This is the two seventeen Recovery podcast with Corey Winfield. You know they did me wrong. They didn't be dirty. Oh, let made me drink. But I'm not a baby. I'm not a kid. And co Holt Marnie Winfield. Yeah, you can be pretty sure that the decision that you made was the right. One guy kind of paved the way for what was supposed to happen. I feel. It is the eleventh of August to twenty twenty three. My name is Correy Winfield. My name's Marnie Winfield. This is
the two seventeen cover podcast, live from Seattle. But we're not even live. We're recorded. But that's fine because we're live when we're doing it right right. Yes, it's very confusing people ask us often is your podcast live? Yeah, kind of, but the most part. Yeah, but nobody would be tuning in right now. It's coming to you sort of live eight forty on the West Coast, so eleven forty. Yeah, tune in eleven forty on Friday and make sure you're listening. At nobody's gonna do that.
You're to get the podcast. But yeah, we're in seeing and it's been a minute since we've talked last. Since then, we've been on so many adventures. I'm glad to say that I'm still alive. Yes, I'm not died yet. No, you have this look in your eye already you're still going strong. Yeah, this looks she's like, I'm gonna get you. Got one more day. No, No, he's doing great. It's horrible,
but we get to that in justest a minute. We have done so many fun things too, And let's start with we last Okay, so we went to tour the stadium. Do we talk about that already? No? Not even it's last time we checked in. It was Monday, it was we did had just told him about the virtual Wings over Washington and then the okay, so yeah, so let's rewind back to Tuesday. We went to Lumen Stadium, Yes, lumin Field. I still don't know which one.
I say is that it's field. I'm pretty sure field where the Seattle Seahawks play. They play football there. They had a game last night, but we're not talking about that. It was about tuesday. We went on a tour and it wasn't bad. It was twenty five bucks per person. I think that's a reasonable price. It's like an hour and a half long,
and we got to see the stadium some really cool stuff. We got to go in the press box, and I thought it was really funny because the lady when she was talking about because I asked her, I was like, we're just you know, day night football do their thing. And they're like, oh, that's in the other room. Because we went to like the radio room or the journalists, like the media the newspaper people sit the library.
She called it yeah because her body has been quiet in there. And so then we went to where Monday night football and all the broadcasting stuff does, and she's like, and here's where Joe Buck and Troy Aikins, that's
not his name sits. But when I listened to the Ticket Out of Dallas favorite radio station in the world, they will have guests on or whatever, and sometimes they're fake and they always call them, Yeah, Troy Aikins, He's just did because they're like what people in the South column sort of achman Troy Aikins, you know, like just I don't have a hard time with that last name was So she said that, I kind of like inside like had like a little ticket moment. I'm like, oh, like, that's
what they call him, and then another guy asked a question. She was like, okay, so that's where Troy Aikman sits. And she's like, oh, yep, that's where Troy Aikman sits. And I was like she had a hard time with an even Troy Akins sounds so much better. But it was pretty cool. We got to go to the twelfth Man spot. Yep, like this is where they were used to flag. No. I did not know that the twelve thing that no no player has number twelve.
