Bill Cunningham, the Grant America. Well, welcome this Wednesday afternoon. The tries did coming up on Friday. It's a big news conference with Duke Tobin in the direction of the Bengals. But until then, Mayet Cook, you're a Fox News contributor and attorney, and you've done a lot of investigations in the state of Ohio, which is piggybacked on what's happening in Minnesota. The hearings are underway there and also in
the state of Maine. And I can only imagine the fraud that's present in the so called Blue Cities and Blue states when it comes to daycare fraud and autism fraud, and medicaid fraud, transportation fraud, foods and fraud. But maheck Cook, first of all, can you tell the American people what is happening? What is your investigation shown so far in the Columbus area and the great state of Ohio.
Well, thanks so much for having me.
I am looking both at home health care services and daycares. I have visited a building with about thirty four home healthcare services here in Columbus, Ohio, and was able to talk to one or two businesses. One was not able to provide much information about how home healthcare services work. So if you have an aging grandparent or a parent, she said she really didn't know how it worked.
And the second office did sit.
Me down and explain to me that I could go through a process with insurance, But for the most part, the lights were off, the doors were locked, nobody was available. This is my third visit there, and I'm just wondering how these businesses are operating given that they're getting state funding. Who are they How are they operating? How do you operate a business when you don't show up for three days? And unfortunately, the last day that I was there, I was encountered.
By three individuals.
That were of Somalian descent that cornered me and said that they would not be providing services, and I said that was fine, and then they continued to scream at me and try to intimidate me and say that I should not be asking these questions. That I am Indian and not white, but has nothing to do with the fact that anybody can walk through a door and ask simple questions. But I think they have a real problem.
They think for some reason they're going to scare me with the racist word that they can't because I'm not white. And this is what the whole community has continued to say, You're not white. This is not a white or black issue. This is a are you committing fraud or not?
Issue? And so that has.
Been insanely disturbing to me that you can't answer simple questions. And then on the daycare front, I mean, I'll be honest, we're not seeing any kids. We've maybe seen one facility with a few kids, but the kids were both referring to the owner or the individual talking to us as mom, which is fine. You can take care of your kids in a daycare. Many of them are run down, many of them are filthy. I've had three assaults of three
different daycares by just simply knocking you. Hear a click, they let you in, and then they're violently attacking you. Most of these daycares don't have children. There's only two that have allowed me to come in and ask basic questions, and only one of them has actually been able to give me an application for a child and tell me how much it costs. So when you ask questions about attendance, I also learned that you can basically forget to sign
in your child. According to the State of Ohio, we have the best system, but you can forget to sign in your child and they can retroactively sign in children.
So suddenly I have questions about attendance.
I mean, these are issues in our compliance and our audit system, and we should be asking questions. And the elephant in the room right now is yes, majority are Somalian owned.
This isn't targeted.
This is the community that is running these daycares and home healthcare centers, and that's what we're looking into.
Talk about the scam relative to home healthcare. I've seen all your videos, and one of the videos I saw looked as if these guys are about to assault you. They use the F bomb, use racial epithets, and they're Somalis, but nonetheless seem to work in Minnesota. You simply raise their racial flag and seeming like the Ellison and Waltz and Fry, the mayor, the attorney General of the governor
of Minnesota simply back off completely. In fact, Keith Ellison, I watch it so you don't have to on MS now and he was talking about, yes, there is some fraud, however it's being handled internally. There have been numerous convictions, dozens of convictions for fraud, with ninety five percent being of Somali origin. But how does the healthcare scandal work? And not just in Ohio, guess in every state? How does one sign up to care for an aging parent and have the government pay you?
Well, look, I think it's going to be different in every state, but Ohio, Pennsylvania, obviously, Minnesota, their standards are I would say lower. You are allowed as a child to take care of your aging parent or a grandparent. So the way that the alleged fraud is occurring right now in Ohio is I sign up to take care of my mother. I take her to a doctor. I ask that doctor to approve her for home health care because she is old and she has a lot of.
Aches and pains.
The providers pushed back and said, your mother doesn't qualify. Well, then I go and find another doctor who's willing to There's several doctors in town that have now been identified as.
Part of this alleged fraud. They'll rubber stamp it.
Many of them allegedly are getting a kickback because now that you've rubber stamped it, I'm making money Right between twelve hours. So let's say I need a lot of care for my mother twenty four hours, so I can sit at home and apparently take care of my mother for seventy five to ninety thousand dollars. Now I say my dad needs home health care, that's one hundred and eighty thousand.
Then I moved my husband's parents into my home.
I mean, all of this racks up for individuals that many of them don't need home health care services, and there's one individual, one provider that's basically pocketing the money, and many of them are allegedly getting kickbacks for helping. Some of these individuals are going door to door to recruit more individuals, and the services are not being provided because many of these people really don't need home healthcare services.
It's a massive scam. It needs to be looked into.
We need to revise the way that we're just handing out taxpair dollars. And my bigger issue with all of this is how do you come from another country to America The first thing you sign up for is welfare.
That's a red flag for me.
Well, it happened in Minnesota and Columbus is the second highest population of Somalis. Is this a Somali problem or is it a welfare problem? Because most of those who have gained the system so far have been Somalis, most not even here legally, most are not citizens. But is this a Somali problem or an American problem?
It's both.
It's both to sit and demonize, and I will not do this. I know people love to corner me on this. I think you would agree with me. I think immigrants value to our country. But what I have unfortunately seen from the Somali population, many of them have benefited off of a welfare system, and many of them, at least in Minnesota, based on indictments, there's alleged fraud. So there's a massive problem in the system, and there's a massive problem in the population.
And it's not only Somali. I said this many.
Weeks ago on Sean Hannedy's show, it's bootees, And look, President Trump just came out with the truth social thing. Boot needs are the number one recipients of welfare. So when you put blocks of people in the United States together who've never been asked to assimilate, who don't speak English well, and then somebody is teaching them how to gain the system, whether it's welfare and home healthcare or daycares.
That's how fraud occurs.
And then in the state of Ohio, we have to actually audit our audit system because there's loopholes. We need to get in a room with US attorneys and the DOJ to talk about all the problems with our legislature, all the problems with the Department of Youth Services, and come up with a plan, a better audit, a better checklist. The fact that people are saying in government there's nothing to see here as a red flag to me because they're not doing their job. They're just pushing paperwork back
and forth. Paperwork doesn't tell you if there's fraud. You actually have to use your.
Eyes and ears.
That's what I want from state officeholders today to actually take this seriously and to change the system.
Well, one other area of fraud, and Nick Shirley is doing great work. I can't imagine a twenty two year old YouTuber uncovering billions of dollars worth of fraud in Minnesota. He posted a video he said, in Minnesota, there's more than one thousand fraudulent medical transportation companies. In fact, one transportation company received four million dollars in one month for transporting patients to and from appointments when there was It's impossible when you do the math for this one company
to have done that. And is that another area ripe with fraud? To say, some patient has an appointment with a doctor who's on the take, you take them from your home to the doctor and doctor and back and do that repeatedly. Is that also ripe with fraud? The Medicaid transportation system with all these ambulances so to speak, that don't exist.
Yes, all of the anytime you have taxpayer dollars going out, it's not my money or your money, it's our collective money that is going in. And the state then is abusing the system by allowing for something like this to occur. We have to audit every welfare program. I have not
looked into medical transport. I am up to my ears between individuals that have come out as whistleblowers that are giving me evidence, but one hundred percent, I mean, this is a systematic issue with the American system of welfare, and so we have to look at ourselves too and say what did we do wrong and how do we fix it?
But we can't say it's the cost of doing business.
We actually have to roll up our sleep and do something different otherwise this is a definition of insanity.
To me.
You used the term cost of doing business. There was an interview that one of the PR directors for Governor Mike DeWine who said that some fraud is the cost of doing business. And when I saw that, I thought, are you kidding me? How's that a cost of doing business? And I guess, as in ohioan most of the other states are blue cities, blue states completely controlled by the Democratic Party, Ohio is the only state which is a
so called republican state having similar problems. Since you live here, are you particularly concerned that if the state government is saying, well, fraud is the cost of doing business, that's a problem.
It is. I don't accept the status quo.
And look, I believe every bureaucrat that tells me that they did the audits through paperwork. But my problem with the audit system is it's broken. When you go into a daycare and you see feces, you see bottles that haven't been cleaned, see there's no betting, crib blood stains on sheets, and then you allow them to operate on a conditional license and don't come back for three to five months. That's a red flag that means our system
is broken. The cost of fraud is exponential. And I have to ask any person listening today, when you get a thirty dollars charge on your whether it's Chase Bank or any bank you use, and it's not your charge, I guarantee you ninety percent of the audience called the bank to say this wasn't my charge. So imagine if
it's millions of dollars. You don't think the government has a duty to protect us because if they're rolling up their sleeves and saying our hands are clean, I have a huge issue with that because they're then complicit by giving our tax dollars and not protecting us.
May Cook.
