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"But Jesus Drank Wine" & Other Stories That Kept Us Stuck

Christy Osborne & Meade Shirleywww.butjesusdrankwine.com
Join Meade and Christy, two retired-over-drinkers turned freedom-from-alcohol coaches, as they explore all of the stories that kept them stuck in the nightly over-drinking cycle, including but certainly not limited to "But Jesus drank wine?" If you're looking for two Christian women who get real about how wine held them back and explore tricky questions about drinking (and beyond!) with grace, compassion, and zero judgment, this is the podcast for you.
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Episodes

Why Summer Might Be The Best Time To Quit Drinking

Join the conversation in our community at BJDW Community! Episode 134. What if this is the summer it all changes—for the better? ☀️ Today we dive into what it means to experience summer without alcohol, and why that might be the very thing your soul is craving. Whether you’re newly sober-curious, starting your first alcohol-free summer, or coming back to this journey after a break, this conversation is packed with grace, encouragement, and practical tools. We talk about everything from mom cultu...

Jun 23, 202545 min

Has Wine Become an Idol?

To help you reflect and dig deeper, we’ve created a free guided journaling booklet that goes hand-in-hand with this episode. You can download it here. Join the conversation in our community at BJDW Community Today we tackle a topic that hits close to home for many women of faith: Has wine—or any other comfort—become more important than your relationship with God? Using a biblical lens, they explore the concept of idolatry : anything that takes up too much of our time, energy, money, or mental sp...

Jun 16, 202541 min

"But Jesus Drank Wine” (Did He Really?)

Join the conversation in our community at BJDW Community . We’re re-releasing one of our most popular episodes—Episode 13: Did Jesus Drink Wine? With Pastor David—because some truths are worth hearing twice. Or ten times. This episode gets to the heart of a phrase many of us used to justify the habit: “But Jesus drank wine.” It’s not just the name of our podcast—it was a story that kept us stuck in a nightly-ish drinking cycle. So today, join us in the studio as they welcome a very special guest...

Jun 09, 202551 min

Helping Him Heal: What Women Need to Know About Men, Emotions, and the 3% Rule | Blake Roberts & Jamie Haigh

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community . In this honest and insightful episode, we’re joined by Blake Roberts (a returning guest!) and Jamie Haigh, founders of The Three Percent Co. and hosts of The 3% Podcast. Both licensed therapists and men of faith, Blake and Jamie share their personal and professional perspective on what’s really going on inside the hearts and minds of men—and how women can walk with their husbands as they move toward emotional and...

Jun 02, 202542 min

Ep. 130 Breaking Free with Dr. Lee Warren's 10 Commandments of Self-Brain Surgery (Part 2)

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community . In this episode, we continue our deep dive into Dr. Lee Warren’s 10 Commandments of Self-Brain Surgery, focusing on commandments 6 through 10. As freedom-from-alcohol coaches, we share how these powerful principles shape our approach to helping women break free from the overdrinking cycle. From prioritizing long-term well-being to understanding the transformative power of thoughts, we explore actionable steps—wha...

May 26, 202544 min

Ep.129 Breaking Free with Dr. Lee Warren's 10 Commandments of Self-Brain Surgery (Part 1)

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community . In this special episode, we got to guest-host Dr. Lee Warren’s Spiritual Self-Brain Surgery podcast to discuss the first five of his 10 Commandments of Self-Brain Surgery—powerful principles that combine neuroscience and faith to help you overcome challenges and break free from the destructive patterns in your life, including alcohol use. We dive into the intersection of neuroscience and spirituality, sharing how...

May 19, 202550 min

Ep. 128 Heather Dillion | From High-Achieving to Healing: Letting Go, Finding God, and Living Free

Disclaimer: This episode discusses topics including suicide and suicidal ideation, which may be distressing to some listeners. If you are experiencing emotional distress or feel unsafe, please know that help is available. If you are in immediate danger or need urgent support, call 911 (if in the United States) or your local emergency services immediately. For those in the United States, you can reach the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988 (available 24 hours) or 1-800-273-8255. If you'r...

