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Episode 13: Tequila Duo

Apr 21, 20251 hr 23 minEp. 13
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With this episode the 3 Hamster Boys are talking duos and drinking another choice from Chesapeake Bay Distilery(https://www.chesapeakebaydistillery.com/), Dr. Stoner’s Hiebra Madura Bourbon Barrel Aged Tequila. 
Jeff shows his age and talks Vaudeville, Abbott and Costello, and the Wonder Twins. 

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Alexander

Hello and welcome back to the three hamster boys podcast. We are in for a doozy. This episode we're gonna be talking about do os. That's

Nick

why I

Alexander

said doozy. I was trying to get get a little

Nick

Alliteration.

Alexander

Yeah. A little alliteration going, but then I was like

Jeff

Boy, that's clever.

Alexander

Yeah. Oh, I'm I'm so smart.

Nick

Double trouble duo disasters.

Alexander

Oh, man. Episode 13? I'm glad someone's keeping track of that.

Nick

Lucky number?

Jeff

Yeah. Lucky number 13. My favorite number.

Alexander

Oh, we should have done something like a Halloween related.

Nick

Little spooky.

Alexander

Yeah. A little spooky for episode 13. But instead, I chose some just silly dudes.

Nick

We'll we'll save that for episode one thirteen.

Alexander

Right. There we go. Yeah. When we get there. Yeah. Before we get too deep into talking about what we're doing today, I wanna know what we're drinking today. Nick, what do we got?

Nick

Alrighty. We got an interesting drink today coming from our friends over at Chesapeake Bay Distillery. If you recall, they're the ones that did the ghost pepper tequila and the ghost pepper vodka.

Alexander

Both are really good.

Nick

We are straying slightly away from the spiced into spices. Oh. So we have a herbal and a bourbon aged tequila. So, it's another tequila episode. But, it's gonna be different. It's gonna be very different. Different. To start it off, you know how I love to have just a sort of straight vessel that we can just taste the alcohol as is while it being still somewhat palatable. Yeah. So, on the website of Doctor.

Stoner's which is the brand of this tequila, it recommends a bourbon or sorry, a old Yep. So we just did that and I'm hoping that it's good.

Alexander

We've got an old fashioned here.

Nick

It's an old fashioned.

Alexander

Let's get it. Our ice maker is struggling so maybe not the ice we got. It'll be a little cool. Yeah.

Jeff

Woah. That is a very different tequila.

Alexander

What if I mean, this is a very different old fashioned like overall.

Nick

Very, very interesting.

Jeff

So we're not describing it. So basically it's just a tequila. Just a tequila.

Nick

Yeah. You added some sugar. Yes.

Alexander

Bitters. And bitters. I can see my sugar has made it to the bottom of

Nick

the Yeah. It's sitting comfortably at the bottom.

Jeff

Yeah. Usually, you muddle some cherries and sugar in the bottom.

Nick

True. I

Alexander

was about to say, what normally goes into an old fashioned?

Jeff

It's cherries and sugar and a little bit of orange

Nick

Yeah.

Jeff

Peel. And I think that the herbalness the tequila, you get that kind of fruit essence in it.

Nick

You get something.

Alexander

Yeah. I don't I wouldn't necessarily say fruit essence.

Jeff

That's not exactly what I'm tasting. Well, I'm getting this little bit of I don't know, sweetness in the middle of my tongue. Yeah. That is not just the sugar. It's something else that's coming out. And the tequila does not taste like a normal tequila. It's got it's got the aged taste to it.

Alexander

He's looking at me and I'm just like, I don't even know what to say

Nick

I'm trying

Alexander

to to absorb. I I am

Jeff

taken aback, but in a good way. This is not a typical tequila that

Nick

hard to describe Yeah. Because I don't know where to place the flavor. Yeah. I was about to say the same thing.

Alexander

It is you taste it and you're like, what is this? How do I even like place this? So I think you're doing a great job of like, kind of going through the experience of it. And yeah, there is a little bit of sweetness and you're right. I think it's a little bit more than just the sugar. But, it is strange. And

Nick

it's not It's

Jeff

It doesn't have the harshness of tequila.

Nick

No. No. No. No. It it doesn't have like the alcohol swab.

Jeff

Yeah.

Alexander

You guys are drinking bad tequila. That's true.

Jeff

But yeah. But but yeah, I I it and the the color of it, it makes it kind of feel like it's in between a gold and a silver tequila.

Nick

Yeah. But it has something else. It has It's very gold. Yeah. Well, it would be

Jeff

it would be a darker gold. Right. But yeah, I I do like it.

Alexander

Yeah.

Jeff

It's very different. Very very different.

Alexander

I like it

Jeff

too.

Alexander

Really interesting. Alright, dad. Since you're already on a train of talking, why don't you kick us off here?

Nick

So we were kind of joking about it. Duos is kind of such a broad topic. Yeah.

Jeff

And, you know, we were going, do we need to focus it? Do we need to make it wider? Immediately when I thought duo, I said peanut butter and peanut butter and chocolate. And they're like, well, that's not a duo. But anyway

Nick

didn't even think you would say that. Peanut butter and jelly. Yeah. Like

Jeff

No. I'm a Reese's guy.

Nick

Okay. Sure. Sure. But

Alexander

When we had originally kind of thrown out this idea, there wasn't a lot of structure around it. We try to at least go for something with a little bit more structure. But I do think it's really interesting that all three of us went in very different directions.

Nick

Yeah. Which I'm okay with.

Alexander

Yeah. No. Me too. I think it's interesting and I think it leaves the door open for future episodes if we did wanna get a little bit more specific about talking about things like this. But, yeah. Okay. We did veto peanut butter jelly, peanut butter and chocolate. Yeah. We were hoping for more like characters Yes.

Nick

People. Yeah. So because of that,

Jeff

I went another different way. So so my my my three duos are from my childhood. Okay. And so

Alexander

You can brag mine are too.

Jeff

I I think that they are going they're be essentially 50 years old at least.

Alexander

Mine are not gonna be that.

Nick

No. Mine are not.

Jeff

So my first pair is actual real people, but they kind of play a character and that's Evan Costello. I loved the who's on first thing. I actually did that in a talent show with somebody in the sixth grade.

Alexander

Really quickly for the listeners, viewers under the ages of 30 or 40.

Jeff

Yeah. Or 50.

Alexander

Who are Ava and Costello the first base thing that you're referring?

Jeff

So Ava and Costello were a duo. Actually, they started in Vaudeville and then they went to kind of the first talkies and then they actually had a television show in the first parts of thing of a TV. And what they did with this act was the one guy goes, so what are you doing? And the other guy goes, well, I'm I'm helping to manage a baseball team. And the the guy goes, well, can you tell me some of the players?

And he goes, yeah, sure. Ask me about any of the players. And the guy goes, okay who what are your players? Tell me your players. And he goes, who's on first? What's on second? I don't know who's on third. And they go, yes. I I wanna know the names of the player. Who's on first place?

Yes, of course. Well, who's the person that gets the check? Yes. Why wouldn't he get the check? And so it's kind of this whole thing and then you you end up getting the pictures today and tomorrow and then you end up it ends up on a thing, but it's this really rapid fire back and forth and you just the timing, the essence of it is so silly and no matter when you see it.

Yeah. No matter how old you are. And the first time I saw it, it was probably 40 years old when I saw it. Right. And it has it has been something that you see in cartoons, see in other media. I actually saw a YouTuber say he'd never seen this before and he watched it and he was like, well this is spectacular because it's just so it is simplistic in the nature of it, but it just shows two people working off of each

Nick

other. It's also just such a clever Yeah. And fun like repeating sort of like it's like a game.

Jeff

Yeah. And True actually.

Alexander

It's it's very like quick and witty and when I think about Abbott and Cassell, I kinda think of like, they're kinda like the OG like skit sketch writers. Yeah. Because like growing up, we were watching like college humor, you know, or even like older than that, other other kind of sketch writers at the time.

Jeff

And and it's the same thing. So vaudeville vaudeville was basically on stage. It was very local. It was very intimate. There were small places that were playing and not many vaudeville acts got out of vaudeville. Right. Right. They couldn't be in silent films because a lot of what they did was vocalizing and and whatever. So they they had this period of silent films where silent films were getting popular, but they weren't gonna be part of it. Yeah.

But there were a couple of acts that got out like Milton Berrow in the fifties, he started in Vaudeville. You have there there's there's just particular people, but by the time they got to TV, they were already 50 or 60 years old. Yeah. And so they really didn't make it past say the sixties.

Alexander

Well, I think it's really interesting that they're exploring a like a genre of media, because, like, this is a, like, a skit that was, like, televised. Right? Mhmm. Like, there's a recording of this, which I think is really interesting because they're exploring the kinda like vocal aspect of it of being like witty and bouncing off of each other versus you think about like other people like Charlie Chaplin who are really going for that like silent movie kind of

Nick

Well, they very physical.

Jeff

Yeah. Very physical. Comedy. So they they transitioned into radio initially. So there was a lot of radio

Alexander

See, I I can see that.

