Hello and welcome back to three hamster boys podcast. I'm one of your hosts Alexander. Joining me is my younger brother Nick Younger. And our father Jeff. Older. Oh, there we go. We're arranged Yes.
As such.
Oh, that that's true. Did we do this on purpose?
No. No. No.
It just happened as it has as it did. Yeah. Today, I think we had a bit of a unique idea for the episode in the fact that we love talking about movies, but we also realize that there are a lot of blind spots not just for the three of us as a family, but also individually. So our task for this week and I guess last week as well was to give each other a movie or give the other two a movie that they hadn't seen for them to watch it for us to not talk about it, which was actually really difficult. Really difficult.
And then come back here and talk about the movies that we all watched and kind of kind of our our first impressions, our thoughts. I've got my phone here. I've got a bunch of notes about the the movies. Before we get into the movies though, Nick well, actually, here's what I'll say. We're talking about three movies in-depth here, which means that there certainly will be massive spoilers.
A lot
of spoilers. A lot. We will probably say very important aspects.
Yes. The three movies, just so that you're aware, is Red Line, Memento, and Fences. So if you're planning on watching those three movies, just know those are the movies we're talking about.
None of them are new.
None of them are new. No. Yes. So we we are past that like grace period
of spoilers. The most recent movie of the three is Fences. Because it came out in 2016. 2016. Yep.
That's still almost ten years old.
Yeah. Crazy to think about. Alright. Before we start dating ourselves anymore, Nick, what are we drinking today?
Hey. So we are on to another beer episode. Always exciting to return to that. And this is from a place called Patch Brewery out in Gordonsville. And you and I, once again without Alexander.
But this time with our mother.
Our mother. Our mother. Your called
mother, my wife. Your
wife, yes.
We went out there. We did a small little flight and we got to taste a good variety,
which we were pretty happy with.
And, so we're starting off with a it's called the VIP, or the Very Italian Pilsner. Oh. Yeah.
So one thing I will say about this is we went to this place right after it opened up and we tasted the beers that they had and you could tell that they were still learning.
This
time when we went there, this has been three years, four years now.
Yeah, I think so.
It was a huge leap forward. Huge leap forward. And the variety of beers was much greater because I think they had four beers or five beers when we went through the first time. Wow. So this I is was really impressed
with them. Was a good time. Heck yeah. But without further ado, this is the very important very Italian Pilsner. I'm not really expecting I'm expecting a very clean, drink, something that like little little wets the tongue. It I think it's a good start. It shouldn't be anything
Woah. Let me try that.
It is it is very good. Has almost a citrusy taste to it. Woah. So that it really took me back back because I love there's a a type of beer in Germany that I always get, which is called a Radler, which is a beer with lemon. And this gives me a very citrusy taste to it.
This is also much fuller than I was expecting. I was expecting a very light sort of, like, clean in and out. This one is is slightly heavier. It's a very full experience. I'd honestly, pretty solid start.
Yeah. I mean, think about a warm summer afternoon drinking this would be it would really hit the spot. Cool.
I I like
it comes in for me at least a little subtle. I think there is a little bit of that notes of citrusy, and then there's more of that the wheatier taste. Yep. A little hoppy. Yeah. Yep. Yep. It's like wheat hops, not as an aftertaste. I was gonna use the word aftertaste because it happens after that initial thing. Yeah. But it's still, like, in in the moment.
It's like an aromatic. Yeah. It sort of, like, lingers.
Yep. You know, for me, this is perfect for I
love this. Honestly, yeah. I'm You know? I can see this going by down really fast.
What's already gone down pretty fast Yeah. For
All of us have definitely said, oh, this is pretty good. We're gonna
So this is a thumbs up for this.
Most of the stuff we drink are
Yeah. Drink it.
Yeah. Yep.
So I'll start with the movie.
Because it was your movie.
It was your movie.
Yeah. So I recommended that the other two watch Red Line. Should I give a little synopsis?
Okay. Okay.
Alright. I wasn't sure if I was gonna make a of you do the synopsis or if I'll do
the synopsis. I think it's gonna get messier. That's true. I know. We might need help with each other really formulating on how to to give a synopsis for the next two movies.
Yeah. Yes.
Okay. So Red Line is an animated movie. It's an anime. It follows this main character JD who is like your typical, like racing bad boy. And it is like a mixture of initial d drag racing with like the Star Wars pod racing. It's almost an homage to speed racer Yeah. A lot. Yeah. Where it's cool crazy looking cars that also have like weird mechanics or like weapons. And a lot of the races are like a no holds bar kind of situation.
They're death races. Yeah. They're they're death races. And the the red line is the the biggest race of the world you need of Of the galaxy. Galaxy, basically. Yeah. You need to earn enough points in smaller races like the yellow line or the blue line.
Yeah. You do qualifiers to
get them.
Yeah. To qualify. And so JD by gosh. His name is JD. Right? I think so. JP? JP. There it is. I knew something was up.
It? It's sweet JP?
It's sweet yeah. Gosh. Anyways, JP And we all watched this together. Yeah.
We did we did
actually all watch this together. We were dead talk about it.
Yeah. I will yeah. Okay. We so it was a weird experience. Yeah. It was like very like usually like we like do back and forth and like, you know, if I'm watching something together, we'll we'll say something. Was like the most quiet I think our living room had ever been.
Yeah. And it and it's kind of odd, especially for an anime movie to be silent because usually there's so many comments going back and forth and whatever.
Well well, here here's what I'll say. JP by happenstance qualifies for the red line and the movie just escalates from there. Yeah. And, basically, a large chunk of the movie is them racing on the red line and the shenanigans that happens. It's like wacky races. Because of that.
Yeah. And because they're racing on a planet that doesn't want them to race on.
Yeah. Exactly.
So so that adds conflict into it.
But, yeah. I think it it'd be better if I get your opinions on before I kind of give some of my thoughts and feelings about the movie. Dad, did you like the movie? Would you watch it again?
I did like the movie. It reminded me so I don't know what year the movie came out.
O nine.
O nine. It reminded me of some of the animated stuff I watched in the eighties. So it had that nostalgic feel. If you've ever watched a movie Heavy Metal, which is a bunch of heavy metal bands that have cartoons written to their their songs. So you have like Black Sabbath and some other some really Devo was in that was one of the songs that did it.
And it had that kind of art style from that time period. And so I really liked it. It felt very comfortable to watch it. Plus, I think that if you look at it once again, big Star Wars fan that had that component to it that reminded me of the Star Wars movies, the racers. And I I just thought it was it was it seemed familiar to me and not that out of my realm of what I would watch. Yeah. I mean, I think I have a tendency to watch movies that are comfortable and easy to watch over and over again.
Yeah. Yeah.
So I think that could easily go into my action adventure rotation.
I think so.
