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S3 E34 part 2 of an Exclusive Interview: Will Chase on Brotherhood, Fire Service, and Behind-the-Scenes of Rescue Me

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We're thrilled to bring you an exclusive chat with none other than actor, producer, and director Will Chase, best remembered for his portrayal of Pat Mahoney on the acclaimed firefighter show, Rescue Me. Discover the captivating behind-the-scenes stories of his time on the show, including how he prepared for the role and embraced the brotherhood aspect of fire service, and find out why his wife didn't watch the series until years later!

In our fascinating conversation, Will delves into the importance of brotherhood and sisterhood in the fire service, discussing how it transcends differences to create an extraordinary bond. Through his character's development on Rescue Me, Will brings to light the significance of this connection and its impact both on and off-screen. Don't miss this engaging and insightful chat with Will Chase, and remember to share the podcast with your friends and donate to FFCancer.org to support cancer prevention efforts.

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Interview With Actor Will Chase

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

Come back to 3-Point Firefighter . So this is part two of three with my interview with actor producer director Will Chase . Now Will , as you remember , has been on Broadway , tv and movies and he's currently in the Apple Plus series , the Cradded Room with Tom Holland . Be sure to check that out .

He's also been again on Nashville Dobsick Bush Legacy time after time . so many more . Please check out his IMDB . Chances are you've seen something he's been in . Now I know you remember him as Pat Mahoney on Rescue Me . In this episode we cover a lot about his Rescue Me time . Now remember that these podcasts are dedicated to cancer prevention .

Matter of fact , all my social media this month is dedicated to cancer prevention . So after you listen to the podcast , please share it and then go to ffcancerorg That's ffcancerorg and donate to help us all out . They need our help because they're helping us . So with that , here's part two with Will Chase .

Speaker 1

And just like that we're back already . Holy shit , It's been a whole week since we've talked to each other .

Speaker 3

I know You don't look any different . Oh , I can see him . You don't look any different . You wear the same clothes every week .

Speaker 1

Yes , well , i'm like Einstein , except without the brain . I got myself on that one Shit . Even I can't sell that bad .

Speaker 3

Without the hair or the brain , nothing from the neck up . I got pretty good hair . Oh , there it is . Look at that . Why ?

Speaker 1

do you wear that hat man ? Well , i have it .

Speaker 3

When I started doing the podcast I just started wearing hacks , But I got this one because UK brother or I know , But when we talked on Zoom a couple weeks ago I didn't want to say anything because I thought , oh , he's probably bald . You got nice hair .

Speaker 1

Oh , I got gray hair bro , Take this shit out Look at that Salt and pepper , it's fucking silver .

Speaker 3

Fox dude .

Speaker 1

But you know what ? I had gray hairs when I was little , since I was five years old , not as bad , but I've always had gray hair . That explains a lot . And I got my dick caught on the bicycle chain . Well , that's another story . That's another story . So in the last episode we talked about nothing that I wanted to talk about About Frankfurt .

Well , no , we talked about Overlook . We talked about Overlook . Yeah , sure , so I do . For the people listening , they really probably want to hear some rescue meat and they're going to get out of that . So we're going to start and end with some rescue meat and do some catching up . Now I'm watching Rescue Me many years ago .

I'm just sitting here enjoying it , one of my favorite shows And , i think , probably the best received firefighter show there is , especially today . That's what you said . Yeah , so I'm watching it And all of a sudden you know it's where Gary , the character Gary Gary , played by Steve Steve .

Speaker 3

Pasquale .

Speaker 1

Yes , he gets . He gets totally as a tumor on his kidney . He walks down the hallway And all of a sudden I'm like I know that guy .

Speaker 3

And your wife's , like your wife's , like sure you do .

Speaker 1

Yeah , she's like , yeah , foolish , No , she wasn't watching it . Then She's watching it now with me . I'm revisiting it . Gotcha , totally unrelated to what we're doing . I just wanted to go back to it . Oh , nice , nice , so I'm watching

Brotherhood in the Fire Service

it .

Speaker 3

This was season five , yeah , 2000 , maybe 2009 or 10 or something like that . Was it back , was that far Yeah .

Speaker 1

I'm looking at you and I'm thinking , okay , my first thought was , wow , he's way taller , because last time I saw you , or sure , Yeah , great , But you're the way you talked . You sounded like you were from New York , Yeah . And now I'm just like I know this dude , right , So , and you're doing it .

And one of the things you said that burned me up , I mean in a good way . I was like , fuck , yeah , there's a thing in the fire service called brotherhood and sisterhood . It's , it's not a spectrum , It is or isn't . You can work with people you detest And I mean truly detest but we would do anything to help them , right , Just anything .

And it's , it's the only experience in the fire service , It's one of the greatest things . You hear us say brother to each other all the time . Right , I call you brother , Sure , But for us we call it . No matter where I go to teach or anything , I always say brothers , what's up ?

And all this brings comes to a point when the other scene the first scene you're in the hospital . Second scene you guys are outside walking by the East River . Is it East River ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , east River , yeah .

Speaker 1

Okay . So you're walking down and you're telling , basically , hey , you know , you know , don't use your insurance and all that . But the thing that you said , that just blew me away . I was like fucking solid . You said I would not . Your character says I would not change anything , i would still go back and work the plow . Brotherhood , i got to ask .

Did somebody tell you about brotherhood and how important it is to us ? Is that where that came from ? Was that ?

Speaker 3

was that ? just there , i was already watching the show And that's so . it's so much in the DNA of Dennis , who created the show with Peter Toland and Apostles , the company , the production company . that's so much a part of the DNA of that show And so much part of Dennis , kind of that . You know , they constantly mentioned the 343 , the 343 , 343 .

I mean it's in , might be in every episode , i don't know that someone have to check that , but it's so much a part of it . So I didn't really have to do much in that . I did talk to God . Who did I talk to ? back then I did talk .

They gave me a consultant to talk to , but I did talk to somebody in my life And it's been so long ago I can't remember who it is about . Just that , what you just got done , talking about that , that it's not even camaraderie , makes it even sound like it's we're a band of , we're a band of actors or whatever . It's not that .

It is this brotherhood to your point about doing anything . For I mean there are family members who might not help other family members . Do you know what I mean ? But in your line of work it's . I don't care how much I fucking despise you or you're a probie and I'm whatever I am , i'm going to do this thing for you .

And and dude being around and I was here . I was , you know , 9 , 11, . I was not to go to part sidetrack , i was in Jersey , but I was on Broadway at the time in Iida , and it was everywhere . I mean the , the beyond , the Paul over the city , this devastating thing that happened .

it was a community of people that were like fuck , fuck you , we're together , what do you need me to do ? and daily . I remember we shot a commercial That was like . I think that happened on Tuesday , i think by Friday we were doing this .

you know , come to New York , come back to New York , just come to New York and see a Broadway show or eat a restaurant , just come , we're here , we're open for business . It was all the Broadway shows in the middle of Times Square doing some amazing kind of commercial .

