This it's the two seventeen Recovery Podcast with Corey Winfield. Well, fat people, we really hate it. I'm speaking for all fat people. We hate being hot. Show me one fat person that likes being hot. I'm have some words of them like why are you playing? You know, like being hot? Bro and coal holes, Marnie Winfield the little things that I appreciate now in life. And this gas station is the gas station of all gas stations. And what makes it so special It's got like a coffee bar in
there, kind of It is the thirteenth of July twenty twenty three. My name's Corey Winfield and Marnie's not with us today. But this is the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. Special guests are in the studio. I have Dulse. I have the very fabulous Justin Burke. Justin, how are you doing today? Certain now you can talk fabulous? Here we go. So I had to turn the microphone and I have control issues in Mitchell, how how are you today? Hiatus of not being in the North studio, I'm back.
You're feeling great? All right? Well, we're glad that you're you're with us today. I'm glad to be here and we'll check in with Adam's not with us today, No no, and a vacation day he took. So congratulations you guys, you're here for the great podcast today. We got such big news. What's that? I don't play dom. You guys want me to announce it? I feel like it's you should. Okay, Well, there's going to be a cage match between you guys, and we're gonna have
it in a location to where it's one hundred and twenty degrees. Oh okay, that's just not fair. Why all fat people like it hot? No? No, the we should we should like make a club fat guy wrestling that's called sumo. No no, that's wrestling for charity, which would be to seventeen would be the charity. Yeah, so come on out watch us, ladies and guys, ladies, it's just me be a hot dog eating contests in between. Chestnut guy chest wasn't his name Chestnut? I have no
idea the hot dog eating champion. Oh there was like the guy from Japan reached out. The Japanese guy, his name is Suzuki. He tried to it was something like that, Honda. No, I don't know, stop it. You're being you're not even being funny. I don't know why I hit that, but no, I'm telling you his name is something like that. Justine's looking it up. Choey Chestnut. Yeah, I told you Chestnut. Well that's not guess laughed. That's not the Yamaha guy though, fabulous.
No, but no, the other dude, because he took the crown from him. Yeah sixty two. Jesus, I have some ex girl friends. It all up in it. Yeah, I think this thing you brag about X your judge of women, might be suspect. No, but the other the Japeez guy. And I'm trying not to be a racistem using like air quotes. Here is Japeez like Japanese trappies. You know, I'm just thinking a hole and just kind of war. I don't know let's been doing it. I was joking anyway about the cage Master was just kidding. So
this whole four and a half minutes is pointless. So there you go. Welcome to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. I'm having fun. So it's all about you get three guys at the room. We're in recovery man, and you know what, we're laughing we're having a good time. I was busting Mitch's balls your day. I came in and I was like, damn you and Justin still be he. I was like what And I noticed that he had a flyer over your flyer and the flyer head over your fire was like
a flyer that's like all over the place anyway. So I'm like, why would you have this flyer over your flyer? And I'm like, oh, they're still beef in. I think it's a healthy beef. And yeah, I told you it's if we're not beef about one thing that it'll wear off and then we'll just pick up. But something else that's fun. Yeah, it's all about having fun around the office. Okay, because it's the newly appointed HR director, is that me to make sure that caught up on everything?
Everything's going good. I'm telling you, I feel like an HR director. What no way I do crickets do? I feel like that's not a what no way? You know? I feel like the HR director recently, you know, and there's been some involvement with some people and stuff. I had to do stuff. Oh yeah, and then I made Marnie do stuff because I didn't want to do stuff. Then I'm like, I'm not telling them, you know, and both of you guys are involved, and we're
not talking about anything. It wasn't too illegal. Nobody's going to jail or nothing. I got caught. Nobody said they did it, you know the important things in life. I did not do it. You never watched those shows though, that they have the guy and they don't have shit on them, and they're like, hey, we know you did this and did that. And then they're like, all right, well you caught me. Yeah.
