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both the left and the right has been incredible. Getting too this more after nine thirty five here on the Scotsland Show on seven hundred WLW, I wanted to circle back though, kind of handle some old business here, something that happened over the holidays. And typically that's the way things are set up. When you want to do something that's controversial or will upset the appal kart so to speak, you tend to do it like on a Friday, a weekend.

You do it when many people aren't paying attention. I would say doing it a Friday when it's the holidays is not going to as much attention as it should. I'm talking, of course, about what happened to the CBD infused beverage ban that Mike de Wine single Bagley took his line out of Veto powers and killed an entire industry. And this, of course, are beverages that are sold or sold anywhein Ohio that contained THC small amounts of it too, derived of course from CBD, and a lot of people said, hey,

this is pretty good. We're taking this product, and technically it was, yes, a loophole, but a whole industry started in what used to be the craft brew industry, and a lot of puerveyors were switching over and saying, hey, there's a market for this product here. People clearly like it. They want more of it, they demanded. And yet the governor, in some sort of I don't know what, self righteousness or knowing better and being in the Naty State killed

this whole thing. Joining the show this morning on seven hundred WLW is the CEO of Ryan Geisberg right here in Cincinnati, Adam Bankovic, Adam, good morning, Welcome.

the last few years that that's entirely accurate. But how much of this is impacting your business or will this impact your business?

seen the climb in the craft beer industry. So, as you pointed out, this is an emerging segment that we've seen grow rapidly across the country and becoming a real

part of the marketplace here in Ohio. More recently so, Ryan Geist, among many other crap breweries in the state of Ohio have looked to it as we know that we've got lots of consumers in the marketplace that are asking for these beverages and wanting these beverages, and very clearly, not only do those consumers want those, but crap breweries are very well set up and established to be able to produce them safely, responsibly, and effectively, which is something

that we're huge advocates for that there is smart, responsible regulation of this industry, of this marketplace, of these beverages to make sure that we're clearly communicating to customers what they are, they are only being served to adults twenty one and up, and that there's clear regulation in place promoting all of that, which is what the Ohio General Assembly and Steve Huffman worked so tirelessly on, in my opinion, a very great job with SB fifty six creating clear,

responsible regulation, and that's what changed when Governor DeWine chose to line at in veto specifically the intoxicating beverage section of SB fify.

and they're just not drinking at the rates. Older millennials and certainly Gen xers like myself and baby boomers who are older, are consuming alcohol to the point where we've had a I was just talking about this yesterday, Gallop, a ninety year low. As far as alcohol consumption goes, it's incredible. And yet I think that's also true because there are so many options in order to well self medicate if you or make yourself feel better. I know a lot of people that enjoy the THHC slash CBD

and fused beverages and go. You know what I don't feel is maybe as bloated, I don't feel as I feel different the next day. I feel actually feel better than I do after drinking alcohol, and people are moving towards that. Why not satisfy that sector because that's just true. Do you have someone to tell us so heavily invested in in graft.

But I'd also point out that everything that we're seeing and learning, it's not only the younger generation that are interested in the intoxicating HEMP beverages. It's really expanning all demographics as everyone's just enjoying the benefits of these low test beverages. It'd be really clear when I'm talking about the benefits, we are not advertising or marketing these as

healthy alternatives to alcohol. We're speaking about anecdotes we receive from doing consumer studies and panels and talking to those that are participating this beverage category. And I think that's a really important point that this entire industry is aware and acknowledging of, and SB fifty six is also doing a good job making sure that there's no unproven health

claims on packaging as an example, because it's important. Just like alcohol is regulated, and I'm not trying to draw a direct parallel or make these categories analogous, but there's queer governing rules for alcohol and what you can and can't do and say about benefits or lack there or lack there of of known benefits and alcohol, and that makes sense, and it is logical, and a lot of regulation and guidelines can and should exist in the intoxicating

beverage category as well to make sure that we're communicating responsibly and effectively to consumers. So when I'm talking about those who are choosing to drink less alcohol or abstain from alcohol entirely, and maybe they are finding great use in the intoxicating that beverage category, we're talking about anecdotes and real consumer feedback on learning what they're looking for and why they're looking for it, and that's really really different. I want to make it really clear that I have

not seen any actors in the state of Ohio. Certainly our intent to falsely advertiser represents these products, but at the same time, we do know why the consumers are turning to them.

the people what they want. And not only that, you know, it's seemingly grossly unfair to yourself and other peer veyors, Adam, that you invested a lot in that technology and infrastructure to ramp this up, only to have that karpo pulled off from und you has the Dwine administration Mike Dwine himself addressed this to your satisfaction and yeah, I've talked to lawmakers like Steve Hoffman and others, and there's seemingly no answer for the line I'm as to why he

struck this down. Are you getting satisfactory responses from him? Is what the reasoning was?

SP fifty six. So yes, it was very disruptive and shocking when the line Adam Vita specific just toe in toxicating hemp beverages was introduced and signed all at once, and so we're still to your point when we open the segments that was right around the holidays, and we're all as an industry collectively, and I'm talking about manufacturers to distributors to retailers, all of us, which are the three tiers of the system here to get this out

to market. We're still kind of gathering and understanding exactly what happened and what can be done about it so that all the investments that have been made can be sustained going forward, and honestly, more importantly, in my opinion, this is also about supporting Ohio business and making Ohio business competitive with other state manufacturers or even national companies who are finding great success with these beverages and states

that have created very smart, very responsible regulation. And I think the General Assembly was doing a great job looking at what other states have done, who were ahead of the curve in this category than we were, and trying to get to Ohio up the speed because there's other

commentary happening where federally. In November of twenty twenty six, not only will intoxicating hemp no longer be allowed which was passed as part of the reopening of the federal governm in the Appropriations bill related to Partment of Agriculture, but also CBD beverages and CBD products are also going

to be limited in November of twenty twenty six. And that's an even larger category than the intoxicating hemp, CBD being a cannabinoid from the same plant that is now intoxicating and lots of people turn to for health benefits. So really, what Ohio, in my opinion, should be doing is using the smart responsible regulation from Sub sixty six

to allow Ohio business to continue to prosper. And then in SB fifty six there was also a consideration acknowledging that when the federal government provides more clarity prior to November twenty twenty six, Ohio will look at that and then adapt as necessary. Whereas right now we're in a situation that the industry will have to shut down in March if nothing changes, and that will leave Ohio businesses behind other states who continue to regulate and support this marketplace.