Yeah, I did not know that. That's why Tom Brady wouldn't play there, not really, but he probably They probably changed it for him because he was the greatest of all time. I'm just saying, no Man crushed here. So then we went, oh, should we talk about the ride there first? A little bit scary because we talked about scary rides already. The
guy almost plowing over that guy. So are you gonna incorporate this into like your top five moments of this trip or okay, we're gonna do top five moments in like bottom five moments or because we didn't want to be negative with it, but it's not so favorite moments. Yeah, Well, this kind of is on the same note here is that that was kind of like my one of my bottom ish things with the trip is that the ubers were like
kind of not the most comfortable situations in the world. I mean, like the rides themselves, and it kind of expensive, you know, to get like five miles away. But it's not even like I'm not willing to walk five miles, Like that's not even the thing. It's like it would be five miles. That felt like thirty miles is the problem. Yeah, so there are five miles is equivalent to like wearing on your body thirty miles pretty
much. Yeah, and it's not doable, just not doable. Like I could walk five miles around a track probably now can you walk five miles up a hill around the track? And then you don't know where you are because there's so many levels, So you get lost when you're literally like four hundred feet away from something, but it's like not four hundred feet away of steps, it's like forward moving steps. It's like on a different level of the planet, and you don't know and you can't see it where you're going,
and so it's just you just got really frustrated. I wanted to curse pizza. Oh my gosh. He was so it was he was so irritated because it was it's like a maze and it's not a fun game to play when you just walked eighty thousand miles up a hill carrying food and water for everybody on the planet, and then you're like okay, and you look at your
phone and it's like, okay, it's just around this corner. And then you go around the corner and there's a wall and you're like, okay, so we're going up the hill or down the hill, Like what what level
of this hill is this place at? Like I mean, it's like you don't want to commit, like like I think it's down the steps, but you don't know, but you hate to go down the steps if it's really not, so you keep going down the ramp and then you end up on another street that doesn't have a way to get down to the level that you need to be on. It was kind of like a trap foot trapped. Yeah. I thought that sounds like she's doing it now, she's got her
got her plan. It's come and do that. Fuition or whatever that word is, I can't say fruition. Yeah, no, it's not it is. It is how I'm going. Let's go to the gum wall. Like, yeah, let's go to the gum wall. We did, We did see the gum Wall. Weird, but that was a whole different day. So Tuesday, though, let's go back there and then we'll get into the rest. So Tuesday we go to lumen Field. That was cool. The
the uber driver was awkward. She was from Pakistan, believe, and we get in and she starts like bumping this country music and the guy's like talking about drinking beer, you know, just a regular old country song. And You're like, this music is weird, and I'm like, yeah, I know. But she was stereotyping us. You know, this happens too. I know what happens to black people, tyveryone tells me it happens to them all the time, you know, where people were spill stereotype them, and
people stereotype white people too, you know. And that's what she was doing, you know, Like she's looked at my picture on the uber thing, the Michigan driver's license no maybe or whatever picture I had on my stupid uber thing, and just thought, oh, this white guy fat probably drinks beer and likes country music. Let's turn out to them from music Little you know him in Recovery and I hate country music, But I Sannathan to her.
I just wanted her to focus on driving because she was having a real hard time. I get it because I used to do uber. Yeah, you don't always take the route that it tells you. But she kept passing route after route that was suggested, and I'm like, okay, and she's not making up time. We're actually losing time. So I was like, okay, well, we gotta make it there. And it was we're supposed to
be there half hour before and it was like a quarter tel. I'm like, oh shit, Like, are we gonna make this because we got burned almost on them on the way out here. Yeah, on something like that. So it's like, okay, well, kind of getting nervous, and then she pulls up. Even though it tells her where the left to go and it says lumin Stadium, lumin Field whatever. She rolls up to the baseball stadium, which is called like I don't know something else. I don't
know either. But they were I mean, they were very they were there right next to each other, so it worked out all right, but I'm like, this isn't that where we're going. It's a good mile down the road. But because the stadium is so big, yeah, she just like rolls up in there like it doesn't even say drop your person off here. She's just like, oh, well, here's something big and looks like there's
athletes or something, so this is it. We're like no, no, no, no, and she's like what since she like halfway goes out into the road like she's gonna make it, turning like meanwhile, there's construction going on. This construction guy was looking like this lady's gonna hit me. And you kept telling her no because it looked like she was gonna make it. You ei it did, and You're like, no, go down that rolley? What what do you do that? You know? And I'm like I
don't know what's going on here. And I just figured if I was talking to her that would really confuse her. I should put my hand in front of her face. She's like just because like making this like turn around motion, and you're like, no, down that alley. Oh, And then construction guy was like, this lad's gonna hit me. I saw him. He was like, I gotta watch this lady because this is not gonna end
well, so she rolls past him. He jumps out of the way at last minute falls down like this hole and we didn't have time to help him because we're late for to her, you know. So we got up there, we got out, and everything happened. So I got up me. Some people know hurt, nobody fallen a hoole made it through security, which is always nice. And the lady who took us around the tour she was really nice too, and it was a good time. After that, where did we go? Do we go walk some more and we come back?
