It's the two seventeen Recovery podcast with Corey Winfield. I think that's pretty fair for a guy once a quarter, four times a year trim and toenails. If it needs to be done, it needs to be done. I'll think you that you can go by the calendar year. You probably wish I would because I probably maybe really do it like twice a year and co holds Marni
Winfield the people that really are drawn to twelve step program. One piece of those twelve step groups is because it's people from all different varieties in lengths of time of sobriety. It is the third of February twenty twenty four. My name's Corey Winfield, my name's Marnie Winfield, and this is the two seventeen Recovery podcast coming from the eighth No, No, it's the home studio location, right, not the it's the home studio, so we were going to
call it that. Yeah, and it's good to have you on, Marty. It's been forever a couple of months, I think since you've done a podcast, almost as long since I clip my toenails last. I think it's like the only open you've played when when we've been doing podcasts together lately. Yeah, what kind of happens. But I played that on purpose because I did clip my toenails on the twenty fourth. Oh no, no, he's
literally looking at a calendar. Yeah I can. I can actually tell you because I was gonna do it. I'm Martin Luther King day, but I got a little busy that day. No, it wasn't then, it wasn't the twentieth. That's February, my bat horn. Yeah, twenty fourth of January. Clip toenails. That's so, that's good, that's great. And then I threw out my back doing it. I don't know how you hurt
your back clipping toenails. I don't know. It was serious work. And I talked to the guys about it, and I think they thought I was joking, but I really wasn't. Things you do in recovery, man, you know, just start clipping toenails once a quarter. Yeah, make that goal and you just go from there. But things for us have been pretty well. We saw Tyrone today, Yeah, he came by and we went
out for lunch. That was nice. And things seem to be going well at the two seventeen Recovery Center, and we have an event planned for the twenty ninth, so excited. The end of the month. It's Recovery Stories, Message of Hope Part two and justin Mitch and I think Adam and the woman by the name of Rose they're going to do the stories, and then a guy by the name of Mike and a guy by the name of Jeff
going to do the Message of Hope part and it'll be pretty good. I put together the video from the first one and I submitted it to Amazon Prime Video, so we'll see if it goes through there and clears the copyright stuff and if they want to copyright it or pay us like eight dollars to do it, and that's cool. I'm hoping it would be free for everybody,
right, something that I did to try to make money off of. I just want people to see it. And that's just you having put together the speakers that were at the last event, yep, and kind of putting that and adding in a little bit and jazzing it up like you do. Yeah, because there we had four cameras going and I think for like Kendra and Mary, the way they were standing, I can only use two of the
camera shots. And Mary looks like she was sitting, but she moved her chair to the side, so the microphone just left a big shadow right in the middle of her face, in which I was not. I was like, oh, there's no way to get it out of there. So it's like, okay, well live and learn. So I'm gonna tell everybody else this next one. Do not move like. I set the cameras up for a reason, you know, And I didn't really know what I was doing the first time. It was just like, let's turn them on and let's
roll with it. And now I know. But it still wasn't bad. It wasn't horrible. And it just has the four story tellers, which I was one of them, and then it has Mary, and then it has David g which he was great. So is that available now then or not yet? Well I submitted it. I don't know, maybe like three weeks ago, two weeks ago, three weeks ago, something like that. And I was talking to my buddy Ron Robinson and he was telling me about the
rules. I guess you could say, when you upload videos to video to Amazon Prime Video, if you have an email in there, any kind of like contact info, they will not do it. And then you have to resubmit it, and he said it takes longer. So when he told me that, I was like, oh shit. So I went back and then I deleted the video that I had already uploaded, which took forever, and then I had to upload it again after I took my email out and stuff
like that. The only thing I left in was you know, it was a two seventeen recovery production, right, which I don't see them having a problem with that because they didn't it together. Right. If they want to copyright it and they want to distribute it, you know, then they can put all the crap they want in the middle of it, in the beginning of it or whatever. But as far as like any contact info or anything like that, sure, there's really nothing there. So we'll just wait and
see it should I don't know, it'd be another week maybe. And what's the what's the length of it? Fifty six or seven minutes long? It's almost an hour, okay, because the recovery stories for like, you know, three to six minutes, because I did like six and a half minutes, and then I think Mary talked for like twelve and then David G talked
for like twenty five. Okay, but it's good stuff. And yeah, I had to use the different cameras to edit it because the straight on camera people kept walking in front of it, so I only really walked through in front of it. I have to cut over to a different camera and come back and people coughing. I think it was might have been Tyrone this year, just people coughing. I'm like sex. But I did add music to it, which kind of I guess not drowns out the cough, but it
