Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Broadcast. If you don't make mistakes, you won't learn. With your host Corey Winfield, you know how you know fish as bad as you can't put it on pizza and special guest Justin Burke. I said something boy, that to our master radio broadcaster, and he said that he didn't hear nothing got your ass. It is the twenty second of
February twenty twenty four. My name's Corey Winfield. I'm Justin Burke. This is the Tear seventeen Recovery Podcast, Marty, and now we're going to do one this weekend. But we have a kid kids give you busy bro Mash eight weeks old. Oh man, this is good stuff. He's finally turning into like a person, because like last week he was on my lap and I turned him over and I have man tit and he was like he looked like something out of The Walking Dead, which I know is the show you
don't watch. No I don't, but he looked like a zombie, like just probably his head was just like like look like I'm just trying to eat me. Man. I was like, Marnie, I was like, do we have this thing child ours is a satan. I got no satan. It's not in my house. Jesus is a big fan. I'm a big fan of Jesus. So in a two way street there, But you're actually wearing your two seventeen recovery Jesus is a big fan shirt today. Any compliments on that? Not yet? No. I was like wearing that once in
Costco Costco. Somebody am I saying that right? Justin Yeah? I think so Costco. Yeah. Anyway, this lady comes up and she's like, oh my gosh, I love your shirt. And she can tell she just got out of church. She's like, I'm going to listen to your podcast. I said, hold on, hold on, don't maybe just listen to it yet. I don't know if it's for you. Jesus has a sense
of humor. Did you explain the podcast to her? No. I just said, well, it's just not just hold the excitement just a little bit and not tell her we had an app and that she can listen to all the episodes on there. I didn't say any of that. I just said it's not for everyone, is what I might have said. We did a podcast about it. I think that was in twenty twenty two. So if you want to go back and find that one, I think it says lady at Costco. I don't know something like that. It's the title. But
it was a fun weekend. We went and did the Ats Beach Volleyball Tournament. Yep, we did not play. Nope, because A I'm forty six years old and I'm not trying to blow out a knee. Right, I'm overweight and in my mind I'm still twenty three and as they call it, fit as a fiddle. Yeah something like that. Yeah, but in reality, I'm not so like that. And I saw Kim, which we should call make sure she's okay. Yeah, I was thinking about that because Kim
was diving. See Kim in her mind is twenty three, and it is a fiddle too, because I saw her diving for so many balls and that would have been me. Yeah. I even took a video of it. Yeah, your video is horrible? Was it? Yeah? The quality of it's really bad? But whatever? Can all be heroes? Not an expert? Nope, I'm sure or not. Yeah, if you watch the recap video you'll see what You'll be like, Oh, that's the justin video because ouch, Yeah, it looks like you did it with a phone that came
out in two thousand and four. Ooh, I know, I haven't played with the studience since you set it up. He zoomed in a little too far, Son, a little too far, and you saved that for the post post production, like I can zoom in and makes a little bit better. But yeah, so we had fun though, and Kim diving Dirty pictures
are at two seventeen Recovery dot Com. Yep. Then I took iticture and I didn't even realize it because with our cameras you can take if you put it in portrait mode, you can kind of drop down the uh aperture. I don't know, I really know what I'm talking about. The f thing. I know on a camera it's like one point seven anyway, it makes the back ground blurry yep, and you focus just on that person. And I did that when as Kim was walking over there and bloop, what do
you see a booty? A booty is a booty in the picture. I was like oops. First I thought you took it and I was like justin and I was like, oh no, that was me because I was taking pictures of Kim. But so, guys, if you're like, oh, should I go check out those beach photos, you might want to. I'm just saying, not that I'm taking credit for it. I should do better. You should. I should do better. I didn't take any photos. I took the video. Yeah, good job, Justin. But you were
on the grill. I was, and by the time I got done, I was hot. I was sweaty, exhausted. Yeah, and Max Power And because they weren't really hot dogs, they were like frank Furters or something, yeah, something like that. They were delicious though. People loved them and Max Power here in Traverse City. They wanted to support the recovery community, so they donated a ton of them, so everybody was well fed and things. Again to Max Power for that. That was very sweet. And
