Episode 24: Weapons (Ale)werks

Hey, friends and welcome back to the three hamster boy boys podcast. I'm Alexander joined by my brother Nick and our father Jeff.

Jeff the dad.

Jeff. He says this every time.

Yeah. Well, you know, just in case anyone tunes in for the first time and they're like, man, those people look sort of related. I could

be convinced that they know

each Convinced. I will say there have been other podcasts that I've seen where I'm like, that's the same person. Like, those are just different camera angles and that's the same person doing a podcast by himself.

That's fair.

So I'm a lot older than you guys.

Yeah. Yeah.

So, I like to do some introductions just in case we have new people tuning in or just in case this is your second episode and

you're Or you forget.

Yeah. Who are those people again? Yeah. So today's episode, we're talking about fun, interesting and unique weapons from fiction. We could break this down into many many subsections. We

were like We started off this like, what favorite coolest weapons that we like? Iconic weapons that we like? And we're like, it's gotta be fictional. Yeah. Because there's some real stuff that's also really But also, we could do swords and we still might do just swords. This

is a very wide topic. We try not to keep it this wide

Yeah.

And try to better define it. But as we were going through this, we're like, yeah, this is a huge

category. Yeah.

So this is our first there might be other editions of it, but this is our first edition of just fictional weapons.

And I tried to keep mine non traditional.

I was about to say, your your choices are a bit unique, I think.

Because I I didn't want us impeding on something that where we were gonna look at specific types of weapons.

Sure. Yeah. Sure. So Well, I had no such consideration in that regard. I just picked things that I thought were interesting. But Nick, what are we drinking today?

Yeah. So, we are returning to our friends over at Ale)werks. Yay. We had, I believe it was two episodes ago, maybe three? Two episodes? Two episodes. Two episodes Okay. Alright.

He believes you.

Two or three episodes ago. We had our first round of Ale Works. They were very good. I think we had a really enjoyable time.

Yep.

And we we had more of their like iconic ones. Yep. They had their the way we tried more traditional ones. And now, we're I think we're we're breaking out a little bit and getting more of the unique hopefully tasting ones.

What I will say is this was not the first time that we had Ale Works two. We had their strawberry shortcake Yeah. Mixed out like several several episodes we

had Ale Works in like a different category of what we're drinking and then we had an Ale Works episode that we were drinking from. Yeah. And now, are returning once again to finish off Basically, what we had picked up from Ale)werks.

And it's not that we don't have multiple choices. We're we're kinda talking about where we wanna go to next to get out Yeah. To get drinks from. And the options around us are just so numerous.

Yeah. We have we have a lot of options. So we're we're taking our time. We're enjoying what we have in front of us.

Yes. Yeah.

But to begin with, we are starting with a lovely shandy. I believe this is the Let me double check. Oh. Lemon and ginger. Yes. Okay. Lemon and ginger. Should be like extremely floral and and yummy and citrusy and prickle the tongue a little

bit maybe. Very very shandy like

like. Because it's almost summer. Yeah.

I guess that's not right, but we can pretend for a little bit here.

I mean, these episodes are getting spaced out from our normal recording because it has been snowing so much in Virginia.

Yeah.

It seems like we're the we're in a polar ice cap because it's been so bad.

It's true. Time time is feeling a little odd right now.

Yeah. Because we live in Virginia. We don't get snow, but we had probably ten days of just ice.

Oh, I like that actually. I like that

a lot. The ice?

No. The shandy. The shandy. I like the snow but we when we got that like glacial freeze over, that was not great.

Yeah. I mean, I love shanties anyway. I think it's really hard to go wrong with a shandy and this is just It's a little more it's like prickly.

Yeah. It is.

You know, it's like a prickly pear.

I I think that the lemon taste is kind of subdued because of the ginger a little So it's you still get that sense of a the sourness of the lemon, but it's kind of subdued because the ginger comes through. Yeah. Of course, our mother would never be able to drink this for many reasons.

Our mother.

But, yeah, your mother, my wife. But he she's mom to everybody. Yeah. But yeah. It's it's very good, very refreshing. It's just a nice drink.

It almost has like a weedy finish at the end here Yeah. That I I kinda like.

It's I'm a big fan of it to be honest. Yeah. This is extremely tasty.

Yeah. This this is really good. I like this a lot.

You can't can't go can't go wrong,

I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Can't go wrong with a shandy

and They made it even better.

Yeah. Yeah. Even even with all of the drinks we've had from Ale)werks, I'm a big fan of this brewery. I think they just do solid work.

So they do such a variety that you'll probably find something you like. Exactly. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, and for us, we like something that's unique and different and not and not an IPA.

I know that keeps on giving.

That that is typically one of the hang ups. And also, despite our diverse tastes and, you know, you like dark or or you like reds or whites or whatever. At the end of the day, I think we all just dislike IP You'll

We'll probably never have an IPA episode unless a guest is like IPAs. IPAs. And we'll probably find

The most unique IPAs.

The most unique IPAs that the guest will probably do not like.

Yeah. Or

join us in the suffering.

Yeah. What is this? Boysenberry IPA? Yeah.

Yeah. I I I think that does go back. We are looking at more guests or guests in general and and how to add them to the show. So that I think is something I'm really excited for. Yeah.

I am too. Because I it doesn't have to I love the idea of asking them questions that are unique

and Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. And we're gonna be the hot ones of alcohol.

That's right. Exactly.

Sure.

Alright. Let's kick things off. Dad, do you wanna start with with your first weapon here and

we'll I'm gonna go they're all three unique, but I'm gonna go with the one that's kind of the least obvious weapon. My first weapon is a pencil. And people go, what?

A pencil? You're starting with the most obvious? Is that what you just said?

No. You said least obvious.

Okay.

Well, tradition least thing that's a weapon. Yeah. Because my other two are more like weapons, kind of.

Sure. Kind of.

Kind of. So a pencil because I as soon as we said this, two things came to my head. One is the Dark Knight when the Joker does the disappearing act. And then the other one is in John Wick, They say John Wick killed four people or five people with a pencil. And so I said, okay, a pencil is gonna be the one.

You love a pencil.

And then then the other one is on the like the fringe of that is in like the Bourne Identity. He kills that, one guy with a pen.

Uh-huh. Yep. Yep. Well, wait. He like like like pushes out and like gets him in the neck. Right?

Well, then he also pushes it into his hand, so it's sticking out of his finger.

Oh, that's right.

Gross. I forgot about that.