is the wine getting lobby money from big alcohol? Well probably, I don't know, because it's you know, if people aren't consuming the product like they once did, and there's all their alternatives out there. You mentioned non alcoholics Adam Bankovich from ryan Geist that you know, that's another big sector right there. Mocktails are huge right now. Nan alcohol beers are fantastics. I've tried many of them, and it's certainly not like the when Oduel's rolled out back in the day,

it was it didn't taste very good. Now they taste really, really good, and so there's a lot of diversity in those products that you offer as well. But simply banning entire sector here doesn't seem to be a good idea because people are going to people demand it, but they're going to find a different alternative to this, which might be even more dangerous. Which is is the scary part. Is there a hope that legislatively speaking, this is not dead.

that's been submitted, and so that effort is ongoing. It's been turned in in my understanding, already to Franklin Rose, the Secretary of State and Devostate Attorney General, and so that timeline is that they need to review the referendum agic was submitted by January thirteenth, to approve the signatures

and verify it. And if and when that happens on the thirteenth, then the deadline becomes a date in March to be named where two hundred and forty eight thousand, ninety two signatures would be needed across the eight counties of Ohio, and there's a certain number needed within forty four of the eighty eight counties. And if that referendum were to pass and be approved, then this issue would actually end up on the November ballot and voters would

decide what they want to happen. Separately from that, we're also having conversations with the General Assembly as we did as they were crafting SD fifty six. Lots of members on all sides, both political parties, House and Senate have been listening, which is really really encouraging, and I've been

very appreciative of all those efforts. So we're still talking to them to see if there's any interest within the General Assembly on a legislative override, but that would require a two thirds fote approval in both the House and the Senates, and those conversations aroundgoing, I'm not sure if there's enough interest there or not.

clearly enjoy them, the market, the sectors growing. Why would you try to take that away, especially if you're someone who allegedly is pro small business in business growth, why would you limit that it doesn't make much sense. Adam Bakovich is the CEO of Guys, joining the show this morning with Sloani here on seven hundred WLW. Kind of revisiting.

We'll get in the Minnesota stuff on this a little bit different topic entirely obviously, but this is something that happened over the holidays, and generally when stuff happens over the holidays or a weekend, it's something that you know, the establishment really doesn't want you to know about. They kind of downplay it. It's a huge issue because so many people enjoyed it and going, wait, what they're taking this stuff away?

how much money you yourself invested in. Other individuals I talked to involved in the craft brew industry in Cincinnati. You know, you don't want to see those investments simply just evaporate as they have so far in the interim. How you holding up? You're painting a picture saying, Wow, you're the craft brew thinks kind of fading. We're kind of leaning into this, And you know, maybe not for you guys, because the scale in which you guys operated

much bigger than a lot of locals. But the craft brew industry and know locally internationally, tends to be a close knit group of people who are, yeah, competitors, but at the same time you kind of pull for each other. How are some of these smaller operations doing, do you know?

to talk with the ohiocraft brewers about it. And I know there's some that are reeling from this more than others, I think the answer for all of us is that we need to find whatever can possibly work to just make sure that we're staying competitive within the marketplace. And it's really hard to do when we spent a lot of time here today talking about the diversity beverage. I agree with you, non alcoholic beers have come a long way,

but the rallies, they're very expensive to make. So if we're looking at the areas where craft brews can invest and make some things safely and effectively and responsibly and support our businesses that we've established, of craft beers declining. Since we are not able to control the general trends of the craft beer marketplace, there's very few things that

we concerned to and look to do. And this is one of those emerging segments like the early days of the craft beer boom, where a lot of Ohio craft brewers are looking at this saying, hey, we can make that, we can make it taste great, we can have it tested, we can follow all the responsible labeling requirements. So if it's not this, we're going to have to learn what else we can do. And you're right, we ryn Gus is a larger craft brewers in the state of Ohio.

But you're also right that we've spent a long time developing this product and for the marketplace to go away in Ohio is very disappointing, and we're really hoping that something will change to allow it to exist as we wait for the federal guidance.

characteristics of that product. And so its been two years on something and then for the marketplace to go away overnight when we worked so hard to make sure that the Ohio generally assembly was informed about the category and writing regulations to allow and promote business to exist in Ohio was disappointing. So you're right, there's lots of things on my priority list, but this has been up top the priority list for a long time and it's going to remain there.

that towards Governor DeWine here too. There's no answer. I've talked to lawmakers and people like Adam that there's no reason as to why Mike DeWine decided who's gonna kill this entire sector doesn't after to answer to anybody in that regard to and we still don't know why that should trouble all of us listening. Quick time out, we'll pivot. We'll get to the very latest. What's going on in Minnesota.