Yeah. Well, here's what I'll say. I think that sometimes in anime, there are tropes that are difficult for newer watchers to understand or get into. Yeah. And I think that this movie is both very stylistic, very, like, appealing in a very unique way. But also the tropes that they use are more, like, racing tropes rather than more anime tropes to a certain extent. Well, mean, if we you talked
about Speed Racer when that movie came out or you look at the cartoon. Yeah. It's not that far off from what the scenarios that they did in that. Mhmm. Only a little bit funnier or more, you know, not comedic, but more slapstick than speed racer. Speed racer was very calm. Yeah. Kind of toned down from what that is. Yeah.
Okay. I think
to some extent.
Yeah. I was supposed say speed racer calm. I don't know if I
Not calm, but I mean less less adult.
Sure. Yeah. To to to an extent. But also I think the joy of animation is you can push things a little bit further where like JP is like skipping his car like a rock while he's spinning, like, three sixty over and over again. Yeah. Don't think you can necessarily do that quite as well in something like Speed Racer. And, Nick, what were your thoughts?
Oh, I loved it. Honestly, such a great time. I I I agree with that. It was, a really easy watch. Yeah. Like,
Yeah. The next movie. I think there is
a little bit of like comparatively on like what other things I've seen. But no honestly like I mean it's a really solid anime movie. Like the thing with like from my perspective on if it's an anime movie I'm like yeah someone someone like put their foot in it usually like most of the stuff that's like this is an anime movie you should watch it I recommend it usually it's got like really good something really special about it. And I agree with you it is more racing trope Yeah. Than anime tropes.
Like they're I watch it and I'm like I understand the dynamic. Like you already understand the characters even if you don't watch anime, even if you know if you're like oh it's this guy pushing himself to see the end of the race. Right you're like I get it he wants to win alright?
And there's always that there's some sort of criminal influence that could impact them. Yeah.
Right. In this case, you have a character and you want him to be good and therefore the thing holding him back is not the necessarily the the character in driving flaws, but the things that he's gotten himself mixed up. Yeah, the obstacles.
Yeah. But no, was really fun. I liked it's so artistic and stylish. The main character has this huge like pompadour hair that's like sticking out. It's like he looks like a like over the top like archetype of like if you're like, I want I want an anime version of someone from Greece.
It's like Johnny Bravo. Yeah. Johnny Bravo. Because though in the middle of all the fighting that he would do, he'd always pull out the comb. That's exactly what JP did. He pulled out the comb. Yeah. Oh, what? You're gonna fix that motor? You know?
Yeah. Yeah.
He pulled out the comb. It it reminded me a lot of what the Johnny Bravo character did.
Yeah. It's true. It's it's a very, like, American, like, over the top, but, like, he's such a charming character. You're, like, yeah. Alright. I I believe you. I wanna fight for you, you know?
Yeah. In a way though, it it does kind of hit some of the older, like, like anime sort of Japanese tropes of, like, the delinquent character Yeah. Having that sort of, like, big hair Oh, yeah. Wearing, like, the leather jacket. Oh, yeah. And I love that. Okay. Alright. I I had I rewatched the movie with with y'all. Yes. And I had a lot of kind of things that He took notes. Yeah. I I took notes. I took notes for all the
movies.
We were just like watching.
Yeah.
Well, it's the first time like we said, we both had seen it. This was the first time we've
seen
I've seen this movie several times. Yeah. My my main thing while I was in there, very stylistic. I highly recommend looking at at the art. It's just so cool.
And I think something else that I think is really cool and unique about it is the animation that they do of the cars speeding up. I think especially in a racing movie or animation, you really wanna give what your characters are doing power. Yeah. Especially, you know, nitro is a very, like, popular thing. In this anime, they have little capsules that they put into their their card, like, transmission or whatever console.
And the way that they show the nitro affecting people is slightly different for everyone, but the animation of the car speeding up, whether it's, like, the car taking a second, like, lagging behind and then, like, boosting forward Yeah. Or, like, everything like elongating because they're just like going so fast. They're they're
That even the camera is barely keeping up with. Exactly. You're like, I gotta pull this camera out because like the I can't keep up with it.
Yeah. And I I love that because it gives so much weight to them using these, like, speed ups. Yeah. In a very cool way.
Well, mean, like I said, I love the art style. Yeah. I mean, it just was in order to show motion or feel motion, they did a lot of cool things around the car. Yeah. Because it wasn't just that the car was moving, it was that the environment around it was impacted by that speed. Yeah. It's true. Yeah. And they used a lot of colors to kind of enhance that.
So such a vibrant movie. Yeah.
I mean, think that when you look at it, say because even like when they looked at like the sunsets and sunrises, there was just this great palette of colors that were that they were doing it. That's why I said I loved it. I think the story was was was a good story, but I loved the artwork in it. I just loved watching it and looking at it.
Yeah. Now the other art that we haven't mentioned.
Oh, it's the music. It's the music. I was gonna talk about it. It starts off with quiet. These like crowd the movie starts with like, you're on like a racetrack, you're seeing a crowd of people, there's like very minimal music, and you're just listening to the ambiance.
And they're like, God, they're almost here. You're like, you hear the announcers like, they're making their way. And like, you don't see the cars, and it's such a such a great beginning. I wanted to talk about this specifically. The start of the movie gets you right into it. Yeah. It's quiet. You're like you hear the wind. You see the people like chatting, know, are smoking, playing cards. They're like
You're chinking of tools. That's what I remember. You hear tools chinking and like air guns in the background. It's like a mild garage sound.
Yeah. Background. You hear like a very ambient like, oh, oh, we're getting into it. And you hear these announcers like so vibrant and you're like, oh, what's happening? And then you hear like across the way and you hear like the rev of an engine or like the the the skirting of tires and like everyone in this crowd like looks over and then like there's a science silence and it goes again and then you just start hearing like heavy drum and bass start playing and then it's panning between all these cars and you hear the engines and you hear the tires like moving out and you're you're they're switching between all of them and back to the crowd and it's such this incredible symphony of the sounds of the cars and this just heavy drum and bass going on to really set the scene.
Yeah. I mean, I think every song in the soundtrack in the soundtrack is a bop. Everything is so good. I'm like I'm like I was dancing while we were watching because everything is just so good, and it gets you in that. And I think we we've talked about this in the past together, but something that makes, like,
a good
racing media is music. And I think need for speed is something that has always been striving to make sure that they have good music. So for me, it's just kind of like a staple. Like, if it's a racing, like, movie show video game it has to have The music has
to be on point.
Music Otherwise you're muting it and playing your own music.
Yeah. Exactly. Because the music it it's it's almost like the fantasy of your like if I'm racing What's the radio playing? What's the what's the Exactly. It's like ingrained and it's like I need some crazy music going on.
I would say Crazy Taxi started this fundamentally. Yep. You know? Where you're like, gotta get there and like on the background you're, wow. You know, like crazy like punk music that's like over the top and you know it's it's like a yeah it's like very like seventies eighties like rock music just like screaming like as you play.
Well you like you talk about the the punk drummers are just fast, the sticks are going. Yep. And the the guitar just playing one chord over and over again but faster and faster. Yeah. Did you need anything?
