76. Nardcore for Life Compilation

What's up, everyone? This week on the pod, we are going to go through the entire new Nardcore for Life compilation LP, which is coming out on September 4th and is up for pre-order today. So everyone go to indecisionrecords.com and pre-order the record. There is some bundles, so if you want to get a sick tank top... Get it, dude. It's the only time you're going to be able to get a tank top with that artwork on the front. And buy a bunch of records, dude.

I think that's a great idea. I think my grandmother, if

she were alive still, would absolutely love this record. Especially the retaliate song.

Grandma Revis is the fucking best. She knows. She knows. She knows. They're the best.

Yeah. It looks fantastic. It sounds fantastic.

I'm really proud that I'm part of this in my own little way without a trust. Everything I've heard You know, because we got to listen

to it prior to recording this pod. I'm unbelievably impressed on how

great all the songs are. You know, the

artwork, the cover, the cover art is super cool. Got a little nostalgia and a little bit of new. So,

you know,

it's not a rehash. It's a revitalized, shall we say.

And then the booklet is fucking stupid. It went all in on that. It looks great.

Buy the record. Yeah, this is a full, like, 185... Pre-order the record. Yeah, pre-order that shit today, indecisionrecords.com. This is a full-on, like, 185 miles south of Jason Project, because you got, you know, Stu, myself, and our friend Andrew Hester, we kind of put this thing together and did a lot of the work on it, and then... You got Joe. Well, first off, you get to hear my band, Stu band, and Joe's band. And Joe wrote some liner notes for it. And Stu and I both did as well.

Repute song.

You know, it is. It's so good. It's so good. New False Confession song. You got Joe's band Out of Trust. You got Stu's band Omega Point. We got a brand new No Motive song. You know, we got Downpresser on it. We got Minus on it. We got my favorite track. Three Day Holocaust. Three Day Holocaust. We got my favorite track on it, the Charman track. You know, this shit is fucking fun. And then you get a

download card

to get another... How many more songs? 12 songs? Yeah.

Digital?

Yeah. So you got the whole record. The record is 24 tracks, and then there's 12 extra songs on the digital. This is like new Dr. No song. You got Prying Eyes on there. You got I Decline. New Keep Fighting. New Keep Fighting. You got all this shit. So... Yeah, man, this

is a real line, right? Yeah.

Yeah. We got it. It's a full representation of the scene and yeah, please support it. Go to indecision records.com today and pre-order that thing. And yeah, really, really appreciate that. That supports, you know, us, us doing ambitious projects like this, which are a part of what I'm doing here. But yeah, yeah. Let me go to my normal spiel, which is please support the podcast.

Let's get on with the pod.

285 miles south a hardcore punk rock podcast

yeah dude we're in um what's up everyone

hi we're here yeah

this week we are doing another episode of talking hardcore and we are discussing the nardcore for life compilation um on indecision records that should be out september 4th pre-order now at indecisionrecords.com yeah and so we're gonna go through it and then fucking be pretty stoked um we got a stew here like always hey omega point the fucking man the man behind the fucking rack and uh We got the legend, dude. You know who he is. He's episode one. He's Joe Revis.

Goddamn. Hi, everybody.

Yeah, and then also joining us, we got Andrew Hester, the man. Maybe he's Andrew Flyswatter. Maybe he's Andrew Day Holocaust. Andrew Heckler.

What's up, guys? How's it going?

Yeah, so we got Andrew on the pod. And me, Andrew, and Stu are the ones that we put together this thing. So... I think we should, it's a little bit of a celebration, huh?

I think so. Yeah. It's a big deal.

Yeah. It's something that like, you know, it's basically now every 10 years something comes out. So, you know, the reason why we call it Nardcore for life is not only because that's a phrase that gets thrown around a lot. It's because the number four is involved in it. Because we consider the original Nardcore comp obviously number one. And then we took Fred's Localism comp. from the 90s. Consider that Nardcore 2. And then Nardcore 30 years later that Tony put out in the 2000s.

2009. Yeah,

2008, 2009. We're considering that Nardcore 3. And then this one is Nardcore 4. That's right. Yeah, dude. So pretty fucking stoked. And we were able to put this together. Every single band put out a new exclusive track to this comp. So there's no rehash. And basically, we fucking did the comp just to get one new ill-repeat song, right?

Basically.

The whole point of the record was to get a new ill-repeat song. Everything else is a fucking bonus. And that's that. And there's some big bonuses, for sure. For sure. Some big bonuses, like that Out of Trust song and how many young Narcord people are going to lose their virginity to it. Oh, fuck, yeah.

So true, dude. Oh, those chords.

Yeah, those are sad, emotional hug me chords, you know? And then the hugging leads to kissing, and you know the rest. Cone chords. Cone chords. But yeah, yeah. Let's circle back, and I just wanted to ask you guys, just out of curiosity, do you guys have a favorite song off the first Narcore comp?

Yeah, that was a really hard one for me, but I settled with Scared Straight.

Yeah, which one?

Skate to Live.

Oh, shit.

That song just hauls so much ass, and I feel like that's, to be completely honest, that's my only Scared Straight favorite.

Yeah, I mean, I think it is the best Scared Straight song. Absolutely. You know, it's just a rager.

Yeah, it's just nuts the whole time. It makes me want to skateboard. When I first heard it, I heard it skating, and that's it, dude. It's just a great song.

Yeah. Joe, you got one? I'm going to say it's really tough. All three of the RKL songs are amazing.

Yes. But it's not going to happen to me. The Ill Repeat song is Jim's bass line, just what the song's about, and it's just everything. It's just... Well,

yeah, if you don't respect Jim playing slap bass, you might get slapped yourself.

That's what they say.

Yeah, in part, when they're going with the breakdown part a little longer, it's like, it's not going to happen to me.

Oh, that part, yeah, yeah,

yeah. That's slap bass, dude. You're right, you're right. Yes, you got me.

Andrew. False confession feline. Oh, yeah. I love that song so much. And they play it so well live, too. It's

just such a good song. It cuts up the album so perfect. That's like the glory of that song. Yeah. Now, when I was thinking about it, it's like that one is a standout. And then also, like, you can't fuck with Dr. No Circle of Fear. But I'm disqualifying both because they put them out on records, other records. Yeah. So those are two of my favorites. But I'm going AFU High on the Hog. You know?

other song?

Go ahead. Wait, what? Your song. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay. It's spooky. Patriot only. Yeah. No, no, no. No. So they go in and they record the song, Dead Horses. Fucking awesome. What can we say about it? Yeah. It's a great song. It feels like the 7-inch and... Big rusty balls at the same time. It's insane

how great it is.

This is catchy. Classic Tony riff. High notes. It reminds me of Cherokee. Chuck's drumming is fucking crazy. I

love Chuck's drumming. He drums so fast, but it's just as fast as I can go air drumming. like if he went any faster i couldn't keep up air drumming but he's like pushing i'm like yeah dude i'm right in the pocket you know yeah i did but uh this song rips um you guys are gonna love it when you hear it john sounds uh amazing like he's 18. Yeah. He sounds so good. Jim's bass is solid, like everything. His bass lines on this song are amazing. It is an ill-repeated song.

day in general was amazing because... Omega Point goes in to go recording at the Captain's Quarter Studios in Ventura.

Shadow Armo.

Shadow Armo. And we roll up, and Dr. No is breaking down all their gear. And we go in. We record our song. And then Ill Repute goes in and records

their song. It was fucking amazing to be sandwiched in that. Dude, Omega's the meat in that Narcor sandwich.

And that Ill Repute vocal pattern is just so sick.

It's so good. It's so good. Just

catchy

as

fuck. It's a good song.

You guys are going to be really happy with this song when you get this record in your hands. Yeah. In a couple weeks. Yeah, and buy a couple copies, dude. So let's get it into a second press. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Different color. Yeah, dude. All right. Second song. What's up? In control. This is

kind of a big deal.

In control in my town. Yeah. So it took us 16 years. A brand new song. Yeah, a brand new song, dude. Here's your fucking song. Yeah. It's like, I don't know, in the spirit of the comp, I wanted to be a part of it. Shit. That's all. We've been broken up for a long time, but I was like, man, this is a project that, like, not only am I putting a lot of time into, but I care about it a lot, and I care about the scene a lot.

I agree with you

100%. Maybe the early 82, 83, 84. Yeah, when you're starting something from scratch, there's nothing like the very beginning, right? Because you can never go back to that innocence. But the reason why it was so special is because you had multiple generations firing people We've said it to death on the show. That's what this comp is. Yes. Oh, yeah, for sure. The youngest of bands all the way to the irreputes. So you're crossing a 40-year span of punk rock. All from the same area.

that we want to be a part of. Yeah, he was stoked. And you guys put out really good fucking songs.

Yeah, so we tried to write

them. Really good songs.

Yeah, and then, Andrew, you were telling me last night that there's also a large digital portion of this comp that's because vinyl only holds a certain amount. So we're going through the vinyl today, but there is about 10 extra songs, 10, 15 extra songs that are on the digital portion. It might end up being a little less, because Andrew was telling me last night, oh, two of those bands already broke up. Two bands have

broken up off the digital part. And they just let me know, and I was just like, oh,

crazy. So we're lucky we didn't choose them for the vinyl part, right? Yeah, exactly. A band like Civil Conflict that we did choose, and we'll get to, In my opinion, even if they broke up tomorrow, they've made enough of a dent that I want them on the comp. Especially 2019, which is what we were trying to capture. Everything comes a little later just because it takes so long. To put a record out. To get the bands together, to get the songs recorded.

