A.I. Artificial Intelligence

Hey, it's your old pal Slim, and this is 70 Millimeter Podcast for movie lovers just like you. Disclaimer at the top of the show, we're not experts, but we do love watching movies. With me each and every episode is my close friend and artist, Danny Haas. Hello. And our close friend and movie insider, Portalexis. I thought I was one of a kind. Every movie that we cover is connected to a theme for that month, and this time it was Mount Goatmore.

We're creating our own version of Mount Rushmore, a monument in honor of the greatest of all time. We'll announce the first ever edition in this episode, and you can use the chapters in your podcast app to skip to our main discussion from 2001. artificial intelligence. You think people are thinking right now it's Spielberg? Of course these idiots pick Steven Spielberg. Was it ever in doubt? I knew it. Well, guess what? You're wrong. William Hurt. Take us down, Spotify. I dare you.

It's time to announce the first edition to the very first monument. Is it too loud? It's not even loud for me. I can't even hear you. How about now? That's better. Thank you. I can't even hear it in my headphones. I wonder why. Now they're thinking it's John Williams. John, just shut it off. Shut it off, John. I just waved to John in the room to shut it off. This is the first ever...

award in the show history. It's like I said earlier, it's like Mount Rushmore, but for movies. We got a nomination on IG from The Jetty. Dear friend of ours, Photoshop Maestro. Meme master. Meme master. Honestly, it all fell into place. We sent the nomination in our DMs and we all just kind of like fell over. Co-founder of Amblin. First produced movie was E.T.

Then Jurassic Park, the franchise, later oversaw the sequel trilogy, Rogue One, Andor. Are you getting it now? It's Kathleen Kennedy, folks. Yeah. I mean, honestly, when you think about it, was it ever in doubt? When you look at the show and the movies that we've covered, Danny, what did you think about when this came up?

Oh, I knew it was perfect right away because I love Kathleen dearly. Anytime I watch a Spielberg... making of uh she's there by his side producing these films and uh when i even watched the the making of for ai she's in these as well producing and working with Spielberg, and it's, you know, I love her. I love Kathleen. Yeah. Do you love Kathleen, and how much? I do. You know, when I think of Kathleen, you often think, you know, did Steven Spielberg make...

Did George Lucas make himself the John Williams? Did these guys do it all alone? No. Or was there someone else, someone in the shadows, who helped them become who they were meant to be?

you know, like the fuse. Did she, did she like the fuse for all of these men? It's a great question. Well said. I mean, let me just pull up this copious list that Dale has, has printed out and put it on our desk. Uh, Executive producer of Gremlins, The Goonies, Back to the Future, Back to the Future 2, 3, Gremlins 2, one of the most bizarre and amazing films ever created.

Cape Fear, Schindler's List, Signs, Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, which we have now deemed goaded since we covered that movie. Agreed. And those are just the executive. Regular producer, ET, Color Purple, The Money Pit, Empire of the Sun, arachnophobia. Hook. Jurassic Park, Bridges of Madison County. I'm not going to name them all, folks. We don't have time. No tape. We have other things to do on this episode. So...

Kathleen Kennedy, congratulations. I know that she was off on assignment. She couldn't join us. She didn't have the time to send us a video recording or a piece of audio. She's very busy. Probably relaxing after Andor, to be honest. Kicking her feet up. Yeah, you deserve it. Enjoy the win a little bit. Enjoy the dub.

And hopefully this 70 millimeter dub of being the first one etched in stone in Mount Goatmore is making that relaxation just a little bit sweeter. We got a lot to get to tonight. We're doing AI in honor of Kathleen in tribute. We'll get into that at the bottom of the hour. But we also have to talk about next month. Next month's scene for July. It's almost July. Proto was just at the pool. You heard about this, Danny? Proto's at the pool.

What is he doing at the pool? It's happening. The summer. It's summertime. It's summertime. Yeah. Summertime. We're getting wet, you know? You got to get wet. As often as we can. I need everyone listening right now to get as wet as possible because we're about to talk about July.

We're doing Blockbusted again. Volume three, movies that underperformed at the box office. Actually, I forgot that we did this, but last time we did Blockbusted, it was movies that underperformed or overperformed. Oh, really? I wonder if that would have swayed any of our picks had we remembered that. Probably.

We had the whole month planned out. I already made the graphic. Danny did amazing graphic. Hopefully you folks are seeing that in chapters or on Instagram somewhere. In the past, the last time we did this, we did Sorcerer. Incredible episode. The Insider. Remember that? My Sorcerer 4K just shipped for Criterion. Hello. How much was that? That was probably pretty petty. 40 bones? I don't know. Was that a 40? I can't keep up.

Casey, shut it off. Don't even look. Don't look. Don't look at the PayPal records. We did The Insider with Alpha. And then I chose Godzilla Minus One. I need to rewatch that movie. And then, of course, we did Heaven's Gate. Remember that? Oh, my God. Heaven's Gate. The main thing I remember is the fiasco of me watching multiple versions of that movie and accidentally watching the same version twice and not realizing it.

So Danny, you're kicking off July with your pick. I am. I think when we talk about Blockbusted, I think if you had a Mount Goatmore of Blockbusted, I think... Costner would have etched himself onto the mountain for these. So we're going back to the well of Costner. Finally. The Postman. I've actually never seen The Postman. So I have no idea what to expect. I did watch the trailer before I picked, and I feel like we're going to have a lot to talk about just by watching the trailer.

What is it, like a dystopian future, but only the postman can save us? Well, everyone is like, have their own factions around America at this point. And he takes up the like... mantle I think of keeping communication up between all of these I don't know I don't know I don't know but he looks incredible it looks insane

So I'm excited. I'm excited to finally fire it up. I think I have the PBHS of it, actually. Have you seen his drip in this movie? Have you seen any of his costumes? I've actually seen this movie. I have a pretty good story. I mean, a classic story for the reason why I watched this when I was a teenager. So I'll say we'll have to save it for the show. Okay, awesome. Excellent. My pick is next, and I... Everyone calm down.

Oh, right. I just remembered your pick. Yeah, I know. Me too. It shocked me all over again. I had a few potential options, but one I am actually morbidly curious to watch. It felt like it had been coming out for maybe six years. It came out and had a terrible press kerfuffle because one of the cast stood against genocide. God forbid. But that's Snow White 2025.

Directed by the king, Mark Webb. This is streaming on Disney+. I almost, it's a 1.9 on Letterboxd. Oh my God. That's very low. I didn't realize that. Me neither. But. I almost put it on the other day. I was like, you know what? I kind of want to watch. What is this movie? Can it be that bad? Could Gal Gadot be that bad? Proto? In the movie or in real life?

I guess now we're all going to have to find out. So anyway, that's the pick. And then we were going even bigger. This is an event movie. We're pre-busting. We will all pre-bust during the third week of the month. We will be covering James Gunn's Superman. Yeah. The brand new picture. Yes, we're back in theaters. This could be an overperform. It could be. I was just going to say, yeah, please, let's all pray. Yeah. This overperforms a Superman? Yeah. A Superman overperforms? Okay.

Everyone, I feel like we've all been really excited for this movie to come out, but I think we're all getting slowly nervous. Yeah. I need James to stop talking. James is on the press tour. He's on the press tour. He's got the black and white photos. I don't know. I feel like you've always been nervous about this movie, Danny. I am because I feel like Superman is kind of hard. I mean, it took us, I think, I don't know. Superman's a tough one.

I'm nervous because I don't love Gunn either. I don't hate James. I think the first Guardians of the Galaxy is great. But then it just kind of, I don't know, the second and the third just kind of keep dipping for me a bit. So I get nervous. It's not just like James Gunn coming in and just doing a DC movie. We're kicking off like... The future. The future for DC. And I mean...

It's scary because I'm sick and tired of... You're nervous. I'm tired of not enjoying comic book movies anymore. So I'm like, I've been out of the game for so long. So put out with Marvel and DC. So I'm like, can we please jumpstart my love of comic book movies again? Please. We need a love again. Every time I see Skylar. Who? He's playing Jimmy Olsen in this. I get very excited for that.

I don't know how to say his last name. Dude is perpetually like 19. Yes, exactly. And I think he's so funny. Yeah, he's great. Especially in Booksmart. I'm excited for him as Jimmy Olsen. I think this is James Gunn's, this is his Zack Snyder moment, right? Because you think about it, Zack was in the same exact spot and then Man of Steel kind of predicted the next.

two or three movies that we kind of you know that we got from him like where his style was going someone who had complete creative control to tell the story they want i mean this is james gunn's moment right this is gonna tell us a lot about what's coming down the the pike i mean we we could be over performing but there's there's two sides of the coin so a lot on the line right now

Can't wait to get into it in three weeks, folks. We're so glad. The movie will be out, opinions will be flying, and we will settle in. It's only three weeks away. That's crazy. I'm sorry. I didn't realize that. I think it's way longer because we're doing another app next week. So maybe four and a half weeks out. Five weeks from now, we'll be doing Superman. Prader, you're wrapping up the month.

Oh, yeah. Big one. What's it going to be? My picture is Gattaca. Oh, my God. We're back in the 90s. Yeah, baby. I think it's 1997. Back to the postman, the year. Ethan Hawke. I mean, and then I, you know, I said in our DMs, this is we're getting back to back months with some say goat Jude Law. Yeah. You know, I mean, him and Gattaca can't wait to revisit this. This is a classic movie.

I've never seen this with my dad. Blow my mind at the time. I have a story for this one, too. I'm excited. Everyone's got a freaking story but me. What the hell? Give it time. Tony Shalhoub. Is this Tony's first appearance in the show? Ethan Hawke and Uma Thurman and Jude Law and Alan Arkin. That's a 3.8 on Letterboxd. That's pretty good for a busted. Letterboxd community showing some love.

I've never seen this. I've only heard of it. Oh, really? Oh, I can't wait to talk about it. I'm excited to watch. This is a big movie for me. That's cool. Formative? I mean, this is right up there with Stargate. Oh, my God. Okay, so that is July block busted volume three. That is, we've got a lot done so far. We've announced the first edition to Mount Goatmore.

