This it's to two seventeen Recovery Podcast with Corey Winfield. If you kind of look deeper at the situation, you know, which I'm sure you will, because everything that we go through is an experience that we learned from. And Justin Burke, I come right in. I am very sneaky about it. You'll be talking to someone and I'll just come in and sit at my desk and just bust one out real quick. It is the sixth though, February twenty twenty four. My name is Corey Winfield, Justin Burke, and this
is the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. Justine, you're becoming a regular. I know you can add this to your list of duties and your job title. I think it's been there for like a month or so now. Yeah, because we try to do one at least once a week. So if Martin's the co host, you just being like another co host I'm guessing, or a guest, because you're not too much to be a guest anymore. Right, and your your name is in the open, right, so all right,
welcome, thanks another co host. Yeah. Yeah, as you can hear the two seventeen Recovery Center door bell Ringing. That's where we're at the North Studio today and justin we were just talking about going over responsibilities and things that you don't want to do that you have to do, and how goals change. Yeah, because you had some goals planning for yourself this year and we went over those. But they have to change. Yeah. IRS kind of helps that. Yeah. With no lube, yeah, and getting your
taxes in order and all that. It's it's a scary, be frustrating. You want to add something else to that. Too much money to spend to have someone help you with it, yeah, Yeah, so it's like, Okay, I know I owe the IRS whatever, But on top of that, yeah, like you said, you're paying a ton of money for other people to just try to help you figure it out and try to get you
in the right pace. And we've all heard those commercials on TV or heard them on the radio and see them on TV where they're like, you all the IRS money, don't pay them, let us figure it out, blah blah blah blah blah. And then you call them and then they're like, okay, well before we figure anything out, you got to pay me a
bunch of money. Yeah. Five hundred bucks the one I chose, and that's just to get the information to do their little investigation that they're going to do, and then it's a bunch more money for them to actually do the work. Did you tell them that you're going to need to see like a time sheet? Yeah, they sent me one with my payment schedule, and they said they'll submit it like around the first of August, because my final payment won't be until July sixteenth, just to pay them. Yeah, damn.
But I want I want to see how many hours they're working on it. Yeah, Like I want to see how many hours you put in on this. So they're like, I spent like ten minutes on I just sent submit something to the government. Well I do have like three or four years. I dident file taxes too, so it's like four hundred bucks a year. Now. You couldn't do any of this on your own. Well, I probably could, but I don't have the information. Why don't you pay me? You can pay me, I should have, but but you just
calculate numbers. So where's in the favor. Let's not do that. Let's not do that today, got all your asses? Yeah, let's just leave that work. But I'm just gonna leave it to the professionals, you know, just let them deal with it. Hmm. I really don't have time on top of it. Well, I'm a professional. I could do it for you. Yeah, because you were telling me like you can't find because I was helping you find the EI in number for the businesses that you used
to work at. Yeah, and you're like, you can't just google it, you can't just find it online, And then I would it take me a couple of minutes, five minutes. But the EI numbers that you found online through Laura are different than what the Federal IRS has or an EI in number, Yes, sir, than there are different places I cross reference. I don't believe you because you couldn't even find it. And those are those are from the state of Michigan, which your EI in number. That's it,
like two seventeen recovery, we just had one. But some of those places that I was like, was it this one? Was that one? And I picked the one that was in Travers City because you said, like, for example, the autow wash place. Yeah, there was like four names for them, two of them were in Travers City, so it could it be the other one? Probably maybe, who knows. I don't know. But I did give you some numbers, and so you were telling me it was impossible to even get those. Yeah, So I'm just saying I
could help you with your taxes. Just give me fifty five hundred dollars. You're gonna deal with the RS for me, Yop, sign power of attorney over to you. Yep, I got you. I'll do it. I'll use my new Apple computer that I want to buy with your money. Oh, it's going to pay it off in a year, So just give me that money by July. Run on schedule should be good. No. But in all seriousiness, though, you have to take care of these things.
