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I'm great, thanks for having me.

Happy to be back, and I feel like the Buckeyes as a gift is a sign for things to come. Tomorrow night in Arlington, Texas, you can just kick back and eat Buckeyes all night. Pretty much the plan.

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We've got Chad Brendle on the way coming up at seven oh six to night to talk some UC football. Let's talk some Bengals in the moment and on Sunday,

Yeah.

I think that's the big takeaway really, is the fact that you know, they did what they were supposed to do. If they had squeaked out a seventeen thirteen win, we'd be having a much different conversation right now. And I think that's the thing that you really take away from each of the last two games, which has been they dominated an opponent, that they are much better than they have more talent than, they have a better quarterback. I think they have a better head coach than both those teams.

Now, obviously that's a team that's not very good.

I think Moeger described it as the NFL's version of an FCS opponent, and I think that's accurate. But you can't control who lines up across from Yeah, and I get and we talked a little bit about this last week. I get the default position of most who say it.

Doesn't matter or it will lead to the front office believing everything's okay.

I get that that's fair that's earned.

But for the moment, I can't do anything about the offseason hasn't happened.

I can only work on what they're doing now.

The way they've looked the last two weeks is how they should look against those teams, and let's go offensively, specifically, they have looked like the well oiled machine that we thought they could be and is a very dangerous offense.

I don't care who they're playing. Yeah, I'm looking at.

The way they have performed as an offense and it's been high level.

Yeah.

I think it doesn't matter necessarily who the players are. You're gonna get a similar scheme in trying to double team Jamar Chase, double team t Higgins, and then it's like, okay, well, what's Andre Josevas gonna do, what's Mikasiki gonna do? And how are you gonna stop Chase Brown? And the Bengals have done a great job of the all of those weapons, now, I think is sick. He had two catches for forty yards, but one of them was on a broken play deep

It's fine.

Well, we'll get into the Browns and Joe and that great debate of how much should Joe play, how much he should play? In a bit, let me let me while I'm thinking about let me let me ask something that raction to what Charlie Goldsmith, our guy said earlier this week. And then we'll continue searching for trags. But in the moment, this is a good tie in. And Charlie tweeted the following I think it was yesterday, and he said this doesn't change the degree to which the

Yeah? I think so.

So there's six and ten right now, right, six and ten right now? Yes, to be division champ this year. Technically you could be nine and eight. So that's three more wins. We're saying for arguments. If Joe Burrow doesn't get hurt and Joe missed what nine games because they went one and eight?

So is that are three more doable? Yes?

I think so. Do you think they lose the Jets game? Do you think they lose the Bears game? I mean, obviously the Buffalo game was a bit of a fluke, but they were better than the Green Bay Packers for a point, in that game at lambeau Field. Yes, they could have won that game. I don't think they would have turned the ball over five times against the Minnesota Vikings. Don't know that they would have won that game, but would agree with that if you assume they're going to

It'd be one thing if in most of.

The losses they struggled to score, and yet they lost a game scoring thirty seven, lost a game scoring thirty nine, lost a game scoring forty seven, And I mean, I'm sorry giving up yeah for scoring forty two, thirty eight, thirty one. So would in the games where they put up a lot of points and lost, how much of a difference would Joe have made? You see what I'm saying. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

And I don't. I don't know if I can convince myself that they're a playoff team. If Joe didn't get hurt.

I think the offensive efficiency would have just been a tick more and it would have been maybe one more possession leads to three more points or one less possession for the opposing team, because the Bengals can run the football effectively with Joe Burrow in the threat of the wide receivers, and that means that the other team doesn't touch the ball, meaning more complimentary football. So that's that's how I view it. I also think that Patriots game,

And that's the game.

That's the game in the grouping where I say that's the one I can easily flip.

Yeah, if Joe's the quarterback. Yeah.

And you know, I think, honestly, you could look at the Thursday night game against the Steelers and that could have flipped either way based off the way Aaron Rodgers was playing in that game. But I think early on against the Lions they had a chance, but they kept turning the ball over. Could that have been a different game. Those are hard to say, just because of how deep in it they were with Jake Browning at the time.

And I do believe Charlie's statement to be true.

And here's the I mean, think of this, here's the killer, and it's why they missing out on this season. In a season where Patrick Mahomes isn't in the playoffs and Lamar Jackson may not be in the playoffs, We're sitting here arguing, if Joe doesn't get hurt, they're nine and eight in a division champ.

That's all. It would have taken. Nine wins.

But at the start of the season, had you said they'd go nine and eight, we said, well, then the season's gone south. They're going to be better than nine and eight. And that's all they would have taken.

Yeah, all they needed to do was be the team they were last year. Oh yes, if they were the team they were last year, they'd be in the playoffs right now. It's it's it's amazing how similar to me it feels than a year ago from a year ago, because it is one possession here, one player there, one player misses this play, whatever it might be, and that kept them out of at least contending with the AFC.

