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the JustPod

The Criminal Justice Section of the ABAwww.americanbar.org

Podcast for the Criminal Justice Section of the American Bar Association. We'll talk current issues in criminal justice reform, policy and the Supreme Court. We'll discuss the work of the Criminal Justice Section including events, Task Forces, Standards, the ABA's ICC project and more. This is the Criminal Justice Section of the ABA’s podcast, and may not contain official ABA policy statements. For the ABA’s Code of Online Conduct visit here: https://www.americanbar.org/about_the_aba/codeofconduct/ 

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What do the Lubavitcher Rebbe and the Chabad Chassidic movement have to do with criminal justice reform?  It all starts with “Aleph.”

Send us a text What do the Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson, zt”l, and the Chabad Chassidic movement have to do with criminal justice reform? Find out in the latest episode of the JustPod, with our guest, Rabbi Yossi Bryski, the Director of Alternative Sentencing at the Aleph Institute. Aleph was founded in 1981 at the Rebbe’s direction, and for over 40 years since, has served individuals of all backgrounds and faiths in prison programs, reentry programs, alternative sentencin...

Jul 02, 202544 minSeason 7Ep. 10

White Collar Talks with Nina & Joe: Discussion with Susan Bozorgi

Send us a text Please join co-hosts Joe Whitley and Nina Marino for an insightful discussion with our distinguished guest, Susan Bozorgi. Susan started her impressive career in the public defender’s office in Miami where she found her calling opposing the government in representing people accused of crime. She tried hundreds of jury trials which honed her skills as a formidable trial attorney. Susan is the founder of Bozorgi Law PLLC based in Miami. She is known for her persistence and persevera...

Jun 23, 202545 minSeason 4Ep. 4

Volunteering for the Death Penalty:   Our Discussion with Award-Winning Journalist Gianna Toboni and Her Debut Book About Scott Dozier

Send us a text Gianna Toboni’s book, The Volunteer: The Failure of the Death Penalty in America and One Inmate’s Quest to Die with Dignity , is a morally provocative chronicle about Scott Dozier, a former Army Ranger, who was sentenced to death, and “volunteered” for the death penalty. Dozier had been convicted of murder, sentenced to death, and ultimately demanded the state enforce its own penalty. What unfolds in Toboni’s book is a story not just about death, but also about the bureaucratic, m...

Jun 20, 202552 minSeason 7Ep. 9

Defending the “Evil Genius”: A Discussion with Leonard Ambrose, and his Representation of Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong

Send us a text It was a pleasure to welcome Leonard Ambrose to the JustPod to discuss his representation of the notorious defendant Marjorie Diehl-Armstrong. Ambrose obtained an acquittal of Armstrong after she shot her boyfriend six times as he lay on a couch in 1984. But Armstrong is possibly more well known for her eventual murder conviction in the bizarre Pizza Bomber case in Erie, Pennsylvania—the subject of the Netflix series “Evil Genius.” That case arose from the August 28, 2003 robbery ...

Jun 02, 202542 minSeason 7Ep. 8

A discussion with defense counsel Rocco Cipparone and Angie Levy on January 6 prosecutions

Send us a text What was it like to defend clients in prosecutions arising out of events at the U.S. Capitol on January 6, 2021? A discussion with defense counsel Rocco Cipparone and Angie Levy. Following the events at the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021, the federal government initiated one of the largest investigations and prosecutions in American history, ultimately charging nearly 1,600 defendants. Those charges resulted in about 1,270 convictions (most, for misdemeanor offenses). Up...

Apr 30, 202542 minSeason 7Ep. 7

Lawyer, Gentleman, and Counsel to the Stars: A Discussion with Brian McMonagle

Send us a text In Philadelphia, a city known for great trial lawyers, our next guest stands out among them. Brian McMonagle began his career in the Philadelphia District Attorney’s Office where in his twenties he became one of the youngest lawyers to prosecute high profile cases in the DA’s Homicide Unit. Since then, Brian has gone on to represent actor Bill Cosby in a criminal trial, musical artist Meek Mill on a controversial probation violation proceeding, and other high-profile clients—among...

