to me it's like what a twelve year old thinks like a bad guy would be like. So like we were talking about the MCU though. True. Made for twelve year olds. R but you guys are talking about it like you think it's cool still. Well yeah. So I'm not I'm kinda confused. Cause I'm just like I don't know. I just I I just don't really get it. And like I'm kinda like

like chuckling anytime I'm seeing him try to be like a bad guy. Like he doesn't to me, he doesn't work as a bad guy. But that's just me. I'm, you know, I'm very happy that people love him in this. Don't really work. Um, but the thing I do love is I really love the depiction of Wakanda in this. Uh I think it's just really cool. Like, I mean, it's it's a great idea, right? Like kind of this hidden society, you know, that's covered with some kind of force field.

And then just even like the the look and design. of the city. and the crafts and just the technology. I feel like it's different enough that it doesn't feel like, oh, this is just like futuristic technology. There's enough spice to it and like culture infused in it. that it does feel like it's it's it's like if you look at it, you're like, oh, that is Wakanda. That isn't just like future tech.

So I I really like that about this. I felt like they the designers did a good good work on that production design. Right. And it must have been like super fun to work on, you know, design. Futuristic Africa. I think it's like the technical term is like Afrofuturism also. But like they have everything. They have like the futuristic, you know, main city, but you also have the smaller towns on the side streets. It it's like so full of

You know, like it it l you're literally like this is pretty sick. Like I'm full of wonder seeing modern day Wakanda in a film. Um and I ha honestly forgot that they were like a secret society in this movie. Or not like a secret society, but like They kept it to themselves.

in this movie because like when they were acting like all shocked, we can't have them talk about Wakanda. I was like, what are you talking about? Everyone knows Wakanda. So I forgot that that was like a major plot point in the movies. Yeah, no, I think it's fantastic. I I love the mix of what we kind of picture.

um Africa to be with the modern city and I like that we're watching an MCU where we don't have to watch a city get destroyed. Uh especially this one. So it's it feels special. I like when um like uh T'Challa and um Oh my gosh, I can't forget her name in the movie, but sh uh Lupita's character, they walk around just like I'm king but no one's gonna mess with me'cause it's Wakanda and I'm the Black Panther and I don't know, it's really cool. Kia. Thank you.

Uh Danny next on your list. Um I have a bunch of just little points. It's your time. I did write down about Ludwig. I love I love the piece that he does with the singer Baba Mall.

The African Singer, where it's his voice, the kind of African voice singing. And there's a part I I was listening, I watched some stuff with Ludwig and he was talking about recording with Baba and The part he's singing in the beginning where they're flying into Wakanda is singing about an African elephant that died and it was like the king of the tribe. I was like, damn, that's like there's no way anyone unless you spoke whatever language, um

uh he's singing in to know what they're singing about, but it sounds incredible. I just really love that little bit. Um, Umbaku barking at Bilbo. I mean, that was that's like a that's a top tier MCU moment. Yeah. Um I mean also that barking when they he enters the fight towards the end is is amazing. I do find that fight kind of dumb, if I can be honest. I don't like that big battle on the field. It's kind of it's terrible. A little bit weak sauce.

It's so much. I honestly forgot that that was the final act. I was like, what's the f like when that fight was happening, I was like, there's gotta be like another forty minutes left, right? Because this isn't the final fight, is it? It's pretty low key and maybe we're conditioned to expect some major thing. Yeah, I mean it's just the it's just a few tribes, but yeah, it's it's okay. The rhinos are here. Yeah.

Um, I actually do love the sunset scene. I don't think it looked incredible, but like I said, it's it's whatever. Nothing holds up anymore. But I think I just like the conversation between um T'Challa and Killmonger. when he was like, We can probably save you, but he's like, Then you'll just throw me in jail and what good is that anyway? But I just, you know, it's really good.

I'm I'm not changing my stars. I'm gonna stay at five stars for this. It's it is my favorite MCU film. Um, and I it really is because of the cast. I love this cast, I love the story, I love the direction of this. I love the score and I still have all my critiques about it not holding up. I really can't stand Andy Circus in this. But there's something about this film that I'm just kind of in love with. I really love this film so much that I have refused to watch Wakanda forever.

Yeah, well, Connor Forever was tough was tough to I can't imagine watching it. It's tough because you're like, how do you even return. Like how do you go on? You know, and that that's a question, I guess, in many ways, but like the the machine rolls on and how do you do it? There's like a there's a few scenes in Wakana Forever that are absolutely jaw dropping gorgeous.

that I think I wrote in my review that like I wish the movie was just like a short film and it was just like these gorgeous shots that Kugler did to just signify like the grieving process and the final fight and that's it. But there's the whole thing about like Namar Oh my god, I forgot that was in there. It's just like we don't need to. Jesus. You know? We don't need to. Prot, honorable menches?

Uh I've wrote down Wakanda is a Naboo homage. Mmm. I felt like I was getting Naboo vibes. Is Nabu white Wakanda? Some are saying. Uh the first fight with in the the ceremonial fight. where he fights I guess that's Winston Duke. The bone cracking sounds that is happening. As they're punching each other, they're both dead or paralyzed. Like they're breaking each other's spines with these sound effects. There's no way.