Me and you talking this one out as to what you saw in your reaction coming up next year, and something that I think was missed in this whole thing and our fight over who's right and who's wrong in America, I think we're missing the big picture on something. I'll touch on that right after news update here on seven hundred ww boy, Hell of Us starts at twenty twenty sixth Huh. We have an eleven year old girl murdered

on New Year's Day. We take out Maduro in vade Venezuela, and all our teams are over the New year here in Cincinnati. And now this yesterday morning in Minneapolis, ice agent shot killed Renee Good. We know our name now, Renee Good, thirty seven year old mother of one and also US citizen, appears to be Caucasian and intentionally blocked a group of officers. And big picture here is there have been what seven officer involved shootings, two of them

fatal now involving ICE and other individuals. So yeah, I'm sure you've seen the video by now. If you haven't, it's about five six seconds maybe, And the person shooting the video is up close obviously, And agent approaches a c a SUV that's parked perpendicular to the street, somewhat blocking traffic. Not sure if this person's trying to get out. Some of the reports did say that this individual was, you know, blocking traffic. Others say she's trying to turn

around or whatever. But nonetheless, you have a bunch of ICE agents uniformed, labeled marked. These are marked, and these aren't like undercover. You kind of know what's going on there. And the driver, as an agent approaches the front of the vehicle, says, hey, roll your window down. I need

to talk to you. She doesn't do that. He tries to reach for the handle of the door from the outside, and at this point then she accelerates, now out of a high rate of speed as we've seen in the past and other other circumstances, but attempts to in the street's icy too, I believe, and tries to leave, but there's another agent in front of them. This one pulls their weapon out and fires a deadly shot. It looked appears to be like one round through the driver's side

window that hits and strikes this woman. The suv speeds forward because at that point I'm guess saying that is good is no longer with us or some of the throes of dying. The vehicle speeds forward, strikes a park car short distance away. They render aid and she is sadly she has died. Almost the instant though this this awful news broke, we have two sharply different narratives that didn't just take hold. I mean they really were pushed

actively by politicians. And on the right you had Christy Noman others labeling this as an issue of domestic terrorism, and that's a stretch. Certainly, the ICE agent was acting in self defense. That's pretty clear. Tactically speaking, it doesn't appear as if this was a good decision to stand in front of a car. We know Cincinnati and the way we police hear now because of what happened with Sam Debo some other cases, officers have said, hey, you know, it's not a good idea to stand in the front

of a vehicle. But you know, we had a in occurrence I think it was in Columbus, was it where that individuals being stopped in a car backing of a parking spot cop shot her, But you know, to label them as a domestic terrorist, I don't know if I agree with that. On the other side, on the left, the progressive left, you have this calling him active murder. Well, it's not murder if you're a Swan law enforcement officer.

And so the after the video came out, we had these parallel rushes to judgment and everyone's just sting and we still don't know the entire story, right. But my perspective on this is what does this say? What does it say about us here in Cincinnati. I can't speak for what's happening in Minnesota. I can talk about the fields here in Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana. And what troubles me about this whole thing is not the shooting itself. We'll get into that a minute. Is So this story

is an entirely different time zone. It's in Minnesota and we're paying attention to it. But right now in Cincinnati, as far as social media goes trends, people talking, this is a bigger issue, a bigger story then the murder of Quinnary Reid in Laurel Playground, the eleven year old girl who was shot to death on New Year's Day? And what does that say about us? Wait, wait a minute, here's something that we haven't can have an impact on

because it's local government. It's local and it's it's fair to ask, hey, where the cameras, what happened to the money? And I did all that yesterday's show and been doing that all week. What where's the accountability here? And hold them to a standard. But even that topic is like, yeah, okay, yeah, ke eleven year old kids shot. Mean, it's it's sad, it's horrible. But because this involves conservatives and progressives, this

thing is just escalate. It's all anybody's talking about. And that is you know, well, we can certainly second guess our administration, we can certainly guess our elected officials. We should hold them accountable for things, whether you agree or disagree. But what does that say about us is as consumers of the news that were more people are more worked up about this than what happened on New Year's Day. I think that's a reflection on all of us, all

of us, me, you, everybody. Relative to what's going on Minnesota, our good old friend who died a long time ago, common sense would come in early handy here, look, protest all you want, okay, And I'm watching live shots now on Fox and CNN of law enforcement and protesters clashing in Minnesota. It's a bunch of armed uniform military looking agents that are standing in front of people and trying to balk in the street somewhat here. I don't see,

you know, punches being thrown. There's some pepper spray. I think some chemical hrants going on for those across the line. But by and large it's a peaceful demonstration. People protesting with the f the police signs and all that. And guess what, bring your bullhorns, bring your signs, yell be mad, absolutely on thousand percent this and we should you know, enforcing the border was a mandate by voters that helps sweep Trump in no office. We need to know who's

coming here, we need to know why. I for a long time thought building a wall. It is kind of stupid unless it's around a major urban area to try and block them off. Sure, but in the middle of nowhere, a different story, But it doesn't mean you are against enforcing our borders. We need to know who's coming in this country. We need to separate the criminals from everyone else. That's a lot different than snatching people off the streets in the aisles of home depot. Based on how you look,

that for many is a bridge too far. And if that upsets you, we should be protesting that.

hear this. Countless cases where well they got shot because they're black. Right back to well Minnesota again, Rodney King and others because they're black. Well, okay, you know we've had the we had this shooting white woman, we had the shooting of figures for some of the lender, the lender guy, you know, Carl Linder's offspring who was shot. We had shootings in Boone County. We have all so you know the narrative about well it's because well it's

not because they're black. It's because they're doing something they shouldn't be doing. And it doesn't matter if you think you're right. Hell, it doesn't matter if a judge says you're completely right, that doesn't matter at that moment in time. And you may be right, but you fight that in court alive, with an attorney or someone representing you. You certainly don't when someone ann officer and a market officer says, hey, I got to talk to you. Stop what you're doing.