And it's not the funnest thing to do. No, it's horrible really sometimes and it feels like it. But in a year from now, when this shit's taken care of, you're gonna have a huge sigh of relief and you're not gonna let it slip anymore, and you're gonna take care of your stuff. And that's part of growing up, and that's part of being in recovery and making that change, because if you just wanted to just let it keep going on how it's always been going on. Eventually it will catch up to
you, just like everything else in life. So to let it build up and build up isn't the way to go, but to face it, to do some stuff you don't want to do. But in the end it's gonna pay off. Because we know, like most governishments can only do what like
twenty five percent of your check. I don't think the IRS necessarily has a limit on how much taken garnish here checks from what my uncle told me when he had back tax issues of failure to pay the RS or something because his ex wife was doing his taxes and he ended up working like for free one whole year because he garnished like his whole paycheck. Damn. I don't know the rules of that. I should, though, since I'm officially taking on
your case, but don't worry about it. So just his horror story of the IRS and putting it off. And I logged down there because I was
digging into my taxes to figure out what I had to do. And when you go to their website and you log in, I had a nice pretty banner across the top of my page that said we're about to seize and levy all your accounts and sees all your assets, which granted I have no assets, but because I'm paying for a car I bought from a buy here, pay here place fabulous, which isn't quite so fabulous, but you know,
so I have no assets. But if I lose all my monthly income due to the IRS garnishing me, I have no vehicle to get back and forth to work, can't afford eat, you know, and man, yeah, all that fun stuff. Yeah, but now that you're taking the bowl by the horns and so they say, and then you can get it done and do the stuff that you need to. What were we also talking about? And I was like, hold on, let's save that for the podcast. Oh yeah, oh our new addition to the office. Yeah. I notice
you and Marni have nice name plaques. Yeah, we do. And I remember last March when we came and looked, well, we looked at the place last February, almost a year ago. Yeah, yeah, and we got it in March, and you're like, yeah, we're all gonna have name plaques. And someone hung art around my door, so there's no room for a name plaque, which I think was on purpose. What No, I like the place to look nice and have art. And the one is very controversial, the one that's over by you. It has the they were
sex workers and they were getting a line tattooed across their back. Yep. And this artist who's way out there and very out there, let's just say, he gave them enough money to go buy Heroin if they would get a line tattooed across their back, and they did it, And that, to me, that shows how powerful addiction is and what people are willing to do. And it has the whole story about the guy and all that. I have a QR code. People can scan it right on our wall. Yeah.
I read the story. I just don't remember. It looks pretty cool though. It does right outside your office, and your office is kind of in the back, because I wanted to put that up front, but I figure a lot of people would just see, go what is this and they wouldn't scan it. That's over there where people actually have to walk over and look at it and go, oh, what's this? Right? So that's that's that. And then the other one is the picture of all of us,
but not you. I don't think you're in the other one, are you? No? No? Because you were too busy, that was staying somewhere else. Yeah, and we went to you fam rally like two years ago and that's a picture from there. Yep, very important picture. It's a great time that we had. It was and we drove the ats van mobile unit down and that has two seventeen Recovery on it, which was very
awesome when we were doing like outreach at the shelter here. And it's a very important piece right by your office and you just act like you don't care. You really have your name plaque up there and then you say, well, you can just throw it on the door. Yeah, like ours is like mounted on the wall like outside of our doors. I think that looks looks great, but you're there's no room for you and Adams has you filled it with art? Yeah, but I mean who needs to know where your
office is at? I guess being the transportation director really doesn't matter. Yeah, Like who comes here to see the transportation director? Not too many people. But I get a lot of emails. Yeah, you do have an email that says to seventeen Recovery. Yeah, yeah, just email Justin at two seventeen recovery dot com. Please do send them a name plaque picture. No, but we'll see. Maybe I got some surprises coming for you that you just don't know about. I hope, I hope it's that nice corner
office. You do have a oh that we talked about. It was yeah, yesterday and our couple of your plan. Yeah, got a dream big, man, got a dream big. A lot of people have a hard time with that, and in early recovery it's I don't want to say dangerous to dream big, because I don't think it is. It's dangerous to dream
something that's unrealistic. Like if I was like in treatment, I'm like, you know what, I want to be the fastest man in the world, and I'm going to practice that running, right, that would be horrible. First, I hate running, m and I would never be the fastest person in the world. That's just stupid. That's unachievable. Oh, with God, you can do everything and anything. God has his limits, you know, like like you have to put in the work bill to get it.
