It's the two seventeen Recovery podcast with Corey Winfield. Stuff went numb. That shouldn't go numb. You know what I'm saying. And I was like, what is it? No, I don't, No, you don't and co Hols Marney Winfield. It was kind of an awkward thing. He's like, would you guys want come along? Can you get away to come to the island. I'm like, yeah, we just got back from there. It is the eleventh of February twenty twenty four. My name is Cory Winfield.
My name's Marnie Winfield. And this is the two seventeen Recovery podcast. Super Bowl Sunday. But you can't say Super Bowl who you can? Because I mean whatever, we're not making money off this podcast and we're talking about real life. Thanks super Bowl, right, it's on TV. So happened in
today? The Chiefs versus the forty nine? Who you got? I like the Chiefsky It's just I've always favored that team except for when they're you know, playing Buffalo, because that's who I like because that was my fantasy stack had Buffalo players. Yeah, and you had some Chiefs players too. You had Pachenko this year on your fantasy team. I did. I've had Pajenko since he just started getting good, yeah, which was this year, which is good. I had him last year. Yeah, he didn't really do
a whole lot last year until kind of the end. I don't if I remember correctly, Like in the super Bowl he did really good and I was like, Okay, now we see her. That's just coming out party. And then because they had old Clyde Edwards Hilaire. When I say old, I mean like twenty five, right, Yeah, but he's just kind of not the guy they thought he was, I think. And pa Jenko is good. He runs hard, and I think the difference tonight and everybody's like
San Francisco's got a defense, it's pretty good. Yeah, you can pass on them. And what does Kansas City have. I don't know the best ter back in the league right now. Who's going to catch the ball besides Travis Kelce. That's to be debated because they do have some wide receiver issues. But that Rice guy is pretty good and they got Kelsey and Pacenko can catch the ball a little bit, so it'll be good. And I think
Kansas City's defense is actually better than San Francisco's defense. San Francisco has a couple of guys that will sack you and all that stuff, But other than that, I don't know sure. I mean, Detroit, look what they did to him, right, you know, just Detroit forgot you had to finish the game. Yeah, And I use that in analogies when I talk to people now, like seriously, dude, like like you can put in all the hard work you want, and I notice it and I get it.
But if you look around, everybody's talking about the fumble you did, you know, like like I was like comparing it to his name, Gibbs, the running back for Detroit, Like he had a great year, he won them some games, you know, just on being a badass, and then everybody talks about the football yep, you know. And same thing with Reynolds who dropped the ball. You know, he could have had eighteen catches in that game, but you still be talking about the one that was on
fourth and two and he dropped. Yeah, he was. He was doing some amazing stuff last couple of games. I don't know if that's just like the human nature of what or if it's the pain of the drop hurts more than like catching eighteen ball. Of course he didn't catch eighteen balls. But I'm just saying, like, is it the oh kicking the nuts that hurts more than the celebration of yay? I think it's. I think it's easier for people to find things that can where the outcome is due to placing blame
opposed to finding things that people did good to make a different outcome. It's not collective when it's just something like that. When it's a win, it's like, oh, everybody you know there, they can say these people shined, but they don't win games or people that people like stuff like that isolated events, they'll be like, that's what happened, that's why we lost because
he dropped that one ball. Yeah, but they will or he fumbled and yeah, kickers get a bad rap two And it's like, okay, kicks aren't guaranteed, and I don't care if it's from ten yards away, eighteen yards away, something could happen to snap the whole. You know, like there's so many different things that could that could go wrong, but people just think it's a gimme, Oh, it was only twenty yard field goal,
