Hello! Hey! Welcome! Welcome back! To another spoo— She actually like moved with it you guys it was great. Yeah, I did hand work. It was no your whole body was going I know maybe you couldn't tell because you were just like feeling the spook inside, but I could see it I'll go back at 30 dirty good time October rages on and so does our existential dread so we're still here Yeah, but you're actually having a good day today. I slept well. I'm good. Yeah, I went to bed Not
super early either. I don't think I fell asleep until after one which is usual. Oh, that's late Well, I go to bed early, but I usually don't, I can't fall asleep. It's not usually the problem. I just don't sleep well, usually. But I woke up today and I felt pretty rested. I think it's because we did stuff yesterday. Like we, um, we were working on the house, like winterizing it, for lack of a better word, like sealing up cracks and redoing caulking and stuff. Ha, cock.
Ha, cock. It was white cock. Oh. Yeah. Well. I'm so sorry. I'll never get as much sleep again, guys. Don't worry. Yeah, she won't be this happy all the time. No, never. Once every eight months is what I said. Yep, that's about what it is. But no, so I think because we were like doing a bunch of stuff, I actually like was tired. Yeah. So I was like, even though I stayed up a little later, I just like was reading and stuff. And then I edited the podcast. So, you know,
reading books, being spooky as fuck. Honestly, I haven't been watching a lot of spooky things. I haven't really decorated because we had a kind of crazy start to October. Maisie hurt her leg. We'll take her to the vet. She's OK. You didn't tell me! Well, it was, it was like, we had to take her to the ER, like we thought it was gonna be really bad, and then they were like, she's fine. Uh, like she was walking around fine. But then we get her back home, and she's like, not
fine. I don't know, she had a regular vet appointment like a few days later, so we just kept that, and gave her the pain meds, and she's okay. I think she just maybe must have just heard it, like maybe jumping, it's... brain -ditter. I don't know. But so that was the whole thing. We had stuff to do for the house, like I said. My mom had some stuff going on I had to help her with. So like, I haven't had time. I haven't been home very much. I went to Palo Scream. Was
it now? Yeah, so like, we're normally very impressed. We haven't been for a little while. It's been a little bit. But I don't, like I don't get scared during haunted houses. No, you're fucking so cool. You're like... I don't get scared, but I want to be entertained. Sure. Dance with me. I don't have to be scared, but I want cool imagery and I want people to interact with me. That's how I feel about a lot of horror movies, too.
They're probably not going to scare me, but I want them to be good and entertaining and fun. Right, I want to be entertained. I wasn't even entertained. Yuck. So Mike and I walked through these and at the end we just looked at each other and we're like, that's it. It's just like a letdown. Yeah, normally like we didn't we don't go in with high expectations because with regular haunted houses It's normally like your group and they
can focus on that one group. Yeah, they're having like 50 people go in at a time Yeah, totally you you can't focus on one, but then you have to change your game up to be to be able to handle that all that many people at a time. And they just can't do that. And it's not their fault. They they're definitely like short staff, like they don't have enough scare actors. Yeah. And it's obvious because like we'll go into like three rooms and not see a single person. Right.
It's just it's a little disappointing. Sure. I mean, I can see that. So we were upset about that. That's the first haunted thing that we've done next. This weekend, we're going to North Carolina to see Melissa. Right. We're going to go to a haunted house there. And then the following weekend, we're going to go to Mike's Haunt. Which is not scary, but at least I'm entertained by him. Yeah, I think we're gonna try to do some
stuff around here that's fun. We might still decorate, because I leave my Halloween decorations up until I put my Christmas ones up. You know what I mean? So even if I'm late for Halloween, I don't care. It's still spooky season and we've got two more spooky episodes coming at you. This one. Hell yeah. This week and then next week is Halloween. This is Halloween, this is Halloween, Halloween, Halloween. And you know Halloween
falls on Thursday. So it will actually be our Halloween episode and we're gonna have a special guest probably. Yes. So keep that in mind when you tune in next week. But right now we're gonna continue on with our October fest. There's no beer. Well I've got some beer downstairs if you want some. I don't like beer. Alright. Well, fuck you too. Okay, rude, but fine, I guess. Why don't you tell the folks at home what we're doing today, Courtney? Because you're the head
ghoul in charge today. I don't like that. You're the head witch, head bitch. Go for it. Um, we're going to be talking about things that are creepy. Yeah, shit that creeps us out. Like, not necessarily scares us. I feel like it's similar to if people were around in season one for the, uh, or not season one, but our first, I think it was season two, the first Halloween block we did when we did the, uh, urban legends shit. Cause it was like not super duper scary stuff, but gives you