doesn't make its apparent prominent. I don't even know. It's just like, hey, it's we're real people doing real thing in real time. So it's not like all right, you know, message of hope. Take five that was it. Whatever came out, whatever came out. So yeah, but it's pretty cool and I think people would really like it and there's some really good messaging in there. And we'll just see if if when it comes out on whatever, I will let you know. Yeah. Oh, it's a
workout time for our kiddie. He has a sing where he picks, like I said, the worst times that he decides he wants to run his little wheel. I was like, what is it. I'm like, oh, I can't like what is that noise? Yes, a big wheel. The cat just runs on over and over. Imagine like a hamster wheel but way larger. Yeah, it's like that. It's really awkward. It gets there's really no good place to put it. No, it's really not. If you have like a six bedroom house, it would be like put it wherever,
put in the cat's room. If you're if you're a cat person and cat owner, you know, if you've ever gotten a kitten like that year mark, Like they're full of energy and they're just like, yeah, I can run and run myself into a wall like they don't even care. Yeah, Like our cat just runs into the window. He runs just wham, and it just doesn't make any sense. Like it looks kind of cool.
Like today this morning he ran in the jumped and then like kind of hit his back like his ass on it like man, like he was going to go up and like jump off it or something kind of like dirt biker tricks. I just looked and I shook my head. I was like, man, that dude's crazy, I know. But then they kind of calmed down and then they just like around and do nothing. Yeah, but he's in
that stage right now where it's like just it's crazy. I wonder if human babies do that too, No, I don't think so, not to that extent. Uh. Yeah, we're doing with our our boy in May. How's the pregnancy going. It's going well, it's gone really well. It's I mean, obviously, anybody, any woman who's been through it, it knows it's there's unpleasantries about it, you know, discomfort and just kind of
like everything's a little more difficult to do. But I mean I'm not really super complaining now because I mean I can't you know, there's still more to come with the third trimester, so ahead of me, ahead of us, let's say. Yeah, that's kind of a even though you're not the one with the you know, baby in your belly, it's still it still affects, you know, us as a family and and stuff, which we're talking
about. Possibly. I can't believe you never heard of what a baby I wonder for anybody here knows what a baby moon is, because you made it sound like it was something that I made up. Yeah, well I never heard of it. You know. I guess I really don't know a lot of people who have babies. I guess or talk about it. So yeah, when you brought it up, I was like, what, you just want to take a vacation? And then I brought it up to your mom and your mom was like, oh, no, you guys just went to
Seattle. You don't need a vacation. I was like, okay, mother in law. Yeah, well that's I'm just going to I wish I'm glad that I wasn't there for that comment because it's blowney because now I'm starting to think, like, man, eighteen years a long time, you know, to not just go off and I mean we can go off and do stuff, but like to have one last bang, right, Because when we went to Seattle, we didn't know. I mean we were hoping, yeah,
that would be the last like crazy vacation we took. Yeah, but now it's like, man, we can really get it get another one in real quick. So we'll just have to figure out where you'd want to go. I guess you know, like these are sober people problems. Yeah, these
are like good things to have. And when I was thinking about stuff the other day about you know, how how far I've come in the past few years, and you too, how far you've come and the things that we're doing now in life are the things that we wanted to do at one point, whether we knew it or not, and here we are doing it. Yeah. And I was talking to Tyrone today after you left, and Tyrone
were ouse. I gave a shirt, a couple of two seventeen recovery shirts, and I was talking to him and I was like, you know, like, if you'd have told me, this is what I'd be doing, you know, five years ago, or even you know, four years ago when we first went to the UFAM rally, you know, like I got out of treatment in March early April of twenty nineteen is when we started the
podcast and then we were on our way. Man, I guess that was five years ago, wasn't it. Yeah, if you'd have told me, like when we were at that first UFAM rally, which I got them to give us a media sponsor. Again, you can go back and listen to the podcast from then too. It's probably bad. It could be entertaining just to hear what we were doing and what we were saying and where we were at. But we showed up. They gave us a sponsorship so we didn't
have to pay anything. To be a part of it. We talked about a lot on our podcast, and then we got there and they told us they were going to give us an eight foot table. I don't know this said they were going to give us a six foot table. So we bought a six foot table cover, which I screwed up. I tried to iron on a logo. It didn't work. It was horrible. Well, we get there, then they got eight foot tables. Our table covered didn't even fit. Like it was just it was just we just had to make the
best of it. And now, honey, you know, because you've been there, we look pretty good when we show up, you know, like we look like we're we have it together. But back then, you know, it was just me and Rob, you know, it was, Yeah, it was. But yeah, if you'd have been like, hey, and it's what you can be doing, you know a few years from now, I would have said, what are you talking about? How am I going to do all that? Yeah, it's nuts, but that's what happens.