May 12, 202547 min

Ep. 127 Jill Hutsko | The Lie of Moderation and the Freedom of Obedience

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community . In this honest and hope-filled conversation, Christy and Meade welcome Jill, a beloved member of the But Jesus Drank Wine leadership team, to share her powerful story of breaking free from alcohol and drawing closer to God. After ten years of trying to moderate her drinking, Jill was inspired by Christy’s sobriety story in the summer of 2023 and made the bold decision to stop drinking entirely. What followed was ...

May 05, 202542 min

Ep. 126 Laura Smith | Brave Woman, Mighty God: Why God Power Girl Power

Join the conversation in our community HERE! In this empowering episode, Christy and Meade welcome author and speaker Laura Smith for a rich conversation about her latest book, Brave Woman, Mighty God. Laura—now a 15-time published author—shares her heart behind the book’s message and reminds us that strength doesn’t come from “girl power” but from God power. Together, they explore the stories of bold biblical women like Mary Magdalene, Sarah, and others who did mighty things—not because they we...

Apr 28, 202549 min

Ep. 125 Pastor David Walters | Is Drinking Alcohol A Sin?

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community . In this episode, Christy and Meade welcome back Pastor David Walters for an honest and theologically rich conversation on one of the most frequently asked questions among believers: Is drinking alcohol a sin? Together, they explore what the Bible actually says about alcohol—and just as importantly, why we ask the question in the first place. Is it about seeking permission? Wanting to avoid conviction? Or genuinel...

Apr 21, 202544 min

Ep. 124 Kelsey Green | A Freedom Story from the Heart of Our Leadership Team

Come hang out with Kelsey, Christy, and Meade in our community, here: https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community We are so excited to share Kelsey Green’s testimony with you today. Kelsey is a beloved member of the But Jesus Drank Wine leadership team and someone who played a key role in laying the foundation of our community. In this episode, Kelsey shares her deeply personal journey of changing her relationship with alcohol and how her faith in Jesus Christ brought radical transformation to her l...

Apr 14, 202545 min

Ep. 123 Chris Janssen | Grace Yourself: How to Show Up for the Sober Life You Want

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community . Today, we sit down with Chris Janssen, MA, BCC, a board-certified results coach, author, and expert in performance and mindset. Chris shares her deeply personal journey with alcohol, from growing up in a non-drinking household to battling a secretive drinking habit in adulthood. She first got sober in 2007 but went back to alcohol during the pandemic, an experience that brought her to a deeper understanding of gr...

Apr 07, 202540 min

Ep. 122 Stephanie Ziebell | Radiant in Battle: Pursuing Sobriety Through Faith

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community . Stephanie Ziebell shares her personal journey to sobriety and faith, highlighting the transformation that came when she embraced God's grace. A wife, mother of four, attorney, and Christian sobriety advocate, Stephanie knows what it’s like to wrestle with addiction and the internal conflict it brings. After years of struggling with alcohol, she found true freedom and now dedicates her life to helping others do th...

Mar 31, 202541 min

Ep. 121 Blake Roberts | More to the Story: Healing From Sex and Alcohol Addiction

Join the conversation in our community at https://butjesusdrankwine.com/community . In this episode, we sit down with Blake Roberts, a licensed therapist, writer, podcast host, and speaker based in Nashville, TN. Blake specializes in helping men heal attachment wounds, foster healthy relationships, and learn to trust again. If you're looking for ways to support your husband—or any loved one—who is struggling with addiction, this is a must-listen. Blake offers invaluable insights into the healing...

Mar 24, 202551 min

Ep. 120 Ali Kennedy | From Shame to Freedom, A Ministry Leader’s Sobriety Story

Join the conversation in our community Here . In this heartfelt episode, ministry leader Ali Kennedy shares her deeply personal journey from struggling with alcohol to experiencing spiritual renewal and true freedom. Ali’s struggle with alcohol began in her early teenage years and continued through college, marriage, and motherhood. Despite being in ministry, she wrestled with feelings of shame and internal conflict around her drinking—hiding a battle she thought she should have already won. The...

