Wisdom at Work
A bold & visionary leader, Chip Conley rejoins Moe Abdou to chronicle his experience as the Elder Statesman at Airbnb.

A bold & visionary leader, Chip Conley rejoins Moe Abdou to chronicle his experience as the Elder Statesman at Airbnb.
Chris, James and Jenna discuss how Porter Road is radically improving the meat industry by controlling the entire supply chain, setting and upholding strict quality standards, and revitalizing the sense of community of your local butcher shop.We chat about how to respond when life throws you curveballs, the importance of waking up every day with the intention of challenging yourself and striving to improve the world, and our duty to inspire and uplift each other doing so. Throughout our chat, we...
Ara Katz, Raja Dhir and Jenna discuss how Seed is redefining health by helping us utilize our microbiome as a lens to not only improve our health but to recognize our interconnectedness with each other and the planet.Ara and Raja give us a primer on what we need to know about our microbiome, the impact its wellbeing has on our health, and share six strategies we can start practicing today to increase our gut health. We also discuss Seed’s efforts to equip a global community with the knowledge an...
Award-winning journalist, Danny Penman rejoins Moe Abdou to discuss the miraculous power of the breath and why it holds the key to unlocking your true essence.
theBoardlist CEO Shannon Gordon and Jenna kick off discussing her experiences serving in the Peace Corps in Senegal, West Africa and the lessons she learned about making time for joy and community, finding our shared humanity, and seeing and accepting people as their whole selves.We chat about theBoardlist’s efforts elevating diversity at the board level - less than 20% of board seats at Fortune 1,000 companies are held by women and less than 7% are at private companies - and why they believe in...
HATCH CEO and Founder Ariane Goldman and Jenna discuss how her parents “thirst for life” as founders inspired her to pursue entrepreneurship, the catalyst for HATCH and the brand's evolution from a clothing line into a community that empowers every mother to tap into her own unique sense of strength. We chat about our shared humanity facing challenges, how sharing them helps us all feel more confident and reassured, and how putting in the work during the early years affords us freedom of choice ...
Lunya CEO and Founder Ashley Merrill and Jenna discuss how Ashley relies on the mantra - ‘Be the change you wish to see in the world’ - as a framework to guide her life. We unpack the metaphor that entrepreneurship is like bowling and trace Lunya’s evolution from Googling ‘How do you make clothes?’ to pioneering the modern sleepwear category and launching their latest collection, COOL. We spend the majority of our time together walking through key lessons on building our risk-taking muscle, the ...
hims CEO and Founder Andrew Dudum and Jenna discuss how his family’s mantras of being the best and taking the untrodden path instilled the courage he needed to drop of out school at 19 and start building companies. We walk through the helpful visualization framework Andrew relies on to take risks, why he believes that personal and professional growth isn’t about faking it until you make it, you have to fake it forever, and how the under recognized ability of being confident enough to acknowledge...
&pizza Co-founder and CEO Michael Lastoria and Jenna discuss how &pizza’s values and culture prioritizing their tribe’s personal growth, creativity and wellbeing have been the undercurrent of their success expanding to nearly 30 pizza shops in seven years. We chat about accepting change and pressure as constant forces in our lives and leaning into them, our responsibility to teach ourselves lessons to avoid self inflicted suffering, as well as earning the right to grow by consistently be...
Award-winning journalist and celebrated entrepreneur, Shane Snow rejoins Moe Abdou to explore the fascinating science behind building and leading a Dream Team.
UNC Business School Professor, Dr. Bradley Staats joins Moe Abdou to discuss why most of us are notoriously bad learners, and how a shift in mindset can amplify our career trajectory and sense of self-worth.
Denise Lee and Jenna reflect on her parents giving her the courage to start Alala, how early mentors helped her launch the brand and her best advice for asking people for help. We walk through how focusing on momentum empowers us to navigate uncertain situations and be active decision-makers as well as making the critical mindset shift of truly acknowledging when we have done great work rather than solely focusing on improvement. We also talk about the practice that helps Denise maintain perspec...
Google advisor for leadership development, Fred Kofman joins Moe Abdou to discuss why leaders who prioritize meaning & purpose consistently outperform their competitors & ignite greatness in others.
Afton Vechery, Carly Leahy and Jenna discuss how Modern Fertility is equipping women with the data they need to proactively manage their reproductive health. We chat about the biggest piece of advice the founders didn’t take, how doing the opposite propelled them forward, and the advice they give instead. We also dive into the life and career experiences that empowered them to advocate for themselves, be courageous enough to ask and answer the hard questions, and embrace their authentic selves.
Lisa Price and Jenna walk through her incredible 25-year journey leading Carol’s Daughter, beginning with launching the business with $100 out of her kitchen, taking risks without a safety net, and learning to humanize fear so we can free ourselves from it. Lisa opens up about the process of overcoming some of her greatest challenges, including the moment she realized she lost her voice at her company and how she reclaimed it, as well as how she relies on her mother’s advice, the True Carol, to ...