we love organizations that support the recovery community and having fun and recovery. That's what we were doing, and we had a pretty good time. It was. It was interesting though, because I am because your daughter. It was Okay, hold on, let's rewind it just a little bit. Because we did a podcast last week for Recovery Dads. It was such a good episode. You probably think different, but it was such a great episode. We talked about so much cool stuff and so much father stuff and daughter stuff in
your case, and then we had like power surges. Yeah. And it was crazy because I almost recorded the episode to the board, but then I was like, nah, I we'll record it right into Adobe. And then Adobe crashed and it kept crashing because we kept having power searches. So I think Adobe is like, I give up, because normally you can just pull it back up, open it and says, do you want to pull up that last thing you're working on? Yeah, well you'll try that for a
week a week, that's how good this episode was. Yeah. I was like, you're sure you just don't want to record. Nope, I'm going to recover it. Yeah, it's not happening. But you were complaining last week because you had your daughter over, not this last weekend, but the weekend before. You're with your daughter and your mom and yep. So your daughter was being not nice to you, lazy. Yeah, And you said that she was having the girl problems of the twenty eight day thing. Yep.
And I said, justin lay off of her, she's feeling like crap. She's young. This is still relatively new to her and it's uncomfortable, and you're like, yeah, but I was chasing the dog around trying to make the dog get the cat, and of course she's telling you to stop it, dad, it's annoying. What are you two years old? Justin?
And then Mitch chimed in and then you're like, and she wouldn't even help my mom clean out her storage closet, Like, just shit, your mom's been piling up in there for the last two or twenty thirty years. Of course she doesn't want to help. That's your mom's job. She should be doing that her damn self. If you clean that out, then you don't have to get your son and your granddaughter and their kin and their friends from school to help. Like, you don't have to do any of that,
just do it yourself. So we were just like on your ass about that, and I told you that, you know, you need to google and you like pulled out your phone. You're about to google it. And that's the best part of it. Yeah, And I was like minstrel cycles or something, I don't remember what it was about. It was funny and we got your ass and then yeah, we don't have it. So anyway, now we're here in this past weekend, and yeah, how was your
experience with her? How would you rate that on the scale of one to time. I mean, she helped out Mitch's child, Logan helped out Parker was the only one who didn't. He was just kind of their sleep but sorry, he's eight weeks old in the past. And it was fine until I look over at our table and there's a half eaten apple on it and not just like set down with a skin side, No, just set down
where you just like take bites out of it. Just And one thing about apples I've learned, actually I probably learned this when I was like four. Is there sticky? Yeah? Yeah, they're no, they can't. They are sticky, and if you just put them right down on something, you're gonna need to wipe that off. So I look around, I just see this apple and I was like, you've got to be kidding me. It's like, who just laid their apple on our table? Get all sticky and
all dirty? And here comes your daughter, Ma Mo. I was like, is this your apple? Yeah? I said, what the hell you putting it on the table that's your table, said something like that, and she's like, oh, I didn't know. I was like, oh my god, you didn't know. And then it all takes me back to like three weeks ago when we're here in the we're here in the office, and
here comes justin with the tooth missing. She went to the dentist that day and they're like, we're taking this song, bitch out, and your daughter comes in with where'd you guys go? Jersey mikes, you guys want somewhere. Oh, and you got some kind of sandwich for her with onions all over it. It's great to bring to the office whatever. So she gets in here, she starts opening her sandwich right there at the front desk, and and because she likes juggling and it's not very good at it, she
drops her sandwich right on the floor. And you always defend her. Now, she opened the sandwich, so it wasn't just ooh, I dropped my sandwich. It's wrapped up. No, no, I'm talking about she had it in her hands, started juggling it or whatever she was doing, and dropped it on the floor. I said, what the hell are you doing? First of all, you're stinking the place up, and you're dropping food