he should hit that. Well, you know, there's a lot of factors in it, and then people want to like throw it out there, like the person came in like super drunk or hungover, or or he did something on purpose to miss that kick. You know, well, if he wouldn't have been out partying all night of the night before, maybe he was. Maybe he wasn't. You know, sometimes you just miss things. It's not like a guarantee. It's not like death, like hey, we're all gonna
die. It's guaranteed. You know, it's not a guarantee. It's a sport. And yeah you might have fumbled, Yeah you might have dropped a fourth and two pass, but it is what it is. And from that, just like last year when the Lions didn't make the playoffs, you know, they were close, and then they finished the year by beating Green Bay and eliminating them from the playoffs. And that was Aaron Rodgers' last game with
the Packers, so that was kind of cool. But they built on that, and they kind of built on like, Okay, we need to make the playoffs next year because this doesn't feel good. Like, yeah, it feel good to beat the Packers at the end to take Aaron Rodgers out or whatever, but we want to be in the playoffs because we think we could beat those teams. And so like when bad things happened to you, like Homeboy dropping the ball gives fumbling lines, losing, they should learn from that
and never want to feel that pain again, you know. So maybe next year, if they're up big at halftime, they can finish the job. And I bet you they will, because again, that's how we learn. So a lot of lion talk usually doesn't happen. You talk about Super Bowls,
right, that's funny. I was gonna hit a drop, but I feared they didn't even need one, right, So yeah, so I think that the Chiefs are going to win too, and and I'm kind of torn because I'm a big Tom Brady fan and I don't want homes to have more Super Bowl rings and Tom Brady. So it's gonna like pump the Brakes man, I don't even think he's thirty yet. They calm down, bro well, slow it down. But I'm not a big fan of San Francisco.
So yeah, I was gonna say, you never have been back when they had Joe Montana that her real name, Joe Montana, Like I used to like Joe Montana, but then they kind of did him dirty and had Steve Young take over. But they won a Super Bowl that was their last one, which was a long ass time ago. But yeah, we'll see what happens tonight. Though I know I used to partake in a lot of alcohol and Super Bowl Sunday back in my day, and I'm thankful I don't have
to do that today. You know, I can actually try to enjoy the game or enjoy watching you sleep during the game, right, the best part of it. And I think a couple of years ago we had a friend over, I guess you could say, and you like did up the whole spread. I think that was when the Chiefs played Tampa and Tom Brady was twenty might have been one, maybe twenty one. Yeah, yeah, And that was fun, and it's cool to have a lot of food. We
have more food than we probably needed. But it was kind of cool and you were like a rock star with that. But this year's gonna be a lot different. Yeah, yeah, but that's okay. I'm going to a place called Redford, Michigan. You have wanted to call it all kinds of different names other than what it was called. What really red rock watch plants and yeah, you were calling it all kinds of different names. Ever, it's always called Redd. No, you were saying red Rock and you were
saying Rockford. I think at one time YE was gonna go, what do you have such a difficult time remembering where this training's at? Ilmost just said rhetor rock right then? I know, Yeah, we're staying in Lavonia, I am I saying that right? So we're about in the Detroit area. Yeah, and hopefully I go to that pancake house, that original pancake house is what it's called. You said, jealous of that? Yeah, man, they had this. It was good. First of all, we went
there with your mom once too. We did. We went there with the crew and we went to that Lions game bringing back the Lions come on. And they had First of all, the waistaff was great and the food was pretty good. I don't recommend the big elephant ear pancake thing they had that that really wasn't No, that wasn't so hip on that. But their pancakes are delicious and they have this like bacon thing it comes with like you get hash browns, I think scrambled eggs, pancakes like eight pieces of bacon.