I think I remember that dude , and we stood out there and it was it's up to you , new York , and it was everybody in their costumes from shows .

And you know , and while we were shooting the commercial , i mean just engine after engine after engine , just heading down , and this is 42nd Street , so they're going all the way downtown just still cleaning up and and you're just like as they go by , you're like blowing the tape because you're going , yeah , fuck , yeah , yeah , i mean it was .

So there was this . So by the time I was on that show you know this , the show started in , i think , started 2004 or five , so a few years removed . And by the time I did mine , we're starting to realize , oh , people are fucking dying of cancer .

And it's not , yeah , it's just because you just happened to be a fire , no , it's because of the toxic chemicals . And I remember Steve Pasquale Garrity had this great line This is great word , it's a horrible word , but he said so . You tell me I'm bringing this acrid smoke . Acrid , acrid , is this like it ? to me ?

it sums up all the like , just all the stuff around the work , lee , and and tactile like just acrid . The whole thing was fucking acrid . These men and women were down there every fucking day and , you know , pausing to hear if there's a survivor , and all that shit . So that was still very relevant , and especially in 2009 , when firefighters were dying .

And here's this , and that show did this great thing of of this heavy , heavy , heavy shit with this comedy And one of the things that was told to me about firehouses and stuff , and you and I talked about it when we had our like prep . There's this levity because there has to be . It's you can't , can't always be . We're firefighters .

We're going to go to a fire , aren't we ? You're all E or , of course , you can't , you're in , which is why these characters on the show were so great and flawed and fucked up and wonderful , and you know .

So here's this guy , he knows , and Pasquale has just heard the worst news And I think the scene before you know , when he hears the news , it's that where they do the weird sound , where it's like you have curbs , you know it's like , and he's like what you can't believe .

It walks out And the first guy he sees is a buddy who had cancer And it's like telling them dude , don't fuck , get , get some money together , get your kidney cut out , don't wait for , because they're not doing anything . They're not doing anything for us And you're , you're in the middle of it .

Speaker 1

Your character is the middle of it . Going brothers , look , I'm telling you , don't do this way , do that way . And I thought that was great . I mean and that's what we would do , but yeah , and so , when you were so , how did you get that gig ? Well , i call it a gig . Yeah , and it was .

Speaker 3

It's a and I was thinking about this today , jay , that it was a very and I say this about a lot of gigs and the way I think about them But this is very pivotal in my television career because I was doing shitload of theater . I had done , you know , a bunch of guest starring and stuff like that , but one off , never recurring .

I mean , i've done soaps recurring , but that's , you know , like you can recur on four episodes in one day , you can shoot four episodes in one day of soap . And you know you make the kid walk again , as a doctor Doctor Dr Nance did . I know we can do this . Stat I would call Brad , said Brad , what's the name of this medicine ?

He goes , okay , pete that's , by the way , my brother's called me Pete , that's . You say it like this . I'm like Okay , because he goes , yeah , don't say that . Anyway , rescue was one of those I auditioned . I auditioned , You know what that might have been one of the first ones I didn't audition for . I was doing rent on Broadway at the time of shooting .

Rescue me , yes , and I had done it . You mentioned third watch . I had done an episode of third watch and another lawn order that this great director , gus Makris . He's been around forever , he's great . I think he actually recommended me and Steven Vosqual , who played Garry at the time , and he still is , but we have families now don't talk .

But I'm saying we were best , kind of best friends at the time And Steven was always jealous of me because I was doing Broadway , because Steve's an amazing singer , and I was always jealous of him because he was doing TV , and so I think he was like , hey , we'll chase would be great for this one off , you know . So it was kind of like that .

So that's kind of how I got it . And then , you know , i literally I had bleached hair at the time And I remember them having to color my hair for the day Cause I could , was that was that in rent when you had the bleach hair ?

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 3

Yeah , okay . So I couldn't , for the day , be a firefighter with the fasty bleach , do Don't get cancer , don't get cancer .

Speaker 1

I got to go back to rent .

Speaker 3

Everything is red , because if you're not dying of cancer in a one show , you're dying of AIDS in another . Too soon , too soon , too soon .

Speaker 1

But no perfect , for here though Perfect Yeah .

Speaker 3

So it was a great , and I think I told you this too . And so what happened was to segue to the next bit . Was that episode Michael J Fox was was guest starring that year ? Yes , and that was an episode that he won an Emmy for that episode .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 3

I think , isn't he sleeping with learies like X , y , for yeah , right , and then bragging about it to me , right ? So Fox won an Emmy for that , and I think the Muckety Mucks over at FX were like , oh well , let's , let's bring this guy back . I mean , i really do think that's what happened .

And so then the next season I came back and of course they're breaking Lou out . Yeah , breaking Lou out . And I don't know if we're supposed to say this for the next episode or not , but we're saving for the end of this one .

Speaker 1

Okay , all right , we're gonna say what . So I want to end right there . Yeah , i'll get back to some of the question you do . Okay now , okay , okay , here's what I want to get you . When you decided to become an actor , was it more about Broadway , or was it more about film and TV ?

Speaker 3

No , it was all theater Because you've done both .

Speaker 1

You've been successful in all three Right .

Speaker 3

It was all theater at that point And not that it needs to be , but I want to say , back in the day It sounds like it's a long time ago but it kind of is But theater was what I wanted to do .

Once I realized , oh , i love acting and was doing this thing summer stock I thought , oh , i'm going to become an actor And I moved to Chicago and did a ton of musicals and a ton of theater and kind of climbed that ladder fairly quickly there And Chicago is a great place for a young actor to be And but it was all theater . Tv was so not on my radar .

I would audition , but , like I said , i was getting auditions and it would be . You know , it would be like a . I remember them sending me the breakdown my agent in Chicago back . They sent me the breakdown percent of a woman that Chris O'Donnell eventually did .

Speaker 2

But I was Oh wow .

Speaker 3

Yeah , but I was Yeah , but I didn't know what I was doing . I was like , do you swear it's ? but there's no stage , there's a camera . You know , But I feel like theater is that training ground And it's its own . It's theaters its own thing , and theaters only informed my acting and television .

And oddly , television , as now vice versa , as I've gotten older and starred in a few things , it's only informed the way I act on stage . Now You don't have to try as hard and do as much , but anyway , no , it was all theater . I didn't , i didn't know from television , i didn't think that was what other people did .

Speaker 1

You know what I mean ? I would assume I love , i love music theater . I didn't realize it . I met my wife , right . So but yeah , and I tell you why . So she's like when I met her 15 years ago , whatever she's like , you're going to play music musicals , i'm like no , she was , we're going to go . So I started going . I was loving it , right .

Then I started thinking back growing up . That's all I'd listen to . Really The whiz , let's see Laymiz , laymiz No , what was the other one ? And on TV , anything that was a musical too Interesting . Like what is it ? South Pacific Sure ?

