Kattie: And my parents came into my room and they're like, we know how bad you feel. Kattie: We're not going to like, I hope you've learned your lesson kind of thing. Kattie: They didn't like harp on me too much. They just kind of opened the door and Kattie: were like, we're very disappointed in you. And we know how bad you feel. Kattie: So you're going to have to deal with this and see your grandma today.
Danny: Hi, and welcome to Five Random Questions, the show where every question is an adventure. Danny: I'm your host, Danny Brown, and each week I'll be asking my guests five questions Danny: created by a random question generator. Danny: The guest has no idea what the questions are, and neither do I, Danny: which means this could go either way. Danny: So sit back, relax, and let's dive into this week's episode. Danny: Today's guest is Kattie Laur, an award-winning freelance podcast producer and
Danny: writer based in Brantford, Ontario. That's in Canada, by the way. Danny: She has a lifelong love of public radio and has been clinging to the podcasting space since 2013. Danny: Kattie Danny: writes a bi-weekly newsletter for the Canadian podcasting ecosystem, Danny: Pod the North, whose regular readers include many media executives from the Danny: likes of CBC Podcasts, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts.
Danny: She's also just wrapped the first season of her debut podcast, Danny: Canardian, which took Canadian podcasters back to the roots to share gossip about their hometowns. Danny: So Kattie, welcome to Five Random Questions. Kattie: Thank you so much for having me, Danny. I'm so excited.
Danny: You're very welcome. And I feel obviously we'll get into our five questions Danny: shortly, but I feel this may be the most important question of the day and that Danny: is how many zucchinis have you been given by friends and family? Kattie: I haven't been given any yet, but I have definitely been doling them out. Kattie: I have a zucchini plant in my backyard that is producing like crazy. Kattie: So I am the person sneaking them into everybody's cars and into everybody's
Kattie: purses. You know, zucchinis galore. Danny: And it's, I mean, you mentioned on Twitter or X, if you want to call it X, Danny: you want to be proper and, you know, go down that road. Danny: But you did mention that this is the season. So, you know, you're warning everybody Danny: to look out for zucchinis. Kattie: Yeah. Look out for zucchinis in your passenger car seat. People be sneaking them everywhere.
Danny: They be sneaking them. I'm going to use that on a t-shirt. They be sneaking them everywhere. Kattie: Zucchinis be sneaking. Danny: I like it. That could be like a little gif or a meme or something. Danny: And I mentioned there, you've just wrapped the first season of Canardian, Danny: which funnily enough is your debut podcast. Danny: Obviously you've been in the podcasting space for a while, but this is your Danny: own debut podcast. So how do you find that?
Kattie: I am loving it. It's so relaxed. Kattie: I think making my own podcast for just myself and doing whatever I want on it. It's been really nice. Kattie: I don't feel that pressure to do anything as a people pleaser for other people. Kattie: It just comes down to me and what I'm capable of. Kattie: So I have been having a great time with it and I'm already in the works working Kattie: on season two. So stay tuned.
Danny: Awesome. And it's a real interesting concept. Like you say, you take your guests Danny: back to their hometown and their roots and you talk about some of the gossip from there. Danny: So I'm curious, of all the episodes that you had and all the guests that you Danny: had on and shared some amazing breaking news, if you like, it was pretty cool to hear. Danny: What was the most outlandish or Danny: unexpected fact that came from any of your guests about their hometowns? Kattie: Oh, man.
Kattie: There is so much wild stuff that came up about it. Kattie: I think talking to Niko Stratus about her hometown of Whitehorse was really Kattie: interesting because I really have no context about what goes on in the northern hemisphere of Canada. Kattie: And talking to her about the Sour Toe cocktail, which I only heard like a little Kattie: bit about and was more familiar with Screechin, which is a East Coast thing in Canada.
Kattie: But the sour talk, Sour Toe cocktail for anyone who Kattie: isn't familiar is essentially you go up to Whitehorse, and Kattie: they have a preserved human toe that they Kattie: put in a shot glass along with a liquor of your Kattie: choosing. And you have to drink it, and the toe has Kattie: to touch your lips and then you've been initiated into coming to Whitehorse,
Kattie: and if you eat the toe you get a massive fine. But there have have been people Kattie: who come in with the money and slam it on the bar and just eat the toe and there's Kattie: a variety of different toes like it's so nuts it's so nuts.
Danny: And that's the thing, I mean a, the the whole concept of the toe. I know like, you can Danny: do that with like um worms or whatever and you know um tequila if you want to Danny: do it properly you know the the proper way for tequila, but a toe like a physical toe being... Kattie: A human toe. Danny: But people willing to put that in their mouth and pay for the experience it just what. Kattie: No i would never do that i would never that's.