Yeah, And God would also say that's not my plan for you. Yea. I didn't build you to be the fastest person in the world. Corey, you know, stop it. That's why you don't like running I was going to make you a professional ice cream taster, but you get carried away,
right. Diabetes took me over. Yeah, it would. I used to think that I could eat all the ice cream I wanted in one sitting because your body would flush out all the rest of it, kind of like if I was drinking, you know, your body would just shut down. Eventually you would pass out, you know, because yourbody can't get rid of
the alcohol. And then I thought, but that would work the same, Like I would eat all this ice cream, but none of the calories were count because your body can only do so much and it would just flush the rest of it out. Makes sense. Yeah, But then like I heard about like diabetic coma, and I was like, oh, yeah, probably that would happen first. Yeah, I don't know, That's probably why I
would pass out. So yeah, it wasn't a good idea. But that was back in my early early recovery days when I had like three four months clean. I thought that was a good idea, right, But sudden obtainable goals to reach bigger goals is well worth it in recovery, Yeah, it really is. And by obtainable goals, I mean like baby steps to reach
something bigger that we want to get to. Think Marty and I were talking about the other day, or maybe you and I were talking about that last podcast that we did about like, if you have a goal and you want to do something, you know you got to figure out, Okay, well here's what I want to do. How am I going to get there? You know? With me and I brought this up millions of times, I'm going to make a movie. Well, first I want to buy a book on how to write a script. Yeah, you just talked about this on
Saturday. Yeah, So like you have to set those things up and then guess what you're going to be surprised about all the other stuff you have to do. And it was like when I started the nonprofit. When I first I started the business, I had to do that went down to the courthouse and I went to some department of that I can't remember what it was, but I had to like get like a permit or a license or something. I had to register my business with the county. That's what I had to
do. And it was like fifty team bucks or something. And from there then I could go on. I already had my end number, but then I had to do like a couple other things, and I had to register it with the state and blah blah blah. But there are different steps that you have to do to achieve your goal. And then I would look online and I have to do this, and I have to do that, And it was just a steady and like, right when I would get to the point where I can move forward with this, nope, now you got to
get incorporated Jesus. Now you need this. Now you need that number. I'm like, oh my god, I don't have that number. But those are the things I had to do. And it wasn't overnight, like you said. It was kind of piecing it together and moving forward. So if you can have patience, a clear mind of kind of what you want, and the determination to figure out what you need to do to get there and
to go do those things you need to do to get there. But you can do a lot of different things though, and people will say you can do anything. Yeah, some things, but yeah, I didn't just pray to God. I'm like, let the stuff work out. No, I pray, please Lord, let me get paid one day, but let me help people, you know. And like when I would pray on the way to help Pina. For example, to go to Sunrise to take somebody or
pick somebody up. You know, there's a two and a half hour trip where I'm by myself, you know, and I would be praying, like, Lord, I don't know when I'm gonna get paid, but boy, it sure would be nice to have a paycheck, you know, Like, I don't know how much longer we can do this, but as long as I can help people, Lord, and get them to their next stop and get them on their on their way and shut some some inspiration, share some
hope with them from my journey and my battles with alcohol, then perfect. It's gonna be great, you know. And just keep me in mind because the rent's gonna be due again. I remember those because I was hounding you for a job. You're like, yeah, that's funny, and you're laugh at me. I'm like, no, being serious, You're like, well maybe one day, Like we just kept sitting back and waiting and like, it does really work, but you have to work for it. Like it
wasn't just handed to you, no, not by any means. You had an idea and you put forth the effort to get to it, you know, and like, I remember watching a movie. You may watched it when you're growing up, where the Red Fern Grows. Now. It was about this little boy who wanted coon hunting dogs, and he asked his grandpa how to get him and he said, well, God's only going to do so
much for you, but you have to meet him halfway. And this boy worked day and night doing whatever he could do to save up money to get his coon dogs. But he actually put forth to working effort to be able to get to it, and he ended up getting two through dogs. Throughout the movie, it was nice. That is pretty much what has to happen sometimes, and that's exactly what I did. And you know, I didn't