Speaker 3

I mean , is this because of your musical , You know ?

Speaker 1

I don't know . I've thought about it since you and I started talking about this And I'm like how do I share it ? Because I don't know . But when I met my wife it wasn't me . I was like , oh yeah , i just actually . Now I'm sitting down and watching it Interesting And I'm obsessed .

So we're going , like I said I told you last time , we're going to go see Hades down in a couple weeks . And here's all of that , some of this stuff , because I'm kind of late to the game seeing it , i don't know a lot of what's going to happen . There's no spoilers , i just get to go and enjoy .

So I don't look up what we're going to go see Sometimes . The one we just saw a couple weeks ago , you know , i talked about about the temptations . I forget the name Oh , ain't too proud , yeah , ain't too proud . So you kind of know what .

Speaker 3

That is Sure And it was amazing , but you don't know what the storytelling device is going to be . You don't know how they're going to tell the story Right .

Speaker 1

And plus it's so much for me is is like it's not just the actors , it's not just the musicians and everything . To me it's a lot about the set . I hate a complicated set when it distracts . I really truly do .

I'm like , because that's all I'm doing is looking over , and I've mentioned there was there was one that me and my wife did walk out of And it was the set was always moving and changing . I just couldn't you know . But then you know , you go to the kite runner , you watch the right Dude , it's all it's so Have you seen the guy ? runner .

Speaker 3

Oh yeah , Oh nice , That's all love Kyroner is that part of your ADHD or Right , i don't know ? But are you ? but are you ? are you moved ? Are you like ? are you a person that I don't know how you are ? Like I cry , i joke that . No , no , I cry I cry at car commercials , you know , if it's the right .

Speaker 1

Yeah , i'm not there yet unless I'm drinking . But I , you know , i totally get moved .

Speaker 3

I totally , because I want to be my whole thing with any kind of art and any kind of theater or television . I want to be moved to fucking laughter . Yeah , not every episode of a TV show , but I want to be moved to tears or laughter . I want to be moved . I think we all do , even if I think we're lying if we say we don't . That's the fucking point .

Doesn't mean we don't be entertained . I'm not saying no , it can't just be entertaining , that's true , but I want to be moved . I want musicals for me .

Yeah , when I go and it's I've done you know 12 Broadway shows at this point , who knows how many regional theater productions But I still , when the light and I'm in the audience and lights go down , i get fucking like oh my God , i can't believe I'm out of musical , like there's something about it that that I love .

And if I moved during that two and a half hours , well then that's the whole point . If I'm not , then I come up going fuck , i wasn't moved , but I want to laugh or I want to cry , and I think that's what musicals do .

Speaker 1

They do , and I think , with movies , tv and that that whole , that whole realm is , some people say , well , i just , i just want to forget for a minute , but that that can't be . Yeah , i agree with what you say . People invest their time multiple hours to go and feel something . Now I got to . Ok , i'm going to bring it back around you .

So many , many years ago , we are remodeling a firehouse station , for it was a great big open room . So when your family came , if you were watching TV , your family is over here is bugging you , or vice versa .

Right , they built , they were building a wall , we're building this wall and the TV's on , and I think it was , i think it was today's show , it was , and this will come out , come here , as , like you know , broadway's Broadway actor will chase and so , and so in this I got Oh , my God , And .

I'm like I'm looking and I look over and I didn't think it was going to be you And I looked and fuck if it wasn't you . And I was like dude . I looked at these guys . I was instantly , instantly , your best friend , everything . I'm like dude . I know that guy . I went to school with that guy . They go oh really , did you know he was in this play ?

I said no , i didn't even know he was really doing acting . They go then you didn't know him .

Speaker 3

Get back to work , fuck face , dude . That's hey , that's 1999 .

Speaker 1

Yes , It was a long time ago , but then , okay , talk about move being moved . I've told you this before and I play this one clip for this Saigon constant . Now , prepping for this , i've used his excuse to hear a bunch of There it's you playing , chris singing why , god Right , yeah , so I play , it's dude , it just you're . You can't . You just can't .

For a second You got to go fuck . But it's so powerful and it's so amazing . But every time I played it for my wife , i have one line that I always use . I said it out loud today no one's in the office with it , but I'm like kids got pipes .

Speaker 3

That kid's got pipes , that kid's gonna go places . That kid who's 52 . That kid's gonna go places . Well , you know what , jay ? That show is funny because I did at the end of Oberlin , did some acting classes and stuff like that , but I kind of had been in Chicago , then went on tour with Miss Saigon for like a year and a half right out of Chicago .

Speaker 1

Was that awesome or shitty Cause ? I've always wondered These tour companies .

Speaker 3

Well , when you're young , oh , when you're young . and back then it was awesome Cause the , you know , the shortest stay we had in a city was like two and a half months . So you got to be in Dallas for two and a half months , you got to be in Seattle . I mean , it was a real tour . Now tours are every week , you know , you change places every week .

But I grew up a lot in that show . I learned how to you know . learning acting class is one thing , then learning how to do something over and over again and make it fresh and real and new is a completely fucking different thing . And so I that year and a half . and then I played no a year . then I played Chris on the tour for a year and a half .

I was on the tour for like two and a half , three years . Then I came to New York , did rent on Broadway than Miss Saigon , but I ended up playing that role more than anybody on the planet .

I ended up doing about 1600 , 1700 performances between the tour , broadway , and then I did in the Philippines for like six months And it taught me a lot , just a lot about not just acting and singing and stuff , but just , you know , showing up and trying to be excellent at what we do And this could go , maybe a metaphor for anybody that does anything but it's

about . it doesn't mean I always succeeded , but trying to just show up and be excellent And that's what I still try to do . I try to install my kids . I'm trying to just trying to be excellent at what I do . It's if I don't know about something , i don't pretend to know about it anymore . I actually try to . I figure it out .

and okay , i can't talk about a 21 millimeter lens . I have to know what a 21 millimeter lens does to a face or does to a shot or does in a moment . So those are the kind of things And that show in particular , and that music's stunning . I got to get close to a couple of Vietnam vets . that changed my outlook of that war .

It's so funny to be a part of that too not the side drag So funny to be a part of that show . We grew up , dude . when you're growing up in the 80s and stuff , you think that the Vietnam War was , you know , ancient history .

When you get older when you get older , like it was of ending while we were alive , i mean you know , I was three when Saigon fell . Right .

So it's like oh and so to have , like this one vet who kind of came on tour and talked to us and stuff , and there's a moment in the show where Chris wakes up and in the middle of the first act , where he's a little bit older and he wakes up and is gonna you know , he wants to kill himself and he wakes up with his new wife and stuff and yelling

nightmares . This guy said dude , i'm fucking free 10 years , a decade . I woke up every night , opened up a nightstand . There was a gun sitting there and I didn't use it . You know , like every night , though , and you're like , oh right , this really fucking . I know we're singing and dancing , but this really fucking happened . So that , why God ?

why moment is that like ? why am I in this place falling in love with you know ? why am I here ? What is this thing ? So , anyway , that's a near dear thing to me and I'm glad you watch it daily .