Yeah, we talked about it before we talked about it. Yeah, it was amazing and it was thick cut bacon. It was so good. Yeah, I love that place. So hopefully I think we're close enough for I can pop in there and Adam's going with us because we're doing recovery coach training, which you're like, Corey, haven't you taken this? Mm hm yep couple times. But the difference here is this is the state's training. Yeah,
you're like, well, isn't that the same training? Yes, I've heard of it is pretty much exactly the same, but I have not taken it. But we're a nonprofit organization and we work off of grants, and in order to use these grants, you have to have people like Adam, Like Justin's already certified with the state, Adam is not. So Adam's going
with this training as well. Mitch is going I think next month, And once you get certified, then you can be trained to from the state and then you can use state money to pay for the you know, you can use grant money to pay these people's salaries. And then I'm going because there was some kind of certified certifications super duper something I figured out. I want give me some of that. I don't even know what I just said, and it's fake anyway. It was a whole lot of words with no real
like definition of what it was you're going for. Yeah, so you get what I'm saying. No, but I have to do that and somehow. Okay, So if I hire somebody or we hire somebody and they come along, we have to have someone who is state certified in order to like certify that. Yeah, there you go. You know, like, hey, you're under me, Like, let me three reports. It's like being supervised. Yeah, that's kind of why I'm doing it. Plus I have a few things I would like to get off my chest. I get there,
look out. That's the thing about being unforgettable. It's not always a good thing. Oh it's not. Sometimes it's bad. We went to the Verizon the other day and walk in and I was like, yeah, She's like, oh, yeah, I remember you. I don't know if it was that apparent, but and you said, is that bad thing? And she's like, eh, no, neither neither here nor there. Not really,
Yeah it wasn't a good thing. It was. Yeah, well I'm sure they I'm sure that a place like that has a lot of disgruntled people that come in, so well, they made us sway for the half hour. Then they told us that they couldn't help us. Actually, I think it was like forty five minutes. I was like what some would drive back to work and then the Robin guy who I had spoken to, calls me on
the phone was like, hey, man, we can help you. I was like, oh, okay, well I was just there and they told me you kind of oh no, no, no, they didn't understand blah blah blah. Okay, so that we got team caraff But being unforgettable, that's what I'm I'm not setting out to do that at this training, but there's just a lot of things that I have questions about and I want to bring it to light in front of everybody because I hear a lot of things
that and Okay, here it is. I'll break it down for your real simple Not everybody needs to be in recovery. Right there, you go, done, Mike done. Now, I'm not saying everybody can't be in recovery, but it seems like everybody wants to be in recover. Everybody wants to say there in recovery. Everybody wants to go drink on the weekend, smoke pot all the time and say they're in recovery wolves because it's not my drugg of choice. Okay, let me break it down for you real quick.
This. So I've tried meth, I've tried a heroin. That's not my drug of choice. Alcohol was So I'm not drinking alcohol. But if I want to do some meth on the weekend, I should be fine. Right, it's not my drug of choice. I'm in recovery. When I say, am like to me, that makes no sense, you know. And again there's nothing. If somebody wants smoke meth on the weekend, go do
it, you know. But I'm telling you is a bad choice. But you don't have to say you're in recovery, right, you can just say, hey, you know, I don't drink anymore, right, you know. But if they want to include everybody, I don't know if it's a money thing, Like if everybody that was just hey, completely off every single thing, they're like, oh, we only have eight people in the Holy
America that does that. Because you want to bring it down to every little thing, sugar, everything, it would probably be eight people in the whole nation, but to include everybody. They oh, well, if you do that or you do you know whatever, it's harm reduction using air quotes, then that's fine, you know, that's cool, and that's better. It's better to do this than this. And that's the thing too, is harm
reduction is such a wide thing. Like when I say harm reduction, people might be like, oh cool, we are your passing out needles, and other people like, oh wait, hold on, that's medicated. That's as sister treatment, you know, medicated, a sister treatment. That's kind of harm reduction too. But there's so different spectrums of the passing out needles to take in some boxin to be taken vivitrol, but it's lumped into harm reduction. So when you say it, what does it even mean? You like?