Danny: It i mean if they did so if you i mean if they swallow it what's the process Danny: there do you wait for this person to come back after nature's taken its course? Kattie: No that's the thing, there's a variety of toes so people apparently, like I guess Kattie: locals who pass away will sign a waiver to be like you can have my toe next like.
Danny: I don't know, Canadians Kattie: They try not to get people to eat the toe that's why the fine is there, because Kattie: if you eat it then they run out of toes and human toes are hard to come by i guess so. Danny: There you go listeners if you've got a penchant for seeing what a dead person's Danny: toe tastes like when mixed with your beverage of choice you know where to go Danny: and hit Kattie up she can give you some tips on the best recipes i'm sure. Kattie: Whitehorse, Yukon.
Danny: Awesome. So, so Kattie, as is our want, we are on Five Random Questions. Danny: We have two there to start with, so that's a bonus. Danny: So you get seven random questions today, I guess. Danny: Anywho, let's see what the random question generator brings up. Danny: Just a reminder to our listeners, as always, these are 100% random questions. Danny: I've never seen them before. Kattie definitely hasn't seen them before. Danny: And we'll just see where this takes us.
Danny: All right, Kattie, I like this one. Question one. When you're old or older. Danny: Old. Now I'm going to go old, because you're not old. You're not even older Danny: at the moment. Kattie, when you're old, what do you think children will ask you to tell stories about? Kattie: Oh my God, this is such a deep question. I have to really think about this. Kattie: I mean, I guess the worst case answer is snow and winter and maybe skiing.
Kattie: Actually, that might be my answer to this because growing up, Kattie: I did ski racing all throughout my early teens and late teens and traveled around Kattie: Ontario to different ski races and got to go to different hills.
Kattie: So I don't know. The ski season is already in decline. So I think maybe some Kattie: kids might be asking me about winter sports about where it was, and I probably Kattie: would end up telling them about winter sports too just because I can't help it I love winter sports. Danny: I wonder if kids will even have snow when that's Kattie: I wonder. Danny: I mean when I'm older kids will still have snow because I'm old now so older is
Danny: probably like two months away! But yeah I just, I do wonder like you say I know Danny: that the Canadian snow and skiing scene has been really impacted, Danny: you know, by the warmer climate that's been, you know, affecting everything. Danny: So yeah, so you mentioned ski racing. So were you a competitive skier then or Danny: was it competitions that you entered? Kattie: Yeah, I was like a semi-competitive racer. So I wasn't like the top of my team by any means.
Kattie: I skied out of a ski club called the Milton Heights Racing Club, Kattie: just in in Milton, Ontario. Kattie: And that took place at a hill called Glen Eden. Kattie: And Glen Eden is a pretty small hill just off of the escarpment here in Ontario. Kattie: And probably takes you about 30 seconds to ski down and about 15 minutes to Kattie: go up on the chairlift. It took forever.
Kattie: So yeah, the Milton Heights Racing Club was a part of, I guess, Kattie: an entire Ontario racing club competition. Kattie: So I would go to other different clubs around Ontario usually every weekend and go do a race. Kattie: And races were a variety of either a slalom race course or a Super G race course, Kattie: which were either just depends on how close the gates are all together.
Kattie: Yeah, and I did that throughout all of my teen years. And it was super fun going Kattie: to hanging out with my teen friends at different hotels across the province Kattie: and going to ski races the next day. Kattie: And I think by grade 12, I really wasn't, I wasn't expecting to continue racing after I graduated. Kattie: So I was just taking it easy and hanging out with my friends. It was, it was great. Danny: And you still ski now then? You still get up to any resorts,
Danny: et cetera? Because Ontario's got some amazing ones, right? Kattie: Yeah, I still ski when I can. It's been a little bit tricky over the last few Kattie: years, but my partner is a snowboarder. Kattie: So we've been trying to go up skiing and going to Blue Mountain in Ontario, Kattie: which is like sort of the biggest one Ontario has to offer. Kattie: But yeah, the ski season has just been really awful the last couple of years.
Kattie: So we just haven't been able to like the timing just hasn't really worked out Kattie: for us. So hoping to get back on the snow this year at some point. We'll see. Danny: And I guess if the worst comes to the worst, if you ever find a severed toe Danny: because it's been frozen in the snow, you know where to take it. Kattie: Yep. Kattie: Just go over to the Yukon and find some snow there. Danny: Perfect. Perfect. So what would you tell kids, do you think?
