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It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator, We've got a lot to chat about tonight, and including this bill and funding over the Ukraine War. I want you to walk us through what happened. But before we get to that, there is some news that deals with the impeachment inquiry into the President United States of America, Joe Biden, and there are people that are giving testimony now in a shocking opening statement from Tony Bobolinski. Tony
Bobolinski is someone that knows the Biden crime family. He's an individual that was a whistleblower before election day to remind people of that, and then he went and sat down with the FBI for several hours. He had multiple electronic communication devices, cell phones, he had documents, he had everything about the Biden crime family, and not a single
person ever followed up with him. Not only that, no one at the DOJ, none of the special prosecutors, none of those that were investigating at the IRS ever contacted him for anything that he had about the Biden crime family, a family that he worked with extensively. He also confirmed he had meetings with Joe Biden and then he had an opening statement today that was remarkable. Tell everybody about what all he said.
Well, in his opening statement, here's what Tony Bobolinski said. And I want you to focus, in particular on how much he is talking about Joe Biden, not Hunter. The media, the Democrats want to make it all about Hunter, but I want you to focus on how much this is about Joe Biden's personal corruption.
Here's what he said. Quote.
I want to be crystal clear. From my direct personal experience and what I have subsequently come to learn, it is clear to me that Joe Biden was quote the brand being sold by the Biden family, His family's foreign influence peddling operation from China to Ukraine and elsewhere, sold out to foreign actors who were making to gain influence and access to Joe Biden and the United States government. He was an enabler, despite being buffered by a complex
scheme to maintain plausible deniability. The only reason any of these international business transactions took place, with tens of millions of dollars flowing directly to the Biden family was because Joe Biden was in high office. The Biden family business was Joe Biden period. Other key players have made this point clear as well. Hunter Biden himself has adamantly stated in a variety of communications, as did another Biden family
business associate, Devon Archer, in his testimony last year. Foreign nationals on the other side of these transactions, including from China, Ukraine, and Romania, have also explained how and why these transactions took place. Once again, I would call that evidence extensive.
And then Babbelinski gets into some details focusing on China. Quote, the Chinese Communist Party, through its surrogate, China Energy Company Limited or CEFC, a CCP linked Chinese energy conglomerate, successfully sought to infiltrate and compromise Joe Biden and the Obama
Biden Whitehouse. The process started in the fourth quarter of twenty fifteen and continued through when Joe Biden left office in January twenty seventeen to March of twenty eighteen, when CEFC chairman Ye was detained for corruption in China, never to be seen again. Note that on October twenty first, twenty fifteen, Joe Biden announced that he would not seek the presidency in twenty sixteen. It is not a coincidence that CEFC's aggressive approach to the Biden family happened around
that time. It is also not a coincidence that CFC used the Biden family's weakest link, Hunter Biden, and the promise of large sums of money to the tune of tens of millions of dollars initially and eventually the profits from investing billions of dollars in the United States and around the world.
You hear that.
And this opening statement is one that shocked me because it's clear that Tony Bobolinski is saying I need everyone to know this. I witnessed it, I saw it, I was therefore it and no, no one is listening to what happened here in our government, no one sitting down and asking any of these questions. Thank you for having me to basically Congress to tell you what I've been trying to tell the American people and the authorities. And that is the most shocking part of all.
Yeah, no, that's exactly right. The six o'clock News doesn't cover this, The Washington Post doesn't cover this, The New York Times doesn't cover this. Let me reach you some more from this opening statement, because every paragraph is a bombshell it continues quote Joe Biden was aware of the CEFC transaction, he enabled it, and had a constitutional responsibility and obligation to the American people to shut it down
before it began. This is because CEFC had been identified as a known surrogate of the Chinese Communist Party by the US government and prosecutors in the Southern District of New York as far back as twenty sixteen, possibly earlier. I would encourage Congress to gather all of the exact facts and date. It is clear to me that alarm bell should have been going off of theden the Obama Biden White House, and that Joe Biden should have been aware that his own administration had red flag CEFC as
a tool of the Chinese Communist Party. That should have made any business transaction with CEFC a non starter. And let me just stop and say, holy crap. Yes, like like, I've been in the Senate twelve years, I don't know a senator, all right. I was about to say, I don't know a senator who would do that, and then I thought about Bob Menendez. Yes, I do know a senator who's currently under indictment for corruption by being approached by Egypt. Now Egypt happens to be an ally of ours.
