It’s new chapters and heartfelt endings on this episode of Of Horses and Men with Lesley and Ben. Folks, I was the Ben of that. And I was the Lesley. This was a podcast about Netflix original comedy series Bojack Horseman. Lesley and Ben are saying goodbye to Of Horses and Men, but not to each other.or to podcasting! We’re just switching up the topic a little bit. We have a new, broader show on the horizon: Syndicated with Lesley and Ben - an exploration on television and genre that’ll be launch...
Jul 21, 2020•57 min
It’s a rough one! Coming off the heels of a fun and sexy romp, Lesley and Ben sit down to talk about gun violence in America, the creeping nature of dementia, and neglecting the problems directly in front of you. Don’t worry, they take plenty of time to talk about John Wick and their home cities. I hope you’re ready for a comparison of the relative population size of Austin and Portland! Just as Lenny Turtletaub’s movie studio is about to release Courtney Portnoi’s new mall based revenge flick, ...
Mar 06, 2020•45 min•Season 4Ep. 5
It’s Campaign Season here in Hollywoo as Mr. Peanutbutter continues his ascent to the top by digging a political hole as deep as possible. Tension between the would be governor and journalist wife come to a head when.... *sigh* look it’s the episode where everybody bones and Bojack is trying to help hollyhauk find her mother. It’s Of Horses and Men let’s go. Lesley and Ben less-than-daintily dance around the sensual moments of this episode while talking about the stability of Diane and Mr. Peanu...
Feb 19, 2020•30 min•Season 4Ep. 4
It’s self aggrandizing self pity and missed opportunities on this episode of Of Horses and Men with Lesley and Ben. We talk about asexual representation, democratic means testing, the importance of taking time for yourself in this latest episode. The Mr. Peanutbutter gubernatorial campaign soldiers on with some means tested stances of Fracking while Todd, everyone’s favorite sidekick, runs rampant across Los Angeles running errands for the other members of the cast. When a mysterious stranger sh...
Jan 18, 2020•33 min•Season 4Ep. 3
Unable to cope with anything, Bojack retreats to his family retreat where he intends to just... well the plan isn’t very clear. When a neighbor starts to notice that he’s living in misery, Bojack is forced to confront the choices that brought him here and the decision that may keep him at the lakeside forever - all while the ghosts of the Sugarman family trauma watch on. Ben and Lesley talk about non-linear editing in animation, the myth of hysteria, old timey vocal warbles and specifically Lin ...
Dec 18, 2019•44 min•Season 4Ep. 2
Lesley and Ben kick off the fourth season of Of Horses and Men and Bojack Horseman by talking about the comparative privilege of Mr. Peanutbutter, internet gossip rags and the hesitancy some people have to adopting queer labels. It’s season four, you know the deal by now, surely.The year is 1992, and Vincent D’Onofrio is struggling to perform the break dancing moves necessary to secure his role in Untitled Horsing Around Rip Off. Just as tensions are rising on the set, a young Los Angeles transp...
Nov 13, 2019•34 min•Season 4Ep. 1
It’s Film Industry Golden Statue Satire and the gnawing sense that you’ll never be forgiven for being a monster on this week of Of Horses and Men with Lesley and Ben! Your depressed hosts talk about the precarious perch on which Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter’s marriage is balanced, Bojack’s future in show business and his seemingly nagging desire to run wild with other horses, Princess Caroline’s last minute career change and un-retirement and Todd’s extremely wise financial investments. All this a...
Oct 04, 2019•42 min•Season 3Ep. 13
It's the pains of personal growth and the potential of a very depressed golden retriever on this final season of Bojack Horseman! Ben and Lesley discuss the new trailer for the upcoming two part season of Bojack Horseman! We talk about all the subtle hints about what’s to come woven into this trailer - from Mr. Peanutbutter’s new film to what’s happening with Todd’s family. Is Bojack actually recovering or is he just floating away on a Pink Cloud? What’s the deal with Diane, ringworms and GirlCr...
Oct 02, 2019•36 min
In 2007, Bojack Horseman finds himself outside the dressing room of international pop-star Sara Lynn with a handful of flowers and a teleplay. The stressed celebrity warmly welcomes in Bojack but turns cold when she realizes he’s only there to pitch her a guest spot on his failing tv show. Now, in the modern day, following the death of his friend and coworker Sarah Lynn, Bojack copes with various stages of grief while reconnecting with Diane and agreeing to be in Ethan’s Horsing Around reboot. B...
Sep 05, 2019•40 min•Season 3Ep. 12
Unable to cope with the pain of failure and pushing his friends away, Bojack deals with his trauma the only way he knows how - medicating with booze and party drugs and watching his old television show. This time, however, he’s not alone. His former co-star, Sarah Lynn accompanies him on a manic road trip and apology tour that ends in tragedy.