Speaker 1

I wouldn't say daily , damn it . but now I'm gonna have to . I don't make you a liar , that'll make me a liar in my podcast , fuck that . So yeah , now I'm gonna put a link to that because it really it's amazing . I mean , kids got pipes , that's all there is to it . Now talk about complicated sets , especially near the end . Then Miss Igon might be my one .

It's the white noise on the bell curve . Okay , i'll let it happen . Because everything locks in perfect , in my opinion , for that show . So when it works that well , me as somebody in the audience , i'm not distracted .

Speaker 3

Everything enhances .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , exactly . Now let's talk a little bit about what I think a good set is . Well , i'm glad you asked . I love Book of Mormon , right ? I think their sets are . They're . They're exactly what you want right . They're funny , they're gray but they're removable and all the stuff . I love that , But probably the best .

Don't let me ask you this what's your favorite ? It can't be one you've been in , it might be one you're in . I get to make sure it's on . Well , one I was it's gotta be one .

Speaker 3

I was in And it was . It was because the use it was because of it was Billy Elliot the musical , and because the set was fantastic and had a life of its own . It was kind of a character And it was a very forced perspective some of it , but the director knew how . It wasn't like , oh , we have this set now we're gonna put the show in .

It was like the set is its own being . There was there's a dream dance sequence where and the show's about dance , so it needs to have this kind of otherworldly feel .

And there's this moment where all the men in the ensemble this grandmother's retelling this story to Billy about , oh , back in the day , and all the men in the ensemble are all of a sudden these Irish guys at a pub and they come through the windows and the walls And it was like , oh , my God , like when I saw the show before I was in it , i thought , oh ,

this is theater , this is what theater is . It wasn't like because it was a Miss Saigon , was a complicated set , but it was trying to be cinematic And that was very 80s , 90s , meaning they were going for a the big shows , the big camera macadamac , les Mis , miss Saigon , phantom . Those days are kind of gone , which I'm glad . I like a minimal set too .

Rent would be the opposite . Rent had no moving pieces . Here's scaffolding . The band's right there on stage . It all takes . Oh , this table now is a bench in the park . Okay , this scaffolding is now a Christmas tree . You know what I mean . So I love that part of it too . But the Billy Elliot set , for me was pretty outstanding .

What's the one you're talking about ? So for me you're like cats , oh cats , hamilton's great . Great .

Speaker 1

Hamilton .

Speaker 3

I would say Hamilton is even minimalist in the realm of even though it's , it's , it's , it's it's big .

Speaker 1

That's the beauty of it . It is , it is . It is like the most minimalist , complicated set I've ever seen . Isn't it great ?

Speaker 2

right with the rotating stage Yeah .

Speaker 1

It doesn't . There's only like one .

Speaker 3

I think it never gets it never gets in the way of the storytelling . That's why Lynn is amazing . The piece you could do Hamilton , you , you could do Hamilton in a studio with no set , right , because the music and the is so wonderful and the storytelling so visceral and powerful . But the set is just enough .

The levels , the lighting on that show , the turntable with this , with the stage , is the timing . It's perfect .

Speaker 1

Okay , i got something for you . Let's tie this shit in . You ready ? Yeah , we're gonna tie this in and they're gonna move on to some rescue me stuff because you tied it in , just perfect , okay . So your passion project is here bullet , right .

Okay , think about Hamilton , right , right before Hamilton gets shot , that that one actor is a bullet is a bullet , yeah , right . And so he is literally , you know , contemplating his life and all the decisions and all that stuff and that , yeah . So that thinks about here . Now tell me about where's website to get more information about here bullet here .

Speaker 3

Bullet the filmcom is , the , is the website and again , we're still raising some funds . It's it's a tax deductible donation and you know , short film , the whole world , a short film There's no the short film world is not a return investment world . It's hard to get producers in the general sense of the word .

If I was making a 30 minute short film , that might have legs somewhere , but the short film world in general is doesn't have a distribution dealer , so it's it's from the kindness of people giving money that you know , for lack of passion , project lack of actually say want to change the world , because I think it will , right .

But to your point about it's funny , because I've written this short film that's about this man . It's . It's a musical short film about this man who's who gets to interact with the bullet that's about to take his life and it's surreal and it's wonderful and I've written this .

Of course , i've written this VFX to where this bullet is slowly spending the whole time .

But I keep telling my team I have a VFX team , my director , photography as much time as we spend which is almost a year , by the way much time we spend at pre production talking about the shots and how we're going to do this with crane , we steady cam , all the VFX talk which I , most of it , i pretend to understand I don't .

But I keep saying at the end of every meeting we have about the VFX remember the pieces about the guy , the pieces about the man , the pieces we could do , we , we could do the piece without the bullet coming . We could Right , because I want it to be about the emotions of this person . That's boom , oh my god , oh my god . That's the bullet .

It's going to kill me . In this surreal world , i get to have an interaction with it and tell them what I think and be scared and all this stuff through song right . But I keep telling my team it's about the emotions of the man .

So , to your point about sets getting in the way or distracting , which is why I think Miss Saigon is one of those that doesn't . Yeah , it doesn't . It's because the emotion of the piece And so for here , bullet , i want the . It's still a piece about a guy that was just out for a walk And this is the whole point of why it's , i think , relevant .

It's just all of us going about our daily lives But some nut back with a fucking gun , because they were allowed to , to , to get it , even with their mental health issue , is going to shoot up the school or going to shoot up the church or going to shoot up the supermarket , is going to shoot up the fourth of July parade or fill in the blank , and so this

guy embodies that and the piece has to be about the emotionality of this guy and the anxiety that we all fear and around because we do now , like you know , we want inevitable to .

Speaker 1

I mean , it's got to be . It's got to be that . That's got to what I think . That's what makes people think so much when they see something like that . It's like that . Yeah , it's a bullet , this is his , his story , but it's inevitable for all of us . Yeah , it really is . I mean , we have to .

You could argue , you can , you can all that stuff , but at the end you have to let yourself .

Speaker 3

Fair , my public service announcement . Nobody wants to take away your fucking guns . Okay , we just want to make it hard for idiots to get guns , and we don't need certain kinds of guns to go shoot a fucking deer . Thank you , i've just turned off half your listeners . No kidding .

Speaker 1

Yeah , but think about the half that they're sticking around because they want to hear about misthy God . I promise you there's a firefighter driving to work right now going . I wonder if we're gonna talk you more about Billy L .

Speaker 3

Because that kid was fucking great man . They want , they want to tell you a fucking dance man .

Speaker 1

He just wanted to dance . God damn it Goes to work . all sad , hey Buck . what's wrong ?