So anyways, yeah. So I I was like, yeah. I gotta go with that one.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I don't have much commentary to add to this honestly. You

know, it it was never going to be ever in a thousand years my choice. Yeah. I agree.

But it but it typifies the movies that I like to watch.

Yes. I

No. Because I feel like it would have been like my favorite weapon is a nineteen eleven nine millimeter pistol, you know.

Blah.

Every action hero, you know, ends up with.

Well, and that's kind of my question is, when we kind of threw this prompt out here, what was like the first instinct in your mind to jump to the the pencil? Because I think I jumped to anime and being like, there are a bunch of weird weapons Yeah. In anime.

So most of the movies that I watch are action adventure movies. Right? And so really action adventure kinds of falls into two categories of weapons. One is traditional. Okay. He's got a 50 caliber or he's got a 45 or a magnum or whatever it is.

Yeah. We talked about that.

Yeah. So I mean, are shotgun or whatever it is. Right? So, you have those and then you have the other one which is weapons of opportunity. Whatever is available.

You're a tower brawler. You're Jackie Chan.

You know, I've picked up a window pane or I've picked up, you know, a pan or whatever it is.

Yes. My favorite weapon, a wooden bench. Yeah. Exactly. Oh my god. That's it.

So, you know, it's it's one of those things where in my mind, I immediately said, well, I don't want a traditional weapon that Yeah. That's realistic. I want something that is opportunistic and and you know, whatever it is.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

So Fair enough. Fair enough. And in this, you know, situation in these scenarios, the pencil is very opportunistic weapon. It's very pedestrian. Oh gosh. It was very pedestrian. Oh my gosh. Yes. Great. Well then, Nick, why don't you bring us into to weapon number two here?

Yeah. I I like like you, I like my brother, I I went with a I was like anime or video games. Yeah. Because they're the ones that you Video games are the ones that you are the ones that are actively participating in use of this weapon. In anime, it's just the absurdity or uniqueness.

Yeah. I've watched you play this.

Yeah. There, you know, I think it's so simple Mhmm. And yet almost impossible to recreate in real life to as it works. Yeah. It it only extends truly when you want it to and but while you're playing it, it always comes out at the right time to assassinate as from the game.

Wow.

Do you still assassinate people in Valhalla?

Yeah. Okay. Okay. But it it follows It's a more RPG thing that they've done with the the new three games. So, it's like health bars levels and assassinating and stealth kills aren't instas anymore.

You know, I was thinking that that that's probably something we could talk about is these kind of the waning and the waning and reestablishment of these kind of games.

Like really long series. Yeah.

Because if we look at God of War

Yeah.

That's really transformed where it started from.

It's true. Absolutely. We can look at the five games of God of War. We can look at six black opses, not even including other Call of Duty's. Gosh. Yeah. We could talk about 16 Final Fantasies.

We talked about Uncharted because we we kind of grew up playing watching Alexander play those.

Five Uncharteds, one main series and then Chloe's.

Yeah. Chloe's spin off.

But, yeah, I mean, think that that's kind of a curious thing because I know that for there was a a point when you guys weren't playing Assassin's Creed because you just were like, it's tired.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I There was a point where I was trying to play through all of them and I just like, it's like, okay. I I get it now.

The the main issue with Assassin's Creed games is the scale is so impressive. However, the game is usually dumbed down by a really redundant collectathon Right. That is extremely unsatisfying. I remember you were playing either two or Brotherhood

Yeah.

And you were collecting feathers or banners or something. Yeah. Were

they were like banners.

And you're used at like one point you started using a guide Yep. And then you got to the end and were like, I'm still missing one. Yep. And I don't know which

and they weren't on the map. Like you had to just

Listen, now you say that but then you're you remember you were getting the hooks in Arkham.

Yeah. But here's the difference. Right? For the the riddler clues, those were all marked on the map. Oh. Like as long as you found it, it would like mark itself on the map for you. So you knew where it was.

But Assassin's Creed, at least the early ones Yeah. You either know where it is or you don't. And so,

it was good when I started using the guide until I went, okay. Well, now I need to go back and look through these a 100 locations to see if I can find

And the difference between that and the farming where you have to do repetitive farming. How does that impact? I mean

So when we go when it comes to like farming, you're usually like in terms of gaming, if you're farming quote unquote, you're usually doing it to get some sort of goal or like end. Right. You know, like you're either like, I'm farming to get gear or equipment or weapons or do a fight.

So that's a big difference.

Yeah. What I will say for our audience members that are not necessarily as familiar with these and

I don't play these games in general. I just don't have the time but

Most of the time when you talk about farming in video games, you're not talking about planting seeds No. And plowing and watering those seeds. Oftentimes, it's a repetitive action whether or not you're you're like fighting the same boss over and over again or you're fighting the same like three goblins to try to oftentimes to get like like Nick said, equipment or more levels. It basically refers to like a repetitive action over and over again. Other another word for it is like grinding.

Yeah. But yeah, those with farming like, you know, you're expecting a bounty or you know, eventually reaping the rewards. But Yeah. For games that who do mass map collectathons, where you're just collecting arbitrary things that fill up a number to, you know, give you a little bing in the corner for an achievement. Yeah. It's a lot less satisfying than an in game sort of payoff.

Yep. I I get it. Yeah. I mean

And what I could say is you don't necessarily need to do these, but like

Well, it's like it's like the the person that was that always tried to complete the games. It's like, okay, I'm gonna do this. Why? No reason.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit of dopamine

breed of people who are like, I'm going to 100% as many games as possible. To

me, they're they're the same ones that say, okay, I'm gonna get through this game in two minutes.

Yeah. You know Yeah. Speedrunners. Yeah. Completionists and speedrunners have like a very similar mentality.

Yeah.

Two sides of the same coin. Yeah.

They are They're both in the sense of like, I have mastered this game. Yeah.

I was about to say, they might even be the same person. That's true. Yeah. Because a lot of times speed runners do the games because they love them so much. Yeah. Same reason. Well, not not necessarily. Sometimes completionist just want the the number to even if they don't love the game.

Yeah. Yeah.

Alright. Anyways, we got off on the tangent.

That's for me. And then, yeah.

What about you? Yeah. So, I actually have a list of a bunch of like weapons that I thought were interesting. And I'm just gonna kinda go off of whatever whatever I feel like in the moment. So I think first off, the first weapon that I'm choosing is gonna be from a an internet series. I know I mentioned anime. It's not gonna be anime to start us off. It's a 2013 internet series that eventually concluded, I think in like 2024. What? From Rooster Teeth.