Those are the things I would really love to get down, like to a science to just like what does it mean? And again, not everybody needs being recovery, right, you know, if you're smoking weed on the weekend or doing whatever, if you're doing a mind altering substance. But I do it from my back and I don't care. It doesn't matter what you're doing it for. It's not the point of it, you know, to
confuse somebody who's early in recovery. Safe if, for instance, somebody comes to our two seventeen recovery center and they want to hit a meeting on the weekend. They come in and say, we got somebody that's leading in a group that you know what they drink because their problem was I don't know, just to say pills or something, you know, And so they're like, oh, no, my thing was pills, and say the person that's coming
there was like, oh, well my thing was heroin. Oh yeah, well still I drink, is what's what they're teaching people at these meetings. Oh I know, I get drunk all the time, you know, And that's fine. That's not my thing. That wasn't my problem. So then the person comes in early in recovery and it's like, well if soon as they're leading a group here at this awesome two seventeen recovery center and they're saying they drink, well shit, my thing was hair, So I can drink
then, and again they can do whatever the f they want to. I'm telling you it's not a good IDEA. Buddy of mine right now is in treatment because he thought, well, hey, hair. One's my thing, so I can drink. No, he found out he could not, and he went so hardcore with that. And I'm so proud of him for catching himself because I kind of knew it was going on. But there's nothing I
can do about it. And I don't hate him for it. You know, I'm not going to never talk to him again, but I'm glad he's at where he's at, and I'm glad he caught himself and realized, WHOA, this is getting out of control. I cannot stop. I need help, And I'm proud of him for that. But a lot of people I've known several and I don't want to start calling out names, but there were some people that were really close to me that did you know, the same thing. And one of them said, Corey, I don't know how you
alcoholics do it, and said, what are you talking about? He's like this withdrawal, It's like it's ten times worse than anything I ever dealt with with heroin. I was like, yeah, then, you guys that was give them shit because at treatment centers people well, Doupe sick, man, Doupe sick. I'm like, yeah, well, I was just sick. As an mfort and volume. Not nothing they gave me did anything. Of course, maybe probably because the liver failure thing, but like it was horrible.
So people like, hey, take this antibuse. You're gonna get real sick if you drink. I'm like, shit, I'm gonna get real sick if I drink anyway, Like what are you talking about? Like I'm not drinking, Like, sick doesn't scare me, right, death doesn't scare me. It's at one point I was welcoming it. Come on, come on, come on, I can't do any of this. I can't figure it out. It's the easy way out. Not even that wasn't even an easy
way out. Well, I think there's the one piece that I can see where why people want so badly to be able to relate where they're at with the word recovery is because recovery is has a positive connotation to it. It is a very strength based word and very productive word. And for somebody who
struggled with something, and everybody's got a different story. But like you said, let's say it's heroin, let's say it's math, and like they were on the down and outs, like they were literally like like buying you know, drugs every cent out of their pocket, homeless, sick, you know, partaking in illegal activities to be able to feed their drug habit whatever.
And they actually managed to kick that, right, They actually manage to get that piece out of the eliminate that out of their life, is the use of heroin or math or whatever it is they're talking about. And so they so they know that that's their downfall, they know that's their doc and that's what gets them, and they don't ever want to get back to that pit. And you're right, like switching to alcohol, people think, oh,
we alcohol is my problem. So I mean I can get I can get drunk every once in a while, I can have some cocktails or whatever obviously for me and you know, same messaging as you is. I wouldn't recommend it because we know people who have tried to use that switch, arou and it never works out well. And so knowing that, but they still want to hang on to that piece of but what was killing me and what when
my life was so bad? I've eliminated that part, Like I don't do that anymore, you know, So it's hard I think for them to not want to still say I'm in recovery because as much as they want that heroin or as much as they want that math, they're not doing it. So to them, they feel like that translates to being in recovery. Might not down the road, right, alcoholic go to heroin and meth in the weekend, is what I'm saying. No, I get what you're saying. I
get what you're saying. I'm just saying that's I feel like illal no, But I feel like that's why they feel like, didn't they earn don't they didn't they earn that word to be able to use that word since they were shooting up with you know, needles, you know, cooking up cooking up heroin and you know, shooting it into their veins, and now they're not,
Like, don't they deserve to be able to use that word? I think is where Yeah, and if they if they want to, that's fine, But like, I don't think that you should be able to like start doing other drugs as a replacement for that drug that you used and then still say like, oh, I'm in recovery. I completely, I completely, I'm on the same I'm saying, like everybody, I mean, that's great, if they want to do that. And people can do whatever they want.