Danny: What would you tell them about your time as a teen or just in skiing in general Danny: and why it's such a cool thing to do? Kattie: I don't know. I think I would maybe talk to them about, I think I would maybe Kattie: tell them about my just experience as a teenager and a kid doing competition sports. Kattie: I think it's such a fun part of life if you have the ability to do it. Kattie: You make so many more friends outside of school.
Kattie: This was, if I was ending up in basically my exact parents shoes, Kattie: I would probably be telling children that you don't have to be a copycat of your friends at school. Kattie: You can make friends in other places and find people that you really get along Kattie: with in a variety of different places to figure out who you really are.
Kattie: So I think skiing was such a great opportunity for me to be a part of a team Kattie: and meet people outside of my hometown because people came from kind of across Kattie: the Halton region to come to my ski place. Kattie: So, yeah, I think that was a big part of me finding independence, was just making Kattie: friends in a variety of different places. Kattie: And I think team sports are a big, big part of doing that as a kid.
Danny: No, definitely. And hopefully kids will still be able to enjoy snow, Danny: you know, when they're a bit older, and you're telling them and regaling them Danny: of these tales. So that'd be awesome to hear, for sure. Kattie: And if they can't, they can do my other winter sport, which was speed skating, Kattie: which will take place indoors in a ski arena, or a skating arena, Kattie: which hopefully will be still around in a number of years.
Danny: Yeah, I think they're still popular. Where we live, we have a little outdoor Danny: skating rink that they put together. Danny: So the community puts that together every winter. And that's getting used all Danny: the time by the local kids, etc. So that's good to see. Kattie: Amazing. Danny: Definitely. all righty so that was an interesting one to kick the old episode
Danny: off with yeah, let's see where we go from here. Question number two - what's something Danny: that you've tried that you'll never ever try again? Kattie: Oh, these are such hard questions! Um, I immediately thought about food items but Kattie: i'm I'm not a very picky person. Kattie: You know what? If I can get really, really real about this, I think ecstasy.
Kattie: I've tried ecstasy before a couple of times in my early 20s, Kattie: and it was an experience, but I don't think I will ever do it again. Kattie: It is the worst that... People will try and convince you to do these types of Kattie: drugs and tell you, hey, there's no hangover. Kattie: It's great. It's the happiest you've ever felt in your life. Kattie: And while you will feel very happy that night, the next day, Kattie: I thought I was going to die.
Kattie: Straight up, it was the worst feeling of all time and definitely not worth it. So I would say... Kattie: I wouldn't do any drugs other than weed, if I'm going to be totally honest. Danny: No, I hear you. I mean, I was like, and I've never really shared this before Danny: either. So you're getting on about with me here as well. So kudos there. Danny: But yeah, I was like, I think 31, 32, I think, back in the UK.
Danny: And I never really tried any hard drugs. The main thing I tried was weed, Danny: like you say. Seemed fairly popular. Danny: And a bunch of friends said, so we're going to this rave down in Manchester. Danny: Do you want to come? so I thought yeah cool I've never been to a rave. Kattie: Oh, and in the UK that would be highly tempting I'm sure.
Danny: It was crazy it was a really good evening. Like, the the sounds, the visuals, everything - Danny: great experience um but yeah I'm same as you I Danny: tried uh some ecstasy and felt really Danny: euphoric on the evening and that did help with the pulse and Danny: bass, and all the lights that was going on. But the day after it's the Danny: the worst like come down I guess, yeah, you know I felt lethargic, didn't want
Danny: to do anything. It has a really interesting side effect for men as well, which Danny: makes a certain part of their body very very small um so i will leave that i Danny: will leave that there. Kattie: I feel, like that tells you everything you need to know though. I feel like your body
Kattie: is just in shock it's just like I am so tense but feel awful. Like, the entire Kattie: day I don't think I got out of bed until like 5 p.m like it was brutal absolutely Kattie: brutal i've never felt so awful in my life. Danny: And I'm curious if you ever have kids of your own for example, um because obviously Danny: you've had experiences of your your own, if they said they want to experiment Danny: what would your advice to them be maybe?
Kattie: This is so funny because i was listening to a podcast yesterday that kind of Kattie: um touched on this a little bit which was this guy was talking about how he Kattie: had asked his mom about wanting to try weed. Kattie: And he said, his mom said to him, well, you know, I've tried it before. Kattie: It just kind of made me really sleepy and eat a lot. And it's not really my thing. Kattie: And he was like, oh, okay, well, that doesn't sound very exciting to me.
Kattie: So he just never ended up smoking weed. And he didn't end up trying it until he was in his early 30s. Kattie: Because he just had no interest in it. He didn't really care. Kattie: And to this day, he's not like a big drinker. He's definitely not a drug user, Kattie: like he just isn't into that stuff. Kattie: And not like, I think that's the ideal outcome for everybody that they want for their child. Kattie: I don't know if it's necessarily realistic.
