Hello! Hey, what's up? I'm Clarissa. I'm Courtney. This is 30 Dirty and Dying, your favorite millennial podcast. Happy Halloween! It's Halloween! Welcome to our Halloween episode. All October long we've been doing Halloween and spooky season themed episodes, but this bad boy actually is airing on... The E, the, the hollow. You're really killing
it today. I think I was trying to say like all hollows E. Well, I think, I think you're nervous because we have a special guest in the room and you guys are going to get to be introduced to him in just a little bit. But what are we doing today? We're going to talk about the movie Trick or Treat. We're reliving Trick or Treat. Trick or Treat. Yep. It's a Halloween movie for a Halloween episode. It came out in the 2000s. So it's everything
you love us for. Nostalgia, spooks. Apparently, millennial chaos that Courtney is bringing single -handedly today. All right. All right. Well, should we... I don't want to take... Get this Halloween party started? Yes, let's start the Halloween party. We should have dressed up. I mean, I'm dressed up as sad. No one can see us. Why the fuck would we dress up? For us. I mean, I've got some masks. Oh. No, not sex ones. I
don't do that. Happy Halloween. And we have a movie to get to, so why don't we get to back in time? So let's get this party started. Back in time. All right. We're in 2008. Not 2009 and not 2007. Absolutely not. We're in 2008. Trick or Treat came out in 2007. A lot of times we try to do the year of whatever we're living, but we've already done 2007 this year. And I looked it up. I did a little research because I never watched this movie until this. So this
is not reliving for me. It's just living. just white knuckling through and i guess it didn't have like a super wide release like it was it came out in 2007 but not the way regular movies do yeah i don't think it was in the movie theater i think it's just like street what what i looked up it's you know what it's on the wikipedia page hang on i'll just tell you why i came up with 2000 The first public screening took place at this film festival in 2007, and then subsequent
screenings included, and then most of them were at these festivals and things in 2008. But there weren't, it wasn't like a large theatrical release, it was just like certain screenings, and most of them took place in 2008. A few of them in 2009, and then direct -to -DVD, so it didn't even get to your DVD player until 2009. Maybe that's why I thought it was 2009. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Anyways, we're talking about 2008. Yes. So, why don't you tell us about it, Courtney?
Go ahead. Um, I lost my virginity. Wow. Wow. Why don't you tell us about it in excruciating detail? I don't think I want to. I don't mean, like, fluid detail. Ew! Yeah, exactly. That's not what I was talking about. Okay, well, then what were you talking about? I don't know. I was just, in general, talking about it. See, the thing is, though, I don't remember how I felt about it. You don't? No. Though that's, I mean, I'm surprised, though. You've told me
about it before. Yeah. But you don't remember your feels? I don't remember my feels. Do you remember what prompted it? Like, was it spontaneous? Was it planned out? It was not planned out. Well, sometimes, I don't want to say kids like kids, but, like, young folks will plan out something like that because they think it's a, you know, important occasion. Well, okay. Especially if they've been raised religious. Well, so, I mean,
I kind of was. But I... We had a conversation that I wanted to make sure that I loved the person. So we were together at that point for like a month. Okay. And we were like making out and things were happening. Love was growing. And I was, I, we just looked at each other and we're like, I love you. And I'm like, all right, let's go. It's just words, ladies and gentlemen. Was it, was it nice? I don't remember. Oh, you said you didn't remember feelings. I don't, physical,
sure. But I'm just saying, was it everything you hoped for? Don't remember. So probably not then. I'll say just for memory's sake, it was wonderful. So, mid. Well, I mean, first time's never great, right? Was it the guy's first time too? Yeah. Anywho, you want to know something that happened in 2008 that I wanted to talk about? Yes, please. Did you ever watch The Soup? I know I've asked you this before and I forget every time. Okay. So there was a clip on The Soup,
I was a big fan, called Spaghetti Cat. Do you know what this is? No. Because it also made rounds on, like, the internet and other TV shows, so I didn't know if maybe you... No. Okay, so apparently on this morning show, they were talking about drunk driving, and they had some people there who, I guess, drank and drove and lived to tell the tale. And for some reason, it just cut to a picture of a cat eating spaghetti. And then they did not speak about it. The host didn't.
Nobody said anything about it. Except for the soup. And it was a really famous soup moment. It kind of, like I said, made the rounds. And I remember it. And that happened in 2008. Wow. Yeah. Spaghetti Cat was born. They did talk about it like a week later after the soup brought it up. So there's that. There's that. Anything else, Courtney? Yeah, 2008 was when I started working at the movie theater. Okay, so movies. Let's talk about some horror movies that came out.
