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Well, here we are as the season comes to a close in just a matter of hours. Live from the Holy Grail with Moeger and Tony Pike. I'm ken Brew and what began with great hope ends with great anticipation as to what may happen in the off season. But in between then and now stand the Cleveland Browns, the dreaded Cleveland Browns, or so in Cleveland probably than here. But nevertheless, the Cleveland Browns are in town today to take on the Bengals as the season ends in Tony.

Yeah, multiple years now, I'm wondering what might have been if the Bengals could be playing meaningful football at the start of January.

It's another year.

As you mentioned, what if you know, what if the defense didn't play at the level of the worst defense in the National Football League history for much of.

The first half of the year.

What if the offense was able to stay together, What if the core group was able to play more with Joe Burrow, jamar Chas and t Higgins. But really, the thought today is not doing enough. You know that this team did not do enough in between last year and this year, and that's why we're up here again today talking about our final show as the regular season comes to an end for the Bengals.

Hovering is that the word?

Okay, it's always been hovering for me. But that's okay, We'll we'll work that out, Joe, We'll work that out. Some people say hoovering, hoovering, jj hoovering it. It is a disappointment of epic proportions that in what are supposed to be the prime years of Joe Burrow, it's three straight years of not making the postseason. You know, three years ago it was well, Joe got hurt, valiant effort at the end, Jake Browning, they finished with more wins and losses. Okay, last year to me one of the

Well, you could thank the Jets, and you can thank the Bears, and he could thank a defense that was wildly overrated coming into this season, But that doesn't determine the fact that there have been bright spots. And I don't want to dwell on that because we know the overarching theme is what you just said, Mo, It's just been a wasted effort. Everybody says, well, the windows open as long as Joe Burrow is the quarterback. Well, we know that narrative really isn't true. But we celebrated the

Fear of people playing out the string is that they win a couple of games down the stretch and then you start to convince yourself that maybe you're not as far off as you think. This team's far off. This team has a ton that they need to do in

Roster that is nowhere close.

If you watch any football yesterday or any football in the last week or so, the Seattle Seahawks are playing a different brand of football than the Bengals are right now. You watch much of the year the San Francisco forty nine ers, that's a different brand of offense than what the Bengals play with. And those teams have also gone through injuries this year. Those guys, they also have major players that are out. So this has to be the jumping off point of major, major overhaul after today.

Yeah, and you know, you're right. There have been some bright spots here toward the end of the season. You mentioned a couple, you know, Miles Murphy's played really well and DJ turn has had a Pro Bowl caliber season, and there have been tiny improvements offensively, and they have a pretty good offensive line. But they ignored the obvious last year, right the last year their defense was so bad that Joe Burrow was arguably the best quarterback in the sport had a season that was deserving of an

But if you've ignored the.

Obvious once, why should I assume you're not going to do it again?

And that's the fear.

Like you watched this team over the last couple of weeks, I think so many fans wanted to wrap their arms around good performances, but you can't because in this franchise's history, both recent and going back decades, there is a track record of late season success impairing judgment once the offseason gets here. And if you don't believe me, go back and look at the eight months that preceded this disaster of a season.

It's Duke and company in charge, because here's the question. The most famous quote about the Bengals to come out of the combine was I don't want to pay more money this year for the same team I had last year. And what did they do? They paid more money for the same team they had last year. So there's question one. Question two. Do we anticipate that the Bengals are going to go out and become wildly spending free agency? No,

I don't think they have to spend wildly in free agency. I think they have to spend smartly. They need starting caliber players. Now, are they gonna be able to, you know, do what they did in twenty twenty, which was just overpay. Look, they were accused of overpaying for DJ Reader, but they had to and they had the resources too, and some even said they overpaid for Trey Hendrickson. That worked out, but they had to. They don't need to spend wildly,

Here's what they did in free agency last year. Huh TJ Slayton orn Burks, Lucas Patrick. Finally they got in Dalton Reisner. They got somebody that could quit himself well at the position. I mean, there's that was almost out of this necessity and dose of injuries.

And there is another litmus test.

Give me point. My point being, you don't have to go out and grab a guy at twelve oh one am on the day free agency starts, or four o'clock in the afternoon, whatever it may be. You have to do due diligence. And the guys they brought in are just not difference maker. Who was the last difference maker they brought in in free agency was whore Hendricks Hendrickson, Okay, how many years ago is that? Five?

Yeah?

Okay, case closed.

I think that the biggest part about it is is there was probably a window in this organization the past couple of years where you thought, Okay, we can draft and develop some talent. They failed in those areas and they've not developed the talent. So your your view and your approach to an offseason has to be completely different. Maybe at the draft, instead of talking about numbers, well, look at the testing numbers of this player, Maybe talk

This is not a developmental league anymore. It's not it's a cheap labor league. It's about stars, and the Bengals have stars, and you pay them, and then it's about getting immediate dividends from cheap labor to developmental players. Are Andre Yoshavas That sounds like a knock on Andre Andre was a very good sixth round pick, But he's a supplemental Guy's a complimentary player.

You need dudes who in year one.

And Duke Tobin said this, this is what was so frustrating about this year's draft. Duke Tobin back at the combine said, we need guys and are going to get guys who can help now.

And then you take.

Jamar Stewart, who looked like a project and you know, his rookie season a wash for some reasons beyond his control.

I don't like.

You can look at the three at the twenty twenty three draft class and conclude, boy, there's a lot of guys that you want to be on the.

Team in twenty twenty six.

You can't have though three years go by before you feel.

Good about a class, right.

You need to look back at the end of every season ago we had two or three players that stepped in and made an immediate impact, and that hasn't happened here in a very long time.

Twenty twenty Burrow, Higgins, Logan Wilson pretty good. Top of the draft. Yeah. After that, the Keem Davis Gaither, well, he's still in the leg, Khalil Kareem Khalik whatever his name is. Haquina Dentergy, Aiquina Dentagy, My god, Marcus Bailey game sixty games. But I mean the bottom of that draft not good. Top of the draft in uh, where are we? Let's go top of the draft twenty twenty four.

No?

Eric All don't know nothing but hurt, nothing but hurt. So I mean, you've got you've got to focus, and this plays off your point zone. You kind of focus, just not what you see on tape and say, yeah, I can mold him into this. Yeah, what kind of player is he when everything goes south in the game? Is he a leader? Is he somebody that makes the situation worse? We kind of a guy is he when he misses a tackle? Does he come back dedicated to make that tackle the next time? And that only comes

Well, there's gonna be one playing Sunday night to night in Jack Sawyer, who a lot of IT teams.

He's just too slow playing well.