Kathleen Kennedy, a tribute tonight. Block busted, and let's check the time. We have some time here. Yeah. Party, you were in the press corps. You went to see a big one early before everybody. Oh, yeah. As of recording. Yeah, I put my press hat on, went into Philadelphia. I got to bring my little brother along, John Mark, and we saw 28 years later. Goodness. The new one from Danny. Danny Boyle. The master. Written by, of course, Alex Garland.

The Master Returns. Another one. So, I mean, really, this is like the, we have a 28 weeks later, but that wasn't a Danny Boyle movie. So, in a lot of ways, this is like his sequel. Oh, Boyle didn't do 28 weeks? No. As far as I'm aware, he's like kind of ignored it. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. So this is like, and of course, this is the start of a franchise. Like, who would have thought? I don't know where you go with the name, though.

I mean, are we doing this? I think it's part one and part two and part three. This is the Force Awakens of the 28 Days Later franchise. I'm sorry. There's three 28 years later. This is kicking off a trilogy, Danny. A trilogy. I'm already out. I'm out. I haven't even seen the first two. Danny's already out.

Well, I think you should definitely watch the first one. And I think anyone who likes the first one will like this one. I think there's a good chance. I haven't seen the 28 Days Later in a long time, but from what I remember it. of that this movie is it it has the same like visual style of course you know danny boyles kind of his movies are all shot in a similar way um with his partner cinematographer um

But it definitely seems like it's grown. It seems to be a lot of drone work in this that is pretty cool. Oh, hello. Yeah, so the landscape shots are great. Ralph Fiennes is great in this. So I think it's a good movie. If you're trying to get out of the heat, get in the theater, 28 years later, gave it three stars, had a good time.

Yeah, I am seeing a lot of varying reviews about like the first act is something, the second act is something, and then the third act is like people going WTF. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. In like the last 10 minutes, somebody behind me said, this is the worst movie I have ever seen. And it's definitely not that bad. Press from the New Yorker.

I'm excited to see it. Hopefully I can trick Amanda into seeing it, but I want to rewatch the... Why do you have to trick her into seeing it? This isn't in her vibe. Going out to the theater when they have like 30 minutes of previews. This is a difficult conversation to have. Yeah. Why don't you time it right? Yeah, but sometimes if you can't time it right, you look foolish. You miss something. Maybe there's another 20 minutes. I don't know. You've gotten burned both ways.

Yeah. Got it from both ends. I can't stand getting it from both ends anymore. I did get a win recently. We watched Friendship with Tim Robinson. This guy is the bell of the ball. He's got that television show. What's the television show he's called? Hold on. I think you should leave with Tim Robinson. Do you guys watch that? No. Have you ever seen that? A little bit. I've seen GIFs.

I got a lot of GIFs. Lots of GIFs. A lot of GIFs. The hot dog suit. Tim Robinson might be known more as a GIF than anyone in internet history at this point. It's Tim and Michael Scott. Right? Yeah. And maybe the not like this gif from The Matrix. But it's, if you liked his comedy, I think you should enjoy this movie. It's him and Danny's boy, Paul Rudd. My boy. Just kind of like being neighbors and becoming friends. And then it goes south and Tim Robinson reacts to that.

I was dying watching this in several scenes. I was like guffawing. I just, the score is shockingly good and fits really well. Tim Robinson did not write it. This was like written for him. In my review, I said he's like a mix of Kirk Van Houten and Pee Wee Herman. And I was really proud of that. Who's the first person you saw? Kirk Van Houten is Milhouse's dad from The Simpsons. Oh, Simpsons reference. But the Pee Wee Herman stuff, I...

Maybe people have said this already, but his style of comedy and just his mannerisms, he feels like Pee Wee Herman's cousin somehow. There's just some kind of connection there that hopefully someone will write a long-form essay on. But I had a lot of fun. Four stars. Amanda did not like it. I turned back to her and she's like, I don't get it. And that was it. Thank you, Amanda. And we went our separate ways that evening.

Wow, you're blowing my mind with this Pee Wee Herman parallel now. I totally see it when I think about him. It is so weird. It is. It like stuck with me for half the movie. Like, am I the first person to ever notice this? Even the way he kind of like tilts his head. Yes! Oh, boy. But it's definitely worth the viewing. I saw the reviews for this come in.

you know from our friend group it was like a pretty big mix of like three and four but it's like a low budget low stakes comedy um kind of reminded me of like i like movies in terms of like low budget stuff like kind of this would have been like a dvd hit to put it put it one way but that kind of world is gone now it's just like comes out in theaters and it's gone forever yeah

Danny, what about you? You know, I'm gearing up for F1 next week. F1 the movie. So I watched two race car movies. One from 2023, Gran Turismo. and I believe I think a lot of us did watch it because of it having a trailer for like three years straight in front of every movie we saw I think there was the line about

throwing up on my track or something that was in the trailer that everyone hated. So I never watched it. I didn't really care. I'm not a PS PlayStation person, so I never played the game. So I have no connected to it. So I just kind of bailed on it after everyone whatever.

So I fired it up this week. I actually had a good time watching it. I didn't know it was a true story that they set up this kind of... tournament or race challenge for these kids who were really good at the game to be able to move on to this racing academy that Nissan put on to be able to actually race these cars. in actual GT races. And I think...

I think knowing it's a true story made me kind of engage with it a little bit more than I probably would have if it was just some random story. So I kind of enjoyed that. I think the acting was fine. The race scenes I thought looked great. There's a great little montage at the end kind of showing the true story bit. And I just kind of liked it. I liked the story a lot. And I had a great time watching it.

I'm not going to recommend it to people who don't love race car movies because I don't think they would actually enjoy it as much. I did find it cool that the actual true story of the kid, he still races. He's raced over 200 races, and he was the stunt race car driver for the actor in the movie, which I thought was pretty cool. That is nice. So anyway, I had a good time watching that, and then I fired up Days of Thunder.

Just an absolute delight of a film. Everyone is just smoking hot in that movie. My God. Greasy, sweaty. Tom's jeans. Yeah. Nicole. Dr. Nicole Kidman. Kid me? Had a great time watching Days of Thunder as well. So next, I think next Wednesday, I'm off to see F1 the movie.

That was my week so far. How about them rumored to be doing a Days of Thunder sequel? I mean, listen. Can they do it again? Can they run it back? Can we get Tom and Nicole back? I don't think Nicole's going to want to come back. I mean. If she did, though. If she did, then Tom is going to be canonized a saint. for somehow getting his ex-wife to come back for Days of Thunder 2. He offers her a paycheck she can't refuse. I mean, honestly, she only does movies.

directed by women these days. I think that's like one of the main things she pivoted to. So I don't think that's going to happen. Well, Greta Gerwig's Days of Thunder. Oh my God. Did you realize that the Gran Turismo was directed by Neil Blomkamp? I didn't want to say it. You didn't want to bring it? We don't have to. We don't talk about it. We don't have to talk about it. Internet darling. What was once? Blockbusted.

What are you talking about blockbuster? What are you talking about a buster? Phillip and Katie joined our Patreon this week. Four bucks a month. Got access to our Discord. where our movie community is and uncut episodes. They get uncut episodes right after we're done recording, usually about 30 more minutes or so in the post-show. And we're going to try something different. We might...

We might include that in the regular episode that goes out to the public. So if you're listening to the end of this episode and you see that there's some time left, then maybe stick around. Because we get into some hot topics like fried chicken. Elon Musk. Yep. Costco. Yep. Ice. Nope. We'll get it. Walter Goggins. Goggins. That's what we're going to get into in the post show, folks. So if that's what you're craving.

then Patreon is where you need to be. But we need to talk about the main course from producer Kathleen Kennedy from Mount Goatmore.

Broadcasting live episode 269. Nice. AI artificial intelligence. Proto, what's this movie all about? In the near future, human simulacrum.

has been achieved in the form of robotic servants lovers and anything humans require one company decides to build a robot child that can love david an 11 year old boy fills the hole for a couple that has had their only son in a coma imprinted on his mother monica to love her unconditionally for as long as he is conscious david must make sense of his existence when he is discarded can david become real and love his mother again or does david's love make him real ai my god

John. John, please. John, not now. Please. We'll get to your music in a minute. My God, he's so annoying. AI, artificial intelligence. What was the year? 2001. Big year. Graduating high school. Alive. Yeah, I was graduating high school as well. You were just getting into eighth grade, I would assume. Yeah, something like that. Do you have memories of AI artificial intelligence part of this movie? What is your, what's your first memory? Oh man. I want to say I saw this in theaters, but I'm not.

I'm not sure, but I can definitely remember watching this with my dad and this having an effect on me. I think this was a movie that I found confusing at the time. but it's kind of stayed in my mind for a long time. And I've always continued to think about this movie. When it comes up, it's really fascinating to me. So I definitely have seen it.

more than once before this and saw it with my dad but this was like a movie i mean my dad is you know he's a sci-fi nut so uh you know this and the conversations that it would spawn after it uh were good times What's it going to take to get your dad on the show? The Matrix reduct. Just remembering this. I have questions. Proto thought for a good 10 seconds about what he wanted to respond with. I don't remember seeing this in theaters. I feel like I was just not interested in this movie.

At any point, I have vague memories of Stanley Kubrick. This is Stanley Kubrick's movie, and Spielberg is doing it for him. they're old friends and you know how different is it is it the same what would he have done um right before this let's see 1997 jurassic park the lost world 1997 as well, Amistad. 1998, Saving Private Ryan. Cripes. When everything changed.

Interesting. And then 2001 was his next feature film, AI, Artificial Intelligence. And then I actually was confused by this. I couldn't remember if Minority Report had come out before this or after because... the visuals in this it feels like it takes place in like the minority report cinematic universe totally the lighting and everything um and before someone yells at me why didn't they mention the cinematographer

Janice Kaminsky. Janice. Janice Kaminsky. He's been with Steven for a long time. Yeah, I mean, God. Yeah. Look at all these movies they've done together. Look at this. Christ. So I think the first time that I had really watched this as an adult was probably for the Letterboxd show. Rest in peace. The Letterboxd podcast. Disclaimer, I work for Letterboxd, but I don't speak for Letterboxd. I do.