on the floor. And then ten minutes later, I think my son is here and she I don't know, for what reason, She's trying to paint the ceiling with sticky stuff. I don't know. She takes her straw and does something silly and just pop just flies up into the ceiling, all over my son, all over me. The person stand next to me, and I was like, what are you doing? And then the apple thing on top of that. Now you see what I deal with all the time, I think, because I was like, you know what, I don't think
I'm on team Justine anymore. No, my mom said thank you for finally saying something to her. Yeah, because it was like you, Corey always defends her. I'm always the bad guy. Yeah, always. I think I'm just off team Burke, just off team b Yeah, I'm just off team Burke. I can't handle either one of you. Don't ever bring your mouth to an event. That really pushed me over the top, like what
the hell's going on now? But it's it's cool to see family and friends help out and for your daughter, and for for Logan Mitch's son to be there too, that was really cool. There's pictures of him. He's the one wearing the sober shirt. If you go to two seventeen recovery dot com and you want to go click through the photos he's doing like the Superman like I guess it'd be more like bodybuilder, Yeah, bodybuilder, bodybuilder pose. And he had like one good serve he served it. It went over the
net just barely and just landed. It was an ace, and the very next serve went into the trees. I don't know how you can't find I don't know, some people just aren't athletic, but you just find that same point, you know, and just keep serving him up. But not him. He just I didn't see anything like it. It's like the reverse of athleticism. It's I don't even know. It's so opposite that I just there's not even a word for it. And if there was, you'd make it
up. So yeah, But but it was nice to see family members and stuff like that helping out and the people out there, you know, in recovery, right, like learning that they can have fun. And then you know what was interesting. I kind of wrote a blog about it a little bit and a sentence about it. Yeah, on the way back, you know, from the event, my daughter looked at me and said, you know that, I actually had a lot of fun. I met a lot
of really cool people in recovery. I hope they stay there like you decided to do so that way they can have just a fulfilling life. Yeah. Yeah, that kind of made me, said a little bit statistically speaking, we know that not everybody will make it. We hope that everybody will make it, but we know deep down inside not everybody will make it. And I had a couple of things this weekend happened, and I'm just like,
are you kidding me? Man? I'm not talking about my house flying apart, but I got a message and it's like, oh, so and so is doing this and blah blah blah. And I'm like, well, I can't do anything about it, right and until this person can understand like there's nothing wrong. And again, how was at this point too, But there's nothing wrong with never drinking again. Yeah, but that addiction just gets your ass and it just grabs you. And this person's at the point where addiction
has tricked them and alcohol will do this like no other. Let you think you have control, Yep, oh, I have control. I can control it. I only drink on the weekend there's a point after I stopped drinking every single day where I did three months not drink again, and then it was out of control. But then I'd pull it together and then I'd have three months. So just by saying I only drink on the weekends is not a good excuse, because you're still not in control. No, when that
alcohol goes down your throat, you are not in control. I'm just gonna have two. Ah No, you're not. No, because you are not in control. Now you can have two at the restaurant. But the only reason you can have two at the restaurant is because you know that you're stopping at the liquor store on the way home, or you already got a bunch of stuff at home. Yep. But you'll put on a front in front of people what I used to do. Oh yeah, I'll have a beer. Yeah see, I just drink a beer. Oh boy, I couldn't
wait. I'd be making excuses I had to leave early. Well, I got it this. I could pick up this food from a cat or it didn't matter. You make dumb stuff, dumb ass excuses, the dumbest excuses you'll ever hear. Yeah, like this makes no sense. It's eleven o'clock and night. He's got to pick up cat food on he's got to go. He only had one beer that was weird, but he likes to drink. I'm driving, Toya, you know. But that's that's the truth, you know. So just to say that I only drink on the weekend or