give up. I was discouraged a lot. But even when we were told, hey, you know, you guys are gonna be funded to do transportation, you know, it's like all right. I remember I was telling you about it, and I was like, but I don't know when, And that was frustrating as how. And it's like just hanging there, man, like some that's coming. I can feel it. I was told it's coming, I don't know when, and it's just frustrating sometimes, but you can't
give up. And if it's anything worth doing, is gonna be hard, yes, And whether it's hard mentally, emotionally, physically, there's gonna be some kind of pushback to what you're wanting and what you're going after. And when that pushback comes, can you take it? Are you gonna wilt under the pressure or you're gonna bounce back and do even better and learn from that pushback? Then Okay, well that's not the way to do that. But here's here's the way I could go with it. I mean, it just
happens every day in life. Everything doesn't go your way all the time. Like there's easy roads and hard roads, you know. I mean, you can take the easy road, but that thing's gonna get hard eventually and get really hard and end you up in trouble ninety percent of the time, you know, especially in our background of addiction, like it will. But we take the hard road in the beginning, that thing turns pretty easy after we
start taking the steps to work around ourselves, Like it really does. I used to explain it to people all the time and treatment, and then when I worked in the jails for a while talking to people, I'm like, yeah, you're all in here because you took the easy road. Well, like straight up, you guys took the easy road in life. The hard road would have been going and getting the job, saving up money to do things the right way. But no, we wanted to go out and sell
dope and do this and that. But that's the easy road. And we know what the easy road gets us. It gets us raight back here. The hard road, learning about ourselves and everything else. It is hard. It's mentally draining, it's physically draining some days, but it gets better. And when you can look back and realize you did things the right way and you're kind of proud of what you did. Like when I look back at the stuff that I had to do, you know, I'm proud of it.
That just this weekend, you know, because some people will look at me who don't know me, and they're like, oh, this guy's just all to seventeen recovery. They just like to have fun recovery. That's whatever they do. Nothing stupid. He's just you know, given all this stuff, and he was given a building and he was giving my phones. No I wasn't. I wasn't wasn't given any chance. But a lot of people
don't understand that. And there's a gentleman here over the weekend when I was here and Mitch was talking to him, and he's like, yeah, I met Corey. You know, Corey gave me a ride to treatment. And then she's like, oh, it was like last April or something. He was like, nah, it was like three years ago, you know, just like what he was like, Yeah, he was like back then, Corey just had the podcast and you know, he was giving people rides in
his own vehicle. And Mitch was like, oh, but I heard Mitch kind of like it was kind of surprised Mitch even, you know, and Mitch works here, you know, but I don't run around telling Mitch all the stuff that I did and this and that, you know, because that's kind of pointless. But at the same time, it was kind of funny to hear him like, well, what three years ago, Yeah, yeah,
that's how long Corey's been doing this, you know. And now coming up on a year just about of when we started like really putting things in motion and hiring people, and when we were able to hire people to do transportation rides, you know, and I could work on actually building the company out a little bit more and moving us forward in different directions. So it's exciting and it's scary at the same time. But I'm I'm gonna do all that can to to make that happen, right, you know, And I
think it'll be nice. Marnie's going to be around a lot more. I can't wait. I know that's it's gonna be awesome. And then we have a little child on away, little sun coming in May, which is crazy. It's gonna blow my mind. So there's a lot of changes and a lot of things that I'm not even going to see coming good and bad, right, you know. But just to be blessed to be here today, I mean that that's crazy. You know. We could both be dead right
now. We could have made I mean, it could have been easy for both of us to be dead. And I'm sure you tried just as just start as I tried in my active views, you know, because you hit that point like what's there left to live for? Yeah? I was talking at Detox today and I was telling them that at one point I was drinking because the doctor has told me, if you first they say hey, you drink again, your liver isn't going to process the alcohol like it did,
like it's gonna take forever. It's gonna hurt and it's gonna be painful, and you're gonna feel sick, and it could seize up and it's not coming back on if it does, like you got lucky with it coming back on this time, like, don't push it. And I still pushed it. And I remember thinking, well, I've lived a pretty good life. You know. I was on the radio and I met some people, did some
things that were really cool. And for me to think a job makes you who you are, that's stupid, Like a job made me have a good life. No, no, no, I didn't even know what life was,