I put the poison in her drink and you know, she drank it all and then she didn't die, so I put more in and then I sort of like stabbing her to death, and you know you caught me. You're like, wait, what, Like they didn't have anything on that guy? You just sung like a mocking bird? Is that what they say? Yeah? But like I always heard that if they had stuff on you, they're not coming into you asking what the story was. Hey, so tell us exactly what happened again? Oh oh yeah about that? Yeah, Well
we'll call my lawyer because I'm gonna need one exactly. But you're gonna wait in here for ten days. That's better than twenty five years, thank you. Yeah, I'm not trying to tell people how to commit crimes or anything. I'm just saying I know people from experience that I've seen on TV that have got caught up in this and they are not guilty, and now they're in prison. And once you get in there, it's not so easy to get f out. Nope, and the stuff that they will try to trick
you to say sometimes and you just think you're being so helpful. No, so I would just always ask for a lawyer because you never know. Yeah, but I didn't do it. I wasn't even hope. Just I'm telling you, and if they don't have enough to hold you, then you will go home. And the little holding period way better than being in there for a long time for some stuff you didn't do, right, Because it's kind of like selling the cars. When I look at it, you know,
you just want to get the car off the lot. Probably, I know Mitch is looking at me like that. It makes no used to sell cars. You just want to close. It's true, squeaky clean. Yeah, I'm most until but yeah that one alone for now, for now, for now, read your papers. But within Strangler, they just want to close the deal. They just want to close the case. And I think a lot of times for the I'm just gonna throw it out there because I think
for the most part, detectives, investigators and stuff are are good. But sometimes they might have a vendetta and they have a closed mind and just might think, well, this dude did it because I don't like him because he was dating my daughter and I caught him doing some stuff in the bushes and I don't like him, So that scumbag did it, I'm gonna pend it on him. Who really did it? Who cares? There are those out
there too, yeah, trying to get a convention right. Yeah, And at the end of the day, they'll hide stuff, like I've seen so many shows where the prosecutors won't introduce stuff into evidence, which is against the law. Like they have to do that, you know, they have to show the defense what they got and stuff, and sometimes they won't and it's like not fair. So again, not trying to tell people how to get away with crimes. I'm just saying, careful, careful, and we get
caught up in this system, right. I was having more fun with the Wiener cage match, all right, Back to that, back to that this is how it's gonna go. No going raw with it. So who if we had a hot dog eating contest between Adam would probably wouldn't. I would say, it's always a skinny pizza. I can't eat. Look, I used to anyone couldn't tell about seeing me. I used to. I used to have a thing. And I doubt you've listened to these podcasts. Justin
you might have. I'm still trying to be puzzled. Like we both each got a large pizza the other day and I was only able to eat half a mine. He smashed the whole pizza. Damn. Yeah time, dang, I even't had a PC of yours justin Yeah, I was hungry. Yeah, clearly back to what I was talking about, which I have no idea what that is now, Um damn do I have to rewind it? No? Okay, what was I talking about win or eating contests? I wasn't talking about weed or eating kind of talking about how Adam would win.
About that, hea, skinny guy. I was like twenty minutes ago, man, something else. It was about I don't remember our har department, that we don't have that at the beginning already addressed that situation in such a way that nobody knows what the hell I'm talking about, which is good. Don't violate any kind of HR laws. See IFR forty two forty two. I don't think it's that because it's HR. Yeah, and that's that's more a medical thing. Oh yeah, I mean you're technically Mitch could be a
medical Justin I something Justin knows about it either. Yeah, I'm clueless right now. Well, I don't know about right now, but I mean, guys having a little fun. No, it was I don't remember I was gonna talking about I'll talk about something else. But did you like how when I told Marnie that it was her her duty to address the situation earlier and her duty Yeah, just so's so close as he's like, are they making fun of me? I don't know it on rides all day, Marnie,
I don't know. Nope, but it was. It was pretty comical because there was something that came up and I was like, I'm not doing it. She couldn't look me in the eye. It was like, I've been HR and all kinds of stuff recently, so I'm taking my HR break and you said she couldn't look him in the eye. And it was funny how she put it too. And this is so like people are like, let us in on the job, let us in on the joke. You can email Mitch Mitchell at seventeen recovery dot com. Maybe he'll let you in on
it too. Maybe not, but that's his email. Maybe he'll write a blog about it. And if jeremy's listening, you better Sitch Jeremy, you take those threats to the HR department. Is that Corey at two seventeen recovery dot com. It's not even an employee door. It's always open unless I'm not here. It's closed and a lock tight. Oh man, having fun, hon't we? So you're going to the church tomorrow, Mitch to help children. We all have a volunteer day or if you want to go volunteer
or something day off to go volunteer. And he's going to church to help the kids all day. When you trick daddy shirt and do it for the kids for the kids, would make one real quick? Yeah we can. We had enough of shirts today. Yeah, you got a hundred shirts that
you washed and dried, yep, and folded like half of them. You know, Oh, yeah, what happened if that you were telling me that you were going to tell me later about his time at the laundry Max, because I just was like, hey, here's some shirts, let's go drop them off. I'm like, peace, I'll call me when they're done. Yeah, yeah, I heard you put too much soapin with them. No, it's not HR department. It was a new HR director that did that
place. They used machines. They don't have enough water in them. Dude did tell me later after he got upset and like cooled down, like just don't use that one. That one sucks. He's the one that it's never opened because everybody uses it. So machine. The machine, Well, I wasn't nice ill to tell you after the fact. And there was a lot of soapened. I didn't know I was doing. I was just like it got done, and like you look through the window and it was just soap.
