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The Audience Explorer

Matthias Bohlenpodcasts.bohlenlabs.com
Founders and Indie Creators: How to find the audience for whom you build your product – and what to do when you meet them!
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Steph Smith: How to become successful as a content creator

Steph Smith is a growth marketer, writer, and indie maker. She wrote “The Guide to Remote Work That’s Not Trying to Sell You Anything” and "Doing Content Right". Steph and Matthias join on The Audience Explorer for a chat. Steph shares two interesting topics here: 1) How she found the audience for her first book (and how she was able to write it in parallel to her job) 2) What's absolutely necessary for a content creator to become successful Great insights, Steph! Thanks for being my guest! Read...

Feb 03, 202243 minEp. 28

Coaching call with Charles-Olivier Demers, founder of Feedback Farm

Charles-Olivier Demers joins me on The Audience Explorer for an audience modeling discussion, to figure out who it is exactly that he will be helping in his newly founded SaaS business. Read the full transcript of the episode here . Find Charles-Olivier on Twitter: https://twitter.com/co_demers...

Jan 21, 202247 minEp. 27

Marie Martens: Getting an audience by cold outreach and other methods

Marie co-founded Tally with her partner Filip, in the summer of 2020. Filip is into tech, she is into marketing – a magic combination! Marie shares with us the different ways and methods that she used to get the first users and customers for the Tally form builder software. That's a really interesting mix. Today, they have 15,000 users and $7000 MRR – an impressive track record after only one year in the making! Read the full transcript of this episode here: https://gettheaudience.com/e26-audien...

Jan 07, 202244 minEp. 26

Coaching call with new founder Paulina Sáez

Paulina Sáez joins me on The Audience Explorer for an audience modeling discussion, to figure out who it is exactly that she will be helping in her newly founded business. Read the full transcript of the episode here . Find Paulina on Twitter: https://twitter.com/PSaezT...

Dec 24, 202149 minEp. 25

Colleen Schnettler: Finding your audience on a marketplace

Colleen founded simplefileupload.com and went "product first" with it. She wrote the code, found a platform on which to publish and sell it, and has repeatable success with it. Matthias normally recommends to go "audience first", but Colleen managed to get her product off the ground with the "product first" approach, instead. Let's hear how she did that! Read the full transcript of the episode here . Meet @leenyburger on Twitter, and find her website at https://www.simplefileupload.com/...

Dec 10, 202150 minEp. 24

Rob Fitzpatrick: How an entrepreneur’s journey yields compound interest

Matthias admires Rob's book "The Mom Test", so he decided to invite Rob to chat about all things customer and audience development. It turned out that Rob has a pretty unique system to develop products. He shares it in such a unique, easily understandable way that Matthias suddenly shouts out "Hey, why didn't I know this before?". Read the full transcript of the episode here . Meet @robfitz on Twitter, and find his websites, Youtube channel, and authors community at - https://robfitz.com/ - http...

Nov 26, 202154 minEp. 23

Alex Llull: How an entrepreneur actively built his own audience for a profitable business

Matthias knows Alex from Twitter, as someone who is creative and always stands out with his tweets, always value-packed tweets and so visually appealing. Alex lives in Spain. He lost his job in 2020 due to COVID, but he decisively founded his own business as a social media consultant, content creator and writer. Alex helps creators and entrepreneurs to leverage social media content so that they can grow their business, their brand, their audience. Alex shares tons of tips about audience building...

Nov 12, 202131 minEp. 22

Kevon Cheung: How to develop an audience for (and by) building in public

Matthias meets with Kevon on video. They know each other from Twitter, and Matthias admires Kevon for his talent to communicate as a real human. They take a deep dive on how to do audience development, to become the go-to person for a topic and offer courses on it. In Kevon's case, the topic is "Building in Public". He is a prolific creator on this, and he offers a brand-new cohort-based course for entrepreneurs on it. Enjoy the episode! Read the full transcript of the episode here . @MeetKevon ...

Oct 29, 202152 minEp. 21

Nesha Mutuku: Customer conversations, why not at the dentist or at a baby shower?

Matthias encounters the most enthusiastic young startup founder he ever met before. Nesha co-founded Swally , a habit-building app that will make you spend wisely. It analyzes your financial behaviour, helps you create a budget, and it informs you right on the spot about how much you can spend there. Imagine: You are at Starbucks, and Swally says "You can spend $15 here". Matthias is amazed when Nesha tells about all the unusual locations where you can encounter your audience. Their conversation...