the willies. A little chilly release. And you did. You really took it to the limit for this. So I actually found a scholarly article. Yikes. That was called On the Nature of Creepiness. Francis T. McAndrew and Sarah S. cannot pronounce this. K -O -E -H -N -K -E. K. Yes. Sarah S. K. What's up Sarah? So I didn't go into super detail of their... scholarly article. I got the abstract. And then I also did a little research on uncanny valley. Okay. But I also just wrote things down
that creeped me out. Yes, which I think there are a couple funny things. But then I also Yes, I found a Reddit yikes. What a credit things that creep people out, which we'll get into sure. But I pick the funny ones. Got it. I'm not going to be scared, but I want to be entertained. Love it. So let's entertain the masses, Clarissa. All right, Courtney. Let's do it. Well, before we get into the creeps, let's creep ourselves out by just how long we've been alive and go
back in time. Back in time. All right. Today we're in 2010. A good year. A good year for both of us. We knew each other. Yes. I believe. I believe. Or probably near the end of 2010? Because I turned 16 and I got a job at the movie theater like as soon as I turned 16 is what I was gonna say. Same. Yeah. So I was fresh. I didn't even drive yet. Well, speaking of fresh, I was fresh on the Facebook. Yes! And, you know. It's about
damn time. It's about damn time. So... I put a lot of stuff on Facebook and none of this is like super duper ridiculous. But it is to me because it's like who gives a shit? That's what I think of when I read these posts. I'm like why did you think anyone cared? So I'm just gonna say a few. Please tell me. I'm just gonna warn you right now there are at least two or three, I don't know if we'll get to all of them, about the X Games. or about extreme sports. Oh yeah,
X Games! Yeah, because that was so cool. I'm different. X Games 16 ends with success. And then I put one of those smiley faces that was like the equal sign and the giant letter D with the multiple letter Ds. Oh my god. You know, because I was so happy about the X Games. Of all the things I could be doing, I'm watching house reruns. XD. I love house. I do too, but who gives a shit, you know? Is going to try this new thing called going to bed before midnight.
No one liked these. I just need you to know. Ran around in the pouring rain. It was exhilarating. I actually remember doing this. Was it exhilarating? Well, yeah. It was a downpour. And I put on my rain boots and put on a poncho, like a clear Mickey Mouse poncho, and said, I'm going to go outside. And my parents were like, what the fuck? No, you're not. And I was like, yes, I am. And I just ran outside. And we lived in a townhouse. So our neighbors, and one of the time I came
back in, I just ran up and down the street. An uncomfortable amount of my neighbors were standing at their front doors watching me and like smiling and laughing. I really entertained them, I guess, because they thought it was funny. And I guess I was probably just looking for attention. So I got it. I posted, if all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them? Absolutely. That was my 2010 post. cleaning out my bedroom so I can move it down to the basement. It's a
lot of work, but it's worth it. Going to the doctor and a swim meet later. Who fucking cares? See, that's what I mean. These aren't like ridiculously embarrassing, but I just don't understand why I felt the need. I feel the same way. I feel the same way. See, now you're on my level of embarrassing Facebook. Yeah. Um, you're everything I never knew I always wanted. Heart. Gross. Um, had a very eventful weekend, and I have a very busy and long week ahead. Hit the cell. Smiley
face. Hit the what? Hit the cell. HTC. So you text me. Oh, hit the cell, like the cell! HTC! That's so stupid! I put that after everything! Or text it with multiple Ts. Okay. You're the best thing that's ever been mine. Guess what? He wasn't. I don't got a motorboat, but I can float your boat. That's good. What an awkward day, especially in the last hour or so. No idea. One person liked it, and I have a feeling they didn't know either. I posted a picture of a bottle
of Snapple, because that matters. Wow, your glasses do not suit you there. Oh no, because they're not real. Courtney. They're not real glasses. I got fake glasses. They're not even big ass hipster lenses. Look, we don't have to - that was 2010. Big ass hipster glasses were more recent. It was starting. It was starting. In fact, I'll prove it was starting. Because you had them? Well, yeah, but I couldn't see. No, I found an
article. I say article. I found a Wikipedia entry that was literally called 20 tens in fashion. I don't know why this exists, but it does. And it was defined by hipster fashion, athleisure, and the revival of austerity era period pieces in alternative fashions and swag inspired outfits. I want to kill myself. But it's true. I mean, swag was happening, but yeah. Turn my swag on, take a look in the mirror, say what's up. Hey, I'm getting money. You want to know what some
