UNCUT! ALL the Evidence of Joe Biden's Corruption with James Comer

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We were going to do is put unedited the entire three part series with James Comber together. This is going to be very big in when Congress comes back into session, it's going to have an awful lot to deal with the investigations into the Biden crime family. If there's any story from twenty twenty three that's going to move into twenty twenty four, it's going to be this story. And that's why we want to make sure that if you did miss any of those three part series with James Comber,

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And I hope that you will take that time with your family to talk to your kids, your grandkids about the true meaning of Christmas. It has become obviously so commercialized, and I just want to say, please take that moment remind them what this season is all about. So again to you and your family, Merry Christmas. And here is our unedited three part series all together with James Comer Center.

And I want you to introduce your good friend, well, James, welcome back to verdict. This is this is your second time that you've been with us. We had you earlier this year for a two part series in which we broke down and you went through the details of the very systematic investigation you're leading in the House. We're now at the end of the year, and so we're coming back for yet another multi part series, UH to really get into the substance. And and a lot has been

Yeah, So, obviously a lot of these people that we've asked for interviews and depositions, they're trying to use the holiday as an excuse why they can't come in and do it. So we decided we would make it more convenient on them and send our staff to depose them

But they were going to have to.

Pay Jim Biden first, and they gave him six hundred thousand dollars. And by all accounts, Jim Biden completely defrauded America War Health. He never provided any funding or anything else. But what ironic about this for Joe Biden. Not only was that a pure example of influence pedaling, Joe Biden received the last payment from Americal Health, they sent a

So that should be very interesting.

It's interesting you didn't mention the name Hunter Biden in that story of influence pedaling. That is the part that I think many Americans have maybe not understood, which is this, this is the entire family that's been involved in getting paid. Can you go into that a little bit more about about James Biden, not just Hunter.

Yeah, I think James Biden probably committed just as many crimes as Hunter Biden. The only reason we don't know about James Biden is he didn't leave a laptop linery. We've been able to subpoena his bank records, and I can tell you there's a lot of questions we have for Jameis Biden. That's why he received the subpoena. We're working with his attorney and we hope to have him in in January. But at the end of the day, this example with AmeriCorps help sure looks like securities fraud.

So Americal Health paid Jim Biden six hundred thousand dollars. As best you can tell, did Jim Biden perform any any service for them, do anything of value for them?

According to the court records, America or Health says no other than he went there and you know, made all these promises that you know, Joe Biden's contacts they would work together and help them get all the money from the Middle East.

But they never got any This is.

They never got a penny. They never got one penny. And it looks like Senator on Jim Biden's bank statements they tried to say that six hundred thousand dollars payment was alone. And I think that's a very important aspect of our investigation because from the notes that the whistleblowers have turned over.

We know that.

You know, sometime in twenty eighteen, the Bidens figured out that the IRS was breathing down their necks. They knew that they had all these suspicious activity reports from the banks that were accusing them money laundering and having shell companies and potentially taking bribes, and they changed the way they were operating, and they went from receiving wires directly through the shells to receiving payments and calling them loans.

So you would do that. I want to stop and unpack a lot of that. So we hear from the Democrats, we hear from the corrupt corporate media. There's no evidence, no evidence, no evidence, especially no evidence of Joe Biden's involvement. So I want to break down because you had a lot of substance there on the shell companies. How many Biden shell companies did y'all uncover?

Twenty And let me make sure everyone understands this. A shell company is a company with no assets and no known purpose. So the bank email that we released two weeks ago showed the bank examiners saying, you know, they got this wire from China, and he says it's an investment company, but it's an investment company with no investments, and then the account that it went through was essentially

So shell companies. They're not real businesses. This is not a dry cleaner, this is not a gas station. They're no employees, there are no paychecks. They're not a business in any sense. This is a legal entity, and it's a legal entity created to send money to and it's what is often used for money laundering. It's what's often

A suspicious activity report is when the bank notifies the Treasury Cabinet that they believe their client may have committed a crime.

Now, I want everyone to understand this.

Banks don't just do this nonchalantly, like the Washington Post tried to say, No bank wants to file a suspicious activity report center, because when you do, that invites the bank examiners to come in and investigate you. And the last thing a bank wants to do is the bank examiners walked through the front door. The Bidens had one hundred and seventy suspicious activity reports filed against them, which is unprecedented.

I was a director of a bank for over a decade.

Never has anyone received more than one or two that was affiliated with my bank. And the fact that this family got one hundred and seventy from six different banks on dozens of different accounts showed that there's something bad going on here. Because the banks are notifying the Treasury. I'm sorry, Treasury, we believe the Vice president's family are involved in some top of fraud.

Well, and James, let me make sure. Let me make sure I understand this. Suspicious activity reports are relatively rare. There's something that the bank files with the Treasury Department when they believe there may be evidence of criminal conduct.

That's exactly right. And we released an email last week that kind of showed the thought process by a bank examiner was he was communicating with his super barrier and in the end they filed a suspicious activity report, and this email kind of outlines it. The Banker's Center said, wait a minute. You know this account is pretty much dormant. We don't know what this company is. All we know is that the president's son owns it. He got a five million dollar wire from China. We had to contact

Any, which is ridiculous.