Jeff

You can definitely do that. And that act is definitely Yeah. Because their voices are different enough. Yeah. You could hear the two voices playing off each other.

Nick

And they're just standing there. The visual doesn't add anything.

Jeff

No. The visual does not add anything.

Nick

Maybe just like physical frustration.

Jeff

Well, the the other thing is that they're physically very different. They're like Laurel and Hardy. Right? One guy is a Sorry.

Alexander

What's that one?

Nick

Laurel and Hardy. It's it's basically like a tall lanky guy and then a

Alexander

shorter Stereotypical. Yeah.

Nick

Yeah. Yeah. It's Well, I think that they're the ones that like Maybe

Alexander

they are the stereotypes.

Nick

They are the reason why there is that stereotype.

Jeff

Yeah. I mean Laurel and Hardy was before these guys. So Yeah. They they were the the original one.

Nick

They like established like the the funny man and the straight man. Right. And like and all you know and stuff like that.

Alexander

Both in in size and also in like the demeanor.

Nick

Exactly. Yeah.

Alexander

They're throwing out. Abbott and Costello, do they do they have anything else that they're known for? I feel like I only know

Nick

them for that So

Jeff

they have probably fifteen, twenty movies.

Nick

Yeah. They have movies. Okay. Were they

Jeff

Whole movie? Yeah. And they're like, I've been custodial to meet Frankenstein, meet Dracula. There's a bunch of these that

Nick

Like supernatural bits. Yeah. Like they just get like play into. That's kind of fun.

Jeff

And then they they always have this gorgeous leading lady as a foil to them.

Nick

Of course.

Jeff

And so there's always a monster or a bad guy and then but there's also one where they like, Abin Castillo joined the army. So it it follows them through boot camp and then fighting the Germans or the Japanese forties.

Alexander

Would that be considered American propaganda for

Jeff

would say that there was a lot of stereotypes in it because they were trying to they stereotype either Japanese or German fighters. Okay. Okay. It's not any different. So another group, a pair that came out was Bing Crosby and Bob Hope. Bing Crosby was a singer, Bob Hope was a comedian. They used to do these movies where they would travel and they would be like, they go to Morocco or they go to Egypt or whatever.

Alexander

Okay. I feel like I slightly interrupted you to kinda get the backstory of Aben Castello because I don't think everyone would know. Why because you've mentioned now two other different kind of comedy duos here. Why Ava and Costello particularly?

Jeff

So number one, when I saw this bit, loved it and then I started watching the movies and I just they were slapstick, they were but they were more they were smarter. They they weren't the three stooges. Were smarter. They were talking like like there's one where the guy says, okay, Abbott, I need for you to pay the rent. He says for this many weeks I need this and he does a math board and he changes the math around so he doesn't know enough.

Alexander

Oh, okay.

Jeff

So the the it is a smarter Three Stooges. There's some slapstick in it but in general it's much more them talking.

Nick

It's the wit and banter.

Alexander

Yeah. So, I was gonna say much more banter.

Jeff

Much more wit and banter because Three Stooges does not a lot of wit and Yeah. You know.

Nick

There's just banter and hitting.

Alexander

Yeah. But sometimes you like a

Jeff

I I do I I not, you know.

Nick

Listen, if we ever do a trios, I'm I would bet money that the three suits would end up on his list.

Alexander

Yeah. But

Jeff

anyways, but so in the seventies,

Nick

I watched these older movies

Jeff

and I just absolutely loved it. Yeah. And and so, and they were fun. I'm I'm never I'm not a really big scary movie guy.

Alexander

Yeah.

Jeff

But these were fun movies where you see Frankenstein and DraftKings.

Alexander

Yeah. Was gonna say I don't necessarily think that they're necessarily scary. No. Maybe the costumes are a little bit scary, but once you have like two funny guys just kinda Well,

Jeff

they would the the people that were doing like Dracula was the classic people that did it. Of course.

Nick

Yeah. From

Jeff

the forties and fifties.

Alexander

This kinda feels like like a scary movie. Yep. That that kind of franchise where

Nick

it's Where it's like almost like a parody or like a Yeah. A mock of it. Yeah. And they did they

Jeff

they they it was a parody but then they they used the stars that were not like Vincent Price played Dracula.

Alexander

Mhmm. Mhmm.

Jeff

Mhmm. Which was traditionally the the Dracula that was in the serious movies.

Alexander

Yeah. Gotcha. So Must be fun for him because he gets so break out of like a, oh, you you have to play Dracula but

Jeff

But Yeah.

Alexander

These guys are gonna say something silly about onions and your fangs or whatever. Yep.

Jeff

So that that that was that was why they were always They were fun movies. They were usually on like, you could watch them on Saturday morning. Yeah. And so they just Once again, it's something that I grew up as a kid seeing.

Nick

Yeah. Makes sense.

Alexander

I love that.

Nick

Alright. Nick. Hello.

Alexander

Up to you. What is what is the duo that you're gonna kick us off?

Nick

My very first duo, I think I think a lot of a lot of our picks just in general are for like our childhood. Yeah. That just because like we grew up with them and they're they're just iconic Right. As well. Right? That's one of my thoughts. They're sort of like ingrained in our perspective like these are like iconic duos that you just can't you can't beat. Yeah. So, my first duo is Ash Ash Ketchum and Pikachu.

Alexander

I wanna beat them. Sorry.

Nick

Right? If you think of Pokemon, think of Pikachu and by proxy you think of Ash. Like they are always together and and since day one Yeah. Right? They have been inseparable. Right? It's They established it as a character where they're like Pikachu doesn't like to be on a ball in a ball.

Alexander

Honestly, the more I think about that, the more I'm like

Nick

Just the smartest Pokemon. Don't worry, back in there. But, I don't know. The original Pokemon series, there's just so much life and humor with like the the team of like, know, Brock, Misty, Ash and Pikachu. And then like that maintains through all the series. Yeah. But the consistent like the side characters besides Ash and Pikachu, they rotate out. Right? Like you Brock is Brock is pretty consistent until like newer ones.

Alexander

Yeah. But like, yeah. They they start switching out the

Nick

new You have May and Max who show up. You got Dawn, you know, like they they rotate out. But the consistent is Ash and Pikachu. And like they are

Jeff

And you watch this for years.

Nick

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. There's like a million episodes. Yeah. Not a million. There's a bunch. There's a lot and and they're they're just like a a duo that's just always in sync. Right? And then and then you talk about the movies and like you're starting with Oh my gosh. The Mewtwo one where Ash gets turned to stone and Pikachu is just like having his own like heartbreak moment.

And and you see it because Pikachu is his own character. He never speaks but hey, he brings I don't even know. He Pikachu brings the life. I was gonna say

Alexander

Pikachu kinda brings sass and energy.

Nick

Yeah. And I think there's such a great duo that's just like unstoppable. Right?

Alexander

As I think one of the earlier episodes, Pikachu almost kills Ash.

Nick

Yeah. In episode one, Pikachu's like, I don't want a trainer.

Jeff

Yeah.

Nick

I just wanna be big chillin'.

Alexander

I wanna be Pikachu.

Nick

Yeah. So here's what's funny is that,

Jeff

I can't remember when one of you was born, Steve, my brother gave you a Pikachu.

Nick

Oh. So That'd be

Jeff

you. And so forever when you when you would like rock and squeeze it, it would go Pikachu. Pikachu.

Nick

Nice. Nice.

Jeff

And it was like, it would calm you down to hear the the Wait.

Alexander

You just told. That was actually my duo is gonna be Nick and Pikachu. No.

Jeff

But yeah. It's it's funny because from from the time I guess when you were born we had a Pikachu

Nick

Yeah. That we that you played with so Sure.

Alexander

Cool. I I love that. I think that's very fun. Yeah. Alright.

Time for my duo, which again is kind of I I realize now that all of my characters are basing off a nostalgia, kind of as you what you're saying, kind of as what you were talking about as well. It's just kind of the characters that first popped into my mind when thinking about iconic duos or duos that are like easy and fun to talk about. This one I guess is technically a little bit before our time. You may have actually even even read them in the newspaper but my next duo is Calvin and Hobbs. Favorite.

Nick

They're a classic.

Alexander

Yeah. So obviously didn't really get much newspapers growing

Nick

though. Yeah. So

Jeff

I I do not remember seeing a newspaper till later. I used to get the books.

Alexander

Yep. Mhmm. That that's where I've mainly seen is in in like the actual like bigger books.

Jeff

But I don't think they started until the eighties.

Alexander

Yeah. I believe Calvin and Hobbes ran from 1985 to 1995.

Nick

Oh, he got the numbers.

Alexander

Yeah. It was just for ten years, the the creator of Calvin and Hobbs. Oh, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say his name. His his name is Bill. I don't remember his last name though. I wanna say Waterson, but that might be wrong.

Jeff

I think that's right.

Nick

It sounds

Alexander

I'm Waterson

Nick

You know what? I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be throwing mine.

Jeff

We'll we'll check during the break.