We went to beneath the streets? Oh no, no, we went to the space Needle. No, we had dropped off at the State Space Needle. Oh, we did beneath the streets. After Limonfield, we walked too, So we did to the walking. Yeah, I guess we did, didn't we? Yeah? Yeah, so we did do more walking. That's why I blocked it out of my memory. That's where your brain will do that if you've been through traumatic experiences sometimes, so I'll just block it out.
Yeah, this was called it was actually the under there's a couple different I actually I think there's only two different agencies that rent the space is on the underground of Seattle, which we can go into the whole thing. It's really interesting. This whole city was burned to the ground at one point in history, and so it was rebuilt. They built it up higher because of the sea level. Blah blah blah. That's that's the short and dirty version. Anyhow, most of it was filled in, the majority of it,
like ninety five percent of all of that was filled in. But there's still some spaces that still exist. Some of them are modeled for use, but not many. And so for whatever reason, these two companies like kind of like a historical society sort of but leases the space underneath the places the buildings that has not been either filled in or remodeled. That's just like in kind of it's the most I guess original version that could, which means like nothing
was done really. I mean, it wasn't filled in, but it wasn't fixed, but it wasn't but it's still secure to be like, so it's not going to collapse. And they rent that out to these agencies and then tourists or what have you can go and walk through and hear the story of of the city, so that was very cool, the underground tour. And then there was another agent or another place that's called Beneath the Streets. Yeah. I liked that. Yeah, And then we went to eat and then
we came home. I don't remember, no, No, Then we went to Wasn't the same day? Was it? Yeah? Because it was like my day, wasn't. How do we do Beneath the Streets on my day? That was crazy because then we went to this other It was like a film festival type thing where they're showing like independent little sketches and films and videos, and it was pretty cool. At first, it was awkward as shit. We got the VIP passes because we're vamp people, so we're in the
VIP, which doesn't mean anything except we had good seats sort of. People kept walking in front of us the whole time. Again kind of annoying. But when we got there, we're the only ones there. I started talking to this guy take's pictures or something, and I don't know, it was
just awkward. It was it was like at a bar, so like it it was like a scene that we probably would have been into had we been drinking or smoking weed, you know, back in the day, which made us feel kind of like not really feel uncomfortable here, not ours, not what we do anymore. And then we see this lady or you actually pointed out you saw a little merch table and it had or can on it, same little boxes we had back in Michigan, and you're like, wait what.
I went over there and we started talking to this woman and I'm hoping and she said she would, but I don't want to have her on the podcast. Her name's Millie Mility Jigamon or something that's maybe you can do better with that. It's quite the name. Wow, that is a She started the Fentanyl United Crisis Coalition, which is fu c C Fentanyale United Crisis Coalition, that's what the agency is called. And she said she started, and it's Millie jigam In. Yep. She's a founder CEO and she has a
she lost a child to us old twenty years old. But her message was really really amazing. She comes from a very real place and a very real perspective. Her messaging is not anywhere close to being like, you know, stop using drugs or drugs are bad. It's more like awareness overdose awareness more
than anything else. And harm reduction, and you know, I think she's kind of come to terms with the fact that she recognizes that people are going to do what people are going to do, and she's not trying to judge anybody's lifestyle or decisions or choices, but that most of you know how I don't know percentages, but most overdoses are accidental. Very rarely do people overdose
on purpose. It does happen, it's that is a real thing too, but very more often than not, it's there was no intention to actually die. It was just use that they're unaware of what's in it, or they took too much or a handful of things that could go wrong. And her message was very much, you know, be ready, be prepared to save somebody's life if you need to, Like this is how you this is something that is out there, and if people are actively using drugs, be prepared
to save their life if necessary. Yeah, And it was it was interesting message, and I guess she knew her audience, and I don't know if her message changes through the audience, but the people were there, I would say ninety nine percent of them were on something. Yeah, And the only reason that it was one hundred percent because me, you and maybe this Midley lady were there. I mean, everybody was. I think even the guy
from the from the Department of Health and Human Services. Yeah, it was st Oh he was some there was something going on and like he I brought up to him about is in marijuana? Yeah, and he was like when heard that? Which is crazy because then fast forward to Thursday night, We're at the comedy club and the comedians up there like, yeah, I just had some weed, you know, some fentanoline and or whatever, and yeah he said fenolis push. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, So how
does the guy from the state not ever heard of this? We get comedians. I mean, it's it's so common that comedians are making jokes about it, you know. So it's like, m wake up, Washington, you're on notice. Who was that? Or is it who was putting people on notice? It was on the Daily Show? Was it the Late Night Guy?