There's something satisfying when everything is moving fast and the and it's it's funny. It's the music keeps up with has to keep up with the cars.
The car pace.
Exactly. So it's like, oh, if the cars are moving slow, you're like, ah, the music can be a little slower. But if the nitro is hitting, the music has to be the heartbeat like pumping fast.
Yeah. And usually there's something that's beating with that music also. Yeah. Whether it's the light blinking or the flashing of lights going by or something like that it's causing or like when they put the nitro in and the the gas the fuel started pumping Yeah. So it's just it's one of those things where part of part of the art of the anime needs to be enhanced by music. Now we talk we've talked about this with movies before where sometimes silence is what you need.
Yeah.
But for a scene, it has to have energy.
Oh, yeah.
You need that music to be present.
Oh, yeah. You know?
Alright. One more thing that I wanna harp on as, like, a good thing and then something I do wanna talk about is perhaps a drawback that I wrote down. I love anime that has a little bit of everything, and I think Red Line is one of those that has a little bit of everything. It's predominantly a racing movie, but you can find snippets of anything else that you want. There's a little bit of romance in there.
That's
true. There's a little bit of crime in there. Yeah. There's a kaiju battle. There's magic. There are like like Batman style vigilantes in there. Yeah. Mecca? Yeah. There's a little bit of Mecca. The characters the other racers have their own little vignettes where you're like, oh, these could be like fleshed out characters in their own thing.
They had cool character introductions for everyone in the race, So you knew all the players. Yeah. And it would be like, today we're talking about these two racers. Yeah. And they all have like these stylish like intros and you're like, oh, okay. Know.
Well, the other thing is
that they did so well.
They also added the evil planet and the monster coming out.
Yeah. They're setting all these like seeds that are like, oh you know what's gonna happen. They're not hiding anything. They were very transparent on what it's not a The movie isn't full of depth, which makes it even easier to watch. They're like, They gotta stay away from Zone X-thirteen or whatever. And you're like, They're gonna go to X-thirteen. And they go to X-thirteen and you're like, Woah, crazy. It's it's forever. Yeah. Agree.
There there's aspects that you'd be like, I like this moment the most.
Yeah. And I I think a part of that is what you mentioned is the movie doesn't really have a lot of depth, and because of that, I feel like the ending is is perhaps its weakest feature.
I agree.
Where I it ends in I think a bit of a strange way but it ends and then the movie is over. And the
credits roll and you're
like, Yeah.
Oh, oh, it really ended.
No. They're like, they touch the finish line and the credits are rolling, and you're like, Oh, okay. We're we're done.
I think it's even stranger than that. Because if it's like, they they finish the finish line and credits roll, you're yeah. Epic 2008 vibes. Yeah. Yeah. But it was they crossed the finish line and then the JP Oh,
the bright.
Yeah. And the love interests are like floating in at or in like there's like space in there and like they're like, I love you and then the other one's like I love you too and then they kiss and then that's how it ends and I'm like
woah alright.
I don't get it.
Yeah. I
don't get it. Yeah. I was like so what happened? Where's the end? You know, so many times I hate endings of movies.
Yes.
Yeah. Because we talked about we talked about a different movie where we were saying it looks like they ended it because they ran out of money or the timeline got in there. Yeah. Okay, we need to end this Friday to wrap it up.
Yeah. It's always an external force, but yeah, because
I don't think I don't think like the monster versus the mech, I don't think that was ever concluded. It just seemed incomplete.
Well, the satellite nuked it once and then the other guy found another monster to go monster mode on. But, like, again, it's like a side plot that doesn't even matter.
That's like a The the movie's filled with loose ends, but you're
like, yeah. That's not the point.
It's not the red line. It's it's not the red line. Right. Exactly. We're focused on the red line.
Okay. Well, I mean, if you say that then ending the movie when the race ends kind of high.
Yeah. Feels where they're floating. It's like, I love you. And I love you too. And you're like, yeah, you can surmise that they probably got together no matter what. If if it I'm telling you, it would be so 2008 if boom, crossed the line, cheering credits all you're like, alright. That's and then, like, heavy rock music, like, that's the most 2008 movie.
You know
what I'm saying? That is fair. You're right. I I and I think when I'm thinking about the ending, I am thinking about them, like, floating kind of corporally up into, like, I love you.
Yeah. It's very strange.
You're right. It is a bit strange. But overall, I think the movie is a very fun watch and definitely like a Friday night with pizza kind of vibe
Oh, yeah.
It's like you're looking for something fun. It's weird. It's wacky. It's got a little bit of everything.
Not much to recommend. I think it's an hour and
a half.
Yeah. Ninety minutes.
So yeah. Maybe a little bit more, but but also it's it's it's a pretty wide audience. I mean Yeah. You know, I think it's it hits it's not gonna be too heavy for people. It's just it's not it's gonna be able to hit a cross section. If you if you don't know what everyone wants to watch, it's a it's a nice movie to watch.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. True.
But it was that I did like it.
Yeah. Recommend. That movie, recommend.
Absolutely recommend it. Yep. Alright. Well, my drink is done. So are y'all. So let's move on to the next drink and the next movie. We'll see you in a second. And we are back. We've got three new glasses with a similar looking alcohol. I'm not gonna lie. It's it's beer. Yeah. Do we have a dark? So okay. We we we have a dark so it'll look a little a little different.
This one looks a little bit more golden.
More golden.
Yeah. Nick, what are we drinking?
So this is the Home Run Heffer which is a Hefferweisen. And the special thing about this one is that it is Patch's gold medal winner. It is their most reputable or most accolated drink. When we were there, we tried the silver, Right. Which was I think it was an ale or a lager.
I think it was an ale. Yeah.
Either way, I missed out.
That one was probably the best we tried.
Golden lager. That's what it was. It's a golden lager.
Yeah. Oh, I definitely missed out.
That one was really good.
It was called the Goldensville
or something like that. The Goldensville.
Unfortunate that Goldensville got silver. It's true. Yeah. Very delicious.
So I'm expecting a lot from this one, honestly. Yep. Heck yeah. Tink. Tink. I'm expecting a more full even more full taste and hopefully some notes of a little something extra to really push it over the edge. Uh-oh.
Oh. There's something extra in there. Yeah. Nick. That one really hits. Gotta
try a
little bit of that one.
Yeah. That one really hits. It's almost almost salty. Almost I I can't quite get the taste. It is
It's like taffy.
It like a saltwater taffy.
Yeah. Okay. I can I can kinda see that? It's it's got like this or yeah. It it tastes like like a like a saltwater taffy, kind of.
Got like Which is not as sweet.
No, no. But it is sweet.
Yeah. Very, very different.
Oddly enough, it's like the aftertaste of banana Laffy Taffy.
No. Yeah. Now that you said that, I definitely can see what you're saying. Yep. It's odd. It is odd.
I like it though. We
have a tendency to like odd.
Yeah. Well, not all odd. Sometimes
Yeah. Orange creamsicle is not gonna work.
