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2 Promoters, 1 Pod

ArcTanGent & Damnationwww.damnationfestival.co.uk

ArcTanGent and Damnation organisers, James Scarlett and Gavin McInally, discuss the good, the bad and the downright ridiculous of promoting festivals.

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Episodes

Tour Promoting Vs Festival Promoting

For the fan enjoying their favourite band at a headline tour date or festival there might be a different setlist but for the promoters, it’s a different journey nailing the booking. The approach, the availability, the fee, the rider and conditions can all be a very different landscape depending on if you’re promoting a gig or festival. And what on earth is a “versus 80/20 deal”? James and a Covid-stricken Gav attempt to explain it all. We go again, every Thursday morning. Lou's Brews, use the co...

Nov 28, 20241 hr 31 minSeason 1Ep. 48

Why not Sleep Token? - Q&A 8

Gav and James dive bag into the mail bag to tackle this week’s most pressing issues including the Sleep Token backlash from Download fans and why our two promoters will never, ever work together… unless there’s a Butlins to hire. We go again, every Thursday morning. Lou's Brews, use the code POD15 for 15% off your order - https://www.lousbrews.co.uk Meliora Software, Elevate your fans event experiences with festival and event apps by Meliora Software. - https://meliora.events Synertec, smarter, ...

Nov 21, 20241 hr 17 minSeason 1Ep. 47

Download Vs Outbreak

The Download line-up is out and Gav and James avoid all spoilers to react to it in real time. The highs (Green Day), the lows (Steel Panther) and the billing stunners (Sikth) are all the topics of the night. But what’s that hardcore din in the background determined to gatecrash the UK’s biggest rock and metal party? Oh, just Outbreak not giving a single f#@k over the same weekend. Let’s go! We go again, every Thursday morning.

Nov 14, 20241 hr 32 minSeason 1Ep. 46

The Damnation Debrief

Damnation ‘24 is in the bag and we’re still rattling in disbelief days later but there’s no time to feel sorry for our souls because there’s an event to pick over. Thankfully, Damnation’s Irish general, Paul Farrington, joins the pod to tackle the PTSD of two days' aural abuse in a Manchester industrial estate. From LLNN to Dragged Into Sunlight via Nails, we open up about it all… and why did Gav’s usually placid wife chase an “influencer” around the Russian Circles crowd? There’s also the small...

Nov 07, 20241 hr 36 minSeason 1Ep. 45

Damnation and a Day

It's here...Damnation is tomorrow, Gav is stressed and James is ready to go big. Gav chats us through some of next year’s Damnation plans, and boots off about lanyards and car number plates. Whilst James gets stuck into some questions and talks about whether he is mid feud with Bloodstock or not. We go again, every Thursday morning. We go again, every Thursday morning.

Oct 31, 20241 hr 27 minSeason 1Ep. 44

The BIGGEST Trees announcement EVER!

Five headliners for three nights with an unbelievable reunion coup on top? 2000trees dropped an atom bomb of a band announcement and it exploded over every self-respecting rock fan’s socials. Gav and James quickly reconvened for an instant reaction pod to the news the Kneecap, Pvris, Taking Back Sunday, Coheed & Cambria, Alexisonfire AND Million Dead will invade Upcote Farm in 2025. But nothing is ever completely without a little ballache with the billing! Enjoy some rare Friday fun. We go a...

Oct 25, 202447 minSeason 1Ep. 43

It's a Sick New World - Q&A 7

Gav and James dive back into the virtual mailbag to address the most pressing concerns of the listeners. Would we allow an artist to "curate" our festivals? What's our thoughts on oversold shows? And why did James have the police at his door earlier this year? More importantly, is Gav really going to slag off the mighty Black Sabbath? First though, can we all just take a moment to discuss THAT Sick New World line-up poster!? We go again, every Thursday morning....

Oct 24, 20241 hr 44 minSeason 1Ep. 42

Fan Denial: Ahab v Dragged Into Sunlight

The Damnation clashfinder is out and Gav is ready to take his licks as the fans demand to know what idiot clashed Dragged Into Sunlight with Ahab and why? But before the slot by slot lines-ups of A Night of Salvation and Damnation can be explained there's some Trees headliner news, a change of ArcTanGent's Wednesday plans and another late cancellation for Gav to contend with. And is it a face cloth or a flannel? We go again, every Thursday morning....

Oct 17, 20241 hr 50 minSeason 1Ep. 41

The Band Manager with Andy Farrow

Let's get down to business. And who better than to pour over the industry spreadsheets, receipts and album charts than Mr Andy Farrow, manager of the likes of Opeth, Devin Townsend, Paradise Lost and Katatonia? The Northern Music Company boss talks promoting to publishing, The Wildhearts to Oceansize and the chances of ever seeing Strapping Young Lad again. Get your pen and paper ready, this is a crash course in music management. We go again, every Thursday morning....