Twilight. Disturbing and terrible. The Strangers came out in 2008. Okay. You know, I just watched that the other day. I never watched it all the way through. It sucks. Yeah, I don't know if I've watched it all the way through. It's not good. People hype it up a lot, and it sucks. Cloverfield. I remember that. Yep. The Happening. Okay. Oh, Saw V. There's too many of those. I like the Saw movies. I really don't. Although, do you remember this? This could not have been
2008. This must have been like years before this. But do you remember for one of the Saw movies, they did this marketing campaign that was like on regular TV, like during commercials, they would just throw Jigsaw's face on there for a split second. And then it would just go back to whatever commercials were happening. No. And then they didn't address it. Just like Spaghetti Cat. Yes. Honestly, yes. Until like whatever show or movie you were watching was over. And
then they would do a full. like, preview or whatever Saw movie it was. Do you remember this? No. I remember it. It was fucking horrifying. You'd just be sitting there watching, like, I don't know, My Girl or some shit, and then, like, Jigsaw's face, gone. You're like, that can't be real. I didn't see that. And then it keeps happening for two hours. I need to Google that. I want to Google that. I want to look at YouTube. I want to see if they have it. See, and I just
remember it happening. So, like, I don't know. But, well, I know that Don't Trust Me came out. I don't even have to look that one up. So we'll do a billboard. Top 100 hits. Lollipop. Lil Wayne. You probably loved that song. I did. I did. Why do you say it like that though? Because you were a big fan of whatever was on the top 100. I was. At all times. Which is fine. Love in this club. Pocket full of sunshine. I got a pocket full of sunshine. I kissed a girl. I kissed a girl
and I liked it. Taste of her cherry chapstick. Okay, well, those are some hits, and now I guess we should throw it to our special guest for the weather. It's a little sunny outside today. But it wasn't in 2008. Hi, I'm Mike. I know it's been a while. It's been a while. It has. I only come on for spooky stuff, apparently. No, you came on for a Valentine's Day episode also. Yeah,
I love. I think that might have been... No. The last time he was on was for music trivia, millennial music trivia, which was like probably over a year ago at this point. It's been a minute. Yep. I've been tasked with giving you the tornadoes from that year. Twist us up. You call him daddy. I feel weird. On May 25th in Parkersburg, New Haightford, Iowa, there was an E5. EF. F5. Wow, you're really killing this weather report, dude. Sorry. 400 homes were damaged. That's spookier.
21 commercial buildings, including City Hall. City Hall? They're going to take City Hall. So I'm really glad you made me do that. How many tornadoes happened in the year? Did you already say that? Was I not paying attention? No, it was about 1 ,600 in the United States. 1 ,600 in the U .S.? That's crazy. Hundreds. Hundreds. Thank you for twisting me up, Daddy. All right, well, now we're going to twist out into the show for today. Listen to this brief message, and
we'll be back in a second. Hey, thanks for listening to 30 Dirty and Dying, the show for millennials by millennials. We get real about chronic illness, burnout, nostalgia, and why we aren't exactly thriving. If that sounds like you, join us every Thursday for new episodes. Now, back to the show. All right, so we're talking about Trick or Treat. Trick or Treat. Trick or Treat. And the reason is, it's Mike's favorite Halloween movie. Is
that true, Mike? Because she says that a lot, and that was her reasoning, but is it really? Well, it probably is my favorite Halloween movie. Okay, fair. There's not a lot of actual Halloween movies. Actually, you know what? Yeah. Yeah, and then, like, Hocus Pocus. It's Halloween. Halloween Town. Yeah, that's a good one. But there's not a lot. Yeah, most of them are just haunted shit. Yeah, it's up there. I believe a cult classic is appropriate for this. That's
what it said on Wikipedia. So that's gotta be true. Well, so I never watched it, but so I guess I'm living, not reliving, but you guys are reliving. So I watched it last night. I watched it last week after you told me to watch it literally the same day. Were you a fan? I'll get into it. No, but I didn't hate it. I just, I thought I was going to hate it until like the last like 30 minutes. So then I was okay with it. Interesting. We'll get into it. We will. But before we do,
let's talk a little bit about what it is. And I'm going to leave it to you two because you're the experts. So Trick or Treat is like an anthology of four short stories about the spirit of Halloween and maybe some rules around it. All of the stories
kind of go together. They're like kind of... tiptoe across each other but they don't really relate yeah they intersect yeah intersect of course and i intersected our hands in front of her husband whoa i mean we we were married first yeah we were no you're all um no so i i had never watched it but i think i think my main beef with it to start out was, I don't think, I don't think anthology is the right word. It's not you guys.
It's like, it was on there too. Cause at first I was like, Courtney, not knowing what anthology is. And I looked it up and I was like, no, that's what they called it. Yeah. Like when I think of an anthology, I think of something that doesn't have to connect like separate stories. I don't think of like, they don't have to connect. Yeah. But I just, I don't, I don't know. I guess I just don't think of anything that does. I just think of like standalone things. And to me, it
wasn't really that. I think it's kind of in the middle, right? Yeah, I can see that. It's not like a true anthology. That's very true. But I think all of the stories in the movie could be separate. Yeah. I mean, I could see them being separate, but I guess I just... I think they chose to pull it all together to seem like a cohesive movie. Which I liked the cohesion factor. That's what I mean about like... I ended up liking
it at the end because it all came together. But if they were just standalones and they didn't do that coming together thing, I think I would have hated it. So then can I like it as an anthology? I don't know. I like it. You like it? There are some parts that I don't like. So are we starting with shitting on it? Sure. Okay. Go ahead. Are you surprised? Look at your face. No. What scenes do you think Courtney doesn't like and that Courtney can confirm or deny? Any of the sexual ones.
