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30 Minutes to President's Club | No-Nonsense Sales

Armand Farrokh & Nick Cegelskiwww.30mpc.com
The #1 sales podcast in the world, fueled by hyper-actionable sales tactics from the top 1% sellers at companies like Salesforce, Gong, Outreach, Slack, LinkedIn, Keller Williams, Northwestern Mutual. 30 Minutes to President's Club cuts all the BS, fluffy mindset stories, and sales academia to give you the most actionable sales tactics that get you to President's Club. Every episode is a supercharged 30 minutes where you'll hear step-by-step breakdowns in every key dimension of sales, including: Prospecting: How to open conversations to triple your pipeline Discovery: How to ask questions that uncover massive pain Process: How to get big contracts over the line Leadership: How to hire and train world class teams. Your founding hosts are Nick Cegelski (3x top enterprise seller) and Armand Farrokh (VP of Sales at 29, ex-Pave, ex-Carta) joined by co-host Mark Kosoglow (CRO @ Catalyst, ex-Outreach).  Whether you're seller listening to the (SELL) show or leader tuning into the (LEAD) show… Get ready, you're going to President's Club.

Episodes

How to Make Prospects Open Up Without Feeling Pressured | Charles Muhlbauer | Ep. 293 (Sell)

Join the 30MPC Discovery Course waitlist TODAY and get first dibs + $25 off your first TWO months of Club Pass: https://clubpass.30mpc.com/discovery-course. ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Use Humbling Disclaimers: Preface tough questions with softening statements like, “I’m not quite sure how to ask this,” or “This might feel direct.” It lowers defensiveness and makes hard questions land better. Dig Into Prospect Rumblings: Prospects often hint at problems rather than state them outright. Listen for vagu...

Mar 11, 202541 min

How To Set Next Steps In Sales With The 5 Minute Drill

There is an extreme over-rotation in sales on setting next steps. Setting next steps is NOT always a good thing. 🛑 Bad: Never setting next steps 🟡 Okay: Setting steps on every deal 🟢 Good: Setting steps on REAL deals Instead, first determine if the deal is worth setting next steps with at all. Then, you should recommend the appropriate next step, but only if your prospects have proven that it's worth keeping them in your pipeline. That's where the Five Minute Drill comes in: Three questions y...

Mar 10, 20254 min

How to Coach Your Reps Like a Top 1% Sales Leader | Alex Kremer | Ep. 292 (Lead)

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: No Last-Minute Coaching: Avoid changing a rep’s game plan in the 30 minutes before a call. It signals distrust and forces them to scramble, leading to a worse outcome. Stick to One Coaching Theme: Don’t introduce a new area of improvement after every call. Focus feedback on a consistent theme to drive real progress. Align on Call Emotion: Before a discovery call, ask your rep how they want the prospect to feel. This sets the right tone and helps shape their delivery. Know Y...

Mar 06, 202541 min

Fancy Discovery Questions Don’t Work (Ask These Qs Instead) | Keenan | Ep. 291 (Sell)

Join the 30MPC Discovery Course waitlist TODAY and get first dibs + $25 off your first TWO months of Club Pass: https://clubpass.30mpc.com/discovery-course. ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Deflect Product Questions Early: When a prospect asks about your product upfront, redirect by asking what’s happening in their business that made them look in the first place. Avoid the trap of leading with features. Reduce Technical Objections: If a prospect fixates on a small technical blocker, refocus on the bigger b...

Mar 04, 202540 min

Challenger Sales Mistakes | Dan Flood | 30MPC Hall of Fame

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Provide Hypotheses, Not Generic Questions: Instead of broad questions, offer informed hypotheses to invite deeper discussion. Ask Questions to Guide Next Steps: Use questions to guide the process without being pushy, keeping the prospect engaged. Teach Process Over Just Problems: Beyond identifying issues, recommend processes (like a custom demo over a POC) to build trust. Uncover Intent Behind Extra Steps: When extra steps are requested, ask what they aim to learn to sugge...

Mar 03, 202539 min

The Art & Science of Quota Setting: Get It Right or Lose Your Team | 30MPC Playbook (Lead)

PLAYBOOK TAKEAWAYS: Aim for 70% attainment and 70% participation to create a winning culture. Avoid feast-or-famine environments where only a few reps succeed. Use historical data to set quotas based on pipeline, win rates, and deal size. Every quota increase must be backed by an investment in pipeline, win rates, or deal size. Revisit quotas once per year, unless there’s a massive skew in attainment. Communicate quota changes with transparency and clear justification. Avoid high attainment with...

