Some relationships stay with us long after they’ve ended—and our dreams often help us make sense of that. In this episode, we reconnect with Jordan Hale , psychotherapist and host of the Psyche Magic podcast, for Part 2 of our dream series. This conversation shows us how dreams support us through grief, endings, and the vulnerability of new beginnings . Whether you're moving through the loss of a loved one, healing from a breakup, or stepping into a new relationship, your dreams may be holding t...
Jun 24, 2025•47 min•Season 1Ep. 119
What if your dreams were more than just strange stories from the night? What if they were soul whispers—guiding you toward your deepest healing and creativity? In this dreamy and hilariously insightful episode, Holly and Kelly sit down with psychotherapist and Psyche Magic podcas t host, Jordan Hale, to explore the rich, symbolic world of dreams. From lucid dreaming to dream journaling to decoding subconscious messages, this conversation is packed with all of the questions we have ever had about...
May 28, 2025•55 min•Season 1Ep. 118
There are so many different types of therapy—and finding the right one for you can feel overwhelming. In this episode, Holly, Kelly, and Emma are joined by somatic therapist, educator, and embodiment guide Molly Bienstock for a powerful conversation about somatic therapy, Internal Family Systems (IFS), body-based healing, and how to better understand the language of your internal parts. We explore: What somatic therapy is and how it differs from traditional talk therapy How IFS and parts work he...
Apr 30, 2025•1 hr 5 min•Season 1Ep. 117
In this follow-up to our most popular episode on the decision to have kids or remain childfree, we expand the conversation to explore the culture, politics, and personal experience of care with award-winning journalist and author Elissa Strauss. Elissa is the author of When You Care: The Unexpected Magic of Caring for Others and a writer for The New York Times, The Atlantic, Glamour, and more. In this episode, she shares deep insights into why care is undervalued in society—from parenting and ca...
Mar 26, 2025•1 hr 1 min•Season 1Ep. 116
What is creative wellness? How do creativity and wellness intersect, and why is this so important—especially now? In this episode of How the Wise One Grows , Holly Zajur and Kelly Eberle sit down with guest Preston Slaughter to explore how creative wellness is a powerful tool for healing, resilience, and reimagining the world we need today. In a world that often feels overwhelming, we discuss: What is creativity, and when did it first show up in our lives? What blocks creativity? Unpacking perfe...
Feb 26, 2025•43 min•Season 1Ep. 115
In this episode, Kelly and I get real about what it means to navigate the wild ride that is 2025. We dive into the tools, practices, and mindset shifts tucked into our "emotional go-bags"—the essentials we lean on to make it through these times. This conversation also offers a behind-the-scenes look at how How the Wise One Grows is evolving, including our vision to make this podcast not just a place for inspiration but a true community—a sanctuary to help us all feel a little less alone in these...
Jan 28, 2025•59 min•Season 1Ep. 114
In this episode, we’re wrapping up the year with heart, humor, and a whole lot of reflection (and laughter). This episode is your reminder to pause, reflect, and celebrate the little things that make life (and growth) so special. You’ll hear Holly, Emma, and Kelly giggling over life’s quirks and diving deep into how the biggest moments of growth often arise from life’s seemingly mundane moments. We talk about everything from girl dinner walks to the hilariously practical wisdom of keeping cheese...
Dec 26, 2024•1 hr 14 min•Season 1Ep. 113
The holiday season can be a joyful time, but it can also bring challenges, especially for those grieving the loss of a loved one. In this episode, we are joined by grief therapist Litsa Williams to explore practical and meaningful ways to navigate grief during the holidays. Whether you’re struggling to uphold traditions, finding ways to talk to your children during hard moments, or just trying to make it through the “most wonderful time of the year,” this episode offers heartfelt support, action...
Nov 27, 2024•47 min•Season 1Ep. 112
If you've ever been curious about tarot or even fearful, this episode is for you. Holly Zajur & Kelly Eberle dive into the mystical world of tarot with tarot experts & learn how tarot isn’t about fortune telling, but rather a tool for self-discovery. Topics Discussed: What is Tarot? The history, origins, & evolution Tarot for Personal Growth: How tarot can offer insights into life’s challenges Debunking Tarot Myths Personal Tarot Stories: Listeners share how tarot has impacted their ...
Oct 16, 2024•54 min•Season 1Ep. 111
This podcast is rooted in the intention of creating from a place of ease and balance, and we're taking this time to live by that principle. Inspired by episode 109 with Cait Donovan on burnout , How the Wise One Grows will pause releasing new episodes in September to stay aligned with those values. During this break, we're recording exciting new content and preparing for what's next for the podcast! Don't worry, we'll be back in October! In the meantime, explore the 100+ episodes available, star...