man. I had spent twenty years just walking through it drunk. And to think that, oh, because I met some famous people, that I know what life's about and that I had a good life when I had never been married, right, I never had children, Like that's what life's about, building relationships with people and learning how to deal with life, you know, but getting married and having a child on the way, that's what life's
about, man, you know. Helping other people. Yeah, that was about to say, getting involved in your own community that you live in, to pay it forward from our life lessons learned, Like we volunteer at the homeless shelter on the weekends to show them that it is possible to live a better life and guide them through how to obtain it. You know, I don't want to say we're going to do work for them, but guide them, give them phone numbers, because they have to want it just as much
as we want it for them. Somebody sent me some over the weekend too, and it said it was like this Ai voice. It was on TikTok or something, and it was like, you know, in one hundred years from now, in twenty one to twenty four, the house that you live in, someone else will live in that, and all the stuff that you bought and don't be thrown away and blah blah blah, nobody will remember you. And for the most part that could be true. And then it got
to the point where your descendants won't even know who you are. And that's when I stopped it. It was like nope. And I kind of got this from Steve Harvey, who a lot of people are hating on with Kat Williams, saying he stole his jokes and all that stuff. But he says
some stuff sometimes it inspires me and that's all it really matters. But he was saying that he wanted to be the person that when he's dead and gone and his great great grandkids come walking through the house and there's a picture of him on the wall and they're like, who's that And they're like, that's your great great great grandpa Steve Harvey and this is what he did, and this is what he came for and this is what he did. Blah blah
blah. And I want that same kind of thing, you know, I want to be able to change my life for the better, to have, you know, my great great grandchildren walk through and see a cool lass picture of my sexy little face and be like, who's that sexy monster beast And they'd be like, Oh, that's your great great great grandpa Corey Winfield. He was about dead and the gutter and change his life around and gave all
the credit to God because he said he couldn't have done it himself. And yeah, he started this thing and it helped people and it was amazing. Yeah, he was voted like the Who's Who of Traverse City or something something I don't even know. Plaques outside it's in the front office. But and then that one the who's who or the other thing. It's like, Okay, that's cool. I didn't want to hang it up, but I did.
But those are the things that we can do, you know. To hell, that's just all we can do in life, you know, I think that that might be the whole point of life, is like what can you do to make make it better for other people? And I don't know how to build cell phones, I don't know how to do technology stuff. But I pulled myself out of the gutter with alcoholism and drugs and addictions. So that can help a lot of people, right, And if I just
have one person, that's cool. But I think I've helped at least two, right, So you just have to look at it like that, and what can you do? That's what I can do. And yeah, we all die, like we'll all be forgotten at some point, you know, like it is what it is. But this is what I can do now, and this is how I can move myself forward in the little time that we do have here, you know, and to really I don't want to say make up for lost time, but because a lot of a lot of
us feel that way, like oh, I wasted twenty years. Can't do nothing about that. No, you know, just appreciate the time you do have. Especially Toby Keith just died yesterday. Well, you know, I was talking to my father and that's what he said. Yeah, he's like, you know Toby Keith that. I'm like, no, He's like, it's all over the news, all over here. I guess he has stomach cancer a couple of years ago, and then he got feeling better. He
wasn't gonna go back out on tour. Yeah, he released a tour schedule and then got sick again and just died in the middle of the night, like really fast. I guess. So don't drink out of red Solo cup exactly. It's just to make cancer. And we know what's maybe legendly that gives you all kinds of cancer, and not that that's what caused that. But dude, I have stomach problems. And I heard that. I'm like, oh, because no, knock on Munson, But this might sound like
a knock on Munson, because maybe it is. But I don't trust that they found what's wrong with my stomach, and it still hurts all the damn time, and I just wonder, you know, because all the stuff. Of course you google stuff, you get who knows what. But it freaks me out because they're like, oh, you know, it could be pancreatic
cancer, and the doctors they can never find it. It's really hard until it's too late, right, But I'm telling them it hurts, and they're just looking at me like, oh, well, you want some pills. We're not doing that. And I'm like, I don't want pills. I saw my stomach's not hurting. Maybe I ask your doctor to get a second opinion from a totally different hospital system, go down to Fort Smith and have them check it out for me. I think maybe you save my life once.