No one would loan anyone five million dollars without having some type of loan documentation. So then he said, we feared this could be a bribe, because we know China influences politicians through vulnerable family members, and we've seen in the mews where his ex wife said he was on drugs, he was in financial trouble. We believe this could be a real national security threat. That the serious of an email as I've ever seen from a major bank examiner.

Yeah, look, that is very serious. And of course CNN doesn't cover that, MSNBC doesn't cover that, ABC, CBS, NBC, the corporate media, that email doesn't exist. Now. Now, one of the things as far as the corporate media is concerned, one of the things that you mentioned a minute ago that I want to stop and drill down on a little bit. You said, early on the Biden family business, they would just get wires from overseas that were payments

That change started happening somewhere mid twenty eighteen, and from twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen they were pretty consistent. They would, you know, after Joe Biden would meet with these people, or a hunter would fly on Air Force two, or Joe would talk to them on the phone or have lunch with them. Then money would flow through the shell companies, and then they would disperse the money through the shell

And secondly, and this.

Is the most obvious, you don't have to pay taxes on if it's a loan. And that's why I always said, we're going to follow the bank records. We're going to go with the bank statements in lieu of the tax returns, because there's nowhere on your tax return does it show you have a loan. There's a place on your tax return to show where you pay loan interest, mortgage interest, or if you loan someone money, you receive interest, but there's nowhere on your tax returns would it say alone.

They called it loan.

So fourteen million was the amount of loans you found so.

Far, Yes, for Jim and Hunter Biden.

And look, just to underscore what you said, because it's important. By calling it a loan. Number one, you don't have to report it to the IRS. Number two, you don't have to pay taxes to the IRS. But but of course it's got to be a real loan. It can't be just fraud. And all right, I've gotten loans over the course of my life. I've got a mortgage on my house. Now, the mortgage on my house, the collateral is my house. I've gotten car notes. I borrow money to buy a car. The collateral on the car note

Well, and I understand loans. Thank god, there's no loan documentation. We've asked for loan documentation. They won't produce loan documentation. It doesn't appear they had anywhere near fourteen million dollars in asset.

So if you get fourteen million.

Dollars in loans, you really need to have about eighteen or nineteen million dollars in assets, because that's the way that the banking rules are. You've got to have more than enough or you would be underwater. So but here's the most concerning thing. Going through their bank records, they've received all this money that they call loans. There are hardly any loan repayments, any principal payments, and no interest payment.

All right, so this goes back.

To twenty eighteen principal payment.

Twenty eighteen, they start getting loans, they get fourteen million dollars of loans. You're saying from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty three, that's five years. There are very very few loan repayments at all, either principal or interest. In other words, this is some sort of magic loan that you don't need collateral for, you don't have to pay back, and it sure is helpful if you want to, say, buy a lot of crack and prostitutes, if you don't have

That's exactly right? It looked like one loan for half a million dollars to one of the bidens. They may have paid one hundred and ten thousand dollars back with no interest. The rest of the fourteen million dollars we can't find where they've made a single payment and not a kenny of it.

But by the way, do they dispute this? Does Hunter claim no, no, I pay that back? Does Jim Biden claim no, I pay that back or do they dispute what you're saying.

Well, we we're going to bring them in.

You know, that's one reason we wanted to pose them. But you know, you can look at the bank records and there's no there's no payments back.

Best case scenario, how much of the millions in loans eighteen million do you think they paid back?

If you're being generous, fourteen million, fourteen.

Million, I mean one hundred and ten thousand.

Wow, it's you know, good to be a Biden.

So and look at what point does the loan become income?

You know, I don't know, that's a question.

What does the law look if the intent is to defraud the IRS? If if it is a fraudulent vehicle, the IRS can bring it for tax fraud. You can't characterize something as a loan that is not in fact a loan that doesn't intend to be paid back. And I mean that on the face of I got to tell you I'd be ready to prosecute right now. Of course, you know I don't work at the Biden Justice Department, and so my marching orders aren't protect the big guy. And the statute of limitations is not far from running

Money AMERICRPS to Jim, and Jim to Joe.

So the big guys getting cot day.

The same day, the same day. So in Jim Biden's bank account the day he deposited that two hundred thousand dollars check, I think he had like four thousand dollars ballots, So he went from four thousand to two hundred and four thousand. Then he writes a check for two hundred thousand Joe Biden, so he goes back down to four thousand. That wasn't real hard to trace. I would challenge anyone to uh debate me on tracing that check.

I have one other question on this money in general. We talk about the loan payments, but can we talk about the total sub of money that was coming into the the the Biden affiliated businesses. There were much bigger business deals that were done. And how hard is it to trace me.

They're not businesses, call them shell corporate corporate businesses do something. Yeah that these these are just bank accounts to park money.

Right and and a lot of these shelves had multiple bank accounts. That's what's taken so long to get the bank records in.