Also, that is some bad CGI t there too. That scene where like the all the people like on the waterfalls. Mm-hmm. It's like Hollywood Squares. Opinion. I thought that that was like, oh, is this a physical set? And they like maybe up to a point. And then they CGI'd like, you know, the rest above. Um, I feel like that was like all built, right? But it just looked weird. Well, it could be, but then like the water is clearly CGI around them. So it just yeah.

Uh another revelation. Is Martin Freeman a British John Krasinski? It's funny because I'm the same character in the office. Oh my god. That's right. That's weird. I forgot about that. Uh I'll take you both, Uncle James. L O L. I wrote that down. Dorky line from our boy. Um yeah, Michael B. Jordan is a dork. I actually wrote that down. Jesus. I know. Freeman becoming a pilot, kill me. I wrote that down too.

Like, how many Marvel movies do we need to have somebody become a pilot and save save the day? Enough. Um yeah, unfortunately this doesn't really do much for me. I feel like it just suffers from everything. most Marvel movies suffer from. And forty minutes in I was hurting. Jesus. I was in pain. Um And nothing can nothing could save me. So I'm at two stars. God Uh Pearl can be reached at seventy EM pod at gmail. I thought you were about to give his cell phone number.

Um let's see. Um Yeah, I mean when this came out I had not seen Creed, had not seen I still haven't seen the first movie. Was it Fruitville Station? Fruitville Station. So I had no idea who Ryan Cooler was. I mean, Kendrick Lamar curated the soundtrack, right? I had no crazy. At that time, I probably still had no idea who Kendrick Lamar was. Um, I thought the flashback King Tachaka looks sick. Like he just appears in that room and he's got the suit on. The sash. Yeah. Awesome design. Um

Pfff Angela Bassett. We haven't even really talked about her. Dynamite. I loved her gray hair too. Ruth E. Carter costume design. I thought she was doing production design, but someone else is listed, so I'm not sure. Maybe she had a costume. The club scene when the music when the beat drops. The weekend. Remember the weekend? Remember cocaine? Uh the ancestral plane is cool. I love the like the purple kind of sunset vibes. Really fun.

Um Winston Doak Goat. Winston Duke Goat, I wrote in my notes. Absolutely. I love the car chase. Really? I I have a lot of fun with that car chase. Okay. Um It's not great. He spills the beans about Wakanda to the Hobbit. Uh Dragging his body with the sun behind him. I think that was af oh yeah, when he brings kill when he brings um claw to to Wakanda, that was that looked like a great shot. I mean daytime shots. Who knew? Um when the when the guards fight Killmonger, let's go.

Yeah, I I th this movie honestly flew by. Like I said, like when that final the Rhino fight scene is happening, I was like, What uh what happens after this? I don't even remember. And then nothing happens after that. So um that's a positive, but then also a negative that a you know, potential negative, like

It's not a big fight scene, but at the same time we're also like saying how much we love this being a standalone, quieter film. So I feel like that was a pretty low key fight scene. But I mean, were all those people just dying? Right? Like people were getting killed in this fight. Yeah, they were stabbing them with swords. Spears. How are we gonna recover from this? We're killing people. We're killing each other. Over a killmonger. Mm-hmm. Civil War. Interesting.

Um I'm I'm leaving my rating. I uh the CGI stuff, it it's just suck. But staying at four and a half stars. Had a great time, great music, great cast, great acting. Um and I kind of like just completely forget about his scenes in Civil War before this because that was like his first debut. But then also I don't remember really anything from Endgame or Infinity War. So

One day, one day we'll go back. Proto, if there w if you had to pick right now a MCU film to cover on this podcast, what would you pick? Let me look at the list again. My god. Not even top of the head. Nothing comes up. I think the first Avengers movie would be really fun for us to do. No. No. No, no, no. That is a cultural moment. It's a huge moment. It's not good. Loki. Remember Loki?

I do remember. Um, I mean maybe the maybe the first Iron Man, but I don't even want to watch RDJ. Dang, you are out You're done with RDJ. He hasn't done what has he done that has uh uh perturbed you? Opp Oppenheimer? No, I I mean any of his Iron Man movies. Yeah. He is so annoying in all the movies. Yeah, I mean if if Proto thought Michael P. Jordan was annoying. Yeah. I mean his Civil War scenes, oh my God.

People remember when they deep faced him in those movies? In the when they showed the flashback with his dad? Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. That was like a legendary scene. Like they've de-aged RDJ. Never been done. I thought Civil War was pretty good. No, it's true. That's my only memory of Civil War. I feel like I remember it being pretty good. No. Winter Soldier? The big reveal of a banger. Winter Soldier's a banger. Well, you're talking about the movie or Civil War?

Not our actual American Civil War. I'm talking about the movie Civil War. Yeah, no, that movie's Civil War. But Captain America Civil War is a banger. Oh, Winter Soldier was the Russo's first uh Marvel movie? Yeah, that was the tail end of um Joss Whedon's reign. You get we can dig out like one movie with the Russo brothers, and we're like, get this idiot out of here. Just give the rest of these movies to the Russo brothers. Look where we are now.