That is not the time to accelerate your vehicle. And here's the memo to progressives on this. The self absorption and the righteous indignation can get you killed. And it's not just progresses. If you think that way, that you can do whatever you want with impunity. And we see countless cases where people act the fool because they have I know my rights. You know, when when an officer's you disobey a lawful command and you're blocking the street, I'm not going to say, you get what's coming to you,

but you open the door for that to occur. You have a hand in this. You're not completely innocent. And do we live in an age where everyone thinks that they are their own entity, they're their own island. No one can touch me, no one can disrespect me, or regardless of what authority or the authority you don't you know you can. You can't do what you want to you gotta. I can disrespect you, but you can't disrespect me.

That's simply the culture in America today. Or you think you can do what you want with impunity, and you clearly you can. And if you're i know, a mega conservative for example, and you're not in your head going amen, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well guess what this also applied to Ashley Babbitt, didn't it?

it's pretty clear they have their weapons out. You smash through the window and you look through and say, hey, there's a guy with a gun pointing it at me. I'm going to jump through this window. What the hell do you think was gonna happen? So this isn't about conservative ideology progressive ideo. This is about damn common sense is what this is. When the man has a gun and he's uniformed and he says, hey, I need to talk to you, stop, that's the time to take your

foot off the gas. Protest all you want. There's a lot of things we should be protesting. There's this question about it. Things are off the rails. But the idea here is that, you know, now, people have already made their minds up based on five seconds of video, and that's where we are right now. We've completely lost any context or common sense whatsoever. Your thoughts A five point three seven four nine, seven thousand and eight The Big One on talkback iHeartRadio app also coming up at ten

oh seven this morning, will continue the topic. Dan Hills is here, of course, you know him as the longtime head of the sinci FOP, who is now the head of president of Frontline advise. They advise local jurisdictions on while things like this, for example, a lot of what we'll call what is kind of spin control, if you need call it that, and just advise them on how to handle things because if you're a small jurisdiction and you get jammed up with what's going on Minnesota, you

kind of need some guidance on that. That's what they do. Not to be labor that point, but this is a guy who is an expert in use of force, and I'm curious to know what his analysis is of what he saw in Minnesota. That's coming up at two ten of six in the meantime to Xenia and Jeff on the Scott Slung Show Morning, how are you and Scott?

And the cops aren't gonna hesitate because they don't know whether you might be some psychotic, they don't know what you might be a normal human being. But if you put yourself in that position, be ready for the consequences. And people just don't seem to think that, you know that they they are impunity, they have impunity, and they don't it doesn't matter what they do that they're they're gonna be okay with it.

the wrong. But you know, you need to be alive to fight for that too. You know. It's the thing that somehow I'm this, you know, I'm gonna I know this woman was thinking being the savior to the community. Okay, good. You can empathize with them for sure, and advocate for them, as I think she was. But you know, when when there's a simple command to stop and you don't do that, it doesn't mean anything at that point. Just stop what

you're doing. It's not a black, white male, female gay straight issue applies to everybody exactly.

the supervisor, I go do something like that. But the fact that that basically that they do that, you know, to somebody, has nothing to do with it. It basically had basically coming down here to help a friend. But they figure birds of a feather is what they're looking at. I understand that too. I understand that too. But you know, that's simple interest. I could have I could have gone nuts on him, but I didn't, you know, and got a hand.

if someone is standing you wouldn't do that. If a kid or maybe one of the people in the community were there who you're trying to help, were standing in front of you'd probably give them, hey, get out of the way thing. But instead decided to stay hit the gas. And now it's a fatal and it's you know, it's an ever evolving. So, but there's a there's a consistency here to this whole thing, and that is it's not

it doesn't matter what you look like. And that's what I hated about the whole narrative the first time we did this in Minnesota. It's about your actions, about what you're doing when it evolves a officer involved stop. And I'll ask Dan about this. Come up, Dan Hills. I think it bears okay. So if you're a I don't know, you're since a police offer you haml Kant, a sheriff's deputy, you're trained in tactics when it comes to traffic. These

are immigration agents, you know. Did they get the same level of a training as a beat cop and how to handle the situation like that? Because we talked about you look at it, go wow, that's kind of bad tactically that you're standing in front of a vehicle that's running. Okay, But were these guys have been trained for things like this? And I think that's something else that's missed here too in this effort to Villa and I, every single ICE agent that's out there and lined up is man, what

are you doing? Why are you doing this?

to you. You know, it's not like these guys, I think almost all of them, if not every one of them, Like you know, I just I want the paycheck and the job, and I don't make the policies. I go where I'm told. I mean, we all have jobs, we all report to someone. You go where you're kicked. That's true. Whether you're a radio talk show host, whether you work in a fifth third bank, whether you're I work at a grocery store, or whether you're an ice agent or

police officer. Their orders. You may have disagree with them, but you got to pair amount. It's kind of like in the back of the day when I'm obviously I was in a on for this, but you know, the stories about soldiers coming back from Vietnam and people attacking them. What they're just fronding commands. It's like you're a baby killer. You're I didn't sign up for this. You want to be mad, be mad at Kennedy, be mad at LBJ, be mad at Nixon. I'm just I'm just a pawn.

