10-16-25 Scott Sloan Show

First of all, let's start with that. Why would you do that now instead of like right after the city birds shooting or any of this other stuff. You're going to sacrifice her, which we'll get into a second. Why are in the middle, Okay, we need to do this right, and we're going to pull you out of a conference and bring you back and fire you. Well, why is that happening right now?

term to fire somebody. So you know, if if if if the police chiefs gotten some sort of criminal behavior or you know, sexual harassment or something of that nature, that would be caused, and then the police chief could be fired. But you can't just go. You know, politics is getting a little rough for me, Like if I may ask have and go, you know, I think I'll sacrifice the chief so that that that that's what's changed, is that now the the office of lee chief is

very very political. And and this comes to my belief if she want me to go on with this about where where we are and how we got there, is I think that that Terry Figi is not the problem. She's a symptom of the problem. I think she was given the job not for DEI reasons per se, because I think Terry's smart lady. I think she was given for good o boy reasons. I think she agreed to sing or dance to the tune of whatever the city

manager went under the dance to. And and so now we're talking about what's going on at city hall, and and got her jobs on Frivier the other day. And I could tell you care you care about how much, uh you know, crime is hurting the city of Cincinnati and its reputation and everything. And you would have to ask yourself, since you care, why does a city that cares about crime hirely like Irish Rollie. It just doesn't

make any sense. Right. So, if I'm a perspective police chief, which I'm not, and you're asking me, hey, you want to come here to my city of Cincinnati and be the police chief, I would sit there and take a look at the look at everything that's there to be dealt with, and I would I would see, I would see Irish Rolly and I'd go, well, you got to get rid of her first, And oh no, no, she's an important part of playing stuff. And that's why I go, eh, I'm out, I'm out.

Ohio law. I'm like, why am I having a consultant one hundred one thousand dollars year qute unquote consultant tell me how I'm supposed to handle and address sub suspects or subjects and people I may contact with in the course of my job. That's not in the scope of her duties. I mean, if you want to advise the mayor's officer, the city manager share along on you know, community matters, and like, you know, everyone deserves a seat

at the table. It's it's you know, it's a public enterprise. Sure, but it seems like iris Reli has way too much power for someone in her position or someone in her from as someone involved in what she is that that's the problem if I'm looking at that as a job going. If I'm here and that I'm like, hell no, i ain't come to Cincinnati because I'm not gonna have.

communicate and communicate better with me. That's it, that's all, That's all it is. And then they're paying this lady one hundred thousand dollars and that's not what she does. She doesn't communicate better. On my eyes, she's not helping us be transparent. She goes out and she gets in the way of police officers doing their work. And it seems to me this is what their belief is, is that that she somehow has the a riot button. And if we don't make iris happy she can punch a

riot button. I don't believe that she has that power. I think they think she has that power, and that's why they go around at a peether her and let her hire her son and all that stuff. But I'll also bring up the c C eight to Sistan complain authority. They do nothing but handicap the cops with ridiculous complaints, and the and the way that they deal with them, and the amount of money they throw. I'm sure they throw millions at that, all the investigators and everything they have.

And I use the word and saying too much, but imagine the insanity of you're fighting the Germans, right it's World War two. You're fighting the Germans. But we have an office out of our government that helps the Germans. I mean, that's we're trying to fight crime. And then yet we have we have folks that go out there and try to handicap the police. It's like trying to handicap the navy or the army or anything else during the time of war. It just doesn't make any sense

because we we do. We have a crisis out there, and the crisis is phony. Not to not to get too big picture, but it's it's it's it's spiritual, it's cultural, it's all sorts of things that lead to all this crime and all this trouble that we're having with the youth. And look, the problems at the state level, we don't have enough prisons. The problems huge at the county level because we have a bunch of judges that are just absolutely woke in saying that wants to get proper bails

or bonds and stuff. Yeah, that's if I have to throw a dart at the biggest problem.

this because it's against some sort of judicial ethic. But at the same time, when it comes time to vote, they're in the community telling people how to vote and meeting with constituents about how judges and how their office works. So it seems like a huge conflict and they're just cherry picking what they want and what not to do. And you know, again, how many times have we had like this guy? The guy the latest example, And I'm sadly we'll probably have another one, hopefully not tonight on

Thursday night football, Dan Hills. Can you imagine? Yeah, here's a shot in the Cincinnati skyline. Oh my god, here's the genius of water Statute, Fountain Square. Never mind those swat officers with assault weapons and helmets and tactical gear. Never mind them. But look at the it seems like a nice city. I want to visit. Well, the cops standing around Fountain Square with guns to keep people from shooting each other. At City Bird, there's a guy twenty

four years old. And I said, the minute it happened, I guarantee you that this guy's got a jacket, he's got something on him.

record that shouldn't have a gun on him. And that's the problem, right is I had a lawmaker and yesterday I don't know if you heard a lot of council person was talking about how we need to get tougher gun laws. They said, the problem, that's not the problem. The problem is you got guys out there running around with guns shooting each other who shouldn't have them. Throw them behind bart, put them in prison. If you are prohibited for him of a gun in your phone, or

you cut your ankle monitor off. We don't take it seriously enough, and that just encourages more of that behavior.

a gun. If he went away for the max time for allowed for weapons under disability. It wouldn't turn around overnight, but you could see for without a doubt that that effect would start to change because look, everybody in the community would start to talk like, man, do you know, do you know how he's doing hard time because he

had a gun, because he had previous colony. Next thing, you know, people aren't carrying guns as much and in that atmosphere, and if they don't have a gun just because just because all of a sudden they get angry. If if they're of a mindset that they get angry at somebody at the city bird, they're not going to crack off around at him. You know, I carry a gun because I'm still a policeman of this day, but plenty. If I get man at you at the city bird, I'm not going to crack off.

their car. And young people especially know that that's happening. And so that's why we're having forty seven percent increase in property cremes specific to vehicle breaks in. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. We have guns and we bring them to protect ourselves. They break in the car, steal the guns, and it causes more crime. That causes to carry it more often.