Feb 27, 202542 min

How to Close $10M+ Deals & Make $1M W-2 | Ian Koniak | Ep. 290 (Sell)

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Create a Not-To-Do List: Identify low-value tasks to eliminate instead of just adding more effort. Free up time for strategic activities like prospecting and closing. Prioritize RGAs: Focus only on activities that create new pipeline or advance existing deals. Everything else is a distraction. Enterprise Deal Timeline: Q1 is for building a POV and landing initial meetings. Q2 is for discovery and securing an executive sponsor. Q3 is for proposal, negotiation, and procur...

Feb 25, 202542 min

Land & Expand Deals | Eleanor Dorfman | 30MPC Hall of Fame

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Segmented Team Structure: Down-market teams focus on landing new logos, passing them to expand teams, while up-market AEs handle both acquisition and expansion with retention-based comp. Enterprise Sales Strategies: Use top-down (sell wall-to-wall) or land-and-expand approaches, with the latter yielding higher LTV by scaling through business units first. Deal Inspection Triggers: Monitor $50K deals at stage 3 for POCs and access to power, and stage 5 for mutual action plans...

Feb 24, 202539 min

How to Push Top Performers Without Losing Them | Alex Kremer | Ep. 289 (Lead)

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Understand Rep Motivation: Identify what drives each rep—money, career growth, or exploration—then get their permission to push them toward that goal, laying the foundation for future coaching. Call Out the Situation First: Before changing a rep’s behavior, acknowledge the dynamic at play so both parties are aligned. This prevents resistance and confusion. Leverage Top Performers: Coach high performers by challenging them to reach the next level and putting them in the spot...

Feb 20, 202542 min

Why Buyers HATE Your Sales Process | Jake Dunlap | Ep. 288 (Sell)

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Understand the VEX Scale: Classify prospects as Vetted (using a competitor), Educated (familiar but undecided), Cold (new to the space), or Self-Service. Tailor your approach accordingly. Ask About Their Journey: Send an email upfront asking where they are in their learning process. This helps you position the conversation at the right level. Skip Basic Discovery for Vetted Prospects: If they already use a competitor, focus on their current solution’s gaps and ideal out...

Feb 18, 202539 minEp. 288

How to Use AI For Prospecting | Kyle Coleman | 30MPC Hall of Fame

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Identify Strategic Initiatives: Focus on big company bets that are close to revenue, such as IPOs, international expansions, or mergers and acquisitions. Double Personalize Outreach: Combine company-specific observations with industry trends to create messaging that feels hyper-relevant. Build a Strategic Research Framework: Create a table to map key initiatives (e.g., IPO readiness) on one side and sources of information (e.g., 10-K reports, CEO interviews, press releases)...

Feb 17, 202541 min

Stop Hiring the Wrong People, Use This Interview Structure Instead | Kevin "KD" Dorsey | Ep. 287 (Lead)

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Interview Kits for Prep: Send candidates an interview kit outlining expectations, key questions, and details on interviewers. Poor answers indicate lack of prep or poor fit. Evidence-Based Questions Only: Avoid hypotheticals. Ask for proof of past performance (P.O.P.) to assess real experience and capabilities. Screening Videos Save Time: Require a three-minute video on a key trait (e.g., perseverance). Evaluate clarity, instructions-following, and presentation skills b...

Feb 13, 202541 min

The AI Playbook for Sales: How to Book More Meetings & Close More Deals With AI | Jake Dunlap | Ep. 286 (Sell)

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS ChatGPT Research Triangle: Before outreach, prompt ChatGPT with the industry (including sub-industry), job title, and your product’s value. This ensures messaging aligns with trends relevant to the prospect. Use Industry Jargon: Ask ChatGPT for insider terminology that VPs in specific industries use. This makes your messaging sound more credible and tailored to their world. Refine Email Sequences: Provide ChatGPT with your email templates and ask it to integrate industr...

Feb 11, 202543 minEp. 286

Using Intent Signals in Cold Outreach | Florin Tatulea | 30MPC Hall of Fame

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Signal Prioritization: Categorize signals (e.g., high-intent, time-based) with different response SLAs to ensure timely outreach. Call Blitz Culture: Multiple weekly call blitzes with a virtual sales floor create a high-energy, team-building cold calling environment. Effective Personalization: Don’t rely on signals alone; combine them with company insights to craft personalized, compelling outreach. 80/20 Email Framework: Provide reps with an 80% completed template (signal,...