We find more bank accounts.

I mean, we're always finding more bank accounts and more accounts. But you know, we've identified twenty four million dollars that we don't think they can explain what they did.

There's more, we know where it is, but you know, for for.

Times sake, I mean, this is this is just the House Oversight Committee. I mean, no one in the government has investigated this. Anytime someone got close, like the Irish Witch of Blowers, they were told to stand down, usually by Leslie Wolfe.

And can you explain when they get close?

You just said every time they got close they were told to stand down. Lesuaf remind people of the pattern of how close they got to the Bidens and then how they were cut off.

According to the irishwitch of blowers in their notes and everything Shapley and Ziegler have said has turned out to be true. We're seeing some of that in this recent indictment in California.

And Chafflee and Ziegler are the two IRS whistleblowers, their career employees. They're not partisan Republicans indeed, you know, indeed they're Democrats, the Democrats. But they came forward because they were horrified by what they saw and and tell us what they told.

Us, Well, they knew that there was money laundering, they knew there was tax evasion, they knew there was tax fraud, and they had accumulated all this evidence. Now they wanted to go in and raid a storage unit. They were told that there were documentation, you know, there were documents in the storage unit. And they said they also wanted

So the Irish rolled in on them.

We know from talking to people and Jim Jordan talking to people at the Department of Justice that there were different jurisdictions looking into different things the Bidens had because when you get a suspicious activity report, the law is the Treasury notifies the appropriate investigators, you know, whether it be the IRS or whether it be the Department Justice. So they had to beget notification of all this stuff

So let's turn to the president now, because and I want to go through some of the lies. You go back, and I think we should play that montage of Joe Biden when he was running for president and saying I made no money, I was never connected to my son or family businesses. There's no connections to China. This you know, this is a lie. Everybody's looked at it. It's a lie.

Take a listen to this.

How many times have you ever spoken to your son about his overseas business dealings.

I've never spoken my son about his overseas pretty sums. I have never discussed with my son, or my brother or anyone else him to do.

With their business period.

And what I will do is the same thing we did in our administration, will be an absolute wall between personal and private and the government.

Do you stand by your statement that you did not discuss any of your son's overseas business charge stand.

By this Congressman. You know that's a lie. I know that's a lie. The Center knows that's a lie. But explain methodically for everyone watching and listening, how we now have the facts to back up that he was lying to the American people every time he said that, every time the White House said it, every time every Democrat said it on his behalf, every sarrogate on his campaign.

Well, when we began the investigation, the political narrative and the media narrative was that Joe Biden never met with or spoke to any of these mysterious people who were sending his family millions and millions of dollars. Now we know through pictures, text messages, emails, what tap messages and depositions from Devin Archer that Joe Biden talked to all

Son's family business elings.

There was no while he was communicating back and forth. For there are hundreds of pseudonym emails between Joe Biden and Eric Sherwin. We believed there were, and the White House said there was it, the media said there was it, the National Archives wouldn't turn them over, and then lo and behold, some of them pop up in this recent indictment in California. Some of these pseudonym emails between Joe Biden and Sherwan we're brought out as evidence.

So how many fake email accounts and how many burner phones have you all found for Joe Biden.

Well, I can't comment on the burner phone yet because we're still looking into that and triple checking some things. But with respect to the email, he's had at least three that he communicated, three pseudonym emails that he used the government email for, and then he had some other pseudonyms, we believe, with some personal emails and some personal communication where he was he was they used code names like

So now, and let me ask you, James On on the fake emails. Is it just a name if you had an email Kentucky Man Kentuckyman at gmail dot com, you know someone might pick a name of something, you know, Ben Ferguson Ole Miss Tennis Star, like you know, maybe you picked that as an email. Are they signed using fake names or are they signed Ben or James or Dad? How are they signed? And how much on the face of it are the emails trying to obscure the identity of the sender.

Well, they're all trying to obscure the identity of the sender.

He signed different things, but you know a lot of times the emails aren't aren't signed, but he's communicating back and forth. And the most disturbing thing to everyone should be that Hunter was being copied, blind copied on some of these emails that where he was using pseudonyms pertaining to Ukraine at the same time he was gonna Joe Biden was gonna go over there and fire Victor Choken, the prosecutor who was investigating Barisma.

I want to that is new news to me. You just said that you had a burner email account. The president is communicating with someone without their knowledge. That Hunter Biden's being blind copied, right, because you wouldn't know that email, which also goes back to a bigger lie.

They said that if he ever.

Talked with his son about people around his business, fear it was about the weather, right things It was it was not about business, it was you know, oh we're just friendly.

These are direct communication.

Where the Ukraine emails talking about the weather, was it like it's gonna be Sonny on Tuesday.

No, and the emails weren't to Hunter.

It was discussing with various UH members of the staff about his speech logistics to things like that, and they were copying Hunters. So this wasn't from a burner account. This was the government account. Joe Biden was just using a pseudonym. And the reason we know Hunter was copied on it.

Say that again, so this is a government account. But Joe Biden is using just a fake name on a government account and is using that fake name to conduct government business and is secretly blind ceaseeing Hunter.