Sloan or Dan Hills to be the police chief. I think one of my first demands, because I would I would have some demands, is, look, you got to get rid of her, and you got to tone down the CCA by like, you know, eighty five percent or something so that my copperce can go out there and do their job. If not, what's the purpose of hiring me, is your police chief? Because you know I have things I want to do and to help make things a

little bit better. But again, you know, of all the things we talked about her, I covered that's going on in this world that comes all the way down to our little bird here Cincinnati. The one I can point to the easiest to say, the county judges. You know, they're just terrible when they're not sentencing people, uh for for that most important crime weapons under disability that could

help prevent these shootings. But even if they do start sentence them, I think we're running on running into problem because they are in enough room in the inn.

they want to. Because that was when they when they were bringing Terry on, they were they were telling her she had to she had a play in the sandbox with Irish Roly, at which time, if I was the police chief, I say, now, there's no way that doesn't that that doesn't benefit my people, doesn't make my people feel any more secure and them going out doing their work. If we're hiring somebody like this, yes, that makes sense.

to go. He's Dan Horde, former FOP president of the Queen City Lodge and now in private practice, the private citizen Dane Hill.

I'm the home of the best Bengals coverage. Seven hundred WLWT Cincinnati Scott's Loan Show seven hundred w l W Dan Hills minutes ago with Frontline Advisors, former FOP president and the chief Thiji is waiting her day. It's like waiting to go to the executioner in a way, in a sad way for Chief Thigi, as he said, you know, she's done some good things and some things that were like questionable. Her interaction with the beat cops could have been better, could have been worse. But she is not

the problem. The problem is the system. The problem is the head, The problem is the mayor, The problem is the city manager. The problem is having interlopers like Iris Rawley and others too involved with the process of law enforcement. And you mentioned issue five, which changed the dynamic of police chiefs not only are hired, but also who they are held accountable to. And you know, when you have Chief Fiji or anyone for that matter, she is dancing to the tune of the piper. Af tabs the piper.

She dances the tune. If you want the job, you got to dance the tune. And what's happening, I think is that she's simply going to fall on the sword.

and the word got out. The city manager's office is like, well, you know, someone leaked it out, and now we've got to answer it. And they come back and say, well, we've got some issues in the city she has to address. That's I mean, there's nothing urgent going on. What's changed. She has to immediately address departmental matters, is what Sherlong says, Well, why didn't she address apartment these issues right after what

just happened. The latest issue on Fountain Square involving the shooting at Citybird, Well it should have been done right there. But now we're dragging this thing because someone's looking for political cover. He got an election coming up, Aftabs feeling the heat. Therefore, sure Long has got to do something. And the end result is, I know, we'll fire the chief and make it look like it's her fault, when in fact, I don't know. I don't think the voters

are that stupid. I think that you realize it's the administration and this is much like firing lu An Arumo after the Bengals had dismal seasons and starts and we got to do something, and so we fire the coordinator who goes by the way, goes to Indianapolis, and they look like a playoff team. I meanwhile, the Bengals are languishing. We'll find out tonight if they can turn that around. But I think it's a I think it's a fair comparison. And I know a lot is made about community activist

Irish Roller. You know, she's making over one hundred thousand dollars a year as a consultant. I've heard worries about her sitting in with police officers or coming to town troopers who are here from the state of Ohio and others and dictating the terms of how they will interact with people. We see with law enforcement officers. Now, all law enforcement officers are trained by they got to be a pot of certified. There's certain law officers go through

strict training. There's Ohio Revised codeal and there's a lot of things they learned. I don't know. Sitting and listen to some of the community tell them how they're going to handle their interaction with a subject or a suspect. I look at that and go, not quite sure. That's something you just couldn't print on a piece of paper

and handle them. But to be lectured by Iris Rowley if you're a cop, I don't think that's going to sit well with most rank and file members of law enforcement, regardless if they're CPDU officers, SWAT officers, or highway patrol officers. But nonetheless that those are the terms in which we have engaged here politically in Hamlin County. I think it's fair for me because I think I'm the only voice

on this station that is criticized. I think rightly so the problems with a Republican controlled legislation in Columbus, and I often catch arrows as a result of that, some sort of closet liberal or something. Now I'm just tired of bs. I'm tired of people lying to me. I don't care what if you're blue or red, or black, or white or male or female. Quit lying to me. Quit tell me this is delicious, when in turn it's poison.

And I think it's fair then to turn around that criticism towards Hamlin County in the city of Cincinnati and say enough, damn it, it just doesn't work. I had my friend Anna all Beyond, and we disagreed about what needs to be done with these issues. She brought up that we need more gun laws. If we just had gun laws, none of this would be happening, to which I counter, that's bs. We have gun laws, they're just

not being enforced. One of the most pre eminent gun laws we have, of course, is something called weapons under disability, which you often see on the docket and felony cases, meaning that if you have a felony record, it prohibits you. It precludes you from having a firearm, from looking, touching, handling, owning, possessing, controlling,

or even thinking about a firearm. Can't do it. And you know, we're learning more about this individual who fire the bullets through the window a city bird, and I said, I would bet the house that this guy has priors to prohibit him from having a weapon. And guess what here we go again. Should Ryan Hitton have been running around with the gun in his hand, No, he's he's prohibited from having that weapon. The act of stealing a car and driving around it would prohibit him from having

a weapon, let alone age and everything else. So and what else he was jammed up in. And also, you could be a law abiding citizen and defend your carry a gun even if you are eighteen. But at the same time, if you're in the act of a crime, an officer tells you to do something, you're supposed to drop the gun. Not only did not drop it, he picked it up and ran towards our round officers. He set all those circumstances up that led to his death. Ryan Hinton dead. But we look at that as well,

if he would how's he getting the gun. He's getting the gun in his hand. He shouldn't. Yeah, he's under disciplined. He shouldn't have the gun. Well, the gun. There's too many guns out there, I would say. In Cincinnati, we saw, you know, the community gun thing. We've said on straw