And I was telling Tyrone too, like early in my life, early in my career, I knew I wanted to, you know, be on the radio. I knew I wanted to do this and do that, and I would go after my goals. And then when I started drinking and you know, smoking pot and all that like big time, that's when my dreams kind of became something that I would just tell people, Oh, yeah, I want to do that one day. Yeah, I want to do that.
I want to be this, I want to do this. But now that I've had, you know, five years of being sober, when I say things, I know that I can achieve them, and it's a part
of like, well, how are you going to do it? You know, I told you that I was gonna make a movie, Well I should write a script, yeah, you know, And so I bought a book on how to write a script and I start reading that, and there's going to be things in that book that will, I don't want to say, send me on a little detour for making the movie, but there'll be things that I learned that I'll have to do before I make the movie, you know. And there is just part of the process of wanting to make a
movie. Now, if I just just like, Hey, I'm going to make a movie and you're like, well, how are you going to do that, I'm like, I don't know, just watch a bunch of themen buy a camera. That's not really right. I'll just say I'm going to make a movie, and I'll be eighty years old. I'm like, oh, I'm gonna make a movie one day, and you'll be like throwing pancakes and coffee mugs at me and like, shut up, shut up with that
stupid movie. You didn't make it, and you're not going to. I'd rather say, yeah, you did that once and it sucked, so shut up. No. I mean, like, I think, I think you're right. I think with setting goals, and especially since you know they're where, you're in a place where you're healthy enough and sane enough to have the goals that we come up with be realistic, right, and it's not like it's not that far off base, And we're also realistic about the fact that
they don't happen overnight. And I was never in that healthy space when I was in my active addiction. Even if I had some kind of idea in mind of something bigger, bigger that I wanted to do down the line, it's like I didn't. I didn't have any idea how I would get there. I couldn't even wrap my head around like what would be the first steps
to like make that happen? Because I wasn't I wasn't healthy, and and it didn't seem achievable, so I didn't Actually if you didn't actually believe that you could do it, then you wouldn't actually think about in a realistic way to an approaching, approaching making that actually happen, you know, and all
that stuff comes with time. So like these people that are in early recovery, like there's nothing wrong with having big ideas, There's nothing wrong with that, it's just what are the small things that you're going to do to get to that bigger thing? You know, and make sure first things first, make sure you have like your your ducks in a row for your own health, like have you are you make sure you're physically healthy? You know?
Do you have you know? Have you do you have a job that you know that you that's conducive to your recovery, so you know it's not putting your you know sobriety and danger that and are you budgeting correctly? Like there's all these little life skills that we just did not address when we were in active addiction. And so yes, always have your big goals and your small goals, but like stay in the here and now too, to make sure you don't get too far ahead of yourself and you know, then end up
back at square one. Like that's the kind of mentality I needed to have when I was kind of like laying things out for myself because at one point I thought being sober six months was impossible. A year that's crazy. And I tell people that first year, and maybe it's because you're getting a coin every month. And the thing I did, and I've repeated this over and over on the podcast, when I did with my coins is I started giving
them to my mom because then they met something. At first, I was like, if I'm not getting another two month coin, another three month coin, I've collected so many of those, I'm not going to do it anymore. But then I realized, Okay, well I'm gonna send them to my mom because that'll mean something to her. And now it meant something for me to get those coins. So that was another reason, you know, to
keep going every month to get another one to my mom. Yeah, and once you hit that year, I think, was it the na you get a year and a half coin or tag or something. Yeah, one of those or something. But then but for like AA people or whatever, you know, like I don't really get my coins from A anymore. I just go online and get them. Actually you get them for me. I do, and I buy mine and send it to my mom. So it's it
seems like it goes by a lot faster after you get that. The year and our man Jonathan Domond Cadillac, he was telling me like, I can't believe I've got like I think maybe three years now, two years, three years, I don't know. He's doing really good. He's in that point where if he looks at drinking, he looks at it like, WHOA, why would I want to do that today? You know, like why would I just stub my toe into the wall. That's not a good idea.