I mean those white shirts too, so just so and they opened it and it was just like Bruta out on the floor and yeah, they had to go wait in line and have Antoine helped me. And I'm like Antoine the one that was mad. No, No, he got Bob or Steve or I don't know what his name was. He was he was fixing one of the other machines and he was the manager man, and he he's like, yeah, so what do I do? He's like, do I swipe this card? Because I think they were like Antoine just wanted to he knew
nobody was telling me. And I kind of like, how do I fix this? What do I do? And Antoine's like, do I just want my car? I think they're trying to figure out if they were gonna like pay for another cycle for us or not. And then manager Man's like, it looks right. It looks me right in the eyes and goes, we don't pay for mistakes. And I'm like, well, that's great. Can you help me fix this please? Right? Well? Running our four dollars, dude, Yeah, I don't sweat it. Tell me what I need
to do. Please another dollar in for a rent cycle. They ended up paying for it, and it was just yeah, it was a short it was like a half cycle, and it rinsed it out and everything. But they're all macause I got soap on the floor and I'm like, thanks Steve, Bob Jim should be thanking us for helping them clean the floor, right,
it was rough. Netflace is a little suspect and they have like a drawing of like this old creepy dude on the outside of their like like, oh great, so there's pedophiles here, super, that's just the owner. Others creepy people here. That's great. And the side part is that's the clean laundry mat and down damn. I used to have to go there. Yeah, when you're slumming it, right, not your big time in it. So the rich people problems, right yeah, but it's but so okay.
So then what happened because you were telling me about somebody yelled at you for vaping outside. Oh yeah, I'm just sitting outside going I just got whatever with Steve, Bob Jim whatever his name was. And um, just
sitting out in the the bench outside vaping. And then there's some dude who was creepily following me around every time I was in a different place, and he was there when you were there too, just like standing there for no reason, like in between those chairs where the big one that we did, and every time I go to a different part, he was always there, pull me in the blue shirt and like when I want to go stay in line to get Antoine to help me, walks around me to use the garbage
when I'm doing stuff in the It was strange. It was just it was just strange. I'm like, do I smell good? Do you do you like me? Yeah? The slaundering MAT's not like the ones you see on TV. But there's like lots of space and between. No, these things are like crammed in there. Yeah. If you're going from one side to the other, you gotta like there's always someone coming or going and you have to excuse me. And carts that you can roll around but don't really fit
anywhere. Yeah. Yeah, But anyway, we're outside and I was vaping my my Cherry Cola breeze and and he's walking. There's this lady who took her stuff out of the dryer and just took it right to the trunk of her car and was folding it into her car, which I don't know. I guess it's a nice day. Could do what youever you want, lady. When she had a kid in her car and the car was all open.
And Homie in the blue shirt that's following me around is pacing up and down a sidewalk smoking a cigarette and gets right up next to her, and she's like, will you two please smoke someplace else? I thought we had fifteen feet of freedom. I'm like what. I was like, fine, yeah, like I'll whatever, just say, hey, can you're not vape here? But I think it was more the smoke that she was upset about. It. Would that creepy guy say he just walked away. I think
he was scared of her. But he walked up wind down, like he walked to the way. The wind was blowing right at her anyway, so he went like far enough away. And I'm like, thanks, buddy, because I had like a timer on my phone so I could run in there and grab everything every time it was it was done. But yeah, do you think our stuff would have been still then if you got left it there? Yeah, Justin says no, No, I think so. But you weren't there with this crowd. Justin, this was an interesting crowd, got
you. I love the kids screaming. Yeah, I love the kids screaming thing. And that's later when I looked at you and said, I thought we were going to supposed to get like fifty feet or something. You're like fifteen but I was talking about the kids that were just screaming their heads off. Oh the mom that just I don't even if it's legal for me to talk about this, but I'm just sitting there. She just walks up and just screaming her kid and just flop right on the right on the behind,
right next to me. I looked at you. I was like, am I allowed to just let that happen like a foot for me? Yeah? Yeah, so that is that cool these days. I didn't know you could do that. I think with the hand. Yeah, only with the hand, not with the fist or the back hand, open hand, or a switch by a switch, I mean like from a tree, a limb. Oh, I remember a pick knows that when I was a kid. Yeah. Adrian Peterson remembers it too. Can you hit them with your Nintendo?