Sep 04, 2024•2 min
Feeling exhausted, overwhelmed, or burnt out? This is your go-to meditation. Join us for a powerful guided Yoga Nidra meditation designed to help you combat burnout and reclaim your energy. In this meditation you will focus on cultivating the skill of interoception, teaching you how to tune into your body’s signals and meet your needs before burnout takes hold. Inspired by the expert insights of burnout specialist Cait Donovan from Episode 109 , this meditation will guide you in reconnecting wit...
Aug 21, 2024•22 min•Season 1Ep. 110
In this episode, we explore the complexities of burnout with Cait Donovan from FRIED the Burnout Podcast. We discuss its causes, symptoms, and effective recovery strategies. Cait helps us identify common symptoms and stressors, sharing personal stories and examining the impact of stress on the body. We also highlight financial insecurity as a critical factor contributing to burnout and provide practical budgeting tips and tools to help manage finances and alleviate stress. We emphasize the impor...
Aug 07, 2024•55 min•Season 1Ep. 109
Tap into yin energy and feminine power with a soothing 8-minute meditation. This guided meditation is perfect for when you feel overwhelmed and need to embrace rest, creativity, and inner balance. 08:29 Meditation begins In episode 107 , we spoke with Yasmine Idriss, who shared her journey of becoming the first Arab Saudi woman to cycle the ring road in Iceland and how embracing feminine energy was the secret to her success. Inspired by Yasmine's journey, today's episode brings you a guided m...
Jul 24, 2024•16 min•Season 1Ep. 108
In this episode, we have the honor of speaking with Yasmine Idriss, the first Arab/Saudi woman to cycle Iceland's ring road. Yasmine shares her journey and the profound role of feminine energy in achieving her goals, overcoming failure, allowing herself to rest, and embracing the continual process of becoming. In this episode we discuss: Yasmine’s Motivation Behind Cycling Iceland's Ring Road Applying Feminine Energy to Physical Challenges: Yasmine reflects on how she applied feminine energy to ...
Jul 10, 2024•48 min•Season 1Ep. 107
Learn how to tap into your intuition and inner strength with a we offer a guided mindfulness-based meditation. Through visualization techniques, you'll learn to recognize what your "yes" feels like, what your "no" feels like, and reconnect with your gut feelings. This episode is perfect for anyone seeking to cultivate their "inner Gabby," inspired by our insightful conversations with Gabby Wadsworth in episodes 104 and 105 . If you missed those, be sure to go back and listen for a deeper underst...
Jun 26, 2024•17 min•Season 1Ep. 106
We're honored to share a deeply moving story of love and loss with Gabby Wadsworth. You may remember her from Episode 104, where she shared her journey of leaving the Mormon Church. If her strength and resilience touched you then, this episode will resonate even more deeply. This episode focuses on her husband Colten Wadsworth, who battled cancer for 3.5 years. Gabby opens up about Colten's fight, their life together during those challenging times, and her journey through the profound grief of l...
Jun 12, 2024•1 hr 11 min•Season 1Ep. 105
What would it take to walk away from everything you know? Tune in to hear the brave journey of a woman, Gabby Wadsworth, who left the Mormon church after being raised in it. Listen as we discuss the critical role of intuition, the courage to challenge church elders, and the path to healing from spiritual abuse. Gabby shares a raw and honest account of her journey to leave the church, offering insights and encouragement for all people to trust and advocate for themselves. This episode is a must-l...
May 29, 2024•1 hr 15 min•Season 1Ep. 104
Having trouble making a decision? I got you covered! In this episode, we offer a guided meditation designed to help you navigate the complex process of decision-making. Building on our insightful discussion from Episode 102 with Clarity Coach Keltie Maguire , we focus on one of life's significant choices, like the decision to have kids or remain childfree. In this 13 min mindfulness-based meditation, we explore three essential components of effective decision-making: Awareness: Cultivate a clear...
May 15, 2024•18 min•Season 1Ep. 103
In this episode, clarity coach Keltie Maguire helps us navigate one of life's most significant decisions—whether to embrace parenthood or opt for a child-free lifestyle. We delve into the societal norms, cultural expectations, and personal considerations that impact this choice. Our discussion is guided by listener questions and stories, addressing the stigmas associated with opting out of parenthood and exploring emotional journeys for both paths. We also tackle concepts like 'mother hunger' an...
May 01, 2024•1 hr 13 min•Season 1Ep. 102
In today's episode, we've got a guided meditation to help you through life's most embarrassing moments-- and general feelings of embarrassment and shame. Using mindfulness and compassion, you'll learn how to gently let go of negative emotions and cultivate a stronger sense of self-acceptance. Whether you're new to meditation or looking to deepen your practice, this meditation is crafted to support anyone seeking to improve their emotional well-being. Download this episode so you have it on tap f...
