Kerry Condon

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and gives me my best butt ever heading to the new year feeling your personal best shop active by abercrombie in the app online and in stores welcome to 20 questions on deadline i'm antonia blythe senior awards editor My guest this week is Kerry Condon, who is currently Oscar nominated for her role in the film The Banshees of Inner Sheeran. In the film written and directed by Martin McDonagh, Condon plays Siobhan.

the sister to Colin Farrell's naive, animal-loving character, Padraic. This episode is also featured in print in our Awards Line magazine, as a piece entitled On My Screen. Kerry Condon, welcome to 20 Questions on Deadline. Thank you, thank you. So the last time we met, we were chatting a bit about... you preferring animals to people and uh you know as you put it that seems fairly standard um and i have to agree um but i feel like

The tiny donkey in Banshees was kind of its breakout superstar. Everyone is so obsessed with the tiny donkey. What was it actually like doing those scenes? with you and Colin Farrell in the kitchen and the animals wandering around. Well, we would have done the scene without the animals first and done all the coverage, like the close ups and all that stuff. And the animals then would only have come in at the end when we've done all our own work. And then.

Obviously, when the animal would come in, like little Jenny would come in, she had a little friend who would come in with her. There would have been two donkeys because she had the other little friend to kind of keep her calm and stuff.

and and keep her confident so when they'd come in we all had to be extremely quiet and extremely gentle and then we would just roll and you'd have to be kind of do it kind of you know perfectly because you just don't know which way it's going to go with Jenny and what she's going to do so we just had to be ready for anything i mean i i was very used to it because i did a show a few years ago it's actually ages ago now but called lock and it was all about horse race and it was on hbo and

David Milch wrote it, and it was Michael Mann. I was a jockey, so pretty a lot of my scenes were on horseback or with horses. So I just got very good at being around animals and acting. And if it changes, you just have to keep going. And basically the animal is kind of dictating how the scene's going to go. So I was just used to it. And I have horses. So, you know, I'm really good with animals. That's right, you've got a ranch haven't you?

Yeah, it's funny that the ranch makes it sounds like, you know, it's Dallas and I have a helicopter flying over my fields or something. I'm like, no, I've got an average farm up in Washington. Yeah, just a regular little... farm in washington and i only got it there recently um because it's something i've always wanted but i just didn't have you know financially i wasn't ready to commit to it and i didn't have um

I just wasn't ready. I hadn't found the place and I hadn't found someone to help me with it. So that's all and only recent in my life. And one of the horses from that show, Look, I adopted him at the end of it. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah.

He's my favorite. Well, I mean, I have two horses and I wouldn't say he's my favorite. They're both my favorite, but he's like the best little horse in the whole world. So many people have asked, couldn't they buy him off me because he's just the best little horse. But I was like, even if they offered me a million dollars.

wouldn't say them oh that's so sweet oh so you know i have to say i did hear when you got the oscar nomination congratulations ah thanks a million thank you Yeah, I heard that you got up at, well, obviously you were in California, I think, at the time, and you got up at 5am because it comes out at like 5.20 or something. Yes! And you went to Colin Farrell's house in your pyjamas and the two of you sat there and watched it together. Yeah, well, no, exactly. See, there we go.

Immediately, it's construed as, you know, we're pajama pals or whatever the hell, and we were alone. We were not alone. There was other people there. And, like, the bottom half was pajamas and the top half was... You know, I was dressed appropriately for 5am. But of course, you know, the minute Colin Farrell is in the sentence, everyone wants to, you know, link you to be hanging out with Colin in a romantic sense.

It was so sweet of him to offer for me to come over because I would have had the news by myself because I do live by myself. And to be honest with you, I was happy with getting the news by myself because... i didn't it could have been not good too you know and i had to kind of consider that and i did when he invited me i remember thinking Oh, Jesus, hang on, though. Like, do I want to share this with you? Like, do I want... What if it's bad for one of us?

Well, I did wonder that. Like, I wasn't even thinking about the romantic side of it. I was sort of laughing to myself because it was like, it's so high risk. I know. And you're sitting there.