Okay. I do not know this one.

Yeah. The series is called Ruby or r w b y. Red white black yellow. Yeah. Okay. And the the quote unquote main character or the the main character that we meet, her name is Ruby Rose and she

But Ruby spelled correctly. Yeah.

Yeah. And she carries a weapon called the Crimson Rose and it is essentially a sniper rifle and a scythe put into one weapon. Wow.

So she can do close contact or far away.

Yes. Yes. And so, Nick and I were were actually watching the red trailer before we sat down for this. Yeah. But essentially, the the weapon can like fold out into a sniper rifle or if she wants, it'll fold out completely into a scythe. Wow. And it's operational as a scythe and a sniper rifle at the same time. So she can do a lot of like very fun and like flashy combos. And at the time, 2013. Right?

It's like a general cam. Yeah. Just them. Shaking their their cameras up and down. Exactly.

Yeah. So really, we're looking at that and then we see this series Ruby where there are like full fight scenes. You're seeing these like crazy sort of movements and animations and yes, looking back it's super rough compared It's really to what we have to watch.

Gonna

lie. But you said the music was

Oh my the music. Yeah.

The music is so good. Yeah. Jeff Williams, probably the main person working on them. So iconic. I mean, even just watching the trailer, we're both singing along to the trailer music To bop. Because Red Like Roses goes so awesome. And even now, we're we listen to some of Jeff Williams other stuff like caffeine is stuck in my head Yeah. Least once a once a month. That's true. But yeah.

The kickback pull the scythe through the enemy toward her.

It is kinda sick, honestly.

It's a very cool idea. Yeah.

Really cool idea. And even going further than that, when we were in Germany, we saw like Was it like a hammer? It was like a it was like a hammer and like a gun Yeah. Put into one. Woah.

Woah. Woah. We're we're going into non fiction weapons now. Well, like

That that sort of idea I think has always been so cool of like mixing that close range and the far almost to an unnecessary degree. What what makes it so interesting.

So talking about real weapons and war, you always had the bayonet on the rifle.

It's But that's not flashy.

It's not flashy It's

too practical.

It is practical.

But like that sort of concept, Ruby and also seeing that that gun in real life made me want that for my D and D character. Exactly. So when I was playing a Paladin, was like, DM, I want this. And he's like, this guy. Okay. Sure. Now granted, part of that was he's like, okay. You're super underleveled compared to the other party but part of that was because they all became gods and I just was a stupid

sure. Can have a gun hammer.

Yeah. Yeah. But you can have

a gun hammer. Whatever.

But yeah. I I think and in in the show, she also uses it for a little bit of mobility as well where like firing the gun kind of propels her forward a little bit or propels the scythe to like give heavier strikes. Mhmm. Just a cool weapon in general and at the time like So super unique.

For some reason in my head, I'm thinking this tiny little girl

Basically. You got it.

Oh. She she's Her character model is like based off of Red Riding Hood.

Oh. So she wears like a red like a red cape.

So, It is exactly

what Art style at that time, you know, fairy godmother and Yeah. They they

really trying to capture that vibe. Yeah. Because she because in the trailer in the trailer for it, she's fighting wolves. Yes. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Oh, I didn't even Yeah. You're right. Yeah. But, yeah. If you're you're thinking like old style of animation, so it's like three d models with like the lowest polygon count possible.

Yeah. Yeah.

It's tough. But, I I remember watching that in like the 2013, 2014 of being like,

this is so cool.

This is cool. And then, never getting into

the show. No. Because I'm gonna be honest, they should not have added a story. I know a lot of people like it, but it's It's hard to watch.

But, I mean, I love the old art. So I was I saw a couple weeks ago, I was watching something and it was the cartoon heavy metal, which you guys don't know about. But I saw it in 1982 and it had all these heavy metal bands playing in it.

All I know about is the game and I don't know if that's related.

Are you talking about Twisted Metal?

Oh, you're right. Never mind. I don't know anything about Heavy Metal.

So Heavy

Metal had Devo, Black Sabbath, a bunch of these really heavy metals in the early eighties and a couple of punk bands. And they did art style to kind of and it was basically following this evil essence around and how and then they whenever they dropped somewhere, it was just everyone was a different cartoon style.

Oh, okay.

And everyone had a different band playing a song.

That's cool.

So it's it it is pretty cool, but it but it was really impacted me because I was in high school at this time. Yeah. And it just was such a cool thing. So, when you guys talk about comics or cartoons or whatever, that's what I always think about as unique art styles that that just you can't find anywhere else.

Sure. Obligatory Denzel Curry yeah.

Unlocked album episode. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Again, I think that that's so cool and I I think art art is awesome. I I mean, the reason why we do this podcast is we talk about art all the time, but especially when it comes to animation, when we're talking about like Star Wars Visions, when we're about albums like Unlocked or like shows like Heavy Metal, I love to see the progression and and the changes of art animation and the the art styles that come out.

I also like the you talked about music. I love music and animation. Yeah. And acting and voices just all coming together. I love that combination of art style.

I mean, Nick and I grew up on AMVs. Oh,

yeah. Yeah.

Like in that big period of AMVs. I know some people are still making them and for those who don't know AMVs are like animated music videos. Basically, specifically with anime, they'll take songs probably your favorite Lincoln Park song Yeah. Has a million of these on YouTube.

It's true.

But, yeah. Someone with editing skills will go in there. We'll sync up a Lincoln Park or whatever.

To a cool anime fight. Yeah. More anime. Yeah. It'll be

really really cool. Yeah. It's really cool.

Yep.

Alright. Well, our glasses are empty. I think it's time to try something else. We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back y'all. See you soon. Yep. And we are back. Howdy y'all. What's up? We've got more alcohol in front of us here. Nick, what are we drinking now?

Yeah. So we are going for hopefully a lighter to darker in terms of the beers we're drinking. So we started with a very light shandy which was very tasty and we're going a little bit darker into a lager. This is their limited release grapefruit weekend lager. This should still be fairly light, but I'm going to expect a much richer and fuller taste than the Shandy. More grapefruit

grapefruit's my favorite so.

You had to get it get it in there. I love grapefruit. Grapefruit's my favorite. What are we thinking? I feel like not as strong reactions from the Shandy.

I don't think it's that different of a profile.

Yeah. It's still a very light and fruity experience, but I think it's it's a little underwhelming. Yeah.