Kattie: But I think if I had a kid and they asked me about drugs, I'd probably be just Kattie: as honest as I'm being right now about how it was. Kattie: Like you feel good the night before, you feel like trash the next day. Like. Kattie: You can't stop kids from trying something anyway, especially if you say no, Kattie: they're usually going to say they're usually going to do it, I feel like. Kattie: So I just try and be honest about it and be like, it's up to you.
Kattie: But I wouldn't recommend going crazy about this. Kattie: And if you want to try it, try a small amount first kind of thing and go from there. Kattie: Or if something is definitely extremely dangerous, I'd be like, Kattie: this is how dangerous this is. maybe send them some articles and just be like Kattie: read this before you decide to make this decision.
Danny: Well that's it's like you say it's that fine line where you're trying to Danny: a um not be judgmental because you did the same Danny: thing you know as a younger person um so they can throw that back you. But as Danny: you say, you don't want to put them, you don't want to encourage them by trying Danny: to put them off too much because then it's just going to make them rebel that's Danny: what kids do, that's what we did as kids, we rebelled against whatever our parents
Danny: told us not to do we would. So I can imagine it being like, thankfully, Danny: I've not had that discussion yet or had to have it with my kids. Danny: Not looking forward to that. We'll see how that goes. Danny: But yeah, I feel like that's almost most things that make you feel great at Danny: the time when you're enjoying lots of ice cream, for example, Danny: all the burgers, all the whatever at a food fest.
Danny: But then you know you're going to pay for it the day after you know in not a Danny: good way and maybe that's the reason they do that you know maybe they're trying Danny: to give you a lesson say well if you're stupid enough to come back the week Danny: after after having gone through that more fault you. Kattie: This is what happened to me as a kid when I was, I think, maybe 15 or 16. Kattie: I went to a Halloween party and definitely drank way too much red wine.
Kattie: And my mom picked me up from that party. And I just she's like, Kattie: I remember the door opening and you just falling out of the door. And I was like, oh, no. Kattie: And my parents were like, Kattie doesn't drink. Kattie: She doesn't do any of these bad things. Kattie: And so that was like the shock of their life was seeing me just inebriated coming Kattie: out of a friend's house. And the next day I had to go visit my grandma and I Kattie: felt like absolute trash.
Kattie: And my parents came into my room and they're like, we know how bad you feel. Kattie: We're not going to like, I hope you've learned your lesson kind of thing. Kattie: They didn't like harp on me too much. They just kind of opened the door and Kattie: were like, we're very disappointed in you. And we know how bad you feel. Kattie: So you're going to have to deal with this and see your grandma today. Kattie: So I was like well I definitely have learned my lesson I think.
Danny: Well and self-punishment is often the best kind of Danny: punishment because you know I don't want to do that again. Yeah autonomy punishment. Danny: Autonomy punishment - there you go, that's a great band name you can see like an Danny: alt rock band from from Brantford popping up there. Awesome. So there you go kids Danny: just say no. Let's have a look at Danny: question number three.
Danny: Ooh, now here's an interesting one. Question three, Kattie, what would be harder Danny: for you: to tell someone you love them or that you do not love them back? Kattie: Ooh, this is such an interesting question because in one instance, Kattie: this is really a question around would you rather be rejected or reject someone? Kattie: And rejection is so hard on both ends. Kattie: I think I think it would be harder for me to tell someone I don't love them back.
Kattie: I have like pretty high people pleasing tendencies. Kattie: And I think like when I love something, I really do love something and I'm pretty Kattie: obvious about it too. So I think it'd be pretty easy for me to tell somebody I love them. Kattie: I don't think it's easy for me to like fall in love. But I think if I got there, Kattie: I could definitely tell them. Kattie: But yeah, to tell them I don't love them back would be extremely difficult.
Danny: Have you ever been in a position where you've been with someone and they're Danny: clearly more into you than you are into them? Danny: And if so, maybe not in a love factor, but certainly in a relationship before Danny: love was involved, for example. Danny: How did you deal with that? How did you manage that then?
Kattie: Interesting. Honestly, like, no. My dating and romantic history has pretty much Kattie: always been being dumped and basically just ending up in the friend zone with everybody. Kattie: But there was one instance that I can think of. I got out of a long-term, Kattie: like a three and a half year relationship right after university, Kattie: at the end of university. Kattie: And that was like basically all of my early 20s Kattie: and late teens so I was ready to date at
Kattie: that point. Um, so I spent like basically Kattie: a year dating and that's when I kind of Kattie: had these instances and there was one specific person
Kattie: that I can tell you the the story about, telling them and rejecting them. Um, and Kattie: actually we went on a lot of really fun dates and had a lot of fun a lot of Kattie: fun together, and it was clear that he was really into me and I usually always Kattie: had to tell him like, hey I'm just sort of out here dating I just got out of Kattie: a long relationship. I'm not ready to make anything serious.