Anyway, I stole that from him. So whatever it was. It was a good time though, and it turned out to be kind of fun and interesting in watching the films and stuff that people make, and you know, I'm thinking to myself, like, there's some videos I made that could have put in there and it would have been just fine. Yeah, but we left at intermission because it was after nine and that means it's after midnight and we still had to walk home. So I was like, well,
we're going to get to get in. I got to talk to the dude that put it on. I was like, hey, man, thanks for doing what you do for people who are starting out in the Are you tell him it was an r VIP bag. We got some popcorn, got a couple of flasks. We got flasks in our VIP bag. We're like, yeah, thanks, but no thanks. He said, did you get the flasks? We're like, do you not hear the fact that we just said
we are people in recovery? But he didn't understand. Yeah, And that's back to the Millie lady and in her audience, you know, like that was clear her message because she had went up there be like don't do drugs. Drugs you know you guys are would be like off stage, don't come back. But she said, look, I'm not saying don't do drugs. I'm saying do drugs safe. You know, and like people I guess they do like, oh, give her a finger snaps because they don't lap anymore
or something. I don't so behind. Other times I clap because that's what I do. I don't cancel people. I just don't like them and don't mess with them anymore. Like I don't know, like this whole scene nowadays, I'm not hipped too, but there's like, yeah, give us some snaps, give us some snaps. And I think that was a very good approach for that, because if you would have went there, like I said, with the Corey Winfield method of everybody, put your drugs down, stop
doing them, let's make people laugh, it probably wouldn't have worked. But the fact that she had that approach, you know, it's that audience and they were all like, yeah, do drugs safe, you know, and she's like, test your stuff and do this and do that, and it was just a different message. But at the same time, it was a message of safety and definitely of like harm reduction, because we don't want people
to dying. And you know, the old school people are like, well they shouldn't be doing drugs, and well, that's not how it works, man, And if you have a loved one out there, you don't know what they're gonna do. I don't know what I'm gonna do at the end of today, you know, like you just never know. So it's better
to have them be safe and be educated on what's going on. And yeah, it really makes it really kind of made me think about like we're very biased in our thoughts and feelings about drug and alcohol, right because we know what it's capable belove in or know we know what how it can just take you over. Lucky to be alive, Lucky to be alive. Absolutely, Now that does not mean that there's not people out there that do partake in their drugs and alcohol in a normal way, right, Like they go to
a bachelor party in Vegas and they do cocaine or whatever. But they don't go home and buy cocaine from They don't got a coke dealer at home. You know, they don't even ever do it. They just happen to partake in that activity at that time. And there are people like that. Those are people that do that, and that's you know, that's fine, that's their own decisions. And weed is very big here. Well, it wasn't
that crowd at least, which has never been my thing. And so, like I said, I mean it's it's hard for me to wrap my head around that whole the whole concept of that person as me is from coming from myself, right, is like that being a message that would be like any sort of that I could absorb and be like, okay, like this is where I'm at. I just need to I just need to learn how to use it safely. That was not something I could do. I couldn't because
I am an alcoholic and an addict. And so that being said, that is not meaning. That's not meaning that those people don't need to hear that message and that it's not important, because it it is. It really is. Yeah, I thought so. I thought it was very very cool the way she did that, you know, and its like we think our strategy is a little bit, but I mean, it's what crowd you're talking to, and that's her message is and kind of she puts on a T shirt,
which is very awesome. It's fucc fentnol. So it's clear her message is against that and not hey be clean and sober, Hey don't drink, k don't do drugs. It's no, no, no, don't do that one. Make sure you're not dying from that one. And and that's a that's a very strong message that you know, I hope, I hope for the best, and I hope you know, success happens for and she can say a lot of lives and at least educate people to talk about it.