And just think they and I go back to Jake Browning and boy from from how we viewed Jake to where Jake's Jak is right now, and what his future is.

I remember when Joe first got.

Hurt, we were all quoting, like the storyline was, well, he may be the thirty third best. Question, He's at least the thirty third best quarterback in the NFL. He's brother the best backup quarterback. And he went out for three games and looked like he never played the game before.

Yeah, they didn't. They were non competitive for three weeks with Jake Brown.

I remember before the season somebody from ESPN wrote the best backup quarterbacks in the NFL. He was number two behind Kirk Cousins, and I was thinking, all right, great, And then on top of that, when Burrow goes down, he leads this comeback win yep, at the very last second to win. You're like, all right, we're gonna be fine. Just get Joe back, we'll be fine.

And you're right.

He did look like he never played football before. I have no explanation for that. Appreciated how aggressive he was. He was always willing to push it and not afraid of that, but that that hurt him ended up ended up hurting him more than it helped him, and obviously hurt the team.

And I remember thinking, remember when we went through the whole debate when Joe first got hurt, well, is he gonna come back at all? Could he come back for the final three? And we were all doing the math, like, okay, with Flacco down control, can he be five hundred and just keep him alive till Joe comes back?

And they went without Joe, they went one and eight. Yeah, I mean, just saying.

That out loud, this team still with Jamar, Chase and t Higgins and Mike Kasicki and Jamar and Chase Brown and at the time Trey Hendrickson was healthy. That that that they went on and eight without their starting quarterback.

Yeah.

Do you think if Trey Hendrickson was healthy.

They went there? That's a good question too.

I think if Trey Hendrickson was healthy, they would have beat the Chicago Bears.

I would say that because you say what you want to about Trey, and whether you like Trey or don't like Trey, I think everybody asked can see Trey was.

Like the closer for this team.

Yeah, when it came like closing time in a game, it was Trey, go get the quarterback and wrap this thing up.

And they didn't have anybody to do that.

I would also would have loved to see what it looked like with Trey on the field against the Buffalo Bills. Yes, the way that Josh Allen had kind of played and in that moment, I don't know that it would have made that big of a difference. But again to your point, he was the closer, and that game against the Bears, Caleb Williams was just running around doing whatever he wanted

And they couldn't. And that just it's the same thing as last year.

You think of Tanner Hudson fumbling at the goal line, you think of day John Anthony's passenger if you're it's in Kansas City four sixteen, like all these little moments, it's just it leaves a bad taste in your mouth. It adds up to a third straight year without the playoffs. In the window that is Joe Burrow's career. What was harder to watch though last year this year, because I think it was this year.

Yeah, I would say it just became so deflating with Joe's injury and then how miserable it was for three weeks with Jake, and then a little bit of boost of hope with Joe, and then the the the Flacco and then the thought the defense just for so long was just tough to watch. More on that as we continue, Let's get a check on news and talk more about the offense. Chase Brown season had more. He is Austin Ellmore. I'm Lance, but callister. It's the Cincinnati Tax Resolution powered

We were talking.

During one of the breaks and we've all confirmed, both Fran, Mike, and myself all confirmed at some point in our lives we banged pots and pans out.

The back door.

I'll never forget as a kid on New Year's my grandma always saying, grab your pots and pans, and she would open the sliding patio door and we'd all bang potts for I think it was for good luck? Was it for good luck? And it was also eat Sauer Kraut, which I refused to do. I like Sara Kraut, but my grandma always insisted, bang the pots and pans, eat Sara Kraut for New Year's Eve.

We had this conversation on the on the air earlier today sixty three sixty yes her name to three.

Talking about thirty and apparently it's to get rid of the demons, the demons and the spirits and the bad energy and the bad juju around the.

Now it's taking on a much more important meaning that I was gonna say, does that mean that you go back to that. Now, maybe I revert to my childhood. We might need to do I never did that though, never did anything like that.

See, you should catch up and do it tomorrow night.

Well there's other people who say that, you know, you open your front door and open your back door to let all the bad energy out.

And I don't know. I have no idea. There's a lot I want, you know, I want you to do. What's that?

I want you to bang pot and pans and eat Buckeyes tomorrow night. I can eat the Buckeyes and I'll tell you what. If we win, if we beat the Hurricanes, there'll be some banging or something going on.

Oh, I can't believe.

I have memories of banging a pot and pan out to my Grandma.

Insisted, did you ever like them? You break them or anything? It'll just like making the noise.

No, it was the big like frying pan skillet, so oh yeah, and the pots and that you.

Boil what you bang, bang, bang bang.

It'd be like twelve degrees and then shut the door. Did you ever accidentally take one upside the head?

By Jesse? We knew what we were doing. Okay, all right, I'm just looking for answers.

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I love the quote from.