of the most... Now this is the 2010s, but obviously it started in 2010. So, do you want to know what some of the most popular global fashion brands of the decade were? Please, because I'm sure I had one. Why don't you guess a couple? This will be fun, because you really were a basic bitch. Yes. Um, infinity scarves? No, brands. Brands. Okay, so I don't know if this was 2010,
but I was all about Ed Hardy for a while. Um, it's not on here, but Same I mean I didn't wear them, but I'm all the guys I had Ed Hardy Seat covers that said love kills slowly well That's true though, and then I also found a pair of Ed Hardy shoes, and I loved them and I wore them all the time Wow I'm basics like Abercrombie Hollister Abercrombie and Fitch Hollister yes, oh oh Charlotte ruse. It's not on here, but absolutely forever 21 is on here Okay, so I was never I
never went to forever 21 Oh, I did. I lived at Forever 21. I lived more, though, at Rue 21. Oh, yeah. In high school. I think Rue 21 was the cheap Forever 21. Absolutely. That's why I was there. Yeah, same. I remember, though, they had this perfume. I think it was called Eco. I don't know. It had a clear bottle and then the design on it was green. It looked like leaves. And I loved that fucking perfume. I wore it all the time. And honestly, I don't really
wear perfume now. I don't. But if I did, I always think I want that perfume back. So I can't be like, oh, the notes of Mahog - I don't know. I just like how it smelled. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paxon? I don't know. It's not on here, but you're super right. I know. So what's on there then? Because they're wrong. So you got Abercrombie & Fitch, Hollister, H &M, Louis Vuitton, those purses, though. Oh, yeah. Nike, Topman, I mean, Vans. Oh, got my hands on, but
they look like sneakers. Hell yeah. I mean, there are a few more, but those are the ones that we would know. The rest, I think, are for the bougie among us. The ones that we couldn't afford. Oh, totally. But yeah, I'm just okay. From 2010 to 2012 -ish. Skinny jeans, obviously. Galaxy printed stuff was all the rage. I had all of it, yes. Yep. Capri pants. Low rise pants. So glad we're
out of that. Maxi skirts. and maxi dresses those were i never until more recently i'm wearing the maxi dress i love it it's a nice dress i i wore maxi dresses all the time in the 2010s and stuff i just did like i was i was kind of like a hippie phase when i went into high school like i wore a bunch of hippie shit coming out of my emo which was not a phase because i'm doing it again now no phase mom uh well you want to switch gears and talk about some movies that
came out yeah movie me up okay shutter island you know I never watched that. I'm gonna try to name only like spooky shit. Okay, okay. Insidious. That came out in 2010? Oh, I feel like that - I thought that was newer. Nope. Oh. Black Swan. Oh, I wanna say that's spooky. That fucked me up, man. It's a psychological horror for sure. For sure. I don't know if that's what they were
going for, but it is. I saw that with Bob. Even scarier not really a spooky but Alice in Wonderland you remember the live -action they did Rajani death was the mad hatter it was a little see it's actually funny that you say that because that's in my uncanny valley that the Not beef is my head. What are their names? They were on the list of like movies and like media that are like considered like kind of uncanny Valley. Yeah. Tweedledee and Tweedledum from that movie
are on that list. Yeah, if I remember correctly, they are kind of weird and gross looking. Tucker and Dale versus Evil. Devil. It's M. Night Shyamalan. They did the remake of Nightmare on Elm Street. Oh, yeah, because I saw that instead of go to prom. The crazies. Never watched it. It was good. Um, I went to the people with the bags over their head. No, that's the strangers Oh shit. Yeah,
the crazies. Well, this is the little thing after a strange and insecure Weird what plane crash an unusual toxic virus enters a farming town. It basically turns people into like zombies and weirdos It's decent. I liked it. I saw it with my friends on their birthday. They're twins. So same birthday Anywho, so those were some scary things that happened in 2010. Do you want to know about scary tornadoes in 2010? Go ahead. Maximum rated tornado that year was a F4. Okay,
so just below the big boy. So there were 13 on eight different days. 13 is a spooky number. 13 is a spooky number. 1 ,266 tornadoes in the US. Wow. Fatalities in the US, 45. Elsewhere in the world, 62 people were killed, 51 in China, 6 in Argentina, 3 in the Bahamas. Wow. And 1 in each Bangladesh and Germany. You wanna know some shows that came out? Yeah. Victorious. I know you like that. My Little Pony, Friendship
is Magic. I'm just like, hmm. Sister Wives. I didn't watch it, but I wanted to talk about it. My strange addiction came out. Oh my god. Yeah, I literally the guy who or no, no, no. Okay. I remember the one episode where the woman drank bleach. Yes. And then the other woman ate her couch. Okay, so And is my strange addiction the guy who fucked his car? I don't know. Here's the thing, I didn't watch very much of it, but I want to talk about two things really quick.