I know. I did think that. I thought that. And just before it started, I did say to him, listen, if I don't get the nomination and you do... don't feel like you have to mute your celebration for me like it's all good i can handle it i you know i'll be fine so just just like good luck or whatever but i did have to think about it yeah because i just thought

might it be something I want to have privately, alone, but then of course, that'll be very me, you know, to be here in the dark by myself. You know, it's just like, come on, Kerry, just... Yeah, so I'm glad I went and got hugs and we cheered for everybody and it was great, yeah. It just sounds like the most charming...

charming way to listen to the nominations charming when you get nominated i doubt it's that charming if i didn't get nominated i would have been like a bull i swear to god you know i have to say i I really loved the character of Siobhan so much. She's just all pure integrity. At no point does she waver. from just being herself and being real. And you see that in these amazing scenes where such a great moment where she goes over to Brendan Gleeson's house.

And she's saying, what's up with you and my brother? You know, because they've had this sort of friendship to make up. And he says, oh, he's just a bit boring. I'm butchering the words. No, no, no, I know. And Siobhan just goes, boring? You're all fucking boring. Yeah. It's such... I love her so much. She's just like the perfect foil to these two men taking themselves so seriously. But then there's these really tender moments where, you know...

Barry Keegan's character is like, Dominic is declaring his love for her and she very kindly turns him down in such a soft, sweet, but honest way. And she's just wanting more for her life. And she's such a great character. And I understood, and correct me if I'm wrong, that because you and Martin McDonagh have worked together many times, that he wrote...

the character of Siobhan with you in mind. Yeah, that's what I found out too when it came about, when this all came out and he said that. I didn't know that when he... When he gave me the script, I didn't know that. I just knew that he wanted me to do it. But I didn't ask him, you know, Jesus, I wouldn't dream of asking him, like, did I inspire this? You know what I mean? I'm not that vain or whatever. But... But I can't take the credit that I'm that, like...

you know, that kind of a person or whatever, because I think Martin is just really good at writing women's characters because, you know, there's there's also the plays. If you read some of the Irish plays that he's written. The Irish women in those plays are so brilliantly written. There's a play, The Beauty Queen of Leen Anne, and it's two women. And one of them is a mother and a daughter.

And we all know the mother-daughter dynamic is a tricky one at the best of times. It's very complicated. And Martin wrote this in his early 20s. he didn't have any sisters and he certainly didn't have a girlfriend until like way later in his life so a part of me thinks Where the hell did you get the knowledge of what a 40-year-old woman and her mother are like? Like, how did you... That's weird. It's like genius level. Like, how do people like him...

How do they absorb? And I don't understand it. I know. I think it is just certain writers, like certain, like it's just talent, you know, it's like they just, they're just really good at it or something. Or maybe it's like this. I don't know. I dare not ask. Like, I feel like that's so private and I never really poke into like, when did you write this? And what were you thinking when you wrote this? I just, I always leave that be sort of a mysterious thing about Martin that I never really ask.

come about and i just take the script and go from there i feel like it's none of my business really and and also i find it quite difficult to articulate like how i act

You know, and so I imagine he finds it difficult to articulate like how you write. It's funny. I was talking to Andrea Risborough the other day about her film To Leslie and... I asked her something about how to describe how she prepares to play someone so different from who she is in her real life, you know. she's playing a texan alcoholic in this film and she just she just went yeah i i can't talk about that not

Not in a horrible way, but she just was like, that's something that's like a private process. I can't even, I can't even discuss it. It's difficult to articulate. Yeah. Yeah. And then also, of course, it's like. Well, I'm not going to tell everybody how I do it because, you know, I'm not giving that out for free. Yeah, you need to get paid to give a masterclass before you... Yeah, fuck that. She's right. I wouldn't be telling anyone. But... But yeah, and it's also just like, it's not, you know.

I've never been the kind of person who's more of a talker. Like, I always used to get kind of annoyed sometimes, you know, if you're rehearsing and somebody's talking, talking, talking. It's like, just do it. Can we just do it? Like, how much talking are we going to do about it? So, you know, I suppose everyone's different. I just don't know how it's hard to articulate it.

Yeah, I mean, it's really interesting when you say it's not your business, you just get the script and you do your piece of the work. It's an interesting thing to be handed someone else's imagined. work and just you know take it and and then be in charge of it in a way it's sort of a there's a weight to be carried there I feel like because it's his his baby I guess, but I mean, I didn't feel it like that because we've known each other for so long and this was like the fifth job. And also like...

Besides just the jobs that we'd done together, which also were very long periods of my life, like the second play, The Lieutenant of Inishmore, that was a year and a half, the first run. And then it was another six months, a few years later when we went to New York. So that's two years of my life. You know, there were long stints. But also, bar that, like...

