12-11-25 Wes Miller Coach

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Thank you, sir. A very pleasant, good evening, everybody. Greetings from the original Montgomery In home of the world's greatest ribs. Welcome to the West Miller Radio Show. I'm Dan Horde with former Bearcats stand out Terry Nelson, my new favorite podcaster and the star of the show, the head coach of your UC Bearcats. That's here at four Wes Miller. We are off to Atlanta tomorrow for a big game coming up on Saturday against the Georgia Bulldogs. They are

Yeah, this will be a great opportunity, great game. They I don't know what. I haven't checked the polls, and nor do I care a whole lot about them this time of year.

But when you look.

At the the at the Ken Pomp stuff, I mean, they're one of the best teams in the country to start the year, and they're doing some some really interesting things.

In the open court.

They're they're pressing, and they're playing extremely fast and speeding you up defensively. That they've had a really nice start. It's it's a it's a big time game, big time opportunity.

Average of ninety nine points a game, which is incredible. What is it about Georgia. I mean, it's been the last three or four years that we played Georgia or in Georgia. Obviously there's some players there, but what about the what's the connection.

I don't think that there's really it just kind of by chance, right, we had the Georgia Tech Series, now Georgia, and then I think Georgia will be back up this way to play US neutral somewhere next year.

But I don't. I actually that's Clemson. I think that it comes back here next year. I don't. I don't.

I think the Georgia win's a one off. But no, I think it's more by chance. It wasn't There's there's no nothing behind the scenes here. Intentionally just trying to find quality games, and Georgia was look and we were looking and it made sense to do it neutral.

Lauren said, you planned that game because she came over here, so she said.

She was going to go back if because she moved up from at Lea exactly.

Yeah, Yeah, she is hiding behind a post now trying to apployd eye contact with you team, Allen. I can't blame her. Yeah, there's a balancing act when you put together your schedule. You know you're going to have so many killer games in the Big Twelve, you want some in the non conference you don't want too many. Did you feel like you had a pretty good balance this year.

Yeah, I think there's you know, we've said this publicly quite a bit, guys. I think the first thing you're trying to do is build a tournament resume with your non conference schedule. Are there opportunities to do that? The second thing you're trying to prepare for your league because that's ultimately what's going to define your year in the

Is it fair for basketball?

Because Notre Dame had an early loss to Miami and they're penalized for that ten in a row. But in basketball it seems like it goes up and down based on per game, Like you have a your game versus Dayton and Xavier and Georgia and Clemson, and they can really boost your net ranking or push them down and bury you.

Yeah.

I think, And I haven't followed been a little preoccupied and hadn't quite followed the football stuff. But I think basketball and football are different because there's so many more opportunities, you know, like and you get into the league, like we played in the Big Twelve every night. It's the neatest part about the league is every night's an opportunity to get a big time win. Correct, And so that is different than football, where maybe one loss can keep

Fortunately.

All right, let's go back and do a bit of an autopsy on the Xavier game. You haven't played a ton of zone defense since you've been at Cincinnati. A zone defense helped you get back into that game and helped you take a lead with two and a half minutes to go. Did you find something do you think defensively in that game?

Well, you know, we were It was interesting I thought going into the game defending the three point line was a huge key. They were making eleven a game, top five in the country, and made threes a game. You know, they had inserted those you know, inserted a kid into the starting lineup in the front court. So they were putting five guys in their starting lineup that are all very capable from three and defending two shooters in the

You said that you didn't think that Carol could score over Baba and Mustafa one on one.

What did you see consistently assistently? Because it certainly it were at a level of basketball where everybody can make a one on one tough shot. That's sometimes you just clap your hands and you run back the other way and play the next possession, right, I mean, that's going to happen at this level, But you know to to to to get scored on over the top as much as we did. That surprised me. But you allow somebody to get in a rhythm by giving them easy ones.

And I thought he did a little bit of both, right.

He got easy ones, he got to the foul line, and then he was able to make some really tough ones over the top to close the game.

Hindsight, it's always twenty twenty. What, if anything, would you do differently against him?