Apr 04, 202544 minSeason 7Ep. 6

White Collar Talks with Nina & Joe: Discussion with Karen Popp

Send us a text Please join co-hosts Joe Whitley and Nina Marino for an insightful discussion with our distinguished guest, Karen Popp. Karen, a partner at Sidley Austin, is a highly regarded and well-known leader in the field of white collar defense, internal investigations, crisis management, and compliance. Before joining Sidley, Karen served as Associate White House Counsel to the President of the United States, where she advised President Clinton and the White House staff on congressional an...

Mar 27, 202541 minSeason 4Ep. 3

White Collar Talks with Nina & Joe: Interview with Hon. Larry D. Thompson

Send us a text We are pleased to share with you our latest podcast with the Honorable Larry D. Thompson. Thompson has had extensive leadership experience in both the private and public sectors. He served as U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Georgia (1981-1986) and led major political corruption and drug trafficking prosecutions during his tenure at the Department. Thompson also led the Southern Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force. In 1995, he was named independent counsel for th...

Mar 24, 20251 hr 6 minSeason 4Ep. 2

The Murder of a Wonderful Law School Professor, and Our Discussion with his Mother, Ruth Markel: In Memory of Professor Dan Markel

Send us a text On the morning of July 19, 2014, Florida State University Law Professor Dan Markel—a friend and mentor to Justin, and to so many others—was shot and killed in his driveway in Tallahassee, Florida. Dan was 41 years old, and the father of two little boys, ages 4 and 3, one of whom was just days away from his next birthday. The loss of Dan to his family, his friends, and colleagues, is incalculable. Dan’s Mom, Ruth, graciously shared her time to discuss Dan’s tragic death, her transi...

Mar 05, 202543 minSeason 7Ep. 5

The King of Cross: A Discussion with Larry Pozner, a Leading Expert on Cross-Examination

Send us a text Larry Pozner is perhaps the most sought-after teacher of cross-examination strategy and tactics. In over 400 lectures, he has taught generations of lawyers how to more effectively conduct this most important of courtroom examinations—what John Henry Wigmore, the legal scholar of evidence, called the "greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth." Larry’s book, Cross-Examination: Science and Techniques, which he co-authored with Roger Dodd, is America's best-selli...

Feb 20, 202552 minSeason 7Ep. 4

Representing People with Mental Disabilities: Elizabeth Kelley Returns to the JustPod to Discuss the Second Edition of her Book

Send us a text We welcomed back Elizabeth Kelley (who previously joined us on Nov 16, 2023), to talk about the recent publication of the second edition of her book, Representing People with Mental Disabilities: A Practical Guide for Criminal Defense Lawyers , published by the American Bar Association. The book is a collection of 19 essays by lawyers, scholars, and clinical experts in the field of mental health and criminal defense. Elizabeth Kelley is also the Editor of the volumes Representing ...

Feb 07, 202544 minSeason 7Ep. 3

What's it like to lead a death penalty “Execution Team”? A discussion with retired Prison Warden Ron McAndrew and Dr. Shanker Nesathurai

Send us a text Ever wondered about the mental health toll on members of a death penalty “Execution Team”? We discuss this topic and others on the JustPod with two men who are both familiar with the practice of lethal injection, but for very different reasons. Ron McAndrew is a retired Warden at Florida State Prison, where he led the Execution Team, supervised the execution of three inmates by electric chair, and observed the execution of others by lethal injection, before becoming a death penalt...

Feb 03, 20251 hr 5 minSeason 7Ep. 2

The State of Prosecutorial Independence and Prosecutorial Discretion

Send us a text Earlier this year, in February 2024, the ABA launched its Prosecutorial Independence Task Force. Two of our guests, Professor Ellen Yaroshefsky (Hofstra Law School), and John Choi (Ramsey County Attorney in Ramsey County, Minnesota), are co-chairs of the Task Force. John has the distinction of being the first Korean American Chief Prosecutor in the United States. Our third guest, J. Charles (“Charlie”) Smith III, is the State’s Attorney for Frederick County, Maryland, and is the l...

Jan 09, 202559 minSeason 7Ep. 1

White Collar Talks: Discussion with Michael E. Horowitz, Inspector General of the U.S. Department of Justice

Send us a text Joe Whitley and Nina Marino speak with Michael E. Horowitz , Inspector General of the United States Department of Justice. Previously having served a six-year term as a Commissioner of the U.S. Sentencing Commission (2003-2009), Mr. Horowitz was sworn in on April 16, 2012 as Inspector General, following his confirmation by the U.S. Senate. As Inspector General, Mr. Horowitz oversees 500+ special agents, auditors, inspectors, attorneys, and support staff nationwide. Since 2020 he h...