Alexander

The creator of Calvin and Hobbs wanted this series to to not kind of become serialized and be overplayed. And so because that, he really wanted it to run for like a set period of time and wanted to give it a a conclusion. You know, at the time there were other big comic strips. I think Garfield is kind of that that big one that people know a lot. And I think a lot of the complaints that I've heard about things like Garfield is that it's become over commercialized.

Nick

Right.

Alexander

Where the heart of the comic is kinda gone. Versus Calvin Hobbs which is like done to done. You say everything you want to and that's it.

Jeff

I I I related so much Yeah. With Calvin because I was just insanely just all out there.

Nick

Yeah? Yeah. I didn't think that's what you would say.

Alexander

Yeah. Could you elaborate a little bit?

Jeff

Didn't like to eat the food that was presented for me. Yeah. Had this I was always off some other thinking about something

Nick

You had a rebel soul.

Jeff

Yeah. I don't know whether rebel soul is the right word, but it was one of those. It just I Here's what's funny. Came out while I was in the navy. Yeah. And as soon as I started reading it, while I was in the navy, I kept thinking that's what I miss from my childhood.

Nick

Yeah. Where I was just because Your tiger?

Jeff

Yeah. Oh yeah. My tiger.

Alexander

Well, yeah. Just as a real quick in case Yeah. You're not familiar with Calvin and Hobbs, which would be a little but

Nick

You might be young.

Alexander

Yeah. It's about a six year old boy and his stuffed tiger who the story basically just takes place in this little boy's Calvin in his imagination where just anything and everything happen. It's about growing up as a kid and thinking about things and like using your imagination and playing with your imaginary friend which is like a Tigger esque kind of tiger.

Nick

Yeah. It definitely has like Winnie the Pooh Yeah. Sort of like Christopher Robin Yeah. But instead of Winnie the Pooh, you're hanging with Tigger. Yeah. Yeah. But like Hobbs is Hobbs is like own He's

Alexander

not Kind of insane like like dad was saying where he's just got like tons of energy and he's going all over the place.

Jeff

Yeah. They they tell him to go outside and he he's in the snow and he makes a hundred little snowmen where there's like some war scene or some test Yeah. Or whatever. And then, his mother tells him

Nick

to come inside and he goes, first you tell me to go

Jeff

outside then you tell me to come inside.

Nick

It's Yeah. It's not It's it's like, yes, that's how a six year old react, but they wouldn't be able to formulate the words Yeah. To really express that.

Alexander

You know, I think it was kind of the I don't wanna necessarily say the humor, but maybe it was the humor of the time because I think of of like Peanuts and like Charlie Brown kind of having a a similar mentality of like saying things that like a child wouldn't normally say. Right. Or like having some sort of commentary that you're like, a six year old would not be thinking about like

Nick

They wouldn't observe it from this perspective.

Jeff

Yeah. They wouldn't observe it

Alexander

from this perspective. But it's really interesting when it is brought to you from this perspective.

Jeff

Yeah. I I think I just I love it and I just related so much to it. Yeah. Because when I was younger, my dad was out to sea all the time. My mom worked and so we would come home from school and just me and Steve were just crazy. We could do whatever we want. Yeah. We definitely even when we were very young, we were basically on our own. A neighbor across street would make sure we were okay. But in general, we were just crazy and

Alexander

just Yeah.

Jeff

Did whatever we want. I mean, I remember when Steve and I got our our bikes for the first time and we were like seven years old and we went around the block and then we were going toward each other and neither one of us wanted to get out of it. So we ran head

Nick

on Nice. You know, we we we were just

Jeff

we were Chaos incarnate. Well, in in Chicago, we they had these two story buildings. We called them Flintstones because they were concrete square buildings where navy housing was. Well, we had gotten a hundred inches of snow, so the snow was piled up. So we were climbing on top of two story buildings and jumping off into the snow. Yep. That sounds Yeah.

Nick

That adds up. Yeah. So

Jeff

it was it it just it it it struck me. I could really relate to it.

Alexander

Yeah. I think that's the beauty of the comic. And I know this is kind of getting away from the duo itself, but I think the beauty of the comic is that a lot of can relate to it. Because it's about being a kid, having imagination and then also throwing in some like philosophy and like thoughts about consumerism and just the world as a whole.

Jeff

Plus Hobbs ends up being the angel on his shoulder.

Alexander

Yeah. Yeah.

Jeff

Because Hobbs is always there going, well you know she was right.

Alexander

Yeah.

Jeff

You know?

Nick

It's true.

Jeff

You know, you you probably shouldn't have done that or you know your mom's right.

Alexander

Yeah. And I think it's also a way to like rationalize your conscience of being like your imaginary friend who is kinda gonna gonna make you go crazy a little bit.

Nick

He's gonna support you but he's gonna also hit you with like the reality. But I think that the the I think the

Jeff

smart thing about the comic is that you see Hobbs as this real life creature that's walking and talking with Calvin. And then usually the next frame, it's the stuffed animal on the ground.

Alexander

Yeah. He's just kinda like dragging the stuffed animal behind.

Jeff

And so I think that I think that that was really smart how he did that because whenever he did that jump in frames, it was at a critical point. Yeah. You know, which I which I absolutely love. Well,

Alexander

that was great. I love that. It's a bit of a memory lane Yeah. To kick us off. It's a

Nick

good start I feel.

Alexander

Yeah. And I think for an old fashioned, a tequila old fashioned, this is a great way

Nick

to Unique. Very unique.

Jeff

Very unique. I I do like it.

Alexander

Alright. Well, we're gonna take a quick break. Gonna pour some new drinks. And when we come back, we'll have our second second duo ready to go.

Nick

Two for twos.

Alexander

Yep. Two for Gosh. Double troubles. Seven seconds.

Nick

Alright. And

Alexander

we are back. We've got some new drinks in front of us. This looks like orange juice. Yes. Nick, what are we drinking?

Nick

How how astute. You have sharp eyes over there.

Alexander

I may have seen packets of orange juice downstairs.

Nick

Wow. Well, this is sunshine in the rain.

Alexander

Oh, okay.

Nick

Little little flare of a name.

Jeff

Not to be confused with a tequila sunrise.

Nick

It's true. It's true.

Alexander

Oh, true. I I was wondering if we were gonna have a tequila sunrise at some point.

Nick

Not not this episode. Eventually we might. Sure. But this is a very fruity drink to our collection. Okay. Today, this is tequila obviously, pineapple juice, orange juice.

Jeff

See, you're on the path of a tequila sunrise.

Nick

Yes. Lemon juice.

Alexander

Okay. Oh. Lot of juices in here.

Nick

And then, a allspice vanilla syrup.

Alexander

Oh, yeah. Is that is that still the path of a tequila sunrise?

Nick

No. And then, a lot a lot of tiki bitters or spiced bitters.

Alexander

Yeah. Was supposed say, what's a tiki?

Nick

It smelled like a licorice.

Jeff

Yeah. It's like a it's supposed to be this very special herbal bitters.

Nick

Yeah. And I thought that would complement well with what we're working with.

Jeff

Not not only that, but the allspice should give it a almost a Christmassy taste to it.

Nick

Yeah. Alright. Let's So, we'll see how it goes.

Alexander

Yeah. Cheers. Cheers.

Jeff

It's healthy because it's got all the juices.

Nick

It's got a lot of juices. I don't know.

Alexander

Woah. That's a That's an assumption. Or an insertion.

Nick

Oh. I can Oh.

Alexander

Wow. Okay. This is great. I think the first thing that hits me is the all allspice vanilla.

Nick

Yeah. The

Alexander

aroma. Yeah. And then I get the the juices very quickly afterwards. Yeah. I'm not I'm not gonna lie. I don't even taste the tequila. This I think I You can drink.

Nick

I think I taste whatever the like the breath of it in the middle of your your tongue. The one that we were mentioning before where like it has a weird fruity or herbal sense that lingers on your on your taste bud.

Jeff

But it it matches so well with the fruit

Nick

Yeah. Users.

Jeff

Plus I think that the all spice of vanilla because I can really taste the vanilla too.

Nick

Yeah.

Alexander

You're you're kinda right that you were like, oh Christmas y. I was thinking like with all of the juices that I wanna like be drinking this by the beach, but you're right. I feel like I do wanna drink this at Christmas.

Nick

It does give like a Christmas vibe.

Alexander

It's like it's like it's snowing outside but I miss the beach and I wanna drink.

Nick

Yeah. Well, it's sunshine and the rain.

Alexander

It's sunshine and

Nick

the It's it's a it's a dynamic. Right? Because you're

Alexander

You know what? Actually, yeah. This would be a great It's pouring rain outside Yeah. And I wanna have a fun drink. I think this is like exactly what

Nick

I want. If it's a little cold rain, you're like, oh oh, I I got a little spice.

Jeff

Oh, we're in London.

Nick

Yeah. Yeah. I they drink this every day.

Alexander

I also really like

Nick

This one. This one's

Alexander

I I think this is this one has a

Jeff

There you go. Like you said, I can't taste the tequila in it, which is bad.