Though? No, oh no, I don't. I don't believe. So. I don't have kids. I have cats. They don't talk back. Well, they know my cat does. She's like, yeah, nis, pretty cool. Yeah, I don't have to beat my cats or anybody. Really. It kind of goes with the whole saying, like I learned in psychology class, if you teach your kid this is how we deal with things when I'm ad. Like, for instance, one day when I have children's and one of them is like, hey, Daddy, let's go to the
store. And I go to the store and I'm like, oh, I hate people, and I go punch somebody, and I'm like, wow, when I'm mad and hate people, it's okay to go punch people. Or when I get mad at them, I'd be like, hey, I'm gonna punch you because I'm mad at you, and I punch them and I'm like, oh, okay, we punch people when we're mad, you know. And I'm like, hey, you messed up. I get to spank your butt. What okay. So now they're they're learning all this stuff, so
like it's physical. You're Christian, you're really gracious to warn them like that. I remember being a kid and every time go upside the head, dude, there was never Hey, I'm gonna hit you now, no no warning. That's pretty really like see you down. I'm like, we're gonna we're gonna talk about this. I'm gonna tell you what you did wrong, and
I'm gonna thank you. No no, And you're like just in fear of like the whole I'm like, oh my god, I'm getting spank and then they'll tryna be all nice and shit, and then then then you had to talking. Oh no, I got to talking, which was twice as scary because then you're like, fuck, it's coming, like it's coming, it's coming, Like maybe I'm talking my way out of this ship. You know. Maybe that's why I started learning how to suck shit. Jerry did it.
It wasn't me, it was him. Mom was that way. Dad would just flop and it was pretty much you didn't have to like misbehave. It was if you were annoying to him. So yeah, So a little kid one time and I was like, hey, dude, let's go over here. It was like the first time I ever went to the mall, like get over here, PLoP. My Mom's gonna listen to this and be
like, why are you daw melame sending him on another one. Yeah right, yeah, well that was it was a little much at the laundry Matt today and it was experienced, like I'm glad I got to do it. That was Mitchell's first time ever ever had a laundry matt. Well, like when I was six, I mean we didn't have a wash room dryer. But yeah, I've never done it as an adult, and now I bitch
at home all the time because our washroom dryers downstairs. I have to walk all the way downstairs, come upstairs, and go down there when you have to switch it to the dryer back upstairs you have downstairs. I mean, I try not to use him as a sleeve. That was like one O four. You're teaching experience, right, No, he knows how to do. He does his own laundry. Yeah, you're giving them opportunities to help other people and make yourself feel good. It's called allowance. Yeah, you
allow him to live in the house. Right. Also, anyway, it was the last time we talked to your counselor. It's been a minute, it's been a long time. She's trying to get on some priority health I guess I don't know. Come on, Susan, let's go with it right, Call me when you're ready. I haven't talked to my therapist since she told me not to get married. Yeah, not very well. I don't think they can legally say I told you so, so you should go back.