Well, I think we would have spent more time on, you know, how to defend that action where they just kind of like set a pick and roll for him on the side and he drives it and flips his hips. You know, late in the game when we somebody asked me, like, why didn't you double more? Well, we were in the zone, you know, like one of the things we did. We went to the zone. We were trying to get to the double. We talked about it, and we got to it on one possession late in the game. There were

I noticed in practice there seems to be what I used to call with Bob Huggins the Jack be Nimble experience, where you light a fire into somebody and you make them try to try to get them to play with a little bit more urgency in practice. I've been seeing a little bit more of that lately. Is that because you're trying to turn up for the conference? Are you just trying to get them prepared one game at a time for that?

I just think I was really excited to have a week of practice. You know it's been a while.

Yeah that I'm not guys, I ain't making excuses or complaining.

I just as a coach, I live for practice.

I live live for the opportunity to go in there and work and get better and you know, teach and like you said, you know, try to make the team a better team. And we had a week to do that. And so I think there was an opportunity to coach in a lot of different ways, and maybe one of them is what you're talking about. That was very intentional to try to create some urgency in some certain areas that we got to improve.

Mustapha Chim has not been able to take advantage of his size and athletic ability lately as much as he did earlier. This year. What are you working on with him?

Well, we need him to be a force. We need to be a presence. We need him to be a great rebounder on both ends. We need him to be a shot blocker and a rim protector defensively. You know, I thought in the Xavier game we did a nice job of getting the ball within four or five feet, like I thought, we were able to establish the post box with him. We didn't convert enough there. We're gonna keep trying to get him the ball. We need him to convert down there and kind of find his rhythm offensively.

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He has been able to put days together this week, which is to me what led to a really great start for him of the season. He was one of our him and Dada Thomas and in terms of practice have been our most consistent guys day in, day out, and no mistake that those guys have had the start they've had, but him missing practice affected him. It was very obvious to our eyes as coaches again getting back in the rhythm of practice this week, I suspect that don't really help him.

I've noticed that during this time you were early on, when you start getting the injuries to your team, you start giving them more breaks in between, and you start taking a little bit softer approch, not a softer approach, but not trying to push him as hard in certain areas because you want to just get to the game. But now that they're getting back healthy, I see you doing more with pressing and defenses and just trying out different things. Is that intentional?

I just hate the dynamic you talked about. You can call it soft, it's what it is.

I mean, you know, you got guys hurt, you can't practice, and it's not they're not being soft.

But hell, that's what I'm not going to the place I just told you. I live for practice.

Yeah, but if guys are hurt and can't practice, what are you supposed to do? And you know, we were in a segment there where we were doing walkthroughs, not practices because we didn't have enough to be able.

To practice there for a little bit. And no, that's no fun. That's no fun. I don't love that.

You can call it any bad word you want, I won't disagree with it. But the no I think you have to this is basketball is like anything. There's no secrets. Like there's no secrets. It takes what it takes. The work is the work. The preparation is the preparation. And you know, again, I'm Fit's felt good this week to be able to get back in the gym and do that.

You have an approach of trying to build your players up. You want them to feel confident when they take the court, and part of that is giving them freedom to take shots that you think they can make and they think they can make. But I wonder sometimes if there's a fine line when a guy who maybe doesn't have a great percentage and a key situation in the game takes one and you have to say, Okay, there are times to take that shot and other times not too.

It's coaching, right, You get the film, you you get on the practice court, and you start really defining roles. Right. We've been doing that for the last two or three weeks. It doesn't mean that you still won't have a moment in a game where somebody will be eighteen to twenty two years old and do something they're not supposed to do. But I do think shot selection is going to be really important to our ability to improve our offense as a team.

I spoke about this on the Legends Unpluged podcast. You guys, make sure you go ahead and do that.

It's excellent. Yes, so big thumbs up from your broadcast partner Dan Horde.

Appreciate it.

Reve we were seven to zero in the nineteen ninety two season. Ninety one ninety two, we go to Michigan State, we had a nineteen point league. We end up losing at the Buzzer. And back then was now it was during the time. Right now, there's no twenty hour rule, so you can practice as long as you want. So the Hugs would make us do two a days. And then so after running us for a while, he put us all on the baseline and said this is your role,

You can't pass, you can't shoot, you can't.