Dec 17, 202436 minSeason 3Ep. 4

A murder-for-hire allegation, within a public corruption trial, and a notable acquittal—all in the tropical District of Hawaii: Our discussion with Nina Marino

Send us a text Our guest is the founding partner of the white collar criminal defense boutique Kaplan Marino, and co-host of our sister podcast, the ABA’s “White Collar Talks with Nina and Joe.” She is the recipient of the American Bar Association Criminal Justice Section's (CJS) Charles English Award, the highest accolade for excellence in criminal justice, and recently secured an unusual verdict of acquittal in a federal public corruption case in the District of Hawaii. We’re thrilled to welco...

Nov 19, 202450 minSeason 6Ep. 11

White Collar Talks with Nina & Joe: Discussion with William Hochul Jr.

Send us a text Join us for another "White Collar Talks" podcast as Joe Whitley and Nina Marino interview William J. Hochul, Jr., a former United States Attorney and former General Counsel of a highly diversified, government-regulated global business. Mr. Hochul was also a prior member of the Board of Directors of a large healthcare provider and employer. Recently joining the law firm of Davis Polk, Mr. Hochul shares his experiences throughout his career and his transition to private practice....

Nov 11, 202452 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Dismantling Mass Incarceration: A Handbook for Change – Discussion with Premal Dharia

Send us a text Premal Dharia is Executive Director of the Institute to End Mass Incarceration at Harvard Law School. She was previously a public defender and Director of Litigation for the Civil Rights Corps. She has been a frequent contributor to major publications such as The Washington Post, Slate, and CNN, on issues of criminal justice and racial disparities in the criminal justice system. Premal joined Justin and Geonard to discuss the recently published volume, "Dismantling Mass Incarcerat...

Nov 06, 202449 minSeason 6Ep. 12

White Collar Talks: The Southeastern White Collar Crime Institute - How It Started and Why You Should Be There

Send us a text Brian McEvoy, a former federal prosecutor and current white collar criminal defense lawyer with BakerHostetler, joins Nina Marino (KaplanMarino) and Joe Whitley (Womble Bond Dickinson) to discuss the Tenth Annual Southeastern White Collar Crime Institute (September 4-6, in Braselton, GA) and how it came to be. They also discuss why it is worth attending this conference, how it is different from other programs nationwide, memorable moments from past years, social networking opportu...

Aug 20, 202435 minSeason 3Ep. 2

Prosecutor-Initiated Resentencing: A Discussion with Hillary Blout

Send us a text In 1997, Peter Heyberger was convicted of residential burglary and attempted residential burglary. It was his third conviction, and so, under California’s “Three Strikes” law, Mr. Heyberger’s minimum sentence was 25 years to life in prison. He was sentenced to 65-years to life. In 2019, California passed HB 2942—a Prosecutor-Initiated Resentencing bill that gave California prosecutors the discretion to reevaluate past cases and recommend lower sentences. And so it was, in 2020, th...

Aug 07, 202444 minSeason 6Ep. 10

Defending Justice: The Challenges of Public Defense in Pennsylvania with Sara Jacobson & Julia Burke

Send us a text The right to counsel in criminal cases is, by now, well established in a series of United States Supreme Court precedents. And yet, local jurisdictions have for too long found themselves under-resourced, and out-gunned in their quest to provide not just constitutionally sufficient and competent representation, but excellent representation—free of charge to indigent criminal defendants. Pennsylvania, until as recently as December 2023, was one of only two states in the nation, the ...

Jun 13, 202445 minSeason 6Ep. 9

Professor Saul Kassin & Professor Jules Epstein: False Confessions

Send us a text Confessions by criminal defendants are regarded as the most powerful evidence of guilt. So why would an innocent person confess to a crime they did not commit? That question and the troubling issue of false confessions is at the heart of the research of Professor Saul Kassin, the author of Duped: Why Innocent People Confess – and Why We Believe Their Confessions . Professor Kassin is the distinguished Professor of Psychology at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice and Professo...