It's not even the Chinese Communist Party. But how the hell does any sane elected official not just walk away but turn and run.
Yeah, and not just run, but even think want to report it just to be on the record of like, Hey, I was approached for this, and I want to make sure everybody knows that I knew that this was bad and I didn't want to be.
Involved in it.
And yet this is what the Biden family seemed to be seeking out, which is what Bob Olenski is saying here. It also goes to another point of reporting before you read a couple more points in there that he said in his opening statement. Catherine Heritage, who actually was laid off within hours of her reporting on how Biden may have quote retained sensitive documents related to specific countries involving his family's foreign business dealings. This coming from the committees.
We've talked with, James Comer, We've talked to Jim Jordan said, quote the committees require this Biden slash her interview transcript. There is concern that President Biden may have retained sensitive documents related to specific countries involving his famili's foreign business dealings. That is what she posted on Twitter from these documents
that she got from the committees. And this was a letter that went to the Honorable Garland from these committees, and it was simply saying, we believe, from what we've been told, the President Biden may have retained these documents related to these countries involving his family and families foreign
business dealings. And further, the committee says, we seek to understand whether the White House or President Biden's personal attorneys placed any limitations or scoping restrictions during the interview that would have precluded a line of inquiry regarding evidence emails, text messages, or witness statements directly linking the president to troublesome foreign payments. You combine that with what Bob Olenski's saying, and they line up about one hundred percent.
Well, that's exactly right. And recall that when Robert Hurr was appointed, we said on this podcast, the tell of whether DOJ wants to cover up malfeasance by the White House is whether there's an investigation into the nexus between the documents, the classified documents that Joe Biden had illegally and the foreign entities paying the Biden family tens of millions of dollars, and as best we can tell, that
was not investigated by DOJ. Now, this is what James Comer and Jim Jordan are trying to get to the bottom of to find out what is the connection. And you know, look, I got to stop and say, Catherine Herriage has been really a unicorn. She has been a reporter for the corporate media for CBS, and she's been willing to actually report on the Biden corruption. So what did CBS do today? They laid her off. They fired her. They said, you know what, we had one person in
our entire staff doing journalism. We've decided we don't need any journalism at this outlet. You're out of a job.
And by the way, not just amazing journalism, journalism that was above reproach and a history of it.
And you notice, yes, I understand that layoffs happen.
I get that at CBS, but she was someone that was doing unbelievable reporting at the highest level in Washingt d C. On the biggest news stories that involve our government. And just hours after she puts this out there, like yeah, we're gonna get rid of you too.
I mean, it was three percent of the workforce.
You're telling me you couldn't have kept her in this very important reporting position.
Give me a break.
Well, CBS is corrupt. Unfortunately, so is ABC, so is NBC, so is CNN, so ISMSNBC. They have all abandoned any pretense of journalism, and they are advocates, and so somehow Catherine Herridge slipped through the crut cracks and CBS it is not accidental that when they're doing layoffs they decide, nope, we can have noiceent from the orthodoxy. We have a mission here and that mission, let's be clear, is to
defeat Donald Trump. And everything she was reporting that was inconvenient to that was contrary to their narrative, and therefore they let her go.
And they've silenced that narrative now completely by getting rid of her.
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Before we get into.
And I know everybody wants to hear your thoughts on this Ukraine funding bill that it worked its way through the Senate, I do want to connect what we just
told the audience about Tony Bobolinsky to something else. It's also not being covered by the media, and that is the House Oversight Judiciary committees have released Rob Walker's transcript as well as their finding that deal a lot more with the Chinese Communist parties connection to this Chinese energy company CEFC and chairman Ye as well as others that were in attendance with meetings that dealt directly with Joe Biden.
Well, that's right, and when you combine the two, when you look at Bobolinsky's opening statement and then you look at the testimony from Rob Walker, it paints an incredibly damning picture of Joe Biden's personal complicity. So James Comber tweeted out a series of tweets specifying exactly what it is, Rob Walker said. And here's what Comber tweeted out about
the Bob Walker testimony. Around the time Hunter Biden and his associates received a three million dollar payment from a CEFC entity, Joe Biden attended a CEFC meeting at the Four Seasons in Washington.