Yeah, it's kind of more of the shame of defeat that I have to admit to. Dude, you're winning. What are you talking about, not defeated? Yeah, yeah, you are winning on that actually. But yeah, there were some people that told us some things. You didn't want to listen, din't want gonna livet some people, some people. But back to my kids getting beaten stuff and teaching them, like when you give them positive reinforcements, which could be a spanking because you're giving them something. I
don't started on this. A negative reinforcement would be taking something away. I'm not talking about how it feels or what the kid thinks, if that's positive or negative. I'm just saying, if you give somebody something, it's kind of like their perspective and you're not responsible for that and it's only your perspective. If I were to give you this tie here, that would be a positive reinforcement. If I were to take your microphone away, that would be
a negative because I'm taking something. Do you understand? The positive is you give Except for me, that would be positive because then I could go home. But positive, okay, the positive is to add something. Okay, you're adding a spanking? Does that make more sense? Now? I'm getting your logic, but I'm not agreeing, which I didn't make it up. It was in some book that they made me buy. It was one hundred and eighty dollars. So these people were right. That was not in what
to expect when expect. So there's positive reinforcements. So for example, you know, you guys are recovery coaches. So every time you guys have a recovery coach, a recovery come in and you guys coach them or whatever it is you do. I could give you a sucker like a job and then you're like, man, hell yeah, I like suckers. I should Probably it will encourage you to go get more people in so that you can help more people and kind of grow the business and become you know, recovery coaching
gurus that you are meant to meet. Now, if I were to take something away every time you didn't get somebody in the door or this is a horrible example, so I don't know, but I'll just keep going with it and said, hey, Mitch, now you don't get a chair today, or justin have fun working on that computer without a mouse. You know,
that would be negative reinforcement. So when you spank a child. Yes, you might think, oh, that's a good thing, and that's you know, I'm spanking them, But you can also give them positive reinforcement in different ways to not spank them. I know this is all over the place and makes no sense for just let me get out of this ditch. Does Marnie agree with that? I don't know. She's probably not. She doesn't listen to the podcast, so she gets enough rambling when I'm like, what should
we have for dinner? Honey, well we have no no, no, and she's like, oh, stop it, but no instead of spanking, I'm thinking of other things that you could do. I guess is my thing, like you know, whether it be positive or negative reinforcement, but to have a talk, I mean, then this this works good in the Corey I don't have kids world. I don't have kids. I don't know, but I mean sometimes you probably just get the the act right stick out even
thinking about it. You know, it's just talk back to me son. That was the nineties. Oh yeah, act right stick. It was a yard stick for me. Get the act right slack. If you're real good, you you got that hand from dead when he got home too, Well, how would you do it. Then if you had to give your kid like some kind of punishment, some kind of again positive or negative, take away their phone, give him some trash duty. He's already got to do
that. So he gets his allowance to take away his trash duty, take take away his air. That's what I'm saying. I think the face you just made, it's starting to make you realize that the little philosophy here is a little off. Yeah, I'm not gonna give you your chance to do my laundry no more. I have in the past done the grounding thing, grounded phone, computer, PlayStation, something you take away, you do the
negative, but I've been trying to do the positive reinforcement. Hey, if we choose something different next time, we can go do something fun, Go get a treat you like, like you like he shakes and stuff. So he starts mouthing off. You're like, hey, if you stop mouthing off,
I'll go get you some ice cream. M kind of I guess, yeah, because wouldn't that be the pole off or whatever the hell that guy's name was who did the bell thing with a dog, Like if you ring the bell on the dog heres and then now it knows it's doing the salivating thing, and it's like getting hungry severytime. Here's the bell. It's like food's coming star talking about like the palle Offs dog or paal Offs, whatever the hell that guy's name. I know. People are like, dude,
that was like a dead and alive at the same time. I was dude, No, it's a dude. And he did this thing and like the eighteen hundreds and yeah, he rang the bell and the dogs are like, oh, okay, now I'm hungry because they every time you ring the bell, he would feed them. So now now your kids gonna start talking shit you and expect ice cream, And like, Dad, I'm not doing your laundry with skid marks in the underwear no more. And you're like, son,
if you stop saying that, let's go get some ice cream. Thanks Dad, you're the best. Not quite, but yeah, on your way at home. He finishes his up and he's like, Dad used to be like cheese sometimes. You know that, Well, son, let's go back that whole pie. So let's go back to the ice cream shot. Go get you some more blizzards whatever they're called flurries. How how come there's gonna be one blizzard? But every other store has a flurry. You can get
sassy like McDonald's and do the Mick flurry. Yeah, shouldn't the mix Blizzard? It wasn't. Somebody just has some balls and it's called the real Blizzard. The real Blizzard d copyrighted it, right, That's what I'm saying, Like, how come nobody can copyright the flurry? No one did. Nobody. I'm sure somebody did, but I'm gonna just gives her ship. Yeah, nobody else was Bob and Debby's Debbie's ice cream Shop to do this? And then never was like, we don't care, right, I have a
blurry. I have a blurry. That's not a call it. That's a different kind of drink coming up. I can't take your kid out for blurry. I want to blurry. I'm gonna go to the Dirty Queen and ask him that. I'm like, hey, man, can give me blurry? Like, what's that? I would have tried that back in the day. Here, I got some of this. You put it in there for Oh, I've done that. It's a blurry, right, I did that East
Jordan Tyrone's Stomping Grounds. There's that place next to his, and I had this milky way, and I was like, hey, man, put that in there, and they're like, I wasn't talking about milky Oh no, yeah, I was trying to give positive reinforcement. Someone's here and knocking on the door. Are you knocking about you? Hello? I just finder who it is? Hi? Rachel, Rachel, Hi, Rachel. No, Hey, Rachel came here. Yes, talking to the microphone and say hello,
hellow seven world. Yeah, we're talking about blurries. Blurries. Is that what they're calling your hazards? Blurry flurries? And then we created the blurry yeah flurry as in the shake. Yeah, yeah, y oh. I was thinking it was something that I wouldn't drink anymore. It sound dangerous because of the name. Is how you end up? But Rachel, you just had your smart Recovery meeting. How'd that go? It went well. We had three new faces show up, nice, very excited to come back.