He's sitting on the bard of Barsma, who's.

Sitting on the border Barismos with being paid eighty three thousand dollars a month, who has no skills, who doesn't speak Ukrainian, who knows nothing about oil and gas, but has access to Daddy. Is that all of that accurate?

That that tried, And the reason we know we found that email it was on the laptop.

Now, remember when.

We started this investigation, the laptop was Russian disinformation. But in Hunter, Biden's last speech he gave when he defied the congressionals, he referenced the laptop a lot, So you know it's there's a lot of pieces you have to put together, and it's very complicated, very hard to explain. This was by design. This is an organized criminal entity. There's no question about it. They knew what they were doing.

All right, So how many phone calls do we know about between Joe Biden and various international business associates of Hunter? And how many meetings do we know about between Joe Biden and various international associates of Hunter.

Well, Devin Archer, in his transcribed interview testified that there were at least now at least twenty, could be anywhere from twenty to one hundred, but he said at least twenty. And now we know that Joe had lunch with some of these people.

We didn't know. We had lunch with the.

Russian oligarch who had sent Hunter Biden three and a half million dollars while Joe Biden was Vice president the same Russian oligarch who, when Joe Biden became president, was the one oligarch he left off the sanctions list when Russia invaded Ukraine.

So, okay, just a lot of me say that again because I think it's important for our listeners and our viewers. The Democrats, the White House, the corporate media, they all say there's no evidence of corruption, no evidence corruption, and no evidence of Joe Biden's corruption. Just say what you just said again, because that is completely contrary to the talking points on the other side.

One of the things we found out when we interviewed Devin Archer was that Joe Biden actually had lunch with the female oligarch from Russia, the former mayor of Moscow's wife, the wealthiest lady in Russia. She had sent Hunter Biden three and a half million dollars while Joe Biden was vice president, and we have no idea what the Bidens did to receive the three and a half million dollars. That's one of the questions we would ask Hunter Biden

Do we know where they had lunch or dinner? Do we know that?

I think it was Cafe Milano, but I'm not one hundred percent certain. And when Joe Biden became president, and when Russia invaded Ukraine, he announced sanctions against all the oligarchs in Russia except one, the lady who had sent Hunter Biden three and a half million dollars.

And in the updated the because they've updated these sanctions throughout this war with Ukraine, have they ever then added her name to that list, because several times they've updated and added new people to that list, or has she been protected to date by the Biden crime family.

She's been protected today.

So look, there's an important thing to underscore, and we've talked about this at length on verdict. Bribery, as everyone knows who listens to this pod, requires a quid pro quo Latin for this for that. And so you need this the payment the benefit, and you need it in

Accurate, It's accurate. I wish you were on the oversight committee to help me with all this.

I have a question for both of you, and and I go back to when I was on the Bush campaign, even as someone younger, there was a very clear warning that was given to us, and it was explicit, be careful who you meet with, Be careful about any meeting on the clock or off the clock with anybody that could be nefarious. And that I remember that meeting because

And being in that world.

Would this be a meeting that our US government would have warned against, Like, you don't meet with this type of person. You certainly don't do business with this type of person. You don't take three and a half million from this type of person. I mean, would that not be some sort of conversation that would have happened?

Of course, listen, this is freaking weird. This is weird. This is not something that, oh, this is typical what people in government do. You don't run around having dinner with Russian oligarchs. That that is a strange thing to do. I don't know anyone else in government. I don't know anyone else in the Senate. I don't know anyone else in the House who does that. I don't know anyone else getting millions of dollars from foreign countries. It's freaking weird. James,

No? But I keep expecting the associated prits a Washington boast.

To write that, But no, I have done.

Look the closest I've come is I got change once at a Chinese restaurant for dinner. Yeah, like that is nuts. Who the hell? But like it is weird. I mean, I mean, look, you know your four hundred and thirty four colleagues. I know my nine and nine colleagues to the best of my knowledge, none of them, none other than Bobendez, who is under indictment. So let me set him aside. Because he's under indictment for this. That's actually

I agree.

Well, one of the things that I wanted to get in here on the tax crimes that he was indicted on. That's from his W two from Barisma. So that's like the most obvious thing. He he got a W two from Barisma, and whether he was supposed to be on the board or not, whether it was ethical or not, it wasn't illegal for him to be on the board.

He gets a W.

Two, which that's on the up and up. He just didn't pay taxes on it. He failed to pay taxes on the millions of dollars he got from Barriskma that's listed on his W two. What he's never been pressed on are these millions of dollars in loans and all these fake ride offs that he had in these shell companies. I mean, he probably owes six or seven million more dollars that he hasn't been prosecuted on yet.

The most obvious James tell us about about the fake write offs because because that's something that doesn't get discussed much.

Yeah, well, you know, so in these shell companies, so he would wire you know, say he got a five million dollar wire, then he would wire different you know, maybe five million dollar wires to five different shell companies, and then he would take half that money and wire it to various Biden family members. He keep the other half in the shell and he would pay for basic living expenses, and he would pay for things like prostitutes and drugs, and he would right them off as a

Prostitutes and drugs were business deductions for Hunter Biden was.