And it does. It flips to where you start looking at it that way, and that's a good place to be. But with the goals, you can do it. And like you said, Marnie, it doesn't happen overnight. You know, all the stuff I want to happen overnight. Most of us do. We want it now, we want it today, we want it, come on, let's go. It doesn't work that way, but you can make progress every single day. I mean there's a a lot of days. I mean, just look at the year three hundred and sixty five.
Chances to get better every single day. Yeah. And I think a lot too of the fact that why we lose that momentum of like getting doing, taking the little steps towards the big goals is because we don't have the confidence in ourselves. And like, at least for me, is I was able to maintain my sobriety and you know every day just be like, hey,
I did it again. I did it again, you know, and keeping those expectations certain accountability for myself, but not like throwing myself a friggin parade every you know, it's kind of like this is my life now, Like this is how I need to live my life if I want to be able to live and be have a productive have a productive lifestyle and interaction with
the world. And so the more I was able to do that on a daily basis, the more confidence I had in myself, and the more it was like, let's keep check been away at this stuff, let's keep doing these things and these little things that I do. And then maybe I came up with something that was a little bit bigger, a little bit more challenging,
but it didn't see seems so self defeating. It was like because when we had these big ideas, even in early recovery, even if we were sober for a minute or two or a year or whatever, and we're like, yeah, that's never gonna happen. I don't even want to put that on my radar. I'm setting myself up for failure because that's that's too big. Only good shit like that happens to like other people, not to me,
which is totally not true. But if you keep staying clean and sober and recognizing these little victories, you'll recognize how much potential you actually have. And it's amazing. And there'll be times you want to give up there betimes is hard, and there'll be times you just want to throw your hands up and like I can't do it, But you gotta stick with it. You gotta trust God, you gotta have faith, I really do. Or the
times and bad stuff happens and you're like, why is this happening? I've been staying sober, like like, aren't I supposed to be getting like these free passes from negative things and from misery? Because I look at me, I have not picked up a drinker drug, and it's like, no, sweetheart, that's life. That's just these things happen and you just need to, you know, navigate through them bus as you can, because I know drinking and drugging is not going to make them easy go away or make them
easier. Yeah, And I look at it like I'm a pretty smart guy because they say you learn from your mistakes. Learned quite a bit a lot of stuff I know. But that's another thing too, is people will compare themselves to other people, and then they shouldn't do that, and don't let people rob you of your dream and your goals. People will laugh, people will tell you you can't do it, they'll judge you for it. I
was talking about that today in the online meeting we had to seventeen. Recovery Center is about other people not understanding what your dreams and your goals are. But at the same time, when somebody questions you or maybe questions your sobriety, Hey, what are you drinking again? Or what's going on? And people get mad about that. Oh I can't believe they wouldn't trust me.
Oh no, no, no, you earned that distrust you really did, because you've lied, you've cheated, you've done things that you said you didn't do, and you got away with a couple times probably too. But so if somebody doesn't trust you when you're in early recovery, you earned it. You know, you earn that distrust, just like you have to earn that trust back. So even if you had two years three, it doesn't matter. If somebody questions you or or your sobriety or or whatever, then you
can do about it. You can't change the only way you can change someone else's mind by actions, by showing what you do on a daily basis and moving that forward, and then they can't really say that about you anymore. Like Mitch's telling me that somebody who's like, I think he's in prison off meth, but he was running around with the homeless community here in Traverse City
doing hood rat stuff. And he told somebody from one of the shelters in town that, oh, two seventeen years, oh that to sevent two recovery. That's that's the bunch of guys that say they're sober and they're really not. And Mitch was like hurt by that, you know, and I'm like, well, people are gonna say dumb shit, you know. But if he came or if he knew me, this guy, which like I said,
i'd have to write him because he's in prison now. But there's no way he would say that, oh, you're not sober, you're not really in recovery. Held. He wouldn't say that about any of us, you know. But people like to talk shit, people like to say things. But I know for a fact that I'm doing the things I need to do to move my life forward. And I have the track record where I can just point back and go, look, look at this. Do you think I could do any of that if I wasn't sober? Are you kidding me?