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You have conservatives, you have progressives, and they're entrenched to write. I mean, look, within seconds of the story breaking, and everyone in since in the air area is talking about this story more than what happened on New Year's Day with that eleven year old girl in the park, and that's a reflection on us.

think it's reflective our society that. I mean, we just had a story here where a woman had a Maga Girl license plate, Maga Girl license plates, and someone shot at her. You know, I think that's two ways. Is number one, is I wouldn't put anything political on my vehicle, on my Bristol vehicle, how vanity plates anything like that. People are crazy, but we're just so entrenched in political ideology and this is just another example of it. Hey, Bridge,

thanks for listening. I appreciate you. Have a great day. You thanks all the best. Got to get a news update and we'll continue the topic here with what's going on in Minnesota. Get some new eyes on it from Dan Hills, of course, long time CPD officer, Sergeant Dan formerly head of the FOP for a long time and now involved with a group of frontline advisor advice police agencies. I didn't get his eyes on this and see what he saw tactically, get an officer's response to what's going on.

We'll chop all this up with Dan right after a news update and that's happening in about three minutes here latest in Minnesota, but Cincinnati as well. We got you covered. Scott'slan continues afterwards on seven hundred WWT Cincinnati. Don't want to be in American It saw me back on seven hundred WLW. The big story today, as we've been talking about, of course, is the UH just a horrific story coming out of Minnesota today, ice agents shooting a thirty seven

year old single mom. I guess who intentionally blocked a group of officers And now to date there's been only seven officer involved shootings, two of them fatal, involving ice and citizens. So in this five second sequence we've all seen over and over that was filmed a fairly short

distance away. Here's someone yell hey, presumably an agent. Agent walks up, tries to open the driver's side door, driver accelerates, second agent standing near the front of the vehicle, and as she tries to accelerate to leave, albeit slowly because the roads are pretty icy, it looks like the deadly shot is fired through the driver's side window from the front so the suv and then speeds forwards because at that point, presumably miss Good is either critical or dead,

and the vehicle speeds for of strikes of park car short distance away, and that was not survivable. It's a horrible instance. We've seen this play out time and time again, and on that because he is he's seen it first hand. The use of force expert, former FOP president now President of Frontline Advisors is Dan Hills.

just no winners in this. You know, everyone's taking signes and this as I've been talking about this morning, and yet certainly the neighbors lose, the protesters lose, the cops lose, the ice agents lose, the country loses.

everything in the same lens that that I do. And you know, I do understand why people look at a shooting like that involving the vehicle and say why and and so for that part, I will say that, you know, I don't like to see the tactical approach of anybody being in front of a vehicle one that is you know,

obviously in drive. Right. With that said, though too, that your bad tech approach does not remove you from the right to defend when you defend yourself and defend yourself, as the courts have laid out, and that is about the perception at the time, the perception that you have at the time, and that a reasonable auser would do the same thing. It doesn't mean that every officer would do the same thing. It means that a reasonable auser would do the same thing.

I think the words that he used, and we since change that with front plate because I think he's right in that regard too. I mean, it seems cheap, as there's plenty of people with expensive cars, maybe at Kenwoock Country Club for example, where they don't have front plates

because it's a you know, eighty thousand dollars car. They're not the ones getting pulled over usually, But in that regard not to get down a rabbit hole or get out in the weeds on this thing, I look at it and go, yeah, you know you're reaching in a car to try and stop it, and he pulls off and Tensing it no choice but to shoot. And we've changed tactics since then. I guess the big question Dan would be street cops know that, but our ice agents trained as street.

was an accidental shooting. And I'm went over that. There's a fourth science experts out there and stuff that I'll talk about the timing with that, the one that would actually match this better.

tactical approaches. But again, just because your technical approach isn't the best, that doesn't stop you. As far as caseball is considered, from the right to defend yourself, and when you're holding a gun, and when you're already pointing a gun, your natural order of reflex almost is then to use that gun to defend yourself. And so again, the people who are going to be question this, they're going to say, well,

why didn't he move out of the way? And you know, could moving out of the way been a good answer? It could have been? Could, but could was his reflex is at that time something that would be reasonable? And I think that's what we're going to end up finding them. I hope to God it through a trial or whatever. I hope this political divide doesn't create an officer being charged for something that quite clearly was the self defense move. One that we can argue about when we can talk

about tactics about and all that stuff. But as far as could you ever see a jury beyond a reasonable doubt saying that this person that you know want to work that day with the intention of just killing somebody.

Vietnam War and they're spit on and cursed. They're you know, they're they're they are under orders, they're in her command to do that. Now, a lot we're drafted. You don't have a draft in this case with police officers. You do this voluntarily. But you know when you when you joined the force, however many years ago or whatever's you signed up for perhaps you know this, this wasn't seen as something that's going to happen. You never know what's going to happen tomorrow or the next minute on, and

so you're following commands. You're following orders. Now, whether they're lawful orders or not, it seems like a lawful command to go out whatever they're asking this woman to do. The other reasonable side of this thing is is looking at it going, well, you know, the idea that these cops are out there to just hammer down on citizens is silly in itself. No one's going to sign up for that, and certainly it's not going to pass muster.

But the problem is at the top. If you disagree with the policies and how they're being enforced, you have every right to protest that. But when when an armed agent tells you to stop what you're doing, roll your window down, obey a command, that's not the time to hit the accelerator.

He has a right to defend himself. So just to move beyond that for Minionian talk about the deeper politics that's going on here and how dangerous it is that you have a mayor and a governor, you know, wanting to jump out ahead of this without even any time, uh to to to really take a deep look at it, and want to call this this this I think they've even used the word murder or something of that sort.

And there they are setting the stage for something that you know is approaching, you know, almost civil ar type of of a reaction where you're you're splitting the right and the left up there to the point where we can't even have reasonable conversations.

but politicians on both sides actively push their agenda. We go to demerica, domestic terraces on the right, murders on the left, and and we just it just we don't even know the whole story. And as I pointed out, and this comes back to you as a longtime CPD officer, Dan Hills, what does it say about us here in Cincinnati. I can't speak for Minnesota or any other state, but Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana. What does it say about us here? The biggest story of the week so far is this.