What? Why? She reads porn exclusively. Now? I re -listened to an episode from a long time ago, and I literally have you saying, and I screen -capped it because I needed it, you saying, like, I don't want to read smut. I think smut is the worst. You need to send that to me. I will. I saved it. So you don't think the sexual scenes would be her bag? Now? These ones are, they're not, they're pretty mild. I can't even think of any. Well, the first scene, there's like a
small porn section. Oh, is there? I don't even remember that. The guy fell asleep and then when he woke up, porn was on. Yeah. No, I remember now on the TV. Yeah. I was thinking like between the characters. Oh, not really. I mean, not really, right? Nothing. Super explicit. So that's, I disagree. Okay, so that's not one of them. Do you have any others that you think she would hate? I literally verbalized it last night. No, I don't remember. Oh, wow. He really cares. When
the kid's throwing up. Oh, yeah. That was excessive. It kind of was. The gurgling sounds. I hate it. No, actually, when we were watching it, I do remember Justin and I, like, we were watching it. Yeah. And then... It just kept going. Yeah, and one of us, I don't remember which one, said, like, well, this has been happening for a while. And it does. It's aggressive. Yeah, it's too much. It's gross. It's a little gross. The sounds don't help. No. And also, like, what the fuck
was he eating? Well, it was a chocolate bar. Yeah, but it looked... Right, which is, I think, my problem with that scene because it looks like chocolate. It looks like chocolate milk. But then when the killer is, like, pulling him away, he's, like, covered in blood. Yeah. So it's not, like, quite, like, it seemed weird. Yeah. Yeah. No. Okay. So I don't like that part. Nice sound effect. That would have been better. Done. So that's one scene though. Yeah. It's like one
25 second clip. Yeah. I hated it. Which is really long though. It was so long. It was way too long. It was like half the movie of throw up. I do think it was like, I turned it on and I was watching it and Justin wasn't really like dedicated to sitting down and watching it with me. So he was like, I don't know, just fooling around. And then he sat down and we said that. And then. He was just like, what the fuck? Why are we watching this? And I was like, it's research for the podcast.
It's Mike's favorite movie. And then he was like, this is Mike's favorite movie? That's not my favorite. I know. Favorite Halloween. Halloween movie. I know. I just said it. But like, he was judging you hard during that vomiting scene. And I am one person to accept that sometimes what is my favorite isn't like overly all great. It's not like an overly all great movie. Okay.
What? And I don't give you shit about that. But you give me shit about all my favorite movies, even though they're not overall great, but they're great to me. And you say they're horrible movies and give me shit about it. They really are. And so is this. Yes, but I... Well... I wouldn't say it's a horrible movie. I thought it was going to be. I was ready to be on your team. It's middle. Oh, I don't mind it. Would you rather watch this or Boss Baby? This. Thank you. 100%. I've never
even seen Boss Baby. I would rather watch this. Because again, that's a wild thing to say that her favorite movie is Boss Baby. My favorite movie is not Boss Baby. What is it now? Because you change it a lot. It's in my top favorite movies, yes. Give me your top three right now. Top three? Favorite movies ever. And we'll see what Mike thinks about them. I like that this is becoming so much less about trick -or -treat and more about your marriage. I like how you
say trick -or -treat. Well, that's how it's spelled. I don't know. Twister? Twister's good. It's not great. It's fine, though. It's fine. Jim Carrey's The Grinch? Okay. That's fine. I mean, it's fine for a Christmas movie. It's okay. We can really argue about Twister, but that's not what this is about. If you want to have me on later. Look, I can tell you right now that it's not realistic at all and it's ridiculous. But it's a fine, okay movie to watch. Right. I think I would have
been okay with Twister if it was like that. Okay. But they do both. Like, it's like, oh, this big tornado. It's so powerful. It's the most powerful tornado we've ever seen. Not as powerful as my belt, though. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I hate that part, too. It's stupid. It's like what I'm saying is, like, it's not, like, it's like, oh, we gotta save the characters. I mean, they killed the characters in the new one. They did? Uh, yeah. I didn't watch it yet. I told you we didn't
get to know. I mean, honestly, I will say it is kind of a shitty disaster movie if no one dies. Because people die in disasters. Right, I don't think anybody on screen in the original would die. Just that bad guy. Yeah. But everybody won it. I was thrilled when he died. Well, yeah, what the fuck. I mean, he was a bad guy. Anyways, trick or treat. Yeah, trick or treat. Pretty much the throw up was like the worst part. Awful. Didn't need to happen. So then what do you like
about it, Courtney? I like Sam. Sam's a little pumpkin head bitch, right? Pumpkin head bitch? I use bitch as a term of endearment and you know it. I call you bitch all the time because I love you. Love you, bitch. Love you, bitch. Love you, bitch. Which again goes back to being called classic because now when you walk into like Spirit Halloween, he's everywhere. Yeah. And now I know who he is. See, because I've seen him before,
but I just never really knew who it was. I assumed it was a movie I hadn't seen or it was just some Halloween -ish character that, you know, like generic. Sam. Yeah, I liked him though. I will say the last scene where it's like just him versus old guy, I could have watched the whole movie that was just that kind of shit. Just him attacking
people. That was great. That's what made me like the movie was him because it was funny, but it was also a little bit, it's just scary enough, like not scary, but you like the jump scare thing because when he's just like right there and it was just, it was just good. I could have watched the whole movie of just that. I think what I like the most about that scene is the change of his size when he's fighting. Oh, yeah. Because
he's like this little kid, right? Yeah. But for the fighting scene, it's literally like an adult acting as Sam. And he's just like this big guy on top of the old guy. And then all of a sudden he's small again. And I think that's one of my favorite parts. The power of Halloween. The power of Halloween. Can make you grow ten sizes. Well, I think that's what he embodies, right? Is the spirit of Halloween. That's what I thought. He just wants people to follow the rules of Halloween.