Feb 10, 202536 min

How to Fix a Broken Sales Org in 90 Days | Kevin "KD" Dorsey | Ep. 285 (Lead)

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Focus on High-Impact Problems: Prioritize fixing widespread issues over the loudest complaints. High-volume problems drive more meaningful change than squeaky-wheel issues. Leverage 2x Multipliers: Target improvements that can double key metrics rather than marginal gains. Align leadership early so they understand why other issues aren’t top priority. Weekly Wiggle Wednesdays: Hold a one-hour leadership meeting to refine sales tactics. Use the four D’s: define, document...

Feb 06, 202542 minEp. 285

How to Open & Close More Deals With Key Accounts | Maddy Jackson | Ep. 284 (Sell)

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Permission-Based Introduction: Identify an executive, then request an intro to their top lieutenant by tying outreach to an executive-level metric they care about. Funding Intent Matters: Don’t just track funding announcements—dig into how the company plans to use the money and align outreach to support that goal. AE & SDR Account Strategy: AEs select accounts, build a POV, and own outreach to execs, while SDRs focus on below-the-line contacts with AE guidance. Account Tier...

Feb 04, 202541 min

How to Protect Your Pricing | Johnny Larson | 30MPC Hall of Fame

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Know Competitors' Fiscal Periods: Be aware of when your competitors’ fiscal periods end to anticipate price drops and position yourself better. Phased Approach: When price matters, propose only the essentials for day one to make your quote smaller and easier to accept. Timeline Stack: Identify key timeline drivers, like contract end dates or business seasonality, to create urgency. Turn Want into Why: During discovery, dig deeper to find the real business problem behind a cu...

Feb 03, 202542 min

How to Build the Perfect Sales Team, Role by Role | Mark, Nick, & Armand | Ep. 283 (Lead)

Nick, Armand, and Mark Kosoglow talk through how and when you should make different sales hires as your sales team grows. ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Hire Builders First: Early sales hires should create processes, while later hires follow them. CEO Sales Involvement: Founders should sell until they define the product and process, then transition to AEs. Scaling Key Roles: Maintain a 1:1 AE to SDR ratio early, shifting to 2:1 later. Hire RevOps early; SE and enablement depend on need. Manager & Directo...

Jan 30, 202555 minEp. 283

No Champion, No Deal: How to Find and Develop Champions | Krysten Conner | Ep. 282 (Sell)

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Align Messaging to Roles: End users want simplicity, managers focus on team metrics, and execs care about goals and risk. Match your message accordingly. Use Credible Content: Share third-party sources like Gartner or HBR instead of only company case studies to build trust. Amplify the Problem Early: Send data or insights highlighting the problem’s urgency in the early stages of the sales cycle. Simplify Implementation Late: Provide resources like change management guides t...

Jan 28, 202541 minEp. 282

Tonality in Sales | Jeremy Miner | 30MPC Hall of Fame

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Facial Expressions Control Tone: Your facial expressions influence your tone. For example, leaning in creates a concerned tone, while tilting your chin up can convey curiosity. Slow Down Your Questions: Asking questions too quickly leads to poor answers. Slow down the second half of your question to give prospects time to think and respond meaningfully. Master the Five Types of Tone: Use different tones—curious, confused, concerned, challenging, and playful—to guide convers...

Jan 27, 202541 min

How to Train Teams on Discovery That Digs Deeper and Closes Bigger | Eleanor Dorfman | Ep. 281 (Lead)

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Ban Product-Specific Language: Prohibit product-focused terms like "roles-based access" in deal reviews. Instead, prompt reps to explore the customer’s "why" behind their needs, driving better customer questioning and understanding. Tie Incentives to Certifications: Require reps to complete critical certifications (e.g., discovery certification) to access desirable benefits, such as inbound leads, ensuring alignment between AE and leadership goals. Consistency in Value Fram...

Jan 23, 202540 min

The Ultimate 5 Stage Sales Process to Speed Up Your Deals | 30MPC Playbook (Sell)

Nick and Armand break down the perfect 5 stage sales process to get your deals closed fast. Stage 1 Problem Agreement: Ensure both parties align on the problem being solved before moving forward. Stage 2 Solution Agreement: Confirm the solution addresses the agreed problem effectively. Stage 3 Power Agreement: Secure buy-in from decision-makers and key stakeholders. Stage 4 Commercial Agreement: Reach consensus on pricing, terms, and conditions. Stage 5 Vendor Approval: Navigate internal process...