Kattie: And I think because he kept pestering me a bit, it was easier for me to tell Kattie: him because it was starting to get a bit annoying. Kattie: And I wasn't in the headspace where I was taking dating very seriously at that time. Kattie: And then eventually we went on a date and he made some homophobic remarks, Kattie: which made rejecting him a lot easier for me. Kattie: And at the end of that date, I was like, sorry, this is, I don't like you.
Kattie: I I don't like that behavior and we're done here. Kattie: And he was pretty upset about that. Kattie: But I was able to be like, no, we're done. That's the biggest instance I have of that. Danny: It always surprises me. Well, I guess not, because, I mean, obviously people Danny: are different in what they share openly and what they keep until they feel they Danny: can share that, because they might have seen something else in that person.
Danny: But it always kind of surprises me when people, because most people that are Danny: good people, that are open and accepting, make that very clear.
Danny: It comes across when you're talking about people, when you're in environments, etc. Danny: So it always surprises me when when someone comes out that's been with you a Danny: while, or around you for a while, comes out with something that's completely opposite Danny: to what they must know about you as a person and just come up straight out and say something like that.
Kattie: Yeah it is so interesting like you should know me well Kattie: enough we've gone on like what four or five dates now, Kattie: and i'm pretty obvious about the things that i value in life and uh yeah it's Kattie: so interesting when that happens you're like, wait have we been like have we Kattie: been on the same page this whole time? Clearly not. It's so so wild in that instance Kattie: too because you're just like what has this been this whole time exactly.
Danny: And that must have come a bit of a surprise for you because you mentioned you've Danny: been on some amazing dates I guess, up until that point yeah, there'd be no sort Danny: of red flags or warning signs that this person was homophobic.
Kattie: Totally yeah and it was it was a super surprise. And I think this is a super Kattie: stereotype, but one of the funniest parts to me was that he was a barista at Starbucks, Kattie: which is like, there are so many people in the LGBTQ community who are baristas and work at Starbucks. Kattie: I'm like, what is up with you, man? Like, you work amongst these people all Kattie: the time. Like, what is wrong?
Danny: That's crazy. I know my friend over in Toronto likes to go to Starbucks for that very reason. Danny: Who's a cute one that's on barista duty today? So I hear you. Danny: Yeah, that would be a deal breaker for me, 100%. I think for most people as well. Kattie: I would hope so. Danny: Definitely. Danny: Hey there, Danny here. This podcast will forever be free to listen to.
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Danny: Yeah, I have very interesting answers. I'm enjoying this. Danny: Let's see what we have in store for question number four. Danny: Hmm. Interesting one. Okay. Danny: If you could question four, if you could disinvent one thing, what would it be? Kattie: Patriarchy. If we could go way back in time and really look at leadership roles in communities Kattie: and start working with the matriarchy i would love to see where the world would be right now.
Danny: And it's crazy because you look at um obviously Danny: most of the powerful roles since history as Danny: you mentioned since like politics began, and presidents and all that Danny: have been men and look where
Danny: it's got us. You know, we're looking, you look at all wars have Danny: started you look at you know um all the sort Danny: of right-wing crap that's coming out, and obviously there are right-wing women Danny: as well as there are men, but if you look at the the political leaders and everything Danny: like that, it it does seem that we need... well it doesn't seem, it is we need to Danny: give a fair shot and it's about time
Danny: we give a shot to women leaders. And unfortunately, if you look at uh some Danny: of the women leaders that's been in place they've been forced out again because Danny: of you know the old uh the old school tie network unfortunately. Kattie: It, it's so wild the more you think about how Kattie: deeply embedded male leadership is in society Kattie: even like around the world and i've been Kattie: learning a lot through um some actually some indigenous podcasts
Kattie: that i've been producing uh around matriarchy. And, Kattie: and just thinking about how embedded in leadership women have been in the past Kattie: and then sort of pushed out of that is so interesting to know that we really Kattie: don't have any perception of what a women-led society is or would be at this point. We have no idea.
Kattie: I think we could probably look at New Zealand and their prime minister there, Kattie: but it's because of the nature of it still being within a democratic society.