I also spoke to the state office holders that I'll reference the auditor, the attorney general of the Governor's office, and they're saying this can't happen in Ohio in a broad fashion because we don't deal with enrollment. We deal with attendant and so that's the key hook they hang their hat on that there's not massive fraud because we have an attendance when you go to these so called daycare centers. How much attendance do you see?
Not much?
And here's here's the key to attendance today. When I asked, if I forget to enroll my child as they're walking through the door because I was running with their lunchbox, how do I change the attendance numbers? They said that every administrator can go back and change attendance numbers. They just have to use a phone number and they're able to do it. And by the way, most of these
compliance reports that I've read, the biggest issue is attendance. Well, if the biggest issue is attendance, are you paying them State of Ohio or are you not? And if you're allowing people to change attendance records, that's another red flag. So again there's loopholes and you can't just strictly stay based on attendance. We know that they're doing everything they should be doing. That's like a cover up of your audit system.
Why not ask the question why are people changing the numbers of enrollment if they've forgotten to check in their child, that sounds like a loophole to me. And secondly, if it purely is attendance, who's checking those records. Are you checking records at midnight? I don't know any state office holder who's work until midnight?
Do you no, not exactly?
I don't think so. And medicaid fraud is another thing ripe for the abuse and the Somalis. In a sense, individual Somalis that are here under temporary protective status and most of a lot of that's been pulled, are simply part of a system. They may be in their own minds, their think they came from a war ravaged country where most Somalis at home living garbage dumps, and they come here and all of a sudden, they may think themselves, this is like part of the deal, this is what
living in America is that I get paid. And so I like to think there's some innocence on the behalf of individuals Solly's, for example, because they don't know what they're doing. Do you have some empathy for individuals who think this is the way we operate?
One hundred percent.
I sat down with the Somalian business owner that didn't want to be on camera because she didn't.
Have the best English.
I thought she was perfectly fine, who shared that she immigrated went to the Ohio State university, graduated. One of her kids is going to be a doctor, the other one is still working. She owns a daycare today, she owns and operates it. She's ethical and above board. She walked through the entire process of the check in and how kids it's all based on attendance. But again, I
can have empathy but still ask questions. And the one thing that raised a red flag to me is she said that every parent that comes in with their child checks in. I saw a parent walk in and they didn't check in their child. Now is she going to go back and audit that and add a child checked in? I mean, this is where there's a problem with the state system. They think it's so strong. I don't I challenge that. And I'd like to have them sit down with the US Attorney's office and go through all of
the issues that we have with their audit process. It's not just me claiming issues. I bet you other attorneys and auditors and tax experts could sit there and school them on the issues. But yes, I have empathy for any immigrant community that's trying to achieve the American dream. I don't have empathy for somebody who is committing fraud assault or intimidating anybody out there, including me.
All I know a couple more quick inquiries. One is that I'm told by state officials about fifty percent of the Medicaid and daycare and autism and food stamps are paid by the state and about fifty percent paid by the Feds. The Feds are not the investigator, so to speak. Each state should have their own investigation. I would also note that the permanent representative of Somalia to the United Nations is linked to a home healthcare agency in Cincinnati,
Ohio that was prosecuted for Medicaid fraud. His name is Akbard had Osman. And according to Health and Human Services that the actual ambassador from Somalia who as at the United Nations is linked to a fraud in Cincinnati, Ohio. And I would ask, well, I live here. Why isn't that a bigger story? When the UN ambassador is part of the fraud from Somalia, isn't that a big story?
Yes, he's blocked.
I mean, everybody's scared of being called racists today and we have to stop. I don't care what anybody looks like, I don't care what anybody sounds like. If you're committing fraud. It's wrong, and every new station should be asking questions. The fact that they're not racist red flags. I mean, I went to the Somalian Education Resource Center, let me tell you, four different offices, and I finally found the forty two million dollar door with.
A group of friends and there was nobody there.
Lights out, And we have questions about what they did with the fourteen million dollars they received in the state of Ohio in twenty twenty five. Nobody's answering our questions. But at some point we have to get reporters and real journalists who want the truth to ask these questions and stop fearing the loudest critics because the loudest critics definitely have something to hide, and race baiting is no longer acceptable.
I mean, look at what Chambondi did. She didn't care what anybody looked like. She is indicting in Minnesota. We have to do the same thing here.
If they're fraud, deal with a conduct and not color. There's TSA agents in Minneapolis who testified that they had suitcases filled with American cash one hundred dollars bills going in Somalia. We also have circumstances where in Minnesota, the daycare providers who are Somalis gave to the state Democratic Party in Minnesota twenty four million dollars. Not too many daycare providers that are legitimate are spending off that kind of money. It's a protection racket operated by the Democratic
Party to keep them in power. MAYA Cook, we have to run What is your website? How to those who want to be whistleblowers get a hold of you.
Anybody can email me at cookfo Ohio at gmail dot com. It's Cook with an E. Please include evidence and information. We're getting a lot of tips, and my handle on Twitter is just at the heck cook or Instagram. That's where I've done a lot of the posting. And I appreciate everybody who is trusting me. I'm never going to share their name with.
The state and be protective. I continue to work with them to get to the bottom of this.
May I Cook, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. You're a great American and don't let the cries the false claims of racism stop reality. May I Cook, thank you very much, Thank you, thank you. Let's continue with more news coming up. You're home of the Beangals and the Reds. News Radio seven hundred WLW by Billy Cunningham, The Great American and once again, the oil is at the forefront of what's happening with many foreign policy of perspectives.
And then there's a group and many groups out there in America that are working hard to make sure that
we don't have access to cheap energy. The American Energy Institute has a report and a letter sent to the congressional leaders that raise national security and energy policy concerns about a dark money network funded activist trying to obstruct us energy development to make sure that you pay five dollars a gallon at the gas at the tank at when you fill up, and let's face it, in Ohio, we're spending about two dollars and thirty nine cents a gallon,
which only because of the policies that allow for free flow of energy. Joan, you and I now is Jason Isaac. He's the CEO of the American Energy Institute. And Jason Isaac,
welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. But first of all, Jason, I see all the seizure of these so called dark tankers off Venezuela and now that I guess the Trumpster's now in charge of Venezuela, and I watched a lot of the commentaries of the radical leftists tell us that's got nothing to do with US energy policy, and they tell us that the US government only buys oil to put in this strategic petroleum reserve, and that essentially the
oil companies themselves are the ones that are investing in oil production. So as far as what's happening now in Venezuela with the not the kidnapping, but the arrest of Maduro, what impact on American energy prices, everything happening in Venezuela actually have on us.
Yeah, you should see a little bit more, even more stability and lowering of energy prices because we're cutting out a huge transportation factor of importing that heavy crude oil from the Middle East. Now we're going to be getting it from Venezuela that owes American businesses billions of dollars.
International courts have repeatedly ruled that the Maduro regime and the Chavez regime before him, took billions of dollars of assets, lost profits, lost revenue from America oil companies that had risked their bottom lines to go in there and produce oil in Venezuela. There's also the critical minerals, the rail earth elements that China has been looking to seize, and they're threatening the market of the supply of those, which
we need for our military weapons, our technology, our computers. AI. China has a stranglehold on that and they've been threatening withholding it. And you look, eight out of ten barrels from Venezuela goes to China. They're buying it on the black market. And for the first time ever, in the last year, China has started to export energy. It's never happened before. They've expanded their refining capacity built in the
backbone of cheap electricity from coal. It's not big and beautiful like it is here in the United States, but regardless, it's cheap. They've expanded their refining capacity. They're exporting diesel, jet fuel, and home heating oil to the global market, and they're doing it buying black market oil, violating sanctions. So what we should see is leveling off and returning to market a lot of the oil that's in the
market right now. So this is this is a great move for American consumers and really the global consumer as well.
And Jason Isaac it appears that compensate the oil companies that were ripped off by billions of dollars, that twenty five to fifty million barrels of oil. I don't know if that's the day, a week, or a month are going to come out of Venezuela now to pay off those debts. And that's heavy crude. Explain the differential many of us don't know. I just go up to Amico and I put my put the nozzle in my car, my Chevy, and away I go, and I like the prices. But why is Venezuelan crude oil not as good as
maybe American energy production out of the premium base. What's the differential between those kinds of crude oil?
Well, if you look at we were importing oil for decades going back to the seventies, and so our refinings, our refineries were built to to process and refine heavy crude oil imported from the Middle East and other places around the globe and turn that into diesel, gasoline, jet fuel, home heating, oil, propane, plastics, a myriad of things that we depend on our daily lives. And so about eighty percent of the refining in the Gulf Coast is used
to that heavy crude oil. Now, some of them started to over the last two decades started to retrofit their operations so they could handle this lighter suite. But a lot of the lighter, sweet crude out of the Permium Basin is exported onto the global market, and then we in turn import heavy crude to refine that into those products. So now we're going to be seeing a lot of that Venezuelan crude coming north just into the Gulf of
America and being refined into good products. Here we're fined more responsible than anywhere else in the planet, might I add, So this will be really good at giving us a supply that's much closer than what we've previously gotten a supply from.
Plus American jobs. Do you see the Landsman? Do you see what's happening on some of the some of the special series, Billy, Bob Thorton, all that kind of stuff.
