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WW 950: Coding Makes Me Cry - Will Microsoft Listen to Consumer Reports' Plea?

Sep 17, 20252 hr 30 minEp. 950
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With Windows 10's end-of-life looming, Paul and Leo dissect the real risks, questionable hardware requirements, and whether dumping old PCs in landfills is an acceptable trade-off for modern security. Plus, why is Apple finally buying up touchscreen displays for MacBooks after years of resistance, and what could that mean for the future of both Mac and Windows hardware?

Windows

  • Consumer Reports asks Microsoft to continue Windows 10 support
  • Reminder: Windows 11 25H2 ISOs are available... x64 only, in Insider Preview. Arm version is from Dev channel and is a VHDX
  • Dev (25H2) and Beta (24H2) - Copilot prompt in Click to Do, Prompt recommendations in Start, controller navigation for gaming handhelds, SCOOBE, agents in the Store, more
  • Release Preview (24H2 AND 25H2) - Click to Do table detection, action tags, and Summarize improvements; agent in Settings improvements, Hardware indicator improvements, more
  • Quick Machine Recovery is a solid addition to your recovery toolbox
  • Microsoft releases Windows 365 Cloud Apps in Preview
  • A MacBook with a touch screen? Oh the irony

Microsoft 365

  • Microsoft finally settles Teams antitrust case with EU and you're not going to believe what happens next
  • Microsoft 365 desktop apps (i.e. "Office") gets Copilot chat even for free - Web grounded? That's ungrounded, right?
  • Microsoft 365 commercial pulls in previously separate sales, service, and financial services
  • Outlook Lite is heading off to a farm to chase rabbits
  • No more Office file editing in Microsoft 365 Copilot app for iPhone and iPad

AI

  • OpenAI and Microsoft hint at another major restructuring of their partnership
  • Auto AI model selection comes to Visual Studio Code. Your orchestration is showing
  • Visual Studio 2026 on .NET Rocks and the recent news about configuring GitHub Copilot in VS 20xx.

Hardware

  • October is going to be a big month for new hardware
  • Apple rumored for October
  • Google Home on October 1 with Gemini
  • Amazon devices (September 30, close enough)
  • Where are the next-gen PC chips?

Xbox & games

  • Third-party store integration comes to Xbox app on Windows
  • Microsoft kicks off another big half month for Xbox Game Pass
  • Epic Games can't stop beating Google in court

Tips & Picks

  • Tip of the week: Improve Windows 11 security
  • App pick of the week: Google app for Windows

Hosts: Leo Laporte and Paul Thurrott

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Should Microsoft Keep Supporting Windows 10 Beyond 2025? Primary Navigation Podcasts Club Blog Subscribe Sponsors More… Tech Should Microsoft Keep Supporting Windows 10 Beyond 2025?

Sep 18th 2025

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Microsoft is officially ending support for Windows 10 in October 2025, a move that impacts hundreds of millions of PC users worldwide. On this episode of Windows Weekly, Leo Laporte and Paul Thurrott explain the significance of this decision, the pressure from organizations like Consumer Reports to extend support, and what users can do to protect themselves once updates stop.

Why Is Windows 10 Support Ending Now—And Who’s Affected?

Microsoft announced back in 2015 that Windows 10 would receive updates until October 14, 2025. On the show, Paul Thurrott explained that a 10-year lifecycle has long been standard for Windows releases. Despite ample warning, this deadline now feels all too real for the roughly 700 million computers still running Windows 10, many of which are in homes, schools, medical offices, and small organizations.

End of support means Microsoft stops releasing security updates and bug fixes for Windows 10. Vulnerabilities discovered after this date will remain unpatched—making these devices increasingly risky to use online. While business customers can buy extended support for three more years, this comes at an added cost; home users will only get one grace year.

Consumer Reports recently sent a letter to Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella asking for longer support, partly because many users bought PCs in recent years expecting they could upgrade to Windows 11. However, as Paul points out, most new PCs shipped with Windows 11 since its 2021 launch, so truly recent buyers may already be on the latest version. Still, it’s undeniable that a massive number of everyday users, especially those with older hardware, are now facing a tough choice.

What Are the Risks of Using Windows 10 After Support Ends?

According to Paul and Leo on Windows Weekly, once Microsoft stops updating Windows 10:

Unpatched security vulnerabilities put your device and personal data at higher risk.Most users will keep using Windows 10 anyway, often unaware of the risks.Outdated PCs can become “weak links” that attackers use to target broader online systems.

Third-party companies like Mozilla (Firefox browser) may continue offering some support for older Windows versions, but this is not a long-term fix.

What Can You Do: Upgrade, Switch, or Secure Your PC?

The hosts laid out several paths for users as the deadline approaches:

Upgrade to Windows 11—If Your PC Allows

Windows 11 requires newer hardware, including features like TPM 2.0 security. Many older PCs don’t meet these stricter requirements. While workarounds exist (unsupported installations), they’re not officially recommended or future-safe.

Consider Linux or Chrome OS Flex for Older Computers

For PCs that can’t run Windows 11, Linux distributions or Chrome OS Flex are viable options. These provide secure, regularly updated operating systems, though they require some technical know-how and adjustment.

Use Third-party Antivirus and Limit High-risk Activities

If you continue using Windows 10 past support, install robust antivirus software and avoid risky online activities. However, this is not as safe as ongoing OS-level security updates.

Donate or Recycle Old PCs

Charities like Digitunity refurbish and distribute PCs with Linux for communities in need, minimizing e-waste and landfill impact.

Why Can’t Microsoft Support Windows 10 Longer?

According to Paul on Windows Weekly, maintaining old operating systems splits resources, complicates updates, and fragments the ecosystem, making everyone less safe. Microsoft’s focus is now on pushing forward with more secure, modernized platforms, especially as Windows faces increasing competition from simple, secure alternatives like iPads and Chromebooks. The hard truth: supporting older hardware indefinitely is not sustainable for any major tech company.

What You Need to Know

Windows 10 support ends on October 14, 2025No more security updates after this date for most home usersBillions of devices could be left vulnerable unless upgraded or migratedUpgrading to Windows 11 may require new hardwareLinux or Chrome OS Flex lets you repurpose old PCsThird-party antivirus helps but doesn’t fully compensate for lost updatesDonating or recycling devices helps reduce landfill wasteExtended paid support exists for businesses, but not for most consumers

What Microsoft Ending Windows 10 Support Means for You

With support for Windows 10 ending soon, all users need to act—whether by upgrading, switching to a new OS, or ramping up security measures. While calls for longer support continue, Microsoft’s position appears firm. If you rely on an older PC, start planning now to avoid security headaches down the line.

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