purchasers in the past and like. And the new problem is the fact that people who live, work, and reside in Cincinnati often don't feel safe and they feel the need because maybe it's social media, maybe it's also well, these real things that are happening from time to time, and too often, may I add, in our city that

scare the hell out of people. You know, we heard testimony yesterday or maybe the day before from city Council and law and public safety, which is why I had an on and she heard the testimony going on and on and on from people who said, look, I own property in Cincinnati, I own rental property. I have people that are afraid to rent my property, my income, the investment that I made in the city that you wanted me to do. You encourage me to buy properties, Say

come to Cincinnati. Look at all the cool stuff we have. We have a vibrant towntown and be part of it. Isn't this great? Be part of the vibe? Awesome? And then we didn't do a damn thing about stopping the criminal element or pretending to stop the criminal and we just let them run rampant because of feelings. And so now I'm stuck with this property that I can't rent out because people won't come downtown because they're afraid. And for those who say, well, you know, it's just the

ignorant people. Since these largely safe, look me personally, I'll go down. I'll go downtown. There's certain neighborhoods and times I won't go out, but I will. But that's not everybody. So the fact you think downtown's perfectly safe and this is just a bunch of you know, made up stuff to talk about here on this radio station, I think you're full of it. I think you're I think that's true at all. If you have people who say, look, I can't rent, or I have a tenant that's scared.

What should I do? Or you have say, hey, listen, I live in a neighborhood, I have friends and now they're moving out because of this and they're done with it. What have we spent all this time and effort in development and learning, businesses in and tax incentives and street

cars and all that other stuff that we've done. What the hell is the point of that if it's come down to this, and so saying that, you know, we just we you know, people coming downtown now they're scared to death, and so now they feel the need to have to carry a gun with them in case they may need it because I don't know, maybe they're caught up in what happened at City Bird, or they're driving down the street and there's two idiots shooting each other.

They're shooting at me as he's shooting at the other guy in the middle of traffic and rush hour. And my job is to come home to my family. My job is to live another day. So I'm going to carry that with me. Now, I can't take it to my place of work. I can't take it here, I can't take it there, I can't take it to the Bengals game time. I can't do any of that stuff. So I leave at my car. And now young people know that they break into cars, the ayre still guns.

That's what Ryan Hint was doing. And that's all because of these failed policies. Wow, we just need more laws. No, we don't need more laws. We need judges that are going to do the hard work and enforce the laws that already on the books that if you get caught up and you're not allowed to have because of disability, a weapon and you're caught with it, we're going to

put you behind bars for a long time. Now, that mean we need more prisons, And maybe that means we, you know, the people who aren't rising and level of those crimes, maybe we need to make space with them. That's certainly that's been discussed, it's been done, it's a possibility. But guess what, it's got to stop with people who pick up guns and carry them around and use them to settle arguments. We cannot have that at all. That that sort of like Terry cy Jow will fall on

one hundred percent. And so I disagree that it's all this as well, But I think you also have to look at a relative to downtown and relative to Cincinnati, the mindset that's permeating our leadership and the administration when it comes to who's making the decisions. And you know, Aftab got elected because he's a handsome, decent looking, well spoken Asian man. I guess, multiple descents whatever. I mean, that's what we're looking for in the progressive community. Like, Okay,

he's a guy. He was in charge of license plates one day and now he'sa all of a sudden, Okay, now he's the next mayor of the city. Say this is going to be great. Everything's good, everything feels good. And it's not just it started before him. But the problem with progressive policies are they're too soft on crime. And that is one thing Democrats nationwide cannot get away from.

And that's what is making Trump trump right now. If you if you don't like Trump, well then you got to look at your own policies and how we the Democrats are on that, and how progressive policies are hurting urban cities. You know, we have ice, we have National Guard. He's exploiting that, certainly for political reasons to make a point. But the truth still remains is these are largely dangerous

areas to be in and Cincinnati is fast becoming. If we're not there already one of those areas, what does it say that here we are. We have Thursday night football in Cincinnati. We got the Steelers in town, we got people from Pittsburgh, people from Cincinnati, good natured football. Hopefully the Bengals pull this thing off tonight. We'll find out. I've got Dan Horde at eleven oh seven to talk

about this. But we're supposed to having a good time, and you know what, how many people are gonna be looking up their shoulder a little bit, and how many people are coming in from Pennsylvania or even local Steeler fans go downtown to the game and go, what the hell these guys doing around? All these swat offers are

doing around. This is I've been to games before, primetime games in my in Pittsburgh, we don't have cops standing around with automatic weapons on Fountain Square and are gathering places. I mean, we have cops, but don't look like this. And this is again what we got. So I have a sneak suspicion I might be wrong. I think Corey Bowman has made some fine points, but is deep blue as Cincinnati is. I see AFTAB winning again, and I might be wrong. I've been wrong in the past a lot.

Admit when I'm wrong, but I think it's again. It's here's the problems. People are just so used to and wanting folks like this to run things. And my fear is that okay gets reelected, is all this just going to go way? After November? Do we just go back to going Okay, I got another way, we got reelected. Great, all this stuff we're doing with the new chief in that was just to get elected. And then we go back and we'll have more of these stupid policies. Yeah,

we need more gun laws. It's the fault of the Republicans and we need to get tougher on guns. And meanwhile, we've got judges that just simply let people out and you promised you're not going to do this again. We just had a guy do right.

get a job. I need to go killing people. So if that's the attitude we have relatives to probation and relative to locking people up and incarcerating them because they have a gun under disability, whether it's Sir Ryan Hinton or anyone else, I just have a fear that that those policies are going to wind up the things we're doing right now just simply to get reelected and once the election's over, the hell with it. Because we've seen this before. We you know, to bring it full circle.