Kattie: It's still different right like we it could be a Kattie: totally different type of political uh leadership Kattie: style if women had been in charge from the beginning, so like we really have Kattie: absolutely no perception and that's why sci-fi can be such a great genre, because Kattie: people imagine these things in a variety of different ways and i think that's Kattie: what makes you and I Star Wars fans too, so yeah,
Kattie: But it's, yeah, I think it would just be so interesting to see where things Kattie: would be right now if women had been in charge of all these things. Kattie: I wonder if colonialism would have even happened. Danny: That's a good question, because I'm obviously, as you mentioned, Danny: you work with a lot of indigenous podcasters.
Danny: And you're one of the things I always appreciate about your newsletter is you Danny: share water advisories for indigenous communities, communities Danny: and yeah it's again you go Danny: back to i guess maybe because i mean Danny: i'm thinking of the the European colonization as well, um Danny: a lot of that was by decree of Queen Danny: um Elizabeth i feel the first
Danny: one, is it Queen Victoria maybe. So i mean i i do feel the majority is obviously Danny: male driven, um because you just have to look at political histories to see what Danny: what happens there, so it would be curious to see if that would be if it would Danny: be there and even if it was there to what degree. Would it still be there but Danny: to a smaller degree or would it not be there whatsoever yeah? Kattie: So interesting, so interesting.
Danny: What's funny as well, yeah it's not funny, you mentioned the Danny: New Zealand prime minister and she got forced out if i recall because Danny: she had the audacity to enjoy herself a nightclub one time, and there was a huge Danny: like discourse about it and like political opponents were hammering her and
Danny: she was, she just got bombarded. And you flip that to the other side and you look Danny: at Justin Trudeau was over in the UK and okay, Danny: he got a bit of a flak for being at, Danny: I don't know if it was a nightclub or a restaurant or something, Danny: he was having some fun, relaxing, letting his hair down when he should have been at this big event. Danny: And you're thinking, come on, even as a politician, there's a time when your Danny: day job stops and you can just have fun.
Danny: And I feel there's a lot more criticism of women leaders and higher standards to live up to there. Kattie: Totally. And if you think about Donald Trump, who literally owns party venues Kattie: and is there all the time, like, what is he doing the majority of the time? Kattie: I'm sure it's not work. I'm willing to put money on that. Danny: I think he's probably eating burgers. I don't know if he's got a bowling alley Danny: at the Mar-a-Lago. He probably has. He golfs a lot, obviously.
Kattie: Yeah. Danny: Interesting, interesting. So disinvent patriarchy. Kattie: Yeah. Danny: Alrighty. Kattie: Not a simple task, but we're imagining here. Danny: Yeah, and it's interesting because I was expecting maybe disinvents or something Danny: that had been invented from a technical point of view or whatever, Danny: but I like that. I like that a lot.
Danny: Alrighty, so we've reached question number five. We've flown through this and Danny: it just shows when you're having fun and a great conversation, time does fly. Danny: So let's see how we can wrap this one up, Kattie. Danny: Okay. Question number five. And I feel I may have an idea here, Danny: but I'm not going to put my life on it. Kattie: Yeah, definitely don't do that. Danny: I'm not going to put my Toonie or Loonie on it. That's Canadian dollar and two
Danny: dollars for our non-Canadian listeners. Okay, Kattie. Danny: Question number five. What do people do too much of today? Kattie: Oh, man. Kattie: These are such hard questions and there's absolutely no way to prepare for them either. Danny: That's the beauty of randomnicity. Kattie: What do people do too much of today. Um, I Kattie: think people are just Kattie: like too chronically online, I think
Kattie: that's my answer. They do too much of of trying Kattie: to find themselves through the internet and maybe just Kattie: yeah i don't know if that's a very clear answer. Kattie: But it would be nice if people felt like they Kattie: could uh turn off their phones and just Kattie: like exist in the world again. Um, a Kattie: podcast i was listening to yesterday, Resurrection, which i Kattie: have to shout out it's a wonderful podcast um and Kattie: the story kind of follows two lovers
Kattie: sending letters to each other and having phone calls uh living abroad. And i Kattie: was like oh man i refer, i remember that, being a time when i was a kid going Kattie: to camp and sending letters to my family and being so disconnected and living Kattie: in the moment, and still kind of communicating when the time was right.
Kattie: And in those instances of communicating with your friends and loved ones through Kattie: letters and phone calls that aren't as often and easily accessible, Kattie: it makes those connections just so much more valuable. Kattie: And this podcast, Resurrection, there's an entire, the first season includes Kattie: an entire stack of hundreds of love letters.
Kattie: And it's only the one side of these love letters and seeing kind of how they've Kattie: interacted and how the breaks between the times are when they were together. Kattie: So there is no documentation. Kattie: They were just living in the moment and we'll never know what that was like. Kattie: But then you get the letters from Kattie: when they're separated and you kind of understand their love story there.