I mean, they left and everything turned to S. It's a good point. It's a good point. All right, that's Black Panther. Uh we're kicking the month off. Next week is my back. Uh let's see. Let me pull it up here.

Um my pick, we need to laugh again. Yeah, someone's got to laugh. Okay. 2009 Black Dynamite, Michael J. White, uh, Scott Sanders. I've said it on the show. I've been quoted as saying one of the funniest movies I've ever seen. And uh now's your time to hopefully agree with me. Black Dynamite is the greatest African American action star of the 1970s. When his only brother is killed by the man, it's up to him to find justice.

We will laugh again on this show. Okay? That's a promise. That is a promise. Okay. Proto, any closing thoughts? Oh god. Um Let me give a movie recommendation. Bicentennial man He's calling me Robin Williams. Ha ha ha. You want to see another man in a suit, you can watch that one. How funny would it be one month we just it's bicentennial man month and we cover it four times or th maybe three times. We just do it for three weeks in a row.

When's the last time you've seen Bison Denial Man? I think it would be a very fun social experiment for us to do the same movie three weeks in a row. Good big Patreon vote is just bicentennial, man. I'm I'm considering this. I'm considering this. We know you are.

Wait, isn't it our bicentennial of the of the show? No, of the the country. America? Oh wait, no, what what's bicentennial? Oh, that's every a hundred? Is that everyone? We celebrate the country's bicentennial with three with an entire month of bicentennial, man. Perfect. I'm just saying, consider it. If you're listening and you think this is a good idea, at me on Instagram or in Discord and say Bicentennial Man yes. Hashtag Bicentennial Man Yes. We have a letter, Slim.

Oh. Um okay, thank you. Danny just wants me to stop talking about the bicentennial man. Before you forget again. Did I do this VM from Tom? Do we listen to that? That's what it is that's what I was talking about. Oh, there's two. There's two letters then. So you missed one.

Uh Ron writes in about Black Panther. Hey guys, I work at a zoo and my coworkers and I often talk about what animal abilities we would want since you're covering Black Panther. If each of you were an animal themed superhero, what animal would you choose? to put it in JMS spider terms, Spider Man terms, what would your totem be? Nothing but love for the three of you in the village. JMS is a

Mm j John Michael Straczynski. Go. Is it John? Is it JM Strazynski? J.M. Infamous writer of Spider-Man comic books. Part of your thoughts on um that question. Um well I think I would I would want to be like a bird, probably like a falcon, but I've always seen myself as a turtle. It's just like when I picture myself as an animal, okay, I'm a turtle. So I feel like if if, you know, your totem like something you don't really have control over necessarily, I'd probably be a turtle.

You would be a turtle. Hmm. That was the question, right? Yeah. Just to give an update on the voting for Bicentennial Man, uh we have one vote in live chat bicentennial man, yes. That's all we need. If you're in line, stay in line. Genie, what animal would you be? Man. I would lean bird too, but I think I'm still gonna stick with bird. When you say bird, it sounds like you spelled B-E-R-D. Bird. Bird. Yeah. Um But I will go with uh my favorite, the American Kestrel. Oh, that's a good pick.

Bird of Gray. B E R D of Prey. Um What an animal I mean I'd probably pick a dog, let's be honest. Man's best friend. Greatest animal to ever live. Like a dog. On this planet. Um what kind of dog? Not sure. Rescue. Mutt. We have a VM from Tom about a movie we covered what feels like six months ago. Hi boys, it's Tom Mook here. I had a big trip ahead of me. I had a four hour drive and I was moving house. We're moving up north. And so I hired a biggest van I could legally drive.

and thought I'll set up a couple of new seventy millimeter episodes to keep me going on the journey. Looking forward to it. My first stop was just at the uh petrol station around the corner. and um I used the wrong kind of nozzle for this massive van that I've got and diesel gasoline just shot right back at me all down. my clothes and um soaks through my shirt and now I've got like a three hour drive ahead of me. And then uh

Nothing I could do about it. Sorry, I put on the umbrellas of Cherbourg. The car was stinking up. with this uh gasoline smell. And um then I hear you talking about the vapes. And do you know what? I think you might be onto something. It kind of turn me around from being all depressed and sad and feeling like I was gonna die from the poisonous fumes in this little cabin um into something that

Actually maybe it is a nice smell. Maybe I've been wrong all these years and I actually started to enjoy the way I smell. So um so yeah, let's let's get onto it. I'm I'm ready to buy. Wow. Ready to buy. The first customer. We're ready to ship. Ready to buy. Open up the bay doors. Let's ship them out. Hmm.

Thank you, Tom. That's great to hear, Tom. I think that's still our clip of the year so far. Gasoline vape talk was great. Can we get a uh Muppet clip about us talking about gasoline vapes? My God. Proto's subversive uh videos that he's putting on our Instagram crack me up. I mean the w I don't there's no one making videos that That is of the level that Purdo is producing. Well, I mean you guys refer refused to go on video, so uh I had to find another way. And to find another way.

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