And that was the first time I'd ever really seen it. And I was pretty shocked by what I saw. Do you have memories of this movie? I actually have no memories of this movie. And I know I've never seen it before. There's a... For Spielberg being such a stronghold in my life, there's a gap. like a high school, early 2000s gap of Spielberg that there's a few that I haven't seen and I really have never been drawn to go back to. AI was kind of like one of them and I...

I feel like, I don't know. I just wasn't interested, really, in this film. I didn't know about the Kubrick stuff until, you know, getting more into movies. But I... I was spinning with the logo. I love this logo so much. I don't know. I'm going to get this logo tattooed on my body. I love it so much. I love when it's animated and he steps out of the A. It's great. It's a fantastic logo. It's smart.

Other than that, I've never seen this. This is my first viewing. William Hurt. I mean, when will he be added to Mount God War? William Hurt, you know? I mean, the list of goats in this movie alone that we could generate. It's insane. I mean, the first ballots. First ballot goat. What a silly sentence. let's see who wants to start it off pro do you want to start it off what's what's the top of your list for ai artificial intelligence the top of my list uh the first thing i thought of during

The speech at the beginning that William Hurt gives, and when that came on, I was like, oh man, this is iconic. I remember this scene so vividly and being so like...

Just being really drawn into this movie immediately with the way that it looked, the things that Hurt is saying about artificial intelligence and robots and love, and just being totally... taken by by how this is set up the thing that struck me this time is he gives the speech you know about we're going to make this child it's going to love uh and not because it's like imitating love but because it actually does love yada yada and then it flashes 20 months later and i feel like when i saw this

Seeing this in 2001, I would have said, this is so ridiculous. There's no way that they would have a robot child in 20 months in production that somebody could use. But watching this in 2025 and seeing how AI has... has sped ahead and the companies that are in charge of it i'm like

actually, yes, this makes perfect sense that someone would put a product out like this in 20 months. Here's a robot child that will love you and be attached to you forever. You want to try it out? Like, it's so absurd, but it makes sense. Yeah, maybe this is like Sam Altman and Johnny Ives' company, the $6 billion company. This is the product they're on. Well, hearing William Brown, I was thinking like,

who do we have now? We have Sam Altman, like trying to give speeches like this, you know, like wax poetic about it. And it's like, dude, just shut up. Yeah. I love that speech at the beginning too. And I, I wrote this word down, I think. the most modern like time that i've heard this word is from apex legends because one of the characters is a robot

But it's simulacrum. I wrote it down in phonetics because I never know how to pronounce it. Maybe everyone has a different pronunciation of simulacrum. It's like such a sci-fi word. You don't really see people say that in like day-to-day conversations. But yeah, that speech was, was cool. I liked how they're talking in that scene about like how.

maybe even before this but the ice caps melted greenhouse gases have like you know sunk manhattan but like there's they're all still based in like new jersey that's the one thing i couldn't figure out how is new jersey How did New Jersey survive, but like New York is underwater for the most part? Right? They're talking about Trenton. They're talking about Haddonfield. Like, shouldn't that be underwater too?

Yeah, maybe it's a little fuzzy in terms. Yeah, but totally. Well, also, like, where is it? Well. No, yeah, you're right. I mean, New Jersey's got to be underwater, right? Right. It has to be underwater. I didn't rent.

quite get that but I thought it was still cool that like they're referencing all these like cyber is it called Cybertronics of New Jersey something like that should make a hat but I mean this is our future right Like this, these companies just building robots, like what they say, they capped child, they capped, they capped having kids and all the jobs were replaced by robots.

We're kind of getting there. There's some scary moments listening to the AI conversations in this. Yeah. But then also that like... most of society seems to revile the robots for taking their jobs. They took their jobs. Flesh fare. Yeah, it's, I don't know. It's... It's possible, folks. One thing about that intro conversation, I was glued to him the whole time. When he activates her... core thing. It still looks pretty damn good. I was actually shocked how good it looked.

I think that kind of set the tone for the rest of the movie because I was kind of cringing at seeing a year 2001 AI movie that you know is going to be full of CG. And for that to be the intro to the androids of this film, I was like, hell yes. This looks great. I was shocked. There's so many of those scenes that they nailed. later in the movie at the flesh fair where the nanny bot turns her head sideways. It's like, obviously like flex a little bit here. That looks incredible.

I vividly remember the trailer having that and being like, whoa. That was like the whoa moment. And yeah, you're right. I mean, this is 20, almost 25 years old. 2000, there's a lot of crap from 2000, 2001. We have Spielberg money that was a Kubrick script and you get ILM to do it coming off of...

episode one. So it's like everyone's, you know, chomping at the bit. Right. Was it Dennis Murin who I saw in one of the making of's who the main reason I even know that name is from the ILM documentaries. Yeah. But then also they had Stan Winston there. Oh, Stan Winston's, his robot. There's like 45 different robots. Like insane. That whole flesh fare is like six feet.

off the ground and there's like all these guys controlling the puppets under it which is insane to me yeah the walking teddy bear was bonkers I can't get over that. It's a puppet. There's so few CG scenes of the bear that it was shocking how well this puppet was made. Yeah. Goated bear. There's a clip of Haley talking about it riding his back, and it's like a 30-pound bear because it's someone controlling it with all the wires.

I love Teddy in this. I forgot, like, as soon as I started watching it again, I was like, oh, hell yes, Teddy is in this. I love you, Teddy. I wrote down in my notes that it was... I said Teddy Giamatti because I thought it was Paul Giamatti doing the voice, so I thought it was Paul. Who does the voice? It's this voice actor. That was just the voice actor? Yeah, Jack Angel. He was in a lot of Toy Story movies.

When she was like, his name's Teddy, I'm like, Stanley. We could have found not Teddy for a bear's name at this point in 2001 or whatever year this movie set in. Yeah. yeah love Teddy the making of stuff with Teddy is so cool they have like the wires set up and people were just wearing like blue outfits and they're just like moving his legs like oh my god everyone working on this movie is so talented it's nuts

I don't know if you're jumping around, but the scene where they are in the city and... joe gigolo joe is showing him around he's like doing his little dance moves or whatever and they see the um what's the is it dr no yeah dr no they show they like they're in that area And also just that entire city stuff just looks so fun and awesome. Insane. But they did this using the technique that I think we heard of in the ILM season two.

I think, but like when they're filming it, it's like all green screen, but they use the thing where like, they use a special camera where they see what they're going to want to put in the movie. Yeah. In the camera. So like the.

They're seeing everything that will like be close to final in frame. Was that like an episode one thing? I feel like we had just talked about that recently. I don't know because- When they were showing like the 800 discs on the ceiling that were tracking where people were walking and where the CG city was laid out.

I feel like all of the Star Wars docs from episode one would have shown this kind of tech. Because they show Spielberg being able to, like, see the city as their, like, in the camera. And then he could replay, like... rearrange how he's doing things based off of the angles he's getting with the backgrounds, being superimposed just in the camera he's watching. I feel like, I don't think George had that tech.

I could swear we, we watched some making of where I feel like I saw this technology and I couldn't remember if it was episode one or two, something we covered. Anyway, I was kind of, it was rocking my world. And then to find out. that even the CG backgrounds were miniatures still that were made that were just put in as well. Like the lady bent over building and all these wild buildings that they had to build.

Our props, they're still miniatures that they handmade, which were insane to me as well. There's one scene in the making of where they're talking about the Manhattan cityscape and like the tilted over building that's like in the water. That whole stuff wasn't amazing, but one of the guys refers to it as a computer graphics painting. Yeah, I heard that. I've never heard that phrase before in my entire life, and I was like, I fell over.

CGP. The old CGP. I was like, why did we never use that phrase ever again in the 20 years since this movie? Like, that sounds perfect for it. But yeah, that Manhattan stuff with like where the, where's the, where the lions weep. And then you eventually see that the statues. Holy God, that looks so cool. I mean the underwater set too. Of, you know, Geppettos and the Pinocchio and that kind of fair that they kind of submarine through. That's all practical sets, too. Like, blowing my mind. Yeah.

Top of my list overall, I mean, is Haley Joel Osment the greatest child actor who ever lived? Yes. I mean, we can- Can we settle it now? First ballot, good. It's crazy how good this kid is in this movie. There is a scene. I mean, there's so many scenes that I had, I like stopped in my tracks, even rewatching it. There's one scene where he's getting like, he has the conversation with William Hurt.

And he's like so gobsmacked about like all this bad news he's getting. I thought I was one of a kind. My son was one of a kind. You are the first of a kind. David? My brain is falling out. He's like, my brain is falling out. But the way he delivers it, he's like almost so emotionally stunted. He's like not even moving. And then there's a scene where... Teddy, like the future robots are telling him that like, yes, we can bring someone back, but we need a piece of bone or like, you know, whatever.

He's standing there like his head tilted and he's just like weeping. And Teddy is trying to get his attention. He doesn't move. He's like. Yes, Teddy. He's like so damaged emotionally. He doesn't even move. It's insane. Where was Oscar? Where the F was Oscar for this kid? It's crazy good.

That's literally my first no, is where's the Oscar for Haley? The scene that made me stop to Google if he was even nominated was in the very beginning when she decides to... implants on him or whatever they call what's the word is that the right word imprint thank you and she puts her hand on his neck and she starts saying the words And he has that smile on his face that goes from smile to...

I don't even know the emotion he's portraying, but it changes. He's inventing emotions. He's inventing, like, thank you. Yes, he's so good. He's inventing emotions. But it was like, he was like, the imprinting was like fully connecting with his mother. And his emotion that he portrayed in that scene, I'm like, pause. Was he nominated for an Oscar for this movie? And of course he wasn't. Of course he wasn't. There's no way they're going to give him an Oscar for this movie.