I mean, think that they muted the grapefruit taste a little bit too much. I would have liked more grapefruit taste.

Here's what I'll say. It smells very strongly and with that a little bit of that grapefruit essence and then tasting it, you're right. It it does not come out as much.

But here's what's funny about it. The the the the shandy, you could taste the beer at the end. Yeah. This one I taste the beer and then I just get this hint of grapefruit at the end of it.

Yeah. You're like, it's a lager. It's a lager. Oh, fruit. And it's gone.

Mhmm.

Yeah. It's like on the very edges of my tongue when I taste it.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's a good way of putting it.

But I mean, I'm a big grapefruit guy so I would have liked a little bit more grapefruit forward on it.

Yeah. I will say this this and the Shandy both I would classify as those like easy drinking beers where they are they're both pretty light. You can just kinda knock them back. These are definitely I would say a little more summery

and I was thinking that these are summery ones but we bought them. Yeah. Definitely in fall

Yeah. Fall Winter area.

Yeah. It's I would not have This would not be what I would consider a typical winter. Of course, in my mind, Gluvine is a typical winter drain

Sure. But like, you know, either But I I think more rich and deeper and

Like, I think like a darker Yeah. Stouts or

Yeah. Stouts. Maybe darker yeah. Yeah. Something works. More heavier or richer. Usually is more more wintery or fall. Yeah.

Well, either way, these are delicious. This one is good too. I think with the expectation of more grapefruit, the little bit of a disappointment in terms of the taste there, especially because I smelled it before I tasted it and I was like, woah. Okay. And then you you try it and you're like, wait a second. Where'd that taste go?

This is a lager.

Yeah. It's a it's an it's a nice lager.

Yep.

Yeah. Alright, Nick. Kicking it over to you.

What is your your second weapon here? So my second weapon comes from a game series, another video game series with very good reputation and is has a has a long life life lifetime similar to the Assassin's Creed, but I think a little

bit more Not as many games?

Not as many games. Not as many games. I think there's five in the main series.

I think you're right.

Maybe six if we're counting.

Tiny Teen as a soul?

Yeah. Wonderland. Oh yeah Wonderland. I'm talking about the Borderlands series. Please never put it next to the movie because I heard that was the worst movie that has ever been released.

Time to watch that.

Borderlands is for a little bit of context. It is a first person RPG shooter. So you run through a variety of levels and worlds and areas collecting a mass variety of very unique and fantastical guns that all have interesting or odd properties and the rarer and more unique guns have signature, you know, aspects to them. Like there is a thing called the Gunarang where when you finish it, you throw it and it just starts spinning around and shooting and it comes back to you. Yeah.

fifth element.

Yeah. Yeah. Where it's basically companies control territories of the galaxy. Yeah. And all of them have like signature names and therefore they all are weapon manufacturers as well.

Okay. Yeah.

So if you have a shotgun, you're like bang bang bang. You are like, I'm out of bullets. Throw it, it explodes on another guy, new one phases into your hands Yeah. And you're ready to go.

Okay. So, you know, I've never played these games.

Yeah. Yeah.

So, I know very little about it, but I have never heard of this Yeah. These weapons. Yeah. I've heard of some, like the the Gunnerang, think I've heard of

probably.

But that one's a good one. That I've never heard of.

Yeah. I I It's a it's it's a very humorous thing and Yep. It switches up on how you think. I like Borderlands because it really changes on how you play the game depending on which company gun you pick up. Mhmm. Because Jacob's, their signature is no gun is fully automatic that they make. Every time you click it shoots a bullet, so it only shoots as fast as you click. Mhmm. And then there's other guns where the more you shoot, the faster it shoots. Yep.

I will say the game also uses a fun kind of rock paper scissors mechanic in terms of like the effects that guns do as well. So like certain shields can only be or like are damaged more by certain types of guns. Certain like armor is more affected by certain types of guns or if it's just like a a flesh monster like a like a I don't know, a wild creature out there. It it's affected by different types of guns more as well.

Yeah. So it's The game is basically you you have a load out of weapons that you get to optimize and you also choose which character you start with and they all have abilities and stuff. Yep. And yeah, it's like a it's basically a traditional fantasy but put into the far future.

So are characters locked into certain types of weapons or does it add creativity to how you play? Because you can do characters with different types of weapons and stuff like that or

It is yes. Yes and yes. Yes. So, most character any character can use any weapon. However, there are characters that prefer other weapons to others. Okay. So in Borderlands the pre sequel, there's a character named Nisha. She's all about pistols, no matter from what. If you have a pistol, she gains a whole bunch of benefits.

Doesn't matter the maker.

Doesn't matter maker. There is, I believe, I think maybe either the Jack clone, the Jack doppelganger Uh-huh. Or the handsome Jack sister. They are partial to either Hyperion weapons or Jacob's weapons.

Mhmm.

I haven't played a lot of the pre sequel. I was thinking Borderlands three, I think Zero is the character. He likes sniper rifles.

Borderlands two. Borderlands two. Zero. You you got me. Borderlands three has Zane. Oh, okay. And Moe's. But, yeah, it's The the excitement of Borderlands is all these gun guns are put through like a random augment Mhmm. Before they spawn. So you never like, no gun is ever the same.

Does that So does that I mean, there are some game games that I watch you guys play where there are characters that do well with certain weapons. Does it add to the skill set required to play the game? Does it add anything by having kind of a randomness to the guns?

No. It just is exciting.

I think it adds a replayability

Right.

To the game. That's what I was thinking also.

Because I think most of the border borderlands games are not particularly long, especially when you compare them to some of the other games nowadays. Especially because those earlier Borderlands games were in a period of time where like new game plus was really like the the fun thing that you could do, which is like if you beat the game, you can play it again.

But you keep your level and all your equipment

So like Arkham City has a new game plus. And I mean, heck. Arkham City is not necessarily a short game at the end of the day either. No.

No. But that's that's pretty cool. I like that. Yeah. Yeah.

And at the end of the day, if you need a new gun in very classic, you know, high sci fi fantasy. There's always a vending machine around that

you can get weapons you buy weapons for vending machines or if you're feeling lucky, there's a slot machine you can get guns from.

Very fun. Love love Borderlands. We talked about it earlier when we were talking about villains. Handsome Jack made our list just because he's such a a great villain

to

have.

Yeah. But one of the most iconic.

But that's also something we could do from an episode. The conversion of anime into live action. The conversion of games. What what

I was saying is I'd love to do a b movie or like a bad movie episode.