He plays good football, and every time you turn on an Ohio State game, he made a play. There's something to be said about that. We do so much draft coverage now we get exhausted with these names. There are names that I remember talking about a lot. John Campbell talked about a ton position of need. He's one of the best rookies in football right now for the Philadelphia Eagles. If you watched last weekend the Falcons game, Xavier Watts is a player we talked nauseum abouts in Cincinnati. Why

Did they hit on those guys.

You'd like to think they hit on Fairchild, but nothing is for sure. And at so many positions of need, there's only so many free agents you'll be able to sign.

And who made the decision right back then to think that those two guys could play together at an NFL level and you're fine at linebacker.

Well, and you you can't ignore large almost impossible to

Go back and look at the reaction. Yes of Zach Taylor. Yes, they're so excited.

Yeah, So there has to be somebody in the room that goes, Zach, I know you like this guy, but my intel says he may not be from a maturity standpoint, what we want. But I've got this guy over here, and you know, athletically, maybe he doesn't fit the same profile, but we can count on him and he can show up to work on time, and he's gonna fit with Joe and in this offense, we can carve that a role for him. Instead, it's a waste to pick, and you're going in the next year still wondering to a degree,

He won, right, he wins, and he gets to the quarterback they got out maneuvered on draft Day I think they I think they were like, oh, I don't ask me if I have any evidence of this happened. I think they wanted Walter Nolan, yes, and they got They got out maneuvered on Draft Day, much as they got out on Draft Day when they wound up with Billy Price.

Like, you can't just shrug your shoulders and go, well, we didn't get the guy we wanted. Okay, most times you're not going to Oftentimes you're not to what's next. So if you wanted Walter Nolan that much, you know what you should have done put yourself in a position to take them.

But they got sucked into the same thing with with with Jamar Stewart as they did with Burton. Burton, remember, was going to replace t Higgins, a cheaper version of Tea Stuart was going to be a cheaper version of Trey Hendrickson. You're not always the smartest guy in the room.

You're not always just be high Miles Murphy, right, that was gonna Benrison.

Better to keep the guy you got that you know, is a known quantity than well. Anyway, we got to take a break. We're live from the Holy Grail. I think they'll have a decent crowd there today. I would hope. You know, it's the last game of the season. If you want to keep hope alive, the flicker of that candle has to begin at some point. Why not let that flicker.

Positioning is at stake today, I meant, records are at stake.

I can hear it now. Three straight wins, right.

Don't rock, don't rock the ship too. We are fine than people think we're Okay.

They've already announced their ticket price increase, so they can't do that at the end of the game today.

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President Trump deciding who's going to take the place of Nicholas Mandurah, this is the nine thirty report.

I'm Sandy Collins breaking now.

Trump says that the current vice president of Venezuela will be taking the place of Alsted Nicholas Maduro. Trump said yesterday that Vice President Delci Rodriguez has agreed to work with the US, but the US will be running Venezuela. Trump used to be supportive of Venezuelan opposition leader Machado, but he now believes that she can't lead her people because.

They don't respect her in her country.

The President said he wants Venezuela to be independent and its infrastructure needs to be repaired, and that American oil companies will be fixing the damage to Venezuelan infrastructure. With just twenty four hours since this military action. Maduro is now in jail in New York.

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Morise, Venezuela's vice president, demanding the immediate release of Maduro and his wife, saying Venezuela has a duty to safeguarded sovereignty that has been attacked. Secretary of State Marco Rubio says Congress was not known prior to the mission, saying doing so would have quote endangered the mission.

US allies have mixed emotions about the US capture of the Venezuelan president.

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Something's got to change, whether it's players that we have continuing to improve and get better and playing championship caliber football or bringing guys in that that will or whatever it may be.

Obviously something has.

To something has to change. What changes do you think he has in mind? It's a great question.

That's all work for Navy so well the other night. I think for Joe it's it's not so much about specifics. It's not get rid of this player, replace them with this player. I think it's urgency. I think it's the understanding that hey man, you've you've got me. I'm your meal ticket. I'm going to turn thirty during next season.

That to me is the word here.

It's cliche if you want to say, but it's understanding what you have. The windows should be open. You have an a list or a quarterback. The AFC was turned on its head this year. The division, the other teams in the division have major questions.

We need to seize.

We can't sit back and wait for guys who haven't performed to see if they're gonna get better. There's gotta be a sense of urgency that has been lacking for a long time.

I think he's talking about one side of the football. I don't think he's talking about his side of the football.

No, no, And to me, that's what's so frustrat right. Like, if you're Duke Tobin or Mike Brown. There are eighteen teams that's starting tomorrow their offseason begins. How many of those personnel people have what the Bengals have, which is a side of the ball that you don't need to touch exactly. They need to bring back Dalton Reisner. They can find some offensive line depth, maybe third wide receiver, but you could leave that side of the football alone and feel like we're good and so to me, that

Yeah, I think it along with that urgency, what has Joe done for this team down the stretch when he didn't have to come back and play. Yeah, I'll put myself out there. Yeah, I'll go play my brand of football. And so we'll guys like T Higgins and T Higginson ourselves out there because it matters to us and what matters winning matters. Very clear that winning matters. Joe has said that from the moment he got here, the most important thing to me is winning Super Bowls, not the

And I also think we are now closer to the end of Joe Burrow's current contract than we are to when he played in a Super Bowl. Sure right, the clock is ticking, so you might have thought that a lot of people overblew. You know, well, he's gonna demand a trade or he's gonna do an Andrew Locke.

I agree.

At the same time, do you want to be where they are again in a year with a quarterback who's then gonna turn thirty, who's got three years left At some point the Bengals are gonna want to extend him. You don't want to be in a position where Joe Burrow goes I'm good, yeah, here, here.

Here now, Jamar Chase, when asked this week if he thinks the Bengals are quote unquote close.

I feel like that's the same question I get asked there close. You know, I say the same thing every I don't. I mean, at this point, we're gonna keep battling, and that's all we can do. As players, control intro and make plays and opportunities when our numbers is calling.

That's all we can do. You have a situation, so no, they're not close, right, We're gonna play hard. You have a situation. Compare it to baseball. Great baseball teams are strong up the middle catcher, GP combination, center fielder. This team is weak up the middle, dtackle, linebacker, safety, So it's pretty obvious where they've got to make changes. If changers are going to be now, you're not gonna fix it in one draft. You're not gonna hit a home

Dalton Riiser has been fantastic. Dalton Riisler was an afterthought for much of training camp. Oh he doesn't make his mind up apparently until late train But can you you're spot on this, and again it's not easy to do it. But the one prerequisite that people have always talked about with the defense just be middle of the pack because the offense is that good.

Do you want a top ten defense?