You know, do you do you remember the other girl it was there that we spoke with briefly and she was basically saying that she was saying that heroin doesn't even exist anymore on the streets. Yeah, that almost everything is fannel or something else, that it's not heroin. Yeah, yep, that's what she said, at least here, but it's it's drugs man. They're are aware. But we'll have a million on the podcast. You have to be
on that with with this on here. So from there, you know, like I said, it was good night, walked back home, went bad. Then when did we go to the space Needle? Was it the next day or do we already talk about the space Needle? I think it was the next day or was this video before? I don't know. It's a big border, hills and sweat, like where was it the gum wall when we walked back from I don't think that was the same day as my day I think that that's confused because we went to the Okay, that was the
Okay, let's talk about the aquarium, all right. First of all, let's talk about a quariums in general. Don't go to them. It's time. That's not true. Let the school take the kids. There's a reason why you send to your kids to school, so that they can take them out field trips. That way, you don't have to because they're whoa, Marty, here's your mouth open, like whoa. We did not just say that just speaking Corey Windfield is ms over here. I'm just saying there was
so many other people's kids there it was driving me nuts. Other people's kids, man, I just there when you've got a bunches of them and oodles and oodles of them. It's not even school time. You tell me what's going on. Boys and Girls Club was there every every I'm not gonna lie. It was not a good experience. That does not mean I'm sure it's not a great aquarium. It is and it's not. I don't know if you can even say, like if you've been to one, you've been to
them all. I've been to a lot of aquariums in my life and it's it's I bet you if there was half the amount of people slash children in the in the space, it would have been more enjoyable because like literally you walk in and it was lunchtime and there was children. Like the whole carpet was just full of kids, like sitting like cross legged, eating their bag sandwiches or standing right in your way with sandwich all their face. It's there
was children everywhere, and nothing is kids. It was just like there was so it was everything. Then there's the people, the counselors or camp counselors or whatever, like all yelling at the children trying to like round them up, and so it was not an enjoyable time at all. It was like kind of like, let's get through this as best we can and say we did it. I liked the sea otters. They had like two seatters and they were cleaning the cage. They moved on this other thing. They were
so cute. Yeah, it just was not I wouldn't recommend it. I would say just skip that and go do something else, because yeah, it wasn't that that great. And then we walked all the way across town up about sixteen hills equivalent to eighteen point six miles into the Mathema phone to the art museum. Yes, so we walked to this art museum, this hoity toity pristine art museum. I'm drenched and just sweat from everywhere, and I get there. My back's hurt, and I mean, it's just like,
come on, man, like this is crazy. And we go through that, and then that's where we're gonna go find the pizza place. Let's find this pizza place and let me see it was cool though, it was all right. Yeah, I enjoyed that, you know, it's all right within the pizza place, like that excursion was. It was totally like just like imagine you're just standing there in line for something this somebody just comes up and hit you in the back of the head with a bat. That is the
equivalent of searching for this pizza place. Like if you give me options, I'm like, I don't know which one i'd runner do. Screw it. But it was hell man, And then we're just like, effort, let's go home. We ran through the gum wall by accidents pretty much like, yeah, let's get some pictures. That's cute. Let's let's get out of here. And we were walking home and I was like, man, I think I said on the way home, and yet maybe I didn't it.