He just went through all this stuff that I can't do, and I didn't hear any of that. All I heard was if I want to play, play, post defense, play, you know, box out, do whatever. But it gave me the ability to say, this is what he sees in me, and if I do this, I can make a difference for the team. Do you have those conversations or they just kind of know based on the roles that you are planning out with offensive defensive strategy.

Yeah, you have those conversations, maybe in a different way than you could do in the nineties.

I mean you also got to have those conversations with the agent.

Yes.

And then there's a transfer port, you know, so it's not you know, yes, if you were pissed about it, you could you walk out of the door and transfer it back in ninety one ninety that's right, Corey.

No, you do, Listen, you do.

And there's certain fundamentals of coaching that are the exact same as they were fifty years ago, and that's what's fun. And then there's there's certain dynamics that are much different. I think I think, yes, you're trying to define what guy's strengths are getting them to play to their strengths, getting them to sacrifice maybe something they want to do for something that would be better for our team for

You express some optimism after the Xavier game, and I feel like some people took it the wrong way, like you weren't upset with the loss, which obviously nothing could be further from the truth. Probably put your fist through a back blackboard or something like that. But what did you see in that game that was caused for optimism and positivity?

Yeah, you know, there's no way I didn't know that. I'm deleted social media a while back. I only have the apps on my phone, so to how smart. It's a much better way to live. I'll tell you what it makes. It makes life, not just for anything with basketball, just in general.

I mean now, when I open my phone, I read my news apps, so I know what's going on in the world. But the.

No I listen nobody.

I don't know if I could even describe the pain that you feel after a loss.

You know, it's a it's a deep pain. Uh.

You know, you put your whole life and you nest into something and when you lose, I don't I don't even have the words to describe the.

Pain that you feel.

But that said, you know, the job of a coach of a player is to learn to get back to work and to figure out how to grow and to become a great team. And so you know to me that that's what you do with the loss. You learn, you learn, you're gonna feel that pain. Like it doesn't. I'm still upset about the game somewhere down here, like I don't like to talk about it, but that's my job is coming here and talk with you guys and answer questions. But the truth is you got to learn

That's the job.

And there were some moments in that game, you know that were positive. What I would say is had we hit a shot to go up one under two minutes, had we we have won that last two minutes, you guys be asking me all these fun questions tonight about.

How good is it? You know that, well, you know, you got to put things in perspective sometimes too.

So we did some good things to come back from a thirteen point deficit, to take a lead on the road and a rivalry game. You know, that's something we can build on. And there's a lot that we've already talked about that we can learn from.

The great pat Riley said there's winning and there's misery. Sure, and that's exactly what you feel when you put your whole life into the preparation in doing all that and then you lose. Tell you it's tough for you guys that don't if you played sports on any level.

Yeah, but you know, I say this, Terry, and I think you'll appreciate this, and anybody's listening, I think I'll appreciate this.

Is you feel like as low as you could ever feel.

But sometimes you take a step back and you think about I'm coaching basketball, we're playing basketball, and think about how great our lives are, how fortunate we.

Are, who the hell wants to hear me complain? No serious that people.

Out there working nine to five and struggling to put pop. Who wants to hear me complain? My job, into complain is to figure ou how to get our damn team better. And so when I stand in front of the media, I sit here in a radio interview, Hell, what do I have to complain about? My job is to go get us better and that's where my focus is.

So you guys get right to it.

Like when the game's over, you guys don't know, he doesn't go home and have a big stake and hang out like his assistant coaches are breaking down to film and you guys are going over what just took place, So you don't really get a mental break. So you're still in game mode. You try to, you know, Dan and myself or Dan and Steve, try to take some steam off in the radio interview before you get to the media room and you know, project to the world.

But then you have to go right back and look at what you just saw. What is that like?

For those that don't know.

It's the only thing that I can do after a game, because if not, your brain is so eat win winter lost. Your brain's wired and all you can think about is the game and everything that happens. So the only thing that you're not going to be able to go to sleep. The only thing that makes any sense is to get to work. And for me, in any of the difficult things I've ever experienced in basketball, the only thing that

Did you start that or did you get that from one of your previous as coaches.