Does that include all the live action game No. Absolutely.

I think that might be its own separate beast.

Yeah. I agree. We're right. We could do video game movies.

That'd be tough.

Yeah. I mean, I think Sonic and the the most recent Super Mario Brothers movies are like the only ones that have done sort of well.

I I just saw Mortal Kombat two trailers coming out. There's a Oh my gosh. Which is crazy.

Yeah. Alright. That's that's a different can of can open up. I'll I'll go next here. Kind of going off of more prolific video games. I'm gonna kinda piggyback on that. Saints Row, if you're not familiar with the game series, is basically the absurd kind of response to Grand Theft Auto.

Yeah.

I think everyone is probably familiar with Grand Theft Auto. It's a very popular game franchise. Saints Row, I think doesn't get quite as much flowers for it. But it is basically a similar concept to Grand Theft Auto. You're in a city. You can like steal cars. You can you know, gun people down. Whatever you want. But it adds just

absurd They go wacky on the story everything.

Yeah. So like Saints Row three, you're like You start as bank robbers, but you're a famous gang. So like, news reporters are like interviewing Oh my god. It's the You've got fans. Nobody

move and someone's like selfie. Yeah. And like you pose with them and stuff like that. Some of

your characters do like like advertisement shoots for like energy drinks or whatever. Like

it is absurd and the stories go crazy. There's like alien invasions. It's insane. Yeah. The the fourth game starts off where you're doing a random attack and then you get elected president of The United States. And then you get abducted by aliens and you play most of the game through a matrix world. Yeah.

It is crazy and absurd and because of that, the weapons also are very crazy and absurd. You'll find like your standard like machine gun, pistol, shotgun, whatever. But there are weapons that are just crazy. Piranha gun.

Piranha gun.

And one of those, one of my favorite guns is the dubstep

Okay. It's so 2012, twenty eleven coded. It's so came out at the perfect gun. Basically,

it like makes people dance and then they explode and die.

Oh, like, when you shoot them?

Yeah. Yeah. So you're

like, It

makes dubstep when you shoot it as well. And also, it makes the things around you like the cars will like jump like they're like dancing to.

It's some heavy face.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's basically a boombox because it's a cannon so you like put it on your shoulder Yeah. And like the speaker is out and you're just like boom boom like everywhere.

I do think that was part of the design is they wanted it to kinda look like a gun, kinda look like a boombox.

Yeah. Kinda look like a

weird futuristic kind of gun. Yeah. All in one. And, yeah. I think it's just a fun and silly gun. Like you said, it came out at the perfect time. Which

is such a small pocket of of when Dubstep is relevant.

Woah. Woah. Dubstep is still relevant. It's just way different nowadays than you know, what we grew up on and like, you know, those Skrillex Bangarang videos that we were watching. My apologies. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. I feel like the like dubstep of the early like twenty tens is like such a such a microchasm of of whatever happened.

I mean, that's true. I mean, you have like Skrillex and Adventure Club. Okay. Anyways, we're getting into

to to

Anyway, dubstep gun. Cool.

Yeah. Yeah. I think the the dubstep gun is just like a very fun and unique weapon. Although granted, like you said, the piranha There's a bunch of like wild and wacky guns.

So what's a piranha gun?

It's it's like a shotgun. So you get up close and personal, but instead of bullets, it shoots piranhas that hop onto people and chew them out. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. That's what it sounded like.

I think they they had in the fourth game they came out with like the big brother of it, where you shoot like like shark you you shoot bait onto people and a shark comes from under the ground and chomps them and pulls them under.

That's awesome.

I I really appreciate the call, a call to Saints Row. Yeah. The the first and second Saints Row were basically GTA clones. Yep. Saints Row two is very beloved just because it had like a very like solid story. Mhmm. But for three and four, they just went so absurd and created its own identity. But unfortunately, even with all of that, there's nothing that truly stands out, like one aspect that stands out that can really be highlighted. It's just a very fun enjoyable experience. Yeah.

Yeah. Just just crazy storylines. I I will say I prefer Saints Row over Grand Theft Auto just because it doesn't take itself seriously.

It never does.

And I think that's so fun, especially in a game like this where I don't think you should take yourself

if you're taking it seriously, there's something wrong.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And I think Saints Row the creators of Saints Row kind of understood that. And after the first two, were like, okay, hold on. We know what what we must do here.

And I think they definitely perfected the formula in three. Yeah. Four is good, but it the story was a little too, like, out there to really get into, but I think three is like the the perfect point.

Yeah. Yeah. I I mean, along with the game also has a bunch of mini games, like, is a game show where it's basically you just killing a bunch of people.

Oh my god. Oh, it's like mister Genki. Doctor Genki. And it's like super like Japanese like mini mini game and like as you're playing there's two commentators talking and you're just like, wreaking havoc and you're like, doctor Genki, rushes down the hot sauce bottle. Yeah. You know, and it's it's just like very

It's a

bunch of people

in like mascot outfits like rushing at you with like either just fist to cuffs

Or like baseball bats. Yeah.

It it is hilarious and funny and yeah. Although Doesn't take itself seriously. Doesn't take itself seriously. And, there's a bunch of like really really silly weapons in the game. So, I I appreciate that. And, I mean, if we're talking about it right, Saints Row three, the music is incredible.

Oh, my God. They actually had a really crazy sound, like radio. Yep.

Back when Kanye West wasn't The craziest person. Yeah. Insane. I I think that Obviously, he didn't need that much help, but but putting power on the map. On the trailer? Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

So good. So great. Anyway. Alright, dad. Enough, you know.

So, now the boring dad

choice. Yeah.

So once again, went with things that aren't really weapons, but they are weapons.

Okay.

So my second choice is from the sixties, double o seven, which is Oddjobs killer hat. And

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

So he throws a hat and he chops off people's heads and

Yep.

And whatever. And I just thought it's so absurd, but it's live action. It's not a cartoon or a game

or whatever. Yeah.

And the guy that played Odd Job never said a word throughout the whole movie. He was just a henchman and he wore a tuxedo as a henchman and then he did the bowler that killed people. It was just so absurd.

It's so absurd but ominous. Yeah. At I mean, you're

talking the sixties. At that time, is there any sort of weapon like that or is that kind of revolutionary in what it's become?