Nick

I can't taste the tequila. Yeah. Bad. I can just get the lingering essence of it.

Alexander

No. I agree. It it it is one of those dangerous drinks. We've talked about these before on on the show, but it's one of those dangerous drinks where you're drinking it and you're like, oh, wait. I could just keep drinking

Nick

wouldn't realize.

Alexander

Yeah. And I would not realize that I'm just

Jeff

because there's been times when we've had drinks that had three or four different alcohols in it and we're like, no. Yeah.

Nick

Oh, we're so excited for round three. We're already ready for round three, boys.

Alexander

Alright. Nick, I'll have you kick us off here. What is your second duo?

Nick

My second duo

Alexander

I don't know why I went to that accent.

Nick

Is not from our childhood Okay. But closer to our teenage years.

Alexander

Yeah.

Nick

Man, one of one of the first games on the PlayStation three.

Alexander

I was about to say, Spyro? Tombatou?

Nick

No. That's on on OG PlayStation. No. No. On PlayStation three, where was I I think one of our very first ones on the PlayStation three, I think when we bought the PlayStation three was Infamous two. Yeah. But Yeah. I think very very shortly after was the Uncharted series.

Alexander

Yes.

Nick

So the duo that has reigned consistently through it not including the the romance couple is Nathan Drake, the main character and Victor Sullivan aka Sully. And they get up to some shenanigans together. If we were talking about Hobbs being the angel Victor and Nate are both the devils and they're just scheming and looking for the next historical moment.

Jeff

So couple things with this is, me and you used to watch him play. Yeah. And it was just great watching him play. Yeah. But this is really the first kind of, I guess, Infamous two was really the first one. But this was one of those ones that was great campaign game, but you used to spend hours on the smaller games too, you know.

Alexander

So I will say in that regard, that was Uncharted two.

Jeff

Oh, that was Uncharted Yeah.

Alexander

Because Uncharted two had a multiplayer mode, which was really fun. Yeah. Because it had a a zombies like mode where you would like be trying to survive. And then it also had like a death match kind of situation.

Nick

Yeah. But

Jeff

what was the one where like there was like this area where you could come in from either side and there was these guys that were all armored up. Was that three?

Nick

That might have been two still.

Alexander

Okay. It may have still been two. Yeah. Because I know that three tried to implement like a multiplayer but it never really took off

Nick

did did did as well. No.

Jeff

Yeah.

Nick

Yeah. But it was it was crazy. We we just We

Jeff

would spend hours down there watching.

Alexander

Well, that's what I think is is Infamous was one of those games that had a like a cinematic story, but it was mostly an open world game. Yeah. With like big kind of story beats. Uncharted was one of those games, one of the the first games that I think we really played where it was a railroad through and through. You are literally playing through your favorite action adventure movie.

Nick

Yeah. Like it is Your own personal Indiana Jones.

Alexander

Yeah. Personal Indiana Jones where you have a similar kind of kinda hot boy deviant in Nathan Drake who is like he's mostly the good guy but

Nick

But he definitely kills people.

Alexander

Yeah. Like he's he's definitely there. You know, he's there for the artifacts but probably the money a little bit too and yeah. He's not afraid to use a gun.

Jeff

So which one was it where you're starting at like in the train and you're climbing up?

Nick

That is two.

Jeff

That is Yeah. I guess No.

Nick

No. Uncharted.

Jeff

Uncharted. I said infamous two. Uncharted two.

Nick

And it was that might be one of the best intros to a game.

Jeff

Intro too. You open your eyes and all a sudden you're hanging, you're dangling

Nick

the camera is angled so it looks like you're sitting but then it adjusts and you're on your back looking down a train that's hanging off the side of a cliff and you have a bullet wound in your stomach.

Jeff

Yep.

Nick

Yep. And you have to slowly climb out and that is the beginning of the game. I think it is one of the best It's

Alexander

a great opener. I agree. I don't wanna say Naughty Dog was in their peak when they were making Uncharted.

Nick

They don't stop though.

Alexander

Because I feel like, yeah, I feel like when we're talking about Naughty Dog, they are just constantly making games that are insane over and over. But returning

Nick

Yeah. To this thing. Sorry. You mentioned Uncharted, we're gonna fanboy. The the actual dynamic

Alexander

Yeah.

Nick

Is we've mentioned like a lot of like roles that people take. Yeah. And, it's it's sort of established in the first game that Sully is some kind of mentor Yeah. Or guide That's what I'm to Nathan. But, you don't get to see it until the third game? The fourth game? Right? You don't get The

Alexander

fourth yeah. Fourth game for sure.

Nick

Fourth game for sure. I think a little bit in the third game.

Jeff

Because in there there's a spot where he's a

Nick

kid, a child in the third one. Right? That's the fourth

Jeff

The fourth really

Alexander

goes back to like Nathan Drake's kinda childhood.

Nick

Yeah. But you get to see their their dynamic and their role even more. And then, you understand how much they trust each other Yeah. To such an extreme degree. Right? Like, they are scoundrels. Yeah. To put it to put it simply.

Alexander

Yeah.

Nick

But, like, they're scoundrels that would never stab each other in the back. Mhmm. Like, through and through, if one looks like they're deviating from the other, it's probably in the other

Jeff

It's a scheme. Yeah. Yeah.

Alexander

I actually I think the game does do that a couple of times where you're like, Sully, come on. And he's like, yeah. Sorry. Had to do this kid and you're like, oh wait. Now, he's got me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Nick

And they they are the game a lot of the time. They are the banter. They're the quips, you know. Uncharted one starts with you and Sully wandering through the jungle and them just joking around on like, so how old Sully is.

Alexander

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

Nick

Right? Like you already set the tone on this like very casual but very very trusting dynamic. Yep. And through and through. They're they're so good. I I mean, game highlights how bought in Sully is to Drake.

Alexander

Yeah.

Nick

Yeah. So good.

Alexander

I love it too. No, I I think the the banter is so well written. It's funny. It it feels real.

Nick

Yeah.

Alexander

Like you can really feel it. And then, I I My kind of favorite thing about the Uncharted games is it's it's like Indiana Jones until near like the end slash halfway point when it becomes like supernatural.

Nick

Yeah. Arc of the covenant.

Alexander

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know. I feel like it goes kinda a little bit further than what Indiana Jones likes to do.

Nick

I would say Indiana Jones, they have supernatural elements. But like, you're like, oh, that's kinda weird. Uncharted, it's like, oh, we're going to Crazy Town. Yeah. We are we are going to Crazy Town.

Alexander

It is kinda funny like every time they're like, what? How could this happen?

Nick

This is impossible. And it's like Zombies. Yeah. Found an ancient city with yetis.

Alexander

Yeah. Yeah. Or sand powers or whatever.

Nick

Whatever three was.

Alexander

I'm sorry but I don't remember three

Nick

unfortunately is the most forgettable. Yeah. It is a shame.

Alexander

So sad. I love that. That is great.

Nick

It's a classic. I I thought for sure you were like gonna lock that I

Alexander

was thinking about it.

Nick

It was

Jeff

But there's no pet.

Nick

Yeah. Oh. Oh. Okay.

Alexander

I'll I'll go next because you made a comment and I have to not defend myself but fall back into that stereotype. Yes. I realized when I was making my list, I went with duos that were a human and animal companion. And I can't get away from it. I don't even like animals that much, if I'm gonna be honest.

Nick

Like in general?

Alexander

Yeah. Just in general.

Nick

Okay. Alright.

Alexander

I think they're they're fine. You know, I've I've met people and it's like, oh, if it if a cat or a human are hanging on a ledge, who do you save? And they're like, the cat of course. And I'm like, yeah. Then it'll scratch you once you're Yeah. But anyways, my next duo, speaking of cats, is I think a very silly one. But sometimes you kinda need a silly one. Natsu Dragneal, I believe is his last name. Yeah. And Happy.

Nick

What's his last name?

Alexander

Oh shoot. Does Happy Is it Dragneal too? No.

Nick

I don't know.

Alexander

Don't think Happy has

Jeff

I don't know the Yeah.

Alexander

Yeah. This is from an anime called Fairy Tale. And it is fairy like the mystical creatures and tail like what like animals have.

Nick

Not the typical fairy tale.

Jeff

Not the

Alexander

typical fairy tale. It is a anime about a world with magical guilds.

Nick

Mhmm.

Alexander

So it's kind of like high fantasy, medieval but like close to contemporary.

Nick

Yeah. They have aspects that are more modern. Mhmm.

Alexander

Yeah. Like there are cars and trains.

Nick

But they're run off magic.

Alexander

But they're magic powered. Yeah. So it's kinda like steampunk but like magic punk, I guess. Yeah. And Natsu is one of the main characters. I'd argue maybe the main character.

Nick

I'm not gonna get into the thick of it. Whoever people say that is the alternative to the main character isn't. I'll just leave it at that. Is not.

