It’s the last episode of the season! We had the pleasure of sitting down with Tiffany Jones, biracial woman and lawyer. Tiffany’s own story starts with her reading list for biracial people and moves from politics into law. Additionally, we chat about being the butt of the joke, acting “white”, friendships to dating, and sage advice for her 12-year-old self.
Oct 21, 2020•1 hr 3 min•Season 2Ep. 18
Friendships can be overlooked in the relationship hierarchy, but they are crucial to our development. So how do multiracial people navigate friendships? Tune in for both Katie’s personal take on friendships and some research about how race plays into forming these types of relationships. Links We Love Multiracial in America - Pew’s research on social connections for multiracial people....
Sep 30, 2020•14 min•Season 2Ep. 17
It’s our last interview focused on romantic relationships! We talk with Sarah and Les, a newlywed, interracial couple, about their recent marriage, how they got to where they are today, and that creeping imposter syndrome. Tune in for all that, plus a cameo from their puppy, Koda.
Sep 16, 2020•41 min•Season 2Ep. 16
Join us for a thought-provoking conversation with Ashleigh Reddy. A proud Black and Indian woman, Ashleigh gets real about her experiences dating as a biracial woman and her friendships in both the Black and South Asian communities. We learn that no matter who you choose to spend time with, you are always 100% whole and should be treated as such. Plus, we talk about Kamala Harris and her historic achievement as the first Black and Indian woman on a major party presidential ticket. Links We Like:...
Aug 19, 2020•49 min•Season 2Ep. 15
We spoke with Sonia Kang, founder and owner of Mixed Up Clothing, a fashion company highlighting multiracial families and experiences. An African American and Mexican woman, Sonia shares her candid advice about navigating her 15 year marriage to her Korean husband, including the good and the complex. We also dive into her company, Mixed Up Clothing, and how she’s been able to leverage fashion to empower the multiracial community and conversations with family and friends during this racial reckon...
Aug 05, 2020•50 min•Season 2Ep. 14
We get into the true emotional heart of romantic relationships. What’s it like to date someone outside of your race? We cover both interracial dating and dating as a biracial person in this episode. Listen in to discover our couple inspirations, the pressure interracial couples can feel, and the complexities of dating as biracial. Links We Love: We agree that “ For Interracial Couples, Advocacy is a Love Language .” Key & Peele explain why dating as biracial is complicated .Black women share...
Jul 22, 2020•20 min•Season 2Ep. 13
The relationship we’ve all been waiting for - dating! Well, sort of. We’re setting the stage for one of the most tangled relationships, dating, by covering a history of interracial relationships and marriage. Join Katie as she goes back to the 1600s to trace the path of interracial unions from Pocahontas up to present day with Insecure’s Asian Bae. Sources: Interracial Marriage in “Post-Racial” America by Jessica Vinas-Nelson Court Cases: Perez v. Sharp (1947); Loving v. Virginia (1967)...
Jul 08, 2020•19 min•Season 2Ep. 12
Last episode we talked about how multiracial people can show up as allies to the Black community. This episode we ask a Black man directly. Join us for an examination of allyship with Curtis about how he wants others to show up for his community.
Jun 24, 2020•42 min•Season 2Ep. 11
Everyone has a role to play right now in advancing racial justice and ending police brutality. Listen to this episode to learn how to show up as allies for the Black community.
Jun 10, 2020•30 min•Season 2Ep. 10
We’re taking a much needed self-care break with Roxy of Coastal Curl. She’s Black and Persian (aka “blersian”) and we talk about her upbringing in SoCal, self care during the pandemic, and her haircare business, Coastal Curl, that she’s had to pivot recently. Tune in to get the download on self-care from a Blersian!
May 28, 2020•45 min•Season 2Ep. 9
This week, we’re searching for Katie’s ancestors. Inspired by a recent project, Katie discusses how tenuous ties between people who have come before us can feel closer than ever. Tune in for a discussion on how the past informs the future, genealogy, and a crash course in Cabo Verdian history. Ancestry for Black People Exists! I had a blast searching newspaper archives from the New England area, in particular Falmouth . These whaling records fascinated me....