I was constantly blown away by him in this. There was never a moment where I doubted him as one of the greatest actors of all time. Not a moment. Yeah, it's like he invented what... a child robot would look like who could love you know i mean of course like this is my first experience with this robot child but the way he portrays it's like so believable and the way he performs as a robot is just nuts there's a scene early on i think

it's the first scene where he's sitting at the table having a meal and he's like imitating her right before he like laughs that like loud laugh oh my god his eyes like his eyes move back and forth in between the mom and dad. And the way it does it, it's like, it's like I've never, like, he looks like a robot, the way he's just moving his eyes and moving his arms, the way he communicates. It's so believable that it feels like he is a prop.

in the movie. Is this all CGI too? Is this kid real? There's an interview with him and he was talking and he said the hardest part for him through the whole process is he doesn't blink in the entire movie. And so he had to keep himself from blinking in all the scenes. That's so wild. I didn't even like clock that at all while watching the film. Gosh. Did you see too in the making of, you know, who knows how many years ago this plan was, but like they.

they thought about not using a real child. They thought about using like a puppet or a CG child. And I think Spielberg even says that like the puppet was like trash. Like their original like designs was like, this is not usable in any way. Like what world would that have even been? And also that would have made like the Pinocchio stuff even more obvious if they had done like a Stan Winston puppet or something. That would have been crazy.

Danny. Well, since we talked Haley, can we talk the Kubrick of it all? I was kind of, I think that part of like reading about the history of this kind of blew my mind because this goes back. He was developing this in the 80s, the mid-80s. And it wasn't until mid-90s when he contacted Spielberg about doing this film. He had, it was based off of... a book called Super Toys Last All Summer Long and Other Stories of Future Time by Brian Aldis. And this idea that

you have these two like absolute Titans talking to each other about a film to make and Kubrick approaching Spielberg to direct this. And Kubrick wanted to produce it at the time. And the thing that blew my mind was Spielberg pushing back and him saying, how about I produce and you direct it? And then it got to the point where it was like, we're not going to talk about this for a little bit, but they set up this. They set up a fax machine.

to where the two of them could fax the scripts back and forth to each other to talk about... Right, was it his closet or something? It was in Spielberg's closet. He didn't let anyone else kind of get the fax from Stanley, and they worked on it. That scene from Insider. I mean, Kubrick had over a thousand storyboards already produced, a 90-page treatment. And it gets to the point where Kubrick passes away and...

His widow contacts Spielberg and she says to her, this film will never see the light of day unless you make it. And so that's when he decided to make it in honor of... Stanley for his legacy. I'm just blown away by this story. It's fascinating to me that this kind of stuff happens behind the scenes. I think in our world now, this stuff... wouldn't we would know about it like right away like these people are talking it would get leaked or something right

but to have this idea that cubrick and spielberg were having these conversations about making a movie about artificial intelligence that he started developing in the 80s just kind of rocked my world learning that yeah Yeah, there was this, I think in the making of, they talked about the voice actor you mentioned, Proto, didn't even know what the movie was about that he was recording. He was just like sent the lines and that's it. Like there was like so much secrecy about.

Everything. I guess Kubrick was like that also, and his filmography, like NDAs, and you only got certain parts of the script and whatnot. I heard someone... I read online just someone talking about like how Kubrick like you can tell that it's a Kubrick script by how harsh it is. And then like mixing his like. worldview or viewpoint of how to tell this story. Because it is, I mean, it's a dark kind of tragedy the whole way through. But having Spielberg direct that movie, who is like, you know...

like the Amblin master and how this movie, it feels almost like a dark Amblin movie. Like it feels like an adult Amblin movie in those ways of just like how heavy the themes are. And it's such a crazy combination of like Kubrick's storytelling.

But shot through Spielberg. Yeah, and I think this is the only movie that Spielberg wrote and directed officially. I think that's what I read as well. And Spielberg had said... that because he had so many conversations with Stanley about the film and the script, that Spielberg translating that to someone else to screenwrite...

will have something lost in translation and won't keep the heart of what Stanley was trying to do. So Spielberg took, I don't know how many months, to actually write the screenplay himself. Which is still bonkers to me. I'm just changing the letterbox backdrop for this movie. I changed mine. That shot of Haley...

Through the like reflections in the glass. Oh. Like wrecked. There's so many shots that I'm like. There's so many insane shots like that where he looks through his own eyes. When he walked into his eyes. Oh my God. Insane shot. When she drops him off in the forest and a shot of him touching the car and it pans to the side mirror looking at him driving away. Holy Lord.

Yanis the all-timer. I mean, geez Louise, there's so much. And then that making out that he talks about it, like, you know, Stephen and I really like smoke. I think I like it a bit more than he does. But I mean, the imprinting scene is stunning. If that's the one thing that you've produced in your lifetime, it's that scene. It's still an all-timer that you can look back on, but there's just so many amazing scenes in this movie.

I mentioned the Minority Report aesthetic, but it's just like, maybe this is just like the Yanis, Janis, Steven, future aesthetic. And I'm all in for it, honestly. It's gorgeous stuff. The amount of talent to put these shots together is mind-blowing to me. Yeah, that was going to be my next point of just talk about it. Spielberg flexing on us this whole movie.

Yeah, the fact like there's so many stylistic, thematic shots, like just interesting, compelling things to look at throughout the whole thing. And it can kind of like feel overwhelming because I feel like in some other movies, like someone would go for one or two of these shots and be like, oh, that's a nice shot. But it's like the whole movie long. It's this. And the use of reflection. That they have, I mean, it's just like all the time.

There's this shot where he's watching her make the coffee, and just his face reflected off of the stainless steel countertop. I took a picture of that. There's so much stuff like that, of just him seeing himself, him being... uh you know sharded through glass or whatever it is throughout like the whole movie um it's and like it's so i mean it's beautiful because it's like it just looks great but then also the way it just layers over top

of just the story of like, this kid is a reflection of real people. And he's like searching after that. And you see it in front of you, visualized that way, the whole movie. It's just, it's so good. It's also wild to think about if Stanley directed this at some point. Like to think about when they get to Rouge City. To think it would be more like Stanley's clockwork kind of orange feel or just Stanley's aesthetic or his way of creating a film for this.

I think there may be, there's a reason why he probably reached out to Spielberg, really, because maybe his style would never have fit this. in the way he directs, but just thinking of an AI movie in Kubrick's universe just kind of rocks my world, too. Even the visuals of the 2000 years and the future stuff is awesome. Like them cutting through the ice to reveal like different squares of like the city and stuff. Oh my God. The design of the ship. Yeah. What? Even today that ship is like, what?

Yes. Yes. The way it all breaks apart when they land. It's so amazing. It's so amazing. Gosh. And that was after I thought the movie was done.

When he freezes in ice at the end, I'm like, oh, damn. This was the fourth ending. I know. And some people, I think, were like, I was thinking, as you guys were talking about, the visuals were gobsmacked by it. But people were... weirded out and like confused by this movie when it came out apparently like they were expecting some kind of like steven spielberg adventure action movie not this kind of dark you know thesis on belonging

And I think also people were thought that the ending was kind of hokey and like, oh, there's Spielberg's tacked on ending to whatever Kubrick wanted to do. But apparently that was like not the case at all. Like this is what.

Kubrick wanted the ending to be um and he didn't you know add any of that stuff but I definitely think this movie has been like viewed from a a different lens 20 years later yeah for sure at least in my opinion gosh um how about let's talk about like this ai robot doll mecca first of all i love just mecca Wish that caught on a little bit more. But, I mean, their son is, you know, what contracted some kind of disease without a cure. He's under, he's like frozen so they can solve it.

So this husband buys a child robot for his wife who is like perpetually grieving their frozen child. How do you not have one conversation about this before he brings the child robot home? Just one conversation. They're going into Divorce City at warp speed. There's no question they're getting...

They're not getting divorced. Oh my God. Your thoughts on bringing a new child into the house? I wrote in my notes, this dad effed up beyond the amount any husband has ever effed without telling her beforehand. Just insane. It's catastrophic. I mean, we've all been there, but never this bad. Never this bad. Oh my God. And on the flip side.

When the coma child wakes up and comes home, I was like, get this kid out of my face. Yeah, the real one. He's not replacing my Haley. He's not replacing my Haley. Get him out of here. Yeah, I wanted him gone as well. Get Forrest Gump out of here. I mean, she is like a wreck. Remember, like they had the private conversation. She's freaking out. Like he can never replace our child or whatever. It's crazy. And then the kid.

They developed the technology to bring their kid out of hibernation. I was just like, this could wreck her again. They have this kid that she's imprinted with, the robot, Haley. But man, oh God, I almost was like, you know, he's having these problems. Haley is with this brother, human brother. How do they not just bring him back for tech support? Where is tech support in any of this stuff? I woke up in the middle of the night, he had scissors, he was cutting something. He almost drowned my boy.

My real boy. Can we just take a look at him for a few weeks? Can you tell me what's going on? None of that happens. Yeah. Yeah. And this is like their prototype too. We're not getting any feedback from this at all. There should be a team living in the pool house. Johnny Ives should be there. With computer monitors reviewing everything all day long for this kid. It's so true. Oh, God.

Yeah, it's just, I mean, the genesis of like the movie is, you know, they even say it. Did I write it down? I propose we build a robot who can love. If a robot could love, what responsibility does the other person have towards that robot is asked from, I think, the Claudia Gator who was in Magnolia. remember she was interviewing tom yeah but it's such a fascinating question because let's presume that this happens tomorrow where you can buy a child or a person who can love

And like, this is kind of like some kind of, you know, grief process. Are you treating that like a human being? Yeah. Like a real person with a soul, if a soul exists. But it's just so fascinating. And what responsibility does everyone have to the robot and your relationship with that thing, whatever it is? I mean, it's crazy to think about. I don't know what the heck.

our modern society would do should it come to that i feel like they'll totally at first like i can't say how any other way this doesn't fall into like this is your property to start Like I could see it changing at some point, but I mean, we already have, we already have these, I'm reading stories, you know, every couple of weeks about guys falling in love with AI chatbots. This is already happening.

And it's just chat. Like, once we get an Android, it's over, right? But I can't imagine them saying, like, you owe anything to this robot that you bought. Like, you know, this goes to the Supreme Court. We can't even regulate AI. There's like no regulation on AI. Like imagine what it's going to be like if we could sell robot AI. Yeah.

like we're all screwed it took years for a multi-billion dollar empire of disney to just sue one ai company at this point and who knows where that'll even go we're so far behind like any sort of regulation at this point. But I mean, if a company can figure out, like A, I remember I was talking about like, if a company can figure out an AI chatbot that could just like be a friend or a girlfriend or a boyfriend.