Alexander

But Natsu always has with him his best friend and the childhood kind of friend is this blue cat with wings named Happy. And

Nick

He talks.

Alexander

Yeah. He talks. They're so belovedly like stupid.

Nick

Yeah. I love it so much. And they, I would say similar. They're

Alexander

they're like a

Nick

comedy duo and they're both playing the funny man.

Jeff

There's no straight guy.

Nick

There's no straight guy.

Alexander

And I feel like that there there's just like they are so quotable. When I think of fairy tale, Happy and Natsu are the first people I think of.

Nick

It's true.

Alexander

And I immediately think of like quotes from them. Like Happy going, oh Urza's magic is so beautiful. She makes people bleed. You're like, what? Yeah.

Nick

And yeah. Honestly, they're they're so fun. I I know you said it was like a joke one. And, honestly, my gut reaction was like, that's the best duo. But, like, when you're talking about them, like, yeah. They're they are two peas in a pod. They are literally inseparable. Yeah. They are always like near each other. They they live in a house together. Yeah. Like the Dante doesn't treat him like a pet. It's like It's just like literally

Alexander

his best friend.

Nick

It's actually his best friend. Like they When you look at their house, they have like separate bunks and it is just a trash house. Like like it there's just trash everywhere. And like they're always in sync. Like whenever like one goes to a bit, the other one immediately like hops on.

So it's like they're like sneaking around a building and Happie's like, we gotta be quiet. We're like ninjas. And then and then Natsu would be like, yes. And then like wrap his scarf around his around his face and like silent. You know, like they're they're like always like on the same wavelength.

Jeff

So it's like two fraternity bros. Yeah. Basically.

Nick

Honestly, that's pretty accurate.

Alexander

Or or they're like, oh, poor Natsu gets so motion sick and then someone goes like, oh, what about when you ride when like Happy carries you, why don't you get motion sick then? And Natsu goes, Happy's not a mode of transportation, he's my friend.

Jeff

It's crazy. Yeah. See this, once again, I go back to it. Anime is so incredible.

Nick

Yeah. Yeah.

Jeff

In that you can you can explore so many different things.

Alexander

Yeah. I think, I

Nick

have

Alexander

a lot of complicated feelings about fairy tale.

Nick

Yeah.

Alexander

It it is It it has never really made it to the kind of big three status, but it was one of those long running shonen anime. It might I didn't No. No. It it stopped airing, I think. Maybe it's still airing. I don't know. It it is. There's been a lot of like renditions of

Nick

it. It ended after the hundred year quest Okay. Which was the latest anime release, which I think closes out where the manga ended.

Alexander

Okay. Okay.

Nick

But there's been a lot. And I think there's over maybe close to 400 episodes.

Alexander

Wow. There there are a lot of episodes. It never made it into like that big three status of like Dragon Ball, Naruto, Bleach or even kind of the new wave of big three that's happening here. But it it it was up there in one of those long running shonen.

Nick

It's quite well known. Yeah. At the very minimum.

Alexander

And I will say it has a lot of flaws for sure. Yeah. I think I don't love all of the cast. I think perhaps some of the women in the show are not written well.

Nick

Especially the lead.

Alexander

Lead and the others.

Nick

Sorry. I have a lot of feelings about the main character of the show.

Alexander

But I think even in the in the dub, I know this might be controversial, but I typically watch it dubbed. Yep. The delivery from Todd Haberkorn as Natsu is quite good. And the jokes, like they made sure that when they were doing the translation, the jokes yeah. There is a joke that I was thinking about that I was like, oh man, I didn't even know what the original Japanese was or like maybe it was the same joke, but the fact that they actually translated it.

Where Natsu's in a forest and he's hearing people talk to him and he's looking around, he doesn't see anyone and he goes, are you a ventriloquist? And it's so stupid. But it's one of those jokes that just makes me laugh.

Jeff

Yeah. That would be hard to Yeah. The the word is not the same in Japanese.

Nick

No shot. No shot.

Alexander

So I think like the care that went to some of these translation for some of these jokes is quite good.

Nick

And it heightened just the the care that was put into the characters to make sure that their dynamics and just energy stay the same no matter what.

Jeff

Because I know we've seen where dubs are just that's a bad dub.

Nick

Yeah. Unfortunately.

Alexander

Sometimes it feels like rushed or the the sentences technically make sense but when you like think about it, it doesn't

Nick

really They could have spent a little like a second or two longer to really flush that out.

Alexander

Or you know, you get very iconic moments like ghost stories where they just said, we do not care. You just do whatever you want with this. Mhmm. And you get like very

Nick

You watched ghost stories with this.

Jeff

Yeah. You've seen

Alexander

a couple episodes. Yeah. Dig that hole hole digger. Fill that hole hole

Nick

filler. Whatever

Alexander

they say.

Nick

Stop talking.

Alexander

Anyways, yeah. So I I think Natsu and Happy is kind of like a very fun duo. I do like it. Yeah. Alright, dad. I finished up with round two.

Nick

What you

Jeff

Once again, going back to my childhood. Saturday mornings, we were I always watched the Justice League.

Nick

Oh, okay. The Okay. Was it the Justice League or was it the Super Friends?

Jeff

Oh, Super Friends. It was Super Friends.

Nick

Oh, there we go. Okay. Okay.

Alexander

Because I was thinking about the animated Justice League. No.

Nick

We watched Justice League Unlimited? It was

Jeff

called the Justice League but it was a Super Friends. Yeah. What they it was the it was a Justice Leagues and Super Friends.

Nick

Okay.

Jeff

So the Justice League was of course Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Batman and Superman.

Alexander

Yeah. No Flash.

Jeff

No Flash.

Alexander

Okay.

Jeff

And they would sometimes add in characters. Well, as the series went along, they added this brother and sister and monkey. Monkey?

Nick

Woah. Are you cheating?

Jeff

No. The monkey was just a pet.

Nick

Not a friend. Not a friend. So

Jeff

the the I've forgotten their name. Anyways, the only thing I knew them as the Wonder Twins.

Nick

The Wonder Twins.

Jeff

The Wonder Twins. And when they touch hands they had a ring. Yeah. And they said, Wonder Twin powers activate.

Alexander

It's like Captain Planet.

Jeff

It's similar to Captain

Alexander

God, I love that Captain Planet.

Jeff

But the the guy

Nick

Yeah. The brother?

Jeff

The brother could be any water thing.

Nick

Water thing.

Jeff

So And they were purple. Wait. When you

Nick

say water thing You're very abstract.

Alexander

Purple instead of green.

Nick

Like Yes. Sinestro.

Alexander

Okay. Like Sinestro.

Jeff

Yeah. It's a good So but they're young. They're like eighteen nineteen twenty.

Nick

Okay. Oh, okay.

Alexander

So And when you say any water thing, he's turning into a geyser?

Jeff

Geyser. I am a tidal wave or whatever.

Alexander

Is he turning into fish?

Jeff

No. Only water things. I am a glass of water.

Nick

So form forms of a glass of water?

Alexander

Does it come with the glass? No.

Nick

It's like water Just water. So he goes he will go It's 16 ounces of water.

Jeff

So he'll go form of a tidal wave and then she could be any animal.

Nick

Oh. There there's the fish.

Alexander

I feel like she or he has gotten the raw end

Nick

of the deal. I feel like so It's pretty tough.

Jeff

The the problem is is that right now I'm doubting myself whether I've got it backwards or not. Oh. One of them could be water, one of them could be an animal. Okay.

Nick

So it

Jeff

was always like one was like a rhinoceros and the other one was a geyser. Right? And it was it was it was the stupidest thing, but even to this day Yeah. When you do fist bump, I always think wonder if twin powers activate.

Nick

Okay. Because they always they

Jeff

would touch rings and all of a sudden they would go do that. Yeah. And then and then one would go form of Toil water. Form of an ice cube, you know. An ice cube. Whatever.

Alexander

Oh, wait. Okay. Wait a second. Now we're getting into a little bit more.

Nick

Okay. Forms of water. Yeah. That extends it farther instead of just like Water. Water. 16 ounce glass of water. I turned into a rain cloud now.

Jeff

Yeah. He could be he it seems like such a silly thing but

Alexander

I think it's very silly

Nick

but But

Alexander

it's it's kind of fun.

Jeff

It is it is fun because you contrast that against So they they were in the Justice League and someone was They were

Nick

It's kinda tough. You're like That's crazy. Who are these kids and then like Superman is like beating the crap out of like legs or the

Jeff

or or they're off doing something and they're the only ones left in the in the office. Right? Yeah. Right. So they have to defend it.

Nick

Yeah. Form of cleaning bucket. And then and then the sister's just mopping. Mopping her brother. So But it Form of fatty loso.

Jeff

That that's what I said. It's it's one of those crazy crazy things, but they added it as like

Alexander

Oh, was it intentionally funny?

Jeff

It was intentionally funny.