And that's kind of unfortunate that, you know, people like that, because at the end of the day, hurt people and sick people, you know, who don't feel good about themselves, tend to try to take stabs at other people to make themselves feel like they're not the only one that's messing up, and even if it's completely one percent untrue, you know, And that's sad. But yeah, you can't. You can't go buy what other people say out there. You have to just worry about your own self worth
and you know, have confidence in yourself. That's what you got to do. But something else I want to talk about today, and yeah, I still want to keep it around a half hour, but just real quick. I heard about this on the radio the other day. I was driving home and the ticket they were talking about this new product that's out called high Seltzer, and I just wanted to be completely honest and talk about it. I've talked about it with you, Marnie, I think I have. I know
you were there when I was talking about it a couple of times. But it's high Seltzer and it has the should I can't remember it at Yeah, it's the Delta eight, Delta eight something like that, and like the weed that you would smoke and all that stuff or whatever has like Delta nine that gets you really super messed up. At the Delta eight. It's a legal thing. It's kind of what's in the gummies and stuff. It's more of
a mellow one weed. Guy told me when I was talking to him about it, he said, yeah, it's like a diet It's like a diet weed. You know, you still get high from it, but you won't be all like crazy or anything. Well, this high seltzer, it's like zero alcohol, zero sugar, zero chemicals whatever. It has one chemical in it, a delta eight. But they say drinking a bottle will get you the same buzz as drinking two glasses of wine, but at leaves your system
quicker. And I started thinking. I was like, man, that'd be pretty cool. And then I really started thinking about it, and I thought, oh no, that's dangerous. Like I couldn't just have a beer. I wouldn't stop, you know, like if I started drinking this stuff to get a buzz. Okay, first of all, what do I want a
buzz? It feels good to be present, it really does. And if I drank that, and I'm sure other people with a drinking problem like myself would hear this and think, oh man, that's that's what I'm going to do then, because it's legal and I can do it and it gives me a buzz and it's safe and blah blah blah. I don't think it. I don't think it would be safe for me. I don't again, I can't even have a beer. Well, if you really want it for me, I'm a hundred of them and this is just just hearing this, Like
even when I heard it, you explain it for the first time. It's for me. It's just like you're describing a mood and mind altering substance. So like, I don't care what the label says. It doesn't matter to me. I'm not on probation. It doesn't matter if I consume something and I test positive in my pee or whatever. It's I'm not interested in taking anything that is a mood or mind altering substance. Would have been altered for so long. So it's like, if there's no appeal in that, there's
no loophole that I'm looking for. I'm not looking for some kind of like validation of what some label says that makes you feel some kind of way, But it's technically not a thing that we're that we have sworn off for life. That's a friggin' that's BS. So that's yeah, just as someone I don't know if it was, you know, the former addict thing that is just immediately I'm like, oh wow, like that's pretty cool. Then you know, the recovery cory comes in. It's like whoa, wha, whoa.
It's not a little close to home, You're going to drink something that gives you a buzz or mind altering you know, didn't you do that before? How'd that turn out? Oh? Yeah, almost killed yourself? Okay, great, and you're gonna try that again for what? For a little buzz? Because you don't want to be present for something? What? What's going on? And you were not present for twenty years, you know, like, why would I want to go back to that? And yeah, at a little close to home, Oh, I can drink it. Oh
that's my shit. But just the brain, you know, hearing it and going oh hmmm, But it's that, it's that And in those moments that you really have to catch yourself, you know, as someone who's in recovery, someone you know, who wants to live a different life than what you were living before. You have to change, have to change what you do and to change how you think. And I'm not a bad person for coming to my brain because that's just the natural thing that it would do, I
guess because I'm a former addict. But you have to catch that because it had been easy for me to go, let me get online and order these, but I had to go no, no, no, no, like that does a horrible idea, and you have to like think about it. Now. Do I care if my brother or sister do it? Nope, I have no control over them. I don't think they're bad people if they do it. No. I just I'm just talking about for me, my aunt and my uncle. They could all do it. I don't care.
