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Uncomfy: Sticking with Moments That Challenge Us

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Real stories from guests who dared to get uncomfortable in a moment that challenged their worldview. In the thick of intense emotions, they chose to stay curious and open, rather than lash out or shy away, and came out the other side with stronger relationships, clearer beliefs, and increased confidence. And you can do it too! So, if you: • Want to engage with others on important topics but aren’t sure how, OR • Are burned out on social media and wish you could bring the humanity back into discussions online or in real life, Look no further! Whether you're a seasoned seeker of new ideas or just dipping your toes into the uncomfy waters, this podcast is your go-to destination for learning how to improve your communication, disagree more productively, and be a more inspired leader. In such a polarized world, we believe learning how to stick with moments that challenge us, without getting defensive or shutting down, is a direct antidote for division. Are you ready to lean in, listen up, and get uncomfy with us? Let's dive in together! Uncomfy: Sticking with Moments that Challenge Us is hosted by journalist Julie Rose and is a BYUradio production. #reallifestories #communication #polarization #relationshipskills #communicationskills #leadershipskills #leadershiptraining #community #communitybuilding #disagreebetter #buildingbridges #perspectives #worldview #resilience #emotionalresiliance #mentalhealth #training #mindfulness #conflictresolution #growthmindset #empowerment #problemsolving #respect #curiosity #activelistening #collaboration
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Episodes

Discomfort is Her Superpower. Here’s Why. — Anne Bonney

What would it look like to dance in the discomfort zone? In this episode of Uncomfy, Anne Bonney—keynote speaker, self-proclaimed “discomfort enthusiast,” marathoner, and podcaster—joins host Julie Rose for a conversation about how choosing discomfort helped her transform her life. From quitting her teaching job to work with sea lions, to running marathons on all seven continents, Anne shares unforgettable stories of risk, resilience, and trusting yourself through uncertainty. Anne Bonney’s webs...

Jul 02, 202520 minSeason 2025Ep. 26

The Walls Between Us: Can We Truly Understand Each Other? – Anand Pandian

Why do we build walls—emotional, social, ideological—and what would it take to break them down? In this thought-provoking episode of Uncomfy, anthropologist Anand Pandian joins host Julie Rose to explore the infrastructure of discomfort in America. Drawing from his new book, “Something Between Us: The Everyday Walls of American Life and How to Take Them Down,” Pandian recounts stories from his journey across America, including attending a Trump victory rally as a liberal, or choosing to reconnec...

Jun 25, 202521 minSeason 2025Ep. 25

How to Have Conversations That Actually Work Even on Hot-Button Issues - Becca Kearl

Becca Kearl had just moved to a new town when she decided to organize a public conversation about one of the most controversial topics: sex education. No formal training. No guarantees. Just a desire to understand her community better. What started as an ambitious idea turned into a surprising and powerful night of connection between people with deeply different beliefs. In this episode of Uncomfy, host Julie Rose talks with Becca about how that first event sparked her career in community dialog...

Jun 18, 202518 minSeason 2025Ep. 24

How Cold, Early Morning Runs Led to a Life-Changing Friendship – Olivia Chadwick and Garnet Morris

Olivia Chadwick was a personal trainer. Garnet Morris was an entrepreneur looking for support as he tried to improve his health. Their early morning runs, often before sunrise in the middle of Canadian winter, became the start of a meaningful friendship and a journey neither of them expected. In this episode of Uncomfy, host Julie Rose talks with Olivia and Garnet about the habits that helped them both through difficult life transitions. Along the way, they discovered the value of coaching, frie...

Jun 11, 202517 minSeason 2025Ep. 23

How Gorillas Helped Me Understand Humans – Dawn Prince-Hughes on Autism & Belonging

Dawn Prince-Hughes spent years misunderstood—ostracized, unhoused, and struggling to find her place in the world. Everything changed the day she met a 500-pound silverback gorilla. In this powerful episode of Uncomfy, Dr. Prince-Hughes shares her extraordinary story of being identified as autistic at age 36—and how her connection with gorillas helped her understand human connection, truth, and herself. She explores what it means to belong, to embrace differences, and to connect on a primal, hone...

Jun 04, 202519 minSeason 2025Ep. 22

She Lost Her Voice. Then She Found Herself. – Greta Morgan

What happens when the thing you’ve built your life around suddenly disappears? Greta Morgan, acclaimed singer-songwriter (The Hush Sound, Springtime Carnivore) and former touring member of Vampire Weekend, faced that terrifying question when she lost her singing voice due to Spasmodic Dysphonia, a rare neurological condition she suspects was triggered by long COVID. In this deeply personal episode of Uncomfy, Greta opens up about the shock of losing her vocal range, the identity crisis that foll...