May 13, 2020•28 min•Season 2Ep. 8
Katie talks with her mom about parenting. Tune in for a discussion on Cape Verdean identity and what it was really like raising Katie. Perfect timing for when we all want some parental assurance during these uncertain times.
Apr 30, 2020•44 min•Season 2Ep. 7
Katie brings in reinforcements for this week’s episode. She talks with friend and parent of multiracial children, Marc Perry. Tune in to hear a conversation about how identity affects children's upbringing, kids asking the darndest questions, and our hope for parents confronting what can be a joyous and intimidating experience.
Apr 16, 2020•49 min•Season 2Ep. 6
We’re entering unchartered territories today - parenting! Katie is no parent, but she knows that this topic cannot be ignored when the season is dedicated to relationships. This episode is all about framing the experience of raising multiracial children in anticipation of our super parent guests over the next few weeks. Have questions about raising a multiracial child? We aim to demystify the topic.
Mar 25, 2020•17 min•Season 2Ep. 5
We’re getting deep into the science behind multiracial people in today’s episode. Dr. Sarah Gaither, Assistant Professor of Social & Developmental Psychology at Duke, joins us to talk about how multiracial people differ in social interactions and some of her exciting research. Tune in to hear about the advantages of being multiracial that you can brag about to your friends, as well as a cool, new acronym you can throw around: BIRGing.
Mar 11, 2020•22 min•Season 2Ep. 4
Have you ever passed before? This week’s episodes dives deep into passing, including its history, literary studies, and more public manifestations. Also on our mind - Megxit, Apple+ TV’s new show Central Park, and the MixedRaceFaces project.
Feb 26, 2020•18 min•Season 2Ep. 3
In today’s episode, Katie talks with Dr. Michele Foss Snowden, a professed TV lover and Professor of Communications. Tune in for how her love of TV helped her understand her identity, recommendations for her favorite TV shows featuring the multiracial experience, and a discussion on how feeling seen is so critical to confidence.
Feb 12, 2020•46 min•Season 2Ep. 2
It’s the launch of season 2! This season we’re talking everything relationships - and we mean everything. This first episode is all about the relationship multiracial people have with the media. We cover Kamala Harris’ presidential campaign, Meghan Markle, and how the tragic mulatto trope continues to pervade TV.
Jan 29, 2020•23 min•Season 2Ep. 1
It’s the season one finale! Katie pays homage to other creators/creatives covering multiracial stories (looking at you The Curl Talk Project and Halu Halo!). She ends the season talking about the injustices toward Amara La Negra and Ms. Janet Jackson and her hope for Wakanda. Sources: Mean Tweets About Stormi Jenner's Skin Color Are Seriously Not OK The Curl Talk Project and on Instagram Halu Halo Amara La Negra breaks down colorism on The Breakfast Club Still Processing covers Nipplegate Music:...
Feb 12, 2018•26 min•Season 1Ep. 14
Katie's "traveling" all the way to London this week to talk to fellow beige buddy, Lelani. We talk what it’s like growing up as a multiracial Londoner, British values and the royal family, our new race bible Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge, and, of course, hair (Hi @thecurltalkproject). Sources: Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race Lelani’s Recommended Products: Devacurl & Moroccan Oil The Curl Talk Project and on Instagram Music: Blank...
Jan 29, 2018•53 min•Season 1Ep. 13
Let’s talk about hair! This week, Katie explores curly hair and its significance to black and multiracial cultures. She also shares her own hair story and some tips and product suggestions. Sources: Hair It Is: Examining the Experiences of Black Women with Natural Hair "I am Not my Hair! Or am I?": Black Women's Transformative Experience in their Self Perceptions of Abroad and at Home Curl Crush on Facebook The Curl Talk Project Vernon Francois’s Curly Hair Routine Music: Blank and Kytt - RSPN...