I feel like we would solve so much problems because of like incel dudes who cannot get a real relationship and they just go south. I don't know. It's just so crazy to think about. It's so fascinating. Like what would... Would it be good? Would it be a net positive on society? Well, yeah. I mean, you think about it that way. Could everyone have a friend who would give the best advice, would always give you advice, and would actually be good?

Not just like good in giving you what you want, but yeah, like would actually be like your therapist. Like what if every single human in the next five years could have a personal therapist available to them 24-7, you know, who will help you in any area of your life? And that comes as just a service. That could change the world in a lot of ways. If your best friend is giving you the best advice all the time. But then you have to have who is writing.

Well, some of us have our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Okay. Dale, can you cut that out? Cut that. But then it's like, who is writing the program? Like, are you going to buy... Sam Altman's robot? Can you trust that team? Are you going to buy Grok from Elon Musk? What friend would you buy from Elon Musk?

So then I feel like we're back in the same place. Yeah, we're going backwards. We're back in circles. Remember his body gyrating in the interview where he was like tweaking out? His chest alone. There were better Stan Winston robots in this film than there are actual than Elon Musk's actual body. Stan Winston developed Elon Musk's body.

There's like 10 feet behind Elon is Stan Winston with a cable controlling his body. Just remote controlling his body. Danny, next on your list. Let's continue talking about... purchasing robots. And can you imagine ordering a Jude Law sex bot? Christ alive. Jude in this movie. Yeah. What's that cost? I know. I was about to say the same thing. How much would it cost to get that sex bot realistically? $30,000?

$50,000? You can't own one. That's why you got to rent it by that half hour. That's a rental. Oh, yeah. Okay, I see what you mean. It's definitely a rental. I mean, how much would an hour with Gigolo Joe cost, you think? I mean, that economy. I don't even know. I don't know. The polar caps have already melted. Right. What are we paying for these days? What is money? The robot has your jobs. That's right. What are people doing for money?

Realistically, if these robots are around. They get an allowance, I guess. And then they go spend it with Jiglo Joe. When will we have... What did he say? When you have... I wrote that down. Don't worry. Let me find it. Oh, I love that you guys wrote this down. Fucking say it. Let's see. I'm scrolling down. Where is it? Once you've had a robot, you'll never want a real man again. I was on my knees. Yeah, she was on her knees after he said that.

If you follow Lord have mercy. I love the making of talking about how they tried to make him, you know, a surreal robot. design and they couldn't quite nail it so they gave him like almost that prosthetic chin and then she wanted to make his hair look a little bit fake, so they put a mask over him and just spray-painted the edges of his hairline to make it look like it was completely fake. It really did. It looked great. She was a master at her job.

Actually, they didn't even clock in the film that they would have added anything to his chin. But when you see him in the chair and then they see him put the chin on, it's like, oh, damn. He does look like an android. Yeah. I saw his clothing. Design was pretty smart. It looked almost like doll-ish. And then I just loved the story of him with David throughout the film. I really loved him.

when he grabs his hand in the cage and they kind of have that quick connection. And he kind of is his protector for so long, helping him find the Blue Fairy. And I don't know if I've seen enough Jude Law. And I really need to dig into more than just the holiday of Jude Law. Skeleton Crew? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's Star Wars goaded at this point, too. What was the story? Was that that woman's husband who had killed her and then framed Joe for it? Yeah, I think it was the guy that he talked to.

downstairs yeah and then comes up so i think he killed her and so he he black or he sets up the robot oh he's he called oh he ordered joe to set him up for the kill that's why that's how i understood it Oh, I didn't catch that. I read it as just like he found out that his wife was having sex with Gigolo Joe. Oh. Because he asked her, he's like, when was the last time you saw her? And he says the time. But then as he leaves, he's like.

you killed me first, Joe. I've read that as like, you killed me when you were having an affair with my wife. Oh, crap. I didn't catch that at all. I just thought he was just getting framed for murder. Yeah, it happens real quick. How about the flesh circus? Flesh fair. Flesh fair. Gleason. Such a weird scene.

It almost takes me out of it for a bit. I think it does that for most people. I think of anything, that whole scene could have been cut from this movie and it'd still be okay. Maybe there's just a better way to do it because it goes from this...

Spielbergian that first act is like it's brilliant and then he gets dropped off into the woods and you go into this Mad Max kind of world of humans destroying robots for pleasure and it just i don't know visually it's like bonkers you have the chris rock being shot through a cannon it it goes off the rails for a bit for me

Yeah, it's such a shift after that first act where he's one-on-one. It's in this house with this mom and dad. It's very intimate. You're getting invested in the Monica story of it all. Where is this going to go with her? And then it just takes a turn completely until you feel like you're in a different movie suddenly. Why am I at a circus and Brandon Gleeson's here? It's just very strange.

Yeah, it is a strange scene, and I think I've come to appreciate it more on multiple viewings. I definitely would feel like, I think the first time I saw it, I was like, oh, this is kind of long. Why am I here for so long? Everything kind of sucks here. Everyone's dying. But the scene of the robots castaways finding parts under the moonlight was pretty cool and freaky.

Them actually casting amputee actors to make it look right when they're putting on arms. That's wild too. Yeah, so cool. The hound bikes. I totally forgot about that. That is so weird. That is such a weird turn. That feels like a design of Stan Lee's. It feels like a Schumacher. The lights on the guys driving the bikes, too. It felt like it was straight out of Batman. That was crazy. There are some things in this movie that...

I think looks so great. But then other things that remind me, it's like, oh, this is very 2001, especially like any of the computer monitors, like all had like rounded corners. Yeah. Like just that, like that. that weird look and like pastel colors and big buttons. I was like, this is so early 2000s. How about that guy just, remember like her?

like his team comes into a meeting room and Hurt is sitting in front of that computer and the guy's like talking to the computer. Like even, it just seems so painful. Like this seems like the least. desirable way to operate this computer in front of 20 people. Proto, final point? I forgot until watching it again. It's just the Pinocchio of it all.

And I think there's so many interesting ways that it's communicated. And just kind of like amazing that like, all right, it's this guy wrote it. Kubrick wanted to make it influenced how it was written. Steven Spielberg writes the script, but then it's also based on Pinocchio. It has so many layers in that way. And she reads Pinocchio to him. It's so meta.

Yeah, I mean, it's very, yeah, I mean, it's very, it gets very heavy handed with the Pinocchio stuff. I mean, like, you know, he's in the sub and it just says Pinocchio right there. It goes to Geppettos. But I did like how it feels. It does interesting things. It feels almost like the story is told in reverse, where in Pinocchio, he starts in the workshop in Geppetto's, and then he goes off to try to become a real boy. In this, it's more like he, at the beginning, thinks he's real.

And he's like with the person he wants to be with, but then he loses them. And then he ends up back at the workshop and kind of discovers. where he was made. So there's all, like, there's, like, little things like that of how it's twisted around. And I was trying to remember of, like, Jude Law. It's been a long time, but isn't like there's... Someone takes him to...

to like the circus, right? Like I, and that's like Jude Laws. Yeah. So that would be like Jude Laws character. And then even like, um, I mean, just even like the whale, you know, of like him diving in the sub going down. and Jude Law dying. So there's a lot of fun stuff with the Pinocchio story in this, even though I think it probably lays it on.

a little too hard i like i don't think we need the pinocchio signs at the end but i don't know in some ways i i get like the the you know it makes it feel very much more like a fairy tale yeah

Yeah, that underwater stuff looks great. How about Hurt tricking him into getting the answers to bring him back home? Because I remember the first time I watched this, I was like, how are they getting back to... to hurt like everything seems so perfect for this to happen like how did this even work and that hurts like oh yeah that was the one time we interfered we kind of gave you answers you needed um but yeah on multiple viewings the pinocchio stuff

definitely is more apparent for me but i still love it like i still love to see this kid robot yearning for you know, human connection with his mom. Like, I just want you to love me. And like him stuck underwater wishing to the Blue Fairy.

until his like power runs out who knows how long he was doing it for 2,000 years and then that could have been the ending of the movie and then there's 2,000 years later whatever robots evolve into up here and then there's like a whole other fourth act for the first time ever but there's a fourth act that whole sequence is nuts I feel like that

with the future robots and them like reading his mind or getting his data and sharing the data and how they can bring someone back. I love the fourth act. I love that, like, how he does get that one day with her after all that time. I texted Casey after I finished. I was like, I'll put money on it. That Slim cries at the end of this film.

I mean, it is like the movie is like your desire for human connection. And then like you lose someone. It like boiled down. He'd like, I wish I could just get one more day with that person. And he does get it. And he's like so content. I mean, the last few lines of them together. I'm going to cry. She wakes up and he's like, I found you. Unbelievable. And then her last lines.

I do love you. I've always loved you. And like, he can just go to like, I'm going to bed too. This is it. Like, I don't need anything else. Well, he dies, right? Like he achieves humanity, right? Yeah. That's like, that's his like. He becomes a real boy at that moment. He dies like the rest of us. But also, I mentioned earlier where he says his brain is falling out. Maybe the greatest line in any movie in the last 25 years. But...

His reaction to finding out that he's not unique and that he says, I thought I was one of a kind and Hurts like, you are the first of a kind. And then he sees the room of himself, and then there's a girl version of him as well in the boxes. It's just wild to think that... A robot could feel that way and then like have to continue on. And he doesn't want to continue on. I mean, he like jumps off the building. Yeah. Oh my God. Into the water. Yeah.

He says mommy right before he does. Yeah. At the beginning, like William Hurt asks, you know, or someone asked like if, if they can love, can they, does that mean they can also hate? Oh, I think that the dad says that. He's like, if it has the capacity to love, will it have the capacity to hate? And at one point he does say like, we hate Teddy, like he writes that down. But then also it's like, if you can love, can you be so lovesick that you have the capacity to kill yourself too?