That is one that lives in infamy and I'm so excited for when we do our least favorite drinks. Whenever we discuss that. Yeah. It'll Yeah. Yeah. Alright. So my movie was Red Line. Dad, you chose the movie Memento.
So I chose Memento mainly so here's why I chose it. It is a very unique format because it the movie plays from now back to the past. So it runs backwards through the whole movie. And the the concept is that there is a guy that has had a head injury and he has no short term memory to the point that if he falls asleep or there's a gap of time between him doing something and doing something else, he will not remember it. It doesn't even he doesn't have to be asleep.
He doesn't even have to be asleep. It could just be a space of time.
It could take ten seconds.
Yeah. And so
Well, a part of it is also triggered by the sound of a door closing. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Because Yeah. Anyways, so this So the reason he had a head injury was you find out how I guess halfway through the movie is that his wife was killed. Yep. And when he was trying to fight off the guy that was trying to kill his wife, he landed on the floor, got his head injured, and then he can't remember.
There's so many different storylines in this and so many different things going on, because there's a storyline of he was an insurance agent and he saw this example of this other person. Excuse me, who you don't know whether it's real or not. So the and so in order for him to try to remember these scenes, he ends up tattooing what he believes is facts onto his body. Yep. Yeah.
And he also takes he has a has a Polaroid Polaroid attached to him all time. So he's always taking pictures and writing on it. And so but as you're watching it, you can see where there's flaws in everything he does because he's he no matter how hard he tries, because he says and throughout the thing, says, if you have a system, you can manage this. But even while he's he has a system and he thinks he's managing it, he's really not managing it. He's being manipulated.
He's being used. And no matter how hard he tries, he will never know what is true and what's not true.
I think for me, one of the bigger twists in the movies and again, big spoiler alert. It's almost, I think, impossible to talk about this movie without spoiling anything. Yeah. For me, the bigger twist is that, yes, it it like, you go you start the movie going, okay, he's like on the trail of the guy and he's like investigating. It sounds like he hasn't managed.
And then you the one of the twist is like, oh, well, he's actually being manipulated. And then I think it twists back into he wants to be manipulated.
Yeah.
Like, in a way, he is manipulating the people to manipulate him so that he can continue living this sort of weird investigative revenge killer. Yeah. This fantasy that he's created for himself in order to feel sane in a way. Yeah. It is
it is a it is such a different format.
Yes. And when when when you had mentioned this movie in the past, when you said it it went in reverse, I didn't know what that meant. Because I was like, how do you like, is everything just backwards? Like, these actors just learned how to say things with the But I think the first note I the I wrote in my in my logbook was is is it's an insane start, and you don't even realize it's moving in reverse until because he's the very beginning, like the opening credit scene, he's standing over a dead body.
Yep.
And you don't realize it's in reverse until the slow motion of him flicking the Polaroid. And it fading. And it slowly fading Strong
imagery. Yeah. What a that Christopher Nolan guy.
Yeah. So that's what was gonna say. Let's let's kind of look at who the director is. This is one of his first works that he did. It may be his first major film work. Wow. Because this was '98, February.
February.
Yeah, February. So this is really one of his first works long before the Batman stuff that he did.
Yeah.
And then because I think before Batman, did like Christopher Columbus or someone like that. Nice. Yeah. So this is really one of his first ones. And the main actor is Guy Pearce.
Yeah.
Who who I see in different roles. I was I never remember for
you. It's always.
Yeah. I never remember his name. But he plays such a great role and there's so many like Teddy, who is in the movies, has been a supporting actor in hundreds of movies, it seems. Yeah. And so I think that and the way the way it goes in reverse is kind of funny because you'll the scene will start at a point and you'll go to the end of that scene and then all a sudden you'll revert to the next scene and the next scene will end at exactly where
the previous scene started.
Yeah. Which is So it's like small cuts backwards.
It's answering all the all the questions every scene were, how did we get here? Yeah. And then the next scene answers it and you're like, oh.
But how did we get there?
Yeah. And then you go
to the scene before it is. For me, it was because it was such a unique format. That's what made it. I think it's a good story also, you know, I just I think anyway, I'll let you guys talk about rather than me. We'll start with you, Alexander. What did you think about it? Well
This one I I wrote the most notes on. That's all. I one of, like, my second notes was the pacing and the timing of everything. The timeline of how the theories develop and change is whiplash. It is crazy.
Not only that, but in the middle of it, you keep having flashbacks.
Yes. Yes. Which also adds this weird where, like, we have a main storyline that's going and then they're also intermingling black and white flashbacks Yeah. Where you're like, when even did this take place?
Yeah. The only part that you know when it took place was before he got a thigh tattoo. Yep. Exactly. So you're like it's before all that I've seen but maybe not all that you know has been because you don't know when he got
the thigh tattoo. But I I will say I thought the I actually I really enjoyed this movie. I thought it was such a great way to do a mystery. Oh, yeah. In the fact that I was constantly guessing. I love being kept in the dark as an audience member and then learning as the main character.
Do you think he did that so that you could feel the same way that Guy Pierce is
Yeah.
Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I think honestly, I think it would have been even more fascinating if you didn't even do it in chronological or No.
It would that that was one of the other notes that I said is I don't think they needed to do the past scenes in black and white. I feel like they just intermingle those and you're like, when did that
even happen? I think honestly, Christopher Nolan, he could have made it even more convoluted. I was like why are you keeping it Why are you showing us the end Why are you starting us with the end of the last scene? Yeah. It crazier. There
Oh my god. Yeah.
There are so many moments where it's like woah, wait a that I I love having. I I think one of the the big ones that kinda like sent a little like chills down my spine is he's like talking on the phone. He he always talks about this tattoo he has on the inside of his or like over his thumb basically Yeah. That says like remember Sammy Jenkins or whatever his name was.
Jenkins. Jenkins.
Yeah. Sammy Jenkins, which is when he was an insurance person. Sammy was a person who had, like, short term memory loss, blah blah blah blah. Very similar to him and nearly
I mean, this is this is and and that one has multiple flashbacks.
Yes, throughout the yes. And at the end you're like, is this even a real person?
Yeah, because the person you've been following with says, didn't exist, didn't have that, there was no wife. And you're like, I can't trust you. Which I think goes into the whole scheme of it. You can't trust it. There is no reliable narrator. There's no reliable narrator. Because you find out that everyone around the main character and the main character is lying to the main character. Yep. So there's no truth.
Yep. I mean, because it it ends with him saying, well, that's gonna be the way I'm gonna live, then I'm just gonna live the lie.
Yeah. Yeah. But what what I was saying is the the moment that I kinda had is a shiver moment was he's talking on the phone. We've seen a couple scenes. These are the black and white flashbacks.
A couple of him talking on the phone with this person, and he's scratching at a new tattoo that he has covered. And he's scratching at it a little bit, and then he, you know, he's like, yeah, you know, Sammy blah blah blah talking on the phone and he peels back the covering and it's this crazy never answer the phone that he's tattooed on his arm and he immediately goes, who is this? And you hear the the number drop. Yeah. And for me, I was like, woah.