Point it back at state Republicans. We had initiatives on the ballot for marijuana and pro choice and things like and now the legends goes, Okay, elections over, I guess we're gonna do all We'll try to do that stuff. And that's the will of the people speaking right, They're sixty percent of the people say yes, or no to something. I think that's pretty decisive. You ought to bide by their wishes. But we try to find ways to poke

holes in that. And is it any different? And I can argue it's far worse and what's happening in downtown Cincinnati, because it's not gonna be long before innocent people die. You know, we had Patrick Herringer. That was a wake up call for a lot of folks regarding this issue. But you know, some innocent person could have easily gotten shot in the last two gun battles on Fountain Square that we're talking about here, and it's only a matter of time before it happens again. And you know, I

look at the beatdown in downtown Cincinnati. Why do you think people are so embolden as that they can do whatever the hell they want when they want. It's because of the vailure of leadership at the highest levels in the city. And guess what if we just keep electing the same people or versions of the same people, you get the same thing. I'm a big proponent of divided government. The more divided government is, the less crap like this

they can do, whether it's local, state, or federal. On the way Jason Philibon is here speaking of Ryan hit as Dad. Rodney Hinton Junior was in court and a court appointed psychiatrist examined Rodney Hinton and said, well, there's definitely a component of insanity here. Rodney Hinton Junior, who brutally, deliberately stalked and murdered an innocent chef's deputy by the name of Larry Henderson, is now trying to get out

of just punishment. How does that whole thing work with not guilty reason of insanity or in this case, just saying, hey, we're trying to work it down so this guy gets a life and not death. He didn't give that opportunity to Larry Henderson, that's for damn sure. Should he get it, we'll talk to We'll talk to a Jason Philibaum, attorney, a law Next on The Scotslan Show on seven hundred, w Weldon.

by Cincinnati Palasi. Video we've subsequently seen and said that kid had it coming running with a gun in his hand, dropping it, picking back up, not complying with law enforcement, and Rodney, they show the level of sociopath that he and maybe his son was decided that his son was completely innocent and we're going to have a shooting space

as such. By the way, the Hinton family is still trying to file lawsuits and make this a case against CPD and officers and saying that justice was not served in the shooting of the sun even though this kid is running around with a gun, stealing cars and committing violent crimes with impunity. That's not the kind of people we need on the street. And you know that that pervasive attitude that permits in the community is not trickled

up to the mayor's office. But nonetheless, yesterday a court appointed forensic psychologist found Rodney Hitton, Junior the dad suffering from serious mental illness, making him ineligible for the death pedal. The question is is he going to avoid punishment. We're going with the not guilty by reason of an insanity plea And this is just a preliminary by the way, this is a court appointed psychiatrist who was doing this.

And there's a long way to go, and we'll find out if and when Rodney hint And will face the death penalty. Jason Philibaum, attorney, a law, former prosecutor and Butler County defense attorney, now joins the show. Jason, how you been good morning, doing well?

very early in the game. But when you drive around and you stalk your prey. That tells me that you are of right mind, you know exactly what you're doing. This is a really difficult approach that they're using here, isn't it.

I mean that's you know, everyone that essentially commits a violent crime like that has some issue going on. The question is is the issue the mental health so severe that it is prohibited, you know, to have the state use a death penalty. And I think that's what they're looking at right now. And Clyde, he does do a good job in this case. He's essentially attacking it from

two different angles. He's saying, my client's not guilty because he's insane, and if you find him to be sane, then you can't put him to death because his mental health is so severe that that's not applicable to him.

But if it's not significant enough to impair and essentially effect their everyday life to the extent that you know, that's that's something I think would be a factual decision that has to be determined yeah.

explain that in a minute. But if the second opinion comes back and says though it's severe, then all of a sudden, you've got two opinions, one from the defense, one from the state, and they both say it's severe. Then you're going to have the situation where the state may take the death bonety off the table themselves.

traffic laws. Anyway, on that date, he's looking for a target. He's out there basically stalking, looking for law enforcement officer to kill, maybe even a white law enforcement officer. The statements and what statements he made before during because I guess when they were showing him the video, he just kind of stormed out. The family tried to calm him down. He was just angry. But a lot of people commit

crimes when they're angry. Look at the shootings at Fountain Square, that's probably about an anger, street beef stuff like that. Doesn't mean a mental mental illness or incompetency, you know. And at the time he took off, he struck him and they caught him later. And I think all that adds in the fact that you know, he made some sound decisions and was of the right mind that led up to the death of Anderson. I don't know how a jury wouldn't look at that.

insanity does and apply. Now if he's found guilt, then in a death penalty phase, you then have a sentencing phase. It's this completely separate hearing. So jury goes back and just determines is he guilty or not, and if they find him guilty, then the defense and the state get together again and they present more evidence, and at this point, the state has a burden to prove that the death penalty is applicable in this case. And that's where you

get a lot of mitigation from the defense. You know, oh he's a great guy, or oh he has these mental illness or get.

the video of the shoot and was a go. Was ruled a deemed a good shooting on the part of the police officers because the sun was running around with a gun, stolen car. Eighteen year old Ryan Hidden legally shot by Cincinnati police. He loses his mind apparently and goes and kills for no reason Deputy Larry Henderson as quote unquote revenge. And now they're trying to play thee Well, he had bipolar disorder and psychosis, and safe to say most people have some mental illness in their life. I

mean everyone thinks they're normal. The rest of the world is aft up. But that's not the case. We're all flawed in some way, shape or form. I think what he did is beyond the effect of psychosis or bipolar disorder. I mean, clearly he knew what he was doing when he murdered Larry Henderson and now is just trying to

evade his due punishment in this case. When a court appointed forensic psychologists that testify that he's got these illnesses Jason, Okay, so he testifies, prosecutors will get a second opinion and make contradute the first. How does the judge sort this all out?

jury decide, you know, the factual issues. Now, if it's clear cut, then I think the judge has a duty then to take the death penalty off the table. So if every expert says this is so severe that the death penalty shouldn't apply, then I think the judge has a duty to do it. But if you have competing experts, one says he is one says he's got issues, but not to the point that the death penalty should be excluded, then I think most judges are going to say, I'm going to let the jury decide this.