Zach Taylor this week who said, and I think I'm paraphrasing, I trust him in all three phases, yeah, meaning catching the ball, running the ball, and blocking that dude, I mean, if you talk about a season that turned as the offensive line got better, because you remember, like the first three or four weeks, we were all quoting, like Pro Football Focus that he was, you know, hit behind the line of scrimmage for what should have been like minus

Yeah, I mean, it's been unbelievable and and it really felt like it took them a while, not just to get the run game going, but also to get him involved in the past game. And I guess part of the reason was, you know, without Joe Burrow, I don't know if it's adjusting stuff at the line of scrimmage. I don't know if it's moving him around in the formation or whatever it was, and in the playbook maybe being shrunk for Joe Flacco and or Jake Browning. But

Yeah, and Joe it appears feels comfortable checking down with him when something isn't there. They've targeted him. I think I wrote down he has sixty five catches on eighty two targets this year, So let's see, seventeen times five is eighty five. So they're targeting him about five times a game, which is up from a little about four last year. So I you know, you're only going to get so many targets in an offense that has Chase

I love that.

Yeah, eighty two targets this year, he's sixty five all of last year, and that's up from obviously fifteen in his rookie season. But you're exactly right. And I remember reading the article that Paul Danner Junior wrote last offseason about the training that he and Andre josavash had done, and how Chase Brown wasn't really raining in like a running back.

He was turning like a wide receiver.

And you're starting to see that paid dividendce the point you made about checking it down when the pocket gets muddled and when Burrow just needs to get rid of it. He's one of those guys that can turn a three yard checkdown into a thirteen yard or into a if it's third and fourteen, he can get the first down out of that. He did that against Arizona. That's a huge weapon to have.

Yeah, And I was talking with lap Bundy down on Bengals line how it's almost equated to like a game controller where there's like a turbo you pressed the button for a little turbo boost and jamar or a Chase that first step when he gets to it, he gets to it, and he did a little jump step to make a guy miss, and he's not afraid to then plow into somebody and make contact. That's that's I mean, we've just run through pass catching, running the ball well, not afraid of contact, able to make you miss.

That's a complete package of what you're looking for.

I think his ability to to get top speed on a misdirection or when he changes direction is really impressive. I think back to the opening drive of the season. They ran the ball down the throat of the clear Eveland Browns and they got inside the five and they were struggling a little bit. Hand the ball off to chase to the right. He comes basically to a dead stop and then just sprints to the left side and

To keep on the theme, he was a let's see, he was what a fifth round pick? What we're at No.

Third?

He was a fifth round pick. Number one sixty three overall number one sixty three, and this is year number three.

So if I were to say to you, let's get ahead of things and lock him up now, that to me would seem perfect for a team that has waited too.

Long on other guys.

Yeah, in terms of making a statement to the rest of your team and just locking up and taking care of something offensively that you shouldn't worry about once you get it done.

Yeah, I think this year shows his value more than maybe any point in his career. Obviously with the amount of injuries that they've had. I think the way Zach has talked about him, the way that Joe has talked about him, even a little bit, the way Jamar Chase has talked about him, you start to realize just how important he is to the offense. You draft a guy with this vision in mind, yep, that can take over and be such a big weapon in your offense. And

Now is the time to lock him down.

He will be next year, he'll be still only twenty six. His workload has not been excessive. They haven't run him into the ground first season forty four attempts last year to twenty nine this year two nineteen with one game to go, so he's not even at five five hundred career rushing attempts and going into an age twenty six season. There shouldn't be any worry about tread on the tire.

Side, say now we don't have to worry about him.

And the other thing we've seen over the last couple of years has been the renaissance of the running back position in the NFL. Sakuon Barkley, Bjon Robinson, if you watched him last night, unbelievable. Those are dudes that have raised the price a little bit.

Yep.

And if the NFL is going to get back to running football, I'm not. I don't know that it's ever going to be a run first league again. But if you're starting to see value at that position across the league and guys that are not afraid to turn around and hand it off twenty times a game, twenty five times a game like they used to, then that positional

All right, that was a heck of a segment. Let's do one more.

Let's talk Geno Stone when we continue, So we have to debate how how good a segment that will be.

I wouldn't walk across the street to see Genos quick, kid, did you?

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Let's review last week's defensive play of the game brought to you by O'Connor at Shanny and Levy Attorneys. You know attorneys you trust. Visit oh A L dash Law dot com. We'll go with Miles Murphy in the sack. That's five and a half sacks. Now he has the team lead, I said Monday night on Bengals Line to me, if you're tracking the performance of Miles Murphy, I look at performances and I say, early stage, it's a blip. Okay, that was good. That was a blip on the radar.

Would you agree? I agree with you one hundred percent. I think that is one of the things you take with you going into the top season and knowing, Okay, this guy's going to play a role for us, and you know, I think we've forgotten they changed defensive coordinators, they change defensive line coaches.

Yep. They brought in Jerry Montgomery, who.

Has had some success coaching guys in the past at that position, and all of a sudden, it felt like the light bulb clicked.