Absolutely, but there's not as much pressure to go from one of the worst in the NFL to the league's best next year? Can you go from one of the worst in the NFL to fourteenth next year? If this was a fourteenth or fifteenth ring defense, then we're talking today going into this game against Cleveland about playoff seeding, and you know is the number one seed still at stake is a first round by his home field advantage.

Well, and with Reisner in particular, there's a chance to get an early win.

Do what's easy.

Here is a player who has performed at a high enough level that it makes sense to bring him back. He's due to be a free agent. He has stated publicly I want to be here, and by the way, the Bengals can do something about that before March. So you know, Dalton Ryan is not Chamar Chaser T Higgins. But one of the one of the problems the Bengals had was they ended up paying those guys more than

Why don't we check out the delivery of the game last week. It's brought to you by RNL Carriers. Visit RLC dot com make RNL carriers. You're global transportation provider. Well, what was your delivery of the game.

Last Cody Ford a twenty one yard reception, twenty one yard catch and run. They should have given him the ball at the goal line, given him a chance to score a touch down.

It was a cool moment for Cody.

What I enjoyed was on Twitter, everybody raced to make the same joke, which was that Cody Ford has more receptions than Jermaine Burton this season. I thought it was a delivery of the game for Cody. I thought it was also a delivery of the game for the writers, because what else do you write about? Right, So they wrote when they played Miami, the hey Joe is back, look at what this offense can do. They couldn't really put a bowl in the season because they had one

Yeah.

I agree, Yeah, it's easily Cody Ford. If it's not Cody Ford. Last week, Jamar Chase became the first wide receiver in NFL history to have eighty or more catches, seven or more touchdowns in one thousand plus yards in each of his first five NFL seasons. You could tell going into that game because of how he talked about it, leading in how much you wanted to get.

In the end zone.

Hadn't been in the end zone in quite some time, So Cody Ford is the easy answer.

I would go with that.

But if not Jamar Chas and finding the end zone and finding his way in the NFL record, I.

Would also say the delivery of the game might be when the Arizona Cardinals put the posted stamp on the envelope and delivered the letter to the mailman in that effort that they mailed in last week.

Yeah, no have tanking that people want to know does a team tank? That was a team I made the observation they don't really have players that tackle. They have escorted. They just escorted players down the field until that player trip they did.

They showed at one point like, hey, this is what we could have done if we didn't mail it in. Yah, we're going to utilize your poor safety and tackling on a touchdown pass that should have never been a touchdown. Outside of that, they could have not shown any less care in being on a football field than what was on display last week.

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You have a chance to set the sack record?

Are you aware? Somebody asks in that question against Joe Burrow. Here's what he had to say.

What I've known absolutely, I've seen his face on the ground looking up at me saying high Miles and Hi Joe too many times, So yeah, I figured he'd be a at the top.

Yeah, he's at the top, twelve time sacked by Garrett along with Lebar Jackson. As for Joe, he says he will not do anything differently today to avoid getting sacked, and if he gets sacked, well, Cess lev where is Joe.

Yeah, I'm certainly not gonna overcompensate either way. I'm not gonna go out of my way to not let him get the record, and I'm not gonna go out of my way to let him get the record either. I'm gonna go and play football. There's gonna be situations that a sack is the best of the bad outcomes of that play, and maybe I take one, and there's gonna be other situations that I'm about to get sacked and

Every play so different. Yeah. Did you get what I did there? Yeah, Cesslavi, it's really say love.

Yeah.

Did you get that.

Robbie Nevill's song nineteen eighty seven?

Yeah, Robbie Neville, he was a great singer God Bless. I heard him on your show. No, he's not on my show. Let's talk about this, do you? Miles Garrett last week was a vocal point for the Steelers. They almost sacrificed the outcome, but they did sure that Garrett didn't get a set. I did sacrifice that. That was a poor choice strategy.

Now I think the Bengal should sacrifice the outcome as well. I think they should play with extra linemen on the field for much of the afternom. I think in all, I like, I don't expect Joe Burrow to change how he operates. I expect Zach Taylor to change how he calls plays.

Or he should.

I mean, it doesn't mean anything if Joe Burrow doesn't get through this.

Game today like that.

That's the thing to me, Like we're talking Miles Garrett. Great gets at sack right, he could get against Joe Flacco as well. That was the the main talking point from last Monday for me was how quick Zach Taylor came out and said Joe was gonna play.

Because I've already seen enough. Joe had the.

Back to back good games against Miami in Arizona. There's nothing left to play for You've already proven who you are. If if Joe's the guy today, are you are you catering it deffinitely?

Are you calling this more close to us?

Are you getting more quick game out, are you doing more play action to move the pocket?

Are you doing more max protect two man routes.

That's what I want to know, because the one thing that completely changes with the conversation for Cincinnati Bengals fans tomorrow is is if you're talking about going into an offseason getting Joe Burrow healthy again, I.

Would say that Jake Browning, you know, Joe Flacco is a Super Bowl MVP, has that a great career. Joe Burrow is arguably the best quarterback in the sport. Would you like to be the answer to a trivia question?

Yeah?

Great, you're gonna get a chance to play today. And Miles Garrett Sacksya, You'll go down in NFL history as the guy that he sacked.

I Tony, I'm with you. I didn't have a.

Huge issue with Joe playing against the Dolphins or the Cardins. Nope, fine, he worked his ass off to come back. You want to send a message that we're all about trying to win no matter what I understand it. This is week eighteen. They have a lot of work on their hands that starts tomorrow. Do you want to complicate things by adding a question about your quarterback's health.

The best defensive player in the NFL is playing for history today.

In life, you make compromises, and the compromise for Joe would have been you got a chance to come back. You played great, awesome, see in April. I wouldn't haven't played today.

And like down I I'll watch today.

Through my fingers because the the only thing that makes today's game matter.

Make compromise.

Yeah, you make a compromise doing the show with us.

Yep, we get it. I don't make a compromise. I make a poor business decision doing this show. They made a few in my life.

But the only thing that matters about today's game is if it affects next year negatively.

Yep.

What can have the biggest negative impact on next year season an injury to the quarterback. This isn't about Miles Garrett. They can be playing anybody. They can be playing any team with a bad defensive line and edge rush we've never heard of. I don't want to play him today. That's maybe not the most popular opinion. Joe wouldn't like it. But today's game, if they win, we shrug our shoulders and go cool. Get started on next year, Today's game,

Why even roll the dice fellas, We got to take a break. It's time for the news and then after that we'll get into more discussion about today's game and perhaps the repercussions if said injury occurs. Because all of this is fodder, as they say, gris for the mill I want to know. On the Rnelle Carriers pregame show presented by Your Cincinnati to Carlo and Johnny's on seven Reservation WLW, Tip of Vala and esp had fifteen thirty.