That was part of the indictment in California.

That was one of the things.

He joined a sex club in California and paid for it out of a shell company that he claimed was his law firm aasco. Now, think about this. His law firm was paying his sex club membership, and on his taxes he put down that it was a golf country club membership so he could ride it off.

You know, Ben, I feel bad when I was at a law firm, they didn't pay for my parking.

Yeah, I apparently needed one hell of a bonus structure over there. He goes law fundamentally differently, one hell of a of a of a write off there go back to Joe Biden for a second, and I want to play for you another montage of Joe Biden, uh consistently saying there's nothing, there's no there, there, there's nothing wrong here.

I wasn't involved.

And he also says the media has investigated this and no one's found any wrongdoing.

Here's the president in a montage in his own words.

Every single solitary serious investigator, including your network and others, have looked at this have said there's absolutely zero basis to the accusation that I acted anyway inappropriately or that my son did. Every major national, international, and local news operations looked into it has said it's a lie. This is a president's flat line. So it's not been a centilla of evidence point of anything is wrong. There's not

So you think that everything that happened was kosher?

You know, there's not one single bit of evidence, not one little.

Tiny bit, not one tiny bit of evidence.

Is the president a liar based on everything that you've seen and the idea that everybody's investigated this, they found nothing. Now the news media is reporting on some of this, so they're not even backing him up anymore.

So I got to say, you know, Joe Biden is particularly fond of saying there's not a sentilla of evidence, and I couldn't help thinking of my favorite movie, The Princess Bride. You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. I'm not sure Joe knows what the word scintilla means. So so let me just ask you directly, James, what is the most compelling evidence that you are aware of right now of corruption by Joe Biden.

Well, the fact that we've found five payments to Joe Biden that we trace the source of the payments directly from his family's influenced pedling scheme. So when Joe Biden says that he's never benefited from his family's influence pedling scheme, that is a lie.

We have two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

That's a quarter of a million dollars, which for the self proclaimed poorest guy in Congress, that's that's a lot of money, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars directly to Joe Biden's back pocket from his family's.

Influence filling steams. They want to say that was.

A loan repayment, which that's a whole nother story. If if you pay me back two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, Senator, then somewhere before you pay me back, I should have a check to you for two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

They don't have that. But let's sen you know, I don't want to.

Get into so let's let the two fifty give us the details of the two fifth fifty. When was it paid, from whom? And where does it look like the money came from.

Two hundred thousand dollars came from Jim Biden and Sarah Biden to Joe Biden.

That money came.

Directly from that AmeriCorps Health company that was an influence pedaling scheme led by Jim Biden. Okay, then forty thousand dollars went from Jim and Sarah Biden to Joe Biden. That came from China. That was the ten percent of four hundred thousand dollars. That was the company that Babylinski said was going to be ten percent held for the Big Guy. They got four hundred thousand dollars.

Wow, hold on, I got I gotta stop you there, because that's I'm following this pretty closely, and that to me is something new. So so I'm aware of the ten percent for the Big Guy that that was in the information on Hunter's laptop. What I was not aware of is that you now have a payment from China and direct evidence, by the way, non circumstantial, direct evidence of a ten percent payment straight to Joe Biden. Is

The exact amount, the exact eleven.

Percent, not nine percent, ten percent exactly what was reflected what Babolinski told us, that's pretty compelling. So just to explain that again, it's it's important not to miss this point.

If you'll remember the WhatsApp message where Hunter Biden was shaking down the Chinese actionals saying, we expect you to fulfill your commitment, the commitment that was.

Made while Joe Biden was Vice president.

He said, my dad sitting here beside me, and we're gonna unleash our wrath on you if you don't. Five days later, five business days later, five million dollars pops into the Biden account. They immediately wire four hundred thousand dollars to this shell company that was supposed to be the company that Joe Biden was going to be ten percent owner of, according to babo Leinski. From that four hundred thousand dollars, they start wiring different wires to different

How close is the time period between the WhatsApp, the five million dollar payment, the four hundred thousand dollars payment, and the forty thousand dollars payment.

I mean a month.

So this is all really closely compressed.

This is all and remember you could when you transfer money to an account, you have to keep it in there at least twenty four hours. So you know a lot of times you say, oh, there's two or three days difference, Well maybe the bank wouldn't make it available. A lot of times when you deposit money in the bank, you'll say your funds may not be available for twenty four hours or forty eight hours or until next week.

So then here's my question.

We've talked about the tax issues with Hunter Biden and James Biden.

I think there's some more questions there.

But if all of this is happening and money is running through to the president or then vice president, what are the liabilities that we don't know about? And I'm talking from a tax standpoint for the president of the United States and America, because what we do know is there's money flowing in, then they claim its loans and there's claiming, there's repayment of loans, but we don't see the reclaimant payments.

So is that a tax issue for the president? I can't want to have.