And all the other steps that you guys have

been

going through. It's a lot of work, but I should say that I imagine it being much harder.

Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah, it went pretty smooth. It went pretty smooth. And again, full disclosure, like...

How many bands on the vinyl?

22? 24. 24. God, that's a lot of bands. That's a lot. 24, right? Yeah, 24. Yeah. So, yeah. That's amazing. And so just so everyone has like an idea, like obviously everyone knows when this is coming out, but we started the serious work on it like... at the beginning of September. So that's how long a project like this takes to come to fruition. So you've got to see it all the way through. Yeah, so about eight or nine months. It's like having a baby. Yeah, I guess. A little Nard baby.

I don't know. Lyrically, this song captures what it's like living in Oxnard.

Yeah. I mean, look, it's so much pressure to not put out a song for 15 years and then come back and do one song.

Yeah.

Because I've thought about doing another In Control, maybe a seven-inch or a few songs. I was just thinking it's like, How do you come back after being kind of like an LP band and then do a couple songs? There's too much writing on it. I would think you would have to come back and be like a good, kind of do a verbal assault type thing would be the only thing that I think would be an acceptable direction to take that band in. Because really, E-Control turned into Retaliate.

You know what

I mean? I mean, that is it. And so In Control has to take a direction of not going drop tuned and not heavy like that. So that would be the direction I was thinking about going in. But then this... Just came to me. I was trying to, like, ghost write a song for another band. And I was like, I fucking love this song too much. I'm keeping it. You know? And change the lyrics. It's in my town. It's some of my favorite lyrics I ever wrote. Like, I love the sunken ships line. I

love the Tony C the fucking man line. Yeah.

Tony C the fucking man.

Tony C the fucking man.

So, yeah. I hope you guys enjoy it. And, shit, I wrote a little lead. But yeah, that song.

Makes me cry. It's a

good one.

Yeah.

I love that song so much.

Yeah. Until we get fucking blown off the stage by False Confession dropping their song Plague. Jesus. Song number three. Yeah, song number three. And this is... It's there to smack you in the face. Like, this is fucking brutal.

This is their first song since when?

Yeah. Yeah.

30 years?

Yeah. I mean, because they did like... They did a demo. Then they did that 7-inch. And then the demos just came out on LP a few years

ago.

And then they submitted the song. So in the same recording here, they're going to have an LP come out. It might actually come out. right around the same time or it might just just before yeah yeah so it might actually be out like any day now i just saw advertisement for it yeah yeah it's coming out on more advertisement for it yeah yeah it's coming out puke and vomit and so like it's gonna be fucking awesome if it's anything like this is

it on puke and vomit or queer pill

uh i think it's a split split yeah split i can only remember half so uh yeah you're right yeah we're

both right fool yeah that that I thought he meant, I thought I heard that queer pill on there.

Okay. Um, yeah, it's, it's awesome. Like dbd type song with like brutal fucking

medley mosh part metal riffs. And then the mosh part at the end is fucking insane. And I just want to beat the shit out of everybody. It's

so heavy when they start like the second half of the breakdown, when they start like adding in like the single string, like do, do, do, do,

do, do, do,

do. So ill. so ill

not what they're drawing from but i get just crazy like 90s metal vibe like metalcore vibes

yeah but it's like loose yeah but like the way they play it is so loose that it's like fucking awesome um yeah love it what do you think joe yeah um fred's good car is i mean you guys were talking about tone earlier we we took a listen to the whole record before we um before we started potting here today, everyone. So yeah, Fred's guitar tone is just fucking phenomenal. Yeah. Everything

is great. All of it. They killed it so hard on this song. Yeah. So everything. It sounds good. Harry, his drums. Harry's drums are fantastic. Israel's vocals are

superb. They're so crazy. Yeah.

Yeah. You could hear them so clearly. It's... Awesome.

It's such a good song. Why are you guys dogging on Ismael?

Well, you know.

No. No, the bass line is like, it drives the whole song. Yeah. Ismael's my bass hero, so it's super good.

Yeah. Go.

Yeah, they done fucked up in control, so they sent us back into retirement. Another 15 years. You sequenced it, fool. I know. Next up, the man, Ender Hester. Let's see how shy you get when we talk about your band.

Let's

do it. Yeah, so we got Three Day Holocaust, and this song is called Built to Last, and I fucking love it. love this song um the drumming on it is fucking insane

yeah yo adam killed it on this one i'm a brother yeah my bro he killed it he did a he did a great job on it like we me and uh justin were working on the riff the other guitarist and uh when we brought it into the studio like That was some of the first things that he came up with on the drums, and it just sounded good. He picked up on it super fast, and then a couple days, like a week out before we recorded the song, that's when Jay wrote the solo for it, and it just all came together.

It was

just a fun time, dude.

It's like, who are all these fucking loiterers? Seriously, in the studio for

10 hours, not recording? And there were so many people

just sitting in the front room, just, like, partying, listening to, like, these songs get recorded. What was

next? Oh, man, this is great. It was very exciting.

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, dudes. This song is really fun to air drum to. It's one of my favorite activities. Obviously, I've been outed.

Yeah, I don't do stuff.

Yeah, that's cool. Well, I didn't realize it was embarrassing until y'all laughed at me. The singer does, like, two distinctly different voices. Yeah, yeah. I was like, hey, man.

That's crazy. I thought it was you, dude.

No, like, he did the, like, we... came in in the morning and like we were he recorded with us in the room and um the first time i think he did like a regular voice and then we went he went back to punch it in and he did that and it just sounded cooler it i i love it

unity song

yeah love it you gotta have it hey dude the more unity songs the better yeah right all right Next song is Stalag 13, I Don't Need It. This is actually the only song that's not an original on here. Well, it is theirs. But it is like they reworked a song off their demo. New demo, yeah. No, this was actually on their demo. It was on the Stalag 13 original demo from 83. Yeah, yeah. And they actually put out a CD recently that's kind of lost to history. It came out like...

sounds like it could have been on in control

yeah and then and john's vocals are fucking perfect on it like the way like like the way that the the tempo ended up being like john was able to like merge into this, like, perfect 80s hardcore singer where it's, like, doing, like, the call and answer, like, on the verse. Like...

And,

you know, everyone knows John. He's got one of the greatest, like... Great vocal range. Yeah, like that clean punk voice. Clean, shouty punk voice is great. So I thought, this is fucking awesome. Again, it's, like, the one with the asterisk that it's, like, a re-recording... But I just wanted everyone to fucking hear it because I think it's so awesome. So I hope you guys think that was a decent idea. I agree. I think it is.

Yeah, and to have them on there just period is just cool.

It's cool because this band's had like three different lineups, three different singers. And it's cool to see this lineup with John and Ben. And they play so much. So got to have them on the comp.

And this song... Just rules. Yeah, it shows you that they're still a good band that's fun to go see. They're so fun to see. They're going to play the songs you know and love, and you're not going to walk away disappointed.

And John's just a great front man. He's always been a good front man.

Yeah. Yeah. Fucking cool. All right. Next, the fucking current fucking flag-waving crown wearer, flag bearer. That's what I was looking for. Crown of misfortune. The current flag bearers of fucking hardcore, Dead Heat, coming with a song called No More Pain. And, man, after doing a couple records of real crossover thrash stuff, I love them peppering in some new wave of British heavy metal shit into this. What a brilliant fucking slight turn, you know? Fucking love it.

It's just not a hardcore song. It's a straight-up metal song.

I would say that the vocals and the tempos and how succinct it is still keeps it as a hardcore song.

Chris kind of, with the vocals, he brings that hardcore element into it. Yeah. Man, that song's so good. The way that it starts out with the drums, you know, John kills it. And then Anthony with that riff is just...

The riffs and the solos, it's just amazing. They played, yeah.

Yeah, they've been playing it. Well, remember a few months back... When they played it the first time at that Hong Kong

show. Oh, dude, that fucking show was so good.

Yeah. When they bust that out, it was like, oh, shit, like everyone knew it.

The fireworks show? Yeah, yeah. Shout out to fireworks in the Hong Kong.

Yeah. Well, I bought enough drinks that night. Like, they should be okay with it. You know? I didn't even complain because one guy was charging me one price and, like, the other person was charging me one price. I was like, okay, let's just let this slide. You know? Just be a good sport. And then someone let off a fucking firework in their business. So whatever. Call it even. A? Yeah. Several rules. Anyway, this song is the fucking shit.

That's right. I feel the same way.

Yeah. The fucking little, tiny bass thing before the breakdown is one of the things that makes punk and hardcore so special. You're working within this box of tools, right? And then someone comes up with this little thing that's so creative and such a no-brainer, and you're like, what did I think of that? The story with this song is we

had a studio that Vince and our friend Sean from Shear, a band out of Thousand Oaks area, they built this studio out. We had to leave, and we... are now at a new studio in Oxnard with Three Day Holocaust, Dying to Be Dead, all these local bands. And we wrote this song and channeled our inner Nard because that place is like right next to Winsburgers.