Apr 17, 2024•14 min•Season 1Ep. 101
Celebrate two years and 100 episodes of spreading the How the Wise One Grows podcast with laughter as we share our most embarrassing moments. Imagine beginning every friendship with the raw, unfiltered stories that make us human—this episode does just that with host Holly Zajur and guests Emma Hern and Kelly Eberle, as they introduce themselves by sharing their most embarrassing stories. But the laughter doesn’t end here! We're inviting YOU to be a part of the fun. Share your embarrassing moment...
Apr 03, 2024•51 min•Season 1Ep. 100
This episode shares the breathing technique that helped Natalie Rainer ( from Ep 98 ) find relief through extreme pain while in the ICU followed by a meditation to connect with your core values to navigate life with clarity, as Natalie did after the accident. Box breath is a great way to: - Calm the nervous system - Improve mood - Regulate body temperature - Decrease stress - Lower blood pressure This episode is ideal for anyone overcoming a challenge or looking to improve their mental and emoti...
Mar 20, 2024•14 min•Season 1Ep. 99
We all face hard moments in life. But some, seem impossible to overcome. Those are the moments we learn how resilient we truly are. On August 13, 2022, Natalie Rainer and Jonah Holland were in a horrific bike accident that took the life of Jonah Holland, a beloved friend and community member, and left Natalie severely injured. Natalie’s recovery story is a testament to finding resilience and compassion throughout the healing journey. Discover how Natalie confronted extreme pain and loss, and fou...
Mar 13, 2024•1 hr 19 min•Season 1Ep. 98
Unlock the secret to conquering self-doubt and embracing your creative potential in this episode. Join us as we dive into the story of Jada and David Parrish, former wedding photographers turned conceptual artists. Discover how they bravely shifted careers and embarked on an ambitious 100-set project that showcases their artistic expression and personal development journey. In this episode, not only will you get an inside look at Jada and David's path from photography to conceptual art, but you'...
Mar 06, 2024•53 min
This week we are time-traveling back to Episode 55 where we talked all about Forest Bathing with Daillen Culver, a compassionate well-being educator, nonprofit director, and yoga teacher. Join us as we explore compassion fatigue, the profound impacts of eco-anxiety and climate distress, and the transformative power of forest bathing (Shinrin-yoku). Daillen offers valuable insights into the emotional toll of these issues and shares practical techniques to navigate and mitigate the overwhelming fe...
Feb 28, 2024•47 min
In this episode, we dive into a mindfulness of death meditation, inspired by the Buddhist practice of maraṇasati and Episode 93 with death doula, Jill McClennan. "Mindfulness of Mortality" offers a guided meditation focused on the acceptance of life’s impermanence. By acknowledging mortality, we are encouraged to live with more purpose and mindfulness. The practice draws on mindfulness of death to facilitate a deeper connection with the present, highlighting the value of each moment and the impo...
Feb 21, 2024•16 min•Season 1Ep. 94
The only thing we know for certain in life is... that we die. So why are we so afraid of it and talking about it?! In Episode 93 we dive into the taboo topic of death with Death Doula and End of Life Coach, Jill McClennen. Jill shares how we can stop fearing death and start embracing mortality to live with courage, openness, and authenticity. This episode is not just a conversation about death; it's a guide to living a fuller, richer life. Episodes Referenced: Ep 67- People Pleasing Ep 43- Grief...
Feb 14, 2024•49 min•Season 1Ep. 93
In today's episode, you'll hear a guided meditation for the upcoming New Moon in Aquarius, the Lunar New Year, and learn the most helpful advice as we ride the waves of life. This meditation helps you establish your core values, enabling you to set clear intentions during this pivotal time of renewal. Whether you're seeking to refresh your mindset, align with the cosmic energies, or establish a foundation for the year ahead, this episode provides the tools you need for balance. 05:19 Meditation ...
Feb 07, 2024•16 min•Season 1Ep. 92
Have you ever wanted to pack up and move somewhere completely new? In this episode you hear from life coach turned therapist, Marisol, about what the reality of that is actually like. In this episode, you'll discover: Essential Self-Reflection Questions: Before you pack your bags, dive into key considerations that will guide your decision to move Why running from our shadows doesn't work and ways to work with your shadows Realities of Relocation: What to expect if you do pack up and move How to ...
Jan 31, 2024•30 min•Season 1Ep. 91
This meditation practice invites you to introspectively examine your past and present experiences with substances while setting an intention for the future relationship you'd like to have with substances. Whether you're exploring sobriety, sober curious, California sober, or seeking a healthier lifestyle, this meditation offers a judgment-free space for personal discovery and growth. Go back and listen to the Sober Curious Series: Ep 88- Sober Curious (Part 1 ) Ep 89- California Sober (Part 2) G...
Jan 24, 2024•17 min•Season 1Ep. 90