Kattie: And I don't know, I think, yeah, not being so chronically online would make Kattie: people less depressed, would make people hate themselves less, Kattie: I think, and find more joy in the world, I would hope. Danny: And it's interesting you mention a time of, you know, sending letters, Danny: exchanging letters, etc. Danny: When I was a teen, and we're going back years here, mid-80s, Danny: my first serious girlfriend, we ended up being together for four years.
Danny: But this was way before the internet, obviously. So we would either be on the Danny: phone, like a landline phone with a big cable, no cell phones, Danny: no mobile phones or anything, or we'd write each other a letter once a week. Danny: And now and again we'd put little mixtapes in Danny: with these letters and we'd have the the track listing
Danny: on the letters, and an explanation of why that song was added. (I love this). It Danny: was amazing and like i say this was going back, oh my grief 40 years now at least, Danny: um and yeah now i feel like my kids now they've just started having their own Danny: phones so they'll text. My son, my 14 year old son has got his first girlfriend. Danny: Oh, second girlfriend, actually. Oh, yeah. A little bit of a player. Danny: A little bit of a player on that one.
Danny: But yeah, second girlfriend, but they're texting all the time. Danny: And I feel that's great, but I feel there's something just missing to your point of, you know, Danny: I was watching the Glastonbury Festival. BBC kindly streamed it for the first Danny: time and they streamed a Coldplay concert and I was watching that and at the Danny: end, they were doing their encore and Chris Martin, Danny: they were doing Galaxy of Stars, I think it's called, or Universe of Stars, Sky of Stars.
Danny: The song that's got stars in it. And he said before he started, Danny: okay, this is just going to be me, the band and you guys. Danny: So put your phones in your pockets, put them all away and we're just going to Danny: be in the moment and sing this song together and be a 100,000 piece band. And Danny: everybody did that, you watched it and it was amazing and I was getting goosebumps Danny: just watching that performance because nobody was on the phone.
Kattie: Yeah I think it's interesting like the novelty of Kattie: connection is almost gone now because it just feels so accessible, at least in Kattie: the western world, so it's just so interesting that it almost, you almost take Kattie: your relationships and the people that you meet for granted at this point because Kattie: they're just so accessible and easy to reach.
Kattie: Um yeah it's i think that and also Kattie: i've made a conscious effort too because i love taking photos and videos and Kattie: everything and with my phone, it's been so easy to do that um and especially Kattie: like great quality photos and videos too, like phones are so amazing. And i've Kattie: purposely tried to take a shift, have like a little bit of a mindset shift in Kattie: that i'm taking photos and videos for Kattie: myself and not to post online.
Kattie: And one of my, I still like look through all the photos that I've taken over Kattie: the number of years on like my Facebook albums and all the old photos I've taken. Kattie: So I love looking at photos and videos. Kattie: So now I'm just like trying to purposely take my mind out of like, Kattie: this is something I want to post and share with the world. Kattie: And this is just something that I want to like look at later and document for another time.
Kattie: This is something I've been thinking about out a lot lately, is just like making Kattie: sure that I track things in my life for myself future down the line when I can Kattie: look back at my life and yeah, not feeling the pressure to share with everybody all the time.
Danny: And I wonder if the new, so next year, I think, the new curriculum in Ontario Danny: for schools, elementary and high school, there's a restriction on phone usage Danny: and social media usage in class, etc. Danny: I wonder if that will help maybe encourage more of our kids to be, Danny: obviously, parents have got the job to encourage and educate the dangers of online. Danny: But while encouraging, but we don't want to stop you using technology.
Danny: We just want to use it effectively, like you mentioned. So I wonder if that Danny: curriculum might help, do you feel, for moving forward? Kattie: I would hope so. I mean, I think if anything, like just living in the moment Kattie: a little bit more, it will help with that. Kattie: Help people focus on classroom content rather than things to post and looking online all the time. Kattie: Yeah, we're just so used to absorbing so much content at the same time now.
Kattie: I feel like it might be a little bit tricky for people to get used to it again. Kattie: But I have like a bunch of canoe trips planned this summer and cannot wait to Kattie: just like be, be somewhere where I have absolutely no internet access. Kattie: Don't feel the pressure of people reaching out to me and people I have to get back to. Kattie: Don't feel the pressure of needing or wanting to post things.
Kattie: I can just live in the moment, hang out with my family and just enjoy life. Ready for that. Danny: And canoeing is perfect for that. Getting out on the water just because it's Danny: just, it's so like going back to basics of humanity, right? Danny: It's just, I love, we are very fortunate. and we have a lake about 20 minutes walk from our house. Danny: So I'll take, I've got a lot of, certainly blow up inflatable kayak.