Susanna Fogel and Jenna discuss her upcoming movie The Spy Who Dumped Me, her intentions crafting a narrative that empowers women, and writers’ responsibility championing important narratives in Hollywood. We dive into Susanna’s writing process including the life experiences that inspire her work, how she creates unique characters, and the trick to making them relatable.Susanna also shares her journey as a writer in Hollywood, the mindset shift that helped her overcome imposter syndrome, and how...
Rachel Shane and Jenna discuss her experience bringing the 10-time Emmy nominated series Genius to life and her team’s intention to show the humanity of its characters: Albert Einstein, Pablo Picasso, and soon Mary Shelley. Rachel walks us through how her decision to take a leave from law school led her to an internship at Televisa and has evolved into an incredible career as an executive at MWM Studios and Red Wagon Entertainment and an executive producer on award-winning films like Lawless and...
Chris Wichert, Johannes Quodt and Jenna discuss Koio’s mission to create a modern sneaker and leather accessories brand and share a glimpse into The Collective: their exclusive sneaker collaborations with partners like Game of Thrones and The Beverly Hills Hotel.We spend the majority of our chat diving into key lessons Chris and Johannes have learned about reframing challenges, learning to detach from outcomes, making time for creativity to flourish, and how they live their Think Big and Positiv...
Polina Veksler and Alexandra Waldman sit down with Jenna to share how Universal Standard is creating enduring change in the fashion industry — From building a size irrelevant brand to introducing their Fit Liberty Program and eliminating the notion of paying an emotional price for clothing.
Claire Schmidt and Jenna kick off discussing her calling to start AllVoices, the underlying reasons that 75% of harassment incidents go unreported and how we can all work to make our companies more equal and just.We spend the majority of our time together walking through key lessons Claire has learned about why it’s critical to detach our identity from our work, how she maintains her mindfulness practice during busy times and the direct correlation between quiet time, self-improvement and the gr...
Simon Cheng and Jenna discuss how Pique is modernizing the tea industry by utilizing a 1,300 year old process to extract the maximum benefits of tea leaves and funneling them into a product fit for our fast-paced lifestyle. We spend the majority of our time walking through Simon’s incredible mindfulness practice, including his healing Qigong meditation, how we can use breath work to not only stay present and grounded but as the pathway to self-discovery, as well as how learning how to access and...
Former Dollar General CEO, Cal Turner Jr joins Moe Abdou to relive the trials and tribulations of growing a multi-generation family business.
Justine Lucas and Jenna discuss the Clara Lionel Foundation’s work supporting global education and emergency response programs, as well as her expertise mobilizing social movements and the non-profit 2.0 model. We spend most of our chat exploring Justine’s philosophy on truly taking advantage of life, from her unplanned travel adventures to her freeing ability to allow life to unfold, rather than planning it, and her live fast mantra.
Jeni Britton Bauer and Jenna walk through the story of how Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams became one of America's most beloved ice cream brands; Beginning from the moment Jeni decided to be an ice cream maker at age nine to opening over 30 stores across the U.S. We spend our time together diving into the key lessons Jeni’s learned over the last two decades on what its really like to be a trailblazer, how to approach experience as your ultimate teacher and truth, and why we should strive to be better...
Moe Abdou is joined by Michael Sonnenfeldt - the Founder & Chairman of the world's premier peer-to-peer learning community, Tiger 21 - to discuss why/how the most admired entrepreneurs are infinite learners.
Christina Stembel and Jenna walk through the evolution of Farmgirl Flowers, from Christina making bouquets in her 100 square foot bathroom in San Francisco to becoming a multimillion dollar company. Christina breaks down the two most pressing challenges she’s faced over last seven years - the do or die moment she feared would end the business and the decision to start sourcing flowers internationally - through the lens of the lessons they taught her on reframing situations to make rational decis...
Nadine Abramcyk and Jenna chat about Tenoverten’s founding story, from the first nine customers who came for services, despite the salon having no heat, to recognizing the opportunity to pioneer the natural nail care movement. We spend most of our time together discussing key lessons Nadine’s learned on presence and fulfillment, including letting go of the need to be perfect in order to really experience your life, habits that help her focus on the essentials, and the power of letting your mind ...
Moe Abdou is joined by acclaimed psychologist Abigail Marsh to explore why being sensitive to the fears of others is a prelude to understanding our own fears.
Hillary Peterson and Jenna discuss her inspiration to found True Botanicals to pioneer radical change in the beauty industry and how the team combines ancient wisdom and modern science to create best in class hair and skincare products. We then walk through the most impactful lessons Hillary’s learned on living the life you have versus the one you planned, trusting your creativity, and her commitment to avoiding stress.*Editor's Note: Olivia Wilde is mentioned as Chief Brand Officer in the podca...
Leadership aficionado, Ram Charan rejoins Moe Abdou to explore why modern leaders have to become diverse, iterative, and digitized.