Is that real?
The Landman?
Is that?
Do you watch that at all?
I do, And I have boys that have worked in the oil field the Permium basin, and I've got a lot of my members that are there as well. It's a little sensational life. I'll just say that much.
I love that stuffy and it reminds me of you know, Montana. It reminds me what's happening there. And so you do is.
That a little bit real?
It is?
I mean, you get out of the oil field and I've been on frack sites, I've been on drilling rigs, I've been out of production facilities, gathering facilities, and look, there are men out there that are working really hard. They come home from work really dirty. They're working twelve hour shifts for two weeks on then they get a week off. In some cases some are doing fourteen on
fourteen off. But there is no doubt about it. These men are working hard to provide affordable and reliable American energy produced more responsible than anywhere else in the planet.
And you look at some of the people that are investing in these oil and gas companies, whether it's the majors or the smaller independence companies that I represent, it's the pensions around the country, These teachers and firefighters and first responders and other government employees that have entrusted, therefore one K dollars or their pension dollars to the management
of companies that are then investing it. And so when Venezuela steals billions of dollars from these oil companies, they're actually stealing it from teachers, from firefighters, those first responders, people in the military that are dependent on on a pension, people that have invested in four one case. So it's going to be great to repatriate some of those assets back into our country.
Oh, Yellowstone Landman Billy Bob Thornton doesn't get much better than that. I like to think guys like that are out there maybe have hoods on their heads getting beaten by the drug cartel. Billy Bob is wonderful. Let's get back to reality. Are as. The group's well funded environmental groups fund that I might add by the Sierra Club and Greenpeace, Friends of the Earth, etc. Union of Concerned Scientists. Talk about who's funding them. Why don't they want American
energy independence? Why don't they want us to pay two dollars and fifty cents a gallon? They want us to pay five dollars a gallon? Explain what these groups are all about.
Well, there's these networks like Arabella Advisors and the Tides Foundation and these tax exempt groups that get billions of dollars, and a lot of that comes from foreign money. Just recently reported over four billion dollars from Chinese Communist Party aligned organizations directing money into our institutions of higher education
here in the US. They're directing billions in the nonprofits into think tanks, trying to out have policy outcomes that benefit China, the benefit Russia, the benefit Iran, that are a complete detriment to the United States. So when you have groups like the Union of Concerned Scientists, this is an organization that refused to look at the origins of COVID because they didn't receive a request from the governments
to do it. But when the Trump administration comes out and says we're going to move to rescind the Endangerment Finding, this Obama Area era deep state finding that was put in place in two thousand and nine that says that CO two A gas is necessary for life on Earth, is harmful to the environment and human health, couldn't be further from the truth. The Trump administration is moving to
rescind it. The Union of Concerned Sciences immediately came out issuing strong opinions made up some fake studies submitted comment, just as Lete Pauling, you know who else submitted comment and opposition to rescinding the endangerment finding in the greenhouse gas reporting program. The Chinese Communist Party directly submitted comment through the federal government. That's resulted in a policy proposal already being filed. We uncover that broke that as well.
You look at Greenpeace. I think green Peace is getting millions of dollars from around the world, but they got this judgment against them in North Dakota, over six hundred million dollar judgment because they damaged some things there on a pipeline for energy transfer trying to do these protests. They were coordinating these terrorist activities. That was reduced to a little over three hundred million. But what does the green Peace do. They use the courts, and that's where
all these groups are coordinated. They're using courts here in the US, and green Peace is using the EU now to sue an American based company, energy Transfer, that doesn't even have operations in Europe. So they're trying to use these courts to their advantage. They've been funding and training and painting judges around the United States with false climate alarmist materials, so it is a really an interwoven web,
and it's really deceitful to the American economic prosperity. And lastly, I'll just say you look at how quick the coordination was after Maduro, this narco Paris has he got to head who you put on him? The groups within hours had already started putting posters together. The printing posters. You can see the exact same designs used around the country. This is the climate alarmist and the leftist narrative. They go out and they pay these actors to go out
and protest. I saw some of these protests. It's interesting it's old, white, wealthy people that show up at these protests while the Venezuelans are screaming for freedom out of the streets in Venezuela and also around the globe. But they're very coordinated in their efforts. It's the same thing with the climate alarmist anti.
Energy movement and Jason Isaac with the American Energy Institute. It simply is paid for astro turf protesters with nothing better to do with their time than to hold up pre printed posters, acting as if they're independent when they're not. If you would take out of course I'm not going to find myself in California anytime soon. Well, what approximately is the cost for a gallon of gasoline in California. In the Midwest is between two thirty five and two
seventy five a gallon? What is it in California. Yeah, you're nearing five dollars a gallon.
You look in California and dates like Washington, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, those are four of the highest five states in the US for fuel taxes. So really the national gallon average is closer to two dollars a gallon, but when you add in these states with really high fuel taxes and penalties on certain types of fuel, it's much higher. It matters where you live, and more importantly, it matters who
you elect. In places like California are attacking American affordable and reliable energy to the detriment of the people live in California.
And lastly, I tell the story and when my mother was a girl, they had coal delivered through the basement in a shoot. Then they pick up the coal, put it into the furnace and away you go. And then once a week they would have to clean the coal dust out of the inside of the house. That accumulated on tables and chairs on the floor. Had to clean the coal dust out of the home. By the way, my mother lived to be almost ninety years old. That's another story, but explain how clean coal is a different
beast than it was decades ago. In fact, clean coal is a wonderful way of heating homes at a low cost because we have hundreds of years supply what technologically is happening now that makes whether it's natural gas, oil, or coal, a much better alternative than being cold in the winter and warm in the summer. What's happening technologically, no.
Abilly, It's been amazing. Over the last fifty years, the United States has become a world leader in clean air. We've reduced pollution the six criteria pollutants that in certain concentrations are said to impact human health. We've produced that nearly eighty percent over the last five decades. And it's because of pollution control technology. I've set testified in front of Congress multiple times, and I've said, of all the technology the Chinese steal from us, it'd be nice I
would utilize our pollution control technology. But that's about effective as their missile defense systems In Venezuela. They don't use it. It's not effective in China, and so there's actually cold us dropping in southern California. Over sixty percent of the pollution in Southern California is Asian air pollution because they don't use pollution control technology like we do here in the United States, and that technology is primarily bag houses
in scrubbers. They're like giant filters that go on power plants in industry to capture the pollutants. During the COVID lockdowns, we took half the cars off the road to the United States because our government shut us down, locked us in our homes, closed businesses. People are losing their lives. They are losing their livelihoods. And what happened to the air quality in this country. Nothing. It got worse in some cities. It was slightly improved in others, but it
was negligible. There's no meaningful improvement in air quality, and you take half the cars off the road. Our air story is one that's not told. It's unfortunate. Over sixty percent of the population doesn't know about it. We're also number one in access to clean and safe drinking water. That's something seven billion people on the planet would love to experience access to clean and safe drinking water. That's seven eighths of the global population would love to have
we take for granted here in the United States. It's all powered by our economic prosperity, our environmental leadership, which is made possible only possible with access to affordable and reliable energy. That's natural gas, that's coal, that's oil, and that's nuclear.
And it's not windmills, it's not solar panels. So you're saying a chunk of the air pollution in California is coming from China, who refuses to use our technology.
Correct, that's absolutely right. And as the California increases regulations, the business just move over to China because it's the lower cost to do business there. They move over to China, they move over across the border into Mexico, and so we're actually exporting jobs and we're importing the pollution.
Well, Karen Bess is an idiot, and she's very popular, and I'm certain Gavin Newsom, if he wants to be continue to run as the governor, he can do that. He's popular, I think. But imagine if California's energy policies was put in the lap of Gavin Newsom as the president in twenty twenty eight, what America would look like then? We would not recognize, more people would be on government help, There'd be more welfare fraud, We'd have lesser, fewer cars,
less economic development, less technological advances. And that's what's on the ballot, including this November and in twenty twenty eight. Well we have to run in Jason isiac. What is your website if.
Any American Energyinstitute dot com?
You're a great American.
Jason.
God bless you and God bless America. And thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Thank you, Jason, God bless you, Billy, thanks for having me on. Well, let's continue with more. Well, the truth will set us free. Do you want to live in a society with six and seven dollars a gallon gasoline? Or what's happening now? The environment we live in now is the result of technology. Keep it going, Bill Cunningham, seven hundred WLW by Bill Cunningham, The Great.
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So we're after two o'clock today. We have Governor Mike DeWine on to discuss his endorsement of a Ake Ramaswami. There's been some speculation there was some angst between the governor and Ramaswami. So we're going to get into that after two o'clock today. As you know, Amy Acton, Doctor Amy Acton is the Democratic nominee. You're in Ohio is uh was one of the devotees of Governor Mike DeWine during the COVID disaster, and so we're going to ferret
out from Governor Mike DeWine. Wise he's endorsing vi Ake Ramaswami, and of course Uh not endorsing doctor Amy Acton, who was in charge of all the lockdowns in the state of Ohio. But until then, the great John Lott l Ott John Lott worked for years in the Trump administry in the first term. He's an expert researcher when it comes to guns and violence, more guns, less crime, and author He's done many things, great degrees from many of
the great universities. And I noticed in the New York Post a few days back there was a big headline new data reveals the horrific truth about illegal immigrant crime and John Lott. Welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show, and first of all John. What I hear from the radical left, from CNN, MS Now and so many others is that immigrant crime immigrants commit fewer crimes than American citizens, and therefore they should be welcome because there's such a benefit.