Martin has been a friend of mine and so he has always been a supporter of me as an actress and always told me I was great and there was not a lot of people in my life. There was, I mean, very, I could count in one hand. I mean, maybe even less. Maybe I could count in Collum's hand with however many fingers he had. Like, there was just not a lot of people who said that to me. So...

I knew he thought I was good, so I didn't feel this weight of like, oh God, I'm not going to be good. Martin always said to me I was good and helped me in times that were difficult. So I just felt like I could do it. I mean, I obviously knew how to try and do it my best, but I didn't feel, oh God, I'm going to fuck this up. I mean, you know.

you have to have an element of self belief in this business or you're just not going to get anywhere, you know? Yeah. And especially as, as you say, you know, if you hadn't been getting that kind of feedback and support. that's weird I can only imagine it's it's incredibly tough to keep going because this business is so like you say you have to have self-belief you have to So to kind of pull that out of yourself when you're not getting it externally is a big deal. Yeah.

It is. And if there's a string of no's, you know, like, I mean, there was, you know, there would have been some years and I got up, I could count the auditions that I'd done. And, you know, you'd be looking to 10, 20 and there would have been no's. And I would have had to prepare for all of them and learn.

them and go up for them and there would have been big parts because I always get good auditions and stuff and you know it wouldn't have been an easy task and and they'd be all knows and you still have to be like well fuck them

You know, as opposed to, oh God, maybe if I lose, you know, you don't want to get into that LA narrative of like, you know, maybe I should lose 10 pounds or, or maybe I should get a nose job or maybe this, or maybe that, or maybe I should go to the gym. It's like, it's not that.

it's got nothing to do with that you know it's just something you have to learn at that moment and that's what you have to learn at that moment it's got nothing to do with what you look like or whatever you know I wish that all the actors and actresses in LA could hear you say that and know it to be true because I do feel like that it is such a slippery slope.

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I could talk about this all day. I love talking to you, but I also have to ask you some fun questions. Oh, go on. Okay. We'll see how fun they are till you say them. Go on. okay so it's for an article called on my screen and so a lot of it is sort of you know screen memories and and working on screen and and things that you love about stuff on screen so What was your first film lesson?

oh i suppose i mean a good one i learned it and i was also told it so it's it's kind of frequently come into my my mind and you know multiple times and it's a big one like You have to be prepared to make a fool of yourself. You just have to have no shame, basically.

to be a good actress. And then I always kind of knew it because, you know, you have to go big and then you can rein it back. But you have to have balls to go big because you might look like an aegis, but unless you go big... you're just this kind of you're holding back and it's like not you know so you have to be prepared to make a fool of yourself and not and be cool with it kind of and I remembered then it was Nick Nolte he told me a story about an acting class he did with Marilyn Brando. Wow.

Yeah, Nick was great for the advice. He gave me so many cool things. And he told me, oh, Marlon Brando was like, said nothing and just sat there in this chair and started to slowly like... put makeup on and change his outfit that he was wearing and basically like, you know, made himself look absolutely ridiculous with the makeup and the clothes that he was on and that was the lesson at the end of it when he was all done and he looked all crazy. He was like...

That's the lesson you need to learn. You have to not be afraid of making a complete fool of yourself. And looking like a complete idiot and complete legging. So maybe that dovetails with my next question, which was the best advice you've ever received. Well, I wouldn't say that was the best advice. I'd say, oh, here's the best advice I've ever received. And I've been asked this three times today, and I was like, I'm not giving advice for free, but for you, I'll make an exception, Antonia.

For you, I would say the best advice I ever received, and this is a really good one for anyone in Los Angeles or anyone as an actor anywhere, keep your expenses low. because listen like i can be here all day giving you creative advice But ultimately, if you do one TV show and then you're out blowing your money on a big car that's costing you three grand a month, and then you think you're living the dream in this big, huge house because you want to act like you've made it, that's grand.

But the job is going to end, you know, and then you're going to be unemployed and then you're not going to be making 10, 15 grand or whatever the hell you were making a week or whatever. That's going to go.

And how are you going to pay for this life that you have? And that's a mistake so many people make. They just think they're going to be making that money all their life. And you're not going to be making that money all your life. There's going to be a period where you're not going to be making money at all.

I think also like, you know, you want to be thinking about long term future stuff. Like you've got to be planning ahead. I don't think anyone has a job for life anymore. So that is good advice for all of us, whether we're actors or not. Yeah, keep your expenses low and also it just frees you up. Then you're free. You're more free artistically because it's not this notion of I have to get a job because I have to pay for this. You can sit back a bit more and go.