Speaker 3

I want to do is appear wet man Shit All right , i tell you what we're gonna . we're gonna wrap up number two here , hey it's funny , i just I just wrapped up a number two .

Speaker 1

No shit , oh , it keeps coming , it keeps coming . So we're gonna move on to when last we left how have you been ?

Speaker 3

What have you done this week ?

Speaker 1

Nothing .

Speaker 3

I'm building Olathe Kansas . How's that Wait , but wouldn't you have already been to Olathe Kansas ?

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , oh yeah So uh , olathe wait .

Speaker 3

Hey , how was Olathe ?

Speaker 1

I'm glad you asked Olathe and did you watch ?

Speaker 3

It's my second time there . Well , when we were there , though , did you happen to watch the second episode of Crowded Room ?

Speaker 1

Let me take back Crowded Room . Love it , love it . First three episodes dropped last week Oh , right . I can't get enough of it .

Speaker 3

Good .

Speaker 1

So let's go back to that . Okay , we're gonna go back to rescue you guys . Give me a second . I just saw something else . Okay , we kind of talked about this , but how cool was it to be on set was another actor that did Billy Elliot .

Speaker 3

Oh well , tom Holland you speak of Well it's just cool . First of all , i've been on set with some pretty amazing people throughout my career , both on stage and off camera , and without fail , they're all fucking cool as shit . I think actors in general get a bad rap when there's one , you know one bad apple , but usually there's only one asshole that makes .

Oh , actresses are so this and that . Well , the ones I've worked with are fucking phenomenal . So cut to Tom Holland , and he's an asshole He couldn't be like and he's also a kid . I mean to me , you know what is he ? 25 , 6 , 7 , something like that .

Speaker 1

Is he that ? Oh man , I hate that .

Speaker 3

But he still plays like he's , you know , 17 , 18 . And he's just you know . You know , i spent one of the episodes talking about the imagination and just being able to do that as an actor , just living in that world . And if you can hold on to that as an actor , then that's gold . Tom is just man And again , he came from that Billy Elliot world .

Of course , in the UK I never got to do with him And he started as the role of Michael , so he didn't start as Billy And Michael is like this flamboyant kind of well , he is gay . I mean like this flamboyant gay kid who just wants to dance and sing and can't believe Billy is getting to dance and all that stuff .

And then then eventually Tom took over and played Billy And then , of course , became a huge fucking movie star playing Spider-Man and all that . So , but you'd never know it . He doesn't , he's not , he doesn't walk into a room and he's not announced . As you know , Spidey , i made shitloads of horrible Spidey jokes .

Why don't you just use your fucking webs and get out of here ? If you're stepdad , you're stepdad .

Speaker 1

I love that about you , by the way .

Speaker 3

That's awesome , that's awesome , but he couldn't have been cooler . and , like I said , we spend a lot of time talking about theater But again , when it comes down to the work , as you've seen , it's beautiful . He plays Tom's , not trick .

but Tom's gift is that he's worked hard on is being vulnerable , and I know that's what we do as actors , or what we're supposed to do , but all characters aren't vulnerable , meaning the character might not be . He has to . he usually ends up playing characters because of just because of Tom's stature , because of Tom's age , i mean his fucking , his .

Peter Parker is that , yeah , it's vulnerable . That's what makes us like him . He doesn't want his power necessarily , you know . So in this he's , you know he's a troubled person and his vulnerability is just beautiful . I mean , if he doesn't win every fucking award on the planet for the show next year , then something's wrong . But yeah , his work is outstanding .

And to be on set with him again , you know every now and you're like holy fucking shit it's . and everywhere you go , i mean we shot in Rockefeller Center sometime . Most of the time we're on stages , where it's . I mean stages is what you call studios , where it's quiet and controlled , but you know a lot of location stuff .

We shot some stuff up in Costa Naya in New York because we had to use a real street , a real house and all stuff for the exteriors . And I mean , if the camera had just gone a little to the right you'd see hundreds of people that don't even live in the neighborhood just out there . Tom Tom , like because he's beloved this one house .

we had to keep going in and out . of . Two little kids lived there and they were just , they're in there , spiderman , you know , underoos and pajamas like holy , that's fucking Spiderman . They didn't say fucking , but well , they're from New York , they might have made it . It's fucking Spiderman .

See , we've got about it , we've made them , we've made them our gang . Hey , see , but he's spanky , but not to be the new spanky , He's , he's , he's gifted . It was amazing being on the show And we had heavy stuff to do together And he was always up for another take if we had to , or whatever it was . He's just , it was a , it was .

It was a hard show to shoot , just logistically , but it was a lovely experience And he's , he's , fucking fantastic .

Speaker 1

The trailer looks amazing And you almost I mean you , you recognizing . But the way he oh , that's a lead right into something .

By the way , i got a brag on here in a second , yeah But the way he does his face and when they ask him these questions and he's talking about black and I was like , whatever he just his face looked just no , he's , he's , he's , he and and and .

Speaker 3

Some articles have come out And this is stuff I didn't know because he wasn't that guy either . Some stuff came out about him being sober for last year and and this show taking a toll on him or making him reevaluate his mental health .

Like really looking into it I was like , oh , you know , it's not like he came to set every day going , oh guys , i'm not drink , or like he didn't . He didn't announce his whatever , which I thought was really nice . So to read about it now was kind of like , oh , he was dealing with some shit this whole time And it probably fed the character .

I'm assuming he could have done it without that . But you know , just reeve , it makes you . That's the thing I love about acting . It makes me reevaluate every show I do , every gig I do , i don't care how small , big it is .

It makes me look at how I see the world , and I see the world a little differently every time I get to do something , especially something like the crowded room on Apple TV plus on Fridays .

Speaker 1

I'm sure I loved it , and the reason I say that it's We're fucking with your man's people is it's not really sick like the third week of June , it's actually May . Don't tell the people that , oh sorry , and it's , and it's May 2012 .

Speaker 3

That's really weird .

Speaker 1

That's okay . So I tell what we're doing . Now we're talking about rescue me , okay . And I got some more questions that again , the more I've looked into this , i'm like this pepper up , okay . And then also you worked on chef , anyway , let's go back rescue me , yeah . Now you know , dip it back in way back , right . So you're , you're going to the hospital .

You already told Gary your character , told Gary that you know , don't cut it out yourself right . Department . So now , and I like to point out for both these next two episodes , you recognized him .

He never recognized you , which in my opinion , makes you a day So well also , but my physical appearance , you're a physical appearance , but he didn't even recognize you when he , when he , looked at your character . That's a funny scene .

Speaker 3

Oh my god , i just rewatched that scene . It's a funny scene where he's I'm like garrity , i got the notes like garrity , and he's like can I help you ? I'm like It's Mahoney and yeah , and of course you know Stephen's character , garrity is such a fucking idiot moron . So you know he's not supposed to tell me that they're breaking Lou . Oh , that's tough too .

Speaker 1

Well , the best thing is , he goes . What you doing here and you go .