We've had on guests before, May Cook and many others Ken Blackwell et cetera. Talking about the amount of illegal activities involving welfare, whether it's daycare, autism, medicaid, foods and fraud, home health fraud. It's massive. But one thing that is a predicate of inviting into our country more citizens from
third world country, this is the fact they don't commit crime. Now, can you tell the American people what are the facts about aliens, illegal aliens or immigrants committing crime relative to native born Americans. Give us a full report, right, thanks, Happy New Year.
Look, the type of data looking at immigrants as a whole mixes together illegal and legal immigrants. Legal immigrants do tend to commit crime at very low rates. Unfortunately, illegal immigrants tend to commit crime at extremely high rates compared to native born Americans. And we can see this with some recent data that just came out for the state of New York.
New York.
ICE put out indicated that they had seven and thirteen detainers on those who are currently incarcerated in New York State prisons in jails. You know, you're talking about individuals. One hundred and forty eight were there for homicides, you had them there for child rape, hundreds, you know, seven hundred for assaults and so on. And the thing is, if you compare that to their share of the overall prison and jail populations in the state, which is about
fifty thousand people total there, that's fourteen percent. And you can compare that then to the share of the population that illegals reportedly have in New York. The highest estimate from Pew comes from Pew when they say it's about four percent. So you compare that fourteen percent to the four percent that they make up in the general population, they're way over represented. And the problem is that four percent is very clearly an underestimate.
For many reasons.
One reason is New York as a sanctuary state, is not assisting ICE in identifying who might be an illegal who's incarcerated in the state.
There Also, as you may know, ICE will go and.
Stay at different courthouses for when illegals are either convicted or whether they're charged with the crimes and pick them up and deport them right at that point, so they never make it in to the prison or jail populations in the state. CBS had a report that just over a two month period.
This last year, just in New York.
City alone, there were four hundred and sixty of those illegal aliens who were picked up at the courthouse and deported at that stage. So, you know, four hundred and sixty just from two months, just from one place in the state. You know that you can see that that
seven one hundred could be a big underestimate. And there are other reasons we can go into too, but it's very clear, and this doesn't even take into account the almost seven thousand illegal aliens who had been convicted and served time in prison and jails who were released this last year.
Also, I look at these numbers according to the Homeland Security one hundred and forty eight homicides, seven hundred and seventeen assaults, one hundred and thirty four burglaries, one hundred and six robberies, two hundred and thirty six dangerous drug offenses, one hundred and fifty two weapons offenses, two hundred and
sixty sexual predatory offenses. And you often talk about there's a differential between crimes committed on one hand and arrest and conviction on the other, that the arrest and conviction is a small number of the crimes committed. So explain that to the American people.
Right, Well, we know, in general, only about forty percent of violent crimes and only about thirty percent of property crimes are reported to police.
And there are lots of reasons for that.
Whether or not people think that the.
People are going to be caught and punished has a significant role in that. But this is particularly important when you're talking about crimes by illegals, and the reason is that criminals tend to commit crimes against people who are similar to them. You know, ninety percent of blacks are murdered by other blacks. Hispanics is about eighty percent are
murdered by other Hispanics, for example. And if illegals tend to commit crimes against other illegals, which is pretty clearly the case, not exclusively, but if they disproportionately tend to do that, then what happens is you're going to underrepresent their share of reported crimes because illegals might be unwilling to go and report crimes to the police, no.
Question about it, because they don't want to be identified as victims and may be deported. So the seven and fourteen number is a small number compared to the crimes committed. And I also would point out that you were involved in the Uvalde situation as far as talking about the police and what they did and didn't do. One of the officers is on trial in Uvalde, Texas for not responding appropriately to that deranged criminal that went into a classroom and killed a bunch of students, and there were
no armed teachers. There's no one around in that situation, which feeds into many things you've said, which means more guns, less crime. And so one thing that's happened in my home state of Ohio is that there are local sheriffs who have trained personnel, like in Butler County where Richard K. Jones, who are teachers vice principals principles to discreetly carry weapons to make it less likely someone's going to pick that
particular school to commit an offense. Another thing that weighs into this is sanctuary status of cities and states right now, because if you're a sanctuary city, and you won't share information like Minnesota, which is having terrible problems. And I'm glad that Governor Tim Waltz is not going to run for reelection. I fear that citizens of Minnesota would probably re elect him, and that there are many county jails
and city jails that don't share information. So instead of arresting someone with a federal criminal warrant in prison, which is protecting of both parties, they let them go and then once they get into the community, then there has to be an entire raid to arrest someone with a warrant. So what are the dangers like in the blue cities and blue states when they don't participate in the federal function of law enforcement? And the act is if the
Feds or shall I say, an invading force. In fact, this incident with a ice of officials were tried to be rammed by a woman in a white pickup truck and she was shot and as a consequence, it creates havoc and turmoil. And so how much easier is it if you have red cities, red states that will tell the Feds this person is here, we will honor your detainer, pick them up that's safer for everyone, correct, Yeah, of course.
Look, I mean I think one of the reasons why we've seen this huge record dropped and murders in the United States, it looks like we're going to be on track for the lowest murder rate ever recorded in US history this past year. It has to do with many things. You know, obviously, the FBI has doubled the number of arrests this last year compared to what they were in twenty twenty four, but also what Trump has been doing with regard to deporting criminal illegal aliens.
You know, not only do you go and you.
Take the criminals off the street there, but even the ones that you haven't caught, they don't want to get deported. And so what they do is they want to keep off of police radar. And how do you keep off of police radar. You stop committing or commit fewer crimes, so you're not going to be as much of a target for the police to go after. And so, you know, it's not a coincidence that we've seen what looks like, at least for the first nine months of the year,
a twenty percent drop in murders. And my guess is when the data comes out for all the crimes. It's coming September for last year, it's going to show a big drop in violent crimes across the board. You just to get people an idea of what we're talking about in terms of percentages. You know, we just had during the Biden administration, the largest percentage increase in violent crime over for a year period time that's ever been recorded. It went up by fifty nine percent. There's no time
that's even remotely close to that. It's like a little bit more than half or twice what it was previously. And so you know, here, I think you're going to see violent crime reverse that trend that occurred.
And with murders.
In twenty twenty four, we had about five murders per one hundred thousand people.
The highest or the.
Lowest that we'd previously had was four point five per one hundred thousand. But we're on track right now to have about four or slightly less than four per hundred thousand. That's a huge that's a huge difference from one of was the lowest that we'd ever previously recorded.
And you point out in your story in the New York Post a few days ago, the Biden administration admitted the nine percent of the seven point four million non detained illegal immigrants at ittality already had criminal records. And you also point out in your story of the cost we're worried about the cost of fraud somalis when it comes to daycare or medicaid or food stamps or home health. What are the cost just in one city or one state in New York about housing illegals who commit crime?
And let's face it, the majority of people brought in by the Biden administration I contend illegally for those four years. We're young, poorly educated, unattached males who are the formula for more crime being committed. But what are the costs in New York City and New York State to the taxpayers that are born indirectly by all of us when you start detaining thousands and thousands of illegal aliens shouldn't be here in the first place. How much money does it cost?
That costs a lot. Look, we can't get an exact figure because we don't know how many of these individuals that Ice issued detainers on were in the prison system versus the jail system. Those two systems have different costs of incarcerating people. But if you the prison system costs are less, and if you assume that all of the illegals who are incarcerated are incarcerated in the prison system,
you're talking about a billion dollars a year. You know, that's a billion dollars a year the State of New York could save if they let Ice take those individuals and deport them. But you know, you mentioned the data that finally came out before the election in twenty twenty four showing that nine percent of the so called non detained individuals who were at least in the country had criminal records.
The problem is that's.
Clearly a huge underestimate. The reason is is because many of those illegals came from countries like Venezuela, for example, that refuse to provide information on the criminal back grounds of those individuals. So the Biden administration just put them down. As you know, we don't know whether they had criminal backgrounds, and we know Venezuela, for example, in other countries released people from prisons in jails in order to have them
come to the United States. They were not exactly people that they wanted to go and have to spend their own money on keeping in prison, So you know, there are multiple reasons for you know, the thing is, these non detained individuals were almost exclusively individuals who voluntarily turned themselves into the border. Those are not the ones that you should be most concerned about. You know, we had about two point one million so called guideways that came
into the United States during the Biden administration. These are people that we saw coming across the border but we didn't catch. And then we have untold millions that we never even saw come across the border. And the reason is that the Buying administration had pulled seventy six percent of the border agents off of guarding the border and instead we're using them.
To go and process illegals.