Do I want to do this job? You know, you can be a little bit more artistic, but the minute you need money, artistic goes out the window. that's so true and you see that happen to people where they've had to choose stuff they really didn't want you can tell they just didn't Yeah, and you know what? There's no shame in doing a job for money. I really don't think there's any shame in that. That's part of being a working actor. Not everybody's lucky enough to...

you know, be 21, do their first film and they blow up and they get nominated for an Oscar. I mean, that doesn't happen to like 99% of actors. It doesn't happen. So. In general, you're going to be doing this like working actor route and it's a climb. And so in that regard, I would say, yeah, don't be don't be blowing your money because it's not going to come that easy all the time.

What about what is the part you've always wanted, whether it's something you actually have already done or something that you still want to do? Yeah, I don't have a part that I want to do in the future or anything. Like, I don't think like that. I just kind of go what's in front of me. And if I feel like I want to do it, I never daydream on a part that I'd love to play or anything. But I suppose, you know, all the parts that I really liked, that I wanted, I got, you know?

I mean, like the Lieutenant to finish more would have been a part I really wanted. And then the part in luck was another one that I would really want, really, really wanted. Yeah. What is the most fun you've ever had on a set? Sometimes I get annoyed if people are having too much fun. I'm like, this is a business, guys. Yeah, I'm like, it's all fun and games, okay?

So I can't, let me try and think, you know, I'm pretty serious and I don't, you know, I'm always ready and I don't be wasting money or dicking around. So I don't really have that. I can't say I'd be having loads of fun now, but let me think.

I'd probably say luck again because when I wasn't on the set, I was... riding on a racetrack and that was a lot of fun getting to ride racehorses on a racetrack and stuff yeah usually i'm taking it kind of serious i just think sometimes if you slip into fun you slip into you know we're not taking it's the areas we're going to start ad libbing and then the wheels come off you know so i just kind of you know i mean it just makes me sound like i'm an anti-christ i'd say i'm not

No, it makes me think that you come from the theatre. Exactly. Exactly. And also, I don't want to give off this notion that, like, acting's so amazing and we're all having this laugh all the time. Like, it's nuts, really.

lonely it's really lonely you're having a great time and then you're in your room on your own and then you're home on your own in a hotel room in like in the middle of nowhere in new mexico and you're alone and then like that's kind of the life like it's not all like about that they don't talk about that nobody talks about that because every once you think that you're at the bar with Brad Pitt every evening you know having a whale of a time and it's just not true

I really love you for telling the truth. Thank you. What has been your toughest challenge yet? And you can obviously interpret that to mean whatever challenging thing in life or work. The toughest challenge has been navigating this... this press part of the job, because I've never done it before, not to this extent. And I never knew that it was part of being an actor.

You know, at all. And I don't think anyone does know that until it happens to them. And I'm so glad it's happened to me now at 41, because I think if this had happened to me in my early 20s, like. I mean, I just don't know. I just, God, nobody knows what would have come out of my mouth, you know. So that, I'm so glad it happened. And then, you know, when I, when I wanted to be an actor, it's because I love acting. So I'm I'm I had to learn like.

so many things really quickly um on this journey and it's been great learning them don't get me wrong like and i know them now forever but i i did remember going like oh jesus like i gotta talk at a podium i'm not that girl You know, I wasn't a debater, you know, or the school council or something. Like, that's not me. And it also made me have a lot of respect for actors.

who've been doing it their whole lives like i kind of looked at cate blanchett with different eyes because not only was she this brilliant actress but also i was like oh my god you're still hustling I mean, you know, you're still turning up at these awards and doing these interviews and you've been doing this for how many years? Yeah.

Yeah, now I do know they get compensated more money than I'm getting compensated. And you can argue that at the same time, it's just a whole other skill that I did not know about that I start to think, wow, you know, and the fact that you're still pleasant. is really admirable. I think about that a lot because obviously I'm on the other end of it and I feel it's one of those things that actors...

have trouble articulating a lot of the time because they don't want to sound ungrateful. But actually the reality of being in a press junket and repeating yourself. all day, every day in different cities, it's really full on. It's extremely difficult. It is, and also in this climate too, you know, you might say something flippant to be construed. And then also, like, listen, like that, to bring back earlier, you know, the pajama thing. But like...