That is about as

Nard as you get. It's like so fucking Nard, dude. What up, A Street? It

survives so

long, dude. We just channeled it, wrote that shit, and then we took a couple months to tweak that song and then... We were just trying to put parts together, and I was like, dude, just play zero on the bass into the mosh part. And that was it. Yeah. Yeah. I like that song a lot. It's super cool. We played it a couple weeks ago, months ago. I forget how long. But yeah,

stoked. Yeah. Mikey sounds great. Yeah. Everyone

sounds great. Watching you guys record that song, you and Vince killed it so hard. It sounded so powerful in the studio, and it sounds just, it's a good song. I like it. The bass. Group vocals on that.

Oh, dude. Let's talk about that. The vocals on that. It was like Joe Revis. Fred Hammer just walks in with his headphones. He's like, all right, what are we saying?

All right, we got some legit Fred phones on the gang.

Yeah. Shout out to Fred phones.

There was like

17 people in the room.

It was

wild. Yeah,

it was wild. It was

a lot of people. That was really cool.

That rules. Let's remember to compare that gang against the Dad Brains gang. Because that's kind of funny. All right, next up is... Raylor, We Are The Grimm. And I love Raylor, just like I love Blasting Concept.

Yeah.

You know, and this is a cool fucking, they went full catchy song on this. Yeah. You know, those gangs are fucking catchy and infectious. It's a fucking hard rocker song with, you know, just, I mean, this band is oozing skills, you know. Capra and

Benji.

Yeah, Benji.

They're raging. Yeah, Calvin, all of them. They're raging. Ben

on the bass, dude.

Yeah. And so, you know, there's a mid tempo banger that's fucking, it's just literally Ray George.

It's just fun. It's like gimmicky, but in like the best way possible.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, what does we are the grim mean?

Well, they, they're basically an, uh, an audio version of the gremlins movie. Okay. And so they, they just take that and run with it. Yeah. Like it's cool.

It's good. That is so rad. Jared is like such a good, frontman too you know his first time being in a band too right yes yeah and he just killed right off the bat he was just a rager dude yeah so good

that is fucking awesome i love that um all right next up is uh out of trust between narco forever so uh take it away joe yeah You said, you told me, okay, so a requirement, we should throw this out there, a requirement to be on the vinyl was the songs had to be under two minutes. Yep. Under two minutes, new and exclusive. New and exclusive, yeah. And Zach and I and Stu have this ongoing message thread, you know,

and I told them there's no way I can write a two-minute song. And then I look at my discography of songs and most of them are under two minutes. So

yeah, I was just messing around with these chords and I just came up with this and then I showed it to Forrest and he's like, okay, I could do this to it and whatever. And then we just kind of wrote the lyrics like the day before, like completed them the day before we went in the studio and it just came out like that.

Yeah, you

got me. But yeah, I love the song. Very emotional. Yeah. Fucking dig it. What are you going to say about it without having a tear, like a slow

tear? It's a tearjerker.

Yeah. I don't know of a jerker. I'd say like a single tear. You guys are talking about like... Musically. My guitar, the guitar parts and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah.

Because the

lyrics

are

just another... Those

two, though. Those are speaking to the kids, Joe.

Yeah. You're saying the scene is here for you, like someone had something traumatic happen.

Yeah, dude. Let me come over. Well, I don't know, you know?

I don't know. I love it. And it's a great, great melodic song on the record, just showing the range of the bands that we're trying to document here. And swinging completely the other way is Combat Shock with their song called Deconstruction. Just full fucking DB discharge worship, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Gizem yelling. Love it. Inaudible.

Yeah. And this riff is so fucking good. The fact that people can still find riffs to play in this genre is impressive. Incredibly impressive. Like, oh shit, that's a good one. I

thought they've all been

done. Who wrote that?

Sick-ass lead in the song, too. Yeah, the lead is a ripper. Who's playing

that lead? Ben. Fucking Ben.

Yeah, he's a fucking ripper. Ben Halen.

Ben Halen, right? Yeah. Yeah. Same dude from Stalag? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, doing Double D. A lot of people doing Double D on this record. Triple D.

Yeah, he plays bass. Yeah, killed it on three songs.

Oh, so Carrar is tied. I thought Carrar was the reigning champion of this comp, but he's tied with Ben Halen. John's on three? Yeah, John's on three. Stalag, Dad Brains, and Detoxi. So you want to beat that? So we got a tie.

God

damn it, we got to make two trophies now.

He's doing backups on that Out of Trust song. Does that count?

Maybe. It pushes it to one. So who's doing backups? John is. Alright,

John. The champion of

Nardcore for life. Hit the fucking trumpets. All right. After Combat Shock, we are going to Stu's favorite narco band, Dad Brains. Oh, dude. I love this song because the amount of inside

jokes that are involved in this song. It's fucking amazing. It takes this whole process of putting this comp together and just puts it in a song less than 50 seconds.

Yeah. Yeah, I enjoy getting owned on

a song. Thanks, dude. You got your ass

handed to you, dude, lyrically. It's so good. Yeah, it's so good. Like, zero context. Yeah, I know, zero context. It's the joke's so inside that no one will get it. No, I think they'll get it. Once they read lyrics or try to decipher them, then they'll figure it out. You know, just I think in this time, like our political climate, we're You know, even the president is a petty bitch. I'm going to lead by example and rise above. You know? I'm taking the moral high ground on

this one. Yeah, but this is just a... No, I know,

I know, I know. I wrote your song full. Your best song. Your best song. No, this song is fucking great. Super catchy. Pat does a great job with his vocal delivery. And did you record this one? Is this a Roger Armo? Who did the backups? Where do you do the backups at, Joe? We did it at Armo Studio, but with Roger. Okay, so Roger's the brain behind it. The same time that... Retaliated, recorded. Oh, that's right. That's right. So the gang vocals on this are just you and Pat.

just two people?

Yeah. That's why I wanted to compare it against when you were saying you had like 17 people for like that. That was so many people. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. This is literally just him and Pat and they came out great because... Episode one. Yeah. I know, dude.

He's claiming

it, dude. When you like merge those skills of episode one and Roger... And Pat. And Pat. Jeez. And sprinkle in a little technology, you're going to fucking be getting places. So yeah, this song is fucking cool. Yeah, it's fun. It's a lot of fun.

It's fun, and it solidifies what they're trying to go for as a band, which is comedy.

And I do a really good job at it. And PG comedy. PG comedy, too. You know? Yeah. It's like Bill Cosby without, like, the fucking touchy-feelys. You know? So.

Cheers. Cheers.

I don't know. What's another PG comedian?

I can't.

see yeah okay so yeah this song's cool um next up is detoxy and uh this was awesome so you know is a story behind this comp like joe had just said um we had to have every song being under two minutes because full disclosure okay so i think you get what 22 minutes per size of an lp before you start getting major degradation yeah yeah before you start having a degradation of of the uh The sound quality. The sound quality, right.

oh for sure yeah and detox is like one of those bands that ties in all the like others they're like the last genre you know in that punk you know yeah of all what we do they do something a little bit different but they're in that family and they

rock so

hard they rock it

yeah it's totally in the family like i mean you know the first christian death record is pretty rocking yeah you know like you know the the genre is rocking um and they they fucking knock this genre out of the park i think yeah

oscar dude

he

his bass lines are

so

amazing yeah derek's guitar and his vocals are fantastic he's got a great voice

you know yeah so this is like equally creepy as it is catchy

and infectious yeah yeah i feel like i'm in a demented fun house while i listen to this yeah

yeah i mean like a maze of mirrors

i can't find my way out yeah seriously

yeah yeah you're the dark carnival Hey, Miracles, Magnets, how do they work?

God

damn it. But yeah, so this song rips. It's the last song on side A. Yeah, or side one or side A. And yeah, and so stoked to have it. It's the perfect cap, I think.

Perfect ender to a side.

Yeah. So what I want to do is I interviewed Tony yesterday. And I want to chop that in right now because so Tony Cortez, he was the producer on the first Nardcore comp. And then he also put out the Nardcore 30 years later comp that we believe came out in 08 or 09. Yeah, somewhere in there. Yeah. So right now we're going to go to that interview. And then we're going to come back, and we will talk about side B or side 2. Whatever you're into, man. Yeah, whatever your thing is. All

right.

All right, we got it. Go ahead. I

was just going to say, I have no idea what we're... I know you want to talk about the Nardcore album,

but I'm

just going to answer questions because I don't really have anything to

throw out. No, that's perfect. Yeah, so this episode is... We're talking about the new Nardcore comp that we're putting out. And so I wanted to circle back and talk with you because you're actually a producer on the original Nardcore comp.

Yeah, I'm not sure what producer means, but, you know, I... Gathered the whole thing together. I was the one that suggested it and gathered all the bands and put together all the little things that go with it, like the fanzine and all

the pages. Yeah, so did you approach Doug Moody with the idea? Yeah. Okay, and so how did you pitch it to him?

That's funny. I would love to hear what he has to say about that.

We can call

him. Yeah, have you talked to him yet?

He won't do it.

He won't

do it.