And it's like, he does. It's wild. I love Jude's last lines too. Remember, he's like getting sucked up by the magnet. He says, I am. I was. golly I love there's so many things like that where you can tell that he has no fear of death as a robot and but it's so subtle and just like the way he talks about it where he's like he's always smiling like he's not worried at all yeah Dan, what did you think of the fourth act? I mean, the fourth act, I mean, anything past the flesh fair was...

you know, bringing me back around to falling back in love with this film. But that fourth act, after they bring him out of the ice, and he has that last day with his mom. I mean, I was just wrecked. I was absolutely wrecked. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I couldn't believe that it was actually added to this film because I honestly felt like it was over when that Ferris wheel falls on him.

traps him underground as he's wishing to the Blue Fairy. I'm like, damn, what an ending. That's wild. To have another 20 minutes of exposition and even have just introducing a new... robot alien sentient figure into the film in the last few minutes is wild but i i mean inject that final act into my veins him with his mom

blowing out the candles with like one candle left. It just wrecked me. Incredible stuff. Visually, it's stunning. The glow of it all, the Spielberg of it all at the end. It was, I mean, it's what I hope for. in every spielberg film i watch anything else on that final oh yeah um oh when the when the future robot says the space-time path for monica We cook it. I was like, this is amazing. This whole explanation of what's happening here. Oh, my God. I love that.

Yeah, the movie it reminded me of is actually the interstellar scene where Murph gets back to his mom, his daughter. He gets back to Murph and he sits down and holds her hand. It's like, did Nolan? Did Nolan take that from this? Another theft from Christopher Nolan. But so good. Good theft. I love artificial intelligence. One of my favorite movies. Whose turn? Final points. Are we in Menchies? Do you have any final points? I think, well, it can be a part of the Menchies. I mean, I'll just say.

The John Williams score in this kind of, I think this is like, I think strange is the right word. I think I was feeling kind of shocked by it. It's very... um subdued for i feel like john there's a lot of piano that's seven minute kind of i listened to the score today there's a seven minute track which is basically the final act with his mom That piano score is like some of the best I've heard in cinema. Like there's something about it that kind of blew my mind.

And this felt just different for John. There's a lot of tech. There's like a lot of electronic in that middle bit that he's working with. I actually pulled the piano from that scene. Okay, good. You can, yeah. I hate you. Cut it.

So yeah, I was kind of surprised by this because I didn't feel like John. I think if I didn't know it was John coming into it, that I probably would have been like, oh, Spielberg didn't work with John with this film. But... uh i think it's it's pretty brilliant to listen to also on its own because it's kind of it's just kind of buried in there a bit i feel like john's scores like the indiana jones the jurassic parks the star wars it's very it's a very it's a character of itself and all the

movies. And in this, it's in the background a lot. And I really liked, I liked this side of John. Come home. John. Menchie's Danny? I think we've kind of covered everything. I broached out David's face when he eats the spinach. When he breaks. Oh my God. Christ alive. That was unreal. Teddy warned him. He did warn him.

Yeah, so this film, I was shocked at how sad it was. I felt sad the whole time. Like, this film felt... so full of heart but like that heart was like broken like it's like it's full of a broken heart the whole time until you get to that final act where David becomes a real boy and

I was just gobsbacked by this movie. I thought I was going to hate it, and especially when we get to, not hate it, but I thought that the 2001 of it all was going to kind of bring it down a bit. It visually looks great. The flesh fare is what caught me off guard the bit.

because I was really sunk. That first act really hooked me. I told Casey when we finished, she was like, what'd you think? Because she didn't watch it with me. I was like, I might be at four stars. And then the more I sat with it, the more I sat with the ending, I was like, I might be at four and a half stars.

And then talk with you guys like, fuck it. I'm at five. I'm at five stars with this film. I want to watch it again like immediately to just kind of sit with it. And I was kind of worried because... A lot of my Spielberg love is just completely wrapped in nostalgia. And this coming into it is like, man, do I really dog on this Spielberg that I don't know this? I have no history with this, but.

There's a reason he's being reached out to by Kubrick to make this film. And I'm smitten with it. I'm a little bit smitten. And I'm happy to have watched it now in this time of my life. because of where we're at and our conversations with AI. I don't know. God bless Kathleen for producing this. Thank you, KK. She's the first ever goat for a reason. Yeah.

Also, Steven looked great in those making ofs. He looked fantastic. Yeah, his fit is great. Proto? Let's see, what else? I love the line, all her grief goes undigested. At the beginning, I think the doctor says that. A lot of eyes in this. Eyes, the window to the soul. Oh, the shot of the dads jumping into the pool. Classic Spielberg. The camera underwater. I was like, even this looks good. These guys, these dads. Me jumping into a pool would not look that good, but these guys looked amazing.

They probably practiced diving underwater for six months for that scene. Oh, I thought it was kind of weird that you get the reveal that Hertz' character... David is modeled after his son. Wouldn't this guy have the first model? Isn't that the whole reason he's doing it? Yeah, or that he would be more attuned to what's going on in this family's life with this kid. Yeah, this guy should be losing his mind, right? Why is he not in the garage with the screens?

He should be like using binocular. He should be buying the house across the street and like tightening his binoculars seeing what's going on. That's interesting. The ability to chase down our dreams. I love that line that Anthony Hopkins gives at the end of just that he like falls asleep dreaming. Was that Anthony Hopkins? I thought it was. Was it not him? Kingsley. Kingsley is the AI. He's the main sentient at the end. Could be wrong.

The specialist is Ben Kingsley. There's no way to check, folks. Robin Williams is Dr. No. Oh, yeah. That was great. Meryl Streep is the Blue Angel. Or the Blue Fairy. Yeah, that's kind of all I have. I think this movie, once you get out of that first act of the movie, it takes such a turn from how it feels, I think.

I get kind of, I think I get lost in the middle there. But there is something, like Danny, you're saying about re-watching it, there's something like very, almost like meditative about this movie. I mean, it's long. but it like takes its time and it explores these things and it

you're not like scared. I'm like, you never, you never feel scared for these characters. I think maybe because they're robots, but there's just something almost like comforting as you're like watching this journey and like, just reflecting on these.

these themes and ideas. And like, I agree, like I feel much better about this movie talking after talking about it and like liking a lot more. And I didn't watch the behind the scenes stuff, but now I really want to. I want to watch that ILM thing too. I didn't know that this was in that. But yeah, I think I'm at four stars. I mean, it's up there. I mean, the amount of goats. Yeah, hold on. Big list of goats. I mean, there's not...

Unfortunately, at least I couldn't find one YouTube video that was the entire making of. I had to watch a playlist. I watched the playlist too. 20 clips all lined up. One of them is just like a montage. of people on screen. They're not even talking. I saw that too. That was really weird. It's so weird. It's like the intro to a 90s sitcom. It was. I love how Manhattan looks. That watery Manhattan.

Oh, so cool. I mean, the water out of those statues outside of that building, it's just, give me an hour of making that. So cool. Jude walking down that street, was that? I don't think it was Rouge City, but maybe it was like that first scene where he's walking through the city, like the red light district. Yeah. So gorgeous. His face when she first reads Pinocchio.

To her real son. And like he's sitting off into the distance in that room. Oh my God, what a face. How is Haddonfield not underwater? Every scene with his face half covered is magic. No one builds children. No one ever has. What's the point? It's interesting that I think, yeah, he was like the first child robot.

I mean, technically, why would you? They don't age. You just have a child that same age forever. I mean, that also probably does like a weird mental thing to any parent. Right. That kid's not growing at all. They don't grow.

Imagine having a permanent 11-year-old in your house. My brain falling out is maybe... like as soon as he said that he solidified five stars of course I'm five stars for this movie oh of course of course um I loved in the making of Janice Janice the cinematographer was asked like I think off screen, like what his inspirations were for this movie. And he kind of talks about like, I don't really have any, he says, I use my life experience to express myself. That was a great sentence.

His brain's falling out. That was nice. Yeah, my brain was falling out of the couch when he said that. I'm so glad we covered this, though. I feel like this was like a movie. When we did it for the Letterboxd show, I was like, oh, this is going to be a great episode. Great episode. Thank you, Kathleen. Who's your guest for that? Do you remember? Boy, I have no idea. Okay. Just be frank with everybody. I have no clue. I'll ask the AI chatbot. Okay, so we're not...

For folks that aren't aware, we're not recording this live in our Discord. It's a surprise episode. And next week, there's a fifth week in the month.

So July is still not happening quite yet. We announced the July slate at the top of the show. It's Blockbusted Volume 3, but we thought, what the heck could we do a fifth week on? We decided to take it amongst ourselves. We've done a community vote in the past. People said they wanted a theme. They wouldn't stop talking about it. They're so excited for a theme. Let's put it to a vote. Okay. It didn't win. Nobody voted for it.

we were lied to, we were betrayed. And it will never happen again. So we're taking matters in our own hands. Any month that has a fifth week moving forward, that week will be sexual Michael Douglas week. Yeah. So next week we will be doing from, you talk about a master, Paul Verhoeven, 1992 Basic Instinct. Another first battle. This is a big one. Oh my God, I can't wait.

I can't even breathe. I'm so excited for this. Streaming on Paramount Plus America's Network. Let's see. A violent police detective. Investigates a brutal murder that might involve a manipulative and seductive novelist. This one changed everything. Yeah. God. By the way, chat GPT says Robert Daniels on your best in show episode. I think that's accurate. I know it is. Let's see. I have seen this movie. I was stunned.

I was stunlocked while watching this movie. Proto, you have seen this movie. I've never seen it. My brain fell out. We need to make a meme of him in that chair just slumped. I think I watched this last year. What a ride. I'm excited. Michael Douglas Sharon Stone. This changed everything. Okay? Paul Verhoeven. Yeah. Look at his chaos profile. Can you pull up? I'll drop it in our DMs here. You guys got to see this photo of Paul.

Wild and out. Paul, please. That strand of hair. Yeah, Paul. We get another picture. Maybe it's a Dutch thing. So stick around, folks. We might do an uncut conversation after the credits roll tonight. Usually what our patrons get, so that's just a taste. Pardon, any closing thoughts this week? I've been giving recommendations for other movies to watch. And I got another one now because when I think of artificial intelligence, I often think also of a movie that came out.

In 1999, from Christopher Columbus, Bicentennial Man. Oh, wow. Of course, starring Robin Williams. So if you want to, we saw a boy become real. If you want to see a man become real. Watch that movie. Oh, my God. That's haunting. Haunting. We'll see everybody next week for Basic Instinct. 70mm is a tape deck production featuring original artwork provided by Danny Haas. Spiritual Guidance and V'ger, the robot who loves movies, provided by Pertalexis, producer at large.