It's exploding all over the city. People are debating and discussing it. Something that happened in a different time zone, is bigger than the issue. When we talk about justice for Quinary Reid, who was murdered on New Year's Day at a park, that story was like wow, everyone's like, yeah, okay, another shot, another eleven year old, this park, Okay, great, put the cameras up, debate at whatever. But this story is more gripping than that. What does that say about us?

Something is really really broken bad. When we can kind of shrug off the death of eleven year old, like you said, go and then now we're off worrying about something in some other state, or what we're actually worrying about is like you heading off to our right left camp, so everybody just once can't wait to head off into their own camp instead of having a discussion. And Sonny, you said it too. About this shooting. We don't know

all the facts. I could sit here and tell you, Look, I'm biased, I'm pro police, and I have a lot of experience in these type of cases, and I believe that the outre will be found just in what he did. But that doesn't mean that there isn't still more to know about this thing. Before you say anything for sure, before you decide whether you're would you just say that the two camps are murder or domestic care or whatever camp, I think we should all slow down a little bit.

I think we should flow down a lot and say, look, something awful happened. There was a loss of life. I think we're going to find that there was a lot of things that came up to this uh uh that that we need to look at too, these demonstrators, how we're reacting to these demonstrators, ices and all that stuff. Because we want to prevent loss of life, we all should agree on that and then then we can move

on from there. But if all we do is head off to those two camps like you talk about, screaming at each other, I'm really really worried about America and and and and to do that little bounce back like you said, I'm worried about I'm worried about our community that we still haven't even really come to griss of what just what just happened to?

move to the side. We've seen shootings. You mentioned one Columbus. That was another one where the woman's trying to back up out of a parking spot, or the person's backing up and officer shoots them. And I get that. I just wonder if there's a disconnect between, you know, not to make this all about tactics, but the kind of training that ice agents were getting relative to these stops.

You guys train all the time, and I just don't I don't know, and maybe you do or don't what level of train they receive when it comes to traffic stops like this, because essentially you've got immigration agents that are handling this. This was a traffic stop. I don't know what the level of training there is with those guys, and you know, I think that also clouds things too.

shooting of of Linder. Right, we had shootings that you know, you start doing in pointing weapon and whether it's a car or a gun at a and an armed officer, bad things are going to happen to you as well. They should. This was entirely preventable. But just roll the window down and talk to the agent. I don't understand the pulling away and why we're defending that.

that prevented this. Yes, I know we tend to look at the institutions, whether it's a police department or ice or whoever, and say how can they do things better? And we always should right, right, But but but these these these actors that are going out and doing these things, are are putting themselves at risk. And look, if you don't like the law, immigration laws. I believe in immigration laws.

I believe in borders in the country. If you don't believe in them, then vote for somebody that's you know, wants to change the immigration law or peacefully demonstrate in a way that is common sensical. Don't go out there and put your life on the line to make your statement, because it is a shame. Like I said, everything is is well also, Dan going about things much more peaceful.

It's just like, uh, you know, when when you overextend yourself in that capacity, going from immigration to in a lot of cases, what we're doing here, you know, it tends to polarize people and turn people against you. Would normally support you. But again, when an officer gives you a reasonable command, hey roll your window down. You're blocking the street. You can't block us from doing our jobs. You've got a problem right there, because that's your war.

officers as law enforcement officers. And again, they are enforcing the law. Maybe it's not the most popular, Maybe some people might not like the common sense of who they're approaching at a certain time or whatever. We can all talk about that, but you know, policemen needs help. They need to stand together as police officers, federal whatever, as long as as long as they're enforcing the law and doing it going about it in the legally correct ways,

Gateball approved ways that they should stand together. And this divide that's being put in between them, Yeah, this is really bad.

thanks for the insight and these these trying times. Indeed, hope the new year gets better from this point for it all the best of you to you too, sir, and the best of you and your family all the best, Yes, thank you. Let me get a news update in and more to follow. Here's the Scott's Loland Show seven hundred W. Wilderland me here on seven hundred W l w R Thursday morning segments with Sonja Shava Krimani Er Doc, one of the top doctors in the country, I'm told also

our fitness and health guide. Just kind of a little check up on this first segment of the new year. Welcome are you my friend?

And this study just came out, Actually it was out of Brown University, but it was a combination of a bunch of other studies about dry January and the positive effects that we're actually seeing. And it's really encouraging for the movement, not just for the month itself, but for the long term effects of actually just going cold turkey for a month.

What people find is by doing a month of dry January, feeling better, they're sleeping better, they're like having better social connections, and you know, they're losing weight. You know, there's a ton of effects to work this, and people realize if they reflect on it and curb their drinking. So maybe you know, you're doing two drinks a night, or two drinks a few times a night, and maybe it's down to two drinks once a week, which any cutdown is beneficial.

I do now. And it just took a couple of changes and now I'm like you, I'm drinking maybe one night a week. It's that and at that it would be like a drink or two max and h seeing that has has confirmed my bliss.

You know, no alcohol is you know, the best, but I think you know, a little whe or red wine something like that, it's probably pretty good for you. You know, you start chugging handles of Jack Daniels, you got problems.

is the reason for that. The other thing we see is that you don't get rem sleep when you drink alcohol, or you get very minimal rem sleep, So while you fall asleep, and you fall asleep quickly, you don't get that quality sleep that helps you restore, helps you forward memories and do all the stuff that happens during your dream state, which is essential for not just you know, happiness, but also helps So sleep is the main thing.