Do it again because Fortsmoth, Arkansas they do have good medical stuff there, or even you have on Yeah, but but then Priority Health really not my favorite insurance company. They'll be like, oh, well, you got to have the cancer clause, have the cancer clause in there, and you don't have that, so we're not going to pay for any of that. I don't think we can really help with that. Was that the option? Sarah Bush is calling me, you should pause the podcast. Okay, we're
pausing the podcast anyway. We're back after taking a call from Sarah Bush. That was wonderful, Yes, it was. It was a good call, and that was setting up a ride for somebody to come out of treatment across the other side of the state. Yeah, that's what we do, you know, even in the middle of podcasts, answer the phone sometimes now and I have no idea what we were talking about before, but I'm sure it
was really good and insightful. Yeah. But I don't know how much gond and keep you here off the clock because you're but in a long day today. I always have long days. I'm used to it anymore. All Right, Well, we're gonna work on your commercial this week, hopefully mitches. Facebook took it down, and so did Instagram. I guess their own bout the same people. Yeah, because they said that I was selling counterfeit product, selling counterfeit products, which there is no I'm not selling anything. We
just made a spoof video. Wow. Yeah. But they can sell fake car hurt stuff on Facebook. Yeah, And they can have like fake people make fake accounts and me report them every day and then nothing happens about that. And then these sweet Adidas shoes I see and I showed you. Yeah, I couldn't even find on the Adida's website. But they're brand new twenty twenty four Adidas, but nowhere on their website. They were at and then you told me they were Nikes. Actually yeah, yeah, the name was
actually a Nike name. Yeah, thanks for book. Appreciate you. Yeah, I told them that I didn't appreciate Mark Zuckerberg and I didn't appreciate their bots. I think I'm gonna switch over to X. Yeah. I don't really like that either, but they didn't take the stock. I don't know if I put on X. I did dip my toe in the water.
TikTok Ooh yeah, I put Mitch's video on there. Nice. Yeah, if you haven't seen Mitch's video, it's also on our app, which is a free app which you can check out to seventeen recovery dot com if you need a link for it, or just go in the app store Google Play Store to seventeen Recovery download it. But then you go to the video section, which is on the very right of the screen when you get the app, watch videos. Quite a few videos on there, nice and just about
every single podcast we have done since twenty nineteen. So yeah, lots to listen to and lots of cool stuff to check out. But the video is inspired by a real story that happened from Mitchell and buy commercial for Blue d Chanelle or something like that. Yeah, but I saw and I thought, this is ridiculous. This Colone commercial is absolutely ridiculous. I would never buy
this clone just because this commercial is so stupid. And then they sent me some smellers in the mail and I smelled it and I said, damn, that's good. I'm gonna get me some of that. I'm already got it for me for Christmas, So that was good. Yeah, after you say you're not gonna buy it, and you buy it anyways, after you smell the product. M Now I'm telling you guys about the commercial, and we're like just laughing our asses off. And I had messed up and said to
Ude was wearing a Jeene jacket. She was, It was like a leather jacket. But that made the story even funnier. When I was telling the story about it and he's wearing his little Jeane jacket and the guys are like a Geene jacket, I'm like, oh no, a leather jacket. But still, and then Mitch he's already like planning his second fragrance. Yeah.
Yeah, first one is called Bear b a r E and that's a play on blue, which they spell b l eu, so we spell Bear b a r E even though it's supposed to be b e a r y or is it. It's a puzzle for everyone to figure out. But he's already doing his next one, and he wants to call it black. I don't even want to spoil it, but there might be a gene jacket involved that I'm going to buy him with my own money. Yeah, because I think Mitchell looked great. And a jean jacket one size. He's always going to
want to go jacket off, No, for sure. Maybe that could be the center of his Bear, just new product, jacket off. This is like the fun that we have in recovery, and if we can laugh like that, because this is For a lot of years I wasn't able to laugh, really no, And now to just sit back and do silly things and and create silly things. It's fun, man, it really is. And that's why we do what we do. So that's why I'm glad I met
you at the beginning of my recovery journey. Because it's been NonStop laughter ever since. Yeah, I know sometimes you'd be laughing, but I'm not even being funny. You're just laughing. I'm like, that's not funny, dude, You're just dying laughing, And I'm like, no, it's not funny. Yeah, but no, I'm glad that I met you too, and when you were in early recovery and that you set some culture yourself and you know, had some cosition, yeah, and some things you had to work
through, and it wasn't easy. It wasn't handed to you. It wasn't overnight, no, you know of it. Like I've been keep climbing the ladder after getting knocked down a couple of runs, and just I just haven't let it discourage me, even like with this I RS stuff, you know, like, well, it's life. I did it, you know, and it all when it happened. If someone wasn't scandalous, but I just have to pay for it, they'd be lying at the end of the tunnel
on the should making the right decisions and is it fun? Absolutely not, but it's necessary and you need to do it. And Marnie's going to be listening to this and say, well, Core it's time to get on those student loan payments. Like, no, it's about I r S. Yeah, I student loans too. I didn't realize how much money I got from student loans to keep using drugs. Why at the beginning of my meth phase. Oh that was horrible, horrible decision. Yeah, like you have to
pay that money back, Like they'll take your federal tax return. Like they have that power, do they? Well, they say they do. I don't want you ass I don't want a person to luck. Yeah, I'll look into it, but you know, I don't want to. Oh that's what we're talking about. Toby Keith. Yeah, Tobey Keith and stomach canty, stomach cancer. Yeah, because I don't even know what's going on with my stomach and all I know is hers and I should get a second opinion.