May 28, 202522 minSeason 2025Ep. 21

The Hidden Heroes of Arlington and What We Miss on Memorial Day – Gary Zelinski

On this special Memorial Day episode of Uncomfy, host Julie Rose sits down with retired U.S. Air Force Intelligence Officer Gary Zelinski, author of “A Walk Among Heroes: Searching for America’s Better Angels,” to discover the hidden stories buried at Arlington National Cemetery. From boxing legend Joe Louis to Audie Murphy’s unsung wife, Pamela Opal Lee, Zelinski shares the deeply personal journeys that led him to uncover the silent heroes of our nation’s military past—and why he believes the f...

May 21, 202516 minSeason 2025Ep. 20

I Forgave My Absent Father. Here’s Why. — Justin Jones-Fosu

Why would someone willingly step into an uncomfortable conversation, especially with someone who’s hurt them deeply? In this episode of Uncomfy, author and meaningful work researcher Justin Jones-Fosu shares the moving story of confronting his absentee father—not to accuse, but to understand. What followed changed his identity, his peace of mind, and even his connection to his heritage. Justin’s book, I Respectfully Disagree: How to Have Difficult Conversations in a Divided World — https://workm...

May 14, 202517 minSeason 2025Ep. 19

A Parent’s Worst Nightmare, and Why She Speaks Out – Dawn Peabody (Kids and Car Safety)

Sometimes the hardest stories are the ones we need to hear most. In this episode of Uncomfy, Dawn Peabody shares the unimaginable loss of her 2-year-old daughter, Maya, who died after being accidentally left in a hot car. Dawn opens up about how she and her husband faced the tragedy, how faith and forgiveness helped them survive, and why she now speaks out in hopes of saving lives. Dawn reminds us that even the most loving, attentive parents can fall victim to distraction—and that we all have a ...

May 07, 202511 minSeason 2025Ep. 18

Dancing in Discomfort: Lessons from a Refugee Advocate – Amy Dott Harmer

What would you do if you had to start over in a new country, far from everything familiar? Amy Dott Harmer has spent a decade answering that question—not for herself, but for thousands of refugees in Utah. As Executive Director of Utah Refugee Connection, Amy shares what it's like to truly show up for people who have lost everything, and how dancing awkwardly in a circle of refugee women taught her one of her most important lessons about empathy, connection, and courage. In this episode of Uncom...

Apr 30, 202518 minSeason 2025Ep. 17

He Lost His Leg. Then He Gained His Purpose. – James Dixon

Born with life-threatening medical conditions and told he wouldn’t survive—let alone walk—James Dixon ultimately had his leg amputated as a child. But through relentless determination, deep faith, and his grandmother’s belief that he was Superman, he transformed what others saw as a disability into his greatest superpower. In this powerful episode of Uncomfy, James takes host Julie Rose through his incredible journey—from being called "crippled" to earning a Division I basketball scholarship and...

Apr 23, 202518 minSeason 2025Ep. 16

“Is God Even Listening?” An Honest Easter Conversation - Reverend Kyle Norman

"Why doesn’t God answer my prayers? Is God even real?" Especially around Easter, when faith is supposed to feel joyful and full, these questions can feel even heavier. In this special Easter episode, host Julie Rose speaks with Reverend Kyle Norman—Rector and Dean of St. Paul’s Anglican Cathedral and author of “Alive, Loved, and Free: Finding Jesus When Faith is Hard.” Together they talk through the hidden struggles of spiritual discouragement, doubt, and the quiet shame that can follow when lif...

Apr 16, 202522 minSeason 2025Ep. 15

The Power of Saving and Suffering a Little – Shang Saavedra

What if a little financial discomfort today could buy you freedom tomorrow? Host Julie Rose talks with Shang Saavedra—founder of Save My Cents and author of Wealth is a Mindset—about how extreme frugality, mindset shifts, and some seriously uncomfortable choices helped her reach financial independence by age 31. Whether you're buried in money stress or just looking for more freedom, this episode is for you. Learn more: https://savemycents.com/ Wealth is a Mindset, available now: https://savemyce...

Apr 09, 202522 minSeason 2025Ep. 14

He Left Mainstream Media to Do News Differently. Here’s What He Learned. – Mosheh Oinounou (Mo News)

Are you tired of not knowing who to trust in the news? In this episode of Uncomfy, journalist and Mo News founder Mosheh Oinounou opens up about why he walked away from a successful career in traditional news media—and what it takes to build trust in today’s broken media landscape. Mosheh shares some of the shortcomings of traditional media, the origin of Mo News during the pandemic, his reasons for now picking a side, and ways we can all stay informed without getting overwhelmed. What does it r...