It's like all I need to do is just be eating a fish sandwich right now, because like here's everything I hate. Hate, being hot, the other people's kids, my back hurts, yeah, and some there was like four or five other things. It was like everything I hate it, I might you might as well just give me a fish fish sandwich. I'll be good to really complete the trifecta, just the stuff I hate. It was wonderful time to be hate non stuff. Yeah. So I started to bumm
me out seat. I don't but it was horrible. Then we ended up the next day, I think, going to the comedy show and we went to someplace elsewhere. Was that at yesterday? Was it just eating the comedy show? We stayed we were in the room for most of the day. Yeah, it's beautiful. A body needed to rest. We're going to go to the Museum of Pop Culture, but we didn't. We're doing that today.
Yeah, Yeah, so it was. It was weird. So the top bottom five things like the Hills for me is definitely a bottom number one. The museum was not fun. That was probably the bottom number two. The bottom of three would be the uber drivers that just we got honked at. It's just been scary. We didn't meet the guy from China on the way to dinner last night, on the way to the comedy show, wasn't it. I thought he took us to dinner, did he? Oh? Maybe, No, he took us to comedy show. Yeah, see parked
there and we got out across the street. But yeah, yeah, that guy was from China. He was He was pretty interesting and it was pretty fun talking with him. Yeah, telling us his story a little bit lumin filled for me. That tour was pretty fun. Going to you know, the Space Needle was pretty cool. The comedy show last night. There were some good comedians up there. But the best part of that was like looking over at you and watching you smile and laugh. That was that was.
That was so fun, just to see you laugh and being so cute. That was. That was awesome. I was worth every minute of it. Even though they're picking on me, like clapping, They're like any ugly guys here. So I started clapping a little bit, but half ass laps. So the one guy started kind of ripping into me, and then the other guy was asking me because something came up on my phone I had to pay
attention to. And he's like, we were in the front, like one of the front rows, and Corey's on his phone texting was very apparent, apparent everyone behind us is seeing him, just not paying attention. Yeah, because this guy, he wasn't funny. I just it was better than like just walking out. He's just talking about how he was gay and how already thought he was gay, he tried being gay. And then he asked me if I watched gay porn and I was like no, and he's like why
not. I was like, I don't know. Never crossed my mind, man, Like why I don't know, Like I'm sure how to answer that? Dude, like, you're not funny? Can I tell some jokes for you? Let me give me your pen real quick, let me write something for you. So I should have said, well, I've enjoyed it. I thought it was funny. Guy wasn't. But yeah, but other than that, though, the poncho guy, he was really funny. Yeah, some really funny lines. But yeah, so that was really a good time.
Like I said, just seeing you laugh. And I think I liked it because they're like, they're not famous people, and they all have like other things that they do. You know, this is probably just like a side thing that they they enjoyed to do. I mean we paid next to nothing to go. It was not even and I think our bar tab if you want to college was six dollars coffee. Coffee is in a pop. Yeah, that's crazy. So I mean it's not like they're raking it in.
And they were all like around and available afterwards if he wanted to talk to him or whatever. So I mean I kind of did like acknowledgement head non kind of thing like good job or whatever. But so the guy that said, hey, before you have sex with him again, make sure he wasn't born. No, No, the one, the guy with the long hair with the glasses that looks kind of funky, Yeah it was. We They were all just wearing like crazy, goofy, like regular street clothes.