this or that. Nah, And there's nothing wrong with thever drinking again, But it's so scary because a I don't want to be one the one with the problem, right, because that's what they say, it's your problem. Okay, Well it doesn't work that way. That's the alcohol company's play. Drink responsibly. Yeah, well you weren't drinking responsible? No, no, no, no. There are people who can drink, can have a beer and go home. There's the people and they go to the casino like ten
bucks, go home. Yep. There's people that can probably smoke a joint, go home. But then there's people that can't. There's people that need to be high twenty four seven. Yeah, the minute they wake up, they're blazing up. You know. It's funny how you say that, because my brother just went to jail and he finally got a hold of my mom and he's in jail with one of his friends and got yo as my brother's friend hopped on the phone for a minute and he was like, I've never
seen Josh that sick looking. I say his name on here, it don't matter. Yeah, you know, she's never seen him that sickly looking. He was like, dude was sick. He was like, I was giving him my trades, trying to get him back healthy, you know, and it's like, well, that's what our addiction does, you know, especially when you know you're going away and you're like, screw it, I'm gonna go to jail. Anyways. That's a sad way to look at it,
you know. Yeah, I didn't care for jail. A jail didn't fix me, but it was the the whole having consequences and realizing that I could have killed somebody. Yeah, that's what really kind of turned it for me, and thinking that could be in prison for thirty five years or someone I
don't even remember. And that's what alcohol does. It will you think you have control, and then you get those three months and if you drink like I did every single day, like tons and tons, and then you stop, your tolerance goes down and so when you get that sober time in there and you go back to drinking, you go back just as hard, but your tolerance isn't built up, so you black out. And there was no just have a beer for me. There was no just do two shots or
one shot. It was getting drunk. There's no point of drinking unless I can get And that was the numb pain. That was to numb sorrow, which only created more pain and more sorrow, and it made me broke, and it's a vicious cycle. Almost killed me. How many people do you think are in our prison system right now that honestly blacked out and killed somebody hm driving? Say eight eight percent? Yeah, I'd probably say a little
higher. It could be probably fifteen, like eighty percent or eighty five percent people. I'm just throwing numbers out there. I have no idea. And our prisons are from drugs. Yeah, yeah, the drug and alcohol related incidents. I'll cause the drug, So that should be limped in there altogether. Well, I said it that way some way listeners would understand that, because some still view it separately. You know, Yeah, no, I'll call it is a drug and yeah, well but it's lee shut off,
So sleep with it. So ito's weed in almost all states now. But whatever, Still a drug still alters your mind. You still want to do things that you would normally do. Yeah, and sugars. Sugar is legal too. Yeah, that's horrible. But I wouldn't eat a gallon of ice cream a day. Why not? Because it's bad for me. It'll kill me. Oh but you're gonna go ahead and drink that every day. Yeah, but it's legal. Go get some ice cream. Let's go, right,
you know, I'm down twelve thirteen pounds something like that. Did you ever try those yaz bars that I told you about? No? Why not? Because I got fruit? Oh well, these are Greek yogurt bars that are actually really good. I have no time for that. I eat fruit and chicken. Fruit and chicken that's oatmeal, and brown rice and brown rice. Nice. Yeah. Yeah, because I went to the doctor last month. Last it was in June. I was clocking and then at three oh
five day and then I went a month later. But that whole month I wasn't doing good. It was just after fourth of July is when I was like, all right, I really have to start changing things. And I think you guys are hearing me. Bitch less about Oh, I feel nauseous, Oh I feel sick. Yeah, because it was like every day, dudude. It was driving me nuts, and I tried not eating breakfast and this and that, and then nothing worked until I was like, Okay,
I'm going need some oatmeal in the morning. Do that and like whole weeat stuff. Made a whole wheat pizza yesterday. It was good because I put a lot of cheese on it, a lot of sauce, a lots of sugar sauce on it. Nah, but it was it was not good. Really. Marnie's side was horrible because she has had bacon and mushrooms on it, and mine had like chorizo and pepperoni and mushrooms and bacon and so like at all like soaked into the crust made it a little bit more tolerable.
