4 Degrees of Madness

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In each episode the hosts LAN and KEY discuss one or more of the four topics: Technology, Psychology, Aviation and Security/Privacy. Through the podcasts, the hosts aim to educate, inspire growth and acceptance of the madness within each of us.

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Episodes

Episode 8 - Part 2 - Threat Assessment, Injustice Collectors, and Protective Factors with Dr. Rudy Lorber

In Part 2, LAN and KEY interview Dr. Rudy Lorber who is a Certified Threat Manager in additional to being a clinical neuropsychologist. He discusses the subtle variables and motivations needed to be identified when managing and diverting a threat pathway.

Sep 03, 2020•18 min

Episode 8 - Part 1 - Neuropsychology, Autism, and a Coffee Cup Analogy with Dr. Rudy Lorber

LAN and KEY interview Dr. Rudy Lorber, a neuropsychologist and clinical psychologist who is board certified in school and behavioural psychology. In Part 1, he discusses the diagnosis of Autism Spectrum Disorder and the Applied Behavioural Analysis model used to develop greater skillsets in individuals to help them become more independent. Dr. Lorber also addresses positive reinforcement as a behavioural principle that aids in interventions.

Sep 03, 2020•19 min

Episode 7 - Cybercrime, Investigations, and Humanity as the Common Denominator with Kenrick Bagnall

LAN and KEY interview Kenrick Bagnall, a detective constable with the Toronto Police Services, as part of the coordinated cyber centre. Kenrick discusses his career path along with what it takes to conduct a cyber investigation. He speaks to the importance of evidence needed for a successful prosecution as well as the patience & cooperation required when working between jurisdictions. He provides tips at the end for proper cyber hygiene and reminds us of our vulnerabilities as human beings....

Jul 25, 2020•21 min

Episode 6 - Terraforming, Exoplanets, LEGO Robotics & Freedom of Speech with Geoffrey Landis

KEY and LAN interview Geoffrey A. Landis, a scientist and science fiction writer working at the NASA Glenn Research Centre on the Mars Exploration Rovers mission. Geoffrey discusses the potential for life and terraforming on Mars along with the newer findings about exoplanets in other solar systems. He also speaks to his view on imagination, character creation, freedom of speech, and how to find the truth. "That is the key to science fiction, and probably the key to everything: get your imaginat...

Jun 25, 2020•25 min

Episode 5 - Ethical Tech Governance & Hearing Diverse Perspectives with Susan Etlinger

LAN and KEY interview Susan Etlinger, Industry Analyst at Altimeter Group and Senior Fellow of Global Policy at the Centre for International Governance Innovation. Susan explains the nuances in how data, bias, and predictive modelling are treated. She also discusses how diverse teams can help construct digital environments, while inspiring the use of thought experiments to answer big questions.

May 25, 2020•27 min

Episode 4 - TOR, Tools, Trust, and TPL with Jonathon Hodge

LAN and KEY interview Jonathon Hodge, the Digital Literacy Service Lead at the Toronto Public Library (previously Digital Privacy Project Lead). Jonathon discusses the TOR pilot project at the Toronto Public Library, in which he was a key player. He also discusses the TOR browser, Signal Messenger vs. WhatsApp and leaves 4 tips at the end on how to navigate the "algorithmic madness".

May 01, 2020•22 min

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