Oct 15, 20211 hr 9 minEp. 20

Sharath Kuruganty: The beauty of having an audience for your product

Sharath and Matthias have known each other for a long time, only from Twitter. Today, they got a chance to meet "in person", i.e. in a video call for a podcast recording. Sharath co-founded shoutout.so , a startup that makes it possible for founders to collect positive shoutouts and display them anywhere – a solution to the well-known problem of social proof that is very important for any business, and for startups in particular. Matthias takes the chance to ask Sharath about how his co-founder ...

Oct 01, 202132 minEp. 19

Ramli John: Product-led onboarding

Ramli has written a great book called "Product-led onboarding". Matthias has to onboard new users to his SaaS called "GetTheAudience", and so he read Ramli's book and thought it would be a great idea to have him on the podcast. It turned out to be a great chat! Ramli talked about - an interesting approach that got them the first audience for their company - why sales-led firms should now make the move to become a product-led organization - and what makes a great onboarding experience for new use...

Jul 03, 202140 minEp. 18

Rosie Sherry: Community building – nowadays!

Rosie and Matthias had a deep and enjoyable conversation about community building. Rosie reveals her latest thoughts on... - what community building is, - what it really takes to be a good community builder, - and why community building seems to be easy and hard and the same time! Read the transcript here: - https://gettheaudience.com/e17-rosie-sherry-community-building-nowadays/ Find Rose on Twitter @rosiesherry and on the web at rosie.land You can find Orbit at https://www.orbitapp.io/...

Jun 16, 202150 minEp. 17

Justin Jackson: Audiences, Death Wish, and White Dudes

Justin and Matthias went deep down into the rabbit hole of audience building. The ride became philosophical and also touches social and societal aspects at the end. What an amazing journey! Learn more about how Justin Jackson, co-founder of transistor.fm and active podcaster by himself, thinks about today's world and about the interesting "sailboat in the wind" approach that he and his co-founder use to keep their podcast hosting business successful. Read the transcript here: - https://gettheaud...

May 31, 20211 hr 15 minEp. 16

Michele Hansen: Learning from your audience

Michele and Matthias talk about how audience development has changed over the years, on the way from a totally new SaaS startup to a mature business with many customers, today. They discover that finding the first members of an audience can be really easy, but that it can also be quite time-consuming to stay current with them. Michele tells us how she runs customer interviews frequently and how she always discovers new use cases and exciting things to learn from different customers, because geoc...

May 18, 202129 minEp. 15

Boris Tane: Turning bookmarks into tangible value

Boris and Matthias, both indie hackers, talk about getting your first audience and having conversations with them. Boris tells us how he got started with bkmark.io , his online bookmarking service, and how he discovered through conversations that this service could be used in an unexpected way so that he might get totally new customers right now. Read the transcript here: - https://gettheaudience.com/e14-boris-tane-turning-bookmarks-into-tangible-value/...

May 04, 202148 minEp. 14

Corey Haines: Developing a diverse community of marketers

Corey and Matthias talk about a lot of interesting topics: - Marketing is earning trust at scale - Consistently building an audience/community has a compounding effect - Marketing as a service to help other people find and receive your product - Keeping your thoughts organized using the Zettelkasten method Read the transcript of the podcast here, and see what was mentioned in the episode: https://gettheaudience.com/e13-corey-haines-develop-community-marketers/ Links mentioned in the podcast: Swi...

Apr 16, 202143 minEp. 13

How an Indie Hacker achieves a sustainable workload

As an indie hacker, you're a single-person company. You work in all roles at the same time: Programmer, CEO, marketing team, blogger, web designer, etc. etc. How on earth can you stay sane in your mind, and get all this stuff done at the same time, without overloading yourself? See the corner that Matthias painted himself into, and what solution he found: It's a combination of changes in mindset and in practical organization – changes that you make, too, to get "down to earth" again and have fun...

Apr 04, 202115 minEp. 12

Does your indie software have enough quality?

What is software quality, and what does it mean for an indie hacker? Can you find out what qualities (yes, it's a plural!) you need for your own product? Yes, you can! Matthias shows what happens if you take an existing quality standard (like ISO 25010) and check your situation as an indie product against it. This is a great shopping list for software quality categories and attributes that YOU will want to have in your own indie product, too: - ISO 25000 – the standard about software quality Rea...

Mar 04, 202119 minEp. 11

Dev lab news: Hunters and Gatherers (the new browser extension)

What is better: Hunting for an audience or gathering it? From his development lab, Matthias tells a story about a totally new browser extension that he's currently building. Users of GetTheAudience will be able to automatically gather an audience while surfing Twitter, instead of hunting (i.e. deliberately searching) for it. Read the transcript of the podcast here, and see which ancient philosophers were mentioned in the episode: https://gettheaudience.com/e10-dev-lab-news-audience-hunters-gathe...

Feb 23, 20216 minEp. 10

Arvid Kahl: Your audience is already out there!