You're absolutely right. Yeah, it's a different part of the country or the world anywhere, but here anything. Yeah, you get no disrespect. Like I'm just saying, Like when I had my stomach issues, I met with a doctor who said I had nothing wrong, and I went back to my primary doctor. I'm like that doctor was full of crap. I'm like, he says, I have nothing wrong. Well, why do I have heartburn every day? And I feel like I'm going to die but there's nothing
wrong with me. And they sent me for another test and then went and seen another specialist and he's like, well, you do got something wrong, but we're not going to fix it right now. I'm like, this is unacceptable, and I think a lot of it had to do was because I was on Medicaid. And then they referred me to another stomach doctor and then he was like, you do have something seriously wrong. I don't fix this, You're going to die in the next like three years because my upper flapp
and my stomach didn't work and it was actually eating my esophagus. And he figured within the next three years that would actually eat through my esophagus and I'd be spilling stomach acid inside my body and just eating everything out, and like I have a high pain tolerance. And he was like most people would be keeled over in bed right now, and I'm like, well, I've lived with it my whole life and just had to make do and still go to
work. I remember drinking bottle after bottle of pepto bismal, like I would just drink the whole bottle. Yeah gross, Yeah, and yeah, I should be more proactive on the stomach thing, but I don't know. I had to do so much for it already and I'm just like, they don't care, and yeah, I don't know, you'll find one that does.
I just got that faith, the same faith that you had when you start did this company and everyone told you it was impossible start a nonprofit without an attorney, a judge, and a lawyer, and well, I guess that is an attorney. But they told me a police officer and like all these people that I needed to have on my board. And I was like, right, I don't know any of those people. And I looked into it myself and I was like, oh, yeah, no, that's not I
don't need that. So it is what it is. But got an event coming up on the twenty ninth of this month that you're going to talk at. It's the Recovery Stories Message of Hope Part two. Yep, you get nervous a little bit, like I don't like clop crowds that I have to speak in front of. But I've been thinking about my story quite a bit because I'm doing the story portions. That's three three minutes. Yeah, so are you going to be able to get to three minutes normally you've been doing
this in like thirty seconds. Well, we've had multiple things that we were doing that day you were like three minutes, five minutes, and then like, can you do it in thirty seconds? But I would like to work with it some more with you, and yeah, love to do that. And I know Rose who's going to be one of the storytellers too, she had I saw her today and she's like, hey, text me. You know, we'll get together and you have everybody get together and kind of do
that again and go over it and kind of get your story right. But you're not supposed to write it down. You know, you can think about it, but don't write it down, and because it's more sincere that way, and it's more like boom right, not reading from a script, and just yeah, just keep going. If you mess up, just keep going, yeah, because no one else will know. No one will know that you messed up. Only you will know. And I'm like, oh, I didn't mean to say that. I just keep going. You can be
like, oh I didn't mean to say that. Hold on, yeah, and everybody knows. Then you just got to play it off right. Well, let's get out of here. Thanks for joining the podcast, justin appreciate it. Yeah, no problem. I hope you had a good night. Don't watch watch some Traders? Yeah yeah, we'll talk again soon. Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery Podcast. When a bunch of free from to seventeen Recovery go to the app, all the website to seventeen recovery dot com,