Like you would not been able to tell if you lined everybody up and was like, who are the people that are going to be on stage night? You would not pick. You would not know who to pick. But I mean, guess they do it because they like it. So that's why I really enjoyed it. That's the kind of like the kind of thing I really
like. I was wondering too, if they have bets with each other, because like I was thinking, like the whole time, like, man, this would be funny if we got Justin and Adam and Mitch on stage and we like all gave each other a ship to say, kind of like the
two seventeen game. You know, we're the Asian guy he had to like shave his head, but not all the way like just here aunt here, an here, aunt, Like you gotta shave your head and make up a story about it, or you gotta talk about hooking up old women because that would be fun and just get up there and just make shit up, just tell stories that are funny. Yeah, we should do that. Yeah, that's it was. That was on one of my top things that we did.
I'm not going to veer towards that. I think we covered enough of the negative stuff. My biggest plus for this trip would be the views in general. We I mean, I know, for you guys know from the first podcast if you didn't hear that we are our original room did not have the view that we have for the duration of the trip. But it is the most breathtaking view of like the city, the Bay. It's amazing.
And then that combined with what we've seen from this, you know, the space Needle and even just driving back from the comedy club last night and the Uber, I was like, this is gorgeous. It's a beautiful skyline for sure. Yeah. So that's like one of the total pluses that I think. And then we've been able to try a couple different restaurants and not all have been a plus. Is kind of been like circumstantial, like this is
where you're at, what's near here kind of deal. Yeah, and so but we we worked with what we got and then you know, plus we don't know where you are. The more options you have, the more difficult is to like look up the best whatever in Seattle, and then you end up with like forty five places and you're like, well, you know, they're not all the best, and what is one person's best means and other person's not best? Obviously, because the piece of place we finally ended up
making it too yesterday was a flap. Yeah that was two days ago. Two days ago. Yeah it was not good, was it? Yes? It was two days ago. Yeah, you're right. I had the name of it, but just through the street receded away because I was gonna rate them on Google, and I thought, that's just not nice because the pizza was it was not cooked like it was was it bambinos or something like that.
It was horrible. It's just horrible. It's like you want to box and we're like no, like clearly, like the topics were like picked off, like she could tell we didn't like it. I mean it was it was not good. So that just kind of led me to believe like, Okay, well, see I don't They're not really known for their pizza.
They're known for fish and stuff, so they just don't cook pizza. Well yeah, so, but we haven't had a couple of different We had some Thai food at a restaurant that was interesting, that was good, and then we had Mediterranean before we went on our tour. Underneath the streets, we saw there was a couple homeless people that definitely had and this is my view,
there was a radio broadcaster professional opinion they had mental problems. Like they didn't look like they were on drugs, they didn't look like they were drunk. They just look like they had mental problems. Was that caused by the drugs or alcohol? I don't know, but it just kind of made me sad, like there's a society we just give up on these people. But I mean, you can't really tackle them and take them away. Come to take you away. We're coming to take you away. I can't really do
that to them, can't we? You know, they would be safer, I'm sure, But no, there's I mean, as as somebody who does have some formal education on mental illness, I can tell you that there was definitely some some individuals that were suffering from schizophrenia, maybe bipolar, but uh, yeah, it was pretty sad. And like you said, whether there is any of that is substance related, very well, could be, but
probably a lot of them not so much. Yeah, it's like, where's their Well, the one older blacke gentleman that was talking to everybody on the the tour that we were on as we were walking the streets, like, I mean, I wouldn't say where's his mom and dad because they're probably not on the earth, no war, But the one lady that was sitting there like yelling at people before the tour, She's just sitting in the park on the concrete, just yelling. And this is an intermittently between her talking,
she's talking to herself as well at the same time. So lots of mental I mean serious mental health. I'm not really sure how that's handled. It's sad to see. You know, there was a one gentleman that was literally walking down the street with his pants at his ankles, and I don't Yeah, he had no idea, Like that's where it's like a safety thing, you know what I mean, that's where my concern is. It's like not so much that he's going to harm anybody else, but like he could walk
in front of a car easy. I mean, he had no real I don't even know if he knew where he was. Should we have like stops and hey, buddy, let's get them pants up. No, absolutely, I mean that's not I wouldn't feel comfortable doing that, you know, because they're unpredicted, that's unpredictable and you don't know, you know, he needs help, absolutely, But you would think that the city and maybe they do.