That's the whole point of the movie. Yeah. And if you don't, he kills you. Actually, I have one more thing that pisses me off about that movie. Go ahead. But not about the movie itself. Okay. But that bitch in the very beginning who's saying, let's take the decorations down now. Yeah, what the fuck? Dumb. It's the middle of the night. One. Just leave it. Get it in the morning. I wouldn't do it either. No. She also mentions that they were both drunk. Like, why
are you going to do that when you're drunk? Like, at that point, she's the one that I'm like, I'm glad you died. Yeah. I'm glad you died. You deserve this. You know, sucks to suck. But, like, who the fuck? And that many decorations. I could see if you just had, like, I don't know, like, someone over your front door or a wreath, and you're like, fuck it, let's take this inside. There's too much decorations. They had a fucking
interactive display. And she's like, let me dissemble this in the dead of night on Halloween while I'm fucked up. Absolutely not. That was so dumb. Just go inside. We leave our Halloween decorations up until our HOA yells at us. I love that for you guys. And we keep adding to it. We're soon going to be one of those houses. We're like the only house in our neighborhood that has decorations. I saw a few when I drove through the other day. Feeding your animals, not just stalking you.
It doesn't matter. Well, I want other people to know. I won't just randomly drive through Courtney's neighborhood without being invited. I'm like a vampire like that, you know? Thank you. Like hearing about haunted histories from around the world? Are you intrigued by the misinformed one cases in America where people vanish without a trace? Or just want to hear about spooky stories of UFOs, Bigfoots and other cryptids? Then this
is the podcast for you. Sit back and relax every other week where we investigate these cases together. Just search the Spooky Island Radio podcast wherever you listen to your podcast to join the investigation. And with all that said, I just have one question. Do you believe in ghosts? I've really, as I've grown older, I like practical effects a lot more. Okay. Just because I think CG, I hit a peak in like this time. Yeah, I would agree with you.
It's really gone downhill. I would agree. So going back and watching movies with practical effects is... Yeah, or like a nice happy medium of like... And you can appreciate the camp a little bit more. I feel like when CGI was at its peak in the 2000s and the early 2010s -ish, people were so impressed by that that when we looked at more practical effects or even shitty older effects, we just wanted to shit on them.
But now that they've done too much with CGI, we can appreciate... them good and bad yeah like i really like going back and watching hitchcock's the birds for that reason because they are just throwing fake birds but and now i can appreciate that i wouldn't want them to remake the birds and use cgi that would be fucking terrible it takes away from the charm so i can i can agree with you about this one i really like the effects of the werewolf scene yeah that was fucking dope
that's when i was like maybe i like this movie yeah i mentioned that last night i was like i think this is a like as far as like werewolf transition yeah from people to wolves it's it's up there it was better than twilight for sure again bad cgi yeah just big ass dogs big ass dogs yep bella where the hell you been loca but no i liked it a lot and i thought it went on for the appropriate amount of time Like, it wasn't a super long transformation scene, but it wasn't
so quick that you didn't get to appreciate all the little, like, details. Yeah, I remember when I first started watching, when I first watched it. I wasn't quite sure what was, obviously, I didn't know what was happening. Yeah, me neither. Because when I first saw the things, I'm like, oh, they're vampires. That's exactly what I fucking thought. Okay, cool. And then all of a sudden, they're stripping their skin. And I'm like, what the fuck is happening? Yeah, I was like, oh,
so like Nosferatu vampires? Like, we're getting gross? And then I saw fur. Yep. And I was like, well, probably a dog. But no, I liked it. I thought it was a nice, I don't know if twist is the right word, but I liked that they were werewolves. Because you would expect a bunch of hot girls. To be... Vampires. Witches. Or vampires or something. Yes. But to be werewolves was... And still hot. Cool. Yeah, and that was kind of the play on that story too, right? Where it was like, you
know, shy girl trying to get a guy. Her first time. Yeah. Trying to get a guy. Speaking of virginity. Speaking of virginity. Yeah. And so... It was like a... It was kind of a turnaround. Like a twist within the twist of... Oh, it's the turnaround of her being... Yeah. It took you by surprise a little bit. And I thought it was hilarious when she was like, it's my first time, so bear with me. And she's already a wolf.