One episode I am aware of is the one where the lady eats ashes. She likes to eat cigarette ash and etc. I never saw that one. So the only reason I know about it, and this is one of those things that are just stuck in my brain forever and I say it a lot, they talked about it on an episode of The Soup. with Joel McHale and they made fun of her and they showed the clip of her eating ashes and he's holding a bowl and it looks like ashes and he's eating it and he goes, I miss
you, grandpa. And it's one of my like favorite moments in the super so that explains why we're so fucked up Did you know that Trisha Paytas was on that? I'm sure she was she was addicted to tanning. Yep As soon as you said it I remember but yeah some of these when I was like looking up to make sure that it was the same Episode that I was thinking now for the soup thing the first season some of the way the way they title these episodes is insane I'm just gonna name
some of these from the first season. Please each toilet paper slash blow -dryer One guy has an addiction to toilet paper, one guy has an addiction to blow dryers. I don't know. Eats Cleanser. Hashtag, er, not hashtag, oh my god. Eats Cleanser slash tanner. So that might be the - Oh, Trisha Paytas was on episode two? This is three actually, but it says her name's Samantha, so I don't know if she gave herself a fake name or if this is a different girl. I don't know that. Ventriloquist
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creepy things. Okay, so, um, with the scholarly article that I had mentioned before, they were studying, it was an international sample of 1341 individuals to an online survey. And this online
survey apparently was on Facebook. It mainly, um, Perceive creepiness in individuals not necessarily things Okay, so it says that males are perceived as being more likely to be creepy well than females and Females were more likely to associate sexual threat with creepiness Well, yeah unusual nonverbal behavior and characteristics associated with unpredictability were also predictors of creepiness okay as were some occupations and hobbies okay the results are consistent with the hypothesis
that being creeped out is an evolved adaptive emotional response to ambiguity ambiguity ambiguity ambiguity. About the presence of threats that enables us to maintain vigilance during times of uncertainty I think that's fair like that makes sense to me what I think about creep. Yeah, it's not necessarily scary Yeah, cuz if something's scary, I'm like I get the fuck out of here Yeah, but if something just creeps me out it I'm not immediately gonna like fight flight freeze. I'm
just gonna be like On edge a little bit. Yes. And that ability to be on edge saves you in situations where you should flee. Yeah, I think it preps you to fight, flight, freeze, whatever your deal is. Because if you don't get creeped out, then you can't get scared and then something's wrong. It's like the next level. Yeah. But yeah, I feel like with creepy things, like I think about because you know, I consume a lot of spooky content and
I'm desensitized to a lot. Yes, but I feel like creepiness, I can't get desensitized to the things that creep me out always kind of give me that little. Yeah, like that little tingle in my spine. It's just a little eerie like, yeah, I'm never not gonna feel that. Yeah. When I'm like, whatever one of my creepy things are. So then I looked up at uncanny valley. Okay, so yeah, are these now? Are these your creepy things? Or are these
you're just saying some top creepy things? I'm just saying the research that I found about specifics. Okay, so these are like, what what uncanny valley is, and then I have like three examples of like media. Okay, I say three, because we already discussed one of them in our back in butt head. In our back in time. I feel like uncanny valley is it's creepy for everyone because it's a phenomenon.
Right. Yeah, so that makes sense. Yes. So but the funny thing is, I didn't realize it was this old is it was hypothesized that it originated back in 1970. Wow. By Japanese roboticist, in which he proposed that as human likeness increases in an object design, so does one's affinity for the object, but only to a certain point. When the likeness nears total accuracy, affinity drops dramatically and is replaced by a feeling of
eeriness or uncanniness. Affinity then decreases and increase caused by the feeling of uncanniness creates a valley in the level of affinity. That makes sense. So like this is why I think dolls creep people out. Yes, like a Barbie doll doesn't creep me out cuz a Barbie doll doesn't look like a person No, but like I actually have in my things that creep me out dolls. Okay, but like that's my specific old dolls Yeah, like the old porcelain
ones. Yes. Yuck. Yeah My meemaw bought me like a case of like a case like three or four of them when I was a kid They stayed in the basement. They were all like different cultures and stuff. I think she was trying to be nice because I liked learning about different cultures when I was a little kid. And now but like, but I was like, these are horrifying. Absolutely not. We got rid of them when my mom when we had like her
moving sale the last time she moved. Yeah. And yeah, I was like, if you don't sell these, burn them. I don't not carry these around anymore. I think the things that creep me out are more associated with the horror films. that's fair we'll get into it yeah um but anyways back to uncanny yeah sorry that was just my deviation no you said that i was like dolls um so originally the term was a Japanese phrase that was translated
at roughly to uncanny valley in 1978. Although the original essay focused on robot design, it term is now widely applied and can describe a reaction to any humanoid object, including wax figures, because that can get kind of weird. So it was actually it had very little attention outside Japan until 2005, when the essay was translated to English, the more realistic. Yeah, like Big Bird doesn't scare anybody. But some of those ones that are supposed to be people.