It's the beauty of life. You get that choice. But I'm just saying that everybody has to say they're in recovery. They can say they're they don't use heroin anymore. Yeah, you know, like, well, don't use the word clean. They'll tell you too, because that's a negative thing. I don't whatever you want to use, use it. If you want to be a giraft say you're a giraffe. If you want to, well, I wouldn't say have sex with animals, because that's illegal. But I
don't care what other people do, is my point. But at the same time, I care enough to think, like, okay, if that whole setting I put it in. You know, if somebody comes into the meeting and they might have the same drug of choice, it would say it was pills, like I said earlier, and they hear the person that's running the meeting or someone at the meeting talking about, oh no, no, I just don't do pills anymore. But I smoke weed, you know, I
drink time drunk every weekend and say I do hear that? Yeah, But then the newcomer comes in and goes oh, well, shit, I can do this right, because I was one of those people thinking, oh, I'll just smoke weed right, and here, here, here in lies the problem. Here's here I'm thinking, this is where you're going with this. Here's you headed off to this training about being a recovery coach. Now,
what is a recovery coach? There's different definitions of what people think that that rule serves, but in essence, you are kind of walking with someone through their journey of recovery. And so when you're stuck in this thing of what is the definition of recovery, when that part is muddled, then that gets very dangerous because here you are trying to mentor somebody saying, this is how
it is that you can get your life back together. These are the steps that you can take to or the things you should do or not should or shouldn't do, not so much as like rules, but like these are the ways where you'll find yourself to a better life. Those answers to that for me as a recovery coach is I mean, I am a certified recovery coach
amongst other certifications, but that's irrelevant. Is I don't want my messaging to be to somebody who's trying to get clean to say, but hey, go ahead and you can get drunk and high on the weekends as long as you're not doing the heroin you're doc or whatever or swip swap. You can smoke some meth when you go to parties, but as long as you're not drinking. Because we know alcohol's advice. I can't, in my heart of hearts, be a coach guiding somebody and have that be my messaging. Yeah,
I'm right there with you, and that's why. And I hear it so many times from all over the place, coming sideways, coming from behind, like just everywhere, and I think people are just making another thing. That's why I'm very interested to learn of what's being taught at the state training and if if that's the whole messaging thing. I act to have some questions, you know, I'm really really having questions, and it I'm trying to think about how to say it. I think you said it best with the whole
I don't want that to be my messaging. And technically they can't say anything about that because everybody's in recovery. When you say recovery, blah blah blah blah, but you have all these things, and then you know, just defining and I doubt we're going to define harm reduction this weekend. But you
know, the classifications of it, you know, are so broad. In recovery is so broad, and I think they do that to just include more people so they can say, well, there's forty eight million people in recovery, because it looks better when they're trying to get bills passed or they're trying to get money from places, and they're just like, there's eight people in America that need your help. Well, and that's the funny thing too,
is the government does not care about us. They don't care about our health. They care about our money. That's all they care about. That's facts. Okay, yeah, just keep me post it. Oh that's facts. That's what it is. And to think that the government is going to get you out of it or help you out or because they care, they don't. They just they want the money man, and they want to not spend money on you. And people think, oh, they pass out clean needle
so that people don't get sick. No, no, no, they pass out clean needle so they don't have to pay it to fix people who have FC, people who have HIV. They don't want to fix that. It's expensive. They don't care about people living. They care about not fixing people, not having to pay to fix people. That's it. If they really care, they would have passed out needles a long ass time ago. And some people say this shouldn't pass out on needles at all, you know,
And I'm not even getting on that conversation right now. Oh man, this is I mean that can roll intel. Yeah, because if you provide, it makes it easier to do or it's like you're encouraging the behavior blah blah, just like handing out condoms like go have sex people. No, that's not what they're saying, but you know, so, yeah, those are the those are the things that come along with that whole debate. Yeah, I'm jealous. I'm jealous. So you go onto this training, I think