Apr 02, 202523 minSeason 2025Ep. 13

From Enemies to Allies: Mark Rosenberg and Jay Dickey's Unlikely Friendship

What happens when two people on opposite sides of a heated debate come together? Mark Rosenberg, a gun violence research advocate and former CDC official, and the late Congressman Jay Dickey, a staunch NRA supporter, were once bitter enemies. Their clash over the Dickey Amendment, which halted federal funding for gun violence research, seemed insurmountable. Yet, through a series of candid conversations and shared personal experiences, they discovered common ground and mutual respect. This Uncom...

Mar 26, 202520 minSeason 2025Ep. 12

Challenging the Stories We're Told About Each Other - Traci Ruble

What if the stories we’re told about each other aren’t true? Therapist Traci Ruble doesn’t buy what the media tells her about people—so she took to the streets to find out for herself. She and a group of volunteers set up Sidewalk Talk, an experiment in radical listening: sitting in public spaces with a sign that says Free Listening and inviting strangers to share whatever’s on their minds. It’s raw, awkward, sometimes heartbreaking—but also unexpectedly hilarious and deeply human. In this episo...

Mar 19, 202520 minSeason 2025Ep. 11

Resisting Injustice, Even When It’s Exhausting – Jemar Tisby

What keeps someone going when justice feels out of reach? Historian and bestselling author Jemar Tisby joins us to talk about the spirit of justice—that relentless, unshakable force that calls people to resist injustice, even when the road is long and exhausting. He shares the powerful experience of Myrlie Evers-Williams, a civil rights leader who never stopped pushing for accountability, even when her husband’s killer walked free for 30 years. We also explore the courage of Sister Thea Bowman, ...

Mar 12, 202522 minSeason 2025Ep. 10

How to Stay Politically Engaged When You Feel Like Giving Up – Jennifer Walker Thomas

What's the point of contacting lawmakers and advocating for policies if people in power don't seem to be listening? Jennifer Walker Thomas knows that feeling all too well. In this episode, Jennifer, who co-leads a nonpartisan group advocating for ethical government, shares how leaning into discomfort and choosing to act anyway has helped her and thousands of others find their voices in advocacy, navigate tough political conversations, and create meaningful change—without abandoning kindness. Fro...

Mar 05, 202523 minSeason 2025Ep. 9

Sharon McMahon's Secret to Finding Strength in Tough Conversations and Online Criticism

Sharon McMahon—aka "America’s Government Teacher"—is proving that social media doesn’t have to be a battlefield. Instead, it can be a place for learning, connection, and meaningful conversations. By staying curious—even when facing criticism and controversy—she’s built a large, engaged community that thrives on thoughtful discussion. In this episode, Sharon reveals how one small, fact-based video changed the course of her career, leading her to educate millions about government, history, and civ...

Feb 26, 202526 minSeason 2025Ep. 8

Lessons in Aging, Patience, and Compassion – Scottie Gassner

Aging is a natural part of life, but it can bring challenges—especially when it comes to caring for elderly loved ones. In this episode, Scottie Gassner reflects on how his relationship with his aging parents shifted after working with his longtime client, Dave, who started training with him at 79. Over the course of their 12 years together, Scottie saw firsthand the realities of aging—both the struggles and the small victories. That experience gave him a new perspective on what it means to grow...

Feb 19, 202515 minSeason 2025Ep. 7

Why We Get So Angry (and How to Fix It) – Kurt Gray

Ever had a moment where you were certain you were in the right—only to realize the other person felt just as strongly that they were the real victim? That’s exactly what happened to psychologist Kurt Gray. As a teenager, Gray nearly caused a car accident while driving with his friends. What followed was an explosive confrontation—one fueled by outrage and the deep conviction that each party had been wronged. That heated moment didn’t just shake him—it sparked a career-long fascination with moral...

Feb 12, 202526 minSeason 2025Ep. 6

Turning Pain into Purpose Through Art - James Rees

How do we navigate life’s unexpected twists? For nationally recognized artist and educator James Rees, the answer lies in embracing discomfort and using creativity as a tool for growth. In this episode, Rees shares how his art explores themes of burdens, resilience, and support—and how one deeply moving moment at an art show changed his perspective on the power of connection and healing. When a woman purchased one of his pieces to honor her sister who died by suicide, Rees saw firsthand how art ...