Maybe they do kind of redirect them towards. Maybe there's shelters and things that can they can decide if people need to be you know, hospitalized or if that's a thing. I don't know. And a lot maybe a lot of those people are not willing, you know, I don't know, but it's a sad thing to see. And one lady was like putting like handfuls
of and it was baby powder. I saw it. It was for real, like out of the little squirt thing with the holes at the top, like put baby powder like in her hand and then all over her face. Powder, baby baby powder, baby powder, like squirt it in her hand, a big thing in her hand, and then put it all over her face. The lady that had the headphones on. Yeah, and then one lady had a half gallon of milk just chilling in the sun and like a
half bag of ramen noodles open with like a blanket over her face. Lane on the bench. Yeah. It's just really like could we come out and say, look, we need to build a big shed. These people need to go there, and we need to help them there, you know, like not just throwing in a shed and locked the door. But like, is it okay to take these people somewhere because it has to be better than what they're living right now? Right Well, the thing is too is a
lot of the people that have those male health issues. I mean, medications can help them be able to function, but you know, they need to be assessed, they need to make sure they're you know, they're clean if they are using anything. But those people look like they had not a penny to their name, so I mean, it's not even like they were any sort of kind of functional addict. I don't even know if they could even They were not even even begging. No, Like that's the crazy part.
I don't know. It was just weird. Yeah, anyway, that's Seattle and the nutshell, but it was. It was a pretty good city, though. I like it. I don't think I can move here the time being three hours behind, and then, you know, I couldn't even imagine in four hours behind when the time changes, like like that's crazy, man, three hours behind, because what time is it now here, I don't know, nine twenty, so it's twelve, and you think, oh,
okay, that's not too bad. But the next thing, you know, you look up and it's five o'clock there and you're like, oh, the day is just kind of wrapping around to the Nope, everything's done. People are gone home, you know, and we've noticed that a lot of especially around where we're staying, a lot of the places they do close early six seven o'clock, and I think people here go to bed earlier. Yeah, I don't think they're out late. It's weird us. You're going for lunch
and or even breakfast and there's a baseball game on. You're like, oh, that's the game from last night, and you're like, no, no, nope, that's the game from right now. What's happening in New York? And it's just like wait what? Huh. It's just very, very confusing, and I can't wait to get back to the Eastern time zone where it's normal. I know, I'm as home. If you grew up here,
I guess it wouldn't be that bad. But when you are like, wait a minute, like we got to get on the all the same time, it's like all the cool people in the country, it's like wait what. And the Central time zone is probably one of my favorites because you don't have to wait as long, you know, for your TV shows to come on, for your football to come on. Really, that's why you decide that a whole entire living in an entire time zone would be beneficial because you
could base your TV time on it. Yeah, wow, Ball was on it new not one that's ridiculous. It's great. I lived in like Arkansas and Texas or whatever. Like, I wasn't that far off of the time zone, so it really was like not that much of a thing, except all my shows came on at a little earlier, and okay, I didn't stay light is long, but that's fine because Survivor came out at seven eight. But now we don't even watch TV like that anymore, so probably wouldn't
matter. But yeah, so thanks for listening. We'll do another whole episode on time zones later, but I just wanted to throw them in there as one more thing about Seattle that was kind of not off putting, but just weird. So thanks for tuning in. We're gonna post pictures and some videos and stuff too of our trip. It took some really great pictures. Yeah, and overall it was a really good time. It really was. Just be prepared if you're ever gonna come to Seattle. There's cool a people here.
Yeah, you're gonna want to stay on the waterfront, but just keep in mind there's hills her time, so look up where you're gonna stay and make sure all this stuff is right down the street, not up the street, down the street, all right, Thanks for listening. Thanks everybody, have a good night. Thanks for listening to the two seventeen Recovery podcast. When a bunch of free from two seventeen Recovery, go to the app on the website two seventeen recovery dot com