it's gonna be I think you're gonna learn. I think I think you're gonna learn things in a different light, I hope, because it's gonna be different people. Because a lot of the trainings we go to kind of seem to be the same people. So maybe this is going to be a different crew and it's going to be different people that are going to be at different levels of professionalism. I think probably because they're all they're all going for jobs. It is my guess right to be able to work as as have this be
their profession. Maybe yeah, well you have to feel and let me get what I'm saying. That was the wrong drop. I love social media. That was the wrong one too. Okay, yeah, just keep me post it. That's the one I was looking for. Okay, yeah, I will. But I just hope that I hope that is good, and I think it will be for the most part. And again, you know, these are people that are trying to help other people, and that's that's what I'm a huge fan of. And people helped me along along the way,
even though sometimes I didn't want it. And even early on when I was pushing people away, I was hearing what they were saying. I just didn't want to change my life. I thought I had it all figured out and I could still do what I wanted to do. And then, you know, like I said, like trying to substitute other drugs for it, Oh well, I just won't drink, I'll just smoke potter. Oh it's meth. Well it's not alcohol, yeah, which actually I was drunk when I
just did every other drug ever. Right, So, but that alcohol is very dangerous drug and you see commercial and to me, in my opinion, it's the most dangerous. And now that marijuana in Michigan is legal, you know that that's kind of a scary thing too, because people think that that's, oh, it's just weed, you know, Oh, it's just just alcohol. Well they don't maybe they do. Know, they just started telling
you, like the long term effects of smoking weed. You know, I'm sure is not good, right, you know, it's just like eating too much ice cream. It's not good for you. You know, there's so many different vices. But why are you using it? And what are you trying to do? Well? I just like to get home and after work and on why not just smoke a bowl and get high? And Okay, which when are they gonna are they going to make any connection to like the
smoking piece of like inhaling. I mean, it's not tobacco, But are they ever going to make that connection like it's not good for your lungs? Well, see that's the thing. They have a lot of the money to not have those reports published because it's tobacco company that's behind all these marijuana places that are opening and people, some people don't even realize that they're on board being a dispensary. Yeah you do. I was doing taxes yesterday and it's
like, wait, what damn like buying a house being awesome? Nope, I was looking for that. Awesome. Are you awesome? Here's a tax break for you? Nope, none of that. But if you open a dispensary, then yeah, we can get it from the state. I was like, wait, what some bullshit? How about we were in a recovery place, but never mind cares who cares about that? We got the weed people coming in. But no, it is about being backed by tobacco,
and they're all about that, and they're going right that connect. See I'm smoking this morning. I see what happens kids. Just kidding. I was not smoking weed this morning. I was gonna make a really really bad joke about what I could have been doing with my throat being that way. I'm not gonna that's what's up. You know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying. But anyway, the uh, the temptations for everything are out
there and for people just to normalize. It is when when it gets bad, when you normalize, we do normalize alcohol, and we'll see what happens. They were I was reading some stuff about why people go to the emergency room. What drug sends people to the emergency room the most? Did you hear that podcast? I didn't think. So what drug you think is number one? Alcohol? Yep? Yeah, forty damn it. You might have to go back and listen to the podcast it with justin what do you know
what anyone that is from uh this last week? Two ago, two weeks too, podcasts ago? Maybe, Okay, I don't think it wasn't it wasn't one just we just did on Friday. It wasn't that one. But no, it was like forty four, forty six, forty eight percent. Yeah it was alcohol. Yeah. And the next one heroin. It might have been at like twelve percent. Yeah. And then the third one I think was marijuana. Marijuana, Yeah, really getting out of town yep? Wow, yeah, I mean the natch the from the earth, from the
earth, like it don't it's not it's not bad, it's not. It's good for you. Yeah, go go smoke that stuff that just grows from the earth. That's gonna be different. Jeez o, Pete, you're sneezing this morning. I got like hot throat h So yeah, but the stuff now though, they do a lot of stuff to it, so you're thinking, oh man, it's natural, like you got You should have stopped saying that, like twenty years ago. Yeah, yep, for real. But