It was, you know, things were just flowing right then. And it was just, and I think... Boston, not LA, was the one that made me want to do it. There was other ones. There was the DC comp. But the Boston, not LA, I was so into that. And I was going, we need to do one for this area. And so I talked to a few bands. Let's do it. Let's do it. And then, of course, Doug was totally on board. He was just, do it. Let's do it. And that's the thing about Doug. He gets a lot of shit done.

The problem is, though, he's at that point probably, what, 55? Yeah. And you guys are like children,

right? Yeah, yeah. So he was just, yeah, exactly. Yeah, fuck.

I mean, and you never know when you're an adult. I mean, obviously I'm not 55 yet, but you don't know like, you know, it's just a bunch of kids. You don't know like... oh, that's actually Tony Cortez. He's going to do a bunch of shit. He's going to still be active doing this when you're finally his age. You know what I mean? So whatever. At least he got it out. So how did you start deciding the bands? Yeah, my whole point real quick was he was gung-ho. He was just, yeah, yeah, do it.

We could do

whatever

we wanted there. That was the cool thing about Mystic. He owned that studio. Phil and all them were in-house people. So you could just... Really do whatever you wanted

there. So the project, do you think it started before you did the LP, right? Did you record? Do you remember the sequence scene? I don't remember the sequence scene. What happens next? So you did NARCOR first?

I would think it was the other way around, but I'm not sure. So right around the same time.

You think NARCOR is maybe late 84? Everything was so

close. Everything was really

close. So you obviously have the bigger, more established bands. Yeah. Aggression, The Rotters, you guys, Stalag, some of the other bands they were pulling in, what were they doing at the time? That

was the main thing. And probably the biggest setback to me was it was my universe.

Sure.

You know what I mean? So there's probably a ton of bands that should have been on there that... we, uh, that I didn't get on there.

But you have some bands that are so important because, or it's so important to get them on. Like you have the AFU, you have the habeas corpus. And like, these are some of their only songs that ever made it to record. Right. Right. And they were active. Like, and probably

the reason I chose them was they were active. Right. As I was compiling everything together, they were the active bands and they were, they were in my site, in my universe, whatever. But there's bands like, I wish were on there. Like MIA from Ventura. Um, It's a couple of others, some Ohio bands, and I

can't even think off the top of my head. And was there just not space, or did you not ask them?

Back then, yeah, there wasn't space. I

mean, we

could have did one song each, but I really wanted to follow the format of, I think, Boston, not LA, had like two songs each. Have a nice little chunk. Yeah,

yeah. No, I think it's cool. I think it... I mean, obviously, it came out with a perfect comp. Except the Rotter songs kind of suck.

But you had the Rotter songs. Wash my hands, wash my hands. That

song's cool. I don't know. I know it's 84, but the homophobia stuff is a bummer.

I know, but you know what? I don't think they meant it. It's kind of like Sid Vicious wearing the swastika. Sure. It was just... You just did it back then. Shock value to just be snotty little kids. And I don't know. I just have this affinity for the Rotters because I think when you were talking to Big Bob, you talked about how hard it was back then for them, always going against.

Their second 7-inch is one of my favorites ever. The Sink the Whales. Oh, my God. What a great classic American punk song. You know, so underrated. Sink the whales and buy Japanese girls like the bastards don't like they should. Yeah. So, did every band go in and record a mystic for the first Narcore? I'm

pretty sure they did. There may be a track or two on there. I'd have to look at it, but... I'm pretty sure they all came, went in and recorded it.

Yeah. Yeah. And what was the reaction like when the album came out? Like to like all your buddies in LA and stuff where they're like, this is rad.

I think

so. I really, like

back then things just were going. Everything was just a fricking whirlwind back then. So I don't even think I paid attention, but it was, I know it went over really good and everybody was like, yeah, fuck yeah, cool. You know?

Yeah. Do you remember how you got Walsby to draw? The cover?

Yeah. That actually might have been Mystic got him to do it. Okay. Not to say that. Because I actually had some sketches. I had some other guys do it. I think Chewy actually did one. Okay. Did he do the Nardcore

on the back? Is that Chewy?

No. Like the three-dimensional? I'm pretty sure Philco put that together.

Oh,

really? That's a Philco thing? Yeah. I think Phil just kind of did it cut and

paste type thing. That thing's amazing.

You know what? I didn't like it at first. No? Now I love it. Matter of fact, we just got a new banner made for Ill Repute, and it

has that.

That one.

Like, real, like, lightly in the background.

Oh, cool.

With the Ill Repute and the old school logo on it. It's a big fucking 12-foot banner James Swanson from Screaming Images made us. Yeah. It's freaking amazing. It's like, we'll only be able to use it, like, in the Ventura Theater or, you know, big places.

I know. Or you've got to have really strong duct tape. Yeah. You know? That was the hardest thing I remember on tour. Cause we would just make a banner out of a bed sheet and then we like spray painted Oxnard sign and he control on it. But if you can't find good duct tape, you're fucked.

Yeah.

Like remember the grim at Alpine. Yeah.

I think that was the, it was like 30 feet, man. And that

was just

a big

giant sheet spray

painted.

Yeah. So, so that's an archer comp in the eighties. Fred does one in the nineties localism. And then you're a part of that too.

Oh, real quick. Back to the cover. Sure. We were talking about the cover. Um, The original concept was Moses holding these tablets. I've got that somewhere, too. I've got all the original artwork. And I was supposed to say, like, in the beginning, God created an art course. I had it all. I had it sketched out. I had Chewie or somebody else sketch it out. I actually really wanted that.

Oh, my God. We've got to make a shirt of that.

I'll find it. I'll send you a picture of it. But, yeah. And I think, yeah, Mystic got Walsby, which I was totally on board with. I love Walsby's drawings and stuff. And then I just went from there. And I remember he was really pissed because he drew it in pencil. Okay. And then it was too light. So instead of hitting him up to redo it, they had somebody. Oh, they had someone marker his own shit? They had somebody go over the whole thing.

yeah yeah so what i consider the second narco comp is fred's localism in the 90s

true yeah yeah you're right you're right

yeah and you were a part of that and uh I mean, you got roots on it. My favorite punk lyrics ever. Oh, nice. I mean, that was a really, really cool comp. And Fred did a good job of packing it deep.

Oh, yeah. Fred always does a great job.

Yeah. And it's a... a pretty all encompassing comp, but at the time there was like a little bit of drama and not all the bands got on.

I mean, you're never, you're always going to get that. Yeah. It's impossible.

No, I know. I know. You know, well, we just did it. Yeah. It's hard because yeah, you have a limited amount of time and you know, we kind of took the opposite approach of what you were taking for the NARC or 84 with you wanted to like, give sufficient time to bands. And for us, we wanted to like get enough on there. So we had to say like under two minutes, you know, if it's over two minutes, can't guarantee you're on the comp. Zach told us 45. Oh God. I know. I know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I really think it was late. I wish it came out. We missed like the Burning Dog. I know Stu did a compilation with all that stuff.

Yeah, it's coming out next. It will be out by the time this pod's out.

But it would have been nice to do it like... Like five or ten years earlier. But

Fred got Burning Dog. Fred got Burning Dog, Clench Fist. Yeah. But, I don't know. I think you did a really interesting time. Like, looking back on it now. At the time, I was like, man, this is actually not a good time to document the scene. I know. You know? But... But

for me, the timing was right to do it. I think I just got a bonus check at work and just put all that money into it.

Yeah, and Jerome was a nice contact to help out. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And holy fuck.

Jerome took it to another level. Jerome was responsible for that packaging.

The packaging on that record is the most insane packaging I've ever seen. So if you guys listening don't have it, you should get it just for that fact. It's like... What is it? It's a Gayfold LP with a mounted CD inside?

Yeah, Gayfold LP with pictures of all the Nardcore tattoos, quotes from people about Nardcore, which nobody ever talks about. But to me, that's a really cool part of the album.

Totally.

You've got Henry Wallace talking about Nardcore. You've got Ian McKay giving a little quip on Nardcore. But... What were we talking about? So, yeah, Jerome was really responsible. He took that packaging to the next level.

Yeah.

That was really

cool. Yeah. And then you were able to do the CD, which was able to have even more songs from more bands.

Oh, and my thought behind this whole thing, too, was it was right when CDs were dying out.

Yeah.

And I was going, it can't be a CD... And LPs weren't quite... They weren't back yet. It was like the weird gray area. It was a really rough time. So I really wanted a great packaging because my whole thing is, you know, everybody's downloading now. You want something that people want to hold and people want to own because... It has the fanzine. It has the gatefold with all the pictures. And then Jerome made it that thick vinyl. Actually, Jerome was the one who made it the gatefold.

Yeah, I wish I would have thought about that mounted CD thing. I was like, that's the best idea ever. Because then you could have just... Sold LPs with a mounted CD forever and not have to be CD or LP.

Right, right. He didn't actually think of that, but he worked at Rainbow Records where he saw all that shit coming through. And I think it was a new thing to him, too. He goes, look what this person did. And we're just both like, that's fucking amazing. Yeah. Let's do that.

Yeah, yeah. And so one weird thing about that comp, though, which I think is so rad, is you call it Nardcore 30 years later. But it was like the 25-year anniversary, but you're actually going back five more years to shout out to the Rotters.