Does the death time the apply it does based on the alleged facts, And then the second question is should the defendant get the death penalty?

let you do that. It still comes down to a factual decision, though, about whether or not this individual meets those criteria, and I think that's what a jury should decide in this case.

found life. And the reason was is, you know, the guy had a bad childhood, he had some mental health issues, he was depressed, he was anxious, and they felt that was enough to you know, take off the death penalty and just do life.

the rest of my life in prison, that's awful. I think that's why defense attorneys will argue, and sometimes very successfully, that mental health is a reason why you should put this person in prison for life instead of death.

But we'll find out with the defense or the I guess the prosecutors move now and then that hearing on December first, and all the whole sorts out. But he is Jason Philipon. Thanks again for the sharp legal insight as always, buddy, appreciate you.

Something a little lighter for us today Cincinnati Pittsburgh and all closer than that the state of Terry Thiji as we await the verdict on her career future, whether and you know, again, I don't think it matters if it's Thiji or it's and Chief anybody else for that matter, in the long list people been around and again it is the piper that's calling the tune, and the piper

would be after pure Vault manager shere along. I don't know, maybe Iris rawling a bunch of others, but Fiji is like kind of like when Zach Taylor fired lou Ana Arumo last season, and that is it really lou Anaruma because he took his show to Indianapolis and they're five and one? So is it really the the person who's subject to the rule or the rulemakers themselves? You decide.

Seven hundred W wild Scott Floan show. This is a seven hundred W wild w who just ran that story about the represent of Dave Taylor Claremont County, And I guess someone whose office had a flag I didn't describe it as on a blog the substack called the Rooster when I give a credit there to the person who broke the story. But someone's on a conference calling the background. He's on American flag and the middle bars. I don't

know how to describe this. Middle bars are the red stripes across America flag are altered in the fashion to make it look like a swastika in the middle of it, and comparatively to a Nazi swastika, which is kind of angle. This is upright. I don't know. It's just a weird, weird story that's breaking right now. I don't know if it's a photo manipulation, if it's a real thing, but a reportedly capital The police have gone and actually sees the flag itself, and at some point we'll have an

update on that investigation. I've reached out to Representative Taylor, and I'm sure at some point I'll come on and talk about it as they continue the investigation. So we have that going on this morning as well. Every time one of these stories break, I go, you think, maybe the price, you know, and I hate to say it's gonna come out wrong. There's a lot of the stuff I say oftentimes, but I'll just blurt it out there.

You think maybe some of these boosters programs and our towns, villages and hamlets that maybe just got too much money. Not to blame the victim here at all. We have a couple of stories that are g Layton right now. Dearborn County. Dearborn got forty six year old president of

a civics club in a small town Dearborn County. This charge of a felony for stealing over well, it was like one hundred thousand dollars still fifty grand between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty five kind of bled them a little bit, but the amount is actually higher than that. And now he's in hot water because this small town civics club, he was using it to go to casinos and trips and cruises and everything else. In Mason, a forty four year old woman who's convicted for theft I

think a fellony five and telecommunications fraud. She's stole over six thousand dollars from the Mason Football Boosters account to pay personal credit card expenses. She was the head of the Mason Cheerboosters group, so she had some access to the football booters, I guess doing them some help. But then they said, well, wait a minute, she's not even with the football boosters, and yet she got six thousand dollars.

Let's check out the Mason cheer booster's account, and there they found that she stole almost thirty thousand dollars from that account. Now people hear that. I hear that and go, what is wrong with you? You're stealing from kids, you're still from civic organizations. But at the same time, the other part of me is, and this is not the first time that's happened. Is this happens rather frequently if you follow it. And the amount of money that's being

grifted here is it's not the tenas. What's a lot of money, you know, specifically, I look at the Mason one, which is close to home for me. Okay, six thousand from the football, thirty thousand dollars from the cheer boosters, And look than some of these accounts, and they're in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. And one I think legitimately I may ask, is well, you know, why are you stealing the money? Because I think they probably see it as a victimist crime. They probably go, well, you know,

I deserve it because I volunteer. I do the same reason, the same excuse that there's a psychological term for this, and and bother looking that up. I'll just spurt this. But where we're like, you know, pastors will skim money, or they'll involve in, you know, extra marital affairs. All the stuff that they preach against doing, they'll do themselves.

There's a sense of entitlement that I was like, well, I work hard, and I'm good in all these other lives and improving other lives and other charities and things I do, and so I'm allowed this deliance, I think is the how you describe. It's kind of like for the rest of us would be, hey, you know I ate right and exercised, I did all this stuff that I did. You know what, I deserve to eat an entire pizza. It's kind of like the same mentelity. I

think I'm gonna be wrong about that. But in both cases, and specifically, I mean you're sitting there go like wow, yeah times, or or like there's just stuff I want that I can't afford because the decisions I made, or because of things that happened in my life. Or combination of both, which is true for all of us. I mean, hell, I would love to go buy a, you know, a Lamborghini, but scotts Loan's not buying a Lamborghini anytime soon Afterdamn sure,

I'm gonna continue to driving the old truck. The same for you, so we don't go and do those things because I really don't. I can't do any more prison time personally, I can't. I can't be down. I just I've been there, I've done that. I'm not going back to prison. And you probably think the same way, like, yeah, I don't want to be I don't want to throw everything away. I've worked for my entire life. I'm good, So I guess I won't get that Lamborghini or that

shiny new thing. Some people can't stay stand out of control those urges. But I also look at it and go, how much money do you actually need for high school and middle school cheerleaders? And I know it's going to come off as victim blaming and I'm trying not to do that, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why you need that much money. I know there's travel, and there's uniforms and expenses and really is there or is it just you make that up and go, yeah, well,

we got all these things we need to do. Do you really need to have home and away uniforms and travel and have fireworks at a touchdown in middle school? And you really don't, No, you don't. But we've gotten away from that in America, and that's probably true for the industry. It's created. As you know, we have kids that are five six seven having personal trainers and coaches

and five sixty seven. You know, when we're five six seven, we barely keep our shoes on, Like when I coached my son's little league team when he's not very athletic. Admittedly he doesn't like it. We tried, we tried soccer, we tried t ball, we tried all that stuff, and yeah, at that age, you're lucky if you can get them to keep their glove and shoes on, let alone practice

the art of a double play. It's not happening. And so we've got all this invested because when our kids would be successful athletes and we prop them up in Athlete of the Week and athlete this, and they're going to get a scholarship and probably not, but we hope. So when you know we put so much in those adults, and it doesn't surprise me there's that much money in those accounts, which is allure for some people. But the

fact that people steal money's nothing new. The fact that we have one hundred thousands of dollars in cheerleading accounts and boost your accounts and stuff like that. I could see that college because that's college money. But middle school, high school, I don't know. Man, I don't know. But that's back on all of us, isn't it. That's on me and that's you because that's what we hold up here. This doesn't surprise me. So STORYU of Arkansas this morning.