That's what my college coach did, And you know, when I was playing, you know, a couple of times I would go ask to watch them grade the tape because they call out the grades and I wanted to see how that went. And then when I was getting into coaching, I would sit and help them grade and do that as a young person that wanted to coach. And then even you know, I was so fortunate that my mentor

When you've added new members to your coaching staff and you explain that this is part of the process, did they go away?

What?

Yeah, we're not going out to dinner right.

Yeah.

It's in the in the circles of all the guys that I've worked with that and most of us are all still very close guys that we've worked with over the last fifteen years. That's like the one joke they all have, like I don't miss the grading, or you know, a new guy gets hired and they see somebody that used to work with us on the road, how you get ready for the grading.

You know, like they assistants don't like it.

But I will say I've had a number of assistant coaches that have appreciated it because you.

Get the team, you get the staff on the same page.

You learn, you really teach young coaches how to watch film.

It's something I really.

Do value you, mikeel on the staff, you would challenge you on the sideline, and it was a crazy dynamic. You guys are going back and forth on the sideline. Is there anybody that challenged you, not in a physical way, but saying, look, I think we need to do this when you have a strong opinion.

Otherwise I'm main man, Mike, I mis amen, Mike. He's doing great. He's this assistant at New Mexico. They're off to a great start. So shout out to Mike Roberts. But oh yeah, we would get into some altercations.

Dan and I would be bumpling to like this. It's funny, man.

I walked into Starbucks one morning and we were coaching down at the mid major school in North Carolina together, and we used to go to the same Starbucks every morning on the way to work.

And I walked in.

And one of the fans that comes to the game stop me, and he goes, are you okay with your assistant coach?

What are you talking about?

And I said, grasp you guys from about twenty last night, you okay with your assistants?

I said, what are you talking about?

He said, you guys got into it on the side, and I was like, that's just how we communicate.

Man like.

But uh no, that was great and we worked together for ten years and we had a really good dynamic for sure.

All right, Well, take a time out of questions from the audience when we continue. This is the West Miller Radio Show or Live at the Original Montgomery In Home of the World's Greatest Ribs on seven hundred w allw Welcome back to the West Miller Radio Show, Live from the original Montgomery In Home of the world's Greatest Ribs. I think we're on next Tuesday next week. If I'm not mistaken because of the schedule next week, it'll be well double check before the end of the show tonight.

This kind of dovetails with Dan's comment just a little bit this may seem it's from observation and might be somewhat tough for you. We like hearing that there's good practice and that it sounds really, you know, really encouraging, but it hasn't appeared to translate many times in performance on the floor, and that seems to be a bit of a disconnect. The fan base, for better or for worse, would like to see the intensity of the coaching to

A downside to that to be demanding, to be.

Demanding and expecting more of the players than what they're doing delivering at that point. Because we know we have good players, that's not even a question, but it seems that there needs to be more demanded of them and to be a little tougher on them because and I know it's a mishmash, we only had three returners, so

Yeah, I think the standard has to be high. I think that's what's being demanded of them. So yeah, that's from my perspective. Yes, that you're right in what you're saying, and the application of that is happening.

Thank you, sure, Thanks Phyllis. Before we get to Brian, the show is on Tuesday on December thirtieth, so not next week, but the week after Christmas. We'll have a Tuesday show, not a Thursday show.

Bryan, you're up, coach. I don't know a thing about Georgia. What do they do?

Press press, speed the game up. They lead the nation and shot blocking. So as they speed the game up, they steal the ball, they turn the they turn you over to high rate their top ten in the country there. When you shoot shots quickly around the rim, they turn those into turnovers by blocking shots and altering shots.

And then they're.

Playing about as fast as you can play, converting defense to offense with a ton of guards that are downhill oriented, shoot a lot of threes, touch the paint a lot.

They have an athletic front court.

So again, playing eleven guys, they're playing eleven deep, playing extremely fast on offense and defense.

And it's really playing eleven deep too. They're all averaging double digit minutes. It's not like the eleventh guy gets in there for four correct, Yeah, all right, next question.

Uh two parter here?