But I had a bite of hers. I was like, that's why you thought it was gross, because it is. But and you normally make really good pizza from what I've heard. Yeah, it looked good. I mean it was what it was. I mean, if I have to eat pizza like that, and I have to eat pizza like that, the better than no pizza. You only make cauliflower a cross pizza you can buy all the store isn't too bad. I'm just just sticking my I've got a big old
bag wheat flour. But those are the things I have to do. Those are the changes I have to make to get the results that I want. Same thing though, with drugs, you're gonna sit here in black. I don't want to die from liver failure. Well you say that, but you're still drinking a fifth of day, Like, yeah, your actions don't match your words. Yeah, And if you're drinking it for the day, you're going to get the shakes and you're gonna your body is gonna physically become dependent.
And then you know, it's scary to just quit cold turkey. You know, you really should go to a detox program, right, not necessarily a nice thing. You have to go to an inpatient treatment program. That's definitely totally up to you. But first five days after quitting are the most crucial days of your life. Like you could die, yeah, even longer at than that. Actually it's up to two weeks, I think it. But those those things are real. And if you're not sure where to start,
you don't want to be labeled. I don't want to be labeled as it alcoholic. Well, here's a fun fact for you. If you stop doing drugs, you can join the recovery community and there you're not an alcoholic, You're not a junkie, you're recovery, your person in recovery. Look at that, right, that sounds pretty damn good, a lot better than being all those shameful words, you know, like the one person about earlier. It's like I've said to them, don't you just want to be in
recovery? But I don't even think they know what that means. No, like what a lot of people like tiptoe round recovery, but deep down inside they don't want it, but they just want to make it look good to please people for a while. And there's usually some kind of trauma that they're trying to cover up too. Yep. You know, when you do drugs, you actually will add to the trauma because you will say things and do things that you regret, which you will not care about if you start using
again. So that's one way to hide from that. And I think me and Mitch spoke about that on our podcast last week. When was it the week before we talked about trauma white knuckling it dot com. Yep, thanks, I do you want to check that out after this one? Yeah, it's something there, man, And until you can get a grasp on that to deal with it. And you don't have to just deal with it all at once either, you know, you can just be aware of it.
Yeah. I recommend breaking it up into sections and talking about it with a therapist. Everybody in recovery programming will tell you go get a sponsor, Go get a sponsor. Those sponsors are not equipped to handle someone's trauma that work in the steps is going to bring up. No, And I always tell everybody that you plan on working the steps, you better have a therapist.
And when you're going through your stuff work, talk to your therapists about it and be open about it with them, because they're going to help you guide your way through that process. Where a sponsor, yeah, they have lived experience, but they don't know how to professionally help you at all. Yeah, let's say our therapist. Then they're going to tell you that they can't
be your sponsor or your therapist. So that's not gonna work. And just because your friend, my friend went and she's this, and she does that, and she says, I'm I'm not an alcoholic and I don't have a problem, like I've lied to my therapist too, lots of them. Ye, well, why are you sleeping it? I don't know. I was a ton I was doing whatever drug I was doing at the time, and or how much I was doing you know, no wonder why I couldn't go
to sleep. Yeah, well, we'll leave those parts out and we'll just talk about the crazy and we'll edit the version that we want them to hear, and then they tell us what we want them to say. So here you go. It's a win win. I can go ahead and thanks for signing my bullshit. Thank you think Yeah, but oh you're just saying, oh my crazy pills, all right, one stuff closer, getting that monthly check. Yeah, it's it's a road man, but it can be done.
You're doing it. I'm doing it, Marty's doing it, Mitch is doing it, Kim's doing it. We know a lot of people doing it. And how much better life is, how easier life is is what blows me away. And I was talking to somebody, I think at the volleyball tournament. I'm like, why, why we fought it so hard. I have no idea. You know, there's one guy out there right now that has fought it for so long, and I've talked to him multiple times.