Oct 10, 20241 hr 32 minSeason 1Ep. 40

Karnivool to Kylesa: ATG 25

The first wave of bands have been announced for 2025, and it's a tsunami worth diving into. Karnivool, Melvins, Rolo Tomassi, Kylesa, Between the Buried and Me playing Colors, The Fall of Troy playing Doppelgänger and not just one, but two We Lost The Sea sets, including "the greatest post rock album ever"... Departure Songs. Plenty to get swept away by but first, what's the issue with international bank transfers, music award bashes and agents selling you a dummy! Curly fucking Wurly, indeed. W...

Oct 03, 20241 hr 30 minSeason 1Ep. 39

Tour Manager Torment

When you're up to your eyes in it on show day a friendly tour manager can save your mood but an aggressive tour manager can ruin it. But what is a tour manager, why are they so important to bands and why do their roles and attitudes vary so wildly? Gav and James do their level best to describe the role before sharing their experiences of dealing with the good, the bad and the downright ridiculous sides of the hard-grafting TM. And what the fuck are ginger shots? We go again, every Thursday morni...

Sep 26, 20241 hr 34 minSeason 1Ep. 38

After The Booking (Advancing)

You've made your offer for the band, it's been accepted and even the ballache of billing the poster might have been settled... but now what? There's a series of hurdles to deal with before your prized booking ever sets foot on your stage; press and promo, backline, production, hotels and ground transport and did you remember there's no onion or garlic allowed in the hot meal? Gav and James pick through the pitfalls of "advancing" any band and explain that even when everyone appears to be on the ...

Sep 19, 20241 hr 31 minSeason 1Ep. 37

Gender Equality - Q&A 6

Gav and James commit 90 minutes to catching up with as many questions as they can to clear the backlog... and fail miserably. Slam Dunk taking a gender balancing beating from the BBC, the pressures of Damnation mounting, a film review no one asked for and an unprompted Deftones discography chat take centre stage instead. Oh, and there's some questions from listeners to finish the pod off. We go again, every Thursday morning.

Sep 12, 20241 hr 32 minSeason 1Ep. 36

Dynamic Pricing & The Road to Damnation

Our first (and hopefully last) Friday pod after a Spanish drama that required an Emergency Passport. Gav and James tackle the hot topic of Oasis' "dynamic pricing" PR disaster before getting stuck into Damnation planning and your questions. We also pick our very first 'Super Sub' to play their part in next week's pod. Thanks for your patience, and enjoy. We go again, every Thursday morning.

Sep 06, 20241 hr 35 minSeason 1Ep. 35

ATG Debrief & Six Months of 2 Promoters

It's exactly six months from the release of episode one and we're in the mood to celebrate but first we have to savour the delights of another spectacular edition of ArcTanGent. Best sets of the weekend, how surreal the live pod was and the benefits of Bossk's bus. And Gav has a wee rant about "wet wipe Karens" who find any reason to complain about everything from tall people to kids blowing bubbles. We go again, every Thursday morning.

Aug 29, 20241 hr 31 minSeason 1Ep. 34

Live at ArcTanGent

Gav and James took the stage in a PACKED Elephant In The Bar Room Stage at ArcTanGent for their second live outing, only for the "curse of Johannes" to strike just as they were warming up. But it takes more than a full power outage to stop this pod. And if the show keeps growing at this rate, it might just become a "real job". We go again, every Thursday morning.

Aug 22, 202438 minSeason 1Ep. 33

Sonisphere, Metallica albums and instalment tickets - Q&A 5

As we near the end of a summer of chaos, James prays the wi-fi holds up from a campervan in Fernhill Farm to tackle the most pressing of fan questions. What is our favourite Metallica record? Are payment plans and risky business strategy? What's the story with noise curfews and would James rather cancel Trees or ATG if he had to? We answer them all in our fifth Q&A session. We go again, every Thursday morning.

Aug 15, 20241 hr 27 minSeason 1Ep. 32

Countdown to ArcTanGent (feat. Bossk)

ArcTanGent's 10th birthday bash is almost upon us and we're in the mood to party. Co-hosting from a campervan in Fernhill Farm, James talks us through the "holiday mode" site build, where Spiritualized appeared from at the 11th hour and some last-minute shuffles with band cancellations and replacements. And we're joined by the man, the myth, the bassist of Bossk, Mr Tom Begley, fresh from TMing Converge, to reveal the band's grand plans for their two sets next week, and the highlights to catch i...

Aug 08, 20241 hr 21 minSeason 1Ep. 31

The Exact Cost of Our Festivals

Gav and James dust off their old budget sheets and company accounts and crunch the numbers of running festivals over the past two decades. How is it possible that in 2024 James paid more for diesel than the ENTIRE bill for Damnation 2005? And it costs how much to have bins emptied!? We get in about pounds and pence. We go again, every Thursday morning.