Jan 15, 2018•16 min•Season 1Ep. 12
Katie calls in the expert on being male and mixed, her brother David. They talk about identifying as black and multiracial, racial imposter syndrome, and some controversial family topics. And no conversation is complete without a heart to heart about Drake. Music: Blank and Kytt - RSPN
Jan 02, 2018•25 min•Season 1Ep. 11
Katie addresses a blind spot in her episodes thus far. Exploring a study that shows young men are less likely to identify as biracial, she ponders what it’s like for Drake and her brother. Also, have you heard of digital blackface? It’s about time! Sources: Here’s the full biracial young men study for all you nerds craving scientific research Dropping the knowledge with Drake’s Know Yourself Internetting with Amanda Hess on Digital Blackface Teen Vogue’s Lauren Michelle Jackson explains Digital ...
Dec 18, 2017•12 min•Season 1Ep. 10
Katie interviews Julie Lythcott-Haims, the author of Real American: A Memoir and former Dean of the Freshman at Stanford University where she was known as “Dean Julie.” They talk about stereotypes like “oreos” and angry black women, the committee that anoints black people, language and black literary mothers, and whether there is hope for America. Photo credit: Kristina-Vetter Sources: Buy Real American: A Memoir from my favorite bookstore Read more on Julie’s black literary mother Lucille Clift...
Dec 04, 2017•43 min•Season 1Ep. 8
In this week’s episode, Katie tackles the stereotypes multiracial people face. She also shares some of the developing research around multiracial people, discusses Ta-Nehisi Coates’ SF appearance (!!!), and finds all sorts of treasures on social media (looking at you Hannah Bronfman and Elaine Weltreroth). Music: Blank and Kytt - RSPN Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS) Sources: National Geographic ’s Changing Face of America Ta-Nehisi Coates drops some knowledge on the n-word Colin Kaepernick is GQ's Ci...
Nov 20, 2017•20 min•Season 1Ep. 7
Katie talks with her cousin Anamaria in Atlanta. They discuss being mixed blacks (black people aren’t monolithic!), the time Anamaria spent in black hair salons, and differences between California and Atlanta. Anamaria also shares her love of Cardi B and the show Atlanta. Cardi B gets engaged If you want to dive into Atlanta
Nov 06, 2017•41 min•Season 1Ep. 6
Katie talks about what it is to be black in America. She explores the stereotypes and competing definitions of blackness, while sharing her own journey to identify as a black woman and some of the community’s “secrets”. Also, we celebrate Cardi B, black TV shows, and discuss Julie Lythcott-Haim’s Real American. Music: Blank and Kytt - RSPN Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS) Sources: Katie critiques Disintegration by Eugene Robinson Cardi B’s race is confusing people black-ish’s Bow grapples with being b...
Oct 23, 2017•24 min•Season 1Ep. 5
Katie and Sarah unpack whiteness as a mixed race person. They discuss Sarah’s story as a mixed race adoptee in a white family, what it feels like to have your race “outed”, black icons, the loneliness of being mixed race, and educating white people on issues important to people of color. Music: Blank and Kytt - RSPN Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS) - fh-sk-Fmaj-1 Sources: Sing along to MJ with Sarah Madame CJ Walker is a badass bitch...
Oct 09, 2017•49 min•Season 1Ep. 4
Katie gets real about whiteness. She talks about her mistaken assumption of being white, the language of white fragility, getting #woke, Ta-Nehisi Coates “The First White President”, and how Queen Rihanna has blessed us. Music: Blank and Kytt - RSPN Marc Perry (aka Holy MTNS) - You’re Not Alone Sources: Diving deep into the language of white fragility This woman breaks down white privilege Unpack your invisible knapsack Code Switch’s episode on Racial Imposter Syndrome Erykah Badu ensuring we al...
Sep 25, 2017•39 min•Season 1Ep. 3
Katie interviews Taylor Bernal , social media guru and fellow mixed girl. They talk growing up mixed in predominately white neighborhoods (not far from one another), answering the question “what are you?”, and their transformation of identity. Plus, Taylor keeps up with the Kardashians (Wests). Music: Blank and Kytt - RSPN Marc Perry - fh-sk-BY Sources: Janet Mock talks mixed race children with Kim Kardashian West in Interview Magazine North also has an interview , which is pretty adorable Watch...
Sep 11, 2017•33 min•Season 1Ep. 2