Mar 17, 202558 min

Ep. 119 Let Them… or Let HIM? A Biblical Take on Mel Robbins’ Viral Self-Help Theory

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE ! Mel Robbins’ Let Them philosophy has taken the self-help world by storm. But is it really the key to peace and freedom? Or is there something deeper—something better—that God calls us to instead? In today’s episode, we break down where Let Them aligns with biblical wisdom… and where it misses the mark. Through real-life experiences and scriptural truths, we explore why true peace doesn’t come from just “letting them” but from fully surrendering to Him. We also shar...

Mar 10, 202545 min

Ep. 118 Jo Hargreaves | Attachment Theory, Faith, and Rewiring the Brain for Emotional Healing

The Lent Fast Starts This Wednesday!!!! Get more information and join us here Today we welcome Jo Hargreaves, a pastor, psychotherapist, writer, and speaker, to explore the intersection of faith, therapy, and mental health. As the voice behind The Faith-Filled Therapist, Jo is passionate about integrating theology and therapy, scripture and neuroscience, and ensuring that God remains at the center of conversations about mental and emotional well-being. Jo shares powerful insights into attachment...

Mar 03, 202538 min

Ep. 117 Brandi Babb | The Power of Somatic Practice in Sobriety and Beyond

Join the Lent 40 Day Fast! More info right here! We start March 5th! Our friend Brandi Babb shares her powerful freedom-from-alcohol story—from her early days as a “good girl” who followed all the rules to confronting the painful realities of alcohol use disorder and the internal divide between her faith and her drinking. Brandi opens up about how her struggle with alcohol began at 21 and intensified after her father's passing. She reveals how alcohol slowly stole her sense of self, leading to a...

Feb 24, 202554 min

Ep. 116 Dr Lisa Stanton | Life Changing Lessons from Recovery

Join the Lent 40 Day Fast! More info right here! We start March 5th! Content Warning:This episode references sensitive topics, including sexual assault and trauma. We recognize that these subjects may be difficult or triggering for some listeners. Please take care of yourself while listening. If you or someone you know is in need of support, please seek help from a trusted resource or helpline. Listener discretion is strongly advised. Today, we welcome Dr. Lisa Stanton to share her powerful test...

Feb 17, 202549 min

Ep. 115 Kori Leigh | From Rock Bottom to Redemption, Breaking Generational Patterns, and Rediscovering Who God Really Is

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE ! Disclaimer: This episode discusses topics including suicide and suicidal ideation, which may be distressing to some listeners. If you are experiencing emotional distress or feel unsafe, please know that help is available. If you are in immediate danger or need urgent support, call 911 (if in the United States) or your local emergency services immediately. For those in the United States, you can reach the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988 (available 24 hou...

Feb 10, 20251 hr 1 min

Ep. 114 Jon Seidl | Confessions of a Christian “Alcoholic”

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE ! Christy chats with Jon Seidl, bestselling Christian author and founder of The Veritas Network, to discuss addiction, anxiety, and the road to true freedom. Jon has spent years in journalism, faith-based media, and nonprofit work with I Am Second, helping people tell their stories of transformation. But behind the scenes, he was silently battling anxiety, OCD, and alcohol dependency, even as he was a known Christian mental health advocate. Jon opens up about how cul...

Feb 03, 20251 hr 3 min

Ep. 113 Christy's Faith Story

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE ! For some reason, sharing my alcohol story has always been easy for me. But today’s podcast episode has been 42 years in the making. I’ve never told this story before. Today, I want to tell you all about how I rediscovered Jesus. It’s a story of redemption, sobriety, and His unrelenting love that has shaped my life. This isn’t a story of religious perfection; it’s one of shame and brokenness and a profound reconnection with God that changed everything. Growing up, m...

Jan 27, 202539 min

EP. 112 Meade's Faith Story

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE! Today Meade shares her deeply personal faith story. Through moments of vulnerability and profound honesty, Meade recounts her transformation from a life of struggles with alcohol to finding freedom and identity in her faith. Growing up, Meade believed that Jesus was only for the 'perfect,' which led her to distance herself from faith during her teenage and early adult years. Her story takes a pivotal turn as she describes a life-changing guided meditation session wh...