Yeah. I don't want to look at it too long. Because it's, I don't want to say it scares me. But again, it just makes me feel like I'm gonna vom. Yeah. So the the three ones that I have, well, there's a couple robots that are out more recently that look super realistic and make facial expressions. There's a robot. There's a robot. What's her name? I forget. But I know what you're talking about. She looks like Jenna Marbles. She does it. But they made all these videos. Sophia, Sophia,
the robot. That's it. Yeah, it's that's uncanny. Yeah, she's so realistic. Yeah. Polar Express. Why? Why people don't like Polar Express is because of like there have been times like I love Polar Express. I think it's terrifying. But there are times where I'm sitting there watching this. And I'm like, stop. Yeah, I'm just like, I for a second thought it was live action. Yeah, hate it. Hate it. Hate it. The original animation of Sonic the Hedgehog. Yeah, I've seen it. I've
seen it so bad. It's gross. I'm so glad we bullied them. Yeah, like us as a people. Good job, everyone to bully them into making Sonic the Hedgehog cartoonish. The movie Cats. Oh, yeah, that one. That was so... It was just, and it was underscored by how terrible it was. Oh, yeah, I can't. I refused to watch it after. You know how they're making Rugrats with CGI babies. Yeah, why the flick player from why the flick send that to our Instagram? She was like, oh my god. Did you
guys see this? I did not see that Yeah, I was like, oh my god gross because they're CGI and she was like, I didn't even notice that Oh, no, and the thing that what makes me really sad about just animation in general nowadays Like CGI used to be like really good. Yeah, and now it's getting really bad I think it's they're trying too hard to make everything realistic. Just draw Just
draw! I don't understand why animated movies have to all be - I know I sound like a boomer and I'm sorry, but like, just draw pictures! I mean, not everything has to be uncanny valley, CGI, just animated is fine. And if you can't make a movie without remaking a movie and trying to make it hip and cutting edge by making it CGI, maybe you shouldn't remake the fucking movie. Like Lion King? Zoo Tycoon. I don't know. Yeah, it's just like it's getting weirder because they
look weird. They look too lifelike. It's not it's not accomplishing what you think it is. Draw a fucking picture. You know, there's a reason. Everybody shows their kids Cinderella. They just drew that bitch and animated it. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. That's another and Kenny on Kenny Valley Valley animation Monster House. Oh, yeah, I saw that. It scared my cousin to death. It's such a weird animation. Yeah, I really liked it though. I don't think I've watched it. I need
to watch it. I remember watching it with my aunt and like my cousin who's like 10 years younger than me. But I thought it was cool. But it was kind of creepy. Yeah, it has that strain. It's like, I want to say a raw animation. But yeah, but it's not super polished. No. And I think that's what makes it and kind of goes into that uneasy type of feeling of animation. Hey, thanks for listening to 30 Dirty and Dying, the show
for millennials by millennials. We get real about chronic illness, burnout, nostalgia, and why we aren't exactly thriving. If that sounds like you, join us every Thursday for new episodes. Now back to the show. Okay, so now we're going to talk about what creeps us out. Yes. Courtney, kick us off and I'll jump in. Spiders. But I think it's more of a phobia. But I think what I hate most about spiders are their legs. I hate it. How they crawl. I feel them. This is a phobia.
This isn't creeped out. This is a phobia. I hate it so much, I hate it. Yeah, okay, phobia, but it also creeps me out. Old dolls, we just mentioned that. I think because of the movies that I watch and that they are possessed a lot of the times, I think that is why that they creep me out because I'm just that eerie feeling of like, are you
watching me? See, they creep me out too, but I would say it's more of the uncanny valley thing because the more they look like a person and the bigger they are and stuff, the worse they are for me. Um, because I had like, hordes of Barbie dolls, and I was never afraid of them. Yeah, I never I had so many Barbie dolls. But like, those big porcelain ones. Yeah, like even I liked American Girl and stuff. I never had an American Girl doll. I had one of the baby
dolls. But like, my sister had an American Girl doll. Yeah, but even then when I was like, would see them. If I had like a friend who actually had one of those, they did creep me out a little bit in person. Yeah, I was a little glad that I didn't get one after I had like a friend in I don't know, elementary school or something that actually had one. See, I was scared. I was never creeped out by American Girl Dolls. I still felt felt them as like, like normal. Like, okay.
Yeah. Yeah. It's just something about those like porcelain old timey, especially when they're like, they they're all messed up. Yeah, and they're more creepy. The older they are the stain. Like, if something's like rubbed off a little bit, maybe they're cracked. Yeah, that's when it gets creepy. You and me both, bitch. But like my you would have hated one of my aunts had one I think my meemaw got this for her. It was a Diana Princess Diana in like the wedding dress. It was huge.
It was like big enough to sit in a chair by itself like a big rocking chair in their spare room. And it's eyes, because they made it look like Diana's eyes. And she had those big blue eyes, you know, I hated that fucking thing. I hated that doll. I love you, Diana. RIP. But that doll because I would sleep in there when I was like, I hated it. And she was in that chair. And sometimes in the dark, it was like, is the chair moving? You know? See that that prompts my next one.