Maybe it's just the way the defense is termed.

Maybe it's just understanding that he's not a rotation, he's a guy that's being relied on every single snap, and there's more confidence that comes with that. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but you're right. It's not been two games. It's been eight games, nine games, ten games which he's put it all together. And I think an example is like TJ.

Slayton.

TJ Slayton's been really good for the last two weeks. Yeah, he's played two terrible teams for the last two weeks. Miles Murphy's been good for the last ten weeks. DJ Turner's been good for the last ten weeks. It's not just something you see against bad teams. It's all across the board.

Now.

To me, I think it's important with Miles Murphy to not be viewed. I think they have to view him as he could be the guy on the other side of the guy. Sure, he can be the second, and I don't know who that first. I don't know that they devote the money to Joseph o'side to do that. But somebody has to be the guy to allow Miles Murphy then to be the other guy. And there's nothing wrong with being the other guy. It just I don't want to count on him as the new Trey Hendrickson.

I don't. I don't.

I don't think I'm fifteen million a year committed.

To believing that, are you? No?

Not?

Really I like him, I just I almost feel like the back portion of the season has been a missed opportunity for him to convince me and probably convince them. It's raised more questions than it's deliberate answers.

He signed a prove it deal, yeah, to come back, and all he'd done is proved that he's the same guy he was a year ago. I would wonder if the Bengals are interested in trying to bank on that same light bulb clicking for Joseph Osaida, the motivation of a one motivation of a one year deal that you

I said on Sunday, and almost sometimes I feel like I'm picking on him, But every time I watch Geno Stone, I come to the conclusion I don't know that how far back i'd have to go to dig into pro football a focused great if they ever had them for the history of the franchise. I feel pretty good believing that Geno Stone might be turning in the worst individual season performance of any player in the history of this franchise.

He's just been a disaster. He's been a disaster.

And Al Golden spoke glowingly of him yesterday, but I think if you read through that a little bit, he basically kept saying, Gino has been really good for us, getting us in the right position and getting us in the right play. That's the bare minimum of a safety.

Yep.

You know why von Bell played as much as he did last year because the other guys couldn't do that. Vaughn was terrible once the snap happened, but he was getting them in the right play. We're seeing the same thing unfold with Geno Stone, and so you know, he's on an expiring contract. He isn't played well, not the last couple of weeks. He hasn't played well for the

It almost felt yesterday like al was was throwing a life preserver to one of his guys who's taking a heavy attack under fire from the fan base. There there was if you're out, there's no harm in saying something he thinks he's doing positively. And at the same time, you're never gonna bury the guy publicly, and you know he's not gonna be here next year, so saying something positive kind of changes the tone maybe a little bit,

He's going to be back next season.

Well, I think what happened at the end of last year he did play a little bit better, He tackled a little bit better, and that, you know, made such an impression on the Bengals that they asked him to make a two million dollars pay cut, and he for

Next to him, no doubt, no doubt.

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We turned the corner second hour of two tonight to wrap up the season wrap up show at the Roundtable Show, Hanging Out it Long next in Wilder Rocks on assignment,

How are you?

I am pretty much entirely in the mode where I'm just waiting to get to Memphis on Thursday and eat Guts's fried chicken.

Yeah, nice, nice, all right, speaking of the bowl game. The news of the day for the Bearcats, Evan Pryor, the running back or average six point nine yards of carried this year in rushing for over five hundred yards, has entered the transfer portal.

Your reaction to the news of the day.

Cincinnati has to be really smart with their money that they don't have a lot of it. I think Evan Pryor was, and probably rightfully so, looking for a you know, this last year, looking for a big pay day. And I think he's probably a running back two for Cincinnati at least the way that they want to run the football. They prefer Corey Kiner Tywie Walker type in that running back one spot. It's probably that's for both parties if they go their separate ways. But that's not to diminish

When it comes to the money and being smart with the money, how much of it do you think is you know, saving up for having to invest in a quarterback and the outrageous prices that college quarterbacks are going for these days.

I mean, there's some talk in a couple of articles that have been coming out recently that you're talking like a million and a half two million dollars for guys that are backups. Wow, now they're probably good backups, you know, like the kid at Ohio State who's almost won that job the past two years. Try talking to a million and a half two million dollars to get him to get the kid from Notre Dame probably over a million dollars.

Oh my gosh.

So we thought that the market would would calm down, right, Like, okay, revenue shares here, the cap is in place, but for positions like quarterback, you can round up nil money. That's that's actual nil money that you know. These getting kids are QB one are marketable and those those markets. Yeah, and that money is not flowing down at all. So you guys save you money for a quarterback often.

So you Kegan, You guys, everybody at Bearcat Journal, you guys are all over this and do it like nobody's business keeping track of the portal?

What going into the bowl game?

How would you categorize the general shape of the roster going into the bowl game based on everything that is transpired.