You know, then a bunch of tabloids are running with this thing. Now, years ago, my heart would have been pounding. I'd be thinking, oh, God, Jesus, everyone's going to think this and everyone's going to think that. And now Colin's going to, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then there just comes a point, you know, they're just...

you have to develop this kind of like, oh, fuck it. Like, I just can't fucking control it. Like, I don't, there's only, you know, you have to develop a real thick skin, which seems so not what I'm supposed to have as an actor because... you know, like I'm supposed to be like aware of people's feelings and emotionally available and all this. So it's just a whole other kind of skill I've had to learn. And it has been a little bit harder than being an actor because I can't say it.

it comes extremely naturally to me. But I mean, I am lucky of lovely publicists helping me and then I can, you know, vent my frustrations to them. Yeah.

What are the films that make you cry? Do you know what's gas? It's like, for somebody who's not that crazy about getting married, I'm such a romantic. So, like... Bridges of Madison County. Oh my God. I love that film. When she's in the door with her husband in the car and Clint is in the other car and he's about to leave. Oh my God. Oh my God.

You know what, Kerry? So many people talk about that film as being schmaltzy and they say bad things about it, but I cried through the whole thing. It's so romantic. It is. It's so romantic. I remember bawling. My brother still to this day talks about, because he grew up in a house full of women. He was like, I remember you were all crying over that film. Yeah, all of all the women were bawling in the house over it.

so anything romantic um obviously and i mean you know you know there's obviously marley and me But I don't even need to explain why that just absolutely, you know, and watching that in a plane as well, like, oh, my God. Watching stuff on a plane where you're just much more likely to cry. I think it's the altitude. Yeah, that's what everybody says, but I don't know. I think maybe you're just, you know, open and available or something. Okay, what's the character that's most like you?

Maybe Siobhan or I know I suppose like no because I think I need my people know that I'm You know, Siobhan was really dignified in the sense that she didn't need people to know she was very intelligent and stuff like that, whereas I kind of do. Well, I mean, I don't need people to know, but you know what I mean? I wasn't as dignified as her. I don't know. I'd say it would be a combination. like all of the parts have got bits of me in them. I'm ready to tend to finish more maybe.

Yeah, at that time in my life anyways, when I played it, it was very close to who I was and what I believed and stuff. What about, what are your Desert Island movies? Parenthood, Ron Howard's very good woman. Yeah, so do I. And I rewatched it there recently and I was like, God, Jesus, like now that I'm older.

And I really see like the parenthood theme of it. I used to relate to the younger people in it. Same. And then you get to the, and you're like Steve Martin's on that rollercoaster and you're like, I know what you're doing. Yeah. Exactly. I used to relate to the kids too. And now when I watch it, I read. Yeah, but you know what's funny? And it's like what they say in it, like that Steve Martin is 35. And I was like.

Okay, he doesn't look 35 in it. Maybe, you know, in the 90s, 35 meant something different. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know. But it's kind of scary when you're older than 35 because you're like, oh, God. I know, I know. Hannah and her sisters, Woody Allen. Yeah, I think all the actresses in that were brilliant. I've always been a big fan of Diane Beast. and they were just all really brilliant in it. Vem, who else? She's always been very funny.

Yeah, geez, I'm tired because there's so many amazing films. So I don't know what I could be here all day. I don't know. We could come back to it if you think of another one, if you want. I mean, I'll write off a load of them, but I put them in another article, but I'll go like. this boy's life the last boys the last boys remember that film oh i can sing you the whole soundtrack i love that film it was scary and and i saw what's his name eddie murphy the other day and i was thinking of the

Golden Child. I watched that movie so many times. Yeah. Bette Midler and Shelley Long. I used to love them. I was re-watching Cheers there recently. And God, Shelley Long was brilliant. Wasn't she? She really was. And Woody Harrelson, his character in Cheers was so innocent and so funny.

So I'd say any of those, like any of those. They're all brilliant choices. What are your guilty pleasures in terms of things that you might watch? I don't know if there's such a thing as a guilty pleasure, to be honest with you, first of all. But I...