And that it was the bad guy who kills kids. Which I liked the twist that his son was a part of it. Me too. I was like, oh shit. I thought he was going to kill his kid. Because, I mean, honestly. That's what they set it up. I wasn't going to say that. I was just going to say that's what they wanted you to think clearly. That he was going to kill the kid. But then, And when he's training his kid to be the next... Murderer. Yeah. Murderer. Well, they all kind of had a
small twist to it. Yeah. Except for the one. I think the... The kids. Yeah, the school bus. The ghost kids. No, it's not fucked up. Yeah, I think that was kind of the point. Yeah. But there was no real twist. You kind of saw that all the way through. Well, and I feel like that's when I started to think I'm really going to hate this. Because it just got a little, like, boring for me. It went on a little bit too. I just didn't... Yeah, I would say that story is... Probably the
worst of them all. Yeah. I mean, I like that it came back around and, like, the old guy's the bus driver or whatever, but, like, actually just watching it was just, like, boring and... Yeah. That's when I was about to... I was like, I'm gonna shit all over this movie when Mike gets here next week. That was just, like, a ghost story to me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that embodies Halloween, too, is, like, sometimes it's, like, gore and, like, horror and stuff, but other times
it's just ghost stories. Well, and that's one thing I did appreciate about the, like, pseudo anthology of it like there was the what you think is just going to be a basic teen slasher and like virgin dies first with the girl and there was supernatural creatures with the werewolves there was just a good old -fashioned ghost story there was um like a slasher character in sam in the last scene and then there was like a just a crazy fucking guy killing people with the first
guy and then i don't know the first scene i guess just Idiots. Yeah, just dumb. Yeah. Yeah. Do you guys remember the rules? The Halloween rules? Because I don't know if I remember them all. Leave your pumpkin on. Yeah. Leave your jack -o' -lantern until it's midnight. Give candy out. Okay. There's two big ones. Yeah, look them up. Because I don't remember. Because, like, at some point, I think I got kind of disillusioned with it. Check your candy. Check your candy.
That was the first one. Because of the kid. Because of the kid. Yeah. Because, like, I paid attention to the first, like... the intro where they say the rules, but then at a certain point I got a little, like, like I said, there were parts I got a little bored with in those first few, so I stopped connecting the dots to that opening. Yeah. So I don't, I didn't, like, commit all of them. Well, that. Uh, wear a costume. Okay. Pass out treats. Who didn't wear a costume? Was
it the guy at the end? No, he wasn't handing out candy. He wasn't handing out candy, which is why Sam attacked him. But because the candy was there when he went to stab him, that's, like, his giving candy. Yeah. So he let him live. Yeah, but who wasn't wearing a costume? That I don't remember. I don't think that was the focus. Okay. I just didn't know if, like, there was one that... Because, like I said, I didn't really... I mean, I guess the woman was kind of, like, she took
off her costume. I guess. I mean, Vomit Kid also wasn't. Oh, yeah. I don't know if it actually comes out and says most of them. Because I know at the beginning it said the list, and I didn't know if it was, like... they all go back to it or not. Cause I don't know. I just didn't pay close enough attention, I guess. But really the first, we keep saying four stories. The first one's like a half. It's like an introduction. Yeah. It's the introduction and the ending really.
For one, always wear a costume. Rule two, always pass out treats to trick -or -treaters. Never blow out a jack -o' -lantern before midnight. Always check your candy. Always respect the dead. Never take down your decorations before November 1st. Never hurt the innocent. Okay. So there's multiple. So the woman attempts to take down decorations early. And the jack -o -lantern. So she makes it clear she isn't a fan of Halloween, even blowing out the jack -o -lantern. Yeah.