You've talked to this guy multiple times, and he's finally taking recovery coach training. Yeah, you know, putting forth the effort to change his life. And I actually called him this morning congratulated on him for actually doing something good. I know, I messed up words, It's all right. You congratulated on him an a porno and yeah, so yeah you yeah, hangratulations for actually doing something that's gonna help him in his recovery, not only him,
but other people because he suffers from a lot of different things. Mitch is here, obviously, obviously that was the guy's favorite drop. Yeah. Yeah, so those are those are huge steps, you know, because to talk about it and to say, oh, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna just but then realize, you know what, I have to work in this. Yeh. I have to make this my life. I have to be
in recovery and there's nothing wrong with that. There's another guy that I know who moved away, far away, and then I didn't hear frohim for a while, and so I'm checking jails and obituaries and like, what's going on. Then to get a call this person said, well, I went to a treatment program and and now I'm going into this sober living housing and I get to stay there for a year free. It's nice, Winfield, it's
nice, I said, cool. He said, all I have to do is go to X amount of meetings every week and don't do drugs, don't drink, don't do nothing. Seems easy. Then I was asked for a shirt, so I sent this person a shirt, two of them. Yeah, well I'll say you sent them too, not just one, two two shirts, And I didn't hear from them. I had some questions I was asking and didn't hear back. And then and got a message back saying thanks for the sweatshirt. Got your sweatshirt. And I said, well, this
isn't making sense because I ain't send he was a sweatshirt. No sweatshirt would have never fit in that little package. So the stuffs. It makes perfect sense to me, really, but it makes no sense. But it makes perfect sense. And person called me today and said again, Winfield, thanks, I got your sweatshirt. And I said I didn't send you sweatshirt, send you to T shirts. You didn't even open the package, did you? He said, no, I send your gate kicked out of the sober
living place. He said yeah. I said you were in there drinking and stuff. And he said yeah. I said, are you okay? How are you doing? I got to go. I get another call coming in. I said, come on, dude, no you don't. I got another call. I'll call you right back to hear from him because you started asking him real heavy questions, because I really want him to this person to see a therapist. Man, and there's a lot of trauma that this person
wants to bury deep down that he's got to deal with. Yeah, and until you fix that, and you don't again, you don't have to deal with it all at once. Mitchell knows we're doing a podcast where he keeps coming in and out. Obviously, sorry, that'll to keep going off. But you don't have to deal with it all at once. Like the whole stuff I had, I just put it on a shelf in my mind somewhere.
I just put it on a shelf in a closet, and it's like, I'm gonna get to you, but I knew that I had to be on stable ground, and A I knew I had to get a year. It's like, I want to get at least a year before I even start touching that because I want to be solid, you know, I don't want something to trip me out or start really thinking about it or you know, if I was four months in and tried doing it, I don't know if I would have had resentments or if I would have felt stupid for maybe a
text message that I had sent. I don't know, it was a whole ordeal. But when I could actually put together, I actually have two years clean, and I was okay with what I had said in that text message. Then I was like, look, would I have sent that same message. No, it had been worded a lot differently, but probably the same meaning behind it. Yeah, And I'm not And I didn't apologize for sending it. It was sent. I can't do nothing about it, right,
you know, and it is what it is. If it hurts your feeling, sorry, but I don't regret sending it because there's nothing I can do about it. You know, if you sit here and cry about stuff that you can't ever change, then you're going to keep it your stuff in that cycle. But if you can step up and man up and be like, yep, I sent it and what I had just done that was the same
one. Today. No, I would word it a lot differently, but at that time I was a person who was using drinking feelings at that moment. Yeah, And that's the biggest part about being in recovery is actually expressing our feelings again two people and how you actually feel. And it's okay to set boundaries with certain people. A lot of people you're going to have to set boundaries with. You can't be that yes man anymore. It's okay to say no, yeah, and to own up to things that you've done that
you've caused. You know. And somebody said something to me once and it was it might have been Stephen butt Well, he said a lot of good things to me, but it was what role did you have in it? What role did you play in that? And maybe it wasn't him, I don't know, but it got me thinking about a lot of different things and a lot of different situations, and even around here at work, when you screw up, I'm like, uh, what role did I have in that?