It is revolutionary. I mean, a lot of the stuff that James Bond did in the sixties was kind of taking kind of what what people imagine World War two was like with the agents and then taking those weapons to the absurd level like Yeah. What they did to cars wasn't seen before where they're and yeah. Know, and all that stuff. And so, the guns coming out of it and then, you know, they'll they open up a box and it's a little helicopter.

Yeah. Yeah.

Right? And so you've had this queue option in there where they were developing these cool things. But at that time it was, okay, this person's wearing a jacket that's bulletproof or you know, this pen explodes. Yeah. We think of that as common day but at that time it was something totally revolutionary and different.

Yeah.

Yeah. And so, there was a lot more talking in the old James Bond movies. There there wasn't the ability to have these really high action things. So you really didn't see a lot of it but the way they they kind of went around it is they made clever weapons and and tools that they used, know, whether it was a laser to cut a lock or something like that.

It almost feels like Batman utility belt

I mean, Batman came out at the same time. The the campy one came out at the same time.

The Adam West one?

The Adam So, West you had you had Batman doing this. Well, here's my bat thong or bat whatever, you

know. Yeah.

You know.

Here's my bat spray.

Yeah. This is my bat shark repellent and

Yeah.

To to repel the exploding sharks that the Joker sent. You know, it was it was the those at that time was taking everyday items like a pencil and making it making it a weapon.

I'm sensing a theme.

Yeah. Yes. There is a theme.

Something that seems innocuous but is truly dangerous.

I mean, it is interesting to see the how much like are those early media really affect things and how much of kind of a inspiration they've been for a lot of other media. I mean, there is a character in speaking of Mortal Kombat. There's a character in Mortal Kombat that also has a hat that has like blades on it that he throws around. Yep. That one character.

Yeah.

We did not play a lot of Mortal Kombat. I think his name is like Raijin or something.

There there have been other ones where you know, they they do things like that. But like I said, it it at at this time, it was really the creativity around those very early movies because there was nothing like it.

Yeah. Right.

You know. It's it's not like, now, it allows for the creation of very absurd weapons nowadays because we're gonna push it to the next thing that's absurd like Oh, yeah. A dubstep.

Like a dubstep gun. Or

the the reappearing weapon when it it materializes you throw it away.

Oh, yeah.

You know, I think I think that these are the precursors to that and it just it is To to me, it's just remarkable to see what it's become.

Yeah. Yeah. It's creativity getting pushed to the bounds.

Yeah. I I think sometimes we take for granted some of these older shows where it's like, oh well, that's that's fine. But look at what we have nowadays. Yeah. I don't think we give enough flowers or enough credit to some of those older shows. Even if they're a little slower, more talking heavy, there was a lot of like innovation and and kinda like If

you look at the Batman campy version of that, it was It really followed a lot of the creative stuff in the comics. Yeah. And then when you see like the Dark Knight come out or you see the other Batmans that came out, they're really playing on top of that stuff that was in the comics and that the campy stuff did. Yeah. You know, that they still did kind of an homage to what those what that first series did. Yeah. Anyways, we're out of beer.

We are out of here.

Well, yeah. Our glasses are empty and we've got one more beer to go. So we're gonna take a short break but we'll be back in a moment here. We'll see you soon, guys. Bye. Bye. And, we are back and immediately, you can smell this alcohol.

There will not be tentativeness in the flavor of this.

No. I mean, was saying you could smell the the grapefruit when you put it up to your nose, but you you just poured this and and I I'm smelling the pumpkin already.

Yes. This is crazy. So, what do we got?

Yeah. Rounding our our last journey with Ale Works for now with the Imperial Pumpkin Stout. Aged in a rum barrel, so even more spices on a darker stout. Hold on. I don't actually think it's a stout. I think it's Is it not?

It's an Ambril, actually.

It's an Ambril. It's just so dark. It it is dark.

I think that's because of the molasses from the rum barrels. Yeah. So, you should get We should get a sweetness with this also.

I mean, it certainly smells like it. Yeah. This is It's almost like a cocktail. If you were like, a cocktail's in front

of you.

I'd be like, yeah. I believe you.

Yeah. Yeah.

Because I am getting the notes of rum like in the air now.

Yeah. It's it's crazy. I mean, and the spices too. I just Yeah.

I mean, when you look at this, it is no wonder that you thought it was a stout because this does not look like an Amber Ale. No. Usually, there's some

opacity or pacity to an Amber Ale. I can't see my finger

through this glass

right now. It's awesome.

Yeah. Well Cheers. Cheers.

Wow. This is crazy.

Yeah. Absolutely. Oh, The smell is Oh, my gosh. He's Even as he gets closer, he's putting that smell.

Oh. That

is wicked. That is

That's crazy. Oh, my God.

Oh, and it keeps coming.

Yeah. There's so many layers. If you told me rum was in this, I would believe you. Yes. Because it has such a heavy amount of the rum spices.

I'm not getting a lot of pumpkin

getting a lot of pumpkin. Oh, wait. At the very tail end, I'm getting pumpkin.

I'm getting butterscotch candy a lot.

A little bit. Here's what

I will also say and this probably is affecting that sort of rum taste. Not only is it the the rum barrels, but also we are looking at almost double the alcohol content from the last two.

Yeah. So it's just stronger in general.

Yeah. So we were drinking think both of them are four point eights. This is a 9%. So it is much stronger, but I I'm not getting much pumpkin. I think you get a little bit of it at the end, especially when I'm breathing out. I can feel it over my tongue.

I'm definitely getting the rum barrel though.

It is so unique.

It is I You know, I like stronger Yes. Although, I'm not getting a strong ale taste.

No. No. Not really.

It's sweeter than I would expect an ale to be or more buttery than it. Yeah.

Yeah. More buttery.

No. Yeah. If you put this in front of me and said this was an amber ale, I would not believe you. I would say, you are lying to me.

I'd be like, hold on now. Amber ale and what? Yeah. What exactly? Put in it.

Did did you melt some another

thing you added to to spice up this amber ale.

Wow. Yeah. This is really unique.

I'm wondering how it would be warm.

That is an interesting thought, Dev.

I don't I don't know. I don't know if that would be good. Are

you thinking like trying trying to make like a toddy out of this or something? It

would be odd.

Well, I like odd.

Yeah. Sure. That's what he's all about. Sure.

But not in a

good odd way.

Wait a minute. Not in

a good odd way.

No. But this is

Yeah. I don't know how I feel about it.

Yeah. I I mean,

I think it's very unique.

Yep.

It is I I know I'm tasting a beer. My mouth feel has a beer feel to it.