Uh do we have an update on Gisel James for one and two? Does a player like that fit with this lineup? With the men of ball dominant cards that we have.

From a basketball perspective. I don't have any updates.

But he's doing great, really proud of I'm really happy for him. But I don't have any basketball updates and uh so then you know, I guess it's not appropriate to answer the second part of the question.

All right, thank you very much.

Yeah, coach, My question is more on the offensive side.

I think you do.

You've done over the years pretty good job on the defensive side. Offensive side. With this year's team, you have a better inside presence than you've had in a while. What are your thoughts on the balance between you know, the inside game, When do you really emphasize that during the game versus the analytics of that you're seeing out there of you know, everybody wants to shoot the threes

Can shoot the three.

Three shooting has been a struggle for this team. How do you take advantage of what you have now as an inside game and how early do you deploy that.

It's a great question. The you know, the first thing with the three point shooting is we have a roster full of guys that haven't not just projected that they could go shoot threes. Well, they've already shot threes well in their careers, right, So at some point, and I believe it will happen, we're going to shoot the ball well from three. We made eleven in our last game, so that's that's a step in the right direction. But

We're trying to do that.

We're trying to do that through Mustapha Chim, We're trying to do that through Baba Miller. We're trying to do it to start games and start halfs. If you look at the start of most games, we start a possession by throwing it into the box you know, the first possession against a the night we throw it in, they double Baba, Boba the ball, kick it out, hit a three day, it hits it three to start the I mean we're trying to do it. I thought we actually

That was great.

We actually got to the basket with angled shots. We didn't take a bunch of contested midi twos that are the lowest percented shots in our game. We get to the basket, we miss miss four layups. I'm not talking about layups that the coach is going, heah. You could may say it's a layup, but it was contested. We missed four point blank layups. Those are one hundred percent

Those should be about ninety percent converted.

So and then we miss a eleven free throw So offensively, in the last game, the shot disparity, the rim pressure, that getting to the free throw line, the getting the ball.

To the post box, we executed that, but.

We leave eleven on the free throw line, right, we missed six layups or opportunities that it the worst case, you're five for six, Well, that's going to be a big disparity in the game. Now, we haven't executed offense to that degree in every game to start the year. We need to execute offense that consistently, and then we need to convert more consistently. But establishing the box, you're

All right, next question, Okay, following up on the last question, So, Baba Miller, it's specifically so he was over four and then shootout from three, but it looked like he had the advantage inside. He's either gonna get double teamed or he's gonna score inside. So when when do you coach up and say yet, it's not your night, don't don't keep shooting the three. And there's a kind of a two part question. I think he can shoot the three,

Yeah, Bob's over four from three in the Savior game. It's what you're referring to.

He's been such a force in all aspects of the game for us to start the year. You know, certainly I trust Baba. Boba's been our most consistent player to start the year before the injurygue in the Louisville game, Baba already showed that he could shoot the three a year ago at Florida Atlantic, So you're not talking about somebody that hasn't made threes. Number two, We stat every

His ability to.

Stretch the floor will be very important for this team over the course of the year. Now, do we want him to maybe take two less in the last game where he could have maybe driven the ball and put pressure.

Yes, and that's why we watched.

The film and we point that out to him and point that out to the team that this isn't about not shooting the ball, because I will tell you, guys, in coaching, missing shots is really difficult. Having guys that are afraid to shoot or don't believe they have the confidence to shoot is way worse.

Okay, So it's not always as simple.

We want guys to play confidently, as Dan mentioned earlier with the question, but we got to continue to get better with shots election.

I think we've improved there over the last couple of weeks.

Results in the win lost column may not feel good, but we do believe in that area that we're evaluating, we have improved and we'll continue to improve.

Brian Coach, I know that Chom you're asking him to do some stuff that he has not been asked to do in the past. As far as his inside game, How is he developing there? I mean, we can see what's happening in the game, but just what are you seeing in practice and the way he's approaching it and how he is progressing with what you're asking him to do that he's not used to.