Jan 20, 202553 min

Ep 111. Alisa Keeton | Beyond Resolutions: A Faith-Centered Approach to Fitness and Wellness

JOIN THE BJDW COMMUNITY HERE! Before you set your New Year’s resolutions for diet and exercise, this is the podcast you need to hear. This week we are joined by Alisa Keeton, the visionary founder of Revelation Wellness, to reframe how we think about health, fitness, and faith. Alisa’s holistic approach goes beyond traditional diet and exercise goals, offering a deeper understanding of how physical wellness intersects with mental, emotional, and spiritual growth. Alisa shares her journey from be...

Jan 13, 202558 min

Ep. 110 William Porter | The 8 Hurdles of Stopping Drinking

JOIN THE DRY JANUARY 40-DAY FAST HERE. Six weeks of coaching and community to kick-start your 2025 alcohol-free! Today we are joined by bestselling author William Porter, creator of Alcohol Explained, to break down the 8 Hurdles of Stopping Drinking. Drawing from his extensive research and personal experience, Porter offers invaluable advice for navigating the often-challenging path to sobriety. In this episode, we explore critical hurdles such as: Understanding and overcoming cravings Navigatin...

Jan 06, 202552 min

Ep. 109 Letting Go of Moderation as the Goal and Embracing True Freedom

JOIN THE DRY JANUARY 40-DAY FAST HERE. Six weeks of coaching and community to kick-start your 2025 alcohol-free! Today we welcome Lauren, a beloved member of our leadership team and a former coaching client of Christy’s who shares her inspiring journey to freedom from alcohol. Lauren reflects on her past struggles with moderation and the moment she decided to take alcohol off the table indefinitely. She explains how this decision was pivotal in gaining mental clarity, emotional peace, and a deep...

Dec 30, 202447 min

Ep. 108 Cheers to Change – Your Festive Guide to an Alcohol-Free Christmas

JOIN THE DRY JANUARY 40-DAY FAST HERE. Six weeks of coaching and community to kick-start your 2025 alcohol-free! Does Christmas Day have you feeling the pull of a mimosa at brunch, even though you’ve made it through the season without alcohol? Or perhaps you’ve been mindfully drinking and now feel drained, wishing to approach today differently but unsure how to begin. Wherever you are on this Christmas Day, we’re here to cheer you on with love and practical advice. In this episode, think of us a...

Dec 23, 202437 min

Ep. 107 Anna Mathur | Alcohol-Free Therapy for the Soul, Letting Go of People-Pleasing, and Friendships Built Around Alcohol

JOIN THE DRY JANUARY 40-DAY FAST HERE. Six weeks of coaching and community to kick-start your 2025 alcohol-free! Today, we are joined by the inspiring Anna Mathur, a renowned mental health advocate, bestselling author, and host of The Therapy Edit podcast, which has amassed over 3 million downloads. Anna is passionate about making therapy accessible to everyone and delivers life-changing insights through her Instagram, books, and substack, The Frazzled Mums Club. The episode also highlights Anna...

Dec 16, 202447 min

Ep. 106 Living Fully | Celebrating Alcohol-Free Firsts

JOIN THE DRY JANUARY 40-DAY FAST HERE. Six weeks of coaching and community to kick-start your 2025 alcohol-free! Today we explore the joy and clarity of life without alcohol, sharing personal stories and tips for thriving in alcohol-free social settings. From milestone moments to everyday experiences, we uncover how this lifestyle enhances connection and presence. What You’ll Discover: Alcohol-Free Milestones Made Memorable Date Nights: Strengthen your connection with your partner in meaningful ...

Dec 09, 202435 min

Ep. 105 Karla Adkins | From Liver Cirrhosis to Lasting Confidence, True Connection, and Peace in Jesus

Today we welcome back Karla Adkins to share her inspiring journey of freedom from alcohol, faith, and transformation. Karla’s story is one of resilience and hope, offering a candid look at her struggles with alcohol, shame, and vulnerability—and how she found freedom through faith and sharing her inspiring story. Karla reflects on her initial reluctance to share her experiences with liver failure publicly. Hearing how her story touched others gave her the courage to keep sharing, creating a ripp...

Dec 02, 202455 min
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