Go ahead. Okay, so this I specifically wrote. um, the sound of a creaky swing, but it also goes along with like a chair, a rocking chair. Yeah. Just that like menacing, like I got, I got some different ones. Okay. So like one of mine that just, this is just a concept that freaks me out. Okay. Being lost at sea. Not that I would get lost at sea. I'm not afraid of getting lost at sea. You understand, but just the idea that people get lost at sea. and are never recovered
and are just out there. Oh, they died. Yeah, but like, so they're fine now. It's just scary. It's so scary to me that I saw this. I'm trying to find like the statistic that I that made me think to talk about this. But like, there's a certain number of people every year, and it's a few hundred, I think. And that's just horrifying to me. Like, what do you mean? Like, where'd they go? How'd they get lost? I understand they die. But like, Why can't we just say they're
caught in a joke? What the fuck? Just it creeps me out. I'm not afraid of anything, but it makes me yuck. Like when I heard that fact, I wanted to throw up. Okay. Because where are they? Why can't they be found? Yeah, like okay, Billy drowned at sea. Sure, but they're not saying that. They're just saying Billy's gone. What the fuck happened? I don't know. And maybe that goes into Bermuda Triangle shit, because that also creeps me out a little bit. It's a creepy phenomenon. Yeah,
like, where do they go? Where do they go? Where did that wine airplane go? Yeah, that stuff. Yeah, the vanishing thing is a little scary. And I think the lost at sea thing for some reason is extra creepy for me. So that's definitely one of mine. Also mirrors. Is it because of Bloody Mary? No, I thought you were gonna say is it because of how you look in those like that would have been a sick burn. No, I would never say that to you. It would have been good. It would
have been funny. It would have been good. But I don't want to say that. Okay. Well, I was thinking Bloody Mary. But no, I don't know. Well, I think ghosts can come through mirrors. I've heard that that like, go like mirrors can be a portal for ghosts. But I don't know how much I really believe that. I don't I don't like mirrors. I don't I find them creepy. If there are too many mirrors around. So you don't go into mirror mazes. Absolutely
not. This is why but I think I can't be alone because this is why there are like mirrors, those rooms of mirrors in like a fun house or whatever. Because it has to creep people out. Yeah. But yeah, it's just like my mom always had a bunch of mirrors up in the house. And I just you know, that thing where you look up and you're like, what if there's somebody else? Yeah, it's like that all the time. Oculus? Sure. But no mirrors are just again, I'm not like no mirrors ever
scared to death. But if there are a lot of mirrors around I get a little creeped out or if I like Walk pat like if I'm home alone and I like walk past the bathroom mirror or like it's dark and I I just catch like a glimpse and I just am like What are some more yours children Wow Okay, there's yeah, you gotta get I gotta get specific with that. Okay, so um a child laughter Okay Some people find that sweet. No, it's menacing. I
don't like it. I think it's creepy But also think about being pregnant and Just your whole body Just moves all of your organs just move out of the way and like that's creepy Right. Yeah, I
guess that's disgusting Okay, it's creepy. But also the fact that like a baby just like is there and that's also is where just like if someone had a baby and it like it just is there and i just don't like it i mean you use a proper fucking now i can't explain it like inside them or like outside outside outside babies babies existing babies existing are creepy okay um because like they just like can't communicate with you But especially a child's laughter. That is what is
menacing, that is what I don't like. So you don't like when they can't communicate and you don't like when they can? Well no, laughter, they're not speaking words to me, they're just giggling and I don't like it. Okay, but a child laugh, they could tell you why they're laughing. That's true. I mean, I'm not a big fan of kids and they do scare me in scary movies, but I wouldn't say they like creep me out all the time. But also, they're the ones most likely to be possessed,
you know? Well, yeah. So like, just creepy, the creep factor is children. Lincoln all scary movies if there's a child in that movie that child is
creepy that child is scary. I can see what you're saying in the way of like when I think about creepy things like I said it's just things that make me a little on edge and I think about okay if I just saw something randomly would it creep me out and I guess all random kid just standing and I mean I don't mean like crying and like I can't find my mom like that's different but just calm and standing there across the way like in a field. that would be scary. Yes, that would
be creepy. Also, if a man was standing there, that would also that would be creepy. I also on my list, honestly, if anyone was just standing there creepy, like it's just creepy. That's creepy. Yeah. Because it's funny you say that because on my list, I have children, men and then people all valid points for all different reasons. Yeah, you know, I've got I've got another one that's people driven. Okay. And I think this is pretty
personalized. It really creeps me out to the point of like physical sickness when adults behave like children. And I don't mean like baby talk and stuff like to a baby or a dog or like that's fine. I mean like actually act childlike. Yeah, I find that horrific. I mean people who are fully of their faculties, you know, and do that by
choice. um it makes me like sick it like i can't even talk about it without i hate it i think some of that is for personal reasons um personal things i've experienced that um yeah that's one for sure for me that's very people behavior driven yeah you're talking about i just yuck you know fucking stop it don't do that yeah like because because why why are you doing that So I actually had this conversation with someone okay, um that a Person who grew up in a situation where they
were not? paid attention to okay, or the favorite, okay, um will grow up and have a family and then be Become the favorite So like they will treat as they are the ones to be paid attention to. Because their lack of in their childhood, they did not get that. So just narcissists? Yeah, I guess so. Okay. I mean, I could see how this like what I'm saying could be like a behavior that gets you attention. But I don't know. To me, it feels it feels gross. It feels like it
could very potentially be grooming. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's sort of the shit I'm like. I think that's what I'm associating it with. I'm not saying that's what everybody's doing, but it's like, just... no. Mm -mm. Don't like that. Yeah. Don't like that. Do you have any others? Um, I put my sleep paralysis demons. Well, that. I wouldn't necessarily... I would definitely say creepy. Yeah, I guess so. Like, if I think about them, I don't get, like, scared to death.