But you know, I think, like we're saying anything in moderation is pretty good. We're talking about the effects of that though, and what you know, going dry for an entire month is going to do for your body, sleep being one, what else.

something like that, it adds up quickly. And so people find that they lose about three to five pounds if they do drive January on average, And so that's a pretty significant thing, especially when you know we start the year and we all want to be healthier, et cetera. That would be a huge way to get there, is just limiting those empty calories that aren't doing anything for you. The other thing we see, uh, you know other things anyway, would be a drop in blood pressure that seemed kind

of across the board, uh, and then liver problems. So you know, it's interesting.

to it's hard to make change. And so if you've never tried, you know, improving your health before, I would recommend doing one thing now. This may be the thing for you, especially if if you're drinking, you know, three plus times a week. Just dropping that.

don't want to drink alcohol. You know, if you if you name it, Homemakers is one of them that just prides themselves on their mocktails. Sundry Advice does it too, but almost every restaurant is doing mocktails, and so there are other options. And then if you know, I've had the Athletic Brewing, which is an alcoholic beer I don't even like I PAS, and their non alcoholic i PA is amazing, And so you know, there's there's a ton

of options out there. The other thing is we have leaders in the industry of food and wine and drink that are you know, telling telling their alcohol story and talking about how they've achieved sobriety, Jose Salazar being one of them. And so you have leaders in our community that are speaking about the benefit of stopping alcohol intake.

And so that's that's leading into it too. And then again more and more people are doing it's now socially acceptable to not drink alcohol, which I don't think was the case you know twenty years ago. You know, you get made fun of or people would be like, are you pregnant? And even if you're a guy, you know, and now it's much more socially acceptable, and that's it's created a better, better society.

Where are you on fasting? Does it actually work? And what you should What should you do if you're contemplating.

that long term. And so like with anything, I say, do what makes you feel better that you can maintain forever, as opposed to going hard and really clunging yourself and maybe seeing some benefits. But then when it's done, like you talked about, when it's done in February or whenever you decide to stop that process, you don't rebound and go crazy and you know, eat everything under the sun.

So small changes are more important that you can sustain than one massive change that is just going to be a flash.

can't fast for thirty straight days. There's a reasonable amount of time you should you should subject your body to that. So and then gradually introduce reintroduce foods that there are maybe less inflammatory. So as you get older, that definitely is that when you're younger, but you're older, everything hurts.

if you will. Other stuff going on includes, of course the battle over healthcare too, and we recently had a government shutdown that illustrated the silliness, absurdity with poult that we tolerate in this country right now, certainly in America. You know a lot of people still come here for health care renowned for research and development, and there's a lot of vesture in that. So you know, certainly the system is broken. It's not completely broken or it can't

be fixed. But we're back to that critical issue of healthcare and getting people covered. On that is doctor Peter Cowie on the show this morning, How you been.

Because the tremendous amount of subsidy that's at stake here, you continue to subsidize things, it distorts what the costs really are, and it really it just glosses over a broken system them in that regard, doesn't it absolutely.

It's propping up a broken in defunct system, and something needs to be done because the future is not looking bright. And you're right about that in failure to treat what this really means for ordinary families as things continue the

way they are. The broad picture on this, though, doctor Cowie is Here's what I don't understand, right, is that we have a not a good system was is with Medicare and Medicaid and the Affordable Character and Obamacare and things are being popped up and subsidized and it's ugly and it doesn't work the other side of it, I don't see many ideas come out of the Republicans though, when it comes to a better solution for this other than well, you know, it's socialized medicine and we can't

have that. What's the solution.

You've heard the term medicare for all. That may be a little bit large in terms of how much that would cost and whether it could be implemented. But the truth of the matter is that until we get to the point that we all agree that this is not a luxury, this is a necessity that we need to provide affordable healthcare for all of our citizens. Until we grasp that concept, I'm afraid that the system is not going to get fixed.

use healthcare. We're talking about younger people who don't use healthcare as much as older people do. And we're not getting any better outcomes. Number one one cause of personal bankruptcy medical bills. That's no future for a that's still a recipe for future success. I should say.

You know, insurance companies and insurers they stand the most to gain by well what the democrats want. A lot of this money is going to go to UH. If you subsidize anything, what happens is you just it just costs you more. College is a great example. You know, we subsidize college. Everyone has to go to college free college money grants tuition on the thing, and college is raised it. Okay, we'll just going to charge more because more people have its more money and it's artificial till

you have to pay it. The same thing is true here, isn't it.

the matter is they don't. I don't know if you saw recently, Scott, that a number of companies, including Medicare as well, are now going to go to pre certification done by artificial intelligence.

come on the phone. And then when they deny something, you have to go into a complicated system of trying to appeal to appeal the decision, and you have to go up in the ladder to what they call a peer review and talk to somebody who may not even be in your specialty to make a decision about coverage. So the system is rotten. Okay, it's a rotten system.

our regulation of insurance companies and laws. What's it going to take to get these people off the dime and make them understand that we need to move forward and make the system better.

also a mental health component. Use a physician know that, and you know what about people who commit domestic violence acts? And well, we have HIPPA, but we can't disclose. And when you fill out your federal firearms form, you know you may have mental health issues, but you're not going to admit it, or maybe you don't know what you think the rest of the world's crazy and you're normal and you go, yeah, I'm perfectly fine. And then they go on a mass shooting. But there's none of that

in play here. You don't have that. But when you have both sides agreeing right that the healthcare system is broken needs to be fixed, there's no hey, there's an amendment that says you're not entitled to healthcare, or there's no opposition this. We all agree in the same thing, and yet we can't do anything to me. That's the most frustrating part about this.