Yeah. Oh my god. What's happening? That was tasty.
That was tasty. Really like that. But there's so many of those moments where you're like, oh, wait a second. Yeah. He killed her boyfriend. Yeah. And it's like, oh my god. Like, there I I feel like a detective. And the way that the movie set up is every new clue is like, this changes everything.
Well, I remember, like, they show the back of a Polaroid for like a half a second and I pause and I'm like,
what did it say?
What did say? Yeah. Zoom Zoom like Enhance.
I was like, what did I say? And it was like, oh, okay. Okay. You know, like, know, and yeah, it is like it pulls you in because you want to be a part of you want to be in the know because the main character isn't.
Yeah. Well, I think also the thing is when you get in the middle of the movie, where you start ends up being a false start. Right. Because like the one is the woman is hit and she's like, oh, I've been beat and whatever. And then the next scene is it ends with him hitting her.
Hitting her. Yeah. But
while while she's talking to her, she's taking all the pens and Yeah. Putting And he can't write down what he saw.
Well, I I will say didn't like that scene too much. This man always should have a pen on him. Yes, sir. It feels weird that he didn't have a pen on him. Absolutely absurd.
No. It's such a fascinating movie on many accounts, and it's only like a real cast of like six.
Yeah. Yeah. No. Because you have like the guy in the hotel.
Bart. Burt. Yep.
You have Teddy.
Teddy. Teddy.
You have Guy Pearce.
Yep. Yep. Natalie. Leonard.
Natalie.
Oh, yeah. Leonard. Leonard is Guy Pearce's name.
Yeah, then you have the boyfriend.
Yep, sort of, not really. Yeah, he's like kind of there.
And then who's the one that he ran out of town?
That's the boyfriend. No, that's not the boyfriend. He kills the boyfriend. The other guy is
Oh the the other drug dealer. Yeah. Dodd. Yeah. Dodd.
Yeah. Dodd's when he ran And the only other person is that old guy at the bar that spits in the cup.
Yep. Yep. Yeah. And then everything else is flashbacks, where it's just you catch glimpses of his wife Mhmm. And then you see Sammy and his wife.
And his wife.
And now that was that was basically it. Yep. Very impressive to do with such a small cast while keeping it so on edge where you're like it's a who done it but you're like the cast is so small but you're like woah,
you know? Plus I also think that it was important I know you you said this wasn't really necessary, but I think it's he used the lighting and the coloring to great effect add. Like, I think by doing some scenes in black and white and some things in color, it it made the contrast seem even more stark. I just think it it just was because to the very end, you you still don't know what the truth is.
And I I think it's it left intentionally.
Yeah. No.
I agree. Again, I think like Nick said, there's no reliable narrator, but we are following the main character. And for him, it doesn't matter.
Yeah. That's the truth. Yeah.
That at the end, that's that's exactly what it was, is that it doesn't matter. Yeah. You know? Because the only thing he remembers is what he wrote down.
Yeah. Yeah. He just wants a purpose of some kind. And in that way, it is crazy.
He set himself up to find the truth. Mhmm. And the truth is literally whatever is in front
of him. Yep. Yeah crazy movie, but I will say I don't know how much rewatch value this has. No. I think the feelings of, like, oh my gosh. Like Yeah. For me, while I was watching that, I was at the edge of my seat the whole time because I was very invested in being a part of the investigation. Yeah. Like, I wanna be like, what's the next clue? Why is that crust out on the Polaroid?
Like, I'm I'm so in there. I think I can rewatch this and appreciate the the uniqueness of this film. I've never seen a film done like this before. Yeah. But I won't get that same, like,
fear is, like, how bad is this movie if you just watch it?
Oh, no. I didn't even think about that.
If you if you just ordered everything in chronological order, how bad is the movie?
Yeah. There we talked about this. There's a director's cut where you can get the movie in chronological
In chronological. I'm actually really curious to watch that.
I don't know. I'd be afraid I'm like
So this how I looked at this movie
It would be a lot shorter. Would it? I feel like.
I don't know.
So how I looked at this movie is like a murder mystery game. You get to play it once.
Yeah. Yeah.
And then you're done.
It's all about first impressions. Yeah.
Because you get there, you get the full feeling and and ups and downs. And then you're done with it. Yeah. But I thought it was, I mean like I said, the reason I picked it was because it was so unique. I thought the story was baffling and overwhelming and just so unique. I love the cinematography in it. I loved how the characters were it wasn't big scenes. Was how they depicted the characters. And I love that they went from black and white to color. I'm not a film guy.
Yeah.
But to me, it impacted me how they did that.
I think from a from a from a film standpoint and an acting standpoint, the most interesting part is that it's always one on one. Yep. There are never three people talking at a scene. Holy cow.
It is. It's it's always this kind of communication.
It is the most intimate conversations. Teddy never talks to Natalie.
Yeah. You're right. Holy cow.
Because when he gets done talking to Natalie, goes out to his car, then Tim and Teddy talk.
The only time there are three people in a scene, it's when Dodd is locked in the closet duct taped.
And doesn't say a word.
And doesn't say a word.
Until he leans in. What's your name? Yeah. Talks to him one on one and then, yeah. Oh my gosh. You're right. I didn't even think about that.
It's so fascinating from that end because it's just the whole movie is just intimate one on ones because as soon as someone gets taken out
of the
scene a new person appears. And it's immediate. It's immediate.
Yeah. It just adds to the unreliable narrator because there's not a third person to verify.
Exactly. There's no eyewitness. It's a whole conversation about him. He's like, would please don't be like, oh I remember this. You can't trust an eyewitness testimony. That was the whole conversation he had with Teddy.
So there is another aspect of this. You showed us the lighthouse.
Yes sir.
That one on one you never knew what was real and
what wasn't. It's literally the same concept. Instead of cabin fever you're just like I can't believe anything.
Yeah Overall, I'm glad that you made us watch this movie. It was weird and crazy. Not what I expected. Not what I expected either.
By the way you and our mom describes it, I was like I don't know if I'll like this.
Yeah.
But like watching it, I'm like, yo, this is really good. Yeah.
But but I but I agree with you. It's I mean, I saw it again. Yeah. Just so I could look at it for this and I and it had it's been I hate to say it, but maybe twenty years since I've seen it.
Yeah. You
know, because I think your mom and I watched it. BC.
Well, she claims that she's never seen it in this entirety. BC.
It came in February. Yeah. I was born.
And so was he actually.
Yeah. You both were born.
Well, maybe it was early year of February.
Oh, whatever. But but, yeah, it was it was
Before consciousness is what he meant.
Yeah. But, yeah, I mean when I watched it the second time or this time wasn't it's not like you it was more from a like deciphering kind of
Yeah. I there it loses it loses the mystique. Right. And there that's fine. Like most murder mysteries just like that's how it'd be. Yeah.
Yeah. Mean, we we talk about this when we buy a murder mystery game. It's only good for one time. Yeah. Play through.