Is this if the bank accounts these shell companies were acting as piggybanks for Hunter Biden and the Biden crime family. We've also heard there were payments being made for things that benefited the Vice president and the president through things that were done at their houses, his house, home improvements, remodeling.

I think so. So a lot of these show companies had credit cards. So we got the bank account and it'll say, all right, we spent fifteen thousand dollars this month on our City Bank card or our Chase card or whatever. We have to subpoena the credit card companies and start going down these bank statements. I mean, this is stuff, this investigation so big and so complex and so complicated. I mean, we're moving as quickly as we

But we're doing the best we can.

So we know from the laptop there were things Hunter Biden was paying for a value for Joe, like a new roof and a cell phone bill and things like that.

But the two hundred and fifty thousands.

Hold on a second, did you just say Hunter Biden paid for a new roof for Joe Biden.

According to the laptop.

According to the laptop, And remember there's message from Hunter Biden to Hunter Biden's daughter saying, unlike Dad, I won't make. I won't make you have to turn over fifty percent of your salary to me. So there's lots of references in the laptop where Hunter Biden was complaining about having a pay for stuff for Dad, for Joe Biden. That's why we wanted to depose him. That's why we wanted to ask that was one of those questions.

Let's go to the deposition. Were you surprised that Hunter defied the subpoenan refre used to set for the deposition.

I wasn't because I felt like that indictment was done to protect him from this deposition.

Because you've been dined.

Yes, you've beendicted him for two things.

Uh, the line on a gun.

Application and his basic failure to pay taxes.

On his W two income.

I mean, those are the two things that you really can't tie to Joe Biden. But the money laundering you can tie to Joe Biden, the UH, the the loans, the tax evasion on that, the securities fraud, even the even the problems with prostitutes and possible human trafficking and all that, you can tie that to Joe because some of that was at at Joe's house.

Apparently there's lots of things.

That hold on a second, James, you said possibly human trafficking. What what? What is the evidence we have of that.

There's a suspicious activity report filed against an escort service in Florida, and the suspicious at Timy report is on the escort service. But Hunter Biden is a subject of that suspicious activity report because he was a big customer and send him money to and from the bank notified. And this is public not because of us. You're not supposed to leak these activity reports, but it's out there. It's out there on the internet. I think it was in that Marco Polo report. But we you know it's real,

I mean, you can't make this stuff up.

And we don't know if they were human traffic We don't know if. All we know is they're not here legally, and we're pretty sure they're h and engaged in prostitution, which is illegal in Florida. And they list like the two or three names of people that were spending a lot of money there, and Hunter Biden was at the top of list, which is another reason they filed the Star because then you Russia and Ukraine human trafficking and at the time he was living in Joe Biden's house, they were.

Sending the prostitutes to him.

He wasn't going there, so they were sending them across state lines, which.

Is you know, is there evidence that they were sending the prostitutes to Joe Biden's house.

All we know is Hunter was living there at the time. We don't know if he was going to a hotel or whatever. But I'm just telling you what JP Morgan said, okay, I mean this is so.

Let me ask you about more. Let me ask you about the deposition. So Hunters refused to testify. What happens next in the next week, two weeks, three weeks, four weeks.

What happens next, Well, we're gonna have to issue contempt of Congress charges.

We'll run that through the Oversight Committee and tell.

People what are the mechanics of what has happen.

I was hoping Jim Jordan would lead that through the judiciary, but it looks like we're going to do it through the House Oversight Committee. There's a lot of paperwork that's gonna have to get done. Remember, we've got a new Speaker of the House, all new staff rolling in. He kept some of McCarthy's staff on till the end of the year. We got a new staff coming in. So we're going to try to get all this accumulated as quickly as possible and then have a committee here and then hopefully mark.

It up on the floor.

But there's a lot of legwork that has to be done, a lot of documentation that has to be accumulated, and we're doing this at a time when we're shifting a lot of people in the Speaker's office in one thing center, A lot of people don't realize I have subpoena authority, but the Speaker has to sign off on it. That's something that Darryl Olysis talked about, and Trey Gout He's talked about, and Jason Chafitch.

You know, former Republican chairsh.

The Speaker's General counsel has to sign off on it because if it goes to court, they're the ones that represent us in court.

It's the Speaker's General Council.

So there's you know, there's some bureaucracy involved in these subpoenas. There's some bureaucracy involved in the contempt of Congress, But we plan on moving forward to that and we're working on it as we speak.

So let me ask you something. When U subpoena Hunter, he came back and said he was willing to testify, but only only in an open hearing, not in a closed door deposition. Tell us, from your perspective, what the advantages are of doing a closed door deposition first before open public testimony.

We have tens of thousands of pages of documents, bank statements, emails, sworn testimony, we have hundreds and hundreds of questions, you know, probably close to a thousand questions. In a deposition, you have one hour. The Republicans have an hour, then the Democrats have an hour, then you come back and have another hour, the dimogrants have another hour. So you know, easily you can get an eight hour deposition in it

Jim has good people there. They were both going to be in there.