Speaker 3

I or your character's not cancer , point at my ball head . Or he says how's it going ? You're like , look at me .

Speaker 1

Yeah , tell , tell us what you told me , a story about the bald cat . Can you show that on here ?

Speaker 3

Yeah , of course . So that I was so the the first time I did the first episode . I was doing rent on Broadway . Is that right ? Yeah , i was doing rent , so I shot . I shot the first episode , 2008 aired , 2009 .

By the time I came back from the next season , i was doing I feel like I was doing Billy Elliot and Had a bunch of we call outs in our contract . So by that point I was doing a lot more TV and So I had in my contract that I could do television shows , usually on Broadway . You're you can't do anything else . You're doing eight shows a week .

They don't want you're starting in the show , they don't want you to be gone because you're shooting some . I said I'm not doing the show unless I can be out doing television anyway . So they said , hey , it's gonna be a three episode arc , recurring .

It's when Pat has cancer and he's , you know , pretty much dying of cancer and he's lost his hair and all that .

So I Had to go , had to got to go to 30 rock and The guru at the time as guy called Lou Zicarian , who was the Special effects makeup guy , but he happened to be also the guy for the last 30 years Who was the special effects makeup guy on Saturday night live so .

I got to go up to 30 rock on and to his kind of workshop and There's one room where you walk in . It's like a room where there'd be a bunch of mirrors , where I'm assuming during the show People don't go up the elevator , but during Saturday night live , but where he could do Fate .

You know bald caps , things like that , but sitting literally some and then in his office is just like You know videotapes , dvds of all the shows , ever little things He's working on , but anyway in a glass case behind my head , looking in the mirror while he was fitting my wig cap Was like the fucking cone heads .

Speaker 1

I'm like oh awesome .

Speaker 3

So thank God He didn't make me a cone head , because that would have been weird . Hey , gary , that would have ruined the scene . Pat Mahoney , are you from where ? I am , pat Mahoney , but But I live in France .

Speaker 1

I live in France , i am Zeldar .

Speaker 3

Mahoney . But wow , that's a reference to no one's gonna get um . No , i know . I know , but so it ended up , you know , the first few tests For the wig cap that took , you know , two and a half three hours to do each time .

And and I remember I told you this story The first time ever walked on set and leery Dennis leery was like will man , thanks , you know , coming back thing , and he thought I shaved my head , thanks for shaving your head . I said I love you , you're not paying me enough to shave my head . He goes that's a fucking wig cap .

I mean to the point of where Lou had put in , like you know , freckles , veins , like it , just Anyway , the care that that Lou took .

And again , when I see somebody that excellent , and now that I'm directing more Not that I didn't appreciate a gaffer or a grip or a special effects person or whatever now that I direct I appreciate those people So much that it's because they're all experts at what they do . They really are there .

I'm an actor , yeah , and I'm get the limelight because I'm on camera and the DP is the director of photography and he , he , you know , gets to . He's the main guy on set as far as the what's the picture . But the guy that's hanging the light and the guy that's plugging in there , all experts at what they do and I appreciate them .

That was a side track to that , but anyway , rescue me was very much one of those shows . And then you know , so I'm dying of , i'm dying of cancer and they're breaking Lou out and they're also a garrity Bro is breaking me out and I want you to tell that great , there's a great line that that garrity has when he brings me into the .

You remember one , all the guys , and now to the hospital room in the hospital room and they're like no , we don't have time or room . And you made a great great point about what garrity says to him .

Speaker 1

It's brotherhood , and so the only problem with this sea , right when I first watched it , is in real life . No matter what firefighters would not say no to your character right Right now , with that said it , it was , it was . It served a really good purpose , though , and I think it would .

I don't know , i'm not that fancy , but it seemed to me to add a lot of depth to the garrity garrity character . So he brings you in . You know you're hacking and they've had this big elaborate plan to bust out Lou , and you got the doctor , rivera , and then you got every it's just everybody , everybody's in one room . So I got a couple questions about that .

So you come in and Gary's like no , we're well , took stopping . I got to stop . Here . You get your nickname , here your character gets the best nickname . Do you remember it ?

Speaker 3

You're blinking this . Oh , hold on , lou says it . Oh it's . Oh , what's ? he say It's hey , what's up Lou . Hold on , what's up , lou . Oh it's what's . He say , oh , it's so-and-so .

Speaker 1

Balls out .

Speaker 3

Balls out Mahoney . Balls out Mahoney Ball .

Speaker 1

So in that , one thing Tells you It established your character as a bad motherfucker , right ? Yeah ? Oh , it's balls out , mahoney , right ? So you come in there and they see you and you start hacking and the Lou's finishes you . You said I'll be quiet and he started hacking and Lou finishes a mouse . I assume that was awesome .

But when they said , look , we can't do it , we can't do it . You know , we got the celebrity plan and Garrity fucking lays the law down to at least two levels of rank above him and a bunch of senior people above him . And he was unflinching . He's like no fuck that We're taking him . You know he worked down there on the pile . He's one of us .

He went down there for eight months , blah , blah blah .

Speaker 3

And the chief , and what's his name says it's not part of the plan . And what's he say ?

Speaker 1

Right , He said , he got what he said . He says something to the how many times ? how many times ?

Speaker 3

how many times have we gone into a place and stuck to the plan ? once twice , maybe he goes playing for the truth , but plans for pussy . And to the point about what's bumping you , what we say , in acting with something's bumping you , bumping you about them not wanting to do it .

You got to remember they don't even really want to break Lou out , so they're kind of going against protocol in the hospital . And so now that Garrett , he's bringing in yet another guy who , by the way , is going to die in the hospital . I mean , i feel like Leary is kind of like break him out for what ?

That's the way I always saw Leary going All right , you know , but finally acquiescing to , to , to Gary saying no , no , he , he fall for us , we're going to , we don't even got behind . You know how many times we stuck to plan And then , and then Dennis does a take and goes okay , put your party hat on you know , and it's a beautiful and everybody .

It's funny that you mentioned that there's so many people and that's a real fucking . It's not a used hospital but it's a real fucking . Like everybody was in that fucking room .

Speaker 1

Yeah . So what was it like for you ? You said you were watching the show before you joined in season five .

Yeah , And now and I know you know some of them You may know all of them , but with that show reaching its popularity like it did and you're a part of it , how to feel to come back like a whole season later and be in the same room like all of them .

Speaker 3

Well , it was great . And also because I love the show . I thought they they told the line beautifully between the drama of it , the comedy of it And and then getting to to to have that arc , because I knew what the arc was going to .

A lot of times when you guessed and they say you're going to come back for recurring , you know three episodes or five episodes , they don't really know what the end game is with the character , i knew what the end game was .

They showed me here's what happens in this episode , here's what happens in this episode and you're going to die The last one , right That you're on . So I knew what the arc was going to be And so I was allowed to take care of that . I was allowed to lean in to that moment to make you care about this guy , to hopefully care about Garedy and what's .