Nick

Oh. Oh. So they're they're more like a closer to a gag. Not to say that they themselves are a gag, but like

Jeff

They're definitely They were definitely because you know, Batman was always serious and

Alexander

Yeah. I guess, what I'm thinking about is I'm thinking about like Batman is like fighting the Joker, beating up, breaking bad guys legs or whatever. Wonder Woman is fighting literal gods.

Jeff

Yeah.

Alexander

Superman is out there fighting Lex Luthor You know. A new power suit. And then they're like, Wonder Twins activate. I'm a chimpanzee and he is a puddle. Yeah.

Nick

Form of fishbowl. Form of fish. Wow. We've added to the ambiance of this fight. And it's a fish eyed lens and that would be the best bit ever. Am completely convinced by this. Why is this not your number one? But anyway, so it was

Jeff

And it's like I said, so after COVID we did a lot more fist bump. Yeah. Yeah. So now every time So when when I'm at the bakery and these very young kids that are 18

Nick

No idea. Idea who it is so

Jeff

I go Wonder Twin Powers and they're like what?

Nick

They're like what did you do to me? What spell did you just cast? What are the Wonder Twins? What did you do to me? Then you know, then it's even funny when I go form of a tidal wave. Yeah. Okay. Go further beyond and then form of a water filter. Form of

Jeff

a water fountain.

Nick

But yeah, it's one of those it was it was so

Jeff

insane compared to what you were seeing.

Nick

Yeah. Yeah.

Jeff

You know, because here they are saving the world you know. People are they're trying to stop an earthquake that's splitting the earth and whatever.

Nick

Yeah. And then these two turns into a bucket of water.

Alexander

Yeah. Turned to a rain cloud.

Jeff

Form of a rainbow. Wow.

Alexander

That's awesome. I feel like we've heard about this a lot and I'm sure I've seen them before.

Nick

I think I have.

Alexander

Going a little more in-depth

Nick

with this is even funnier. It's a really good bit. For my 10 year old brain,

Jeff

this was like awesome.

Nick

Yeah, true. No. I it I think it's the same when we saw like Beast Boy where we're like possibil. The possibil. Or endless. Are you He could be any form of water. Are you kidding me? He's Beast Boy with water too.

Alexander

I think having like the partnership adds to to it because you're like, how can we combine our powers?

Nick

How could

Alexander

how could we make this better? Yeah. But right now all I'm thinking is water and just fish which feel useless in any

Nick

the ocean.

Jeff

But yeah. So that that that's my second. That's

Nick

awesome. That's incredible.

Alexander

I love that. Well, my drink is done. I really like this drink. I did have a bit of like the the nutmeg vanilla or what was it? Allspice? Allspice. There it is. Allspice at the bottom. So I had a

Nick

bit of Oh, very very condensed.

Alexander

Yeah. But overall, love this drink.

Nick

Yeah. That was great. God, it's tasty.

Jeff

The vanilla Allspice is definitely a different combination. Not not all what I expected.

Alexander

I wasn't expecting it, but it was good. We'll see you for our next drink. Don't go anywhere. Alright. Here we are for our third and final segment. I don't really know how to not make this so formal when we're going from segment to segment but we do need time to reset, get new glasses out here, make sure that we have either poured in the last final ingredient or you know, gotten everything that we need to.

Jeff

Reset the camera. Yeah.

Alexander

Yeah. Reset everything that that needs to happen. So it's gonna be a little formal until I figure out a better way to do that. But that being said, Nick, what are we drinking? What do we have in front

Nick

of us? So this looks eerily similar.

Alexander

I was gonna say, also it looks orange but a little bit lighter than the last one.

Nick

I will warn you though.

Alexander

Okay.

Nick

This has way more going on than the other one. This is the Coletti Royale which has our tequila Okay. Contro Yeah. Elderflower liqueur and rose champagne.

Jeff

This sounds great. No juices?

Nick

There is

Alexander

No juices? A little bit

Nick

of lime juice.

Jeff

Oh. It's all alcohol. Only for color.

Nick

For real. Oh and and a slight amount of orange juice.

Jeff

Okay. Good.

Alexander

I was really worried that it wasn't gonna have any orange juice.

Nick

I The color is what's giving it away. This is orange juice and lime juice everything else is it's elder it's alcohol. Yeah.

Alexander

I mean, both of these are are light kind of yellowish orangish orangish drinks.

Nick

But this should be pretty refreshing. This has the most most alcohol tonight by like a pretty significant degree.

Jeff

Oh, smells good.

Alexander

It smells so good. I just wanna

Nick

Yeah. I taste the alcohol.

Jeff

Oh. I do taste alcohol now.

Nick

I'm letting you know though. I taste the tequila through all three drinks.

Jeff

Yeah.

Nick

I taste whatever that hint of something.

Jeff

It it's gotta be the aging. Aging with the herbs.

Nick

I think it's the it's the herbs and probably the bourbon.

Alexander

Right. This is this is really good. I I agree. You can definitely taste the alcohol. I think the other one that was like one of those drinks that you just drink

Nick

Yeah.

Alexander

And it's you never know the

Jeff

I think it's the vanilla and allspice kinda covered up.

Alexander

Yeah. This one I think it doesn't necessarily do the covering up. It more accentuates the flavors where you're tasting a little bit of that champagne, you're tasting that tequila through it all.

Nick

Yeah. And you're you're getting the warmth of like other alcohols Yeah. As well. I I think it would not

Jeff

be as good with a straight tequila. I really like

Nick

No.

Jeff

I whatever that herb piece

Nick

Whatever it's adding Yeah. Puts another layer on top of it. Really good. I'm a fan. I really like the bite of the champagne. I think it like the just the slight amount of bubbles to just add to it.

Alexander

I agree. I'm really interested when we get to the end of this section to hear what you all think your favorite drink was.

Nick

I have to think about that.

Alexander

Because I am I'm lost. I don't know what mine is. I have to

Jeff

They're they're so very different.

Nick

They're so different. Yeah. They looked so similar.

Alexander

They look similar but are so different. For the third and final section, I'll go ahead and kick us off here for my favorite duo or one of my favorite duos here. And again, it's a nostalgia and again, it's a human and companion.

Nick

He's keeping the archetype all the way through.

Alexander

I I can't stop. You know them. You love them. Uh-oh. You've seen them before. If there's a mystery that needs to be solved

Nick

Oh, the Ghostbusters. If traps

Alexander

are involved, you've got the mystery gang coming up

Nick

and How many people is that?

Alexander

It's a whole thing. But I think the most famous duo of the mystery gang is of course Shaggy and Scooby Doo. A lovable duo. Shaggy's literally like an American shonen like anime protagonist.

Nick

At this point.

Alexander

Yeah. Yeah. Not only is he memed to heck right now where you have like

Nick

Ultra instinct shaggy. You have Shaggy at 1% power level.

Alexander

But he also I think the the dynamic between Shaggy and Scooby is like they're Again, it's another comedy duo where the humor is that why on earth would these two characters come and be a part of a a group that solves mysteries when they are like the most terrified people ever.

Jeff

Because of the food. Yeah.

Nick

Well, there you go. It's all for the love of the game. It's all for the love of the

Alexander

And normally they like they're not really helping with the investigation. They just accidentally trip over or annoy the bad guy

Nick

It's Pink Panther. Yeah. Exactly. Is this guy the inspector? Same thing.

Alexander

How did he get this job? Yeah. I I think a very kind of influential duo for my childhood, for our childhood.

Jeff

Yeah. But what I think is crazy is that this was in the sixties. Yeah. Was in the seventies. Was in the eighties.

Nick

Yep. It hasn't stopped.

Jeff

Yeah. It just has not stopped.

Nick

It's like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Yeah. Exactly. I mean,

Jeff

I think and it's What's funny about it is that you can look at the cartoons today. They're a little bit different. They're a little bit different artwork. But then you can look at the ones in the sixties and say, oh, I know where they came from.

Nick

Yeah. Yeah.

Jeff

You know? Yeah. The the characterizations, even the movies tried very hard to match up with that character.

Nick

It's true.

Alexander

See, the thing is I remember watching like Scooby Doo on like Boomerang. Right. It was still On VHS. Yeah. Like it it has been a classic forever. And like you said, it's been rebooted so many times. There have been so many different variations. There have been so many different art styles. Yeah. But at the end, for the most part, it's still like the same kind of

Nick

The core.

Alexander

Yeah. The the core of these characters. You ready?

Nick

Yeah. It's children CSI. Yeah. There are Yes. There are sixty seasons.

Alexander

It's so true.

Nick

The cast is the exact same. You don't know how they don't age. Yeah. And guess what? They're doing the same thing every episode.

Alexander

Yeah. But it it it's it's kind of lovable.

Nick

Absolutely.

Alexander

Like, I I think if I really wanted to get super invested in a show, it's not a show that's gonna give me a bunch of emotional depth, but like a monster of the week show where I just watch it as like a comfort thing every once in a while. I love it. And I think Shaggy and Scooby are kind of the more relatable pair. Yeah. Because like, I'd be terrified too, if someone came out of the water looking like a swamp thing

Nick

or And

Alexander

I just wanna just wanna eat a big sandwich.