Uh, not terrible, but certainly not what you want against Navy, like in this era, the last thing you want to see going into a bowl game as a service academy, especially a good service accademy like this is a good Navy team. They don't deal with opt oubts, they don't deal with kids entering the transfer portal, like the team that they had all season is going to be the

There, Joe Royer's playing.

My understanding is Cyrus Allen and Jeff Caldwell are gonna play.

Well.

You know, Brady Lichtenberg is gonna Nobody deserves a shot more than Brady Lichtenberg and he's gonna have most of his weapons. So offensively they should be fine. But the question is do we get to the end of the game and you look and Navy's had forty five minutes in time of possession and Cincinnati's had like fourteen and a half.

Are there any like is there a positive to having some of those young guys play because they are likely to come back next year?

Yeah?

Is it just one game, and it doesn't matter that much, like how is the staff viewing this game in terms of like the development of those young players.

You're gonna get to see what you've got with quite a few of them. You know, it's not a normal game situation playing Navy, but you're gonna have seen them for the fifteen Bowl practices. You're gonna get to see what they look like in the game. You're gonna see how they take to the coaching. You know that there are definitely some advantages on defense with getting a look at these young guys right as the portal opens, so you're gonna get a better idea of what you have.

Crite a little bit.

You're gonna get to look at at Daniel Jones at

All right, basketball question for you win over Lipscomb last night, Now the Big Twelve with Houston on Saturday.

They play eighteen Big Twelve games.

If I were to give you an over under on Big Twelve wins for UC, if I just off the top of my head said seven and a half, how would you feel about that number?

Well, if it was before Gigsel James came back, and they have looked, especially offensively, significantly better with Gigsel James on the floor. I would have laughed, taken under and ran to the bank with whatever you allowed me to bet. Now, now i'd say, now that's probably in the right realm. Seven to eight. I mean, I still the offense has just been so inconsistent that that I don't have a great feeling that they get into that eight nine, ten

I wonder it yet, but I want you to know you missed a golden opportunity in the last ninety seconds to drop in a six seven and people would have gone crazy.

I could have, but they wore that out at the game last night they had six seven games.

Yes classic, I have a teenage daughter. I'm over Oh.

Yes, for the kids, all right, map out the itinerary. When when do you hit the road.

It will it be all forces you and Keegan and preview all the coverage coming up from Bearkay journal dot com.

So we we. I hit the road Thursday morning, hopefully by dinner Thursday night. I'm a Gussa's Fried Chicken. That's the plan. Keegan and I will both be in Memphis, and then Keegan, because he's just a warrior, is gonna go back to the I got an Airbnb for both of us. He's gonna go back and sleep until like three four o'clock in the morning, and then he's gonna get up and drive back to Cincinnati for the Houston game.

Oh oh my gosh, cruel and unusual.

How about that?

I mean, you know I did that a lot of that stuff back in when I was his age. Anymore, I'm gonna stop in Nashville, watch the game in Nashville, and I'll catch up later.

Understood that To clarify, You're going to ride chicken place instead of a barbecue place in Memphis?

Is that right?

Often? Gusses fried chicken is the best fried chicken I've ever had. Okay, I'm just wondering, you know, I Mean, it's so good it's become a national chain like they're they're all over the place now, but one of the original locations is in downtown Memphis. You now, people when like Cincinnatians, when they leave Cincinnatian and then they come back, they go to Skyline. Yes, like before they go home, before they do anything, they go to Skyline. That is

Probably have that idea.

Oh no, that's probably a bad idea, so I didn't do that. But yes, the fried chicken, the sides, everything at Guss's is awesome. That's my go to spot in Memphis.

The barbecue is good. I'm more of a Texas.

Barbecue guy than a Memphis barbecue guy.

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There you go, Chad Brendo, Bearcat Journal, Bearcat Journal dot Com. Take a time out, come back. Something Dalton Reisner said to Dan Horde I think is worth taking a listen to and exploring. And then let's get into some roster breakdown. Now we're toggles. I broke down these silly little categories and then I just threw some names in each category. And then I didn't look at it again, and then I looked at it tonight and said, oh, I might move some of these names around, but that's what you're

Dalton Reisner was.

Talking about Sunday's game with Dan postgame interview about the game and the subject of his future came up.

He's on a one year deal.

And I thought it was an interesting public admission of how he feels and what his hopes are and what became the conversation between Dalton Reisner and Dan Horde. Take a listen to part of that exchange on Sunday in the locker room.

This is kind of your opportunity to play with him, healthy, looking good. I mean, what's that experience been like for you?

He's an ultimate competitor.

I really do love Joe the way that he goes out there and slings the football and wants to win football games, and how dialed he is.

You can see why the Bengals are special.

I mean you kind of just block your tailoff back there and then you see the ball get thrown up and he's just dropping it in buckets and hitting guys right where they need to be hit. So love blocking from the guy. I got a tremendous amount of respect for him. You can see why he's had the success that he's had here in Cincinnati, and.