Two Germans having a conversation in English: Enjoy listening to the interview! Read the transcript of the podcast here, and see what was mentioned in the episode: https://gettheaudience.com/e09-arvid-kahl-your-audience-is-already-out-there/ Links mentioned in the podcast: The Embedded Entrepreneur (Arvid's new, upcoming book about building an audience-driven business) Rosieland (Rosie Sherry's fantastic newsletter about community building) Indie Hackers (The best community I've ever been part o...

Feb 12, 202142 minEp. 9

Lesley Sim on Bootstrapping a WordPress business

Listen to Lesley's story how she co-founded her first startup, then pivoted by zooming in on one valuable feature, worked with her first audience, and about the goals that she is now persuing as a co-founder of NewsletterGlue . Enjoy listening to the interview! Read the transcript of the podcast here, and see what was mentioned in the episode: - https://gettheaudience.com/e08-lesley-sim-bootstrapping-wordpress-business/ Links mentioned in the podcast: - NewsletterGlue How to reach Lesley: - Twit...

Feb 03, 202125 minEp. 8

Brendan McAdams on dealing with more than one audience at a time

Listen to Brendan's story how he got to work with his first audience and about his perspective on what good salespeople should do and not do. Enjoy listening to the interview! Read the transcript of the podcast here, and see what was mentioned in the episode: - https://gettheaudience.com/e07-brendan-mcadams-more-than-one-audience/ Links mentioned in the podcast: - Expertscape How to reach Brendan: - Twitter - https://twitter.com/brendanmcadams - LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brendanmcad...

Jan 27, 202133 minEp. 7

Tom Libelt on systematized marketing and audience building

Matthias has his first guest for the show: Tom Libelt. Matthias is amazed about how Tom has gained clarity about three distinct types of audiences he is selling to, and that he systematized most processes so that they run while he isn't looking at them! Enjoy listening to the interview! Read the transcript of the podcast here, and see what was mentioned in the episode: - https://gettheaudience.com/e06-tom-libelt-systematized-marketing-audience-building/ Links mentioned in the podcast: - Marketin...

Jan 21, 202137 minEp. 6

How to engage with your audience

Read the transcript of the podcast here, and see what was mentioned in the episode: - https://gettheaudience.com/e05-how-to-engage-with-your-audience/ Books mentioned in the podcast: - Dale Carnegie: How to Win Friends and Influence People Links mentioned in the podcast: - Zoom: https://zoom.us/ - Jitsi meet: https://meet.jit.si/ - Christensen institute (JTBD): https://www.christenseninstitute.org/jobs-to-be-done/ - Commento, the commenting engine for my blog: https://commento.io/ - Hypefury as ...

Jan 14, 202125 minEp. 5

Selecting the right audience members to work with

Read the transcript of the podcast here, and see what was mentioned in the episode: - https://gettheaudience.com/e04-selecting-audience-members-to-work-with/ Links mentioned in the podcast: - Steve Blank: Get out of the building - Tony Ulwick: Jobs to be done - Swipe Files Community Videos: - Steve Blank: Want Your Startup to Succeed? 'Get Out of the Building' - Tony Ulwick: Jobs to be done People on Twitter: - Corey Haines: @coreyhainesco...

Jan 06, 202116 minEp. 4

How to understand your audience

Read the transcript of the podcast here, and see what was mentioned in the episode: - https://gettheaudience.com/e03-how-to-understand-your-audience/ Links mentioned in the podcast: Books and fun stuff: - Howland Blackiston: Beekeeping for dummies - On Amazon: Beekeeper coffee mug Twitter accounts: - @ Scotbeekeepers : the Scottish beekeepers' association - @ britishbee : the British Beekeepers' Association - @ HillHunterGPS : an app that finds the queen bee in a swarm of other bees...

Dec 29, 202013 minEp. 3

How to search for your audience

Read the transcript of the podcast here: - https://gettheaudience.com/e02-how-to-search-for-your-audience/ Links mentioned in the podcast: Blog posts: - Jelmer Pé: The ultimate guide to building audience-first Books: - Alex Banks and Eve Porcello: Learning React Online courses: - ReactJS Videos: - Dave McClure: Startup Metrics for Pirates: AARRR! Twitter accounts: - Tyler McGinnis: @tylermcginnis - ui.dev: @uidotdev...

Dec 21, 202017 minEp. 2

The first 50 days of a new startup: The GetTheAudience story

The transcript for this episode: https://gettheaudience.com/e01-the-first-50-days-of-a-startup/ Links mentioned in this episode: On day #6, I set up a public roadmap for my startup. You can find it at https://projects.mbohlen.de/project/mbohlen-get-the-audience/kanban...

Dec 15, 202017 minEp. 1
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