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And now pregame sports Talk less than three hours until kickoff thet take Horse Stadium, Bagels at Browns and were at the Holy Grail. Whereas it's the epicenter of pregaming. As we know it. This is where you want a pregame. Yeah, I'm on in here. You not only get to see the three of us, you get to convivolate with other Bengals fans that are herelate. I made that word up pretty good. That's not bad, but it's festive.

I gonna say, I I have like this melancholy kind of vibe today because I love doing this show with you guys. I mean, there's lots of things that I really enjoy about my job, really and love doing the show on Mondays with with Tony that was temporarily taken away from me great, but I I thoroughly look forward to this every single Sunday. And and you're a great sport because you we give you a hard time and you know, wail away at you occasionally. But I it's

I didn't say you could. I didn't say you could touch me. I'm sorry, make it weird.

I enjoyed doing this too. It is fun, my man. My age to get up at the hour I get up to do this usually is only for one reason. Yeah, but this is good to get up early in the morning.

My twenty twenty six were already being in a dark place. If I didn't have this show after the Bearcats Liberty Bowl and no yesterday arena to a great start.

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Hot at the NFL saw them last night. Seattle Seahawks are the one seed in the NFC. We've talked about a lot of other teams this year, talked about the Rams, have talked about the forty nine ers, talked about a lot of other teams, the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFC.

Last night's what Seattle did.

Jacksonville Jaguars going to Week eighteen with a chance for the one seed. They win, Denver loses. They're the one who saw that coming. You know, you go back to Week two, Bengals beat them, the game that Joe Burrow got hurt. Nobody was talking about that team even being a playoff team. Despite the fact that the AFC South wasn't expected to be very good, they have thus far held off a great.

Challenge from the Houston Texans. I'm gonna say that AFC South turned, yeah into two contenders.

Liam Cohen, you know, we've talked about it on this show. Coaching matters in this league, and Trevor Lawrence finally has a coach who knows what he's doing, at least on the offensive side of the ball. But they have a really complete team. They have one of the great wins of the season, going to Denver and winning handily. That Jacksonville team. You know, it's the Jags, and there's a little bit of a stigma about him. I wouldn't want to play them though, and they may get Round one off.

What is going on in Seattle though, I mean other than the fact that they have a well rounded team, a good team, but their quarterback playoff there has been outstanding. When no one else could win with that quarterback, all of a sudden, that guy is winning with him.

It is a well balanced team. Yeah, sharbon Ay and Kenneth Walker. They remember a name talking about draft names, Gray's Abel was the name we talked about in Cincinnati a lot. He's had a great rookie year for Seattle. Jackson Smith and Jigma has been all world for that team. One of the quiet moves they went and got Cooper Cup. Yeah, who's been solid and it's a great defense. It's it's unique because we.

Talked about superlatives in the NFL a lot.

There's probably six names you could throw out who legitimately deserve to be Coach of the Year in the NFL this year.

I saw tweet last night, listen to nine guys and each one of them Zach Taylor was not one of them.

Each one of them. I'm thinking that guy's got a good case.

That guy's got a good case. Watching Seattle last night and their defense versus what we've seen with the Bengals all season.

It's a different sport.

It's striking how just fundamentally good they are right, their players are in position, and they get the guy to the ground who's got the football. It's hard, I get it. They make it look easy them In the Houston Texans. It's hard hitting and it's physical and they swarm to the ball. But there's such value in just playing fundamentally sound football, as cliche as it sounds. See that with

Coordinator in Baltimore.

Oh, I'm sure in the back of his mind he's thinking, you know, the guy that can help to us take this to the next level Number twenty two in Cincinnati.

Really, no, I think so it's that made you speachless. It's also though I thought for a second there, But.

Also with Seattle, as good as they've been, how many like star players can you name on the defense? If you didn't just watch the game last night, right, they're not full of stars, but like it's it's something I've talked about now. I think for the last three years in Cincinnati, I don't feel like the scheme matches the personnel. In Seattle, the scheme has to match the personnel because they don't have the star power on the defensive side

Power on defense.

The division where the La Rams are in the playoffs and the San Francisco forty nine.

Ers are in the playoffs. Yep, let's talk about the performer of the week. Not necessarily here from Cincinnati, but league wide. It's brought to you by Crown Royal, the official whiskey of the Bengals, bringing the spirit to every game this season. Both of you I'm sure at this at some point in your lives have had a Crown Royal. So if you did, we're gonna have one. It's probably not difficult to pick up the performer of the week.

We're gonna have one to toast the end of the show, another successful season for us before we get out of here.

At eleven. I can't do it. I had a an off the field moment with Crown Royal that I promised I would tell you about this week, But go right ahead.

Who is your performer of the week. I made a Jamar Chase.

You know, it's interesting if you look at his numbers compared to last year, they pale in comparison. They're still awesome. We talk about like wasting Joe Burrow. They have gotten three stellar seasons from Jamar Chase. He's gonna walk away from here whenever he does as the best wide receiver in the history of the franchise, which is saying something given how good this team historically has been at that position. Finally found the end zone last week one hundred and

I would performer of the week would be the performance of Arizona as a team to tray an NFL team last week.

I went to the whole league level.

You want to talk about wasting years b Jon Robinson, Yes, ninety three yard touchdown run, well over two hundred and twenty five total yards in a upset win over the Rams last week. Which makes today interesting because the Bucks win yesterday. Now you've got the Bucks rooting for their rival, the Saints. You've got the Panthers rooting for their rival the Falcons. Today they play each other. If the Falcons win and Panthers are in Saints win, Bucks are in

And I'll also add Performer of the Week begrudgingly. Derrick Henry. Yeah, because now the Baltimore Ravens are favored to win the AFC North if they win that game tonight in Pittsburgh. The Steelers playing without DK Metcalf. But you know, we've watched the Ravens this year at times, including against Cincinnati in the first game on Thanksgiving, wondering why don't they give him the football? They said screw it. Last Saturday

And he did.

And if i'm John.

Harball, oh, they do that with Lamar back tonight.

Yes, you have to in that game tonight, you absolutely have to. I love watching him play. I'm no Ravens fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I love watching running backs like that in games like that, where they're almost literally putting the team on their shoulders.

Can I tell you my Crown Royal story? Yeah, it's quick, Okay, so nineteen I think it's eighty nine. I can't. I think it was nineteen eighty nine. I was working at Channel five. I had glory days. Jerry Springer, Yes, got Norma, got pat so they get beat. I think the Seahawks feed him. It was Sam coming out saying, don't come in the locker room. There's a bunch of guys on the floor with body bags and they wouldn't have the

Turk Schoner was the Bengals postgame show host when I first started at the radio stations. He was and I would have to run the board for Turk and Buddy Ryan. And Buddy Ryan would do the postgame show from his house in Georgetown, Kentucky, and would like fall asleep during breaks. I watch him the four o'clock games and he went a buddy Buddy stand by. Turk Shooner top ten nicest person.