To shout out to Rotters and really Gresham, too, before

Gresham.

Gresham was out there. They were 70. What were they, 79? Bob was saying

78. 78,

79. So that's like the same time as Rotters. Rotters were 77, 78. So, yeah, that's what I kind of like.

I think that's so cool. Because, I mean, that is this, right? We always throw back. Yeah,

even though the term didn't go all that far way back, the actual music scene did.

Yeah. And you wrote new Ill Repute songs for that record as well.

Yeah. And those songs were good. Oh, thank you. One of them we played a lot. This other one just never made it past that comp. Yeah. We never played it live, really. And the second

one we played a lot. Yeah. It's fucking cool. I can't remember what song it was. Me neither. Yeah. I need to pull the CD out and listen to it in my car. But so then we did this one, the Narcor for Life, which is what we're considering the fourth Narcor.

Dude, it's going to be amazing. Yeah. From everything I've heard, it's

freaking badass. Yeah. Well, we just did it to get a new Ill Repute song. You know? Like, what do we got to do to get a new Ill Repute song? And he did it. And the song's awesome. Knocked it out of the park. Nice thing. Yeah. And it was rad because, like, you know, the demos for it sounded good. But you guys... I don't know. You guys hit it out of the park at the end. It came together really quick.

Yeah, well, that's where I'm really fortunate. I bring this lump of clay to these guys. And the both bands I'm in, I do that. And I bring this lump of clay. Yeah, we should say Robot Uprising. Robot Uprising, yeah. So I bring this lump of clay, which I think is a decent song. And then those guys just turn it into way more past my expectations. Like John totally... livened up those vocals yeah just made him his own yeah and i freaking loved it

yeah and i i hate distorted vocals but it like works on that like little intro part

oh right with the thing yeah yeah because that wasn't it was kind of a weird part where john wasn't sure what to do during practice and during those demos i sent you which was just live practice yeah um It was just always kind of like, eh.

Yeah, but it ended up being perfect, like how it is.

Yeah, I think John had that idea to his head, but also Armand suggested it. At the same time, John was like, yeah, I was thinking that. It's kind of a cliche thing, a radio EQ, I think they call

it. Sure. But it's cool. How did it feel to be back in the studio after

10 years? Matter of fact... Before that, I mean, it just felt great to get together and...

Be creative.

Be creative and try some new songs. And then when we were doing that, thanks to you, Jim was like, well, I got this one. And we nailed this one. We started practicing it. And then we're like, okay, let's start. Let's do this every week. And let's come up with a bunch of songs and do a new album. Unfortunately, it never went any further. It hasn't gone any farther yet. But we will, because everybody's busy doing things.

Yeah, you got it. I mean... You got to do another record. You got to get Sleepwalking 4 out there. You know? It's a very interesting one to think about. Yeah. I was listening to Transition recently, and there's some gems on there. Like, Sleepwalking 3 is so underrated. I think it's got way too much reverb on it or something. Maybe, but it's a little spooky. A little spooky of a song, right? I think we were trying to go to real total TSOL on that one.

What do you use now that rainbows?

Not my problem. Mandela figured it out. He's

fucking awesome. There's a ton out there, but Rainbow is one we all use. No,

I know. I mean, that's a problem right now, figuring it out, because Revelation Records has used Rainbow for 20 years, something. These people have real good working relationships, and they're gone. It's pretty gnarly. But so is the music business.

Oh, you know what? Going back to that Nardcore 30 years later, one of the big problems with that was right after it came out, I would say at least half the bands broke up. Right after it came out, I was like, oh my God, this album has no legs. And then right after it came out and then a month or two later, almost every band was out.

Well, Retaliate is still around. Yes, yes. But... And I

gave you Box's take on tour, right? Yeah, you gave

me records. I would say that if there is a knock on this one that we're doing, it would be that we didn't put a shit ton of really young bands on. Maybe it's leading a little older. But part of that is because it's a legacy thing and I'm trying to represent... I mean, legit four or more generations of musicians. And it's scary to put too much of the young stuff on because the bands break up.

Yeah. And as things grow, it's just... every project's probably harder and harder.

Yeah.

Like, the first one was almost a no-brainer. I know I missed a lot, but there still was just a small pool to choose from.

Sure.

The second one, there was a lot larger pool, and we just did what we could. And this one, I mean, not the second one. I mean, I'm missing Fred's and Stu's in between those. But, and then this one you're doing, I mean, it's just, it's an infinite amount.

Yeah, yeah. I think we got 25 bands on the vinyl and, like, another 15 on the digital. So... But Stu's comp is massive. You've got to see it when it's done. So it's wild. Because his thing is a full cassette comp of all the 90s stuff.

One cassette?

It's going to all fit on one. Because I think he found somewhere that you could have like 50 minutes on each side or 45 minutes on each side. So it would be an hour and a half. Someone vacuuming? Yeah. Is that what that is? Yeah. Wow. So... Well, that's what I wanted to get from you, Tony. Okay. Yeah. Anything else you got?

No. Like I said, I didn't prepare for anything. No. I was just going to answer your questions and stuff.

Yeah. Like I said, we were just doing this whole episode on the new Narcor comp, and I wanted to get a little bit of that flavor from the...

So on the new Narcor comp, who are some of the newer bands you got?

Oh, God. Put me on the spot like that. Of course, Civil Conflict, right? I mean, just off the top of my head. Yeah, of course, Civil Conflict's on there. But that was my whole point. If there's another comp, it's probably going to...

guys are so active and so like the new people of the scene

uh-huh

they're they're gonna be the ones that put out the new one no agreed agreed

i mean and and honestly like they're a band that even in like their short existence right now they've like made a stamp enough that they're important that even if they broke up tomorrow i'd want them on the comp right right like there's someone that you need to document um Well, Three Day Holocaust. I don't know. Are they considered young? I don't really consider them young. They're like 30 now, right? They're like 30. Dead Heat is young, but they're like pushing 32. Are they really?

30-year-olds. Well, I don't really mean young age-wise, but as in new to the scene, newer bands.

Oh, out of trust. They

missed both

of the check marks. Combat Shock is new. That's a Dead Heat side project. D-Beat Band. Detoxy.

Those guys are taking off

too, man. Detoxy with the only over two minute song.

Really?

Yeah. So, I mean, they kind of took the gamble. We were able to say, everyone try to keep it on two. And then when we added it all up, we're like, we got three minutes. What's up, Detoxy? Oh, so nice. Yeah, so we got them on, which is great.

And how long is their song?

240. And they're the only, I think they're the only song that's over.

I remember It Reputes was like pushing two minutes, and we were going, well, we'll just hit up another band and say, hey, is your song like less than two minutes? We need your 15 seconds. We're going to submit together. We need your 15 seconds.

Yeah. Well, we joked about like, just because there was a few bands that came in at like, 203 or 205 or whatever and we're just like let's just blow up their song in the two minute mark put an explosion

that's it

but yeah

um robot uprising the song we did

uh-huh

was actually like a three three and a half minute song maybe it was twice as long and

you cut it down

yeah we just we just start cutting it and we start playing it and then we're just like going I fucking like it way better. Yeah. You just cut out all the fat. The song just drives now.

It's a great song. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I mean, it was interesting, too, because I work with Max, and no motive doing another two-minute song is hard, too. Exactly. And, I mean, they got it in there, you know? It's like, we just got to cut out a bridge, you know? You have your little intro, verse, chorus, verse, chorus. Yeah. Cut the bridge.

Yeah, with the Robot Uprising song, we go, okay, we do this twice. No, let's only do it once each time instead of twice. Yeah.

And...

And yeah, we cut about a bunch of shit. Yeah. It's cool.

And then we were talking about, okay, so now when we play it live, we're going to play it back the old way. And I'm just like, no, I love it this way. It's just fucking just direct.

You got to play it the way that people are going to know it, you know? So yeah, I think everything came out good. It's a, it's definitely, it'll take you on a journey, you know, from different, you know, it goes from no motive to like a band like Sordo, which is like a, a grind core type band. Yeah. They're, They're pretty wild.

And they're from?

Oxnard. Everyone. And surrounding areas. And surrounding areas, of course. So like Slow Bleed, they're Santa Paula. Any Santa Barbara? Yes. Down Presser and Minus are both. Yeah. And that was like one of the victories of this comp for me is like those bands have always been there and they've never like really called themselves an hardcore. I'm like, you guys are a part of this. This is like, you know. The Ventura County scene in Santa Barbara.

That always bugged me that people were kind of like, we're not in hardcore. I was like, well, hardcore's not a thing that you're not. It's just kind of like a...

Yeah, you are whether you like it

or not, dude. Sorry. It's like saying, I'm not a human being. No, it's just the music from this area is all it means.

Especially because Santa... Yeah, and Santa Barbara has always been so integral because from my generation having the living room and so forth. Like, that club was so important for us to go to shows to. Oh, yeah. There would be long streaks of no club here. And, like, basically, the whole Narco scene is based out of Santa Barbara.

Yeah, I remember. Yeah, that was the only place for a while.