Well? I didn't equip him with the right knowledge or the right tools, or the right expectations or where whatever you know, and not every time you screw up as my fault. But I'm just saying, like, what could I have done that? I direct you well enough, right, And I take a lot of my own accountability for things though. Too. It's not like I try to make excuses for anybody else where what I had going
on. You know, I take accountability for what I did. If I did it, I did it. I can't hide behind shame and guilt, you know, for otherwise I'm going to end up going back down the road. I don't want to go down because I'm not owning up to my own mistakes. Right. Some people they like to do that, and I used to do it too. It would hide behind the bottle and then you just don't feel and who cares, I don't care, blah blah blah, and you'll back your own bs. Nope, I wasn't my fault anyway. Screw
them, f one Field. I don't need him anymore. Subway. If I work there, I can make sandwiches and eat them too. Her McDonald's pay justice good and they give you a free meal every day. Yeah, and I could take days off when I want, call in sick all the time and get free fries. I wonder if they have a rule there if they hit hit the floor and you eat them. I wouldn't want to eat nothing off a restaurant floor. Now, if you clean the floor, you
clean just like a little section. You start dropping like chicken sandwiches and ship just trabbi oops, trash instantly. What if it's like okay, what if it's a rabbi or like a New York strip or something and it's raw so you just seasoned it. You're about throwing on the grilled oops. And you got Justine Fingers, your daughter, and she drops it around the floor. Are you are you asking like from the Waiting movie? No? Oh no, I'm just wondering, because if you drop that, do they just go
just throw it on the grill. You're gonna cook the dirt off? What at one point in the deep frar? Oh that's what, Justin, did you work on a restaurant. I've worked in lots of restaurants. I've I haven't seen people do that. Drop something on the floor and like, oh, we'll just throw in the deep fry for a minute. Mistake. All that hot grease will cook whatever's off of it real fast, and they'll throw
it on the tar boiler. No one will ever know. It's like some fries or because I don't see you're throwing a steak in the deep frier. You're shaking your head. Yes, bacon, bacon cooks real fast and deep. Yeah, that's not steak. Got cook got cook off whatever bactery was on the floor. You don't throw it on the tar boiler. The friers all liquids. The dirt will fall to the bottom of the deep fryer too. Theory, Yeah, hmmm, I don't know. I think around this
here, though I've seen people do it. What if we started a restaurant that's all we did was drop food on the floor and then deep fry it. That would be so horrible. You wouldn't come to my restaurant. No, not at all. Call it second chances. I wonder what Mitch would eat because there would be some people like mmmm. I don't know. Have to try this out, but I think it's a good idea if we if we just expand our horizon a little. Yeah, yeah, years ago,
I want to start a coffee company. I remember that I still do. I don't think it would be that hard. Well, it kind of would be because we'd have to like roast all the beans because the beans are not cheap and you can't just grow some coffee no plants, like to get them from a different country or something. I heard the best coffee bean comes out of poop. Ah, I don't know about that. Yeah, watch too many movies, do No, Seriously, there's a coffee bean that comes out
of poop and they it doesn't come out of poop like something. They poop it back out and it's supposedly the best coffee ever. And I will never try it because someone digested that bean and then they pooped it out. Then it gets roasted, ground up, and then you drink it. We can call that second Chances. They just have Mitch and they're eating coffee beans and them up after. I don't remember what coffee it was, but yeah, and then we'll do a double roast where he eats it again. Second Chance
coffee double roasted, which would really be like four times through. Be interesting. Now that is a good cup of coffee, right that he's delicious? Well, I don't know. We'll get back into that that's some other time. But I'm just wondering, because sometimes I wonder different things. Clearly, you did actually go to a local coffee place around here and tried a bunch of different coffees and creating your own blend in an't you. Well, we
realize that I'd have to buy a roaster, which I don't. I want to stay like five hundred bucks okay, so very doable at that time in my life. Very not doable. So it was like, hey, we can buy coffee from said company, kind of like what Meyer does, right, you know, they'll go to Tyson and be like, hey, once you give us, we'll buy that chicken from you, and then here's some