Yep. Yep.
You know?
But yeah. But I
I will say I don't think that devalues it. Like, Agatha Christie books are so good. Yeah. It's just you lose that, like, moment Yeah. From, like, finding who the killer is.
It's not exclusive to murder mysteries. It's just like the first go around usually has the most sense of wonder and like curiosity attached to it. And then if you ever return to it, you're like, yeah, I kind of already know. And like I think you could say that for a lot of media not just the mystery genre.
I think I just mainly attribute it to mystery genres. Oh yeah. Yeah. Because like for
me because it's obvious.
Yeah. I like Redline. The first time I watched it, obviously there was the mystery of being like, what is happening? What's gonna happen next? Yeah. But I still get that like joy of being like, oh, I know what's gonna happen next and it's crazy for no Yeah.
Well, mean, look, you watch it, you know that boy meets girl they're gonna win the race.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's true. Know.
Oh you're right. There's a bit of a predictability in the story already.
Yeah. But yeah. So thumbs up on that movie.
Yeah. Thumbs up.
Thumbs up on that movie.
Yeah. I think if you if you watch it, go in with an open mind. Yeah. And just enjoy the ride.
Yeah. I think you just sort of send it, you know?
Like
Yeah. Don't think too much about it.
We have spoiled this movie too.
You're already at the point where you're
like back.
I guess I should watch it now. You know, we've we've spoiled every piece of it, I think, you know.
There are some parts that we did not spoil.
Yeah, think there's a lot. Yeah, but for the overarching, did spoil it and that's okay. Yeah. We gave the warning, but I will just say, if you've, I don't know, just block If you have short term memory and just forgot everything you said, yeah, take a stab at it. I think it's a very unique experience. And even if we did spoil everything, just the cinematography and how it's paced. Right. Even if you know the mystery, fascinating to watch. Super crazy.
Yeah, think the technical aspect is just really fascinating
to Yeah,
like I said, I've never seen a movie done anywhere like this.
It was the most drastic way to handle the chronological mix up, I think, which is just shoot it in reverse. Yeah. Or like just not even shoot it. Just like show it in reverse. Yeah.
And and yeah, not only show it in reverse, then put these flashbacks
Yeah. You're like, what has happened? Yeah. No. It's it's exciting.
Yep. Well, two of our drinks are finished. Oh.
He had to talk a lot because it was his movie.
Yeah. Alright. All three of our drinks are It's time for another one. We'll catch it in a moment. See you soon. Oh. Oh. Let me do that. 321. Hello and welcome back.
We've got our third and final drink. And as promised, it does look a bit different, although not as dark as I was expecting. It's true. Someone off camera in the downtime said it looks more like a red ale, and I definitely agree with that. More of an amber color than that that very kind of dark brown that I think we're normally used to. Yeah. Nick, what are we drinking though?
So this is Hungry Monks, fun name. It's a Belgian dark, parentheses strong.
Parentheses strong,
I end think it's a
great way to end it. I am expecting this to be the heaviest by a significant margin. I don't know too much else. I'm maybe expecting a more dessert y experience, maybe a little bit more creamy or sort of smooth tones to it to give it to pair well with maybe a dessert.
It has a very unique taste on the end.
It does. It does. You are normally a darker kind of beer.
I love a dark beer. And usually because it's got more of a burnt chocolate aftertaste, but this does not have that.
No. It's got something different.
It's a little bit different aftertaste like it's it's really hard to explain.
I can't I know the feeling. I can't Yeah. I can't find it yet.
It's definitely not ashy.
No. No.
You know? It is unique in the way that when you think of darker beers, you do think of that like chocolatey kind of like Yeah. Aftertaste. This doesn't have it.
No. It No one says a cola.
Yeah. A little bit. I can definitely see that.
Yeah. It's hard to equate that. No.
It it literally does it does feel like a a normal Belgian just kind of turned in a in a different direction.
Interesting spin on it for sure.
Yep. I mean, it is good again. I think that the the all three of them have been drinkable.
I haven't been disappointed.
No. No. Not at all.
No. These have all been very good.
And pretty unique, I would say. Yeah. Each one have like a good aspect to them. Yeah.
And not yeah. Like you said, they're not traditional.
Yeah.
They they have a different taste to them that makes them unique.
I like it. Alright, Nick. The last movie. Talk to us a little bit about your movie and give us a little a little synopsis.
So my movie that I recommended both of them to watch was Fences,
which There will be spoilers here. We will Already a fan favorite from dad, I can say. So
I would say this is the oddity where there isn't a goal compared to the other two. Where yeah and the other two there was a very clear end right you were like I know what we're working towards. Fences takes a more drama route that you are just trying to keep up with all of the sort of stressful and you know things that are happening in this family. So the plot of it, it follows a family in
Pittsburgh.
Yeah Pittsburgh. They're just trying it's weird. It's just like a sort of feeling. It's just people just trying to survive is how I feel it. It's just there is the sort of standard like typical like hard working man trying to provide for his family. There's the hard working wife who's trying to raise their son and also just try and keep the house together while all of this. You have lead Troy, his brother, who's under some sort of he's got some diagnoses of a mental
Well, no. Basically, he was injured in World War II, and he had So a steel plate in his he has you know, like,
mental trauma.
It is some sort of, like Yep. Cognitive. Yep.
And he's there and he is He has
a son from another woman.
Well, you you jumped a little bit here, but
Because the son comes in in one of the first scenes. The grandson.
Oh, okay. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. You're talking about the musician.
Yeah. Yeah.
I I always wanna something lion. I always wanna say lion. Yeah.
So there's all these, like, factors working around this house, and then you have their son that is actively in the house Corey who wants to pursue football wants to pursue his dreams
and he's a senior in high school
he's a senior in high school and the sort of drama among many many many things in this movie is Troy the main guy sort of gave up or didn't have the opportunity to fulfill his dreams. Ended up in the situation where he's just working hard and being like I do what I gotta do sort of like grounded sense and I think everyone is unsatisfied with their predicament. I don't know how else to describe this movie.
No. Yeah. I think that's I think that's good is that everyone is there's there's a lot of dramas and so the thing I always think about is that when I go see this is a theater play that's been adapted I into a
was about to say that that's what I was gonna say. My first impression was in the very first scene due to its kind of long form nature, I immediately was like, this feels like a play.
Yeah. It is originally a theatrical script.
And so I think that everyone is kind of everyone is locked into their characters and it's a lot of it is about how these characters are trying to break free from that.
Yeah. Or just, like, find some place. I think is the
I also think that the racial overtones has an oppressive part of the movie. Because I think that a lot of the derivatives of their situation is based on the racism that was occurring at that time.
A 100%. Yeah. And it's a weird thing when you get deeper into the movie, part of Troy, the husband, the father, is pushing Corey, their son, so hard to be like, You can't just play baseball. You gotta have a job. You gotta have good grades. You gotta do all this stuff. He's piling it on because it's so difficult for a black man during that time to be able to do anything that he is conflicted. He's like, you gotta even if you have to give up your dreams, have to be able to survive.