So there's two right there. Bam. Always respect the dead. School bus. Right. The costume's the only one that's... Not... That I can't remember. I mean, some of the guys with the werewolves weren't wearing costumes because they were part of the news crew. Yeah. I think that's a stretch. Well, and I mean, I think I could be getting way too meta on this, but I mean, the killer guy who ends up being the werewolf's victim, I know he had like a cloak on, but he was the
killer anyway. So was he really wearing a costume or was he just dressed up as himself? Well, I think he was supposed to be a vampire. All right. Well, he still ate people. Yeah. So is that really, that's not really a costume. It'd be more of a costume if he dressed up as like a nice guy. Again, could be too meta, but that's literally the only thing I can think of. Except for maybe that kid who didn't check his candy. Yeah, I mean, obviously, like, there's multiple for each,
so. So which, so with the rules, which one do you guys think you're most likely to break? If any. And don't just, I mean, think about it. Never wear, or always wear a costume. We don't always dress up. Yeah, me neither. I haven't dressed up in a couple years. We dressed up last year. Yeah, we dressed up last year. Oh, yeah, for your trick -or -treater thing? When no one comes into our neighborhood. Sorry. I would think mine would be the jack -o' -lantern. We don't
always do jack -o' -lanterns. I don't think I've ever done one as an adult. Like, one that you actually... An old -fashioned one, like, with a candle in it. Yeah. I don't think I've done that. Also, for me, this year, the decorations. Because I didn't even put them up. A lot of people are putting them out. I know. I literally said that on our way to your house. Why does no one have decorations? Okay, well, I never had outside decorations because I always lived in apartments
and shit. So I just didn't have the real estate space for it. And this year I was thinking about doing it. I told you that on a past episode. And I didn't even decorate inside. I put out my bowl of candy and that was fucking it. I don't know. The first two weeks of October were fucking nuts. And I didn't have time and I didn't, I was so tired. I didn't want to. And now it's already Halloween. So I just, I had Justin get them because we were cleaning out the garage
and doing stuff and I had him get them out. Yeah. And I was like, last night, I think I was just like, you can put them away. I'm not, it was like, you can just put those back. I, the dream's dead. I can't do it this year. I'm just tired. But I would usually, if they were up, I would leave them up until I put Christmas decorations up, which. Is not until December, usually. So every other year, I don't think I break that
rule. But this year, for sure. We've really moved from inside decorations to outside decorations. Yeah, we don't decorate our inside. Like, we leave our Halloween houses up all year round. Yeah. But we don't actually decorate for Halloween inside. Yeah, see, that's all I did. And I went all out before. I mean, you remember, I had, like, bats all over the walls. Freaking bats. The whole bathroom had, like, blood all over it. And I really, but I have a lot of stuff up
all year round too. That's most people. Yeah. Like my oven mitts are always skeletons. My bathroom in there right now is all horror themed all the time. There's a scream rug and everything. So you're welcome to test it out. The rug or the toilet? The toilet, but you can walk on the rug. The other ones, I don't know. I mean, I don't remember ever checking my candy. As a kid. Oh, yeah, we used to do it all the time. Check it? You had to check it, really? Oh, yeah. What do
you look for? Razor blades? Yeah, the stereotypical, like... I don't know if we were necessarily checking or if my parents were just picking out what they wanted. Yeah. Looking back on it. That sounds more correct. We definitely... I don't remember my parents ever doing that. I mean, maybe looking, like, in the actual, like, my pumpkin bucket or whatever to see if there's anything weird in there. But not the candy itself. No. How did they do it? Wait, did you have to like take a
bite and prove there wasn't a razor in it? Like how did they check it? Just to make sure there wasn't sticking. I don't know. Nothing sticking out of it. It was mostly like. You really got to hide those razor blades. No, I think it was mostly like baked goods. If anybody threw like a baked good in there or something that wasn't like pre -wrapped. Yeah, see that? I don't think I was allowed to eat that. I think my mom was always just like throw that away. Yeah. But I
don't think she checked it. It was just like. Don't eat it. Yeah. Or anything that, like, came out of its wrapper or anything like that. I think that was mostly... Well, that makes more sense. I thought you were checking, like, individual pieces of... Open each candy individually and let's see what's going on here. Show me there are no needles. Yeah, as I got, like, way older, it's like, who's gonna waste drugs on children?
No. No one's gonna inject... you know black tar heroin dude no and honestly now that they lock up the razors in the stores i wouldn't waste razor blades on kids either i don't i hate going in there and asking for assistance oh it's the worst no in the electronics section like just to get a charger you have to ask or like if you need to get like a light for your like a headlight for your car like an up You have to ask for them to open the lights for your car. I don't like
that you have, like, I see certain, like. I don't want to ask anyone anything. They're locking up deodorant and shit in some of the pharmacies. I don't get that. Like, why? I think my biggest thing is, like, the family planning section. That's all locked up. Which is, I think that's fucked up because, so they're not going to. And then they're going to have to come and get plan B, which is also locked up. Right. So. And expensive.