And also about thirty percent of the passive monitoring equipment, the cameras and other things were broken during the Buying administration and they were not fixing them. So between pulling agents off the border and having broken equipment over large parts of the border that weren't even you know, monitoring people coming across, we have no idea how many more millions, And those are the ones that you should be most
concerned about. There's a reason why they didn't turn themselves in at the border and get you know, the the prepaid credit cards, and get housing and get food and get you know, transportation to wherever in the country they wanted to go.
Well, I want to put a sharper pont in something you say in the story in the New York Post. It's hardly surprising. The violent crime surged by a record fifty nine percent during Joe Biden's four years in office, the largest percentage increase ever over any four year period in American history. At the same time, the United States
experience and then president influx of illegal aliens. It's almost as if one intends the logical consequences of one's behavior, which means Joe Biden, etc. Wanted to flood the country with illegals. Get them incorporated into societies largely all over the country. Give them day care benefits, autism benefits, medical benefits, food stamp benefits, home health care benefits. Get them registered
to vote as quickly as possible. Minnesota has a system where a sponsor can vouch for eight other people who are voting without an ID and that's how Democrats stayed in power and in Minnesota in one year, the so called daycare providers gave to the Democrats twenty three million dollars in political donations. I don't know too many daycare providers throwing off that kind of money. It was the protection racket that's finally going to be broken. We got
to run John Lott Crimeresearch dot Org. All the doubt is there crimeresearch dot Org. And once again, John Lott, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And the truth will set us all free. John Lot, thank you very much.
Thank you for being there.
Bill, God bless you. Let's continue with more. One other great reason to support Donald Trump is what John Lott just said. Bill Cunningham seven hundreds WLW.
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say Willie. We lead off with the sixteen and oh Miami RedHawks beating Western Michigan last night eighty seven seventy six, the first team in the nation with that record and is a school record twenty fourth straight win at Malett Hall. And on the other side, West Virginia rallies late to beat the Bearcats sixty two to sixty in Morgantown. Bearcats up fifty seven to fifty two with under five to go, you see just three points the rest of the way.
Mountaineers go on a ten oh run and get the win. Overall, the Bearcats are eight seven to zero and two now into Big twelve under mister Wes Miller, the Bearcatcher. He is three and fifty when when trailing with five minutes remaining in a game, Well, I.
Say that again, six percent, three fifty. Yep, that's not good segment, that's not good.
As you said, Well, he has Zavi's back. In action to night at Marquette six thirty here on seven hundred WLW. Missouri will take on Kentucky at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty. Let's see Bengals update brought to you my good spirits winding to Baco on Party Town thirteen convenient locations in northern Kentucky. The Cleveland Browns have requested an interview with Bengals offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher in regarding their head coaching vacancy.
What about that segment.
I guess they want to talk to him, and Bengals can say yeay or nay, but they got a lot of I mean, I think I think if I was Dan Pitcher, I'd stay here with Joe Burrow story instead of going to the you know what hole of Cleveland with the Browns where they've had seventeen thousand different quarterbacks in like six months.
If I'm Dan Pitcher, who sounds like a baseball but nonetheless, if I'm Dan Pitcher and I want to coach an offense, I'm not sure I'm going to Cleveland, And no, I'm not going there.
You want to go from Joe Burrow to Shader Sanders. No, No, No, Red's Update. Get the latest on the Reds tonight. The Hot Stove League gets six O five here on seven hundred WLW get the latest tonight. Willie Tommy Thrall gets married this weekend in Saint Lucia, really, and they'll have all the latest there on that. And then also, I don't know if you missed it yesterday, but the cowboy named Ohio sportscaster of the Year deserves it, no question. So we try to get him on, but he's en
route to Saint Lucia. I don't know where he thinks, man, I'm not sure. I think he knows where that is the Caribbean somewhere. Soccer FC Cincinnati makes it official by signing Cincinnati native Kyle Smith. He's a graduate of LaSalle, the home of the Lancers, and an MLS veteran. Also, former Winton Woods soccer star Taylor White has signed a two year deal with Racing Louisville Football Club in the National Women's Soccer League.
What else is going on here? Let's see?
How about former Bengal wide receiver hospitalized with severe burn.
I was just about to mention that, yes, Jordan Shipley, Yes, I hurt badly and his farm and I guess ranch in Texas, and they said he's burned like thirty percent of his body. So we just thoughts in prayers for him. And then former Bengals quarterback and Heisman Trophy winner. Carson Palmer is the twenty twenty five Max Preps National High School Football Coach of the Year. He led his team, He led his team to state title in California.
Carson Palmer might come back to the Bengals to be the head football coach. Would Mike Brown accept him back?
What do you think?
No, no, no, I don't think so. And how about the Ravens parting ways with John Harball?
Well, I've seen stories on the national media about John Harball versus Zach Shuler, Zach Taylor and who should have got fired? Who shouldn't have got fired? And shall we say John Harball is going to be a very prized commodity for maybe the New York Giants. What about that?
Well, apparently, I guess.
I guess.
Right after his firing, in about fifteen minutes, he got seven teams calling him. And he's in Miami today. But they already have a head coach because they could gass Mike McDaniel and put John Harball in Miami. You don't know, I don't know where he's going.
Well, who did a better job this year? Taylor or Harball.
Well, Harball went eight and nine because they I think they lost like six to seven in a row because of you know, Lamar Jackson won healthy. Of course, the Bengals weren't healthy either. With Joe Burrow out, Bengals won six and eleven.
And John Harbaugh spent how many years that you see Bearcats right as a defensive backfield coach. Everything in the world segment is relatable to Cincinnati. You know what I'm saying. Everything happening, it's right here, Harrorball.
And one of the one of the candidates now by the Ravens job as former defensive assistant of the Ravens in twenty seventeen and eighteen is a Chargers defensive coordinator, Jesse Minter, who went to Mount Saint Joe can a son the son of Rick Minner.
Well, I've done some research on everything's connected. The Ravens one of the best teams in the AFC in the last eighteen years. Right, John Harbaugh went one ninety three and one twenty four, won a Super Bowl, only had three losing seasons in eighteen and what to continue, would have gone to the playoffs except for that missed field goal by number thirty three, who should be cut somewhat time.
That was the only field goal he missed in the year, the only one he had made he missed, right, not good?
No, not good.
So we'll see what happens with Harball. But if he wants to But he's sixty three years old, he's getting old segment. By the time you're in your mid sixties, you should stop working anyway, would you agree.
I think that social security is in and he's probably headed to the Pro Football Hall of Fame or maybe a TV gig.
Well, I don't know if he's loquacious like Chris Collin's Worth and Rocky Boyman. Well, let's face it, he's one of the most successful coaches of the twenty fourth century.
And I think they've only had three. Like Pittsburgh is what had like four head coaches in their in their entire existence. I think the going back to the Colts, they've only had three head coaches over the last upteen years.
Oh about the Bengals were about the same. I mean we went through went through Marvelo Marvin. He was here about fourteen years. He took the Ravens to the Super Bowl. Defensively that team in two thousand was with all due respect to the nineteen eighty five Chicago Bears, that team was the greatest defensive team ever and they won one
Super Bowl one and Harball did the same thing. And is not good enough for Piscotti, who's the owner of the Ravens, he wants to do better and might you might recall Mike Brown from the first thirty years as the general manager, mikey Boy Brown won a total of zero playoff games. And the first thirty years that's not good. Segment, that's not good.
You're correct, that's not good.
And then then the other factor is you talk about what's happening at UC right now. I mean, I think Wes Miller's basketball, which one's in worst shape?
Well, flip a coin.
I don't know. But at least Scott Sounderfield went to a playoff, went to a Bowl game. But Wes Miller, if he didn't make it in the Big Show this year is like, according to many, it's over with And that's what Joe Frederick tells me he's done. But on the other hand, that the tough part of the UC Barcott schedule is coming up. They've already played the easy.
Part, right I think they've got Iowa State and a few other ones upcoming here and what woa not good will he? So I don't know what to tell you. But other than that, that's about That's about it. And uh, you know, so we'll see what happens. U See plays up against U c F on the road this Sunday, so we'll see if they can come back. And you know, hopefully Xavier can right the ship tonight against Marquette after dropping a couple of games, and we'll see what happens.
So that's about it.
So I don't know what to tell you. Yeah, give me out of the stott will he in honor of a beautiful day here in a trice eight, we leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
At some point, the foolishness has got to stop.
A segment of things go Well, Mike DeWine is supposed to call in about two oh five to day to talk about his endorsement of a Veke Ramaswami over doctor Amy Acton.
Well, what about David Pepper joining Amy Acton? What's up with that?
I say, just add Pepper. That's all That's all you can do, is just add Pepper. That's what she did well, and then they got no chance to win. I don't think, but I never know.
Yeah, you never know.
Yeh, all right, we'll see what happens.