Yeah.

But the flavor is so unique. So unique. Anyways,

I think we'll start with you. Yep. It's Yeah. It's me starting out here. Wow. Yeah. That that that's got me kind of reeling a little bit. That that's so unique. Alright. So, we were talking a little bit during the break and I did talk up a

lot of anime and I haven't talked about anime yet. You were like, my first instinct was anime.

Was anime and But that's not

the first

So, talk I I feel obligated to talk about anime. And what I will say is, I have a kind of a a longer list that I was telling these guys that I was just kinda like, oh, vibes when we're recording. I'll choose one. I will say I have a couple of runner ups. One of those is a Haze weapons from Darker Than Black.

And I'm not.

It is basically a grim dark sci fi series where there is basically a an artificial intelligence essentially that will basically predict whether or not you're gonna commit a crime. So it's like thought crime police.

So it's like minority report?

Yeah. I believe.

You've never seen it?

Nope. Not seen it. Sorry.

Yeah. It is. If that's what that is.

So so Yeah. So what minority report is is that they have three I was gonna say psychos, psychics in there and they can determine if someone's about to commit murder. And they send out this ball whenever they have a thought together, the three of them, and the ball has a name on it. And then they, the police go out and arrest this guy before he commits a crime.

Oh, then, yeah. That is basically psychopaths. Yeah. So the these guns will when you like point it at someone, it will bring up their name and like what crime they like are gonna commit. And then there there's some options in like the gun like you can go for like a non lethal or of course it's got like lethal option which happens a lot in the show.

It's hard to believe in anime.

Yeah. The the show basically is a critique on like, I mean, on where the future is going, on police brutality, on AI information. Yeah. On AI information, which is crazy because gosh, this is an older show. Definitely not the oldest in terms of like the grim dark sci fi, but Budd, you're bleeding. Oh my gosh. You are bleeding.

I don't know why.

Okay. Here.

This is a first during the podcast. Sorry. First aid really quick.

Oh my gosh, there's blood everywhere. Just kidding. No. Yeah. Yeah. For those just listening via audio, our father perhaps has picked a scab on his arm and is now cleaning it up a little Cleaning up

a little bit.

He's he's

Don't know don't know where that scab came from.

Alright. Yeah.

I'm fine. Yeah. If I collapse, you'll know why.

But yeah. I mean, I think the the the the guns themselves are unique. I mean, they're basically like futuristic guns where they like lock on to people. They bring up their name. There's like the biometrics where like only the gun owner can use it.

And I think an interesting aspect of the show is it does sort of tackle the main like concern about it where it's like the investigators are humans and they're like, alright, Gun, this is an obviously bad person, we need to take him down. And the gun goes, I'm not detecting any issues with it, I'm not going to be used.

Yeah. Yes.

You know, and it's like, it's this awful like, robot versus human, where the human's like, this is a true criminal that, you know, they have committed a crime, but the gun is like, nope, they're good.

It it does bring up like ethics and morality too. Yeah.

Well, I mean, because, yeah, because they're human, it's not so cut and dry.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah. And, obviously, in a society like this, there are people that are looking for like ways to get around it or we're seeing the like AI believes that certain people shouldn't be punished or other people who in like our opinions probably shouldn't be punished like very harshly or

Yeah.

At all are are being punished. Punished. And of course, it goes into this like, is this person really committing a crime? Like Yeah. So yeah. It's a very unique the show itself, but also the the guns and and this sort of concept, which I think is something that's come up in media and fiction a lot is this idea of like canned thought crimes like a if you're thinking about something be

A crime.

Yeah. Yeah. Be persecuted. Yeah. And so

mean, it's a it's a it's a relevant topic now, you know. Sure. Because you look at where England is persecuting people for just saying stuff.

Sure. Yeah. England's not the only place England.

Yeah. Anyways, I will go next.

Yeah. Do it. Alright. You're taking lead here. I am taking yeah. Well

He was gonna talk the ton anyway, but

He's ready to go. He's losing blood.

What's it's it's funny. We've done a lot more talking in this one rather than on the topics that we picked, but it's been very interesting in my

Yeah. I think, you know, weapons are a cool thing to highlight, but usually around the context or the the, you know, the full, you know, impact of them makes them more important.

I mean, I think if you look at like a game, one weapon doesn't make the whole game. The the it's usually

Hold on now.

Yeah. But but what I for a game, oftentimes, the uniqueness of the weapon is part of

the draw. Right.

Yeah. The hidden blade in Assassin's Creed made those games for a long period of time.

I mean, when you think about Infamous, you think about the the amp bat

that Right.

That Cole McGrath has.

And although there's other weapons, you think about the Leviathan Axe from God of War or the Blades of Chaos from God of War. Yep. Yep. There's there's so many iconic, you know, weapons. Right? It's like

I The Gears of War chainsaw guns. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Like I said, this this topic is so broad.

There's so many. Like I said, like, this might be the first of many. We're just, you know, getting dipping our toes in the water to see what what happens.

Alright. So once again, because I am the oddball here. Oh, yes. I decided to go with once again a practical item and this one's a little bit fun. Recently, my wife and I decided that we were gonna go through Disney and start watching the old cartoons. And I I don't when I say old cartoons

I was about to say.

When I say old cartoons, I'm not talking about the original Snow White. I'm talking about, you know, Frozen and things like that that are really from the last fifteen or so years that we've that we've never seen or we've only seen once or twice. And we happen to be watching Tangled. And Tangled is really one of my favorite cartoons modern cartoons.

Tangled is good.

And the weapon in Tangled was a frying pan.

It was a horse.

But in the end, the guards, the royal guards used frying pans.

It's true.

And so I forgot about that. They armed themselves. So I just said that, that's such a unique weapon and and once I said that, everyone started going, well, it's also a weapon of opportunity. We talked about someone had started mentioning other places where frying pan is used as

Lord of the Rings. Samwise Gamgee.

Yep. And so Wow. Yeah. I forgot about that too. That's the guy.

That's the guy right there. He didn't get a fun cool elvish blade. No. He had to be rocking up with the with the frying pan.

But yeah, there's a lot of times in a lot of comedies, the weapon of opportunity is usually a frying pan or something like that.

That's true. Tom and Jerry.

Tom and Jerry and things like that. So, I love Tango. I love the idea of the frying pan and And it was a beast. It was a beast. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, like the I'm sure the when it was getting written, it was like, how do we stop Imperial guards Yeah. From chasing these two without it always being a chase? And then they're like, well, the obvious conclusion is we have to stop them from chasing, but we can't kill them. Yeah.