You know , the other dummy , oh , mike , mike .

Speaker 1

I got a note on that .

Speaker 3

one too , i want to talk to you about To , to , to , to , because they're trying to do right . They're trying to they don't know how , because they're , you know , arrested development . They're trying to do right by this guy and help him out . And of course that fails go to the ballet . Of course that fails , you know .

But I love the care And that last monologue that I do when I'm dying is worth it And I loved even that . I mean we haven't gotten there yet , but I love just that moment . It wasn't the care , it's amazing .

John Fortenberry , amazing director , did that episode And I give this speech and they go to Garedy driving and they're talking about Hey , you know , we should have done this . And they come back and I'm dead . There's no , there's no dying , there's no , you don't know . I love that about that show .

It was like all of a sudden , oh shit , somebody I care about is dead , or Oh my God , some they're getting divorced or they're dying in the fire . What do you mean ? he didn't make it or what do you know ? what I mean ? And I , i love that as a viewer and certainly as an actor .

But being in that room with all those guys who I've been watching and who are funny is , and they're , by the way , they're all funny as fucking shit all the time . But the other thing is that show doesn't do what we call a shitload of coverage , meaning they don't do 12 takes this way . And then I'm pointing like a director , like like Austin .

Speaker 1

Wells , they don't . he's doing something , guys . I don't know what it is . I'm giving you two fingers .

Speaker 3

They don't do . a bunch of takes one way and then a bunch of takes the other way . They do one or two and one or two . That was Dennis . Dennis is like . this show is not about takes , it's about this visceral moment . This is about shaky cam . There's not a ton of dolly and setup and lighting , it's we're in the hospital room .

Speaker 2

By the way .

Speaker 3

Dennis is smoking constantly , really smoking . So you're in this room going , you know dying , but really getting long . It really made . You made the theater . All those guys were theater actors . All of them come from theater , except Dennis Really , oh yeah , fucking Danielson John , all of them are theater guys .

So you know , on that show specifically other shows are different You do a million takes , crowded room . We did take after , take after , because they're just trying to get a lot of in the psychology of the piece . That show is about the ensemble of actors feeding off each other in a real moment .

So it was more like doing theater , like that's everybody cool , that's the take . And so you you're like oh fuck , and the , the , the monologue . No , it's a different , it's a different one . We're at the ballet They gave me . They gave me a monologue . I showed up and they're like we're breaking for lunch .

And here's new pages , brand new monologue that I had to learn over lunch . I was fucking terrified because , oh , i've got to learn an entire thing . I've been rehearsing for a week in my apartment . Now you've changed it all , yeah .

Speaker 1

And that was the monologue . Were you going into the ballet or is when you coming out of the ballet ?

Speaker 3

I think it's what I do it all for . Huh , you know the yeah when I come out of the ballet and they rewrote when you want to piss in the fountain , when I want to piss in that , and they rewrote that whole thing . One was because we switched locations and two they just wanted to give it a little more edge . So I literally learned .

So I was like saying that really kind of really for the first ish time , not for the 20th time , to my dog and my Ottoman in my apartment . You know what I mean , but it makes you your dog for notes , right , anything horrible , fucking . But what it does is it put you . It put you in an immediate like theater .

It puts you in an immediate situation where the squall and the other actor are having to really react and I'm having to really act and react . It was terrifying but awesome . I mean like so much . Like . I know it sounds horrible , i know it sounds terrifying , but it's so .

When you're when they call action and you're doing your thing , it's like , oh , this is what I used to pretend to do in my bedroom as a child , like I used to pretend to be people . This is that moment I'm getting to do this thing that I love to do and it's exhilarating .

Speaker 1

Do at any time though , like during this stuff . Wait , is there any level of nervous , like At where you're at in your career , where the show was in its career and you guys were intersecting ? Did you ever think this is , this is a lot for me to carry , this is you know ? so I think show bunch of people I did . You know the obligation ?

I guess that's probably a better . Do you feel an obligation ? Absolutely .

Speaker 3

Absolutely , and and so the nervousness for me very rarely rears its head . There's always a little bit of before your Take going . Am I gonna remember my fucking line because it's midnight ? We've shot five other scenes . There's that , but not the nervousness of oh my god .

But when I get so , when I auditioned for crowded room and I knew they were only looking for at a few people and I had to do one scene that was very kind of nice guy , chill , and in the next scene not so much , and I wanted to make them . It's filled up in three-dimensional as I could , and I did the tape and stuff . And then I get the call .

So you're like I want this fucking job , man , it's Apple , it's gonna be great job security for me for a year . It's gonna be high-profile , it's Tom Holland , it's gonna be a great job , right , fuck Yeah . Then you get offered the job . You're like that imposter said like oh my god , i Actually is gonna be Tom Holland .

I actually actually have to do this now . Actually , in these heavy moments I don't have to just do them once for an audition . Now I have to do them and on that show we shot the shit out of the show . I mean we would choose scenes for hours . So you're having to reach this emotional thing Over and over and that's just hard to fucking do .

I love the challenge , but it's a different animal . So the nerves of preparing for the show for me kick in . Once I start preparing on , i'm the most prepared actor in the world . Then I'm good , you can throw anything at me . I'm so prepared . Pachino's I'm not compare myself to Pachino .

Pachino's , notorious for rehearsing , improving stuff To like almost a fault , so that on the day when he's shooting He's prepared and and can be so open that he can do anything like .

He can see the line completely different than Then he ever has before , because he knows it's filled up with truth And he's done the homework on the , the emotion of the line or whatever . You know what I mean . So , right , that's , that's , but so nerves don't really play a part in that same way .

Now theater Your first time , even if you've been rehearsing in a studio for five weeks before you're doing show , and then the first time on stage Terrifying . You're like why did I ever sign up for acting ? This is the worst , this is the worst job ever . Can I do anything else ? Do you know what I mean ? Like I'm sad , this was a mistake , this was .

And then you walk out there You're like I'm , i'm acting . You know I mean like but you know I mean like that , that that nervous , is different Because your feet you're literally . You can't fuck up and do another take . The audience has lots .

Speaker 1

Yeah , you know that's another thing too . Yeah , you on TV movies you get to reduce that , but like being a Broadway , you have you ever made big fuck ups there ? Yeah , but I could play Lee Blake out .

Speaker 3

Yeah , completely blank out . But a lot of times that the last second will come back . I mean , miss I gone ? like I said , i did it 1700 times . I Would fuck up like two or three years in because you're doing it every night . And if you , for a minute , are thinking about , did I already eat dinner in the middle of a song or something , why ?

Speaker 1

But I've had so much .

Speaker 3

I've had moments We're right before the line . You're like , oh my god , i have no . No , i don't mean , i mean no clue , like I don't know what this is , i don't know my lines at all , and then something Clicks in . I've been on stage of people who have completely Just Forgotten it and and they gibberish shit the bed .