Down the road. But uh, you know, Amy Acton was a person, shall we say that that was endorsed and loved by Mike DeWine. You might recall back in the beginning of the pandemic in March in April of twenty twenty, the two of them hold held daily news conferences that we carried live, right, And so I think Doc Jeremie Acton, you know, she was a favorite of Mike Dwine, not so much anymore. And after all, Mike DeWine is a Republican, and God bless the Republicans. So I think after two
of five today, we'll see what happens with him. So I supposed to call an he's having a speech right now in Cleveland. So seg will continue with more. Let's continue with more scheduling Mike Dwine about two of five today, all on news radio seven hundred WW. Then I'm pretty sure you may be aware that a woman in Minneapolis was shot and killed by ice agents about an hour ago after allegedly using her car to ram and kill
ICE agents. This will be weaponized by the media right now as an excuse to not enforce federal law in many blue cities and blue states. In fact, the so called mayor of Minneapolis, a clown named David Frye, is marching around you in the F bomb at a news conference broadcasted live all over the country, using the F
word to describe ICE. The Department of Homeland Security said in a statement issued about an hour ago that rioters began blocking ICE officials when one of the riders allegedly attempted to weaponize her vehicle to hit law enforcement officials, and what they described as an active domestic terrorism fearing for his life in the lives of his fellow police officers and the safety of the public, fired defensive shots. According to a federal government he used his training and
saved his own life and that of fellow officers. The alleged perpetrator was hit and is deceased now according to others. And this is all going to be on video, and the state has not released its video, but the Feds have great video looking forward to it being released. There was previous video being shot that seemed to indicate a snowy,
icy environment. Several dozen so called protesters standing on an icy road in front of in front of ICE officials trying to make arrest of criminals in Minneapolis, and a member of the ICE, of which is Immigration and Customs enforcement at the scene said a driver of vehicle was shot as she tried to run down police officers doing
their job. And right now the Democratic Party is on the side for the legal aliens, to those who are chiseling the system for personal benefit and TRIPA McLaughlin to Fox News the incident was a direct consequence of constant attacks and demon is eight of our police officers by sanctuary politicians who fuel and encourage random assaults on police officers and ICE officials have suffered at fourteen increase in
assaults against them eight thousand increase in death threats. So much like historically Democrats who kept the slaves, who fought a war to keep the slaves, who after a civil war made sure that African Americans living in the South to not have civil rights, and then for years but together the ku Klux Klan in the nineteen fifties and sixties refused to allow federal law to be enforced in cities in the South, requiring Presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy and
Johnson just sent in federal officials because Democrats not that the federal law to apply in their jurisdiction. In reality, it does. And I would hope that these ice officials are safe in the conduction of their duties. And I hope at some point the Democratic Party becomes to its census and recognize the federal law has got to apply in every city, in every county, in every state in
the company we continue with. We've scheduled Governor Mike Wine in about seven or eight minutes that show them the reds Bangles and the Bearcats. There's Radio seven hundred WL Cincinnati. After putting him to the American a few hours ago, there was a note that Governor Mike DeWine is going
to endorse Vike Ramaswami. That should not be great shocked because both are Republicans, but there's also some indication earlier in the year, that end of last year that he wasn't going to make an endorsement yet, Jona, you and I now is Governor Mike DeWine and Governor DeWine welcome again to the Bill Cunningham show, and Governor, can you announce now why you're endorsing Viveke Ramaswami now and didn't do it a few weeks ago.
Well, I could give you the answer that this is a little humor here this afternoon, I could give you the answer that Governor Rose gave when he endorsed Reagan, and the reporters and well, governor, Governor, why why today? And he said, well, yesterday would have been too soon and tomorrow would be too late. I'm not sure that was a good answer for him, But the press didn't do much. It's going to shook their heads and walked away, I guess. So, look, I think that you know, he.
Made the first.
The first big decision a president makes, or presidential nominee makes. The first big decision that a governor makes, is picking the running mate, and in this case, he picked Rob McCully, who was the Senate president from northwest Ohio, someone very well respected. And so I think that, you know, that was a very very good decision. I wanted to praise that and congratulate him, and it just seemed, you know, I talked to Dubake yesterday, I talked to him today
we've been we have been talking. Uh, and so I'm you know, happy to endorse him.
Uh.
I think he'll be a good governor. This is you know, will be a significant race.
Uh.
You know, we're electing a governor and uh, it's a big, a big job in a big, big position. But I think he really hit a home run today with with Rob McCully. Good good choice, very very very good choice. And you know, Bill, we have to continue to grow a hile and we have to continue to bring companies in from California and New York. And I think the Dake has the ability to do that. I think he has the inclination to do that. I think he has the instinct to do it, knows how to do it.
So continued economic growth for Ohio, it's just so very very important.
You know, Governor. When this came out a few weeks ago, that you were equivocating a bit, there was some thought among some conservatives that you might lean toward doctor Amy acting because you two worked together March April, May June July of twenty twenty. In fact, you filled a very important one hour time spot between one and two o'clock with me with doctor Amy acting at your side. Do you think doctor Amy Acting is in a sense not qualified to be the governor.
I'm not going to go into that.
I mean, you know, I worked I worked with her. I think she did a good job. I know some people criticized, you know, what was done during that period of time. And I've pointed out that I'm the governor. So if people got a complaintation, complaint, you know, they complaints with me. Bok always stopped with the governor. It's not the governor's members of the cabinet. But look, I think she did a good job in that position. I enjoyed working with her. Uh, But we're now talking about
a very different position. We're talking about being governor for the whole state, twelve million people. You know, Bill, after having done this for seven years, I can tell you that every day, Uh, there is something happening that the governor has to deal with that's important and that maybe was unexpected. You know, We've had a lot of unexpected things since I've been governor. Every governor faces that you focus on so many different things if you think about it.
You know, we have seventy six state parks, we have you know, forty five thousand people who are in prison, so we're running a big state prison system. Economic development is so very important. Education probably the most important thing of all is something that you know, we put a big, big emphasis on frand with a Vali partner Imagination Library Library,
getting free books to kids. We're now over I think four hundred and fourteen thousand kids every month get a free book, getting kids ready for kindergarten, the science of reading, which we are spreading around the state in every one of our schools now. It's really the best way to
teach kids how to read. So all these things, you know, there's just a lot going on every every single day, and it's just important to have, you know, a leader and someone who not just is a leader, but someone who can deal with all the all the different things that the governor has to deal with.
And Governor de one I had on a couple of hours ago may I Cook, who's doing her own investigation about daycare and autism fraud, and medicaid fraud in Ohio and food stamp fraud, home health fraud. And there was a report that one of your spokesmen said that the cost of some fraud is the cost of doing business. Do you have a sense that Ohio under your leadership, is doing a much better job than appears to be in Minnesota. Are you on top of the fraud? Some
talk about enrollment versus attendance. What do you say to the critics who say that Ohio may have massive fraud in the Somali community, or in the Mareitanian community, or in the Haitian community. What would you say about that?
Well, I had a whole press conference the other day about this bill. As you know, I wanted to lay out for people to say, Ohio exactly where we were. I know some people are saying, look, you have Haite or you have smallions in Minnesota, You've got to Ohio and particularly the Plumbas area. Therefore, if you have h fraud in Minnesota, you must have fraud in Ohio. I'm just not sure that's the way we are to look at this. I'm not sure if it's not factual.
Uh, we have.
I think a very good system in place. It doesn't mean there is some fraud that gets biased, that does happen. No fraud is acceptable. We have no tolerance for fraud at all. I don't have the statistics in front of me, but I gave out the other day. But you know, we have pulled the plug on a number of daycare centers, some run by some audients, some run by not some audions. You know, if we see that there is fraud there, if we see, for example, that they don't have records,
they're always supposed to keep their records. Uh, We've pulled some just because they didn't have their records. So we're going to continue continue.
To do that.
We do things differently than some states do. For example, we pay and maybe they'd set the stage if I could. We're about one hundred thousand children who are in daycare in the state of Ohio where their parents probably couldn't afford it, but you know, they want to work. We want them to work, want the parents to work, and so we subsidized to some extent that daycare for that
particular child. So it's one hundred thousand kids at one time are getting some subsidy, their favors are getting some subsidy to help them pay for that child child care. We have about fifty two hundred fifty two hundred daycare centers in the state that I have kids in there who the state is paying part of the tuition basically, we have a lot more daycare centers now, but fifty two hundred. So it's fifty two hundred, you know that we are looking at Last year we did ten thousand,
ten thousand punt announced inspections. But in addition to that, you know, we if we see something wrong or paperwork, you know, we go in.
Uh.
We also encourage I would say this to any any of your listeners. I know you, you're clear, you know from Cincinnati, clear almost the flebo people listening to you. But if anyone has suspicion that daycare center or any other kind of fraud that's going on any place uh involved in the Stable High we don't want to hear about it. And so when we get these these tips, I'll just call them tips. When we get them in, we check them all out. Some of them amount to nothing,
but some of them have amounted to something. And as a result of those tips from citizens in the Stable HIO, we've been able to take action and to stop uh, you know, the fraud that was going on, stop money going out when it should not have been going out. So we encourage that bill.
Do you say loud and proud there is not massive fraud in the state of Ohio when it comes to subsidized daycare or medicaid, and which transportation companies make up trips from the home to a care center or maybe home health, and which somebody can claim. You know, I'm caring for my mom or dad twenty four hours a day. I make seventy eighty thousand dollars a year living with my mom, and I get paid for all that. The allegations I know you're aware of this out of Minnesota
are absurd. And there's been seventy eight indictments ninety five percent of Somali's there's been seventy four convictions in Ohio. That does happen here too. But are you saying, as our governor, there is not massive fraud supporting the immigrant communities in Ohio similar to what's happening in Minnesota.