My mom could do it, you know what. I don't care. That's on them. I know I can't do it. And is it safer than alcohol? Probably? Alcohol is the most dangerous drug out there, and people act like it's not oh no fiting, no, oh no heroin. If you really want to look at the stats, how many people die every day. Alcohol wins the tobacco as well. But I just think that for me, is a very dangerous idea to even have in my head. Even though I'm not a bad person for having an idea. It just popped in there,
and I think that was just a n aptural response. But I just have to know that that's just that's not for me. Well, I mean, I wouldn't stop at one because I never wanted two glasses on wine. I wanted one hundred. Yeah, But if you really like break it down and step back and like, look at the whole thing. It's just like all you're doing is is your the end the end result is your under the
influence. Right. That's so if you mean not to like sugarcoat it, but they're saying here you can feel under the influence, but technically you're not under the influence because it's legal man delta agal, it has no that doesn't matter. It's you're under the influence. So like that to me is like using substances doesn't matter. It's just a different substance. It is absolutely so.
I just wanted to throw that out there real quick. Yeah, and also before we jump off your since must I almost at thirty two minutes, Mitch I made his commercial for his colone called Bear and if you want to watch it, we have a TikTok now. I tried to making it for two seventeen. Somehow I made it for myself. I have no idea. I posted on there, and it's on Facebook too, under my personal Facebook, but I think I tagged mentioning it and I'll probably put it on two
seventeen recovery because it's just it's silly. It's fun. In recovery, there's a story about Mitch, and I'm not going to make you go back and listen to the podcast. But there was a time that he might have wandered into the woods during a disc golf game because he had emergency, which of all, everybody in the world has had emergency number two, right, And he told us about it. That was that was his big mistake, was telling us about it. And I saw the commercial from It's Blue d Chanel
or It's from Chanell or whatever. I might even saying that, right, yeah, okay, that's it's a Colone and it has the guy from Dune in it, and he's just looking all d baggy, you know, looking at the camera. He's looking like he's supposed to look for a clone commercial. That's what they were going for. I was ragging on it. I was like, man, I saw that. I was like, you gotta
be kidding me. That's just that's horrible. And I'm joking. And then they sent me a mailer that has you can open it up, you know. I think it was like author or somebody open up and you smell it, and I'm like, damn, that's actually pretty good. So then I had to buy it for me for Christmas. I like it. Yeah, but we thought we would make spoof commercials. And we were like sitting in the office one day, me, Mitch, Adam and Justin and I was
like, we got to do that. And we were started like joking about what cologne or what sent what we would do, and Justin said it would be fabulous. Adam said he wanted his like wood or something, and then Mitch got on the whole oh like go in the woods, and somehow I was like, oh, there's a bear shit in the woods, you know that whole question, and so it took us back to the incident of emergency pooping in the woods, maybe allegedly, and so we made a video with
that. Mitch happened to have a bear costume, like helmet, bear head, so we went to the college and drove around. He drove around with it on his head for a little bit just to get the shots that we needed. It wasn't doing anything too unsafe, and then I, you know, it was in my movie making skills. So I got some pretty cool shots, you know. The one with the mirror was pretty sweet. I was doing it. I was like, all right, Mitch, look up now, and he's like, oh, I know what you're doing. But
it was it was interesting. You know, I had the drone out, got some drone footage and yeah, so just check it out. It's it's worth it, really is. It's funny. It's really funny. It's inspired by a cologne commercial and a true event, so keep that in mind when you watch it, so have and have fun and remember it's all about fun and recovery. Yeah. If you watch that video and go these guys are hating life, they're not having any fun, then you clearly are not understanding
the message of the video, right, So enjoy it. And I should put it on the website too. Just absolutely TikTok and all that. So yeah, I'll edit to the website of two seventeen Recovery dot com. The time you go there, it will be there, and it'll be on our app as well. Enjoy that. And Marnie, thank you so much for coming on the podcast and doing one from the home studio. Yeah for sure. All right, have a good night everybody. Thanks for listening the two
seventeen Recovery podcasts. We hope you come back for our next episode.