No. But it does creep me out if I think about it. That it happens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In the moment when I can't wake up, scared. Horrified. Um, but as I'm thinking about them specifically, I'm just like, I can't believe that happens. Yeah. And it's like, what's wrong with me? Um, it's I didn't put this on my list, but getting an MRI. Huh, really? Have you had an MRI? Yeah, I've had them. It just I think like I'm not claustrophobic at all. Yeah, I kind of am, but they don't fuck
me up. I don't care about, like being in confined spaces or anything like that, like bury me out. I don't fucking care. Bury me right now. But when I got into the MRI machine for the first time, yeah, I was creeped out a little bit. Okay. Why do you think that is though? I think so like for me, like I'm not huge by any means, like, yeah, but like, I would say, but so like, when I was in there, I was thinking to myself, if I was any bigger, I'd be stuck, I would be stuck.
So that, I guess that just that thought process in my head is what creeped me out. Okay, like I was fine after like a second. Yeah, but just like getting in there. I'm just like, oh shit fine So do you think it's the idea of being trapped more than anything else? But like I'm not claustrophobic. That's the thing though See, I kind of am but MRIs and like cat scans and stuff. Don't scare me like that. I don't know why I've had so many Yeah, like that first initial like going into
it. I was like, oh I can see why people who are claustrophobic. Yeah feel in this situation Yeah, it could be a little bit I know one for me that is gonna sound stupid, especially considering the home I live in. Stairs. This is the person with like five sets of stairs. That's literally what I just said. It's not just stairs, like just like my stairs in my house, but like a long stairwell, or like a really like where you can't really see the top. Okay. Or a really enclosed
stairwell or even like a spiral staircase. I think spiral staircases are cool. I'm not saying they're not cool, but they creep me out a little bit. And I think like, have you ever heard of that phenomenon? Stairs in the woods? Yes. So like that kind of thing, right? Because like just stairs? I don't know. Didn't we do that? Didn't we talk about stairs in the woods? No, we did not. I remember because I think I was going to talk about it and we ran out of time.
I kept it in. But yeah, the stairs in the woods thing that creeps me out. But then just that like, I think remember when we talked about the Winchester house. Yes, and I was real they just have stairwells to nothing and I was like gonna throw up Yeah, you're right. You were freaking out just it's weird to me. It makes me feel like what the fuck is going on with the stairs Yeah, I don't know. There's just something about not
being able to see where you're going. I don't know I can't explain it which is why there's something that creeps me out Yeah, but just stairs like to nothing or to where I don't know they it's creepy to me I was thinking about like something that I think it just happens in like phones and videos because like the frame rate and stuff. But when you see planes and videos that don't move, or like birds and videos that don't move, like I know it's the frame rate. I know it's
like it's not actually birds are real. Birds are part of the bourgeoisie. Um, that creeps me out. Yeah, like I, I in my head, I know of why that's a thing or like when you see a helicopter, but it doesn't look like it's spinning. Yeah. That creeps me out. Yeah, just that initial. Yeah, sensation. Yeah, is like gross. I get it. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that one that's more atmospheric and this for the last one. I'll say I guess but the because everybody knows mermaids. Speaking
of loss at sea. That's why I'm so scared of that because I'm afraid the mermaids got maybe mermaid man and barnacle boy one year. Sure. But no, one of the things it's more like atmospheric is being awake. period. Yeah, that's so creepy. As I was saying, it's actually funny I said that because it was it's not one that I wrote down. Yeah. But it was when I read about just being alive. And what is what is the purpose? Yeah.
Why are we here? existential dreads creepy. But no, I was gonna say, being awake, like in the super early morning, like, like, three, four, five. And I don't mean like up all night. Right? I mean, like you're awake. and you can't really go back to sleep. And it's not quite light outside, but it's not quite dark. And you feel like no one else is awake in the world. It's just it's
scary. I feel like the few times that I've been or even if I've been up all night, but it gets to that time, you'd think you'd feel better. I feel worse. Like, well, I think I get creeped out like if I wake up at like the same time. Yeah. like it's called like the witching hour is like three. Yeah, like 3am I think is the
witching hour. So like when you wake up at that time, like I get the like, yeah, see, I think more I'm saying like, a little bit later, like four, even into five, sometimes depending on it's just like, it just feels like you're not supposed to be up and you feel like really alone comes from the person who works normal. job time and not overnight, which Mike did. So he was up at five o 'clock in the morning. I've worked overnight a lot in my life. I've worked every
shift you can work, dude. I'm more comfortable at night. But when it gets to like that precipice of like night, day, morning, morning, yeah, it just something about it feels eerie. Like If you look outside the wind, it just feels weird. There's fog. Yes, it's just there's something about it that feels off. And I don't love it. I think I think because I was reading some stuff like people are talking about like the open ocean
with that like at night. Yeah. But that is my favorite time when I'm on like a cruise ship. Yeah, I can't I don't know is at night like when You can't see anything and it's just black and you feel the wind in your hair and it's quiet and there's nothing around you. It's the most calm that I have ever been. Until you hit the iceberg. But like that creeps people out. But I have never been more calm. Maybe I'm fucked up. Who knows we know you're fucked up. That's
why we do the show together. Um, no, I don't think because that's the thing about the lost at sea thing that I don't understand why it freaks me out. Because I'm not afraid of like the open ocean. Yeah, I've never been on like a cruise ship. So I don't guess I don't know. But the concept doesn't scare me. And I don't think that would scare me like being on a boat at night and at night. But yeah, I don't think that would scare me doesn't sound scary. But for some reason.