Well, I don't know exactly what's happening in Minnesota. You just recounted it, you know, so I can't see exactly what's happening there. All I know is the same thing we all know is what's been reported. What I can tell you is, UH, you know that we're vigil about about fraud. Uh, is there some fraud that occurs. Yeah, you've you've got fifty two hundred daycare centers. Uh. You know, is there some sometimes uh fraud there, Yeah, but it's not it's not anything massive. I mean we do things
like you know, we only count. We only let them count and get paid for when that child actually shows up.
Uh.
The buid administration wanted us to switch over and we refuse to do it. They wanted us to switch over to uh paying buy an enrollment, and we said, no, We're not gonna pay just because someone who will what happens and they don't, you know, the kid doesn't show up uh for a week, two weeks three, We're not gonna pay. We're not gonna pay for that. Uh. So we you know, we do we do that differently as
I say you do the unannounced uh visitations. Uh when we when we go in and we're not only just woking for fraud, we're also looking, frankly, to make sure those daycare centers are good and to make sure that you know, they're taking care of kids properly. I mean, we you know, we are concerned about that.
You know, one of the.
Things that we've seen in the Columbus area. We've seen some people who've shown up at these daycare centers and filmed themselves and then stood out there and said, well, I'm shocked they won't let me into the daycare center. And these are just people. We have no businesses a daycare center. And you know, if your child is in the daycare center, you wouldn't want that daycare center open to anybody he just just to walk in. You can't do that in the school today, and you shouldn't be
able to do that in the daycare centers. So these daycare centers shouldn't be opening up and like just someone who wants to film it and say they want to want to go in. That's not how we run daycare centers in the state of Ohio or probably a place out we've got to protected protect you to do in case.
We proceed govin are you more sensitive to this than you otherwise might have been because of what's happening in Minnesota? Do you notice when one of your representatives said, well, you know, fraud's are cost of doing business, it kind of didn't sound like that quote.
Look, look I don't I don't like that quote. That's not my quote. Uh, you know, well, we want to be honest. Just fraud occur. I can tell you it's occurred because we've caught it, so I know it's scarred.
You know.
And do we catch everything? Well, probably not everything. Uh, there's just a lot of a lot of going on, but we're vigilant. Is important.
Uh.
We owe this to the taxpayers to be the ever vigilant about this. This is taxpayers dollars that we're dealing with.
Lastly, viveg Ramaswami's floating a trial balloon of maybe getting rid of all the real estate taxes in fact, uh and maybe he also said get rid of state income tax. So those are the main drivers of funding government. And I can't imagine what the sales tax would be if you got rid of real estate taxes and got rid of income taxes? Are those aspirational goals? Practically could Ohioans get rid of the real estate tax and or the state income tax and have government function?
Well, I don't see how you do both of those known, I don't. I mean I think that is you know, Bill, in every budget I've signed for budgets, we have cut the state income tax. So we were very very comparative today with other states. We didn't used to be, but we certainly, we certainly are today. Real estate taxes. I just signed a series of bills that will make some significant reforms and I think bring some meaningful relief to
the tax payers of the state of Ohio. It's a problem, as you and I have discussed, when a couple that's say they're seventy five years and they've lived in this house for years, they've paid off their mortgage, the kids are groom and they wake up one day and in the mail there's a bill that shows that their real
estate taxes is going up thirty five forty percent. That's not right, and that's you know, that's what's pausing some of the people who want to put this on the ballot to completely do the way with the real estate tax I don't think you know, the people behind that initiative. I don't think that makes any sense. I don't think you can do that. Can you have reform?
Yes?
And I think we, you know, were starting to achieve that kind of reform.
All right, Governor, thanks for setting the records trade in those regards, and I have on guests now and then to say things like the massive fraud. There's a sense because you had which I think was a meritorious event, you and your wife had a Haitian orphanage that somehow
your bend over backwards to assist those other entities. How would you address the fact that the kindness you showed for twenty years in Haiti is kind of weaponized against you to say as if he might agree with some of this fraud going on.
Well, well, look what we have done in Haiti is working with father Tom Hagen, who runs the school down there. He's got five thousand kids in school. His kids wouldn't be going to school any other way but for Father Tom. And you know we we were help them away with him.
Uh.
And that's just something we do as individuals. It's not something I do as governor. It's something you do is as individuals. So it doesn't doesn't change my attitude. I don't think about anything in the in the United States. I mean, you know, we're gonna be visuals for any time we see fraud. We're going to be focused on on Ohio and focused on this country.
All right, Governor, thank you very much. I want to get a quick comment by David Pepper, selected by Amy Acton to be the lieutenant governor. He's in Ohio, and I know David Pepper, He's run for many offices unsuccessfully. What's your thoughts about him being the lieutenant governor? Or really be the lieutenant governor with Amy Acton.
Well, I saw that announcement today, so you know again, you know, I simply simply go back. I think that what Prevate did today dredge that first first big decision. I think in Bob mcpellay made a good decision as far as what the Democrats are doing. I left the Democrats were about that.
Hi, Governor, thanks for coming on. I called you on the sly because I wanted to get to may A cook On and make look in Columbus there's disasters happening all over the place. And she was almost physically assaulted by a couple of Somalis who went after her, and I said, down nine to one one get the cops there. But I just have a sense that between you, the attorney General, the auditor and others, that there may be some fraud in the Columbus, which is a blue city.
But I always said Ohio is a red state that we don't function the way California functions, and the way that Minnesota functions because the governor spent years as the prosecutor, spent years as the attorney general, and Mike the Wine doesn't have a corrupt bone in his body, and so I'd be shocked if had the same level. But are there some mistakes. Absolutely, But uh, thanks for coming on and setting the record straight. We'll do it all right.
Talking with you, We'll do it.
We'll talk about the reps next time.
There you go.
Rets, we only got about five weeks. What advice would you give to Mike Brown of the Bengals to tell Mike Brown to do what?
Well, let's let's uh, I'm yeah, I don't know. It's uh. We got a great quarterback, we've got great receivers and uh, you know, there's a lot of good players on that team. But there's some things that have to be done, just like things have to be done to Reds. So you know, and those of us who are Reds fans.
Y, Yeah, well, at least the rest made the playoffs. At least they got to the playoffs. We'll see what happens. But Governor Mike Dwine, thank you very much. And uh, I reached out to Vivek Ramaswami. He's going to come on Monday to talk about uh, the income tax, the property tax and all that stuff. We'll see what happens. But Governor Mike Dwaine, thanks for coming on the Bill Cunning m Show. Once again. Thank you Mike, Thank you, Governor,
thank you. You see. Now let's continue with more news next. You're home of the Bengals and Reds and the Bearcats. News Radio seven hundred WLW.
You know, I've had this feeling in my gud of like I'm holding Ohio in my arms and.
Unlike single handedly like Deacon virus, stay.
Out, Hello, Hello, Hello, Yet I'm broadcasting like Rocket. We just got on Governor Mike Dwine your reaction to the arms being folded around the state of Ohio, and he's endorsing not Amy Acton, who was his running mate, and all those news conferences. Now he's with a aake rama swampy. I love saying that. Yeah, Rock is on.
Yes, I'm back, I'm here.
I'm back. All right, Rock, give me your reaction to the governor uh endorsing to make promise for me.
They seem to have their differences earlier, but I think the Wine is smart enough to know a winner when he sees one. He knows he's at least gonna win the primary hands down. Who win that by eighty percent? Will he win the general? I think so, but we shall see. I did find it curious though, he said there's no corruption with the day care facilities or transportation facilities correction.
Ohio, in Ohio, in Ohio, but the Minnesota. He said, he's not paying much attention to Minnesota. He's got enough problems here. The ice officials in Minneapolis have their own difficult You're not kidding, and I had on at some point the foolishness has got to stop im. And he says in Ohio, if we find them, we prosecute, we turn off the money. In Minnesota, they encourage him to continue and make donations to the Democrat them.
Well, I know you know, and I know you've had her on.
Ma Hate Cook is visited some places around Ohio, and it seems people are not too fired up about her being there taking a look under the hood.
David Pepper, what about Pepper?
How about Dave? How about this? David Pepper is a good friend of segment. Dennison now reacted, it's just add pepper.
Little added little pepper to That's all you need.
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with thirteen convenient locations in northern Kentucky. Cleveland Browns have requested an interview with Bengals offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher regarding their head coaching vacancy. Now rock you super Bowl winner, NFL veteran y Dan Pitcher, Joe Burrow, Dan Pitcher, shavere standers or the seventy five thousand other guys that are going to be quarterbacks in Cleveland? What do you do?
I would if I were advising Dan Pitcher and I was were his agent, I would say, don't go near that franchise was a pole unless you you got to go in with a stud quarterback. Any job you want to take, and they don't have one, no matter what, Haslam says. I would advise him to stay away from that organization.