Jun 06, 202455 minSeason 6Ep. 8

Locked Within: The Hidden Realities of Solitary Confinement with Keramet Reiter & Oneg Ben Dror

Send us a text The prospect of long-term solitary confinement, being housed alone in custody for months and sometimes even years, is daunting for criminal defendants and their counsel. In May 2023, two public interest organizations, The Italian Association Antigone and the Israeli organization, Physicians for Human Rights Israel, proposed the International Guiding Statement on Alternatives to Solitary Confinement. We are pleased to have with us two guests: Professor Keramet Reiter & Oneg Ben...

May 30, 202440 minSeason 6Ep. 7

Daniel Kaplan on Justice Barrett's Scalia-esque Influence on Criminal Justice Cases

Send us a text On September 26, 2020, then-President Donald Trump nominated Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the United States Supreme Court. Upon confirmation, Justice Barrett took the seat of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who had passed away one week before Justice Barrett's nomination. Writing in the Fall 2023 issue of the Criminal Justice Magazine, Daniel Kaplan observes that Justice Barrett's voting pattern in the court's criminal cases has been notably Scalia-esque. That's perhaps not surprising,...

May 09, 202442 minSeason 6Ep. 6

A Discussion with Professor Lucian Dervan on the Urgent Need for Plea Bargain Reform

Send us a text Our guest is Professor Lucian Dervan, the founding Director of the Plea Bargaining Institute and a Professor of Law and Director of Criminal Justice Studies at Belmont University College of Law in Nashville, TN. Professor Dervan is co-chair of the ABA's Criminal Justice Section Plea Bargaining Taskforce and co-author of the forthcoming book, "The Cost of Bargains: Reflections and Recommendations" from the Section's Plea Bargaining Task Force. Read the Fourteen Principles and a Pat...

Apr 18, 202448 minSeason 6Ep. 5

Progressive Justice: Inside the Office of Philadelphia DA, Larry Krasner

Send us a text Larry Krasner is a former criminal defense and civil rights lawyer who has become one of the most high profile inner city District Attorneys to lead the city prosecutor’s office of any major city. He has made waves for his controversial—and some would say progressive—policy positions on hot button issues like mass incarceration, decriminalization of minor drug possession, police misconduct, and wrongful convictions. He was first elected as District Attorney for Philadelphia in 201...

Mar 21, 202452 minSeason 6Ep. 4

Jeff Grant’s Remarkable Recovery from Addiction and His Return, from Federal Prison, to the Life of the Law

Send us a text It takes about 3 hours to drive from Greenwich, Connecticut to the Federal Correctional Institution, Allenwood Low in Pennsylvania. Jeffery D. Grant knows this because he took that drive on an Easter Sunday in 2006. A lawyer whose life has taken a wrong turn on the road to addiction, Jeff Grant left the upscale life he had cultivated in Connecticut to enter what would be his new home for the duration of his 18-month Federal criminal sentence. The story of his rise, fall, and redem...

Feb 22, 202442 minSeason 6Ep. 3

Marsha Levick and Kristin Henning-Juvenile Justice

Send us a text Our guests have spent their careers advocating for some of the most vulnerable citizens in our country's legal system-our nation's children. Kristin Henning is the Blume Professor of Law and Director of the Juvenile Justice Clinic Initiative at Georgetown Law School and the author of "The Rage of Innocence: How America Criminalizes Black Youth". Marsha Levick is the co-founder and Chief Legal Officer of the Juvenile Law Center, which has been advocating for young people's rights f...

Feb 08, 202447 minSeason 6Ep. 2

White Collar Talks with Nina & Joe: Corporate Monitors

Send us a text In this episode, Joe Whitley and Lynsey Barron discuss corporate monitorships with Ling-Ling Nie, who is the Deputy General Counsel, Chief Compliance & ESG Officer, Head of Government Affairs at Aura and Scott Marrah, Partner at White Collar Criminal Defense & Internal Investigations at Kilpatrick Townsend.

Jan 18, 202449 minSeason 3Ep. 1

A Fireside Chat with Gurbir Grewal, the Director of the Enforcement Division at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission

Send us a text Gurbir Grewal has been the Director of the Enforcement Division at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission since 2001. Prior to that, he had the distinction of being the first Sikh American to be Attorney General in any of the fifty states, and only the second South Asian to hold such an office after the former Attorney General of California, Kamala Harris. Gurbir was the Chief Prosecutor of Bergen County in New Jersey, and before that the Head of the Economic Crimes Unit in t...

Jan 11, 202440 minSeason 6Ep. 1
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