bags put in those bags for us to pay for that too. Like they pretty much package they do all the stuff for him, and it just says, Myron it but it's the same damn thing. Yep. You know, Cereal is a little bit different, but it kind of the same. Yep. But it was like, yeah, we could do that, but then
we'd ended up like not making anything. And we were hoping at first, like a coffee company would come out to us and go, hey, can we use your logo to put it on a bag of ours, and let's come up with a coffee, and then every bag that's sold will donate X amount of dollars to you guys. And that would have been the way I wanted to do it at first, but then I just started thinking, well, hell, we might as well just roast our own beans, put them in bags, and we sell them. Yeah, but this office is not
big enough. No, and we'd have to have people there when because like an order would come in and we'd be like, ah, I'm gonna go roast some coffee. Hold on, don't row some too long? No, sorry, very fine. Yeah, it was I don't know. It's something that we could get into at some point. But why not now? Huh yeah? Why not? You we just did our own for the office coffee? Is this is some good coffee? Yeah? And then I have to learn how to roast it. Yeah. Should I go to like a different
country and become a roast master? Good question? You do like being in college? They don't offer college classes in that I like being in college because they pay me, right, That's what I mean. You have found a scam that's unbeatable as long as you keep going. But eventually they stop paying you like, or they want some of it back. I'm not sure how that works. Yeah, I'm not sure either. Yeah, we'll have to
figure all that out. But that's the beauty about being sober, being in recovery is if I really wanted to start a coffee company, I could. You really can do anything that you want in life if you really want to do it. Yeah, I mean, it's the age of the internet. You can look up stuff. How do I do this? There you go? So I'm using you're not gonna ever get that chance. Now, you're ever gonna go anywhere using No. They're like, well, I've been drinking
for years. I just drink beer. Somebody tell me that too. I just drink beer. Well, the end result equals drunk, and that's what screws you up. That's what nobody likes. That's the problem. It's not beer liquor. Liquor. If you drink that like I did, it destroys your organs quicker. But beer will do the same because you drink more and more and more and more. And it's like the guy that's like, I drink a six pack at night my first word out of the first words out
of my mouth, or the first word is liar And what else? No, I just drink a six pack every night, because after about two weeks you're gonna need about eight beers. In about two three months, you're gonna need nine to ten. You're gonna switch to a higher alcohol beer. Did
you realize it's getting expensive? And you still want to tell people I drink six's bag But then it gets to a twelve pack and then you start buying cases and you drink about ten to twelve thirteen fourteen a night, high alcohol stuff, and then you pass out every night, you know, and the end result is drunk. So it's it's not a thing of what type of
alcohol you're drinking. No, but it can be tough, you know, to actually pull it all in and have the awareness to realize that list that you're making of great things that happened to me when I'm drinking versus the bad things that happen to me when I'm drinking. Let's get pretty one sided. And even writing that list out, looking at it, it's still hard to go, Yeah, probably shouldn't do that, because that's how addiction works.
It takes that logic out and you'll make more excuses. This is stupid anyway. And yeah, but the first step though, is to admit that you have a problem. If the person can't admit they have a problem, even though they know they have a problem, they're not ready, no, because it's about them, you know, it really is. It's on them. They're the ones that have to make the choice to change, and change is hard. People don't like change sometimes, but you're changing for the better.
I don't know how many people I'm sure has happened, but they just quit using drugs and their life just got shittier. I've never heard that even either, but I'm sure I maybe it's like I hit by a bus or something. I don't know, like it could have happened. I don't know, Like I gotta lie. The first year of recovery is a little bumpy, but that's just because you're going through all these emotions, you're going through trauma that you're working with with a therapist. You know, there's a lot of
things putting together that first year that it's gonna seem rough. It's gonna seem a little bumpy, but give it eighteen months and two years, you're gonna be thankful that you did it. Yeah, well, I was gonna get to another stat that I saw, but I'm I'm not. I'm gonna actually look it up before I start spewing misinformation. But that's all I got for today though. Yeah, so we'll wrap it up and that'll that'll do it for today's podcast. Check out the latest recovery Stories story that I posted.
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