Feb 05, 202516 minSeason 2025Ep. 5

Tips for Managing Tough Conversations About Faith and Politics – Kaitlyn Schiess

Kaitlyn Schiess (Curiously Kaitlyn, The Holy Post) opens up about a pivotal conversation with someone at her church that reshaped how she approaches the tricky intersection of politics and faith. She dives into the power of asking meaningful questions to get at the heart of others—even when beliefs feel under attack. Sharing stories from her own journey of teaching kids in church, wrestling with tough theological questions, and navigating heated debates about the Bible and American politics, Sch...

Jan 29, 202523 minSeason 2025Ep. 4

How a Partnership Can Survive Political Disagreements – Pantsuit Politics (Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers)

Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers, political commentators and co-hosts of the Pantsuit Politics podcast, reflect on a pivotal moment in their professional partnership during the 2016 presidential election. Holland had worked on Hillary Clinton's campaign and was a big fan of the candidate. Silvers was not. It was a tough one to navigate - and it was right at the beginning of their friendship and podcasting. But instead of fracturing their collaboration, it taught them how to respect their d...

Jan 22, 202522 minSeason 2025Ep. 3

An Awkard Meeting and Staying Curious in Conflict - Hélène Biandudi Hofer

Hélène Biandudi Hofer shares a story about navigating an awkward meeting where a client tried to sideline her in favor of her business partner, Amanda Ripley. She teaches us how storytelling, staying curious, and asking the right questions can help us turn conflict into a good thing. From a young age, Hofer learned the value of storytelling from her great-grandmother and father. In 2018, after a successful career in broadcast journalism, she took a leap and partnered with Ripley to create Good...

Jan 15, 202522 minSeason 2025Ep. 2

A Journey of Uncomfortable Healing – Constance Scharff

Constance Scharff takes us on a ride from food tours in Turkey to overcoming a personal battle with trauma and addiction. She opens up about the uncomfortable journey that led to discovering the transformative power of somatic therapy and how it helped heal her deep emotional wounds. So, whether it’s feeling out of place while traveling or tackling deep-seated issues, this chat is all about embracing discomfort to grow and heal. Constance Scharff, dubbed the Indiana Jones of mental health resear...

Jan 08, 202521 minSeason 2025Ep. 1

BONUS – How to Make the Most of Those Uncomfy Holiday Moments.

In this special bonus drop, four of our 2024 Uncomfy guests give some advice on how to stick with the discomfort that can come around the holidays. From potentially uncomfortable encounters with relatives to dealing with mental health struggles, we hope this advice helps you to get Uncomfy during this festive season. Featured Guests: Vanessa Otero (Ad Fontes Media), Erik DaRosa (From Survivor to Thriver), David French (The New York Times), and Rich Harwood (The Harwood Institute) Related Links: ...

Dec 25, 202411 min

14 Strangers Dare to Explore Their Differing Views on Abortion - Ali Muldrow & Bria Halama

Ali Muldrow and Bria Halama have nearly opposite views on abortion. But they signed up to sit with 12 other strangers looking for common ground. The four-day workshop was organized by Citizen Solutions in Wisconsin and resulted in five policy recommendations the whole group could agree on. It also turned Ali and Bria into friends. They found that listening, being vulnerable, and recognizing others’ humanity were transformative in these polarized discussions. Ali Muldrow is the executive director...

Dec 18, 202423 minSeason 2024Ep. 26

A Car Accident and an Unexpected Friendship - Becca Obeng

When Becca Obeng was involved in a car accident on a busy Florida freeway, she chose empathy over defensiveness. In response, the other driver opened up in a completely unexpected way, transforming a tense encounter into a moment of connection and an unlikely friendship. Becca Obeng is the creator of Becoming Undaunted, a 100-day challenge where she takes on one uncomfortable task each day to build confidence and embrace growth. Can you think of a time when you felt your perspective or worldview...

Dec 11, 202418 minSeason 2024Ep. 25

A Loaded Question from a Stranger Sparked by a T-shirt Slogan - Vanessa Otero

While going to pick up some food in a “Everyone Watches Women’s Sports” t-shirt, Vanessa Otero was approached by a stranger with a loaded question about “men in women’s sports.” The following exchange could have easily turned hostile or dismissive, but Otero chose a different path. Drawing on her experience in discussing polarizing issues, she asked clarifying questions and introduced new ideas to the conversation, hoping to build better understanding. Vanessa Otero is CEO and founder of Ad Font...

Dec 04, 202419 minSeason 2024Ep. 24
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