I just hope I could be a part of it for longer.

I would assume there's mutual interest in having your return based on the way things are going.

That would be great. Man, Keep pulling for me. Let's get these guys to give me a call, man, I kind of expect that that's going to happen.

Congratulations on a great win today, two in a row and finished the season with three.

Next week We'll do God bless you. Thanks Matt for it.

Interesting comments after the game Dalton Reisner with Dan Horden, and I think people forget Dalton Reisner was signed the day that the final cutdown day August twenty eighth, and ten days later played thirty six snaps in the opener against the Cleveland Browns, and it was it was on the flight and it was rushed, and he was a

Yeah, And I think he's been the lynch pin into fixing the offensive line. He's been consistent in the past game. He's been consistent in the run game. And that's part of the reason why Jalen Rivers got benched is he wasn't very good, especially in the run game or especially in the past game, and Reisner has just provided stability to boast. We talked earlier about you know, guys around

And it's very rare you hear a player say that.

What he did to Dan Horde, which is like, yeah, keep helping me out. Give you guys to give me a call, Like what more could you need if you're the Bengals. I think some projectives have him at about four and a half to five million dollars a year.

I would do that. I would do that in a hartbeat.

He'll be I think I looked it up. He'll be thirty one next season. That's not old to me. You know what you've got in him. He wants to be here, and if you plug him in, maybe get him on one. Maybe it has to be a two year deal, but it would buy you some time with Jalen Rivers instead of having to force Jalen Rivers back into the mix. If you say, Jalen, just you know, cool, your jets,

Yeah, and if you go into the offseason you already know offensive line depth is something that has to be addressed. Yes, And so if you can look at Jalen Rivers as potential depth. Okay, we got a starter in Dalton Reisner. Maybe Jalen Rivers can be the guy who's the swing tackle at some point because Cody Ford has struggled at that. It means obviously a great wide receiver, but he's struggled a little bit at being the swing tackle. Offensive Line

Yeah.

No, it would be foolish. Yeah, it's as simple as that.

All right, let me lead into we'll do the first level of this, then we'll transition after the news. But I was put in together just a list of how I feel about players going into next season, and I just randomly picked categories in my top category would be the guys I feel great about, then the guys I feel really good about, then pretty good about, and then okay with, and then have my doubts about, and then I'm out on just randomly selected those categories who and

About for next season? Yes, I am all right.

When we come back, I'm gonna go to level two, the guys we feel really good about.

There's one person you have in really good about that I think should be in that top two.

Okay, that's good, And there is the longer I've looked at this this week, and again I just threw names into categories on Sunday and then forgot to go back and maybe rearrange some names. But I'm interested in your thoughts on level two as we continue. But we are perfectly.

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Is that the one you were thinking about all right.

In my really good about I had Chase Brown, Amarius Mimes, DJ Turner, Dax Hill. I might move my Keasiki down. No, I feel well, No, I'm undecided on Kasiki. What do you think about that? Well, if you if you're undecided, then you might move him down. You move him down to? Okay with wouldn't you?

You're under good?

No?

Pretty good of him? Okay, pretty good about it.

It'll feel really good about him because of age and injury. I feel pretty good about him. So I moved him down one level, Okay, and you move Chase Brown up? Yeah, I'm fine with that. For me, I would move a Marius Mims up to that feel great about And I know he's, you know, still relatively young. But think about it, Lance, how bad did the offense look on Sunday against a terrible Arizona team when a Marius.

Mims went out?

That might be an indictment, an indictment on Cody Ford, but maybe it's a reminder of how good a Marius Mims is. And we never really said his name hardly at all this season, And that's exactly what you want out of your starting right tackle. And this dude has already played more snaps in the NFL than he ever did at the University of Georgia. He's still just twenty three years old. He's a mountain of a man. He's not gonna turn twenty four until midway through next season.

All right, that's now, that's a worthy case being made. How about level three? Pretty good about?

Guys?

Feel pretty good about? I put Miles Murphy there is that? Okay, Yeah, that's good. I put Jordan Battle there. Sure feel pretty and I think you made a great point earlier. I feel even better with him if you got him a really good safety to be back there with him. Dylan Fairchild pretty good about.

Maybe might even might even move him.

Up to really good about. No, I'll stay pretty good. Okay, I feel pretty good. And then it probably a surprise to you, Ryan Rico, Yeah, this I wanted to do maybe the whole two hours about this. You called me before the show a flip flopper because I had changed my opinion on something, and now all of a sudden, you want to speak, you know, positive things about Ryan Reco.

Just settle down here for a second. And that's not flip flopping.

I always say I reserve the right to adjust an opinion based on the evidence presented. And the evidence presented the last couple of weeks is Ryan Rico is much more than a just boot the heck out of it and see where it lands. He was inside the twenty all four times two weeks ago. Two those inside the ten, and I think he had a kick inside the twenty or maybe the ten. That's the only issue I ever had with I get he's got.