Yeah, and then, like, I mean, in your day, you had the community center and so forth, but you still went to Goleta and Casa de la Raza and so forth. Yeah, but even those other places were short-lived or real choppy. Yeah. You could do it. Yeah. So it was fun to get them on. And, yeah, we... I tried to spread it out to see me, but I think I booted that band for some reason, but not for the pod. But yeah. Yeah, I remember someone was telling me about that. Sorry, dudes. But yeah.

Oh, my God. They were super important. Look

at them now. Yeah.

They were more. But what about Newberry Park? Did you get out that far at all?

I don't know if there's anyone from Newberry Park.

I think that's the farthest. Yeah.

Yeah. I think that... I don't know where all the Dead Heat guys are. They're like pretty spread out. So I think the Singer lives in Oxnard. The... guitarists in ventura and then i think the other dudes there might even be a couple guys that live in the valley

oh that was a regret of the first hardcore comp is rf7 okay they were from kind of that newberry park okay ish area and they weren't in my radar i didn't you know and they were all they're old school they're like they're they're probably before came out before dr no and you know repute and all them like Rotter's Aggression and then RF7 and they have that old school sound and that was a big regret not getting them on there and I heard later through the grapevine that they were upset they didn't

would

have

had

them on there

But you personally didn't know him at the time? No. Yeah. Well, so how do you reach out? I know, exactly. You know? You're supposed to, like, leave the address on their record and just go knock on the door, you know?

Right, right. Yeah, hey, would you like to be on my phone? Get out of here. Get the fuck out of here.

Yeah. Well, Tony, it's been great having you. Oh, thanks for having me, man. And we've got to keep having you. Sure, sure. But, yeah, thanks so much. Anytime. Thanks, man.

Okay.

All right. That was cool getting Tony's take, huh?

Tony. Tony,

man. Tony, see the fucking man. Tony, see the fucking man. Yeah. All right. Let's do Storytime with Forrest. And let's do it. Let's go. All right. We're back with another Storytime with Forrest. And keeping up with the theme of last month, I believe you have a twofer again?

Oh, yeah. Well, actually, the first one is just a little side note because we were just recently discussing... Rob Calvert and how one of the things about him is at shows, he was the outgoing one. He's the one that always wanted to meet everybody and go backstage. And I was always like, dude, you're fucking such a tourist, right? That's so fucking lame.

He

did tell the story on the pod. One of these days, Forrest, you've got to listen to a podcast. You might enjoy it.

I don't have cable. This is actually a recent story I just thought was funny. It was on my birthday. My awesome girlfriend, Angela... took me to go see at the Ronald Reagan library. They were doing a Da Vinci exhibit. Cause I'm a huge fucking Da Vinci nut. I fucking love Da Vinci. So I told her, I'm like, okay, so it's my birthday. We're going to go see the Da Vinci stuff. I'm all, but it's my birthday. I have to get at least one picture of me pretending to do drugs off of Nancy Reagan's grave.

I

was like, but this is going to be the last thing we do. Cause we're probably going to get fucking kicked out. Right. So last thing we do, I can go pretend like I'm fucking doing blow off Nancy Reagan's grave. I mean, you have to, right. So we do the whole tour. We like went on air force one and Marine one did the whole thing. I was like, all right, We're going to do it. We're going to get kicked the fuck out of this place. Dude, I could have really done fucking drugs off Nancy Reagan's grave.

Hey, there's always next birthday. Yeah, yeah. You know? It could be a yearly pilgrimage. We all pitch in. The Reagan Library. Yeah, we all get. Yeah, I will do. Patreon on the back of Coke. Patreon for an eight ball. Hey, Patreon, smash that. Smash that Patreon. Let's give Forrest an eight ball. What the fuck?

Yeah, yeah. I'll start doing drugs

one day a year.

Okay. Oh, that's

fine. All right. L to the X. Oh, yeah. All right, so side B on the NARCOR for life comp. Let's go right into it. Well, what can you say, dude? The goat retaliates. Oh,

I forgot. Oh,

that goat.

But yeah, here's our song, The Real Enemy. And this was fun to write. I'm glad that this comp was here because I was actually just having really bad writer's block in this song. I was having trouble sequencing it into our LP. So it was fun because I think it's a really good standalone song. And, uh, lyrically I'm proud of it. Um, it's just a good retaliation song in my opinion.

I think it is very good. Very, very good. It rules.

Thank you. Yeah. Um, and it's about like, uh, it's another unity song, right? Like it's about people that like want to nitpick every little part of people because they're insecure with themselves. Um, when really people that go to shows, they're already halfway there. You can have disagreements with people in punk and hardcore, but those people, they're on your side. They're already a misfit. They're already like... There's something like... a little counterculture in their head.

it's great as always single kick single kick pedal yeah

he's stripped down to a single kick for

his head up single kick

yeah this is actually a roger standalone banger is it so usually roger will like come up with something and then like we all get our hands on it and this is like Well, you

were pressed for time, too, on it, right?

Yeah, well, the one thing I added was the, like, I like to call it, like, the nard stomp. You know when it goes like the dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun? Because, like, you know, we used to do that in control and shit. I just added that part, and then, like, Verity's line over

it is fucking hilarious. Dude, Verity's fucking vocals are my favorite, dude.

Or go fuck yourself.

It's so

ignorant, dude. Fight the real enemy, or go fuck

yourself.

It's fucking awesome. And you say foo in this song. Shout

out to foo.

I say foo and pussy. This song's borderline problematic, but it's

fine. Dude, we can't have all these words taken from us. No. If we let them take pussy, they're going to take foo next.

Yeah, you don't want food anymore. No. That's the word I say the fucking most. Yeah, it's the staple in 805. It is, dude. It's crazy.

But cool. It's all context. And the context of you using that word is not negative. No, it's not. It's exactly how I explained it. It's people that are too scared to take on real causes and put themselves out there so they want to nitpick the man next to them at the show. Go for the low-hanging fruit when there's far more problems that we should have. face together instead of you

on your separate little attack.

I think that's a really brilliant way to put it, Joe. The low-hanging fruit, right? There's so much real injustice in this world. Why are you fucking nitpicking bullshit? We do need to come together and fight the real enemy. Especially when there's no actual intention behind that in some negative context towards a person or a group of people. Yes. So, yeah. It's a good song. I love it. Thank you so much. It's a great

beginning to Side B. It just punches you in the face.

Yeah. And then you get punched. Yeah. And then again, we get smashed. This one is

a gut punch

on the next song. I know. This is my favorite song on the record. This is Charman with their song Bitter End. And I mean, this is so fucking infectious. Yeah. It's so catchy. It's so catchy. So good. They knocked it out of the park with this

one.

I know. This song is fucking ridiculous. I love the little teaser lead at the end. You think it's going to go, and it doesn't go. But it's actually kind of satisfying. It doesn't anger me.

It's like a little ellipsis at the end. Yeah.

Yeah. What is this? Oh, it's a car outside. That's

crazy.

That is crazy.

Sorry, guys. Yeah. Hey, dude. It's the Avenue. Yeah, it's the Avenue. Shut up. Shut up, Inter Avenue. But yeah, the song rips. And so glad to get this band on the comp because all four guys in this band are awesome. You know, Narcors Stalwarts at this point. Yeah, very important people. Yeah. Maher and Zarian, you know, been around forever. Tony Molino, of course. Yeah. And John Glue. Oh, yeah. Fucking Ray Jor, you know, from Nails and this band. And Feltolo.

Feltolo, Rad.

Yeah. Yeah. So this song rips. It's my favorite song on the record. We'll see what you guys think. Yeah. And then going right into the next one, this is another fun one, just how we were talking about we really wanted to get that repute song. We got a new No Moda song. Oh, my God. Fucking awesome. And again, I work with Max, so he was talking a lot. Like a lot of people on this record, it was a challenge to do a two-minute song.

too early.

No, it's a fully formed, fucking perfect no-motive song.

Two minutes on the nose and just... Yeah, it's so perfect.

It's amazing that they were able to put this together... And still sound like themselves. Still sound like it would fit on a record from the early 2000s. On

Daylight Breaking. Daylight Breaking, yeah, in my opinion.

Yeah, and that Jer's voice sounds this good after not being active. Yeah. You know? Right. And, I mean, I just, I... I can't believe that Max can pull little riffs like that out of his ass. That

riff,

every time I hear it, I just get chills.

So good. And

the vocals come in, and

it's a good song. When Motive did those reunion shows last November, I drove Jared down to the Chain show, so it was just me and Jeremy. And he played me Max's... His demo version. His demo version and then saying in the car what it's going to be. I'm like, oh, my God. This is going to be amazing. You should have videotaped that for the Patreon show. Yeah, I should have. Next time I'll think about that. That's an awesome experience, though. That's the shit you remember, huh? Yeah. It was great.

Roger's production behind it and all that.

And this is them recording for the first time with Pat. Yeah, that's

right. It's Pat playing drums again.

Because they remixed and remastered Sadness Prevails, and they put out a bonus 7-inch, but the bonus 7-inch was an acoustic 7-inch. Yeah. So Pat's not playing on it. I don't think. Is there drums? Yeah, there's the one song, the reimagined song off Let It Go Zone.

No.