eighty eight counties are pretty rural in Ohio. And I've seen firsthand clinics and hospitals closed because they just don't have the people coming in and can't afford the staffing and everything, all the compliance and everything else in order to operate a modern hospital. There's just it's not profitable. And I know a lot of people cringe at the states taking over health care, but I don't know, can this be? And we tell you, yeah, I look, I go,

all right, well, we know healthcare. We've seen hospitals clothes in rural areas. It's happening as we speak right now. It doesn't get to play simply because it's flyover country. People lose all their healthcare, they lose all hope. At that point, we're gonna have people eyeing of things that were easily fixable just weeks and months and years ago as opposed to to right now and at some point that it's going to come to a tipping point, because

you're right, these hospitals can't run profitable. But you look, listen to this can go oad a minute. If every man, woman, a child, we're spending like thirteen thousand dollars plus on average for our healthcare system. We were it's not that we're not spending money. Where's the money going?

ugly side of it, to be sure. But you know, it used to be a government be kind of like a referee in these things, and that's long since gone away with modern politics the way it is. He is doctor Peter Cowi. He's a cardiologist, public health expert. Failure to treat as the book and where things are headed here with our broken healthcare system that both Republicans and Democrats agree on, it's broken and has to change. There's

got to be a change age in company. He believes it's going to be more healthcare deserts, meaning rural hospital shutting down and people dying, uh, largely from trauma. I mean, you're telling me that people can literally bleed out because there's no physician or emergency room to treat them in a rural area. And we're talking about people who are

farmers a lot of agricultural areas. And as we take the information super Highway and put it more rural areas because of the technology, well we'll see people who have met in a motor vehicle accident or you know, cut themselves of the saw that wind up dying, is what you're saying, when just a few weeks ago they could go to the clinic and get sutured up. That's kind of and it's like an almost third world It sounds like, uh.

We have a severe shortage of obstetrical physicians in the United States, especially in.

way more money, and tell me, subsidize something. It becomes grossly more inefficient and really doesn't help those who would serve to help, because, let's face it, the insurance companies, the middle men, are the ones taking the money from the government here as the holdout continues on the other side, if we just go, well, you know what, we can't have socialized medicine. Well what's your alternative?

get sick, here's how much it costs. Pay it or get for cast drivic situations, Just get catastrophic insurance and pay that much Like you do your homeowners your auto insurance, your life insurance. Go to a system like that and get your employer the health all of the business providing healthcare. I think would solve the problem.

simplistic approach to payment. And I completely agree with your catastrophic insurance for those situations where things get a little out of control and you're very ill. But yeah, it's going to take people to wake up and have a little common sense about this, and hopefully the book and your radio program will get people.

any details. It's just him talking on yeah right when.

I find that's interesting. And you know how many properties they own?

down eleven and a half percent yesterday. The stocks from some of the other big names, Blackstone, Invitation Homes and American Homes for Rent. Now, American Homes for Rent has a very big presence in the Cincinnati market, especially in Mainville.

day to day, everything changes. But I find it's really I think it's very very fascinating because we always have to find a bad guy, and you look for the biggest, biggest guys or gals I suppose in the room, and you look at the corporations to blame for all of the drama and the misdeeds of whoever.

been saying we need more inventory. The other thing that a lot of the prognosticators who are looking at twenty twenty six, they're saying the interest rates still need to come down a little bit to make the market a little bit more balanced. And we have homes that are on the market. There are huge opportunities out there for people who want to buy a home. I think a lot of younger people don't really want to buy a home right now, and.

ban that from happening. What happens if we have another housing crash at some point in the future, and then who's going to come.

the entire neighborhood, the entire community. So I would say some institutional and some investors actually saved the day back in two thousand and eight and two thousand and nine when our economy was really having a difficult time and the whole real estate interest industry was having you know, it was crashed, It had totally crashed, but it was because we had too much inventory. The balance was way off. Right now, our balance we are in the process of

rebalancing the market. And by rebalancing the market is you know, we need a little bit more inventory guests. We need more buyers out there who are approved and able to purchase, and.

traded company? What if I don't know, you're a local person and you own I don't know, a couple hundred homes that you're and there's there's people in Cincinnata they're doing that. You know, we're not into that that rare air ourselves. We got as many as we can handle on our own because we're in the real estate business.

But I look at it going, Okay, well, what does that mean for the mom and pop people like us that have put sweat equity and all our savings into real estate properties and continue to parlay that into more properties to a certain point. What does that mean for someone like us or you know, the little guy I just you know instante here. Oh yeah, it's just the big guys a big well. Where do you draw that line?

prices and turn it around and reset the market. It's kind of like we see this ourselves because we own a couple town homes that are involved with hoa's and it's kind of interest because the hoa's generally made up of older residents and they don't like renters for whatever reason. And I could see, you know, some some sort of distrust there because they're transient, but they don't want to so they'll they'll ban you from renting properties in the future.

The grands father, then they'll do everything to try and drive you out of the neighborhood. If your own properties at rent, okay, great, we're only going to what happens when you have a recession. And okay, so instead of someone coming in and renting it and taking care of the property, now you have all these vacant properties next to you, your neighbors who are quote unquote owners, not renters, and they can no longer pay their mortgage and they default.

That's going to drive your property values down even more than the renters. Would you need that in those And I think it's very short sighted of a lot of people to go, we want no renters in Urha. Well, guess what when the market tanks, you're gonna wish you had renters.

So you may find more condos being vacant for longer periods of time, and if there again, I feel the worst property is one that is not lived in, and I would rather one hundred thousand percent have somebody who's living in it, whether they're renting it or owning it, than having a vacant home next to me, because honestly, it's just a call for trouble.

that entails, but good luck to you. I'll be home a little bit, okay, Right there you go, Love you gotta go. Got Willy on the way coming up next right afterday news update, the very latest in Minnesota. Of course, it's a big story today. The everything you need to know happens in about four minutes here on seven hundred W dobty.