A really powerful leg.

Leads the league, I think that, but he also led the league in touchbacks, which kind of defeats the purpose a lot. So because he's closed the gap of those deficiencies, I'm willing to put him on.

I feel pretty good about, okay.

I'm just I'm glad that you're you have an open mind. Some people choose to that's right, that's right, And I was excited to see Ryan Rico rise through the ranks up the pretty good about.

He'll be excited to know too, guys. I feel okay with okay. So again we've got great.

About, really good about, pretty good about, and now I feel okay about And I might underrate this dj Ivy.

I might move him.

Up a little bit. I might move him with pretty good about. I mean, he seems to have found a role and the way they're using him, and uh yeah, I don't know if you saw Charlie Goldsmith's posts earlier this week about dj Ivy, but basically, he's had something like one hundred and seventy eight total snaps in his career and allowed two first down catches and they were both garbage time against the Miami Dolphins a couple of

You know what I'm doing.

I'm moving dj Ivy up to feel great about oh after you said that.

He goes all way up to the time, all the way up to the time. All right, I'm moving stuff around here as well. I've got to true sample. I'm okay with yeah, just a guy.

I've got Tanner Hudson, okay with I've got Josh Newton. I'm okay with Josh Newton, Jaylen Davis. I want to love even more, but I'm not prepared to move on with the pretty good about.

I'm okay with Jalen and that's okay to be okay. I would move Jalen up to pretty good about okay. He's one of the best tacklers on this defense. He's shown the ability to play the slot in that nickel role, especially with Dax Hill on the outside. Yep, I don't know what took so long for Jayleen Davis from the practice squad. I remember doing segments about him during the preseason, talking about how this guy needs to be on the field,

Room as well.

I have set Johnson on that list, had a sack with help from a nice pressure from Isaiah Foski on Sunday. And then I've got you know, Will Wagner. Most people don't even know who Will Wagner is. He's their snapper. I've got Cody Ford okay with, maybe have my doubts. Well, no, he gets okay with because he had the twenty one.

Jewels.

So there, you know what is As I'm doing all this, you know who this list would drive have driven absolutely bonkers. He would have lost his mind. I'd pay to be able to go back in time and have this conversation with Bob Trumpy when I created my own list, and he would look at me and say.

You you've clearly never played the game before. He'd loved that card, and then he'd laugh and then he'd say, this may be the most ridiculous list I have ever seen put together. I think in this particular category and the okay with, there are three guys that over the last month have carved themselves out rolls for the twenty

I like that dude. Guys.

I have my doubts about Shamar Stewart certainly is that fair? I have Barrett Carter, I have my doubts about him.

Yep.

I might be willing to move Dimitris Knight Junior up to okay with, but I hesitate. I still have doubts about him. I want to like him, but he's older and he's come on late. I'm gonna leave him in. I have my doubts about Yeah.

I'm right there with you, I don't feel good about either one of these linebackers. No matter what happens this week or what's happened in the last three weeks.

They're gonna have to bring in it. And it can't be a draftic. They're gonna have to spend money on a veteran live back.

I agree at least because even we had the conversation earlier about TJ. Slayton, he's looked good the last two weeks. These guys haven't like they really have. Demetrius Knight okay against Ravens a few weeks ago, but Barrett Carter's still getting shook out of his shoes, still in the wrong position, not reading his keys, still falling behind guys. He just doesn't seem like he's ready and this has all been too much for him. But you're right that that position

I've got Yoshi in this list, have my doubts about it.

I want to like it, and he drives me crazy because he'll have a catch the in I say okay, and then we'll have a drop and I'll say come on, and it just it seems like that just rotates from game to gabe, and that's too inconsistent for a guy in his third season. With Jamar and t on the outside and the coverages that they demand, You've got to be able to win some one on ones if you're

Number ten, number eleven, maybe number eight.

If the Bengals lose, maybe you should take Carnell Tait and put him in at that number three wide receiver. If not, I think that's a position that you address in free agency or in the draft.

The Bengals are really good.

At drafting receivers and give some challenges to Andre Jose Vash. And I do wonder if Mitchell Tinsley comes back and maybe has a full offseason, if that's more of a camp battle next year.

All right, in the interest of time, I'll move quickly. The rest of my have my doubts about I've got Orlando Brown Junior, Ted Carris and Charlie Jones fair.

Yeah, three for three on that one, all right?

And then I'm out on and I hesitate now because TJ had a good game and don't. I'm out on TJ. They just need more in the interior and TJ Slaton's not been enough, so I'm out on him. I'm out on Oron Burks.

Thought it was interesting Aaron Burks and Will played five defensive snaps on Sunday and who am I blanking on?

Somebody else got sixteen?

A younger guy also on Specialty, Oh Giles, Joe J. Giles Harris played sixteen defensive snaps, which is a career high. I found that interesting. I'm out on McKinley Jackson, I'm out on Chris Jenkins, and I'm out on Jake Browning.