Jeff

Yeah. I mean, I think it's it's all of the characters are two dimensional stereotypes.

Nick

Yeah. They're so archetypal. Absolutely. They're so archetypal.

Jeff

And think that that's why it translates. Yeah. In a word, yeah. Exactly.

Nick

It shows it's two dimensional in the most insulting way and and yet, it's so successful because it doesn't try to hide it.

Jeff

Right. And and it doesn't try to be something it's not.

Alexander

Yeah. Like, Fred is literally like the dumb hot guy who loves traps. Yeah.

Nick

Daphne literally like the Dumb pretty girl.

Alexander

Yeah. Dumb pretty girl. Velma's like the smart girl.

Nick

The stereotypical Yeah.

Alexander

Nerdy Yeah.

Nick

No physical prowess.

Alexander

Yeah. Glasses.

Jeff

Wears a sweater that's down to her knees, you know.

Alexander

Yeah. And again, it's literally like major stereotypes and these characters are characterized by like one thing.

Nick

One aspect. Fred is like traps.

Alexander

Velma is like glasses. Brain. And like Shaggy Scooby food.

Nick

Food and frayed. But they all have their their quips except for Fred. Whoever wrote, whoever pitched it was on to something. It it should not exist. I think there My theory

Alexander

is that whoever pitched this never thought it'd go so far.

Nick

I agree. Because you're like, oh they're gonna say jinkies, zoinks. You know, they're they they are so seventies coded as well.

Alexander

Growing up did people say jinkies No.

Jeff

And zoinks. No.

Nick

Right? Like they are definitely in that seventies era like trying to match it though.

Jeff

It's it's actually happened at the same time as a Brady Bunch. So there was a lot Makes so much sense. It was just so similar to that. Yeah. That parallel.

Alexander

But anyways, like Shaggy and Scooby I think are are such a great duo.

Nick

They're a writer ride or die together.

Alexander

Yeah. For real. Ride or die. And I think not only are some of their quips really funny, but also a lot of the like slapstick, the physical comedy, the The physical comedy in a cartoon. Yeah. So funny with like Shaggy carrying Scooby running through like a door and then a couple doors down Mhmm. Scooby's running out carrying Shaggy.

Nick

So good.

Alexander

I think has really kind of put the the basis for a lot of things. We were actually just watching or re watching Denzel Curry's unlocked video Yep. For his album.

Nick

Because we talked about the album in the previous episode. Yeah.

Alexander

We talked about the album. We were showing our father and there And each song in the Unlocked album, if you haven't seen it on YouTube, is a different art style. And one of those old art styles is definitely an to Scooby Doo with a very similar Kenny Beats doing the same thing carrying Denzel Curry.

Nick

Doing the the long hallway shot with many doors. Yeah. And everyone coming out in different orders. Yeah. Sometimes it's like the monster chasing the person or the person chasing the monster or the monster carrying the person, you know. Yeah. It's like very funny, fast, like this is absurd. But honestly like you're you're like riding it.

Alexander

You know, I The more I think about this and the more that we've talked about this, I really love some of these old bits. Yep. I know that if it was overdone or overplayed, and some may argue that something like the the Scooby Doo kinda long hallway shot is overdone, but there's still a part of me that loves the nostalgia of it.

Nick

It's also so genuine.

Alexander

Yes. And I remember, you actually had a project when you were in school.

Nick

Yeah. I tried to recreate it.

Jeff

You did something very simple. With garage.

Nick

Yeah. With the garages. Yeah. I tried my best to That I would That was like my moment like

Jeff

I love that. But you know, you see it like Clue. If there's a hallway and doors

Nick

Exactly. Oh my gosh. And I

Jeff

think that they just It's such with different characters, it makes it just different.

Alexander

And you know, we we watch a lot of different media. I think Nick and I stay a lot more into the animated media, but we do kind of venture out especially recently Oh my watching a lot of

Nick

live So many live My friend is like sending me lists and lists.

Alexander

But I think a lot of times when we're talking about media crossover and this is getting so off topic but really quickly. When we're talking about media crossover, there are certain things that anime and animation can do so much better.

Jeff

Yep.

Alexander

And I think a lot of that is not only like facial reactions, but also like very exaggerated facial reactions with like little like the angry marks that they do or like the irritated marks that they do in anime. Like that is another kind of thing that happens.

Nick

It like it takes emotion to an additional level.

Alexander

Right. And there there are certain things that anime and animation can do that you just cannot translate over into live action. But I think this gag, this bit is something that It's universal. It translates everything. It's universal.

Jeff

And there's something so lovely about that. And it's so simple.

Alexander

And it's so simple. Yeah. So, I love that and I love Scooby Doo and Shaggy. I know we didn't actually really talk about their dynamic a whole time.

Nick

I know everyone knows it.

Alexander

Yeah. It's just like

Nick

Big eaters, big big big scaredy cats.

Jeff

Yeah. And ultimately they catch somebody.

Nick

And ultimately they're usually the the crutch.

Alexander

Yeah.

Nick

They're either the bait like on purpose or on accident Like it'll be like, now what you gotta do is set a plan and then it immediately pans to Shaggy and Scooby walking alone. Right. Like you know exactly what's happening. But like they would never leave each other.

Alexander

Yeah. That that's the thing is like, they're the ride or die. They're like, oh, we're terrified but as long as we're together, it's fine.

Jeff

And we get a scooby snack.

Nick

And we get a scooby snack. Oh, listen. Scooby gets a scooby snack. Well, guess what? Shaggy gets a scooby snack because all the times as well.

Alexander

I I think this also goes back to like that And maybe this is where like the not too and the happy kind of relationship come from or stem from at least a little bit. In the fact that like Shaggy views Scooby way more than just like

Nick

a

Alexander

dog.

Nick

Yeah. Yeah.

Alexander

Like they are best friends.

Jeff

I mean when they're in the back after eating a large meal. Yeah. They're getting like

Nick

they Shaggy is covering Scooby's meals and Scooby is just chowing down with him.

Alexander

But I I love I love them and I think they're a great duo and kind of something that that really kind of influenced my childhood as humor.

Nick

For sure.

Alexander

Yeah. Alright, Nick. Let's do yours. Me. Yeah.

Nick

You're switching it up.

Alexander

I love switching it up because I don't remember the order every time.

Nick

Incredible. Yeah. So my number one is a pair that is inseparable Okay. That are so in sync that they view themselves as one entity most of the time.

Alexander

Oh, okay. Okay.

Nick

This is from an anime called No Game No Life. And it is a

Alexander

Which comes from a

Nick

short novel. Which comes from a light novel. Yeah. And it is a brother and sister named Sora and Shiro and they are siblings and they go by blank together.

Alexander

Like it's it's sort of like gamer tag.

Nick

They are heavy gamers. They're nerds to the maximum. They their catchphrase is blank has never known defeat. So in in like the real world, it'll the the game the the anime starts with like these four people fighting like hundreds of people in like a p v p game. Mhmm. And by the end of it, the four people win. And you're like, wow. That's crazy. And like, they they don't have any name tags. It's just blank.

Mhmm. And they're like, wow. That's crazy. I can't believe these four people are so strong. And then, it pans to this like dark dingy messy room Yep. With the brother and sister playing with their hands and feet on these four computers. Oh. And they're just like Yeah. Anyway, so this is how it happened. The 4.2 cool down didn't go off. Like really nerdy stuff.

Alexander

And like when he says hands and feet, he literally means it's like one hand on the mouse, one hand on the keyboard, one foot on a mouse, one foot on a keyboard and they're both doing like two characters.

Nick

Yeah. And you're and that's like the establishing. The core of No Game No Life for you who has not seen it Yep. And listening is right after this moment, they get an email. They are a completely anonymous because they're blank, but they get an email from a mysterious saying, did you do you ever feel like you were born in the wrong world?

Do you ever feel that society has rejected you because of your passions and your prowess? And they're like, yeah, it's a weird email, but I guess so. And then, they get challenged to a game of chess. And after like hours is what it's assumed Yeah. They win.

And they are immediately brought to a different world by the God of games. Oh. And he says, you have beaten me in a game, that means you deserve to come to a world, my world, where everything is decided by games. Murder is illegal, any sort of violent crimes are of that nature is absolutely banned. That cannot happen in this world.

Everything is decided through simple games so long as you agree to it. And it's just them just absolutely going crazy in the world because it they are super gamers. Like anything, any sort of concept of a game, they have mastered it or are very familiar with it.

Alexander

They're also both like hyper intelligent.

Jeff

Yeah. Figured that. Yeah.

Nick

One, the brother Sora is like socially intelligent. Not for like him they're both extremely antisocial

Jeff

Yeah.

Nick

But he's very like attuned to people's reactions and like like emotional cues.

Jeff

Like, yeah. So he can do tells.

Alexander

Yeah. He's like a poker player. Right. Like he reads people kinda well.

Nick

And then Shiro, the sister is like the like Math. Those super intellectual math like stereotype.

Jeff

The calculation.