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If you'd like to support our friends at Letterboxd and upgrade to pro or patron status, you can do so with a 20% off discount using the links on 70mmpod.com. Goodbye. Bicentennial Man. Danny, have you seen that movie? No, God, no. That's a crazy movie. How am I spelling Bicentennial Man?

My spelling is so bad, our search won't even harbor a guess. Search Robin Williams. 1999. Oliver Platt. Sam Neill. What? One robot's 200-year journey to become an ordinary man. Just an ordinary man. Not streaming anywhere easily. No, definitely not. 3.2 average. Changed me. Actually, speaking of ratings, I was looking at AI. What is this poster of this Robin Williams poster where he's standing behind the robot? Let's see it. Drop it.

Drop it in chat. Okay, hold on. Drop it. Oh my god, I just saw it, yeah. What in the world? Drop it in chat. It's coming. Did you get it? No, not yet. Did you get it? Did you drop it in chat? What the? He looks like Deadpool. He does look like Ryan Reynolds in that. What the? That is creepy. That is an awful poster. That's got to be some random non-American poster. Dinner's done. Dinner time.

Any updates to our chicken top three? Top three chicken spaces that we're getting food from. I think you went to one of your chicken spots. Where'd you go? I went to my... Loving chicken. Okay. Loving chicken, fried chicken, honey fried chicken. We had Father's Day. We got the tots again. I went to this place before, got the tots, got the tenders, and Jenna got some bone in. Bone in. Bone in wings, fried.

And the sauces. Got an array of sauces, and it was delicious. It was fantastic. I mean, I love the tenders. I could eat a pile of those. I eat them until they're gone. Someone posted a photo of a Nashville hot chicken sandwich and it looks insane. Do they still have that on the menus? You know, I've never gotten any of the sandwiches. I always see when I go because it's pickup only. They just have a window you pick it up from.

But they always have their menu out there. And we always just get the chicken. But every time I'm there, I'm like, oh, they do sandwiches too. But it's in Philly. It's like a 20-minute drive for me. So it's kind of out of the way to go. gotta go across the bridge so when we go it's usually just it's just for uh like dinner i'm looking at the menu right now yeah they got nashville hot oh yeah 1375. oh yeah highly recommend it i mean i

I love their chicken. I need to get over there. You got to do some research. Someone's got to research. Maybe this weekend I got to go on assignment. See what's cooking over there. What did I just have? Taking two kids and a neighbor friend to how to train a dragon in the morning. Really? Yeah. Kids want to go see it. Taking one of their friends. Wow. Okay. Yeah. I'm excited, actually. Yeah. Did you see that video that James was in for Letterboxd? Yeah, it was fantastic.

Oh, wait, I didn't see that. Where is that? It's on Letterboxd IG. Yeah, they sent us a kit that they were sending out. It has a making of book that's pretty cool. Oh, yeah, I did see that. Okay. James was annoyed with the music choice that we made for the video. Really? What did he think? What did he want? He wanted a test drive from the movie.

But I was like, yeah, James, of course we're going to use the song. This is like Kubrick and Spielberg all over again. He was like, as we were filming it, he's like, dad, you got to tell him. they got to use test drive for this video. And I was like, James, of course we're going to use How to Train Dragons for the video. We didn't use it. I was like, maybe we can't do that on giveaway videos. I don't know the rules. Interesting.

I'm a big fan of Union Jacks. Wings. Union Jacks? No, I've never even heard of it. In Glenside? Glenside. Got some good ass wings and Union Jacks. Okay. That's where we were last week. I think I took a photo of those. We also got one of those Costco pies. You were talking about like...

How much money you didn't spend at the pool before Danny got on the call? Oh, yeah. You can get a giant pizza pie, pepperoni at Costco for $9. Dang. That feeds a whole family. Is it a big one? It's a big boy. I see families. eating at the food court area. They just get a pie and sit there and have a gigantic dinner. Costco has to be protected at all costs. That's crazy. That's like...

It's like the cost of one person. $8. Right. And then you can get a hot dog and a soda for $1.50. You could take that to the pool, Proto. You could be a hero at that pool. Walking up with a Costco pie, a hot dog. The Wendy Peppercorn lifeguard gets off the stand to come give you mouth to mouth as you bring in.

Resuscitate. Have you ever gotten a chicken bake at Costco? Can we talk about this? Oh, yeah. I love the chicken bake. I don't think I've ever gotten a chicken bake. No. I don't even know what you're talking about. Oh, my God. It's like... It's almost like a... It's like a stromboli, but it's got chicken, bacon, mozzarella cheese, Caesar dressing. Yeah, it's a loaf of bread. With chicken and cheese melted inside of it. It's insane.

The technology that they're uncovering in Costco. AI. Yeah. I think they have the patent on it somehow. But you can actually get them, you can buy them in bulk at Costco, like a freezer item. God, if Wawa had those, chicken mix. Speaking of what, I actually just realized I had like 2,000 points in my Wawa app. I could get a whole pizza at Wawa for free. You'd be a hero. I always forget to use that. Yeah, you got to use that. You can scan it at mobile checkout.

You got to remember to do it. Oh, yeah. You got to scan. You could add it to your Apple wallet. What? Have I done that? Maybe I have done that. Let me see. I'll do some research. Oh, I do have it in here. Oh, I'm an idiot. Okay. It's sitting right here. Oh, my God. Yeah, I've been asking Amanda if she wants me to just pick up Wawa a few times last month. And she's like, I don't know if I like Wawa. What? She's out on Wawa food. Out. She took a coffee, but she's out on food.

Jenna does. Man is a coffee drinker? Oh my God. Yeah. Oh, you're not. No. Okay. I don't believe in this stuff. Oh. What were you saying about Jenna? Jenna does that on Wawa? Oh yeah. Jenna would not. Jenna, if I say, let's get a sandwich at Wawa, or that I had one, she's ready to get into divorce proceedings. She's like, I can't be married to a man like this.

I mean, technically you do have some of the best food in the country within like 10 minutes of where you live. So maybe that's plays into it. Well, that's also a problem for the same pizza. Like there's, if I brought home a Costco pie. When we have the pizza around us, the divorce proceedings. I'm going to bring a Costco pie the next time we come to your house. Just to see Jenna's face. Just to watch Jenna's reaction. My kids would love it. They wanted to get Wawa pizza for the longest time.

How much is a pizza at your preferred spot if you got a pepperoni pie? 20 minimum. I think it's 30. You could get three Costco pies. And still have money left over to get a hot dog and a soda. We usually get like a Sicilian though. And maybe a pepperoni would be like 28. You can get basil in the Costco aisle to throw on it.

Yeah, a square pie there, I think they're like $35. Oh, my God. Man, now I got to try this pie. But also, it's like I'm feeding my family for $35. That sounds good. That's still not bad. You know? Still not bad. There's five of you. Take out for 35? And there's leftovers. Try this. What if you wanted to feed your family for $9? Just think about it. It's so true. Think about it.

Someone's got to think about it. Someone has to. I'm a pizza now so bad. I need a pie ASAP. Christ. If I eat any dairy right now, I'm finished. Dairy? My night's ruined. My dairy cutoff is like 730. You have a dairy cutoff? I have to. Do you have like nightmares? I have Tropicanda thunder at like 3 a.m.

I had no chance. Tropicana steamer at 3 a.m. There's no way. I can't eat chocolate after like 8 o'clock because I'll have nightmares. Oh, no, no. I'm talking about things exiting my body. Oh, my God. Bad. Liquid nightmares. I've never... Is that a normal thing? Do people have to stop eating dairy after a certain time if they don't want to go to the bathroom at a certain time? I've noticed if like...

I say eight o'clock. I don't know actually the cutoff, but I gave myself a cutoff because if I'm like, if we're playing Apex and there's like pizza in the fridge and I have a slice, I'm fucked. At like 3 a.m. Or anything with cheese. Like I'm bodied. Ice cream? No, I can't go past 8. Wow. Dang. Yeah.

I should go get it checked out, but I'm not going to. There's no time. There's no time. We're not sponsored by Costco. We should be. Unless. If you're listening, Costco. But their vanilla ice cream is also amazing. Really? It's like super premium vanilla ice cream. Costco brand. Incredible. What's your favorite ice cream? Vanilla. Flavor. Flavor. Don't say vanilla. Chocolate chip cookie dough, maybe? Oh. I'm like chocolate.

Triple chocolate fudge. Chocolate chip. Your chocolate boy? Yeah, just give me all the different kind of chocolate. Really? If I had to pick one ice cream. I mean, I love it all, though. I mean, I need any of it. What kind of milkshake would you get? Vanilla. There you go. That's what I'm talking about. It's home base. It's safe. When I was in New Zealand.

for work. We went to like duck. I'm not sure if it was, I think it was duck ice cream. They have some duck thing ice cream place, but I was always getting like vanilla and everyone was just like eye rolling, scoffing at me. Yeah, I would definitely.

I'd push you over. I've made mistakes, though. Like, you're out, you know, you're on vacation, and you get ice cream supplies. Yeah, I'm going to get courageous here. You know, I'm going to try this, like, you know, Jolly Rancher or whatever, you know. You're like, idiot. It's a gamble. It's a huge gamble. There's a place called Jenny's, I think, by us. And they have this ice cream that's called Mexican hot chocolate. And it is...

It's one of my favorites. I think about it often. Now I can never have it. Did you say that that place that we went to, the breakfast place, moved away or did they move further away? Oh. Is that still there? raga they moved from palm they moved like 45 minutes north oh yeah a little bit of a hike but it's saint augustine which is a cool city that's good for them right yeah it's definitely better for them i think

Are we going to make that track again? A 45 minute drive to Raga? Hell yeah. Next on my list, the Trump phone. You guys seen this? I did. Yeah. This is like an Android phone, right? It's Android? Yeah. Yeah, of course it's Android. They're not selling their iOS phone. It's made out of solid gold.

Wasn't there other things besides Android? Like Windows? There's nothing else. Did you say WebOS? Windows. Like a Windows phone. They don't make phones anymore. They don't? No, they exited the business. So it's an Android. Go ahead. Nope. Keep going. You were about to say something about Trump. I was going to make fun of Android people, but that's mean. The amount of comments we're going to get on Spotify.