Jan 21, 202554 min

Winning Competitive Deals | Jason Bay | 30MPC Hall of Fame

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: In rip-and-replace deals, start by asking why the existing solution was chosen to understand the problems and motivations behind it. Late in the deal, confirm with your champion if you’re their top choice. Use their guidance to strengthen your position against competitors. When prospects compare you to competitors, suggest specific aspects to evaluate that highlight your strengths and expose competitors' weaknesses. In rip-and-replace deals, emphasize key product gaps that ...

Jan 20, 202540 min

The Sales Leader SKO Survival Guide | JD Miller | Ep. 280 (Lead)

FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Name Badge Optimization: Design name badges with legible names and role-based color coding. Bonus: add a fun fact to encourage interaction and make glancing at the badge feel natural. Post-SKO Follow-Up Plan: SKO momentum fades quickly. Implement a follow-up plan within days to sustain energy and carry it into the sales year. Session Energy Management: Use high-energy sessions earlier when attention is stronger. Save interactive or fun activities for post-lunch when en...

Jan 16, 202541 minEp. 280

How to Reframe Objections as Strengths | David Rosenstein | Ep. 279 (Sell)

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Get Permission to Reframe: Before turning a perceived weakness into a strength, ask for permission to tell the story. This keeps the approach authentic and avoids sounding overly salesy. Anchor High for Multithreading: When requesting additional stakeholders, ask for more than you need. If they say no to six but yes to two, you've still gained ground. Reframe Intentional Limitations: When faced with an objection or missing feature, consider if it’s intentional by design. Re...

Jan 14, 202540 minEp. 279

How To Actually Challenge Customers | John Barrows | 30MPC Hall of Fame

Join John's Newsletter FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Executive time crunch: If an exec only has five minutes instead of 30, ask, "What’s the one thing you need to hear to earn another meeting with your full attention?" Focus on that. Lead with a hypothesis: Instead of asking generic discovery questions, start with a hypothesis about their priorities based on research, showing you did your homework. Decision criteria: Prospects may focus on the wrong decision factors. Share a list of common criteria ...

Jan 13, 202539 min

The No-Exception Rule That Every Sales Leader Needs to Adopt ASAP | Eleanor Dorfman | Ep. 278 (Lead)

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: SPFs for Short-Term Change: Use SPFs to drive short-term behavior changes. Long-term shifts should align with consistent metrics in your "iron square" framework. Strict Holdover Rules: Allow one quarter for closing open opportunities after a territory change if they’re past stage two. No exceptions ensure fairness and consistency. The Iron Square: Track rep productivity with win rate, AE-sourced pipeline, total pipeline generation, and forecast accuracy, with quota attainme...

Jan 09, 202543 min

The Problem Proposition (Tone + Real Call Reviews) | Cold Calls to President's Club Course Preview Part 2

The cold calling course is here! (20% off with 20-OFF-YR1 before 01/10): https://clubpass.30mpc.com/cold-calls-to-presidents-club Actionable Takeaways The biggest mistake in The Problem Proposition: going through the motions instead of joining the pain. Join the ridiculousness of the triggering problem. Almost brush over your one-sentence solution. Shrug your shoulders during the interest-based CTA.

Jan 08, 202514 min

The Problem Proposition (Methodology) | Cold Calls to President's Club Course Preview Part 1

The cold calling course is here! (20% off with 20-OFF-YR1 before 01/10): https://clubpass.30mpc.com/cold-calls-to-presidents-club Actionable Takeaways No Value Propositions. Buzzwords make you sound like a telemarketer, and benefits fall flat without the context of a problem. Triggering Problem. Instead, lead with a problem so specific that it triggers your prospect and reminds them of a painful memory. One-Sentence Solution. If you get the problem right, all you need is one sentence to explain ...

Jan 08, 202517 min

Why Most Salespeople Fail at Discovery Calls (And How To Fix It) | Mark Nietzel | Ep. 277 (Sell)

ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Set Multiple Agendas: Before showing a high-level demo, re-establish the agenda. Explain what you'll show, present it, then recap by tying it back to the meeting's outcome. Dangle the Carrot: Identify one problem to address in your demo, then ask for two or three more use cases. Use curiosity to uncover additional discovery points before diving into the demo. Anchor to an Outcome: Start the call by setting a clear decision-oriented goal, such as determining if further evalu...

Jan 07, 202541 min