Um, they all got work books, so I'll have to replace those. But it went really well. Love watching people learn about smart recovery for the first time. So yeah, if we had the door opened a few times and when we weren't in here being stupid and I heard you leading the groove and talking, and it's fun to listen to it and to kind of like interesting. I mean, there are differences, but it's not meant to replace any sort of pathway, but it is interesting if you've used to twelve
Steps, the differences between Smart Recovery and the twelve Step program. And it grows, oh, I'm sure it will. If anybody's interested, you can check it out on Zoom. I don't know how many people are on Zoom anymore, but we have that option, so feel free if you just want to check it out. You don't have to go in there and say nothing. Just just go and say hello, check it out. You can turn off your camera, your mic, do whatever you need to do. You
know. Check Rachel out and her meetings are on Thursdays at five pm. Yes, come, we'll have workbooks for everybody. And Smart Recovery dot org is the UM main Smart Recovery website that you can check out all the material, all the blogs, the creation of Smart Recovery. So check it out. And you have to come on the podcast and talk about it some time, like for real, invite me. This isn't real, Like for no, we're talking about went home hour ago we're talking about all kinds of dumb
stuff like we're having fun. Yeah, yeah, Rachel's pretty cool. And that smart recovery again, like she said, it's not you know, supposed to like take place of anything or whatever, but you use what use everything for what you can and what can give you an advantage in your recovery. And that's that's the bottom line. Man. You know, it's cool that she comes and you know, host that meeting here. Yeah, it is,
because there's not very many of them in Traverse City at all. Anyways, I think she does one at the porch shitty, yes, as well in the morning. I can't remember what data is. Well, that's kind of blurry of you. Murray Murray. What am I doing? Lury Murray? Oh my god, different name for every day. I'm tired and Marshall on Mondays, Blurry Murray Tuesdays. Maybe something. The laundry man got me all those detergent fumes because you put too much. I was just stump put
it into man. I didn't use the cup. I just like nut moved the cup over. I just had a side on the left and the side on the right, and I was like, well, they're filling that one up too, and there was no filling it up. It just like went down into the machines. So I was like, that's what. So what Tyrell asked me. When he's like, oh, how much did you put in? I'm like, first, I didn't do this, Tyrell the new name, I'm gusting and uh. And it was like, first of all,
I did not do this. And second I stood here and he put it in this thing and I like opened it up and closed it and I was and I'm like, and it's still there's the SuDS. So he goes, uh, yeah, it's not supposed to be like that. I was like, I assumed, Tyrell, thank you. Justin just not getting it. I have to get all up in it. Yeah, so you guys want to No, you gotta go here in a minute. Justin not really,
but no, I still got forty five minutes. He got Justin's meeting us tonight too, seven pm. Come on home, down, come on down, zoom it and Justjic said, oh, Jeremy Duran better be here hopefully like beach boy was doing his thing earlier, sleeping. Yeah, no at the beach. Oh yeah, all you dropped a smile. I can't believe that much of that. He had a bad day the other day. He asked, like, he usually gets about a ninety seven percent acceptance rate,
and it was slopped. He walks past the woman or a woman walks past, He's like, oh, miss ma'am, you dropped her smile. And I told him he needs to start doing it like an angry person a certain ethnic group. Oh yo, miss yo like DMX, yeah, yo dropped your smile. That never mind. But but no, I felt like I should start playing TLC or something. You know. I don't want no
scrub passenger ride or whatever. I like to say something about it when when he does it, because it like breaks the little moment that he has. It's funny. He's like, why are you gonna be like that? I'm like, because it's really fun for me. I enjoy watching you hitting on every woman just kind of pat him on the back and b we can't all
be heroes. But can't all be heroes? Man can't do. But everybody who's interested in meeting mister Durand can show up at five o'clock on Wednesdays for the Seeking Self meetings that we have, which Justin was at, which is Justin's like, hey, I'll support his meeting nice if he supported mine. Yeah, exactly. That's why I haven't want to want to Justin's yet, because he hasn't been on a Saturday. Justin has parental duties. By parental duties. Yeah, he's not even in town, bro, he's out at
the blurry shop. Right, take it to the blurry shop. Oh it's not DMX. That's fitty fitty. He's like, that's a fifty cent and you're like, that's fitty. The difference some people that were white that white. So let's let's set a tim right here. We can only talk about this for like four minutes. But it's the big thing in Traverse City. I think you mentioned it, Jeremy. I think you guys mentioned it.