I've ever met. He is sweet guy. He is Turk. God bless him. He was wonderful. But boy, that could have got south in a hurry. I hit him with a camera brick, So you're gonna knocked and put on the injured list.

Your Crown Royal story doesn't involve you actually drinking crown.

It probably involved church during So there's no reason you can't drink some today. Yeah, we're coming up on ten twenty one.

You can pour some cocon int one.

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I don't think we listened to the external stuff. I don't think we he's our coach. We view him as the same as we view him the first week. You know, we got to unmost respect for him.

And uh yeah, Like I.

Think that's more media stuff that's more outside noise than knowing. I mean, half of them know we're gonna be here next year, you know what I'm saying. So it's like we don't we don't really look at that. You know, we played, we played for the franchise, we played for our coaches, we played for the names on the front and back of our jersey. So it's like it's more than just like stuff that's just online.

Okay, Well, we all know what's going on in Cleveland. It probably will be a changing of the guard, I think with that with that coaching staff, although I like Jim Schwartz. Yeah, maybe he survives. I don't know, but it seems like Stefanski's on thin ice up there. He's been there six years.

He's one of those guys like I asked this all the time about Zach Taylor or Zach Taylor will let go? Would other teams be interested in hiring him as head coach? I think with Kevin Stefanski, the answer is yes.

Well, there was literally talk of a trade between teams coaching, trade between our draft picks for coach trade. So he's well regarded inside the NFL, but he's in an impossible suchuation in Cleveland, just in.

One of those situations where you just wonder if the time and place is time to move on right, Like like you said, Stefanski is if he's let go tomorrow, he has a new job as quick as he wants it. He's going to have multiple suitors, and I think that speaks to his talent and what he can do. But maybe the voice in that locker room is needed to have a change. You talk about Cleveland though, they're gonna

Offensive line is a little bit.

They've drafted well and still a extremely extremely talented defense. And if you look at where the AFC North is, there's a game that's going to be played tonight where the losing team may very well also have a coaching vacancy. So I think the AFC North is transforming into a little bit of a different stage where you talk about the talent on the roster and the coaching. The Bengals could put themselves in a good spot starting next year with other questions in this division.

I would be willing to back Kevin Stefanski was not responsible for that disastrous Deshaun Watson deal, so unfortunately he's probably gonna be the fall guy for it. We do a segment on the pregame show, the Network pregame show Tony where we talk about quarterback play, focusing on the other team's QB. What about shandor Sanders because Cleveland's not going to draft in the top two, right, so they're not going to get Mendoza. How do you I was surprised that Chador fell as far as he did in

I think using the word could is appropriate. I think he's been really good, but he's not been good enough to be like you got your guy. I think he's shown flashes, and I think for the most part, the way he's handled himself has been the right way.

He said the right things.

But yeah, it's it's hard because now you're doing it without your top wide receiver and Fannin, Yeah you're you're doing it without Judkins. You just have this depleted roster and all these questions. I don't know how you can fairly judge what he's being asked to do. But when you watch him, it's not like you watch and saving that guy's got no chance of playing in the National Football League. I just think you need more time to evaluate it.

Also, feel like the way they handled the offseason, I think it would be interesting if you could go back in time and create a scenario where Shadora You're the guy instead of or we're gonna go get Kenny Pickett then move on from him in Flacoh, we're gonna draft Dylan Gabriel. I could under stand why teams were a little bit hesitant as it relates to Shador Sanders because of everything around him that said, He's not a talentless guy.

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Well, it's a good thing we didn't do the show on Thursday or Friday. Lost my voice after going to the Miami Ohio State came in Dallas.

So oh boy, we're finally back. We're about eighty five.

That was a great game for Miami. My goodness, Miami is there. I think Indiana is the best team left. Miami is the hottest team left. Would you agree?

Uh, Indiana might be the best day in the hottest right now, but Mimi not far behind.

So I'm not going to be able to go out to Arizona.

We'll see if we get the job and comes back in Miami could be playing a home game for the national titles. So yeah, and we'll definitely have some new teams.

All four teams have.

Really done nothing you know, over the last twenty twenty five years, So it's nice.

Most people like to see some new blood in there every once in a while.

Well, they got the Colts in Texans. Today they're playing this in Houston. Houston is giving ten and a half jackson Houston. Houston wins with the AFC South title. They win it with a win or a tie and a Houston lost their tie. Houston will win and the Jags lost their end. But here are the Texans lee they won, they won eight in a row and they're giving ten and a half to the Colts. What do you think Not only did.

They won eight row, they've had to play eleven straight weeks. They had their buy early, so I think they got to be you know, obviously watching the scores. A lot of teams are gonna be score watching and that's gonna be important. A lot of inflated lines here, and when you're laying you know, as big a line as this, I mean, when do they take the starters out if they see Jacksonville's.

Winning big, which I think will happen.

Also, Riley Leonard, I think going to him is the right choice here. You know that Houston pass rush is career, fierce number one defense, and they just couldn't put Philip Rivers and Harms way. You know, he gave it a try. But this is a team that you know, coming out of the break and they just thrower and seven. They can't get the job done after thereby. So I think Riley Leonard is gonna be able to do enough to

Trap play as far as I'm concerned.

Lee another bigger spread this afternoon and another team that will be scoreboard watching the New England Patriots. I thought one of the most workmanlike wins of the NFL season last week with what Drake May did against that Jets defense. They host the Dolphins, the numbers eleven and a half. As we mentioned, Patriots are still playing for a lot here this NFL season. What do you make of the line and the Patriots Dolphins?

Oh you you nailed it there, And I think the Dolphins, you know, it's a little bit of a farce. You look at the teams that they've beaten. They really have not beaten any good teams.

Of late, so they just happened, you know, have to face some bad.

Teams and to getting him out at a harm's way. He's not the future here, quinn Ewers.

I think he's going to be a solid backup nothing more.

New England gets that number one spot with a Denver loss here, and I think they're gonna build a lead here, maybe seventeen to twenty points by that time.

He is the MVP in my opinion this year, and I think they end up, you know, taking their foot off the gas.

But I think they're gonna be up so big here, and this might be the game here quinn Ewers where he throws three or four picks here and you finally realize he just can't take the next step. Also, a Chan is going to be out for Miami and he's been there driving force guys like Waddle. I mean, he gets he gets you. You virtually tackle the guy or touch him and he's out for the rest of the game.

Seems like every game, So I like New England. Sometimes you gotta lay it if you want to play it. Patriots thirty four to thirteen.