Aug 01, 20241 hr 23 minSeason 1Ep. 28

Trees Review & Clown Core No More

Fresh from a successful 2000trees festival, Gav and James hit us up with a breakdown of all things that went off over the weekend. They talk Live Podcasts, Merch, Hot Sauce, Toilets and even a bit about bands! And in true form, they decide to do it on opposite sides of the world via an iPhone and Mexican Wi-Fi, We Go Again...or, Nosotros vamos de nuevo! We go again, every Thursday morning.

Jul 25, 20241 hr 38 minSeason 1Ep. 29

Live at 2000trees

Gav and James break free from Zoom for the first live 2 Promoters, 1 Pod show at the brilliant 2000trees. And yes, there were towels. We go again, every Thursday morning.

Jul 18, 202445 minSeason 1Ep. 28

The People Vs 2 Promoters

Stand in boss, Bri, reports: They’ve tackled wi-fi dramas, festival set-up demands and even drink issues but they’ve still managed to record their thoughts for this week’s pod. You asked about gender equality, Biffy Clyro playing b-sides and their favourite bands of 2024. And they answered. Today the first 2 Promoters, 1 Pod live show happens at 2,000 Trees. If you can be there. Be there. Links for all things 2 Promoters: https://linktr.ee/2promoters1pod We go again, every Thursday morning....

Jul 11, 20241 hr 11 minSeason 1Ep. 27

Plan B... and Outbreak

Recorded over a five-day stretch with limited wi-fi at Upcote Farm, Gav and James persevere with a Plan B podcast tackling some follow-up topics raised by listeners and tales of trying to book Ed Sheeran for £75. And discuss Outbreak festival's successful return to BEC Arena, backed by an army of hardcore fans. It's our Frankenstein pod. We went again, and again, and again... We go again, every Thursday morning.

Jul 04, 20241 hr 16 minSeason 1Ep. 26

Q&A#4 "Why weren't AFI rebooked?"

Why didn't AFI come back to Trees post-pandemic? How big do you want your festivals to grow? Why do you announce bands in waves? Is booking two sets overindulgence? We tell you, in the fourth of our monthly 2P1P Vs The People Q&As. We go again, every Thursday morning.

Jun 27, 202452 minSeason 1Ep. 25

Talking 2000trees with Frank Turner

Fresh from selling out Ally Pally in hours and a successful tour Stateside, Frank Turner joins 2 Promoters, 1 Pod to declare his love for all things 2,000 Trees. But before he takes the stage for a SEVENTH time at Upcote Farm, he discusses what it takes to tackle America, his "woeful" attempt at being a promoter for Botch's first UK tour and gets James flustered with some exciting Million Dead developments. Enjoy. We go again, every Thursday morning....

Jun 27, 202439 minSeason 1Ep. 24

The Download Debrief

Gav and James took a road trip to the big dog of UK metal festivals, Download, for an all too literal dirty weekend. Swamp conditions aside, we discuss the best and worst sets, our take on the Barclays sponsorship protests and what can go wrong when you take an innocent photo of Pantera's crowd from the top of a ferris wheel and post it on the internet. We go again, every Thursday morning.

Jun 20, 20241 hr 21 minSeason 1Ep. 23

Farm to Festival

This week's pod is James' emotional rollercoaster: from opening up about a serious health scare, being "pissed off" with a rival festival, to his passion for fence posts and playing invisible Minecraft... this one has it all. He also explains the challenges of turning a sheep field into a festival site where you can watch The Gaslight Anthem and invites YOU to get involved. We. Go. Again. We go again, every Thursday morning.

Jun 13, 20241 hr 36 minSeason 1Ep. 22

Dissecting Download with Kam Haq

3 Promoters, 1 Pod! Download's Kam Haq joins us to lift the curtain on the workings of the UK's biggest metal gathering. What's life like at the top of the ladder, all Champagne and cigars at Live Nation HQ? Or is it the same headaches and hassles with billing, booking headliners and clashes as the rest of us mere mortals suffer? We get in about it all and pick some must see bands from this year's line-up as we look forward to Download 2024. We go again, every Thursday morning....

Jun 06, 20241 hr 35 minSeason 1Ep. 21

Q&A#3 "Why did you buy two tour buses?"

We (drunkenly) go again! Gav and James get the pints in and tackle some of the more light-hearted questions. Favourite food vendors at our festivals? What bands would we go back and see with a time machine? Top three bands we've ever seen live? And why did Gav buy not one, but two tour buses? Hiccup! We go again, every Thursday morning.

May 30, 20241 hr 16 minSeason 1Ep. 19

Suffering for Salvation

Not all events are booked the same. Some promoters enjoy a professionally packaged tour arriving on their doorstep, others don't mind the challenge of luring over bands who rarely play and then there's Damnation, who want artists to dust off old records and perform them as a world exclusive sets in Manchester. Problem is, that's as time consuming, expensive and as difficult as it sounds. But in the end, is it worth all it? We go again, every Thursday morning....

May 30, 20241 hr 22 minSeason 1Ep. 20
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