Yeah, I think guys. You to put this in perspective, Shawna Bayev and Mustafa Chalmer unbelievably gifted young players, like they're special and they're gonna have these special basketball careers long after this year. They're very young players, and they're being asked to do things they've never been asked to do with an intensity and a demand that they've never had, u with a standard they've never been asked to do it that that can be difficult. It's very healthy for them.

Okay, Like now, that.

Puts less pressure on Mustafa when there's a guy at his position that.

Was on a championship team in.

A great league last year on a great team and was almost a Player of the Year in the league. That's a fifth year senior that's twenty three years old.

Now that it's like the pressure on him to perform is a little different. Right.

The good moments feel great, the negative moments there's somebody else, So it's almost like having an understudy there to start the year, somebody to work beside. Now the pressure's on Mustafa to performed. This is great for his development. It might not always be fun, you know, to watch the process. It's the same thing for Sean Jalen. Celestine is a fifth year senior, played at Calf, played at Baylor, played on a tournament team, and basically hasn't hasn't performed in practice.

Have terrific basketball.

Chris most likely in the NBA at some point. We're just seeing some of that young stuff and they don't have that older player beside him at their position. They were supposed to have. That's okay, this is life. Do it throws it at you and you just work through it. And they're both working through it, and I think they're both going to be great.

All Right, we need to take a time out. This is the West Miller Radio Show or Live at the Original Montgomery In Home of the World's Greatest Ribs. On seven hundred WLW. We are back at the Original Montgomery In Home of the World's Greatest Ribs and the West Miller Radio Show. We're getting ready for a big road game coming up on Saturday at two o'clock, Cincinnati will be in Atlanta to take on the eight and one Georgia Bulldogs. We've got about ten minutes left with coach.

So I'm just curious with the new world of college basketball in college sports, but the transfer portal, and I all that, when does the process for next year begin for you?

Are you doing that now? That began a long time ago? Okay, Okay, yeah, thats uh.

I think you know and and and I'm again I don't I don't ever try to be the person complaining what what good's that gonna do?

That this new landscape's crazy. I mean, the.

Transfer portal process started before we ever played a game. I mean, you know, every every player now has an agent. That agent has a roster. Every coach in the country knows every agent's roster. Every coach in the country gets text messages weekly about how their players are performing in other colleges to monitor them to follow.

I mean, this is going on.

You know, it's I'm not saying anything controversial, it's the truth. So that's that's stuff's going on. And we're monitoring all these players around college basketball that will be in the transfer portal. I think at this point you just assume every single player will be and uh and and staying in touch with the people that are calling about them. But you know, you're not breaking any rules, You're not

Thanks for us, appreciate it. Sure now they're probably of questioning.

So the changes in the nil that are coming, I think soon, do they change your approach at all? Is there any changes to what you do based on the changes that have coming?

Yeah, I think for me, hiring Corey Evans was a game changing decision because we were able to hire somebody that spends three hundred and sixty five days a year thinking.

About nil transfer portal and everything that goes into it.

And so, you know, and I think most schools are now doing something along those lines because we're living in this moment with our team trying to prepare for the next game, you know, really trying to have a special year. But having somebody that is not a part of that process, that only thinks about the roster build that's coming, you know, when the season ends. I think that was a big

That's about all the two things that I think have been consistent. Bob, So I'm talking about Mustapha. You mentioned Jalen Haynes.

How's Jalen's recovery coming along, and will we see him on the court this year.

I'm hopeful.

His recovery's been miraculous to this point. Honestly, I think it's the quickest recovery I've ever seen from an injury like that. Our trainer, Bob man Jean, who's been doing it for forty plus years, said the same thing. He's shooting, He's going through skill workouts. He participating in those aspects of practice at times, but he's not practicing yet, not even in non contact situations. But he is doing some shooting workouts in some i'd say sixty seventy percent skill stuff.

Have you thought of his comeback in terms of, Okay, if he can get back in early January and have most of the Big twelve schedules still ahead, then it's well worth it. If it's closer to February, then it's better off trying to see if he can get a red shirt season. Do you think of it kind of in those terms?

Well, I think I think you always have to think about what's best for the human being coming off of injury. And you know, selfishly, I wanted if we can play two games.

I want him to play. He's that good, you know, he's that impactful.

He was probably our best player in our preseason stuff, you know, and that type of thing.