No, I think just make it less. stigmatized like why are we making it so hard for people to be safe i can understand having like a specific section like i don't know an aisle that's closer to like the pharmacist or something so where it's that's where it is right but i've seen stores where it's just in the regular old you know but like at certain ones where it's just over there by the actual pharmacy i think that's fine so you can watch and keep an eye and make sure there's
not like six -year -olds but otherwise i don't think it needs to be locked up and that's pretty spooky That is spooky. Having to ask someone for something. Yeah, I hate it. Never. No. Mike made me do it when I needed a bulb for my car. He was like, you gotta ask yourself. I'm like, I don't want to. I would have never made you do that. We would have just left together. Thank you. No bulb for your car, though. I did that once when I needed a tire replaced. There was
like a slow leak in one of my tires. And I was just like, you know what? I could just get a new car. So I did. But then you have to deal with someone for a lot longer to buy a new car. Yeah, I know, but I did it anyway. It was worth it to me to not have to go get a new tire. $100 for a tire, $30 ,000 for a car. Dude, where I was living at the time, the only place I could go, like, price gouge the fuck out of you, try $300. For one tire? Yeah. Yeah. To have them
put it on and everything, yes. Now, if I would have just bought it raw and gone out and put it on myself, maybe. Raw dog that tire. Yeah, but I didn't know how to do that. I still don't, but I really didn't then. I was like 19, so I just got a new car. Anyways, back to Trick or Treat. Why don't we just tell me why anybody should watch it. You guys tell us why it's a great movie to watch right now, today, on Halloween. If you're looking for a way to celebrate, go.
It's a Halloween movie. Mike, why don't you tell us? Why you think people might want to consider watching Trick or Treat for their Halloween celebrations right after they listen to this. Again, it's a Halloween movie. And I think it has a little bit of everything that you want from a Halloween horror movie. Again, there's a little horror aspect. There's a little bit of story. There's ghost stories. There's monster stories. It's got something for every taste. I could see that.
It has a cute little character named Sam. Who will kill you. If you don't follow the rules of Trick or Treat. It's got a moral to the story. It's a moral story. You gotta listen to the rules. Yeah. I think it's a decent one to watch. Like I said, I was totally prepared to shit all over this and you for it being one of your favorites. But once I got to the end of it, I was like, this was a decent way to spend an hour and a
half. It was fine. It was fun. And it's also one that if you're not super concerned with following it really closely, you don't have to. You can just turn it on in the background while you have people over and watch it and laugh and whatever. And cringe. Yeah, a little bit of that too. It's got those like 2000s horror film cringe. There's a little bit of that in there as well. I will say I like it much better than our Halloween movie that we chose last year. Ghost Ship. No!
Ouch. Ghost Ship is trash, and I still believe that to this day. Yeah, well, our listeners think otherwise. No. Because they love it. They love the episode where we talked about it, and at least 60 % of that episode is me talking about how it's trash. So maybe they just agree with me so hard that they couldn't stop listening to the episode and my views on it. Ghost Ship is so good. I haven't watched Ghost Ship in a while. Yeah? Do you want to go watch it? The
one death scene is pretty good. It's the best. Which one are we talking about? The first. The Wire. Yeah, that was good. But there's a whole movie after that. That's the first 30 seconds. The rest of the movie is not enough. That's the first 30 seconds. And then turn it off. You know? Are you telling me that if you were a ghost on that ship, that you wouldn't seduce a human to their death? First of all, I barely want to seduce a human now. I'm tired. I'm certainly not going
to waste my time doing it when I'm dead. But no, I would not, if I had to be a ghost on that ship, clearly I went to hell. That would be my hell. I would not, I would not want to haunt that boat. The Titanic? Maybe. I mean, you wouldn't have a choice. I know, but that's what I'm saying. I would hate that. You would just be there, like, and not haunt it? No, I would just be in the background, and then if they're like, this feels weird, I was like, yeah, maybe you should fucking
go. That's it. That's your ghost? You're the warding ghost? Yeah, and not like, whoa, get out. Fucking leave, guys. Seriously, how many more things have to happen? But no, I think it was good. I will say, if I was going to watch it again, I feel like I could totally not even watch the middle, like, 40 minutes. The first two scenes are fine, and then I would just go straight to the end with Sam. Well, no. The werewolf girls. It's really the kid scene. It really kind
of slows it down. Yeah, but it's long. It feels like longer than the other ones for some reason. I think it feels that way because it's continuous. I think the other ones are split up a little bit. Yeah. And the kids go on through the whole kid scene. Because that's what brings it together. So yeah, when you're following these kids and they're happening in between these other scenes, it feels like, man, I really want to find out
what... they're going to do. And then it's just a big ass letdown and it goes on for a while. Like I was about to be like, man, I'm going to turn this shit off and just fake the rest. And then Anna Paquin turned into a fucking werewolf. And I was back. I like it. It's a good movie. I say watch it if you just want like a fun, fun time. Yeah. It's good nostalgia too. Yeah. I think it's a very good cult classic. Agreed.