Yeah. I think that but I also think that that caused him to narrow his vision of what his son could be also.
It's true. Yeah. I mean, that's the that's the whole
Yeah. Because his son had this ability to get a scholarship and go to college. And Troy kept saying, no, get a trade, something that you can do with your hands. You can't go to college.
Yeah.
I think the sorry, I know we're getting into it, but the counterpart of that is that Troy was an incredible baseball player.
Yeah.
He played for the Negro Leagues. The Homestead Pirates is the team that was in Homestead Grays was a team that was in Pittsburgh because they talked about the Homestead Field. I don't think you guys noticed that because you don't know the history of the baseball in the So the Negro League team was a Homestead Grays. And when he talked about it, he was on that team. But when he got past 40, he was too old to make it to the major leagues, but he was one of the top players in the Negro League.
And so part of his thought process is that because he couldn't he didn't have the ability to make the transition to the Major League Baseball because it was just then when they were allowing people other than white players into the Major League Baseball, just was too old because halfway through the movie or near the end of the movie, wife goes, they just you were were over 40 years old. You're there's no way you were gonna make Major League Baseball.
Right.
Yeah. And so I think that the baseball aspect is something that that I understood just because I grew up with baseball around me and doing it. Right. Which I don't think you guys have seen. You're not No. That familiar with.
Nope. The only thing baseball that I'm tapped into is the Savannah bananas. I think that's the only thing I got.
So true. But, yeah, it it's it I mean, you shed light in that environment a little bit more. But it's the it isn't about one thing you know is the whole movie right there's just things on top of things and it's societal pressure it's racism it's all of these you know things that just bear down on a family. Yeah. You know, and it felt recommended this movie for many reasons.
One, I think the acting is just breathtakingly phenomenal. I think everyone plays such a genuine and honest version of whatever and it feels crazy how good like everyone was on top of their roles But in addition, I think that it's just so impactful and it just unfortunately like barely lets you breathe a lot of the time. And I think it's such a powerful movie.
It it is powerful. It embodies the no happy endings. Yeah. Where like, for me watching it, in the end, Troy dies for whatever reason. Yeah. A heart attack or
I think
it's a heart attack.
Attack when he's hitting the ball.
Yep. And there is no solace in that. Yeah. There is no happiness. There is like you have seen him pushing his son to a a degree kicking his son out and and just being not a great person at the end of the day. Yeah. But there is no there's there's no salt. There's no happiness. There's no
joy. Here's what's one of the things that really got me was so he is a garbage guy. Yep. And he he puts in a complaint that they're only letting white guys be Yep. So the commissioner calls him down and he's all of his African American friends said, you're going to get fired. Yes. So he goes in there, he goes in there and he comes back and it is the happiest moment that we see in the movie. Yeah. He says, I got a job as a driver. Yeah. They gave me the job. But that is so short lived.
Well, it's even like like he is happy in that moment, but everything else around him is so Yeah.
Because what does he do? I'm gonna go down to Taylor's and hang out.
Yeah. Yeah. I think for me this movie has so many like heartbreaking quotes Yeah. And moments. It's true. The a couple of moments that stick out to me is him coming in to tell his wife that the woman that he's cheating on her with is having a child, and him saying, I'm I'm gonna be a daddy, and her being like, what? Like, what?
Yeah. So we talked about this. Viola Davis was
gosh. Killed it.
No. Markable.
Gosh. She killed it. Oh my god.
But the the thing that kills me in that scene is she asked him if he's gonna stop seeing this lady. And he says, she makes me laugh. I'm sitting on the porch. She makes me laugh. And that's his answer. And that kills me. Yeah. Because it you can see it kills the character of Viola Davis where she's just like, what's next?
There's another conversation that those two have where I think they're going back and forth and Troy was like, I've been stuck here, sedentary eighteen years. I ain't taken a step. He's like going on about this. And Faial Davis, the wife walks out and goes, I've been standing with you right next to you for the last eighteen years. You think I didn't want anything? You think I didn't have aspirations, hopes, dreams, the thought that I could be happy in one way or another, but I've been with you.
Once again, because she always she had all the best lines. He brings a baby home.
Oh, yeah. Yep.
And she goes, this baby will have a mother, but you will be a womanless man. That was like, ugh.
I I in that scene, I was I was honestly more impactful. I mean, he walks in with it with the the child and he was like, this is a a baby, my daughter. She has no mother. She doesn't know about grown people, She's an innocent whatever whatever. And I'm like, oh man, I don't know. Whole movie's crazy.
Yeah. I think the my hot my hottest take I think is the end of the movie where
That's where I cry.
Troy has died and it's a bit of a time skip Yeah. Where
Six years.
Yeah. Six years. We see Corey comes back home. He was in the marines for the last six years. Raynal, I believe is the the other the the daughter's name.
The baby.
The other two like Troy's best friend from prison is there. Bono. Mister Bono. Mister Bono and then his other son Lioness or shoot.
I wish I
could remember his name properly, but I can only remember the brother doing the lion bit to
him. Yeah.
Is is also there. And for me, the one of the the moments is that the son Corey goes, I'm not going not going to dad's funeral. And Viola Davis has this this wonderful speech about, you know, how things weren't always perfect, but, you know, Troy provided my hottest take is I'd I don't think I don't think he he needed to go to that funeral. Yeah. I don't think that that needed to be something, especially because the the one of the really, the only notes that I took was a quote that she says is she said, sometimes when he touched, he bruised.
Sometimes when he took me in his arms, he cut. And I I think at the end of the movie again, there's no happy endings. There's no solace. Yeah. But at the end of the movie, I didn't even I didn't think that she needed to be defending Troy and his character, especially from Cory who had very valid kind of complaints of his father, very directly changed the trajectory of his life. Yeah.
Because no one should be a marine.
Yeah. Exactly. In a very positive way because he was a marine. But I I think that kind of touches on fears that I have of being a father of when I think about what it would mean to raise a child, but to directly impact your child in what I would consider a negative way.
For sure.
It's it scares me so much.
So when when you guys have heard this story, but when we got married, I said, I I don't wanna have any kids. And this is the reason why is I said, I could make a mistake when they're one or two and not realize it until you're 22. Yeah. I felt like I was not a good enough man to be a father. And I think that Troy in this way had a bad example as a dad, of a dad. And so he left and hated what his dad was and then he ended up being that same kind of bully dad that his dad was.
Yeah. Yeah. It is I hate feeling this way, the movie does it intentionally. The scriptwriters do it intentionally. But at the end of the day, I don't hate Troy. Nope. He is truly just doing his best from what he he has learned, what he's been taught, and he is he's just trying to support his family in what he thinks is the best way possible.
Well, I mean, the the character he portrays is someone that left home at 14 Yep. Can't read
Yep.
Went on the road, went to to jail
Yep.
For fifteen years, got out, played baseball, got married, had a child and was a garbage collector. So his dream of being this baseball player ended. So I think that his life has been as you said, there is no happy ending.