So yeah, I want him to play.

But I do think there's an aspect of what's the right thing to do for the individual, and you'll always.

Answer that question first.

I'll tell you this though, I do think he deserves another year, whether he plays or not. I think even if he plays, he does when you look at he had to sit out a year at George Mason when the old transfer rules existed that told you had to sit out, and then halfway through the year they changed them and said, oh, by the way, you can play

He deserves another year no matter what.

So I hope he gets to play this year and then I'd like him to come back and play again next year.

And I think he's got a hell of a case there. I know the sound of that.

Yeah, I know that in house lawyer that can take it up if you got you want somebody to help with the process. But anyway, coach, in the in the non in the on the off season, you did a lot of team building exercises. You go different places. You guys are doing a lot of stuff for the to build camaraderie and sort of let the steam out because you were going really hard in the summertime. What are you doing personally to take some steam off? I know

No? Well, hell, who's playing golf in Cincinnati in the winter simulators?

That's why I said no. I know, I don't. I don't need any time.

I need to spend my time getting better, Uh, working with our team and preparing for the next game.

And I find health within that. Terry.

I get on the peloton, not as much as I should. I probably should do that a little more. And I got a great a great woman at home, and I'm just cook blessed, blessed to have some some some time twenty thirty minutes when I come home at night and take a break and eat, and we get to spend time together.

That's more than I need.

I never heard did t nell sneak his way into the Thanksgiving celebration?

Did that happen? He did not. He was invited.

He invited himself. We heard it, But then you were legitimately invited.

You didn't make it, Huh, I did not make it.

That's unfortunate.

I'll be there Christmas now that I got the invite.

A standing it's to show up at every holiday.

I'm here.

We had a question from one of our Bearcad fans tonight about already planning for next seat. And I'm not sure if we've discussed it or not on a radio show, but dude, you you did sign a high school player in the early recruiting period. Cayden Allen, six' five guy with guard. Skills tell us a little bit about.

Him he's a terrific. Player he's.

Playing he's playing his senior year at a School Long Island, lutheran goes by Lew high In New York, city and they play on the in The Nike league that's now This National High School, league high high level. Stuff HE'S i think they have him ranked as a top fifty.

Player he actually was.

At one point ranked as a top, twenty top ten maybe player in his class as a young, player because he was playing With Cooper flag and a bunch of other very well known players on a Mont org team that won the national championship and went, undefeated and he was the only underclassman that played a significant role in that. TEAM i find it, fast and we've recruited him for three.

Years he's.

SKILLED i think he could play all three positions in the. Backcourt and this is WHAT i find. AWESOME i don't care what the heck they rank. Him he'll be one of the top twenty players in his. Class and he's he's should be a junior in high. School AND i don't think people know. THAT i don't think the people ranking him know. THAT i don't think other people that recruiting him knew, that but we found. OUT i think he'll show.

Up he's.

SEVENTEEN i mean like he won't turn. Eighteen he's. Young he's very very young for a high school, senior and, again should be in the next. Class if he was in the next, class he'd probably ranked in the top, ten and that's the class he should be. In so we're really excited about. Him BUT i am so impressed with him his, intelligence his, focus and not just his, talent which is tremendous as. Well he's going to be a great.

Player the president for, that the president for that Was Troy. Colepaine he was on campus and didn't turn eighteen Until. NOVEMBER i believe and he was getting major minutes under.

MCCRONA i remember being at AN aau event In, pittsburgh of all, places in the spring of his junior. Year he was playing for a team loaded team out Of, virginia AND i remember. WATCHING i was looking at some other guys AND i, said who in the heck is? That it Was Troy copaine and then he, then you, KNOW i think he was already. COMMITTED i want to, say he's going To. Cincinnatis how the heck did they get? Him you, know he was great And i've gotten to Know.

Troy think a lot of them also a highly intelligent basketball, player no.

Doubt all, right we are out of. Time we appreciate The bearcat fans were with us here. Tonight we've got some stuff to give away momentarily for everybody listening on the, radio thanks for tuning. In this has been The West Miller Radio show from the Original Montgomery In home of The World's greatest rips one hundred do W L dole