I don't know. I didn't buy it. Hey, dude, I got no shame, I'll tell you. I went through the cart process, and by the time I was done buying, that shit was going to cost me like 46 bucks or some shit. It

was broken and burned. okay they did a reimagined version of

broken yeah it's tuned down and it's which was on

um uh diagram

okay and that's pat playing on that too okay sweet yeah i have because i mean i just really wanted the seven inch because those are songs that i don't have but i don't need the lp i have the lp so i'm not gonna pay 46 bucks or whatever for a seven inch like i don't know it was expensive when they add in shipping and everything but you got

a t-shirt out of it too so

Yeah, like I'm going to squeeze into a large.

I got a double

X. Like I'm going to squeeze into a large. Oh,

yeah. Shout out to Dead Heat's triple X merch. Exactly,

exactly. Awesome. Yeah, so, and then, you know, in a wild transition, we go from no motive Archangel to sort of glove flavored. Dude. has there ever been a left turn so hard and fast outside

of nastar this is a wild transition from a comparing the two i'd say overproduced song into song with one mic in a garage yeah and i wouldn't have it any other fucking way yeah it captures sort of as a band um The song is lightning fucking fast. Well, let me back it up. So the intro is from the video game on Nintendo 64 called 1080, the snowboard video game. And they use that as the menu music. And yeah, just goes into fucking lightning fast and then sick ass mosh part. And then you're done.

Yeah.

Out

of there. He's like, here you go, later.

Because it hits you like a ton of bricks. It's going

to be really interesting

to hear how Paul masters that in with everything else completely. I know, I know. Paul Miner's doing the mastering, by the way. Yeah, did it. But that's probably why maybe it took a little extra time. Yeah, probably. It's like, where do we go with this sort of track? Yeah. I don't know. But it's good, and it's a representation of, you know, again, what you guys are trying to capture here. That is part of our scene. Everything's going on. Yeah.

And also, too, it's like, that's like a show in the 805, you know? You could go see Sordo and then, like, a pop punk band or, you know? Oh, in the same bill. Yeah, like, right after each other. So it's just like, it's almost like the record is, like, just one thing. Big show.

Yeah, one big show or one big representation. This is literally a representation of what's going on. Like, all these bands can be on one show.

Hell yeah. Now, this next one is probably my second favorite song on the record. Minus with Bonded. And it's like, they took every type of part I like in every hardcore song ever and smooshed it into one song. Like, they hit, like, every tempo and every, like, wild man part.

It's a perfect hardcore song.

Yeah. And then, like, that final, like... super short, like mosh is just full slammies. Yeah. Full beating. And, uh, this is awesome. And, and I was, I was so stoked to do minus and down presser on the comp because, you know, the original Narco comp, the idea behind it was Oxnard hardcore bands and surrounding areas. So you had RKL like representing like Santa Barbara Montecito area. And then you had scared straight out in the Simi Valley.

Right. For a good amount of time. Yeah, for long

stretches. And then some of the bands from up there are influenced by bands from here. And definitely vice versa. And I love that of all the old Nardcore bands, that RKL is the riffiest and maybe the most talented. And I love that I feel the same way about... I mean, jumping ahead, that's how I feel about Downpresser, even though Downpresser and RKL sound nothing alike. Nothing. But they are still like riff masters and maybe the most talented. Yeah. You know what I mean?

for sure. And Fly

Sweater. This Minus song is my favorite song on the comp. Is it? Yeah. Hell yeah.

It's so fucking good. Just how the drums

come in. After the Sordo song and just hearing those drums and the riff too. And his voice is just... Pissed?

Yeah. He's pissed, dude. He's so mad, dude. He's such a low-key pissed guy. I love him. Shout out, Travis. Oh, yeah. But, yeah, that makes me feel good that that's your favorite song on the record, because it's legitimately... I mean, it would be my favorite song on the record for sure if that Charm Man song wasn't, like, my favorite song in the fucking world.

You know what I mean? I know it's a hard one, because

that Charm Man song is just... I can agree with those two being the best.

Yeah.

You're Team No Motive, right? I'm Team Omega Point. Oh. Yeah. That song is so good. I like that song. So good. I like that song. It's so good. It's a good song. And my backups. Oh, yeah. Your backups. Yeah, dude. Hey, episode one and the Fred phones kind of put it over. Yeah, we had

to pull you out of the studio to do it. We're like, come on, Joe. You're like, nah, nah, nah. It's good.

You make him sign a waiver? Yeah. Yeah. Where's

my points?

With you guys talking about the solo on the Combat Shock record, I think the fucking solo kings of this record is the Slow Bleed song. Slow Bleed Trust. And I love how the one solo goes and then the other one just fucking torches it. The Slow Bleed solos. Logan is an insane guitar player. Okay. Is it one dude? Yeah. So it's one guy playing the same solo. Yeah. Because it has the feeling of like a slayer-y, how it's like, you know, hand them in one side and hang on one side.

Yeah.

Anyway, sorry. But these are battling good solos, but apparently from the same guy. So shout out to the soloer. He wins. And this song's rad.

Yeah, it's a heavy ass song. And it's also cool that they're like the only band from Santa Paula.

Yeah, shout out Santa Paula Hardcore. Another

win. Yeah, straight up. So rad,

dude. That's great.

Who's going to step up next, dude?

that band for sure I can't think of, like, much else. Like, Shear, I know that there's some members that are based out of there, too. But it's, like, a lot of, like, shoegaze-y type

of

stuff.

Fillmore. There's a couple of bands out of Fillmore that are, like, newer, that are younger kids. Like, Bare Minimum, right? Bare Minimum is Oxnard Cameo. Okay.

Yeah, we need some Fillmore bands. We need some Somis bands.

Murmur. They're from Fillmore.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, shout out Murmur, Fillmore. Yeah, we need some Fillmore bands, Somus bands, some... Nylon Acres.

Yeah? Dude, the Nylon Acre, have you ever seen that? It was like, I think they made shirts. It was Nylon Acre, but in the negative approach ripoff. Wow. Yeah, it was dope.

We need a band from Berry Street. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Shout out to Kiki, my coworker.

Hell, yeah.

Yeah.

yeah, slowly. The song is fucking a ripper. It's probably the heaviest song on the record. It is. Um, and so again, just like we're, we're pushing all the edges and, uh, this, this was just a really nice addition. The song came out fucking great. Um,

Taylor Young recorded this song.

Yep. Taylor Young production. And, uh, He did a fucking great job, like he always does, right?

Yeah. And I should add, Taylor also recorded the Charm Man song, which is really cool, because Taylor is very specific when it comes to heavy music. That's all he pretty much records. And

him doing that Charm Man song, I believe he did the whole LP. He did the whole LP. I have it. Fucking sick. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, I mean, it's him showing that he's not only one of the best... medley, hardcore engineers out there, but he can knock out all styles because the Charm Man record sounds fucking great. Yeah, both

songs sound really, really well. They sound really good.

Yeah, for sure. We talked about them a little bit already, but the next song is Downpresser. And they do another, I guess, the other aspect of the comp. Mm-hmm. Not an original. They do a cover. They cover In Control, Where the Glory Lies. And basically, they just put out their LP.

you going to do that?

Well, you have a mind as brilliant and creative as the fucking Downpresser guys, so they turn it into a fucking crazy song. But again, like, I think that they're... You know, they have a certain... Like... They want to do something with the proper respect, and they don't know you as well, so who knows? They're cutting out parts, or they're not going to put enough time into it that they feel it's up to par. So they went with this song because they could just...

It's the perfect song for that band.

Yeah. I think that if we didn't talk about it, I think a lot of people would just think it's a down-pressing song. Absolutely.

Yeah, they did a really good job of making it their own.

Yeah, I agree. They certainly

owned it.

Yeah, I mean... Dan's vocals sound fucking amazing. Dan's vocals sound amazing. And they did glory to the song. I mean, obviously, they did it better than we did it. But that's not... The bar was low. But yeah, super stoked to have them do the song. I think it sounded... It came out great. And very, very flattering that they wanted to do that. So there's that. Moving on to the band that's like lighting the fire under everyone's ass in the scene. Still, Civil Conflict.

It's catchy. It hauls ass.

Yeah.

And the bass line is so good.

The bass line is so good. The lyrics are so good. Like, basically... It's just saying once you hear the music, you're hooked. Once you skateboard, you're hooked.

Yeah, basically. You all know that feeling. I'm going to like all of this stair set, and all these things are going through your mind.

Yeah.

And that song captures it. Yeah,

so cool.

Them as a band is just so good. The bass solo into the car solo is just like, it's fucking perfect. It's so perfect. They nailed it.

Yeah, well... There's got to be a bass solo on an Arco record, right? I mean, Circle of Fear, that's a high bar. But this is sick as fuck. And yeah, I mean, dare to say their best song, you know, in my opinion. So far. I love the CD that they put out. Super rad, but this song is just catchy and infectious. And I love when some people are like, this is going to sound, I don't know how this is going to sound. Like when you stay in your lane sometimes, right? So it's like I'm a young man.

all they do. It rules.