I can't think of, you know, to be honest with you, it's tricky right now because right now I'm watching all the stuff that is being nominated because when I go and meet these people, I want to be able to say that I thought their stuff was brilliant. And so I only wish I had. time to be watching guilty pleasures do you know what i mean and i'm looking forward to having some free time to do that again i i don't know if i have i think everything i watch is pretty great so yeah

What about, do you have a karaoke playlist? No, I've never gone to karaoke or anything. I'm not, like, it's gas, but, you know, everyone thinks, oh, you're an actress, you must love attention, and you must love, you know, it's like, I actually don't, like, to be honest with you, I don't know. that about you that not every actor is driven by attention it's i know and i had a fellow a few weeks ago say to me like oh

You must be good at pretending when you're obsessed, so you trick people and cry. What the fuck are you talking about? I'm not a sociopath. that's how stupid yeah i know i know but i was like yeah right yeah like i'm the talented mr ripley i suppose so i don't um i don't know about About that. Yeah. Do you remember the first film you ever saw at the cinema? Yeah, that's easy. The Lion King. Really? Yeah. Yeah. And it's gas because I was actually.

asked to review The Lion King. It was my first professional paycheck of my life. I was about 10 and like in the summer I was at home and on the radio there was a thing, a debate going on about... people from the country versus people from the city and that we were from the country and i rang in the radio giving out going people from the city think they're so brilliant well they're not and blah blah blah

So anyways, the radio rings me back like a couple hours later and they were like, would you like to review a movie for us? Would you like to go to The Lion King and then you can come up to Dublin to the studio and like review it? And I was like, oh my God. So they paid for me. And my friends, three of us, to go watch The Lion King. And then I got the train to Dublin with my mother and reviewed the movie for them in the studio. Yes! This is the best story ever. You were 10 and you got paid...

to review The Lion King. Yeah, and my review was, it was excellent. I thought it was really good. I thought it was brilliant. That was basically my review of The Lion King. I mean, fair enough, right? Okay, one more and then I promise you're done. What is a time that you were starstruck? I don't get starstruck very often, so I'd have to really think about that. If you don't get starstruck, I could give you a different question.

Well, give me the different question, then I can decide. Okay. What is the weirdest job you've ever had? Well, I used to be a chambermaid cleaning hotel rooms. Did you? Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't say that. It's weird enough. It's hard. And I'll say this, to this day, I leave a tip every time I stay in a hotel room and I leave a generous tip because nobody tips.

The chambermaid. No, they don't. You're right. They never tip, and it's so hard. It's like lifting up the mattress, tucking the thing in, putting it down, cleaning the toilet. It's so, it's back-breaking work, yeah. You've got loads of rooms to do. And also when I go to hotels now, I don't...

I have them clean the room for weeks because I remember when I would be working and you'd get the list of rooms and you'd have like 20 rooms to do and you'd have three hours. If somebody would have Do Not Disturb on the door, you'd be like, oh my God, hallelujah. Yeah, one less room to clean. I always put my do not disturb because I feel guilty about having someone clean. Yes. And also I don't need them to clean this every day. No, you don't.

so yeah I don't and I remember I was on a job there up in Portland a few years ago and I was in the hotel for like months And by the end of it, I was just asking, can I have the vacuum cleaner, please? Can I get that? And I was just doing it myself. Yeah, that's just easier. And it's just like, I'll just do it all myself. Did they think you were not? or did they just give you a vacuum cleaner?

They just gave me a vacuum cleaner. I think I was beyond nuts at that point because I was in the room with my two dogs at that point. And, you know, I think, you know, just having the dogs in the room and the whole set up was probably a little bit. And I was there for months. too, so that whole was probably... They were like, give Kerry the vacuum cleaner, don't argue. Yeah, probably, yeah. And also just, yeah, leaving a little note. And also, that's the other thing as well.

Leave the room in a fecking manner that's like a polite manner. do you know what i mean like leaving a big dirty rotten hotel room for somebody else to clean up is pig ignorant and i just have no time for it i tidy before before i leave before i check out because i'm like Yeah, that's a lovely quality, though, you know? I think about that person who's going to come in.

Everyone should think about that. Everyone, but they don't. They don't like, and that's the thing. And sometimes I remember when I was in New York, you know, when I was in my 20s and we'd be at like some hotel and everyone's drinking and it's all this big party. and then like, you know, and they're wrecking the, not wrecking the hotel room, but leaving the place and the big mess. And I remember Martin told me years ago that it was, was it the clash?

There was somebody, I think it was the Clash, some punk rock group anyways. and that they were trashing the hotel room. Everybody was getting out of hand, they were getting drunk, they were all doing drugs. And one of the band members was like, hey, stop, clean up the room, because my mother's a chambermaid. And I don't want, yeah. And it always stuck with me. I was like, do you know what?

It's great to be working class because you remember working, you should remember working class people and what it's like to be working class and like take care of those people. Yeah. 100%. So Kerry, I have to say, this has been such a pleasure. Thank you so much for being on the podcast. Thanks a million. It's been awesome.

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