Nick

Yeah. She she says that chess is no different than tic tac toe because she can see every single result. Right. And they work together and basically they eventually become the rulers of the human world or the human realm, the kingdom. And it's basically just a crazy crazy show but through and through they are inseparable. They have their catchphrase blank has never known defeat is true. Whenever they're apart that's not true because Sora and Chiro can lose. No. But Blank has never known defeat.

Alexander

They also like have The show is funny. They have like weird separation anxiety

Nick

They have from each other. Incredible things. Like there was a moment where they were like talking in a room and a third person like threw the brother out of the room and the sister and brother just like panic attack and like just like curl up in a ball like, where'd you go? Where'd you go? I don't I don't see you.

Can't feel you. Know like and stuff like that. Like they they have to always be together. And from my point of view that is like the perfect duo because they act as like one person. They have absolute trust. Absolute trust in each other.

Alexander

It's also crazy because again, it's like that duo where like when I'm with you, we can do anything.

Nick

Yeah.

Alexander

But if I'm alone, I am not there.

Nick

Yeah. Like I can't do it.

Alexander

I cannot do anything. Can't cook dinner. Can't Basically. Slightly unrelated, but I love the concept of like the world building and the fact that like murder is illegal. Everything is resolved by games. We were literally just talking about not too long ago not too long ago a game called Infinite Nikki.

Nick

Yeah. Infinity Nikki.

Alexander

Yeah. Everything in Infinity Nikki is resolved via fashion.

Nick

Yeah. What? A god The gods of the world have set in effect if you ever commit a violent crime, you will be tormented by unbearable pain for the rest of your life.

Alexander

So anytime there's a dispute or anytime the like the team rocket, the bad guys show up, it's all determined by basically a fashion.

Nick

They're like, hey, you punk. You think you can get through us? How cool are you? And then they like whip out a suit and they put on cool shades and they're like, what do you got? And you're like, I got a bag and a sweater. And they're like, woah. That's so cool. Alright.

Alexander

I hate to admit it, but you win this round. Here's the blueprint to make a cool hat.

Nick

Yeah. That's so strange. It's a very fun game. But yeah, it's it's it's of that nature where the rules of the world have shifted so drastically. Where it's not the threat of violence or death, it's the threat of just not being able to overcome it through however your prowess is.

Alexander

Pretty cool. It's really interesting. I The show deserved more.

Nick

Yeah. It only got one season.

Alexander

And a movie which is

Nick

Completely unrelated. Yeah.

Alexander

Alright. Before we run out of time, I wanna make sure we're we're getting everything done. Dad, what is your

Nick

my last duo is the exact Uh-oh. Like people who these duos these two people are never together. Oh. Oh okay.

Jeff

Alright. Wile E. Coyote and Roadrunner.

Alexander

Maybe we should have defined a duo.

Nick

I feel like you've just created enemies.

Jeff

So, if you ever watch it and I watched a lot of

Alexander

Wily Coyote, Roadrunner. You're talking about like Looney Tunes. Looney Tunes. Yeah. Which I think

Nick

is just called the Roadrunner. Right?

Jeff

Right. Just the Roadrunner.

Nick

Or, it might be Wild Coyote, Wily Coyote and Roadrunner.

Jeff

It's it was was called the Roadrunner I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they but you knew the the Coyote's name was Wiley Coyote.

Nick

It's true.

Jeff

And so, if you if you watch it long enough you know that the Roadrunner's just having fun.

Nick

Yeah.

Jeff

Meep meep. He just he just wants to run.

Alexander

Yeah.

Jeff

Wile E. Coyote thinks he has to cap catch him. Yeah. And But like every great foil, one cannot be alone and there's usually nobody else there. It's just those two people.

Nick

It's always in a desert.

Alexander

It's it's almost like a Tom and Jerry situation.

Jeff

Yeah. Like you you had said Tom and Jerry and I was like, that's pretty close to the same thing.

Nick

Yeah.

Jeff

Where they they have to do it or the sheepdog and the and the wolf. Have you ever seen that cartoon? I don't think so. The sheepdog has got hair over his eyes. He can't see.

He's watching the sheep and so the coyote goes like the the wolf goes like this to get in there. Soon as he touches a sheep, the sheep dog gets him, pounds him and then throws him out of the out of the flock. And then when they when they leave, they do the time card and go, talk to you later, Joe. Thanks, Frank. And they go off to their houses.

Nick

That's crazy that they added a really good bit though. Yeah. That's a really good bit.

Jeff

So, whenever whenever I see them it's like, this is their job to chase each other. Yeah. And, then at the end of it, they just go off and do whatever they do. And, in my mind, they live together because there's no one else out there.

Nick

They're like roommates.

Alexander

They're roommates. They're we're off the clock. Yeah. You wanna go watch that movie?

Jeff

Let's go home. Who's making dinner? Yeah. What are we having for dinner? Right? It just obviously not Roadrunner. Yeah. I

Nick

get it. I actually get that perspective though. It it makes sense because the only other entity usually in that show is just Acme.

Jeff

Yeah. The the Acme delivery guy. Yeah. He's the only other person that's usually in it. The bombs person. Yeah. And it's and it's always ACME by the Roadrunner company.

Nick

Oh. Yeah.

Jeff

There's there's tons when they go Roadrunner company. Interesting. But yeah. So I I once again, this is seventies Saturday cartoons at its very best.

Nick

Yeah.

Jeff

And and it just You can't have one without the other.

Nick

Yeah. That's true.

Alexander

I mean a great duo for sure. And then you know, like I said, was thinking about Tom and Jerry which has a very similar vibe and the fact that they're not really like together. They're they're not really a duo. It's more of like an enemy duo but

Nick

But they're always consistently They're always

Alexander

Yeah. Like always portrayed together. You never really see them outside

Nick

apart. Yeah.

Jeff

And and that's why, you know, when you When we talk We talked about this duo means a lot of different things. Yeah. I mean, can you have Joker without Batman?

Nick

I mean, that's that's a big question.

Jeff

You know? Yeah. So Oh.

Alexander

That starts getting into ethical things too, where like if Batman didn't exist, would Joker exist?

Nick

Yeah.

Jeff

Because I mean, the the the live action, the best one, you know, Joker's hanging upside Joker's hanging upside down and says, you can't kill me. Right? If you kill me then you don't exist.

Nick

This is like a Sherlock and Moriarty Yeah. Exactly. Paradox.

Jeff

Yeah. You know, anyways. Alright. So which one did you like best?

Nick

Oh my gosh. Oh no. Have you decided?

Alexander

Yeah. Why don't you go first?

Jeff

Would normally have said that the first one was my favorite. Because No fashion. Because I'm more of a whiskey scotch

Nick

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Jeff

Straight alcohol one. However, I'm also a huge champagne drinker. Oh. And so this one

Alexander

I think you did mention that last episode.

Jeff

This one really hits a spot on a lot of different things.

Alexander

Yeah.

Jeff

And I I really do like it. It's refreshing. I love the bubbles. I can taste the dryness of the champagne which hits my palate the right way. Plus, once again, whatever that little extra thing with the tequila

Nick

You can taste it.

Jeff

Is just remarkable. It's like a well aged whiskey. You get that extra thing that you you can't quite describe. So I think this is my favorite.

Alexander

I think I wanna do a shot of the tequila by itself to really capture the flavor

Nick

Yeah.

Alexander

Of it at some point. But I think my favorite drink this one was really good. I really like this one. I'm not as big of a fan of an old fashioned, but I I still think it was good. I do think my favorite was the Sunrise and Rain. Yeah. Sunrise and Rain. The second drink that we had.

Jeff

Sunshine and the rain.

Nick

Sunshine and rain.

Alexander

There it is. Yeah. So, I was thinking of the tequila. Yeah.

Nick

I think I'm gonna a rare choice. I think I'm gonna go with dad on this one. Woah. I think the Coletti roll Royale was so good because I could taste. This was such a layered drink.

Jeff

Right.

Nick

Yeah. Which I really really enjoyed. I think the sunshine and the rain so easy to drink. It was so easy to But this one it had so many layers like you said, I could I got the the bite of the champagne. I got the the still the tinge of tequila. I could taste the contro. I could taste the elderfell oyster little bit and then just the orange juice and lime juice just to add it to make it digestible at the like at the very end.

Alexander

Yeah.

Nick

I thought it was so fun.

Jeff

Right. So there we are. I will say it. If you like what you like

Nick

Like what you like.

Jeff

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Nick

He has to do it.

Alexander

Yeah. He has to do it. He's a slave to the machine.

Jeff

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Nick

need me to sponsor us.

Jeff

Yeah. Just just send

Nick

me a send us a location, we'll go.

Alexander

Put the pin down, we'll be there.

Nick

I think this was a very fun episode though. It it sort of wasn't really about duos.

Alexander

Yeah. We diverted a

Nick

lot. It was like a nostalgia trip but really highlighting what we really value in like character dynamics I True.

Alexander

We're just about out of time. Thank you all so much for watching. We'll see you next time. Bye.

Nick

Bye.

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