anyway, you can do whatever you want in your life. But for me, my life is so much better not smoking weed, not trying to do meth on the weekend, heroin on the week not drinking. You know, I took opiates for when I had stomach pain that almost got out of control. But I realized it and I checked myself and I started writing it down. But I took precautions. I worked with my doctor. She would only
give me a week script at a time. And I mean, I still had some stomach pain not too long ago, I remember, But you know, it's it's about working with the people and talking and communicating, you know, with your doctors about it. And then I wasn't running around trying to buy stuff on the streets or anything like that. But some people would say, oh, Corey, look at you. You're just talking about being in recovery, but then using the stuff and de to Dor and you just said
I spoke weed from my dear to Dor. I know I'm talking in circles, but I actually had something removed from my body. So yeah, like I was in a lot of pain. Yeah, and I'm not a fan of pain. Well that's what I said about my back of my Marijuona. Yeah, I know, but again I said, people can do whatever they want, so but for me, it worked out better though, to just not do stuff and to just be present in life. And I maybe it's
because I had been gone for so long. You know. There's a song by Ben Howard keep your Head Up, I believe where he's talking about seeing his friend and his friend looking in his eyes and he had told his friend he had been gone a while, and he's like, yeah, I know, you know, but that's what I kind of feel. Like I had been gone for so long I wasn't present, and now to be present too, you know, to have you, you know, a beautiful wife of my life and a baby on the way. You know, like I'm going
to be present for all that. That is cool as ship and we have to go through hell. Yep, we did, and our stories are similar but very different. But to be where we're at now and to appreciate a morning where you wake up you know, it's it's it's amazing and actually have plans for the future. Yeah, you know, it's it's an amazing thing and something I never had, you know. And past five years it's been work. You know, a lot of people don't like the word work.
I usually don't, but it's fun work, it's good work. You're working on yourself. It's the best kind of work that you can do. So just do that, and you know, try to leave up leave it up to me to get into the arguments of other people while recovery that recovery and blah blah blah. It's not really even an argument. It's more of like
I want clear direction, you know. And like I said earlier, there's so many people throwing out different things, and well they said this, this is what they say, and it'll be good to hear it from people who are at the state level, you know, teaching this training. And if they have this is why we do this, And I will raise my hand and say why. And if there's no explanation, I will take a note and then when I go by to talk to Gretch. That's why I call
her Gretch. I mean Gretch, go way back, say hey, Gretch, is what I got. That's what we need to change. And then let's talk about gambling. Oh that we don't even have enough time talking about that, right in addiction. So, yeah, don't bet on the super Bowl. See how pissed off the state gets. If you really if you really want to piss people off, you know, I say, don't do crimes, especially people like I don't like the cops. Well, don't come
in any crimes. Yeah, we'll do away with them. And then don't gamble. Don't bet on tonight's game. Still get so much money on that and all these other places, you know, get billions. I can't remember the number I heard the other day. It was like it was over one hundred billion dollars. And we tell people they can't go to sober living, which is like six hundred bucks a month because we don't have enough money. Shut the f up. We got homeless people living in the woods. Yeah,
we don't have enough money. Again, back to my circle around to the government doesn't care about you, So vote Winfield governor. I'm telling me somebody old Sarah Bush told me. She's like, I'd vote for you for governor. Wow. I know. She's like, you get stuff done. I'm like, yes, I would. Yeah, it's coming soon. I just need sixty thousand signatures. So my mom, Marnie, I wonder how old I have to be. We'll get baby Parker to sign it. Tyrone's
on board. I know that, so you know I make Justin mich I mean, we get about ten people start your mom, I don't know. Well, I'm gonna get to that leader. Just email it Tommy, like three weeks there. I'm like, Emmy, are you going to sign that? Well? You know, I was thinking, Ah. I love my mother in law though I don't think she likes me, but she loves you. Anyway. I have to go get on the road. But enjoy the game. Hopefully enjoy this podcast. Some of the stuff I say is absolutely
serious, some of it is absolutely not. You got to decipher through the rest. But appreciate you listening. Share it with your friends. Two seventeen recovery dot Com. If you need more info, if you need help, you need a recovery coach, hit us up. Watch the videos. Justin has new clone commercial out called Fabulous, And if you haven't seen Mitch's Bear commercial, that one is a take on Blue by d Chanelle which they spell
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