So I love that because it's like there's no one else that comes to a skateboarding song as sincere as a 14 or 15-year-old kid that is skateboarding all the time, right? Yeah. If we'd wrote that shit, it'd be nostalgic outside of Stu. It's probably still doing it every day. I could do a kickflip. Yeah. I can break my hip. So yeah, Civil Conflict. What did we say before? The young princes of hardcore. Yeah. All right. Next up, Fly Swatter with the song

Puerto

Vida. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude. And this song should be just retitled Intro. intro or wait for it dude there's still time title track and wait for it yeah there's time for when we make the limited covers for the show

special editions

but yeah this song is fucking rad because if anything else it's not like anything else

yeah that's like I don't know Flatswater is such a weird band you know like Waka, the lead singer, like, writes everything, and he's, like, he's just sporadic with his writing. He's, like, a really good writer, you know? Yeah. So, like, it was me, him, and my brother working on this song, and I don't know. He just, he's so good at what he does, you know? Like, lyric-wise, you know, and, like, just kind of, like, seeing the song and stuff like that. Like, so it's cool.

that we've

played. And Waka's only singing now, so it's like back to original members, and it's cool. So sick, dude. I love that. It was cool. All for the comp, dude. Bringing people

together. Exactly.

That rules. And I love the song because there is a big, long intro, but then once you're into it, it's like... the song fucking goes for it. Like how, how Stu, you were mentioning like, Oh, it kind of sounds like Bane. I never even thought about that before you said that. And then I was like, well, this actually is really technical.

It's really, the whole song is technical. I get like, well, Vince and I were listening to it and he looks at me and he goes, dude, that sounds like Bane. I was like, dude, that is Bane. And, but in the beginning, the whole song, like the way it breaks out, it's just, it sounds like, like, um, early two thousands, big wig, um, yeah

yeah yeah it's like you're right it's like it's kind of like that late 90s early 2000s like kind of pop kind of new school yeah band and then like but you're right like bane but then it's like bane smushed into like 45 seconds

yeah

it's so

cool whoa i like how because there's a long intro do you say that's it i say singing you

say singing sing it singing singing yeah Why? It's just like, I don't know. We just thought of it while we were jamming. That's sick. And we were just like, all right. Singing. Yeah. Singing. Fucking tight. It's one of those random things. I like it. Your voice is tight. Yeah, when you guys were tracking it,

to Zach's point about the intro, like, that's really weird you guys are doing that. You know, when he started his vocal, and me and Armand are sitting there like... When's he going to start singing? Where's the parts? It's like a minute into it, into a two-minute song. Yeah,

dude. We're like, okay. Change it up, dude. But that's back to like

Feline on the first record. It's totally different. Long intro. That's what you guys decided to do. And it's a cool idea to throw in there like that.

It's cool to see like... when you listen to these songs to see like how, like, you know, different approaches that everybody took to this, you know, because a lot of people stepped out of their wheelhouse and like, you know, the two minute thing was a hard thing to do for a lot of people, but they all did it and they all killed

it. It worked in the best way. It was like writing under pressure, writing in a time limit

and writing your best song. Yeah, because... Again, full disclosure, every band had about three months to write and record. Yeah. But most did it

the

last week or

whatever. Yeah. Assignments due, motherfuckers. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think that cutting it down, we'll talk about it, the last song on the record, it definitely benefited. Typical. Yeah. The next song, Malice Thoughts, Fuck Tomorrow. Pretty cool song, dude. I like it. It's catchy. Yeah. It's a... Pretty cool. What do you guys think? Yeah. They're great kids. I don't know where they track this. This song was submitted, so I don't

know. It sounds amazing.

Sounds good. The

quality is really good.

Cool to straightforward punk. And then a little melodic on the break.

A little melodic on the break. Chanting gang vocals. Alex Lopete's drumming is really good on this one.

I like his screams, you know? Those big, long screams that are held out just sound like, you know, so like, they're just, they're good screams.

They're good screams. Yeah, I was going to say, that's a, that's a button over

here. That was fucking RKO as fuck right there.

I didn't even

know, dude. Yeah, well, skills. Yeah, Malice Thoughts, fuck tomorrow. This song is cool. Yeah. Moving on to, here's another one. We're, We're roping all the way out to Tehachapi, right? Yeah. I mean, technically, Roger's in the band, so we got one foot in the nard. But yeah, there's no mistaking the bond between Tehachapi and Oxnard. And it can be...

both of them

yeah both sakamoto brothers the younger ones and then uh this guy amun from ohai and then also this dude backdoor matt and uh he there and he was actually from tachipi and then uh I think Andy Diehard got into hardcore through him as well. Or he was, like, the older head up there. Anyway, it's weird that it ties in like that. But, yeah.

I used to live in Tatchby.

There you go. And now Joe's dad, in episode one, his dad lives in Tatchby.

Undeniable unity right

here. You know? Yeah, and then, like, it was funny because the first Diehard UCD, like... There's, like, no cussing on it, except they had Ryan do the cuss vocal part, and he's all, like, he fucking cusses, like, three times, and it's, like, and it's just a mosh call part. It's, like, who the fuck are you to judge me? Who the fuck are you to judge me? You better stop it. You better judge yourself.

Yeah. That's so funny. And then, oh, man. It's so funny. It's so funny. It's so Ryan.

Yeah. And then, you know, the biggest, like, link is, like, of them would be the Warriors starting as a Tachiby band, bringing Javier into the band, and then the Warriors, over time, molding into an Oxnard band that was mostly Oxnard dudes. Except

Joe and Marshall, yeah, right now, right?

What's that?

Except Joe and Marshall right now, right?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. That's what it is. And then there was, I think the third LP was all Oxnard people. It was before Joe was in the band. Before Joe was in the band, right. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah, this is ill communication doing protect your sect. And it's a pretty rad song. It's

a heavy song.

Yeah, it gets heavy as fuck at the end, huh?

Yeah.

I think it's the dude from the movie Life doing guest vocals. Shout out to Vinny Caruana,

right?

It's not written on here. But yeah, I think his name is Vinny. Shout out, Vinny.

Yeah, shout out, movie Life. Shout out.

I am the avalanche. Yeah, his voice sounds fucking amazing. That part is heavy as fuck. It is. But this whole song, it's like... It's a cool, different tempo. Just the

way it comes in. The way it comes in from the previous song, too. It's just like mid-tempo. As you would say,

drivey. Drivey. They do that

really well. The riffs are so sick. Are they drop-tuned? It

sounds like they are on that, right? Yeah, it sounds

like a little drop tune, and it sounds so full.

And the mosh comes out of nowhere. Yeah, you're like, what? Like, we're in a mosh part? What?

You know?

Surprise! Yeah, it sounds like it's going to be like a transition, but then it's like you're fucking in quicksand. You're like, oh, I can't get out of the mosh. You know? We've all been there. Yeah, man. Caught in a mosh. Andy. Yeah, dude. Okay, so the last song on the record. Dude. You've got to open and close with the mayor of Oxnard. Tony C, the fucking man. Yeah, Tony C, the fucking man. This is the Robot Uprising and their song Last Shot.

Last Track. They could change that name, too, if they really want to, for the

comedy. Ooh, if we can get a title

track,

a last track. Ooh!

Yeah, but... I mean, this song is fucking rad. And I think it benefited from having to go through the process of chopping it down. Because Tony said the song started as a three and a half minute song. And they cut it down to two for the record.

It's perfect at the length that it is. So yeah, it's great.

Yeah, it's a fully formed song in two minutes. And it's fucking great. It shows great songwriting. It's super catchy. Everyone's playing. Nice and melodic. Yeah.

Three guitars. Sick. Three guitarists. One of them is from the Weirdos, correct? Yeah.

Yeah. I should mention that the In Control is also three guitarists.

Whoa. Yeah, because what we

didn't know at the time, if we do it again, it's always been a variation of Retaliate playing with me moving over. So we didn't want to give anyone the boot yet. And everyone played on it. Basically. That's dope.

That's sick. Three guitarists? That's the way to go.

That's the way to go. Yeah, three guitarists. I think there's a band from Long Island. They have four guitar players.

Wow. Even sicker. Bad Religion is three. Three. Well, sometimes. If Brett plays on them, it's three. And then Iron Maiden's been three forever. Right. They should be. Yeah. Well, what happened was Yannick Gears came into the band when Adrian Smith left. And then for their album in the year 2000, Brave New World, Bruce Dickinson and Adrian Smith came back as a package deal. But this is... Iron Maiden is the fucking greatest band ever.

bands i gotta say you

guys captured from an outside perspective you guys captured a lot of great stuff just with this even the the young i i get that civil conflict's probably the youngest ones but you know there's still a lot of youth

oriented bands in here so Yeah, Andrew, how old are you? I'm 29.

Yeah, see? Pretty young. That's young. R.I.P., dude. We covered... We pretty

much... We got bands from every generation, you know? And then, too, like, on the digital side, like, Nothing Special, Ghetto Blaster, like, bands that have been, you know... Oh, Ghetto Blaster's on the channel? Yeah, like, all kinds of good stuff is... You know? It's just time

thing, you know? Yeah, so check that out. It's gonna be on Spotify... What is iTunes music? Or Apple music?

Amazon

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Brotherhood, sisterhood, of course. And that's that. So by the record, people, And smash that fucking Patreon button.

Come

on. You guys got anything else? I'm just so excited to be a part of this. Yeah, you want to talk through the outro?

What's up, motherfuckers?

Not going for a

bitch.

Not going for life. Words to live by.

All right. Thanks, guys.