There was a studio called the eight or something round round well here, studio eight, at least eight shop eight something to cut hairs and stuff of people's faces and bodies and heads. What cut the hair? It's a salion. It's a blurry, blurry slion blurs. I ain't growing no blurry slime. You know, eight called eight. I get my my blurry swan fresh clips down in Slaptown anyway, I could read you exactly where the lady posts on Facebook, but I don't feel like pull it up, and so I'm gonna
paraphrase completely off topic of anything we're talking about. But she said pretty much in a nutshell, not a mark chestnutshell. Yeah, she said that she if you don't want damn it. No, I can't even remember. It was something about if you don't know what you are, you should be a dog, or something like if you can't figure out your sexuality, like, like, she's not serving, just try, that's what you're talking about. I didn't know the name of it. Yeah, oh, now you guys
don't talk about Yeah, I didn't know the name of the place. But it's like they have moneies too, you don't want their moneys, right, it's not even about money. Like, I just felt sad for that lady because it's gotta be not happy about a lot of things. Dude, I was like thinking, she gotta drinking problem. And then again I'm not saying she does, but no, seriously, like I would be miserable all the time too and hate on everybody. Yeah, but you become clean, you
become sober, and you realize what life's really about. And if somebody wants to do whatever, dude, who cares? Man, come get your haircut. Yeah, but it says in the Bible, Yeah, your Bible, you know, like a lot of stuff. Yeah, read kings who Yeah, but then read all the Jesus stuff where he like went out and personally went to talk to all those people and he loved them. Because yeah, that's when you walk away from that conversation. Not me, I get.
I get blurry all up in it. I'm bring my blurry to the table, blurries bringing the boys. I should Yeah, my blur read brings out the boys to the yard? Are they boys? I don't know why? Day, That's how we moved out from that. Thank you welcome. But I want to debate that lady. Like I'm not debater, but it's how you know how to really enough to debate. And the only thing I liked about what she said? What was she called Whitmer a bad name or something
and you're like, oh, yeah, that's right. Stuff she said kind of sad. She probably has a lot of red in her life, so like it's I don't know, man, like because your red face because she's drinking to me, blur raise what was that man I wanted my had a political thought and you brought it back to the blurry and what no enjoy It was a roller coaster. It's fun. I'm just I'm still coming off it. But what if I get her on the podcast to get it clear name?
Because we were at dinner yesterday and somebody had mentioned something about it. I didn't really care too much to even look into it, but this lady at dinner was like, I don't know, a few blurries away blue blurries short of yeah, and I heard her time. I was like, oh, that lady, And I don't know if she worked there, part owner, the other owner or whatever. And she's like, yeah, there's a big um the cops around the way and there's a bunch of protesters on their
way up there now. And she's like, oh, I feel so bad. But you know, she said her head and it was taken out of context. I'm like, no, when she posted on Facebook what she said, I mean like if I was like I hate all blurries, and then people were like, wait, what you hate blurries? Like it was taken out of contexts and the whitmer sucks, you know, like it was taking a out of contexts like at least but no, I don't know, I'm not contentator, just waste of time. But I don't know I did.
I just felt sad for her, you know, to be like so up in other people's ship, to be like not gonna serve them and a shop if they come in here, they better be a boy or a girl or the other female. What are you gonna do? Ask him to drop their drawers or load of all the females. And there was like, I'm a man, I mean, you know, like what hitting on a somebody one time and they're like, oh no, I'm really I'm trans. She felt stupid or something or is it to go back to the Bible? Who knows?
Man? Like we need somebody. So it's her dad's fault. He didn't give her enough negative reinforcement. No, that was not enough positive reinforce. Took away that car, giving her more spankings. Maybe that's the problem, but spank her too much? No, giving her more positive reinforcement, not less take out the trash to help some people out neighbors trash. But I mean, she has a business, and I don't know there was some law. Maybe pastor didn't I have no idea. I think that's why she
was mad at Whitmer. I think it's interesting that out of all places you do that traversity, like Texas, you can merely get away from it. You don't hear about that in the news from Texas. But yeah, and I don't know it just when the first when I heard it, though, I was like, what is this nineteen sixty five right? You know, like, how do you how do you think African Americans feel? How do you think you know, Latinos feel, how do you think Native Americans feel?