Winner take all tonight in the AFC North Baltimore at Pittsburgh. Steelers won't have DK Metcalf again. Steelers did win the first game in Baltimore, but they are getting points at home tonight.

Lee, Who do we like?

I mean, you look at who's on deck here for Pittsburgh. I mean Aaron Rodgers trying his best but only generated four point three yards per pass attempt against the Browns last week.

Rogers has left throwing to a thirty five year old Adam feel and yeah, thirty one year old Marquez Valdez scandling tight end Darnell Washington.

He was lost last week, but that broke an arm. DJs t K mecap really hurt his team here. And the defense, you know, they've got them great names, but you watch them, they're not getting the same production.

Their pass rushers can't get off, you know, blocks like they used to.

And guys can't make tackles in space like they used to. On the back end here, I like Baltimore.

Whoever plays quarterback, I don't think it makes a difference. Lamar Jackson Bee starts great. You know, you know they I think that they're fine, they're more big play potential.

I like Baltimore twenty seven to.

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I love it, absolutely love it all right. So today's game that has gripped the entire Nation Lee the four to twelve Browns and the six and ten Bengals. Bengals are giving seven and a half. How do you handicap a game like this where you don't really know what the agenda is for each team. I would think this is a tough one to handicap.

It is, but I just have this feeling in watching Shador Sanders and he's shown some signs of being a capable NFL quarterback, but he's trying to force too many plays here with third and four string players all over the field. He's own seven interceptions in the last three weeks here, and you know, he's just Haunt launching some hail Mary's at some point. And you know, I think the key emphasis for them is they want to get Miles Garrett that sack here.

So that's what losing franchises do.

On the other side, is this going to be, you know, question mark Joe Burrow's last.

Game is a Cincinnati Bengal.

I personally don't think the top quarterbacks here that are in the draft coming out are game changers here for the Jets and the Raiders. So some teams, even like my Dolphins, might be in the market to trade for him. So he's sending out crypto vessages here, but I think he is laser focused. He wants to go out on top if it is his last game as a Bengal. If not, he wants to finish the season strong.

And look what they've done.

Uh, you know, over seventy percent covering against the spread when he starts here.

Bengals victory here, thirty four to seven of the Browns Ley.

You just you just gave sports talk radio something to talk about this week. Well, we'll see. I don't know. I hope it's not. I I tend to think it's not. I don't tend to think it's not. But you know, as they say, the only thing constant sports is change. Uh hey man, great stuff. As always. We'll see how it all plays out. Take care and get your voice back.

Okay, guys, take care, be saved.

Thanks Lee, Lee Sturling. Let's stir the pot. Lee, that's what we need. That's just what we need to. Well, that's going to carry you guys for a couple of days. Appreciate it. Yeah, thanks Lee.

Yeah, because we got we got time now, it's all.

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I want to play a little game here. I'll see if we need to take a break. Ten forty seven. We got a little time here. Here's what happened on this day Sports history brought to you by Pellow Windows Indoors Making life brighter Pella Now pay later, bo What happened historically on this date.

Nineteen fifty eight, On their way to a NIT championship, the Xavier Musketeers would knock off Louisville in triple overtime WOW at Schmidfield House, beating the Cardinals by a score of eighty two Wow to eighty. It was on this date nineteen sixty one route to being the NBA's Rookie

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Yes, it was on this date in twenty eighteen. Jacob Evans with a game winning jumper from the top of the key with point four seconds to go in Philadelphia helps the Bearcats to a fifty five fifty three road win over the Temple Owls.

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Trey Hendrickson three and a half sacks Bengals keep their playoff hopes alive and wrap up a winning season for a fourth consecutive year with a nineteen to seventeen primetime road win over the Pittsburgh Steeling.

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It was on this state in nineteen seventy seven. Could I just throw this in please I The Houston Arrows skated in to Riverfront Coliseum and the Stingers promptly thumped them five to three.

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The attendance was the lowest in Stingers history. Four thousand and forty eight. Robbie Vittorik, who went on that season, scored fifty nine goals with fifty assists for one hundred and nine points. He belongs in the Hockey Hall of Fame.

Would go on to be the head coach of the New Jersey Devils.

Right.

And Paul Stewart, who was only with the team for forty games two hundred and forty one penalty minutes. Yeah, Paul Stewart was a goon that went on to become an NHL referee and skated for the Stingers on two separate occasions. Pretty interesting thing about that. Well, I'm just saying I like it. I mean, it's a little.

Different, but that's part of Cincinnati sports history.

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They should bring Drew sample in, bring Cody Ford in, put him in the backfield. I don't care Miles Garrett's gonna move around today. It is the job of those offensive linemen to keep number nine upright.

I'll put the spotlight on Chase Brown, who's fifty three yards away from his first one thousand yard season. He is one hundred and thirty four yards away from hitting the fifteen hundred yard mark from scrimmage. They've got an interesting decision to make this offseason about Chase Brown because he is a running back, and we all know how the league views running backs. We all know the investment the Bengals have made in their offensive way up and read.

Yeah, I think I think all those players are in the spotlight. Tony said the offensive line that players that have played well in the last three weeks against subpar teams, does that continue today and does that factor in more than it should in the offseason. Don't know about that. I'm gonna say, shad Or Sanders, he goes, I've seen enough quarterbacks that look like that it's their first day in long pants and come in here and beat the Bengals.

You know, I'm never gonna call myself a Colorado fan, and I was watching their games, you know, as a Nebraska guy. So you know, I thought that he did a great job, you know, and collaboration with a lot of other people that that really did a great job at Colorado. And so then for him to come in the league and as a rookie have success, I think

So that's our spotlight player of the week.

Dian'll be at the game today.

Why wouldn't it be? I would? I would my son was quarterback in an NFL team and my team wasn't playing, I'd be at every game. One might practice.

One might argue, with the transfer portal open that Dion would be best serve upgrading what was a bad roster at Colorado this year. But no, you've put the staffs for certainly blame him for coming to watch this way.

I could see that too, But still a pretty big deal.

No doubt about it. Then, But Dion back in the town where he played ball, it's coming, or he could have played football, they Mike brim Ah, My goodness.

Either the The other thing I think I want to talk about at this point is whether or not Garrett does get the sack record and whether or not regardless of where they play him. Uh, does he just get the record or does he have a multiple sack day? If you had to make money on it, which you can on any website, what would you do, Tony.

I would say that he gets the record. You you want to talk about it. He's already got an unbelievable motor. Yeah, you're talking about it, the motor of Miles Garrett today understanding this is his last opportunity and who knows if you ever get this opportunity again to at your name in the record books in a single season.

I can't imagine what his get off is going to be like today. How many sat? How many does he get today? Yeah? To pay you had to pick a number the over under on sacks. I would set the over under at one and a half and I'd probably say over. I'd probably put him at two.