Bear with me a second. This guy is running for sheriff, So what case you guy's running for sheriff in some place in Arkansas? So what the sheriff is facing second degree murder charges? Because now check this out, he admitted to He said, yep, I shot the guy. Sixty seven year old man was found with the sheriff the candidate's fourteen year old daughter in the candidate's car right now. I'm sorry. In the guy's name is Michael Fossler, sixty

seven years old. The sheriff' named Aaron Spencer, the guy running for sheriffs Aaron Spencer. Spencer admits he shot sixty seven year old Michael Fossler after finding Fossler with his fourteen year old daughter alone in Fossil's car. At the time, Fossler was out on bail after being arrested on accusations of sex crimes, and not just one, dozens of sex crimes involving the same fourteen year old girl. Now, if your mom, if your dad, what do you think about

him running for office? He's looking at forty five years in prison and obviously would become disqualified from being sheriff. Three hundred and sixty thousand people, I said, three hundred and sixty thousand people outside a petition hoping to absolve him of his alleged crimes. And it's small, rural Arkansas. But nonetheless, the polling suggests he would win that election hands down, and he admitted to murdering a man who is facing sexual molestation charges against his daughter. I would

vote for Aaron Spencer. I know what the laws are, and I know what the rules are. And maybe it's because I live in Cincinnati, Ohio, and I see what happens. I get it, like there are crimes and then there are crimes, right, the Epstein stuff. I get the outrage. I get the anger that people on the right feel about what's going with the Epstein fils. Oh my god, yeah, we're gonna expose it to do this. Okay, Yeah, there's nothing to see here. Wait, it just went away. It

didn't really go away. It's gone back back up there in the election. There's no doubt. So I get that there are crimes are just so egregious and so heinous, and even the suggestion the propriety of it is a hanging of fence. And so when you hear those stories and then you see what's happening to a lesser lovel, I'm not. I would to say lesser love of murder's pretty serious too. People shooting eachself. You realize, like, Okay,

vigil ante time. The dude's a vigilante and he is the reason he would win that election is because he symbolizes the vigilantie we're looking for. We're looking and for someone to kick come in and kick ass. Remember that you're old enough the old Charles Bronson movies back in the day, right and we've got Reacher today. It's the

same thing. When there's times like this where you feel like, wow, the world's out of control and there's dangerous people running around with impunity and no one's keeping them in check. We always have the rise of the vigilani Hollywood character right and reach her. I mean kind of sort of fits that role, not like Charles Bronton did back in

the day, but that's always been popular. We just need a bad ass to whoop some ast, and we just need someone go whoops some ass with the bad guys here off the record, we kind of this guy's like, you know what, he's with my daughter. He's ready to charges and he's back with it again and he's on it. You probably should get shot. I think he's doing at that case, at sixty seven, maybe doing society a favor. Now he may be I know, this is not justice. No,

he should come on. That's horrible. You can't say that because he should have his day in court and the whole thing. But I mean, come on, man, you don't think this guy did something. He's arrested on dozens of sex crimes against the fourteen year old who hasn't a car. Again, I mean maybe you know, I'm sure there's someone going, well, the fourteen year old, Well, why was she in the car with him? Why aren't you watching your daughter? Or why was she with Well, she's making your own decision.

I'm sorry, you're fourteen year underage. You can't make those decisions. I kind of get what's going on in Arkansas there, and it's just it's again a reflection of our times. He is somewhat the anti hero. This Aaron Spencer got's comedy. Interesting story. I'd imagine it's probably gonna get a lot more legs. But you know, he still did, indeed murder a man, and you're gonna be sheriff. And I don't know if that enables you to then go do other

vigilanti type stuff. But I get where the sentiment is, like I don't know who the other candidate is, but this dude's a badass. Like you know, I'm a father of a girl, so I'm with him. Like that stuff goes on. You gotta do what you gotta do. So I don't know if I do it, but I sure respect the hell out of it. That's for sure. That's for sure. That's going on in Arkansas by the way Arkansas. We gotta get a news update, so coming up in just minutes. Here, Dan Horde, voice of the Bengal's gonna

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that overshadow this event. Hopefully the knuckleheads on the field can figure this out and get a win for the first time since Joe Burrow went down four straight losing sarshow shirt games losing and look to break that where they win tonight against the Pittsburgh Stale. It's gonna be tough and the icy hot bulls we've been calling it between Joe Flacco and a guy that used to be up north that is now over in the East and Pittsburgh and Aaron Rodgers. Tonight, we'll have the game for you.

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You got Miami, Arizona, Cleveland. So you know, at this point in the season, we're doing the math and trying to get to nine wins. But tonight, tonight feels like you can't let Pittsburgh go to five and one on That is the voice of the Bengals. That would be Dan Horde this morning on seven hundred w welw and Dan, I was talking about you just days ago, and condolences to you. Jim Kelly Junior, your broadcast partner for many many years, over two decades passed away from cancer too early.