I did a show called I eat a , mickey Dolan's , who was in the monkeys , who He played my father Did you ? did you meet Mickey Dolan's ? It's a good friend . He got me turned on the Scotch What ? But Mickey Dolan's you ? that's cool . He used to have to sing a song . That's the lyrics . Or , while you've been away cavorting matters here , have moved a pace .

Right , he would . I the look in his eyes I could tell before the intro was starting . I'm like , uh-oh Mickey . Mickey doesn't know what's happening and he beat and he would just sing gibberish . He'd be like , oh , i shall live for sure the stable . I saw pine That's who left a and do the movements and do the blocking . So you're like , how do you not ?

Speaker 1

fall apart Oh you do ?

Speaker 3

you turn upstage and laugh your fucking ass off . You turn upstage and are doubled over like why is that actor ? Why can't we see his face ? the whole scene . You know , mickey , don't .

Speaker 1

That's cool . I remember growing up man , i'm not trying to divert it Hey , man , the monkeys , that was it , that was the shit that I saw her face .

Speaker 2

Or as Mickey as .

Speaker 3

Mickey used to say won't be drinking Scotch . I said on her face .

Speaker 1

That's gotta be the most surreal moment to be having a drink with Mickey Dolan's . And then he changes the words Come on , that's cool shit , cool shit . Oh , that's right . Hey , okay , i'm gonna go back to break and loo out . So now you're part of the gang . They run you across the street , you cough up some blood . We're getting to the sad line .

The sat , the line that just fucking ever . Just the other day , when I watch again , i was like fuck , it's depressing . So you wake up in the hospital your character does you might And you said I'm gonna die in this room . And you said it .

Speaker 3

I'm gonna die in this room . I say I'm gonna die in this room , nobody's gonna give a shit . I'm gonna die in this room and nobody's gonna give a shit . Oh , that was and that was hard and that's . That's not true as far as the brotherhood , but that's a universal . You know Firefighter aside , that's a moment again , it's lines like that .

That again , i don't want to hit too hard and I didn't . I hope I didn't . You know , it's like . It's like I'm a dine-in from nose and give a shit . You know , there's not gonna be plaques or our schools or anything . That and every everybody , that's . That's the Psyche of being a human being on the planet earth .

I'm gonna die in this room and nobody's gonna give a shit . I mean , that's a powerful line , that's really everything . So , especially for , especially for this character in this firefighter who gave everything for ground at ground zero , and that's what that show did . Well , yeah , you know what ?

if , if you got anything out of this fucking show , if Dennis Leroy was , remember those commercials used to do right to the Camera and he'd be like fucking whatever , whatever . They were like free MTV , yeah , so yeah , if he , the one thing he'd want people to do is not even the 343 .

Just remember , remember us , remember these guys who fucking run in while you're running out . That's all . That's it , yep he's .

Speaker 1

He's well known and , in my interest , some of the truly cares they really brother . When I was up there a few months ago teaching at FDY , and there's a whole I mean it Eight story building that they use for training and it's donated by the Dennis Leroy's house .

Speaker 3

Oh yeah , he's , you know he's no , no joke , he's for real and and it shows and his he's brilliant in the show and I'm sure you know guys like that and troubled and you know Alcoholic and they didn't . You know that and I love the way . I love . I just love the .

I love the comedy , the dark comedy part of it , because you it's kind of like a microcosm of what I'm sure you have to do as a I first responder firefighter person . That is weird . Like you know , i talked about .

Speaker 2

Talked about the fish .

Speaker 3

Yeah , it's talked about the mental and the physical aspects of sitting waiting , sitting waiting , sitting waiting , go and not just go . You get to ramp up , go , you're going into a death trap .

Speaker 2

No .

Speaker 1

I'll tell you a funny story . So this was Alice in Lexington and we would we need every , every dinner together , but not necessarily do breakfast or lunch together , unless it was a weekend that we work Saturday or Sunday . So we would take turns making these big , elaborate breakfast , right ?

So this one guy , it was his turn and he pitched every breakfast we made . He's like guys , you're making the most , the most fattening , salty , sweet , thick , fucking breakfast and it sits hard on . What if we were to get run ? You know that's gross and we're just I house , so every week we would just make bigger , bigger . So finally got to be his turn .

He made and it was delicious for breakfast . He made I want to say it was Waffles , sausage , bacon and fried chicken and he it was like he hand battered and fried this chicken and Biscuits . I mean it was the most decadent and he was doing it as a joke , sure , like a high use .

So we kind of knew what he was doing and so we're looking at each other like none of us . I was gonna say Every fucking bit of it , because next time I left him again . So we were there , no one was giving ground , basically . So we're eating all this stuff , and it was disgusting because I mean It was delicious food , but you're .

We're eating it till it's gone , because he made so much . So we're making a point . He's making a point . Did we put that last bite in ? we get a call for we're first in a fire . Now , when it comes over dispatch , sometimes it comes across a fire , sometimes not .

So you don't like if it comes in and they say multiple calls , stuff like that , you know it's something . When they say smoking , the area You don't think nothing about it can be barbecue . It can be sure you don't get a wound up . So we're not getting wound up going there . We turn the corner . Fucking houses . Eat me is fucking not . For some reason .

I still know why . This is my number one Bitch in the fire service , parking right from the burning building , the first truck , because that's not how we're supposed to do , they way . We parked right in the first truck . I'm getting all my gear on . It's hitting me hard . I look at everybody . Oh , oh , words . We want to throw up the heat .

Is the fire so big that he was coming through the truck ? Oh , my god , i could feel it on my face . I was like this is terrible . I think I got to The , the heat . I think I got all the way to the dead . The porch truck , porch and I fucking threw up everything . I threw up everything and I kind of tried to make myself through . It wasn't hard .

At the time I was so bloated and nasty I was getting ready to put my mask on . If you throw up in a man's in a fire , yeah , you're fine . Yeah , and motherfucker was laughing at us and we're all sick , moving slow , vomiting , and he's like see , that's what fucking telling .

Speaker 3

So and did you learn ?

Speaker 1

Oh yeah , I think the next one we had .

Speaker 3

Just we said you just like we had . We had a granola and parfait and quid yogurt ?

Speaker 1

Oh god , that was horrible .

Speaker 3

Oh my god .

Speaker 1

I diverted a bit , i apologize .

Speaker 3

That's all good , i love it .

Speaker 1

I got you at 6 30 . We'll let you go .

Speaker 3

I was doing us . We have another one to do right .

Speaker 1

We can be doing . Yeah , I just want to take your time's important .

Speaker 3

I'm good I got some seven .

Speaker 1

Let's do it Okay , so we finish Okay . Oh , hold on a second . Hey Will . Thanks for being on my the second podcast of this . It was awesome . You're welcome , brother . Our podcast today was sponsored by fire facilities . This made in America company is dedicated to constructing top quality custom training structures to meet your needs .

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