Aug 14, 2019•30 min•Season 3Ep. 11
Lesley and Ben sit down to talk about the problems of interpersonal relationships when you’re depressed, the dismay of creative publishing and the most important line in the series: “You need to DO better.”The Road to the Oscars is Over. It’s now officially Oscar season. Unsurprisingly, Bojack’s dramatic and moving performance in Secretariat nets him an Oscar nom. Naturally the rockstar movie star throws a massive party to celebrate and in the process, gets in dispute with Diane over their share...
Aug 03, 2019•26 min•Season 3Ep. 10
Ben and Lesley talk about the ambiguity between comedy and drama, the boundaries we have to set because of mental health and trauma and trying to be a better person in light of the things that afflict us. Also there’s a fun bit where we talk about the stereotypical Italian malapropisms. Fun times. Bojack invites Princess Caroline out to the restaurant he owns for an important discussion about their working relationship. What could have been a simple exchange turns in discussions of love, a fight...
Jun 26, 2019•28 min•Season 3Ep. 9
Now that Bojack has a little bit of celebrity under his belt, again, the offers for various projects start pouring into the movie star’s inbox. Bojack has the chance to play a part in a respectable drama by Kelsey Jannings, make a sequel series to his old TV sitcom with Ethan or pursue blockbuster dreams by becoming “The Pegasus.” What ensues is a dramatic game of chess that would rival Game of Thrones. Meanwhile Diane accompanies Mr. Peanutbutter back to his homeland, the Labrador peninsula, an...
May 18, 2019•46 min•Season 3Ep. 8
Lesley and Ben talk about customer service aggression, the malicious failures of big tech solutions, feminist profit motive and why it’s just so darn hard to talk adults in this week of Of Horses and Men with Lesley and Ben. Bojack wakes up outside of his home to find the inside of home filled to the brim with staff, moving boxes and computers for Todd and Emily’s new business: Cabracadabra - a ride share service that’s a safe space for women. Further aggravating the movie star is the LA Gazette...
May 01, 2019•41 min•Season 3Ep. 7
Upon learning about her surprise pregnancy, Diane and Mr. Peanutbutter decide that it would be best if Diane underwent an abortion. Unable to deal with the stress of her upcoming procedure and distracted by Bojack, Diane accidentally tweets about her abortion from her client Sextina Aquafina’s twitter account. Now entrenched in a PR disaster, Diane has to navigate her own future while dealing with Sextina’s flippant approach to the same circumstances. Meanwhile Bojack finds himself on the road t...
Apr 18, 2019•41 min•Season 3Ep. 6
The box office numbers for Secretariat start to roll in - and it looks like Bojack’s dream project is an absolute success. Todd and Bojack go hit the down and, in the process, run into Emily - a old flame and friend of Todd’s from High School. The three of them crash a wedding rehearsal dinner and Bojack sabotages not one, but two relationships as he disrupts a lesbian wedding and any attempt at romantic connection between Todd and Emily. Meanwhile, in couples therapy, Diane discovers that she c...
Mar 21, 2019•56 min•Season 3Ep. 5
It’s an in depth examination of the way we consume media, millennial attention spans, visual storytelling, pantomime, intimacy and loneliness and so much more on this submerged episode of Of Hoses and Men with Lesley and Ben! It’s the underwater episode. As part of his award tour, Bojack Horseman is asked to go get on a plane and attend a premiere of Secretariat in a foreign market. Except that by a plane, she means a submarine and by a foreign market, she means the ocean. Completely unable to c...
Mar 03, 2019•43 min•Season 3Ep. 4
Not to get Marxist on main or anything, but Lesley and Ben tackle happiness culture and the idea that hard work and commodities will make you happy. It’s a very philosophical episode of Of Horses and Men. While hob-nobbing and rubbing elbows with various academy voters, Bojack Horseman is assigned a task of the utmost secrecy by Jill Pill. You see, ahhh, in the past, Jill may have written some compromising words to Cuddlywhiskers, Bojack’s former collaborator and she’d like that love letter back...
Jan 30, 2019•41 min•Season 3Ep. 3
Remember during the previous episode when that one reporter brought up the Bojack Horseman show? And how Jill Pill mentioned Bojack’s /actual/ previous show? Haha what was up with that? It’s time to find out what was up with that! It’s a flash back episode and that means we’re spending plenty of time with all your favorite characters in the distant land of 2007. Hear! Bojack and a large charismatic hamster write a script in one night! See! Mr. Peanutbutter and Diane’s first actual meeting! Feel!...
Jan 24, 2019•53 min•Season 3Ep. 3
The Secretariet Press Tour is underway as Bojack Horseman and Anna Spanakopita go through round after round of press interviews for Bojack’s Oscar bait blockbuster. Bojack gets increasingly defensive when more of the film journalists he’s interviewing with assert that Horsing Around was not a good show. Our star is forced to come to grips with the fact that he has to trash part of his past to move into his future While in New York, the city of dreams, Bojack is courted by Avant Garde playwright ...