You read that and went, man, I know he was sick, but I didn't know it was his Time's condolences to you the Bearcat family. You can't say enough about how good a guy he was.

upcoming game. People love doing that with him. He loved doing it with them. He's just an awesome person. And man, I'm going to miss him so much. It came way too quickly. Just a few weeks ago, he had had a surgical procedure and at that point kind of anticipated he would miss one game and then would be back. And unfortunately, cancer sucks and it took his life far too soon.

eight uninterrupted years. It's just an incredible family legacy. The UC Athletic Hall of Fame is named for his dad. Jim Junior is in the Hall of Fame. They're both UC Hall of Famers. So man, he's going to be missed.

could you get to nine? Sure, but boy, it feels like a must win the night to me.

coming up. Here's what the Steelers have coming up. The Packers, Colts, Chargers, Bills, Lions. Two of their last few games of the season are against the Ravens when Lamar should be back. So they're probably going to come back to the Pack somewhat, but the climb to catch them gets much easier if you can beat them head to head. Tonight, the Bengals would

be two and zero in the division. They would have had to head win against Pittsburgh in their pockets, right, must win, No, but pivotal game, absolutely, Yeah.

five times, including four fumbles, and they lost all four. Now, give Pittsburgh credit for forcing some of those turnovers, but there's certainly a luck element there when you fumble at four times and it goes to the other team every time. So Pittsburgh's good. I'm not sure that they have the ceiling of a team that can go a long way in the playoffs. But they get the best quarterback play they've had in a long time out of forty one year old.

who he could depend on. Who's a It takes a while to build chemistry.

seven after halftime, completed seventy percent of his passes. So I think he should be better over the course of four quarters in this game instead of like really struggling for the first two and then being really good in the last two. And he's certainly used to what he's going to see tonight. I think he's played against Pittsburgh twenty five times, including playoff games. He beat him last

year while playing for the Indianapolis Colts. So there's nothing he's going to see tonight that he hasn't seen before.

had some really long drives. The first drive of the second half was a seventeen play drive that should have helped the defense, but for whatever reason, the defense couldn't get a stop when they needed to in the second half. The Packers obviously had a lot to do with that. Jordan Love and that team is really good, but they need four quarters out of the defense. They've been getting two sometimes two and a half. If they haven't gotten four since Week one.

So yeah, Yossi Vosh had a lousy game last week, but I would expect him to be fine tonight.

of the highest paid players in the league. We said, then, the formula on defense, because it's the salary cap league, will have to be younger and cheaper, and I think this is a move in that direction. They've got two linebackers that they drafted this year that they like, and they want to try to develop them as quickly as possible.

So I think they're willing to live with some growing, growing plant pains and hope that Metrius Knight and Barrett Carter can be their duel for a long time going forward.

of work tonight. Because the other guy in there, Trey Hendrickson, is still questionable. We won't ultile what about six forty five, six thirty six forty five if he's even going tonight.

Didn't play that much in the second game before he suffered his injury, but he had a lot of wild moments at training camp and it's going to be fun to see him back out there against it.

Aaron Rodgers gets out the ball. I think one of the quickest release times in the National Football League, if I'm not mistaken, like well under two point five seconds. Talk about the deep threats there because they brought DK Metcalf over from the Seahawks to address that, and he has been the go to option in that pass game.

a game, but he's taking care of the ball. He's only got three interceptions he's not taking sacks. He's only been sacked nine times. They don't have a lot of negative plays on offense, so they're rarely in like third and ten, third and twelve. They just kind of have been methodically moving down the field. Don't have a great

running game, at least not yet. But Rogers has been effective. Im. I'll give him credit because I didn't know how much he had left, and he's actually been playing pretty well.

away in the fourth quarter, they pull it out. That's the type of game the Bengals need to play tonight. I don't think the Bengals have a defense that's going to hold any bent buddy to a tiny yardage total. That's just not who they are right now. But they are capable of getting some takeaways. They got them in the first two games when they won. I think that's going to be a real key to the game tonight. Yeah.

blitz percentage. They've got six guys that have multiple sacks, led by Nick Herbig, who technically isn't even a starter. He's got four and a half sacks. He plays a lot, but he's technically not listed as a starter. He's thirty six. He's still good. TJ. Watt is still there. He's thirty one. He's still good. The guy that I was hoping that the Bengals are going to take in the first round

this year, Derek Harmon having an excellent rookie year. I'm happy the Bengals wound up with Tamar Stewart because I think he's going to be great. But I really like Derek Harmon going into the draft, and I think the Steelers added another scud to their defense.

Hooday magic. Get out the schneid here. Four game we cannot make it all five game losing streak. Nonetheless, Dan Horde all the best, Buddy, Thanks for checking in this morning. Have a great game, Thanks Lenny. Thursday Night Football eight to fifteen, we got the pregame show starting at three o'clock. Holy girled Banks, the boys are down there and we've got football and Cincinnati in a Thursday Night seven hundred WLW.

That poor woman has sacrificed so much with me being on the d L, So thank you for that.

get a better quality of life. Yeah that's not true. What a bunch of crap. Everything exists to sell us something. I don't know what to do. Let's talk about real estate related stuff. I know the tariffs are hitting home. You want to talk about that this morning?

five percent on cabinets and furniture. So you know, you're seeing the increase. You're going to see the increase of pretty much everything that you need in your home is the prices are going to go up. And then January first, wooden furniture is rising to thirty percent tariffs and kitchen cabinets fifty percent. Kitchen cabinets and vanities. And people don't realize that cabinets are a really significant number, like the big number in home buildings.

If they work, they're warranted to the whole bit. Now, when you get to the hardwoods and veneer woods and custom cabinets, that can be exorbitant because there's a lot of labor, and now you add the cost of important materials, and so that's.

You know they're going to be repainted, they're going to be you're going to just try to find anyway not to replace those cabinets, because when you get into replacing cabinets, when you're doing at home renovations, you're looking at tens of thousands of dollars, right, You're looking at ten or twenty thousand dollars for new cabinets, and you're like, oh, is there any way I can get away with the

ones that I've got? And you know, like I said, we've seen some cabinets that have been around fifty years or more because people just don't want to even the cabinets in our new house, our old cabinets that were refurbished and were painted. And so the business of repainting cabinets has really increased over the years. It's become common, it's commonplace. The quality is so much better when you're repainting cabinet. People will ask me, you know, I've got this.