We were going to ask them specific questions, hundreds of questions. If you have a committee hearing, were you twenty five Republicans and twenty one Democrats going back and forth yelling the Democrats of the last year and they filed three motions to adjourn during the committee here and trying to disrupt it. You get five minutes each back and forth.

This is too important.

This is an investigation of public corruption at the highest levels. This has been a substantive, credible investigation that we've accumulated mountains of evidence through bank records and emails. We have lots of questions. You just can't get that into a public hearing. But I want to have a public hearing with Hunter Biden, and we will have a hearing with Hunter Biden after he gets deposed.

For what it's worth, James, and this is something that I've talked about on Verdict recently. Look, you're in the middle of the fight. You're working your tail off with a lot of complicated stuff. I understand everything you said there, and I agree there's a lot of force to the argument you're putting forward to the extent I can share some unsolicited advice, which I did in our last podcast, and you know, I'm a lawyer and a senator, so

Agree or left?

Yeah, let me ask you.

I appreciate that.

Let me ask you this question too. Is we kind of put a rap on this. I want to play Hunt and I want to play what he said because I don't know, if you know, a lot of people thought the White House was probably give me advice. I think there seems to be a little bit of a riff now between the White House.

We're seeing some weeks coming out.

They didn't like what Hunter Biden did at this press conference, and that means he's kind of a rogue actor in this scenario. Right now, I want to get your reaction to just as demeanor what he said.

Take a look. Let me state as clearly as I can.

My father was not financially involved in my business, not as a practicing lawyer, not as a board member of Barisma, not in my partnership with a Chinese private businessman, not in my investments at home nor abroad, and certainly not as an artist. During my battle with addiction, my parents were there for me. They literally saved my life. They helped me in ways that I will never be able to repay, and of course they would never expect me to. And in the depths of my addiction, I was extremely

It's shameless.

There is no evidence to support the allegations that my father was financially involved in my business, because it did not happen. James Comer, Jim Jordan, Jason Smith, and their colleagues have distorted the facts by cherry picking lines from a bank statement, manipulating texts I sent, editing the testimony of my friends and former business partners, and misstating personal information that was stolen from me.

He accuses you of manipulating text messages without any evidence and says that you guys are cherry picking lines.

I gotta get your response to that.

I've never seen such a display of arrogance and entitlement in my life. But I'm not surprised because, look, he's gotten away with this for years because he's a Biden. The rules don't apply to Bidens. But I don't know how you manipulate a text. Was his father beside him when he was extorting that Chinese national or not? That's a simple question. The media should have asked then and there.

And they stopped the GPS, right, they stopped the GPS.

You and I have talked about this here. We could have answered that question. Well, okay, and it's important. Look, this is there's a reason people hate lawyers. I listened to that as a lawyer. When they say manipulating a text, what they mean is one of the copies that was released of the WhatsApp text from one of the House members, they put a Chinese flag next to the Chinese person speaking to identify them, so like, aha, snipulated it because in the real one there's not a Chinese flag, so

Absolutely.

Well, what's interesting, I just discovered something again. Let me ask the team put up the very last shot from the Hunter Biden video that we were watching, if we can put it on the screen now. If you notice CNN did the same damn thing. Yeah, look at the chiron in the bottom. Hunter Biden, my father was not involved in any of my businesses. What he said was my father was not financially involved in any of my businesses. CNN and New York Times both deleted the same word.

James, let me ask let me ask you one other question about this that I think is also very important, and that is to remind people financially. Now, how many countries was the Biden crime family getting money from.

We haven't even mentioned in the last hour. Romania. That's a country that has to be brought up.

But you guys are fighting more money in more places with more people. And even Hunter Biden there in what he said, he said with my foreign business dealings plural, he was admitting, yeah, I'm getting money from everywhere in the world.

Yeah, we know he got money from China, Romania, Ukraine, Russia.

Who's Bekastan.

We know that he was paid through China for stuff he did in the Congo. We know that Jim Biden operated primarily in the Middle East, so pretty much every bad country.

In the world is where the Bidens.

Would target their influence peddling scheme.

Do you expect to get anything new about James Biden's money. I mean, we obviously know a lot about Hunters, but are you guys finding more and more of James, Because before Hunter Biden was of age, James was the bagman and then it kind of turned into, oh, hey, we've got a kid here that we can get to be the bagman, and we have an excuse for his actions that he's a drug addict, which is exactly what Hunter Biden said in that video. I was in the depths

Yeah, we have a lot of questions for James Biden. Again, the reason no one knows much about him is he didn't leave a laptop lying around. But having looked at his bank records, from his LLC and from his personal bank records, I have a lot of questions for James Biddy.

Does they appear that James, Joe's brother, was as involved in this family business as Hunter was, or would you say they're they're equally complicit.

I wouldn't say he's as involved, But a lot of transactions in and out of James Biden's LLC were with the Biden shell companies, and then obviously the two hundred and forty thousand dollars that came from Hunter's shell companies went through James Biden's personal account and had him write the money to Joe Biden.

I think at the end of.