Jan 10, 2019•1 hr 1 min•Season 3Ep. 1
It’s abandoned movie projects and comedy cruise lines, the war torn country of Cordovia and the relationships on hiatus, misplaced love affairs and new business ventures, thirty year comas and Di-isneylands on this Season of Of Horses and Men with Lesley and Ben. Your favorite hosts cover their favorite arcs, character growth and pick into the deeper meaning of Bojack Horseman Season Two. Is Bojack really an actor? What does Todd need most of all? What's holding our characters back? All this and...
Dec 12, 2018•44 min•Season 2Ep. 13
Bojack returns from his misadventures in New Mexico and finds his house in ruins. Diane has been crashing at the Horseman estate for months now and her life isn’t the only one is disarray. Princess Caroline is starting a new agency, but her personal relationship with Rabbinowitz is on the fritz. Diane and Peanutbutter still aren’t talking to each other, and Mr. Peanutbutter doesn’t even know his wife is back in the country. Meanwhile Todd is doubling down on his commitment to improv comedy by jo...
Nov 21, 2018•51 min•Season 2Ep. 12
Bojack has gone awol. The star of television of book finds himself on the front step of turquoise shop in New Mexico after seemingly driving all night to see his friend Charlotte. Bojack’s attempts to rekindle a perceived romance are halted when he’s introduced to his old friend’s family: Kyle, Trip and Penny. After a few white lies and a.. very expensive purchase: Bojack starts a new life in New Mexico. Uncle Bojack offers to take Charlotte’s dejected daughter Penny to her prom, but from there ...
Nov 06, 2018•47 min•Season 2Ep. 11
Special guest Johnny Rinaldo returns to talk about one of his favorite arcs of the show! This one got a little goofy, so there's about ten minutes of bonus content up on out patreon for $1/mo Diane is overstaying her welcome at the Horseman household, much to the frustration of Bojack’s other roommate, his girlfriend Wanda, who is barely tolerating Diane’s day drinking and disinterest in cleaning. Speaking of frustration, Bojack finds himself confused that the new director of his movie, Abe, isn...
Nov 02, 2018•59 min•Season 2Ep. 10
Our story begins in the 70s, with a young Bojack watching his hero Secretariat. The racehorse champion is giving an interview about our boys out in Vietnam fighting the good fight against the communists. Secretariat’s patriotic performance seems less than convincing - but it leaves an impression on young Bojack, who upon seeing his hero smoke, tries a cigarette from his mother’s purse. That does not end well. Now in the present, something’s missing from Bojack’s Secretariat movie. Turtletaub has...
Oct 26, 2018•44 min•Season 2Ep. 9
It’s a zany episode this week on of Of Horses and Men! Really full to the brim with Toddfoolery. It’s the first live taping of Wanda, Mr. Peanutbutter and JD Salinger’s game show: Hollywoo Stars and Celebrities: What do they know: Do they know things?: Let’s find out! Bojack is volunteered to be one of the first contestants so that he can support his girlfriend’s ambitions. Mr. Peanutbutter is an intense game show host and his gentle ribbing starts to get under Bojack’s skin, especially when boy...
Oct 17, 2018•45 min•Season 2Ep. 8
We Watched; We Wept; We Recorded. Lesley and Ben have returned from a weekend long binge of the fifth season of Bojack Horseman and we have THOUGHTS. Because we’re covering a whole season at once, we had to keep things in broad strokes. Don’t worry, Lesley and Ben will get to a full analysis of Bojack Horseman Season 5 in a year. Find out what Lesley got right! How thin was the wall between fiction and reality? Who was the stand out character this season? Is this the end? All this and more this ...
Sep 26, 2018•50 min
Content Warning: Discussion of Sexual Misconduct Mr. Peanutbutter is back in show business again! JD Salinger and Wanda have teamed up to air a hot new game show: Hollywoo Stars and Celebrities: What do they know? Do they know things? Let’s find out. Peanutbutter is thrilled, both because of the enormous statue of his own head on set and because he gets to meet his longtime idol: TV legend Hank Hippopopolous. While on a book tour for the paperback edition of One Trick Pony, Diane fields question...
Sep 13, 2018•39 min•Season 2Ep. 7
It's trailers and theories on this episode of OF Horses and Men With Lesley and Ben. It's an emergency recording session because the SEASON FIVE trailer of BOJACK HORSEMAN just went live yesterday. Ben and Lesley scrambled to set up their mics and get Lesley's frame by frame observational analysis and Ben's philosophical musings live to tape for you. Here what we think about the blurred lines between reality and fiction, Princess Caroline's past, Diane's new haircut and whether or not Mr. Peanut...
Sep 05, 2018•38 min
Content Warning: This episode depicts accidental deaths that are visually similar to suicide. This is done in a tongue in cheek way but discussion of said jokes may be harmful to some listeners. Proceed with caution. Mr. Peanutbutter and Todd’s antics at PB Living have landed them in financial ruin. Unable to continue randomly investing into their wildest whims, Peanutbutter goes out and tries to get a job with nothing but a dream in his heart. Unfortunately, his agent has died in an unfortunate...
Sep 05, 2018•41 min•Season 2Ep. 6