Maybe it's maple, maybe it's a different type of the woods, but I'm tired of this wood color. You know, I don't want to the dark cherry color that's been out for a while. Can I paint my cabinet? The answer is absolutely yes, and there are some really good companies and individuals out there who will do it well. Because if you don't do it well and you don't take it, if you try to just paint on your cabinet just willy nilly like you, we're going to.

those lines make it look like it's sprayed. If if that's not for you, you're not handy, don't want to do that, or maybe a little bit money, but you want to do new cabinets, you can have a professional painter come in. They'll take the cabinet doors off, take them and spray them and then probably handpaint the trim. It'll look really, really good. You can go that route much cheaper. There's companies that come and reface cabinets and put them in the ear on top of the old

one and you really won't notice. There's a little bit you can tell when the doors are open. It's a little bit different. But I mean really for the cost savings is it's night and day and they can do that in a day or two. Yeah, there's all sorts of different options you can. And the other thing too is if you have old cabinets, I think you just have to look at them or I have a professional look and go all right, how good is the carcass, which is the box itself. I mean, you think about it.

A cabinet is just a box that sits on the floor, it hangs on the wall, It doesn't go anywhere. The hinges may wear out, the doors may wear out, but those things are replaceable. I would say, if the bones, if the cabinet and the carcass are good, and you're looking at a cost of brand new cabinets, you may want to rethink that whole process because you want to lean more towards what we're talking about here.

But yeah, if you have something that's a hardwood and old wood or something like that, my god, yeah, those things will last. You know, get new doors to hardware right as a.

the cost of tariff to you. And we're looking at anywhere between the estimates are going to be about fourteen percent higher, potentially about ten thousand dollars on the average home. You're going to see increases. So it's definitely going to cost and the whole I guess the reason why the tariff starts trying to get more and more American would putting being put back into the timber right to be put back into the system. And that's going to take

some time. Like that's not something you can't take those sawmills and just crank them up.

I was looking at drywall fixing something. I'm like, my god, if she had a drywall, now was what she'd apply withou she plywood used to be not long ago, same things. You know, seventy percent of the gypsum comes from Mexico, so you know, we have the duties on all this stuff.

It's just driving the cost up. And then you add in steel and aluminum and plastic pipe and copper, and now appliances of course too, are are deeply affected by this as well, because we import about eighty percent of our aluminum and almost twenty percent of our steel, So all the stuff is going up. You just I'm waiting for the jobs to come at this point, Okay, we're getting We're getting killed right now when it comes to building supplies and housing and everything out everything that we buy.

And I'm waiting for the jobs to be created and get these prices backing at least some sort of trade balance to go in effect, but we're not seeing.

maybe we'll be better off in the long run. Again, we'll have to wait and see. We'll have to wait and see.

a lot of patients. So even I had a new listing go on with one of my agents yesterday and by the end of the day she's like, uh, we don't have any showings scheduled yet. I'm like, yeah, and you may not for a few days because byers buyers are really taking their time. A lot of them have hunkered down, i think for the rest of this year and they're not going to make a change, and so there are fewer buyers out there looking they are. If you are looking, and you are a buyer, you probably

have very very specific needs. You may want a ranch in a certain price range and maybe that doesn't exist or it doesn't exist, and that might that type of a property myself very very quickly. But overall, a lot of just really really nice homes are on the market right now, and they have been for forty five days or more, and sellers are getting a little nervous, and so we're seeing a lot of uncertainty in the real estate market. And with that uncertainty, you know, becomes opportunities

for buyers. So I tell buyers, right now, the mortgage interest rates around six point three five or something like that, depending on your credit, so it's less than seven percent, and there are opportunities out there. Don't be afraid to look at a home that's been on the market for a long time. There's nothing wrong with it. You know it used to be in the day. Well, that house has been on the market for three weeks because there must be something wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with

that house. It's perfectly great. It just may not have had the right buyer walk through. And I very much encourage people if you are a buyer and you are looking sort of broaden maybe what you're looking for and take a look at a few of the houses that have been on the market for a minute, because those sellers are going to be more willing to negotiate. And that's something that you may now you're not gonna Let's not go back to those days, because I've been in

this business, as you know, for twenty years. Let's not go back to the days when we're putting in offers that are thirty thousand dollars less from less price.

a factory going to put in there? And then secondly, looking at the the guy had the architectural plans out there and you know, looking at what it was going to be and what the restrictions were, and also landscaping can kind of go a long way too. So we looked at it and said, you know what, I think this is the fact that people see bulldozers and freak out.

You know, you're going to be looking through someone's back window in the suburbs, or in this case, it was likely and you know, there were restrictions in place when they could do deliveries, and we're looking at it, going, okay, this is we can do some landscaping in the backyard. And you know, it turns out it was probably one of the best investments who ever made, not only because we raised our kids there, but then we turned around and sold and the people loved it because it's like,

oh my gosh, it's so nice in private back here. Well, yeah, because you know you saw that coming and you know we're lucky to get that opportunity. But also, I think when you're doing this, you can't you can't. Well there's a reason why. So though you know it's been on the market for two months or whatever, well why is that? You know, find out why, and then actually think about hey, can I work around this, because then you can find a bargain.

there's always ways around it. Like you said, there's landscaping and the trees that you can buy that will provide screens and it won't completely If you're backed up to a road, that's not always going to be the best location. But then again maybe not, maybe it is.

Willie is on the way. We are on the Terry Thigi Chief Terry Thigi career deathwatch right now, and she's going to fall on the sword for the incompetent administration of the City of Cincinnati haws crime to run ramp and then blames the chief and has to do with the stupid policies, I think, But nonetheless we'll keep an eye out for that. And of course we've got Thursday night football tonight, Bengals and Steelers tonight, and it all kicks off three o'clock, by the way, live broadcast down

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