Just the concept of being lost at sea and that people that happens. I think people in general like just being Just disappear vanishing. Yeah. Yeah weird. It's weird. It's weird Well speaking of weird things you said you wanted to go out with some some reddit post. Let's so this is reddit It's r slash scary stories. Okay, now I don't know that we can read these verbatim. So just know it's not stories, but it's just specifics. Okay, specific things that creep people
out. So the post was what is something that creeps you out, but it seems normal for the rest of people. Okay. So this person said a clown waving with just their fingers. Totally clown period and clown period. See, I don't care. Fuck off. There's a skeleton in your body right now. Yeah, I like him. Yeah, but someone also said, and our brain is just meat with electricity. I've heard that before. That doesn't creep me out.
Um... Snakes, because they can swim, climb trees, and can be really fast, and they have no legs. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. They can climb trees? Yeah. They slither up the trees. I didn't know that. Yeah, they can slither up things. I knew the big ones could. Yeah, all snakes. But even... Okay. I'm still not afraid of snakes, but that makes me... What if they just jump out of the tree onto you? Have you never seen snakes jumping out of trees? No, where the fuck would
I see that, Courtney? Google it. No. Not now. This is funny. People that don't wash their legs. The type of people that just let the soapy water run down their bodies and say it's clean. Dude, I'm gonna say something right now. People that don't use like a washcloth or a loofah or something. They just raw dog the bar of soap. Yeah, what the fuck? That has never been my reality. Like, we always used washcloths or loofahs or sponges
or something. Yeah. What the fuck? I don't use a bar of soap, for one, because I don't like how it makes me feel. Yeah, and they can dry you out. But when I was back in the earlier 2000s of the 90s, when it was like you used a bar of soap, probably - Irish Spring! Yeah, we had a
fuckton of that. We had a - at least a washcloth yeah like oh and you would rub it on the washcloth and then get sudsy and use your body yeah i who's doing this i don't know who is it because like lufas are like two dollars fucking come on clean yourself jesus christ it's not leather and i'm not clean yeah what yeah uh but the legs thing i wouldn't say creeps me out but it makes me question you as a human yeah same with like is it like feet Yeah, wash your feet wash your feet.
Um, we have to work until retirement. This actually goes into what I said being pregnant and slowly getting bigger and stretching as the baby grows inside of you. I will say though, after you we were talking about because you're saying a lot of things at once that was like, Whoa, but but it is kind of when I think about it coming out. It's it's a little scary that it could just like rip you open. No, but like also see sections now I'm not opposed I think it in some ways I'm
like, that sounds great. Talk me out wake up. It's done. You're not sleeping. They can do it. But you know, they take your organs out and put them in your balls. And then Because your organs moved! I know, but that's spooky to me, because I don't know why I saw that the baby would just be like... Up there? Yeah. Ready to come out of the stomach? I didn't think it'd be like you get a paper cut and its hand comes out, but I thought you wouldn't have to move a bunch of
shit. Yeah, you have to move a bunch of shit, man. I don't know about that, you know? Anyways, go on. Cotton balls. I get it. I don't like cotton... Stop! No, I don't like cotton balls at all! I don't know who's read it, but maybe I should find that guy and make a club. No, I hate it. So the person I remember I didn't write this like I didn't copy and paste this down. But I remember that this person wrote not necessarily the ball itself sound ripping it apart. My guttural
reaction. No, it's true. And the sound it makes and how it feels on your fingers. I always thought this was my OCD. But because I have a thing about textures, but like, No, I have to use like cotton rounds. They're like, yeah, I can't buy cotton balls. Oh, we have cotton balls at home. Don't bring them here. Um, so this person put the second law of thermodynamics. I'm sorry, I'm not familiar. So the state of entropy of the entire universe as an isolated system will always increase over
time. So that concept means that the world around us, the universe itself, is inexplorably decaying. Alright, hit me with one more. Banger Courtney, what's the creepiest one on your little reddit? I don't know if I should say this to you because of your AC say it I don't care. Okay, I'll throw up There are tiny mites that live in your eyelashes. I'm aware of this. I pull my hair out They can't they can't get me. Okay, I'm kidding. That's
not why I do it. They're called demodop demodix But also the last one jello They said, I don't know why, it's the way it shakes, I guess. Literally what they said, jello dot dot dot. Doesn't scare me. The one that creeped me out the most was the eyelash mites. No, that doesn't creep me out. I'm aware, because of my OCD, I've done a deep dive on everything that can be on your skin and in your hair, and I'm very aware of it, and it's fine, we coexist. It was the second
law of thermodynamics for me. No, for me it's the cotton balls. Just know that I am understanding. I will not go into it. But yes, Google snakes jumping out of trees. No, I'm not gonna do that, Courtney. Why would I do that? Why would I scare myself more? Just slither a little, snake -snake. Well, those are some things that creep us out. Give us the willies, if you will. I'm a creep. I'm a weirdo. What the hell am I doing here? I don't belong here. Well, you do belong here
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