Yeah. I think also part of the messaging of Tangled is that like looks cannot always be trusted.

Yeah.

And there are a lot of unassuming things like Rapunzel herself looks very unassuming is you assume this quote unquote damsel in distress at first. And even with like, I've got a dream that like entire bar in that scene are all just like dudes that have dreams and like have feelings and you wouldn't necessarily know that at first by looking at them.

And I think that, you know, when they initially portray her as she they portray her as someone they can't even talk to her mother.

Right.

Yeah. As very weak. And so, when you look about where she started and also what does she have available to her in her apartment. Yeah. The frying pan really is Apartment is a funny way is

Her

high rise. But the only thing she really has is the frying pan and so it's something she's comfortable with and she knows she's had every day as a thing. I mean, could have easily picked up, I don't know, a mirror or picked up a stool or something like that. It would not have been The

return of the wooden bench. Honestly, the stool would go hard. The stool would have been crazy. Beat a bunch of people up and then sit down.

Yeah. But, you know, it's it's it is part of I I think it it it represents her starting with something comfortable and using that to go forward to advance. So.

Yeah. Alright, Nick. Bring us up. Yeah.

Bring us home. Finish it off. Will bring out an anime as well. I feel like we were extremely tame on our anime picks.

I think so too.

For for what could have been chosen because anime truly has the craziest and most absurd weapons. Yeah. And none of us chose it, not even for my last pick. And that might be a separate thing. We have like a absurd weapon one.

And what I will say, sniper rifle might be like a bit of a gen. It's like a laser It's laser cannon. Yeah.

Crazy. Yeah. It can't snipe, but like when the pinch is happening.

It's it's a cannon.

Yeah. Like evaporating like mountain Exactly. And the the Garat wire for his trump card gets even stronger and practically unbreakable, and it's called like infinite uses, but it has the spool that never ends. And it's just like such a fascinating weapon a lot of times. I was for for When we were thinking about weapons, was like, the coolest weapons are always the ones that are are the most versatile.

This is why live action anime failed.

Yeah. For many reasons. Oh, for for many reasons.

For so many reasons. But, yeah. In this way, you can't really like hold people up via these wires or even the idea of like moving around with these wire gloves is like impossible. I mean, it's kind of impossible for Spider Man, but at least you can be like, oh, well, it's like a sticky web. It just like shoots out, hits something

to it. Yeah. But this is like,

I'm swinging no.

Yeah. I think it's it's we we've talked about this before is that the animation allows you to do just really incredible things.

Yeah. Exactly. And I think I think other people need to recognize that this is why it's in that format.

Yeah. You know? Exactly.

Yeah. Exactly. It's gotta stay there.

Yeah.

I think the fun thing about Akame Ga Kill is all of the characters are purposefully very unique and distinct and Yeah. Because of that, their weapons also mimic and mirror that being like very distinct. Even when there are characters that are similar, they have slightly different weapons to ensure that that they are unique enough.

Yeah. A really cool one, Akame Ga Kill or Akame. Yeah. I mean, the the show that then the character the character that the show is named after.

Yeah, but it feels like Tatsumi is actually

the Anyway, main I mean, he is the main character. But it's named after this this

It's such a

cool Yeah. Whatever.

Her weapon is very very cool. It looks like a typical katana. However, if anyone but the user is cut by it, they die immediately. They die.

Yes. Wow.

So a little nick on your arm, dead. You're you're gone. It's like, oh, yep. Your arm But is like, when her trump card is she cuts herself with it and goes like extremely like, uber powered Yeah. And like, you know, super senses and whatever. Like, the it's it's like a demon blade and it's like the the blade is coated with this demon blades demon's blood. And when the user, you know, does it to themselves, then they become part demon. It's so anime. It is so anime. It's so anime.

I will say, I think, Akamega Kill gets bad rep. And I think we've talked about Akamega Kill on the podcast before. I don't know if we have. But, I think

it

it is very cheesy, a little campy. But, I think some of those that's kind of fun. Like, it plays into some of those anime anime tropes like really hard. And, that's kind

of part of the fun of it. It's part of the fun.

I think it's one of those shows that you can't too seriously.

No, but it tries to take itself too seriously. That's an issue where you try and be light hearted with the show because it is so absurd and crazy, but the show just keeps trying to ground itself on like the darkest, most serious themes. Yes. Like kidnapping, political corruption, public executions, like a lot of really really grim things that they're actively showing the person. Yep. While being like, we're quirky. Yeah.

So how many seasons this

is It's just one and that was too much to be honest.

Yes. Yes. Alright. Before we run out of time, I will say we have so many other weapons to talk about. We didn't even talk about like mechs general. I know. As like a very popular anime weapon, but

We didn't even bring up

a sword. Yeah. We didn't even bring

up We did.

We gotta we gotta have a

sword episode. We'll have we'll have more and we'd love to hear what y'all think down in the comments as well. And don't forget, like, subscribe, But

before that

Well, but yeah. Before we go, really quick, what is everyone's favorite alcohol or favorite drink that we had tonight? Dad, we'll start with you.

I think I'm a go with the pumpkin.

Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's very unique.

I mean, I like the shanty a lot. I was disappointed in the grapefruit.

Yeah. Yeah.

But I think I'm a go with this one just because it was unique and full body.

Alright, Nick. I will also choose the imperial pumpkin. I thought it was so fascinating and so rich and was truly the most outstanding flavor tonight.

This doesn't happen often, but I think we're all in agreement here and I think a part of that is we all like that very weird and strange kind of vexing flavor when you push an alcohol to its limits here. And I I agree. I think the Imperial Pumpkin was weird and unique and very robust in flavor. It was awesome. I liked it.

And it's and nothing to take away from the first two. They were very

I I love the shandy. Yeah.

The shandy was great. Grapefruit, like you said, a little disappointing but still easy drinking,

honestly. Yeah. Easy. Can't go wrong.

Think Eirwerks, we did six of their beers and we had two other ones that we also Yeah. Don't I think it was they were all they were all drinkable Yeah. At the very amount

of them.

Yep. I'm I'm a big fan of Ale)werks. Can't go wrong with them. But that'll do it for today's episode. Thank you all so much for sticking around. We went off topic so much, but thanks for bearing with us. We love the ability to just be able to talk and rant and ramble. We will catch you next time. Thank you all so much. See you again.

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