Agreed. Agreed. Well, before we go. Why don't we just talk a little bit about what's going on for Halloween? What are you guys doing for Halloween? What haven't we done yet? Yeah, what have you done? What are you doing? Mike, tell us what you do every Halloween, your haunt. Yeah, I do haunt a house. I am Mike the Angry Clown. Really, it's just a reason for me to kind of be an asshole to people, and they think it's funny. It's like you need a reason. And it's
funny. He's an asshole to me all the time, but they pay for it. I get it. Yeah, they pay for it. You're paying for it in a different way. I've been doing it almost 15 years now. That's crazy. We did have you on a couple seasons ago to talk about it almost exclusively, but it's crazy. I don't think you're still doing it, I guess, but even then when you said it was like 13 years or whatever, that's crazy. But now 15, that's... It's a long time. Insane. It's a long
time to be Mike the Angry Clown. Getting even angrier by the second. That's it. Seriously. Well, he said that now girls and guys are flirting
because of... Yeah. um because of the whole masked men like what of tiktok and i okay what everyone is all about like um i don't know how to describe romanticizing that's a good word romanticizing masked men okay it's big like i read a whole book about it just just recently it's called lights out recommend it's really good um okay i don't think i'm gonna read it but okay i don't think i have the same fantasies as you spicy spicy so yeah so just like sexy masked men oh
is the thing it's all over tiktok it's all in books now like it's just a whole so because of that people want to flirt with you in the haunted house yeah you don't wear a mask you do not wear a mask no i wear face paint um and it's happened like in years past right where you just kind of played off but this year does seem like it's like almost every other person just like wow yeah better watch out stay away from my man well if people want to go to it can you tell them
about the haunted house yeah it's uh not house sorry but uh it's raven's eye manor where is it located it's in fair play maryland okay so like a website there is a website facebook all right so you can find them almost anywhere open fridays and saturdays 7 to 10 30 you might meet mike don't flirt with him Or do and see what Courtney does to you. Nothing. Crowd. Talking up a big game. Obviously, I'm not going to do anything. Is it still going on the weekend after
Halloween? Yeah. We'll normally do what we could do after. Cool beans. I'm not doing anything for Halloween this year. We already went to a hot house. It was pretty good. I actually got scared. Yeah. No shit. What happened? It was dark. That's it? It was just dark? It was pitch black. Yeah. So they had an experience where
it was called the darkness. and it's just it's black it's just a dark maze but like there's there was like one or two scare actors and it was near the end of the the house okay so like you're just going through this maze and it's just dark you cannot see you have to like feel around but what got me was you know in haunted houses where they have like the puff of air yeah the puff of air got me All it takes to scare you after seeing you walk through a thousand
haunted houses like Moses is turning out the lights and going, that's it? That's looking it? I got her a couple times. Wow. Well, we found Courtney's kryptonite. The dark. I'm afraid of the dark. I knew you were afraid of the dark, but I didn't know it would completely throw you off your game. It threw me off my game. And the thing is, like, she said, like, oh, yeah, you took my eyes away from it. But I strictly remember
one year we went to Busch Gardens. Okay. And at the end of one of them was a guy in a bungee. So he would, like, run out. No, they were just out. We were just walking through the park at Busch Gardens. It was, like, the circus one. It was right after the circus one. Okay. So he would, like, bungee out, get really close to people. And then be. And then, like, slingshot
back. Got you. And. give this guy props because he timed it perfectly she wasn't looking got her and she didn't have a single reaction yeah that's what i'm talking about i've seen her not that exact thing but stuff that will scare most people just out of sheer like jump scare yeah like there's just something there that's not supposed to be there and i've seen her not be affected at all yeah and it's just the mighty must fall flipping the switch yeah So if I turned
off all the lights in my house and turned on my humidifier, that would get you. Random puff of cold air in the dark. Well, it's funny you say that because I scare her around the house all the time. On purpose or just being there? No, just being there. I could round a corner and she'd be like, oh, I live here. I live here. I almost pushed Justin down the stairs the other day because he did that to me. Not on purpose. I wasn't like, I'm going to push my spouse down
the stairs. But I was in that bathroom over there. I guess he said he announced himself coming up the stairs, but I did not hear him. And so I opened the door and he's just standing at the top of the stairs. And I went, and I threw my arms out. And my goal was like, intruder, attack. And I didn't get him. But yeah, that was my first instinct was just to push him down the stairs. He wasn't trying to scare me. He was just there. He just dared to enter the upstairs of his own
home. Thanks for listening, you guys, to our spooky season block of episodes. We hope you've had fun. And thanks, Mike, for coming on the last episode. Yeah, coming for the finale. Thanks for having me. Thanks for coming. What? What? Don't do that here while I'm here. We've had a whole month of spooky season episodes, so if you're still not, you don't have it out of your system, I won't until at least Christmas. I never
will. Go back and listen to all of our spooky episodes from this season and from past seasons. We've got plenty. Yeah, we do spooky season every October. But thanks for listening to this one. We hope you've enjoyed it. Have a happy Halloween. Be safe. Spooky, scary skeletons and shivers down your spine. Follow the rules. Check your candy. Be in costume. Don't blow out the jack -o' -lantern. Yeah. Thanks for listening. Happy Halloween. And we'll see you next time on 30
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