That shit still happening? You know, and if anything, that would be my thing. It's like like there's a lot more going on than that lady's shop, you know, there's a lot more problems going on. And they're like the law or whatever, past or whatever, I don't know, it said that you can't fire somebody, not hire somebody because of their sexual orientation or their identity or whatever. And it's like, Okay, that's cool, but like it still happens just because you put that in a law,
like we're an at will state employment. Yeah, yeah, and like people that will look at us like, hey, you only hire white guys. Are like, no, we have Marni, we have Tyrone, you know, like Tyrone won't freaking work for us. He will not let me pay him. Damn it. Tyro taking the dron, I was I wish you were full time here man, Like, Dude's awesome. And I still think if you put a band in on the right way and we're bagging up clothes, you can pass as a Mexican. Wow, that's not racist at all.
Art apartment, We're going wrong, It's gonna go. But anyway, that was my couple of minutes on that topic, just that I feel sad for and for people that have like that much hate in their heart. And also look at the big picture of the other stuff still going on all over the earth, you know, over and it's in North Africa. They don't like white people. I think we should in that North Africa. Oh yeah, South Africa they don't like the other direction, and which is weird because
they're in Africa. How did they ever? How did they ever happened? I don't know. They said North Africa they aren't like white people, but down in South Africa it's the opposite, like the northern Yes, I'm not for sure. Puzzling anyway, just end it all. It's not a hate, and there's a difference because like I grew up how I grew up. Justin you grew up, how you grew up, Mitch, you grew up, how you grew up. Tyrone, he grew up how he grew up.
You know, if we find things that are different than us, we're gonna be like, oh, wait, that's not how we did it, you know. Or wait, your pants are different. They look funny, you know, like you're gonna have different things because different the way you grew up. That doesn't make you racist. But when you absolutely hate somebody because of the pants they wear, which, of course the color of your skin, is when I'm referring to you know, like that is when it kind
of gets a little silly. And you can't like everybody either. I don't like all white people, you know, I like this people that I like, and people that I don't like. You know, it's not based on oh he's black, I don't like him, or oh he's this and I don't like him. You know, there are people of all races. I hate. True, I'm a blurry hater. There's no not that meant to use that at that time. There's there's no clear line. I'd be hating
all of them. But there's people that I love, you know, of of color, you know, and there's there's people just I don't know. If you look at like that, life's a lot better. I'll tell you that just from my experience. Right, I was raised to like everybody, don't discriminate. I'd like to say it was they said those things, but then put us in like an all white community, so they're like, I love everybody, but there wasn't any other everybody's love, right, and that's
not working on it now. And that's how you grew up and you can't change that. And there's nothing wrong with growing up in the community you grow up in. That's the community you grew up in. You know. Tyrone, he grew up in Detroit. He grew up in a black community,
you know, and that's that's what makes it different. And that's why when you know, Tyrone will talk about things and I don't understand, to look over and he'd like, oh, he'll explain it to me, you know, just like I'll explain to him sometimes like oh no, no, this is you know, and this is how my family did it. This is what we do for birthday parties. And he's like, oh, this is what we do far you know, say, okay, cool. And it's
learning different cultures, which I think is awesome right now. I don't think we should just have one culture. I think that would be horrible if we just had nothing else, you know, this one, but like here it is. I think it's cool to have different traveling would be really lame. Yeah, we don't reason to go anywhere. We can go to Texas and see the same thing you see here. Yeah, stupid dumb people come up here and they're like, Hey, I want to go get my hair cut
at this racist ladies place. Any publicities publicity, Yeah maybe, And you know there's probably enough people around here that are like yelp all supporter. You know, there's probably some really rich people that are like, I'll cut you a check right now. Yeah, that's what it's messed up to me. We should brings it back to my conversation I had with Adam Nuth the other day about raw dogs. We're not raw dogs, but about dogs. Never
mind, listen to that episode. You don't understand what I'm talking about. It was raw something. Go listen to the episode if you haven't already. But yeah, if you're still hanging out, that's pretty cool because probably should have scared you away by now. Yeah, for sure, give us some positive reinforcement. There's a donation button at seventeen recovery dot com. You just go there and hit slash support. Do that. Check out all the videos
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