John Harball out in Baltimore.
Action does does Stefansy go to Baltimore go inner division?
Lead them? They could do worse? Like I was a two time NFL.
Coach of the Year, right, good point.
How does Baltimore look at the performance of John Harball over the last eighteen years He's won sixty percent of his games, but in the playoffs twelve of the eighteen times ring How does uh Buziati at the owner of the Ravens, book at that guy and say, you know what we got? We got to get rid of him.
So here's what I've read today.
And who knows, but I think John Harball goes in and says, look, what are we going to do about Lamar Jackson? Like he was fantastic, but he really wasn't the same guy this year? What is the future plans? And there might have been some arguments about that because the owner what was his name, Steve Biscotti, is probably like, I mean this, this guy's like the biggest thing in Baltimore. We're not moving on from Lamar Jackson? What are you
talking about? And you know, Harball is like, look, I was like eight and four in the playoffs without Lamar Jackson, and I'm I think three and five with him. So are we going to talk about I don't know if that's true or not, but that's just kind of some of the things I'm reading.
He's maybe questioning that.
And they said, the only person that is guaranteed to stay here is Lamar Jackson and not you boom See, you wouldn't want to be.
Well, compare to John Harbaugh does Taylor and make that comparison who got fired or who didn't.
It's it's tough.
I mean, I mean, Baltimore is a very very very well run franchise. So I guess they have their reasons for things, and they always seem to do things the right way and seem to be, you know, one foot ahead of everybody else. But I think we'll find out more as things come out on that.
Please continue well the college basketball Tonight, the Xavier Musketeers are in Milwaukee to take on Marquette, probably in a key Big East matchup at six thirty here on seven hundred WLW. Missouri and Kentucky at seven on ESPN fifteen thirty. Indiana up against Maryland, of course, Last night, the Miami RedHawks went to sixteen and oh while beating Western Michigan, but West Virginia rally late to beat the Bearcats in Morgantown sixty two to sixty.
I don't care about the noise, Dan, I don't care. I don't care what people think. I only care about my team and I care about my program. And you know what, it's almost common cool. We'll get a break. We just got to stay together and stay brilliant. It's us against the whole world. We know that we're gonna get a break. We're gonna keep going. Yeah.
Not good, not good, not good.
West Miller could be gone.
Please continue.
Let's see college football. Georgia Southern transfer quarterback J C. French is joining the bear Cats.
So I have called J. C.
French led games, I want to say, four or five times in the past. I've had Georgia Southern and he has a lot of experience and there's some things he does well. But at this point, I'm not impressed with that signing. I'll just say that.
What about Notre Dame losing that half back?
Welcome?
I mean, but Notre Dame log lost the star half back?
Yeah, money, it came home, which is interesting because you know Jeremiah Love is going in the draft, so you think there'd be a vacancy there. But look, maybe it's not opportunity. He can play and have a great career. I mean, the Bearcats certainly need a need a running back. They lost their top two guys.
I would say, what does UC Bearcats have? The Notre Dame doesn't. How come a player like that wants to ignore South Bend and come home to Cincinnati. Is there something wrong maybe with Marcus Freeman. It's something right with Scott I.
Don't think so, because Marcus Freeman's name gets brought up with every NFL job, which is and he's not even gonna go to the NFL, but his name is still brought up.
So there's my comment on that.
Uh.
Well, college football though, Miami and Old Miss tomorrow night in the Fiesta Bowl, and of course Indiana and Oregon Battle of the uh which well is it?
Oh? What? Uh? None matter?
In Atlanta, Kyle Schwarver is going to be the honorary captain for the Indiana Hoosiers Friday at the Peach Bowl.
So I called a couple of years ago, I had JMU when they had a head coach named Kurt Signetti and.
Yeah, yeah, it was it was yeah, Yeah.
I feel Willie that some sometimes in life people just just got it right. I mean, you know, there's great coaches out there, and then there's Kurt Signetti that can with with no five stars and you know, bringing players over from.
JMU and look, and they got good players.
It's not to say they don't, you know, nobody wins without good players, but just an unbelievable job. I just feel like he's one of those, like on the level of Saban, that he just knows football better than anybody else, just does.
Who's the see not hire him? The Bearcats could have had Signetti as their coach, and my brother John Cunningham said, no, he won with Scott Soaderfield. Was that a mistake?
Rock? I think?
I mean, as much as like Scott Saderfield, I would have to imagine, uh, passing on Kurt Signetti that they would redo that if they could, you think, so, yeah, I'm certain about that.
And who's the guy, uh, speaking of Indiana, who's the Dallas Mavericks owner that's on the shark tank? Yeah, what's the big guy Mark?
What's his name?
Willie uh Uh.
It's on the tip of my tongue, not Mark Levin, Mark.
Uh Cuban, Indiana.
He's made another considerable contribution to the n I L Bank bank account to the Indiana.
So do you think there's any there's it's a coincidence that Indiana's all of a sudden winning, No, it's not.
Is it?
Is there a coincidence that the SEC is now kind of getting their brains beat in a little bit like in all these Bowl games, because now everyone else has has the money and has more money, getting a little moreried. It's it's you have to be at a place that has that is well healed. You have to be at a place that has a Mark Cuban or a uh you know, Phil Knight out of Oregon. You have to have those kind of people because money drives the ship.
If somebody had told you that the Hoosiers this year was going to beat Ohio State, win the Big Ten, they were going to beat Oregon, and now they're in the Final four, you would not have put a dollar on that rock. Somehow, this signetic character and their heisman quarterback are doing things with magical dusts. I can't imagine them winning. Are they going to beat the Hurricanes too? Is that possible?
And wouldn't bet against the The guys found a way and they got the right quarterback, which is all the biggest thing you gotta do is get the right quarterback, and those is a real deal.
Great kid too, great kid.
Well.
I mean, it's unbelievable that Indiana had the second worst record in the history of football Division one all time, and now they're marching. If they go to the national title, that would be more than incredible. And the other thing is Miami almost stuck in because the to be did not want Notre Dame. They did not want Notre Dame, so they put Miami in. Would Notre Dame be doing what Miami the Hurricanes you're doing.
I think so, and certainly would have been played better than Alabama. I don't think you can.
That's for sure.
Deny that one.
Yeah, and in the end has already been Oregon one.
Notre Dame should have got in over Alabama. I think that I would would I said that before and now it's I'm even more certain about that.
Lastly, I'm glad you brought that up. Why's the SPC failing magnificently? They're not doing well at all. You know, the blue Bloods aren't doing well. Uh SEC and Notre Dame, perhaps the greatest college football program of all time, not doing well. And then you have like Old Miss they're doing well.
They lost two games by a combined three points. One was a muff extra point. I mean, that's how razor thing we're talking here.
They were denied. They were denied. They weren't even in the top twelve. They wouldn't want Notre Dame. Now you have ACC and Old Miss is not the blue blo just Georgia, Alabama and LSU, and you got an all missed in and they don't have coaches. The OC went there, came back, and he went to LSU, came back. Who knows what's going to happen there. I look from Miami to play Indiana and for all the marbles a week from Monday night, who wins between the Hoosiers and the Hurricanes.
We gonna pick the Hoosiers, me too, Indiana all the way with Ted McKay, team of destiny, do the ray and the knee, and Notre Dame wants the best team in Indiana football wise, is Indiana and not Notre Dame, Am I right or wrong about that?
Seg?
Give me out of stuge report, please Rock in honor of the first full first team Stooge Report of the year. Yes, we leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
Here.
I'll answer any questions you guys want.
Oh, okay, coach, get ready Miller time. I don't know if it's going to be a Miller time much longer. He better start winning immediately. When you lose to West Virginia, say they were up by five points at the end?
Is that?
Seg? What was that record? Tell the Rock to record about the Bearcats under west Miller?
They are what West Miller has a record of three wins and fifty losses when he's when his team's are trailing with five minutes to go into game fifty three and fifty.
Rock, how we looking not good?
That the best football team in Indiana is the Hoosiers and not the Irish. That's all I can say.
Welcome back, Rock, So good to be here, so glad to see you guys.
Am I right or wrong?
You're breaking up? I can't hear what you're saying.
Say did that earlier? And now we're back strong? Gotta run. Guys, thank you, let's continue that rock. What do you have on the big show this afternoon if any.
Prior the gate, we have your good friend Steve good Non, former city councsman, local attorney, gonna talk about aftab said we got to raise tack. Now was that a part of his his plan when he was running for mayor? Did he mention that at all you're gonna raise taxes. Okay, so he's gonna raise taxes to increase the uh uh, the safety of the citizens. Maybe we should make sure
you know that the daycarees aren't receiving money. And then we got Dave Hatter, our tech guy at four, I'm gonna talk about there's a lot of I'm sure you've seen this the discussion on X. There's like AI drived nude pictures out there. Everyone's freaking out about it.
But what do you do.
It's not like a real person, so it's not like, you know, child whatever it's it's a it's fake, but it looks real.
Does that make sense to go?
But the mayor cannot keep safe playgrounds for eleven year old girls? Are given the money to protesters that don't deserve the money. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven hundred WULW