Especially man for last week was held sackless. I think he gets to today when he talked about this already. It just if I had to see him get too against Jake brown If I was in charge, he'd be sacking Jake Browning or a guy off the street, not Joe Burrow. Zach Taylor called him the best defensive player in football, and I agree with that. I think about like when he got drafted, there was this boise. He has got other interests. He's into other things. He likes dinosaurs.

How dumb do those folks though? Exactly?

So?

You got Miles, Garrett, Max Crosby, Trey Hendrickson. I'm just wondering these big offseason contracts that and Hendrickson. We know his story wasn't a contract, it was in an extension. Arenegotiated extension. But the fact that the matter is, did the Bengals make the right decision with Hendrickson knowing what happened to him this season, knowing that they don't like to gamble with players over thirty years old? You look at Garrett, Terripic, Crosby got hurt. Did they make the

I think the answers are yes and no.

I think as it relates to twenty twenty six and beyond, you're seeing why they hesitated. He's an older player who runs the risk of injury. He has been very durable, but the older you advance, the more likely you are to suffer injury, and that's why they didn't invest in him beyond twenty twenty five. I just wonder what it would have looked like had they traded him when the offseason really got underway. Last year, what could they have gotten and what would that look like for this year's team?

And beyond well, there was no way on God's green earth, as far as I could see, that anybody was going to give up two first round draft picks for Trey Henderson and even at the deadline they probably could have gotten somewhere early second day pick.

It also becomes one of the one of the top talking points after today's game. Facis because as much as do you pay him, do you not pay him? It was the distraction that came along with Trey Hendrickson that became more of an issue. He held his own press conference in golf attire.

At Bengals training camp. It was a back and forth all off season, right.

The one thing we talked about the way this roster needs to be constructed in the offseason. They've got to find a way to eliminate all the other distractions over the court and Shamar Stewart distraction, the Trey Hendrickson distraction. They've got to be able to just get back to football and building this roster and eliminate the rest.

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It wasn't necessary because this is not an invasion. We didn't occupy a country. This was an arrest operation. This is a law enforcement operation. He was arrested on the ground in Venezuela by FBI agents read his right and removed from the country.

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I want to be a I don't want to want to work in the front office. I don't want to be scouting guys in the offseason. I want to do what I do, and I want to do it at a high level when I have and I'm going to continue to find more and more ways that I can help myself get better, help the team get better, and put ourselves in good positions.

He has the ear of management and ownership. Tony, what do you think he says about this team this year to ownership, about what it needs for next year to be unlike this year.

I think he's said it already a lot in how he's handled press conferences over the last month or so of this season. I think it's very clear that the defense isn't good enough, and quite frankly, it shouldn't take Jill Burrow having to go to them and say, hey, the defense isn't good enough. That should be something that's obvious to everybody. I think the GM conversation is interesting because, as we've talked about off air at time, there isn't really a GM role with the Cincinnati Bengals.

So he mentions not wanting to be a GM who.

Is going to step up and take that role, because more than any year in the past, Zach Taylor has taken a lot of criticism from Bengals fans and even from myself a lot. Duke Tobin has been under more fire, I feel like this season than he has in quite some time, and deservedly so. And I think that if Joe Burrow is taking a true serum that's probably the biggest thing right now is the decisions that are being made about the personnel via the draft and via free agency have to get better.

I think it's going to be interesting in five weeks or whenever it is, when Joe Burrow makes the round at the Super Bowl, because last year he starts on the the t Higgins thing calls him in need did that in Dallas on Monday night in December, but it continued and Joe goes to the Super Bowl, one of the most highly sought after guests as you can imagine, representing you know, whichever brands, and was asked repeatedly about the roster. T Higgins, Trey Hendrickson, Mike GASICKI. I would

YEP.

I would imagine he is going to be pressed about his relationship with the Bengals. I think it's going to be really interesting to see and hear how he answers those questions.

I did a segment going in for Willie on Friday. It was it was a survey that this this woman, Lisa Miller did with gen Zers and Burrow is fringe gen Z. I mean, he's right there, neither one of you guys or gen Z. But the survey is what do you want to be more of in twenty twenty six? And overwhelming it was I want to be happy? What did Burrows say it as last news conference? What's your

I don't even necessarily think that that is a generational thing.

What human being?

Well it was a gen Z serch, sure, but what human being six seven years into a career doesn't go Okay? Have I gotten out of this as much as I hope for? And will I get out of it? What I'm looking for if I stay in it? He only has so much control over where he goes in the coming years. But let's say the Bengals won the Super Bowl this year. Let's say they win it next year. At some point here soon the Bengals will come to

And if so, if it is different, does the offseason, which starts four o'clock today, does that become different?

Do we hear from Duke Tobin earlier than we normally do.

Does Duke Tobin or someone make a statement on hey, this year wasn't what we wanted to be, but we're gonna attack this offseason in a way that we've never done before. Like and I know that's just words, but still something different I think would go a long way of Hey, it's not going to be the same old, same old off season. This year wasn't good enough, Last year wasn't good enough, and we'll be damn if it's gonna If it's gonna continue, we're making a change and.

It starts right now. If you don't hear that, then you know they don't care, right. You gotta hear that. There's gotta be some sort of statement other than oh, by the way, we're raising your season ticket. It's gonna be more of a statement than Zach Taylor doing it after the game. Exactly. Let's take a look at how every piece is important, because every piece is important when you're talking about dominoes, that is the official piece of

I will line up DJ Turner Dax Hill on a game like this. Fannon is out for the Cleveland Browns. Judkins is out for the Cleveland Browns. The I don't even know if you call a playmaker. Still at this point, they still have Jerry Judy, And if I'm sure Door Sanders and I don't have my top target and in my top ball carrier, I would say, Okay, how do I find ways to get Jerry Judy the ball?

That comes down to DJ Turner and Dax Hill.

So I'll make this about next season for the first time in quite a while. The season comes to an end and you could look at the Bengals offensive line and go, that's the group I want next year. It's been a decade since you could say that, right, It has been a decade since at the end of the season he said I want those five guys back. And there's fair conversations to have about the long term future of Orlando.

Brown or are they gonna move a Marius Mims.

To left tackle. You can never have enough offensive lineman. But the five guys they have right now, that's a pretty good offensive line. Dalton Reisner has said, I want.

To be back.

Brought this up before. That's an important piece for next year. Number one is a good player. Number two want to show me things are different.

Cool.

Then within the next week you get this done and go dult Reiser's back instead of well, you know, we're not sure and he gets a free agency and a team comes in and suddenly you got to figure out who's going to play guard on top of all the other stuff you have to fix. So if things are different in the coming days, there is an announcement that Dalton Reisner's locked.