There's no happy ending. No.
It's it's a case where it it's too real maybe?
Yeah. Yeah. It it is a little it is a little too
Well, mean, the dialect, the scenarios, they hit a realistic nerve. Yeah. So everyone goes I can relate to that.
Right? That's what I say it's so grounded but it's it's like every it's everything is too grounded. Yeah. You know? You're like, I can't believe in anything or, like, I don't have to believe, which maybe makes it worse.
Yeah.
Where you're like, yeah. Oh, so like a loved one is like, has, you know, trauma and they're getting administered into the hospital and you just it kills like the brother, the brother, all the brother scenes killed me. Like they made me want to cry.
So what is crazy about this is that my dad's brother was hit by a car and dragged 40 feet. And he had brain damage so he was that person. My dad grew up with that brother.
Yeah.
And so it hit, it hit a spot really close to, my dad dropped out of high school to join the Navy.
At least it wasn't the Marines.
But you know, they're in Pittsburgh. This is what's happening here. So much of that, you know, what my family was.
Yeah.
You know, there wasn't it was different, but it's still I think that if you took here's what's funny. If you took all of the things that were happening, your family will inevitably have one, two, three of each of those scenarios. Yeah. And I think that that's what they're trying to show because I think there was one line once again, Viola Davis said it was, I wanted a family where it was just my mom and my dad, but everyone else was, this is my mom and your dad and my papa and your mama. And she said, there's just so many people involved in it.
And you see that with this family where there are three children of Troy's and all three are from different women. And there are huge age differences between all three of them. And so because the one child, the oldest child is born before he goes to jail. The one goes after he goes to jail and then the other one is born when his middle child gets out of high school. So there's like twenty year difference between all of them.
Yeah. I think the the the I think the the shining light of this movie because again, I think the moral is that there's no happy endings.
The moral is
Yeah. I I was gonna say I think the actual moral of the story is that you should follow your dreams.
Yeah.
And sometimes it's difficult with family. Yeah.
I I think I think that's the mean I also think it's just like you can't choose Yeah. You can choose you can pick your friends, but you can't choose your family.
Can't choose your family. And I think
there is so many aspects of that movie that really resonated with me when I watched it for the first time that I just was enamored with basically every aspect of it. And I think it's not captured as often especially so intently.
I mean I think the writer was exceptional.
Yeah well the other thing I feel like we haven't talked about we got to give props to Obviously, the the casting choices were phenomenal, but this was lead acted by Denzel Washington, who also directed it. Yeah. Mhmm. And so obviously, there was a vision that he had going into this and like using this script that I think he really kind of just nailed.
Yeah. Perfectly. He captured it so well. Yeah. Such so impressive that and I I will say the mood the part that always makes me cry Yeah. Is when Cory
Oh my gosh.
The son Yeah. And the daughter are on the porch and they're singing this song that they both knew because they both came from his dad.
Yep. Because Troy always sang this song. And there's a
part where Corey starts breaking down. Yep. That part gets me. That part gets me good. I like watch it. Was like, I know. I know. And I'm like, who I know? You know, like Yeah.
I mean, it's a tough movie to watch.
It is
a tough movie.
It's tough.
It is it is a tough movie. It's also like way longer than you would expect.
It's it's it's like two twenty. Yeah. It's like the
Is that really how long it was? The
full run time is two twenty. Obviously, that's like with credits and everything. I think I think actually it's two eighteen, but basically two twenty.
It's tough. It's it's a long it's the longest movie that we we at.
It's it's a long it is the longest movie that that we have on this list here, but
I don't know. It didn't
I just want say it suffocates you with everything that's happening. Yeah. They don't give you time to breathe.
And I think that's intentional because like these characters don't have time to breathe.
Yeah. Like
they they are like life is happening. Things are going on.
And it's heavily on them.
Yeah
yeah the day by day you know there's a there's a when Troy was like or god I feel bad Rose Rose is the wife's name Well, was she came to him after, like, a bunch of drama and she was like, tomorrow's Friday. And Troy was like, of course I know tomorrow's Oh
my gosh.
That's all I look for every single day. Every every day of the week, look for Friday for Friday. You think I don't know when Friday is? Yeah. You know it's like this because like that's when he gets his check. Yeah. Right and it's this moment where you're like every week is just a non stop struggle.
See but I also look I look at that scene yeah obviously that's like I look at that from his perspective.
Yeah.
But from her perspective too where she's like
just come home. Just
come home.
Yeah are you gonna come home?
And he's like I come home every night and she's like that's not what I mean. Yeah.
Oh, rough movie. So we're getting near the end here. Yes.
So
I would recommend
Do you recommend it? Do you recommend this movie? I I would recommend this movie.
I I would recommend it because I just think it's it's too good not to wanna watch.
It's it's good. It's very real. It's not a movie that I really wanna rewatch. No. I'm gonna be honest. No.
I I was holding off to be honest. I was like, do I wanna watch this? Because I I know how I'm gonna feel.
But the other thing is another movie that has like a six person cast. Yeah. It's true. Really small cast. Yeah. Because it literally just focuses like on this family and that's about it.
Yeah. But rather than being one on one, it's usually ensembles that are talking.
Yeah. And honestly, I think the the diversity in the movies that we chose was crazy. Yeah.
We chose some three dramatic changes.
Yeah, I think they were all very different. They all had their own kind of theme about what they were
and what they
were both both from a film standpoint and from a topic standpoint and and whatever. So I think it was a good thing. It was a it was an experiment for us to see how this would work.
If like this, we'll do it again. Yeah.
Alright. Really quickly before we run out of time. We had three phenomenal drinks. I think we liked all three drinks, but which was our favorite? Dad, I'm gonna go to you first.
I am going to totally break this. I thought the first one was the best one.
Woah. Alright. Alright. Yeah. The first one, the the Pilsner, the VIP, good one, good taste. Nick, what are you feeling?
The more I let it sit Mhmm. I think
I did like the home run heffa the most. The second one.
The second one. I think it was so clean and refreshing and had such a, like, interesting twinge that I I was
fascinated by. I did like that because half a bison is really one of my favorites.
Yep. Hate
the bison. But, yeah. But the
first Sorry.
But the first one, just the citrusy notes just hit the spot so much.
What do you got? I was about I am I'm really stuck. I really like this last one, but I think if I look into my heart of hearts, the the VIP, the very first one, I think, really just got me.
It was really great.
And I think it was my favorite. Really tasty. Yeah. Overall, fun time fun switch up for our normal thing. I really enjoyed this experiment.
It's like a book club. Yeah. It was a little
bit of a club. Yeah. I like that a lot. I didn't like when we all sat down and watched Red Line together and didn't talk about it.
We couldn't say anything. We just like the movie ended, we stood up and just left the
room. Good night.
It was the most it was the strangest thing that happened.
It was the most not us.
Yeah. Weirdest family movie night ever. Anyways, thank you all so much for watching. We'll catch you next time. We'll see you soon. No drinks.