How about that one person commenting that they didn't want to hear about my London trip on the Patreon feed? Our patron. Oh, man. I mean, I wonder if those episodes unlock on the Patreon feed. So maybe that person like stumbled upon our Patreon feed and listened to that episode randomly. I don't know. I don't know. Sociopath. Anyone that comments negatively about a podcast in like iTunes, you need to be, they're sociopaths. We definitely have hate listeners.

Do you think we have hate listeners? I have to read this one I share with you guys. Danny not liking Sly's performance because of the cancer arc is the most Danny thing. Laugh emoji. Also, his criticism of the writing is essentially, quote, I feel like the writing could have been different. Unquote. Someone get Hollywood on the phone. Danny's got script notes. Christ. I got clocked so hard on that one. That seems like a fun...

I think it's definitely funny. No, thank you. Oh, I missed your name. I'll pull it back up. Protolexus. Thank you, Protolexus. Protolexus 69 420. I mean, yeah, we get a lot of comments on Spotify. Let's see. The holy war against Spotify rages on. ZZ underscore Lou. Thank you, Lou. That was funny. There are a lot of comments on Spotify. There's a smart addition on their part to add comments. It used to be like Q&A or something. I can't remember what it was. Someone put a...

Timestamp. 50 minutes, 45 seconds. Salute. Skull emoji. Proto my guy. On the Fallout episode. I don't know what he said. Oh, I think that's with Rebecca Ferguson. You and Rebecca. Rebecca is mommy. Letterboxd review. That was red. Oh my gosh. Poetry. Anything else on my list here? Let's see what's on theverge.com that we need to talk about. Oh, go straight to Verge. Inside Microsoft's complicated relationship with OpenAI. There's nothing exciting happening in tech right now. No.

Tech's dead. Dead game. Let's see. Did I buy anything interesting recently? I bought another EverGoods thing. What did you buy on Everkids? I got another pouch of theirs. Civic Access Pouch 2L. Okay. I love it. So I use one as like a tech pouch. So when I travel, I put all my tech stuff in there, but it's also just good to have at home for like cables and wires in there. I got another one. I'm going to use it for camera stuff. Oh.

You're into camera stuff? Not really, but I can be. Oh. Why'd you say it like that? God. I actually need to get more film. I ran out of film. That's my Florida trip. From where? Where'd you go? Florida? No, it's a bunch of the family photos, theme park photos, Little League photos. I mean, when you have a half-frame camera... Well, you're the official photographer, aren't you? I did take a lot of Little League photos for the families.

Having the half frame camera, it takes a long time to get through a roll. So I think one roll is at least two months of photos. Yeah. And then I flew through another one. I mean, four days on vacation, I only got through one other role. That's nuts. Yeah. 72 photos for one roll. Yeah. It's insane. Were you making moves on buying a camera? He's filmed a develop from last year. You still haven't gotten a develop from our last trip. Can you just mail it to us and we'll get a develop? I'm getting...

I'm getting on it. It's on my list. It's high on my list. You know what? On your Florida trip, just bring it with you. Oh. It'll get developed down here. Wow, wow, wow. I mean, I can do it. I have a spot in Philadelphia. It's just, I'm never going over there. You were just there. Yeah. Well, yeah, I don't remember. But I was looking at headlines. I mean...

serendipitous kismet for what we're doing next week. Sharonstone67 looks stunning as she goes braless in see-through top for sizzling magazine shoot. Okay. What is this on Reddit? Playboy. thesun.com the sun the sun.com what are you doing on the sun.com well that's where he gets his news you were looking at

Well, I was, well, what I was going to say. Oh, well, that unfurled right there. Sorry. My Reddit, my Discord cookies are going to be off the charts this week. You were looking for headlines and I've been reading. You ever read DrudgeReport.com? no so it's like uh conservative like it's been around for like 30 years uh but the i was reading the headlines last night and it it reads like the end times like it's insane headlines just one after another

And that's where I saw this. I can't believe the Drudge Report is still around. I thought that would have gone like the HuffPost. I don't know, some Alex Jones nonsense. No, this guy's Drudge is the real deal. Oh. The real deal. What are Trump tacos? I keep seeing people talk about tacos, Trump or something. Is that a thing? Oh, well, the taco, it was the taco, the acronym, Trump always chickens out. Oh.

I thought it was like an orange shell with no filling. Yeah, wait for just a photo of a shell with like his eyes on it or something. Oh, yeah. This headline now says Trump tacos for two weeks. I saw a video on Reddit of the 2016 presidential debate. He has changed so much in 10 years. He's like a shell of a human being. He was like, he came off as young in that debate. He was young when he was like 70. Yeah, I saw that there was like going around his first when he like declared.

that he was going to run for president in 2015 or whatever and it's like whoa he looks like a completely different yeah who is this guy can barely string together three three words now who biden Sorry, I looked away. Cut the stream. Cut it. Closing all these tabs. I had Tim Robinson's WikiUp. What's the word of this Elio movie? I saw one trailer. It just seemed like kind of milquetoast. I don't know, man. It's like, oh, look, a Pixar movie just came out. No one's talking about it.

It kind of blows my mind these days, how we've come so far. It feels like Pixar were event movies. And now it's just like, oh, here's a new Pixar. Wow, I saw a trailer for this, but I didn't even remember it existed. Domi Shi, the director of Turning Red, is co-directing this. I love Turning Red. Hello. Hello. I was going to ask the kids if they wanted to see that, but I know they really wanted to see How to Train a Dragon. Wait. When does this come out? It's out. This weekend. What?

How does this movie just get like nothing? It's just out. Right, exactly. I was just at the Disney parks for four days. Not a banner, not a poster. Damn, that's not good. Not even at Hollywood Studios. In the animation area. I don't remember saying anything about Elio. Is it too woke? Did it get canceled? Is it woke? It's hard to tell. Oh. I need someone to tell me. That's usually what happens.

Fire up the next episode of Tucker Carlson. Then you'll get your answer. America's darling right now because he slammed Ed Cruz. Good luck. It's just, it's like, oh, well, the lowest bar in the world is to make Ted Cruz look bad. I mean, honestly, it shows how, like, I don't want to say smart, but like, we're talented.

But you can see how he can swing people. Oh, yeah, of course. Because he's now getting people on the left to be like, pretty good interview. Oh, I was like, oh, hell yeah. Way to go, sucker. This is what's happened in the last 10 years. That's how he's pulling people over to whatever he says, the idiot things that he says normally. He's really good at what he does. He's really good at it. It was amazing. He eviscerated Cruz in that interview.

Yeah. Like his condescension, like all the time as he's asking questions. Like you want to root for him because he's ruthless. Right. What do we have? Jon Stewart? Is he our time? Jon Stewart just staring into the camera. Jon Stewart, I mean, when he left The Daily Show and then went to Apple, it was like dunzo. It's like Stern going to Sirius. No one's...

No one's going to watch you. No one's going to talk about you. I mean, he might be doing good work, but no one's going to talk about it. His Apple stuff was bonkers. I don't know. He's a great man, though. Great man. Salt of the earth. Imagine if we had live chat while we're talking about Tucker Carlson and Trump. We wouldn't be allowed. They wouldn't allow it. We'd be getting canceled in our own Discord. Can't cancel us.

I don't have any more news worth discussing. Not that the Tucker Carlson would ever be worth discussing on this show. Let me scroll to the bottom of this article. Bottom of the barrel? Nope. Nope. Did you watch, Danny, the trailer, the F1 trailer with the vibration stuff on iPhone? I have not watched one trailer. I've avoided it as much as I could.

I've seen clips as I try to get it off the screen. I'm trailer-free going into this film, I think. Don't you usually make fun of us for going trailer-free? Yes. Oh, I always make fun of you for that. Interesting. I don't need to see it. That's the thing. I don't need to see. I know what it's going to be. What are your thoughts on iOS going year numbers moving forward?

iOS 26. Oh, whatever. I don't care. I truly don't care. Wow. Good answer. Strong answer. Sorry, that's about it. Their names got stupid anyway. What am I even on right now? I am on Sequoia 15. I mean, they just did this 10 years ago. Yeah. Why they wait so long. Did you just play the... Did I just hear that? I'm going to hold it. All right. We should wrap up. Let's wrap it up. Is there anything else we want to talk about?

I have a Jaws poster releasing tomorrow. Oh, yeah. It's pretty fun. It's probably sold out by the time this episode. It's a timed release, so you have all weekend to buy it. Can't sell out. Do I have to be on Mondo.com? Mondo Shop. MondoShop.com. I think that's what it was. That's a big boy too, right? 24 by 36. It's a big one. Got to build a new wall for that. Seriously. I'm excited. It was fun to work with him on a...

property that I love celebrating the 50th anniversary of Jaws. Yeah, it looks amazing. I went into GameStop the other day and they had like real Ghostbusters toys. What the? On Mondo's website, I guess. Yeah, the Ghostbusters line. That's so expensive, too. I now go into GameStop every time I'm near one because I want to see what action figures they have. Oh, that's a good move. I always do that at Walmart now. They have that action figure section in the electronics.

That's where I find all the McFarlane toys. Same with Best Buy. Best Buy has one of those sections. Oh. That's so weird that Best Buy has a section like that, but they don't even carry, like, Blu-rays anymore. No. Wow. I went in... I pulled an all-time bonehead move. I bought James an external hard drive for his Xbox Series S because he was running out of space. So I searched like Xbox compatible hard drives.

and i got it and he downloaded all these games he's like dad it's not let me play it says i have to move it and you can't play games from external hard drives that are supported for xbox that has to be moved to the main drive you can only get the seagate expansion slot that goes in the back of an xbox if you want to play from an external oh

I've had a plug-in SSD drive on my Xbox before. Do you have a Series Xbox? Do you have a Series X or an S? The one before this one. I think it changed with Series. Oh. Damn, that sucks. Yeah. Because you can't return it then. No, I was able to return it. They let you? Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. So, yeah, it was more expensive and it was only a terabyte. The one I got it was two terabytes. Damn.

Call of Duty will kick your butt. It's a massive file to download. The file size of that game is ridiculous. They should be investigated. Congress should be having hearings on Call of Duty game file sizes. all right thanks everyone for listening we'll see you next time