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If you look at some of the contract numbers speculation of it out there, the numbers being thrown around for Joseph Osai are around fourteen to sixteen million dollars? Are you willing to buy back into Joseph osaih With what you've seen.

I'll ask you is how different is see than Carl Lawson Junior and his talent and in his delivery. Oh, that's a great question. It's a good comparison, and it's a guy who has not been able to stay healthy consistently top end. You love what you see? Yeah, you've just not seen that game in game out. Someone will offer him.

A good amount in a contract because of upside, because he's still young. If you're the Bengals and you have so many decisions to make and that is a position of need, how much are you looking into it Joseph Osai?

So the Karl laws In comparison is interesting to me because I think as a player there's something there. Also, the Bengals said no to Carl Lawson and brought in Trey Hendrickson. Sure, who's this year's version of Trey Hendrickson. Trey Hendrickson was not the biggest name available in free agency. Trey was a guy who a lot of folks wondered, you know, in New Orleans that last year did he just pile up a bunch of meaningless sacks? Is he

There's a team that's gonna overpay him.

But you better have an alternative. And when it has come to watching players leave over the last three or four seasons, they have rarely had, either in house or from elsewhere, a viable alternative.

All Right, a couple of games it't matter. Let's start with New Orleans Atlanta because that will dictate who wins the NFC South Atlanta at home, giving three and a half. If Atlanta wins, Atlanta is and is. I think the way the math works, I know Tampa is.

Out at where Carolina is in. If wins, the Buffs are Yeah, how does this one go?

I'll tell you what.

In a season of questions for some of these teams, the Saints have their quarterback in the future now, Saints playing without Olave today, They've lost Kamara along the way, but I still give them a fighting chance, just because I don't know which version of Kirk Cousins I'm gonna get. I know that Lunch and Kyle Pitch we're both questionable. They do have Bejon Robinson. They have built this up

I'll take the Falcons.

I just think the number is a little bit too hefty. Chuck is playing really well for the Saints. Atlanta's playing well as a team right now. But I'll take the three and a half Gamino Orleans.

I want to jump over to a later, gain much later game, Chargers in Denver, Denver giving fourteen and a half. I'm sorry, fourteen is now the line on this one. That's a hefty number for a game that you know, Denver is Denver's got to win. Denver wins. They're the number one seed in the AFC, which is odd because we talk.

About Coach of the Year, no one really brings up Sean Payton, talk about AFC contenders, no one really starts with the Denver Broncos. Here they are in a position to be the number one overall seed. Trey Lance is starting for the Chargers. This game doesn't mean anything for them. I will take at home. I'll take Denver laying.

A big Chargers are gonna be the seven correct ye, so lay down effort by Jim Harball where he basically has started preparing for New England this week. They'll play New England. If they lose, they will and it won't be closed.

Give me the Broncos. Okay, and obviously the game tonight Baltimore Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh getting three and a half at home. We talked a little bit about this. Don't matter who starts at quarterback, they're gonna pound the running back. So I'm just guessing you guys are gonna go with Baltimore.

Yeah, no, DK Metcalf. That offense is shaky when he's healthy, take him out. You saw what it looked like last week against against Cleveland. My guess is John Harball isn't so dumb that he gets away from last week's formula. They go on the road, they cover the number, they beat Pittsburgh, and they they send Mike Tomlin into a lame duck season.

You know, it's interesting because they don't have Darnau Washington in this one either. I don't know how I am Rodge are gonna get it done. If not for game Well and Warren, this though, would be the most Mike Tomlin win of all. Yeah, where it just feels like they've rolled over, they're done. Stick a fork in him and he finds a way to win it. That being said, Baltimore finds a way to sneak in and in a wide open AFC MO if Lamar gets healthy into the playoffs,

Let's go lightning round head coach's stability. Gotta make it quick Miami, new coach or same old, same old. I'll say new coach.

I'll say same old because they already sacrifice the GM.

Aaron Glenn of New York stable or unstable. I think they'll give him one more year.

Side stat with the Jets on pace to be the first team ever to finish the season with zero team interceptions.

If they don't get one today, it's the Jets. So who knows? Absolutely all right? The Browns. I think this is Kevin Stefanski swan song with with the Browns. But he'll pop up somewhere else. Yes, moving on, Yes, okay, moving on. Tennessee already has moved on, so they'll have a new head coach. I think it's interesting in Vegas. What are you do in Vegas? I just saw where Schefter said there's going to have there that they're gonna move on for Pete Carroll. What do you think?

I think you have to you're gonna have the number one overall pick. Are you gonna start that new rebuild with Pete Carroll?

It's interesting during one of our breaks on ESPN, they showed the names of like the hottest coaching candidates. A lot of Redreads, a lot of Vans, Joseph's, a lot of Matt Naggi's, a lot of guys that you're like, eh, I think that maybe buys Pete Carroll another season. That maybe buys some of these guys one more season, because there just doesn't feel like there's that guy that the rest of the league covets as a head coach.

I'll tell you when you know you're old. On that same list was Chris Shula, now you know, and Jesse Minter Atlanta. This is an interesting study in Atlanta. Blank was ready to pull the trigger down there. What do you think, Tony? I still think you give him another year?

More so because of what Moe just described in the names that are floating out there, Atlanta's had to figure out quarterback.

They have some they have some talent on that roster.

I like Raheem Morris, seems like a fun guy to play for. They've got to start fresh at quarterback, so I wouldn't start fresh at head.

Coach Tampa, which I still don't know how Todd Bowles keeps his job. He's this this defensive guru, and their defense the last eight weeks it's been a fire drove. Their secondary is horrible. I know they've lost some players. Tampa may very well get in the playoffs. We'll see how today plays out. But Tony, what do you think.

I still think he's safe. I think it's been a lot of the offense too, that the inconsistencies of Baker Mayfield have hurt that team down the stretch, as well as the defense. That's been a total team collapse on both sides. But again, I go back to Moe's point, there's just not that many high level names out there, so I said they keep him.

They went eight and nine.

Regardless of what happens today, if you're the owner of that team, your mind should already be made up.

In Arizona. I think that's a four gun conclusion. Gannon's gone.

Ye, Darryl Johnson was working hard on TV last week doing the game for Fox, trying to keep Tunathan Gannon employed.

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That's amazing. I mean, that's a hell of an accomplishment. It speaks to how they've gotten better. They've got the performances have gone up, the graph has has gone north steadily, and you know, you've got to give Scott Peters a lot of credit for that, the new offensive line coach, the Bengals offensive line. I know in talking to those guys, they really believe in his techniques and fundamentals. They think that they work, they're going to work big time in

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But he does throw a pretty ball.

He does, I mean his arm talent, you know when you just look at him throw the football down the foot