Danny: So I'll take that up, just get it off and then disappear for a couple hours. It's gorgeous. Kattie: That sounds perfect. Danny: And I guess it's like, hopefully, I mean, the problem is the genie's at the Danny: bottom when it comes to tech, but hopefully, like you say, if we can shift mindsets Danny: and people start to appreciate, you can still use tech, but now just be in this moment for now.
Kattie: Yeah, that's the hardest part. I think, sorry, not to keep ragging on this, Kattie: But I think people have just gotten so Kattie: stuck into like everything is content mindset now, where I'm thinking specifically Kattie: of this woman that I was watching a YouTube video about on TikTok, about she Kattie: was making a video sitting in her car about how she couldn't reach her son and Kattie: how he was supposed to be in detention at school,
Kattie: but she couldn't get a hold of anybody at the school. Kattie: And people like why are you filming this video, go to Kattie: the school already, like go find your Kattie: son! It's just everything is content and people just Kattie: have to make things for for no reason and go on TikTok make a video and ask Kattie: people for advice, when you should have friends and family close enough to you Kattie: to give you sound advice with the context and the nuance of who you are as a
Kattie: person. So I don't know it's just so weird that people just go online for everything now Well. Danny: It's like the people, just to elaborate on your point there as well, Danny: it's like people, they're filming a fight or they're filming a car crash and Danny: the person's still in the car. You're filming it and you're thinking, Danny: Why aren't you calling 911? Why aren't you helping? Danny: It's like clicks and views seem to be pervasive in our society, unfortunately.
Danny: Again, hopefully, as more people realize the dangers of online and too much Danny: connectivity, hopefully we'll start to peel some of that back for us. Kattie: Yeah, I hope our relationships have value again sometime soon. Danny: Unless they're homophobic, obviously. Exactly. Get rid of these ones. Kattie: Toss them in the trash.
Danny: So Kattie as I mentioned, I really enjoyed these five question and answers. In Danny: all 100% fairness, I always do this every week, I feel it's only fair that you Danny: get to ask your own random question of me because I have put you through the Danny: ringer for the last 30 minutes or so okay. Kattie: Um what is the worst food combination you've ever tried? Danny: Oh that is like... I mean I'm Scottish so there's probably with some really bad
Danny: food combinations anyway. Ah, food combinations. Danny: I feel there's something to do with a breakfast I had in the US because the Danny: US has got some interesting breakfast choices, if that's the right word. Danny: And I feel there was something where it was a, oh, you know what it is? Danny: It is breakfast, but you can also have it for lunch, etc. Danny: And I was trying to think what the food was and I still don't understand.
Danny: I'm sure, oh, you know, a lot of people do like it. Danny: What's the fascination with fried chicken on waffles and sometimes with some ice cream at the side? Kattie: Oh with the ice cream on the. Danny: Side the ice cream at the side Kattie: Oh listen i think it's just like Kattie: the sweet and savory combo sometimes, and this Kattie: is the thing with sweet and savory, and i'll go out and say it - sometimes it hits
Kattie: and sometimes it doesn't. And i think chicken and waffles is one of those things Kattie: where you have to have, like, it has to be perfect. The chicken can't be dry it Kattie: has to be juicy because it has It has to kind of go along with the waffle, Kattie: which is also often a dry food. Kattie: So you have to cook it perfectly for a chicken and waffles to hit. Kattie: Otherwise, it's just kind of nasty and you'd prefer to eat them separately.
Kattie: But otherwise, savory and sweet. They do go together sometimes. Danny: Sometimes. I will have to take your word for it. I just, I always think of waffles. Kattie: There's no scientific evidence to that. Danny: I just think of waffles as a dedicated breakfast thing. Danny: So maybe you have waffles and my daughter has waffles with strawberries on it, Danny: sometimes bananas, some little bit of syrup, whatever. And that's her breakfast. She likes that.
Danny: Whereas other times, I don't know, maybe you do put ice cream on top of a warm Danny: waffle. But to take like a greasy, I guess it depends on how greasy the chicken is as well. Kattie: I don't think I would combine fried chicken and ice cream. Danny: Well, no. I mean, Scottish people have some weird things like fried Mars bars. Danny: Never had one. Have no interest in having one ever. Danny: So I can't really speak as a cultural, you know, example.
Danny: But yeah, I just can't. Like chicken, waffle, ice cream all on the same plate. That was bizarre to see. Kattie: Interesting answer. Danny: Interesting question. Thank you for that. So Kattie, as I mentioned, I really enjoyed this.
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