I agree with all of those, all right. What an exercise we put together?

Now?

More rapid fire because they're free agents. Joseph O'SAI. We don't believe fifteen million a year for him? Is that what we concluded?

Yeah?

I don't think so, don't rise a yes, yes, Kam Taylor Britt absolutely not. Did I see a projection of Kam Taylor Britt somewhere in the neighborhood of fifteen million a year.

I think you did.

Whoever pays Cam Taylor Britt fifteen million dollars a year, God bless you.

We had somebody today say move him to safety your thoughts.

I would move him too safety for any other team in the NFL, but I would move him off the roster here.

Uh no offense, eh kay, I depend on the money. Okay, I'd be okay with that. Trey Henderson. No, Joe Flacco I would love to have. I'll be curious to see how he view what kind of opportunities he has, because I'd love to have him.

Here is Joe's back up.

I wonder, in a day and age where young quarterbacks aren't figuring things out, if somebody would give him a starting job.

The Philip Rivers effect, that Joe Flacco effect. Even what we've seen from Kirk Cousins with the Falcons over the last few games, there's gonna be a market for those older quarterbacks. I would love to have Flacco back. It feels like a bit of a long shot.

Cam sample. Uh, I'm good.

Uh we answered the uh the stone question? You know he's out cam Grandy Tinsley.

I'm intrigued by Mitchell Tinsley.

Okay, uh, Tyson Anderson special teamer. Clearly he's not. They don't believe he's an answer in.

The second Yeah, safety Robull caliber special teamer, but never once got a chance on defense.

I think that says a lot.

Lucas Patrick back his depth on the offensive line. Yes, I would like see that Bolson I've brought about.

I completely forgot about Cordell Volson and Marcus Wilson depth.

Surefied. If the money's right, I don't have any problem.

I think this offseason we need to have more conversations about depths.

A great question about to have great depth? No question?

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Holy cow, who are you rooting for?

I kind of default to rooting to rooting for anybody that plays the Steelers. I just don't want the Steelers to win the division, so I guess I'm rooting for Baltimore.

I think it would be funny if Tyler Huntley played really well and they win, and then Lamar comes back to the playoffs and they lose.

They lose.

I think we've taken care of that set, so let's come back and wrap it up with the little college football to put the final finishing touches on all this.

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Yeah, could you see the Fran and Phyllis show nine at midnight seven hundred WL? I really can wow? That would be big. All right, I'm gonna run out of time here. Let's do our first look at Sunday's opponent. Game Day preview, brought to you by Game Day Men's Health Get back in the game today. It's the Cleveland Browns. The only question I will pose from all of that is how much would you, if at all, play Joe Burrow?

Do you remember Joe Burrow's first ever preseason game against the Miami Dolphins. He handed the ball off twice and threw a smoke screen to Jamar Chase and he was done. They should do the exact same thing on Sunday if he if he is so adamant about playing, I don't want him to play more than a series. I want him to hand the ball on it as a preseason treated as a preseason game. It felt like a preseason game against Arizona yesterday or someday. That's how you got

Yeah, I would be inclined to at the start of the week, which was all I guess. Yesterday, I was thinking, maybe the first half, turn it over to Joe Flacco to face his former team. In the second half, I might be understanding of a quarter with Joe or a couple of.

Drives, and then that's it. I just I've seen it and it's not I've.

Argued all along, players play, and I wanted Joe to return to play.

I agree.

I think as well as he is played in this stretch, it's almost like box checked.

I'm good. I don't need to see anymore.

So if if you give me maybe a drive and hand it off, I think I'd lean your way and be good with it.

I had the same thought earlier today. It's like, you've proven what you've needed to prove. You came back, you found a way to play, you gave it your all, you rebounded from the awful game against the Ravens. Everybody knows who you are and what this is supposed to look like. You just can't risk with all the stuff that has to happen this offseason, you can't risk doing that again with an injured Joe Burrow. And I agree

And yeah, I've seen enough. I'm done. I'm good.

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At any point this season. I got the buck Eyes, but I do think Miami covers. I think it's a seven to ten point game.

All right. You know what I would do?

My final thought on all the college football I was thinking about this because January twenty third is the deadline to make their recommendation for what.

They're gonna do next. I would do.

I would expand to sixteen teams. I get rid of the buys, I get rid of conference championship games. I do home field for the first round and the second round, and that would squeeze. I would squeeze the schedule and say nobody's going twenty six days be between all days, because this thing is just dragged on, just dragged on.

I don't love all that, but I can I can get with it as long as we get rid of automatic qualifiers as well.

Yes, I mean as well.

All right, we're I got Georgia, I got Alabama, I got Texas Tech as well.

Wait a minute, you're taking Alabama to be Joe Bonn Hills, Hoosier. Give me the time you're out of here. I was enjoying this until now. This was fun.

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