The day, when Joe Biden was saying, oh, there's not a shred of evidence, not shred of evidence, they thought that we would try to get their taxes. And I never wanted their taxes. I wanted their bank records. I've looked at enough tax returns. As the director of a bank, you want to look at the bank statements. Bank statements don't lie, and you would have never seen that money to Joe.

You would never see.

Any of these these millions of dollars they're labeling as loans. If you had just sub pointed the tax records, you had to get their banks.

And to be clear, the two hundred thousand dollars payment that went from from Jim to Joe that they claim was a loan repayment, there is zero evidence, or to use Joe's phrase, not a scentilla of evidence, that that was actually a loan that had ever gone from Joe to Jim in the first place. In other words, there has to be a loan in order for a loan to be repaid. Is there any evidence at all that that loan existed.

No, it's not hard to prove.

Alone.

If you paid me back one hundred thousand dollars, then I should have a check to you for one hundred thousand dollars at some point before you paid me back one hundred thous dollars. That's pretty simple, and I think every American, even the financially illiterate ones, understand that.

All Right, two more questions. I want to get to, what do you make of the fact that the countries that are doing business with Hunter and Jim Biden are all countries that are shady, that have corrupt oligarchs that are to various degrees enemies of America, that they don't do business with any of our close allies. You don't see them doing business with England. You don't see them doing business with France or Germany. You don't see them doing business with Japan. You don't see them doing business

I think that was their business model. We know they sold the Biden brand, but where did you sell the Biden brand? You sold the Biden brand in shady countries. You revolved the business model around people who are in trouble. Barisma, the Romanian foreign national, the Russian oligarch. China was always in trouble because no one wants to be the United States.

We don't want try to buying farmland. We don't want China buying our energy companies.

But they use the Bidens to try to get their foot in the door everywhere they operated. We're in countries where we have problems with bad people from bad countries.

All right, last question. Something Hunter mentions at the end of that press conference, that's kind of gratuitously tossed on there. He says, Dad wasn't involved in Bearisma and my legal practice such as it was, and my businesses, and then he says or with me as an artist, and it kind of pops out of nowhere there. What do you make of that and what is your take on quote Hunter as an artist?

Well, Hunter was never an artist until Joe became president. And it looks like their business model changed. From twenty fourteen to twenty eighteen, they were taking wires directly through those show companies in the irsh rolls on them. Then they start trying to say this money they were taking in from influence pedaling, we're loans. Then once Joe became president, they stopped all of that and Hunter started selling art.

So I believe the influence peddling may still be going on. It's going on.

Through the art sales. We need to know who's purchasing this artwork.

That's why do we know that. Do we know who's purchasing the artwork and how much they're paying.

We think we know of two people, and they're part of the people we're trying to bring in to ask questions or to the pose. So that's something every American should want to know who's behind this artwork.

So even with the investigation going on, and this is just to make it clear the American people where we are now, there's no reason to believe that the Biden said Okay, they're onto us, let's shut it down. They just said, okay, they're onto us, let's change the way that we're operating our business. We found out, for example, that the first American hostage that was released from Hamas was had a family member who had bought artwork from

So do we have evidence? Do we know how many paintings Hunter has sold to whom and for how much? Those are basic questions. Since Joe became president. Do we know whether he sold one painting, fifty paintings, or one hundred paintings.

We know he sold several. They bragged about it. The art director, George Burgess, he's one of the people we expected to pose.

Hopefully in January, we'll ask those questions.

And has any of Hunter Biden's art ever hung in any government buildings or the White House that would, in theory raise the price of that art work. The value of that art work, because we know that artwork where it hangs can increase the value significantly.

I don't know that that'll be a great question. We can ask George Burgess.

But the point you made that there's no evidence Hunter was an artist until daddy became president is rather amazing. Every artist I've ever known, they've been an artist their whole life. They've been painting. Usually people have been painting since they were kids. If you want to be a commercial artist, most people don't start off saying I'm going to paint something and sell it for half million dollars.

Well, somebody's blocking it again.

That's that's the question.

We're going to ask the art gallery owner, and we're going to ask Kevin Morris, who's the Hollywood attorney, and we believe he has a lot of inside knowledge.

Over this artwork and who's purchasing the artwork.

This would be the Hollywood attorney that paid off Hunters back taxes.

Yeah, the media reports that he's paid a Hunter two and half million dollars, but it's five million dollars. It's five million dollars from this Hollywood attorney. He never met until Joe was the nominee to be he president.

He never met the guy.

Never met the guy. We had the picture when the first time they met. It was at a political fundraiser.

So this guy didn't.

Grow up with, wasn't friends with like Devin Archer, boba Olin, Scurity, these guys, and he met this guy. Now this guy has loaned him five million dollars.

At least don't have to put that in your taxes. I guess that's the perpoct.

I tell you this. This is James, thank you. This has been very helpful, and I want us to close. We've heard mountains and mountains of evidence of corruption, mountains of evidence of corruption of Hunter Biden, mountains of evidence of corruption of Jim Biden, mountains of evidence of corruption of Joe Biden. I want us to close with Karine

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