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CFC chairman Yi Jingmang and other CEFC officials were in attendance. In other words, let's just take that first tweet, Hunter Biden's associates get three million dollars at the same time Joe Biden is personally meeting with the chairman of CEFC, the Communist Party energy company. Now let's go back to what Comer put out. Hunter Biden's associates work with CFC, a Chinese government linked energy company, began in February twenty sixteen,
when Joe Biden was Vice President of the United States. However, Hunter Biden and his associates were not paid until after Joe Biden left office. Rob Walker admitted Hunter Biden's last name would quote probably get people in the door, and he had a letter he drafted to CEFC director Zang placed on Hunter Biden's letterhead because he was the son of the vice president at the time, Rob Walker's account, Robinson Walker LLC, received the three million dollar payment from
the CFC entity on March first, twenty seventeen. The next day, he wired one million and sixty five thousand dollars to James Gilliar, a Biden family associate, and then over the course of several months, wired incremental payments to the bidens, totaling around one million, sixty five thousand dollars. Rob Walker told investigators Hunter asked him to send incremental payments to various Biden accounts, including Halle Biden and James Biden, who were not affiliated with the CEFC deal.
Now, to be clear, this goes back to exactly what James Comer said to us the last time we sat down with him, which was this is money laundering. This is, yes, moving money from accounts to.
Accounts, breaking it up in pieces, sending it all over the place, hiding where it's coming from. That's called money laundering.
Yeah, And there is no service that's being rendered by any of the bidens that are being paid. They're not selling anything. There's no actual business activities within these accounts. It's just cleaning the money laundering the money and giving it to this person and that person with the Biden
last name, funneling all into the Biden crime family. And this now back set up without a shadow of a doubt that this was how they've been running business, not just for a year or two, this is apparently how they've been doing business the entire time.
Yeah, look at another thing in the Rob Lawucker transcript. It's not just China, it's Ukraine, it's Russia, it's Romania. Here here's another portion. During the Obama Biden administration, Hunter Biden, Rob Walker and James Gillier had a lucrative contract with Romanian businessmen Gabriel Papa Visiou, who was under investigation. Walker was unable to articulate what services the partners provided for.
I don't know, what do you think would be a good amount for some Romanian businessman to hire the son of the Vice president.
I mean, I'm assuming you know they like to deal with millions, right, So let's stick with that.
How about this one hundred and eighty thousand dollars a month.
Yeah, that's how you get to millions real fast.
One hundred and eighty thousand monthly from Papa issue. The payments ended abruptly shortly after Joe Biden left the vice presidency. It ain't subtle, no, not at all. What services did Hunter provide? Well, those services ended as long as Daddy was no longer Vice president.
By the way, if you just want to do simple math to put this in perspective of hard working Americans, they this romanian was paying the Biden family six grand basically every day.
And you know what, in my experience, people don't give away money for nothing. They were getting something and it was not complex legal advice from Hunter Biden.
Let's also dive in just for a second, and I want your opinion Joe Biden over and over again. And we played the montage in the show before of him saying I never had anything to do with my son's business dealings. I never talked business with them. We have these firewalls between him and me. He also then when it came to the issues of China, said I never made it. My family's never made a dime from China. We've never done a business with China. I've never made
any money from China. How dare you say that? And then said you should be looking at Donald Trump and investigating him, right, that's the line. Not only was he lying on both of those accounts, he also then had this lie, which was he never talked business with him, He never met with any of his been associates. This is a new dinner we didn't know about. This is outside the Cafe Milano dinners that he had with other people from China as well as from Russia and Romania.
So it looks like the product, which was Joe Biden and this all deals with his impeachment inquiry, was a product that had to go to dinner with some of the shadiest figures in the world to get the money flowing.
Well, listen, that's exactly right. What was being sold here, I believe was not just access, It was favors from Joe Biden. And what is so striking about the testimony, about the transcript that was released is how much of this connects directly to Joe. The corporate media doesn't want to focus on it, but that of course is exactly why the House is open an impeachment inquiry.
Yeah, it's going to be important to see exactly what happens with this moving forward.
We're going to keep you updated on it.
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gonna have to pay interest on this money. And it seems like there's no in insight for the obsession with sending money to Ukraine. We're sending more money to them than to Israel as well. Why did so many Democrats get along so well with so many Republicans on this one? How is it that so many Republicans can't just stand their ground.
Well, it's incredibly frustrating. Look, you and I are recording this. It is ten oh seven pm Texas time on Tuesday night. I started this day this morning at a little after five am, voting on the Senate floor. And the reason we were voting at five am is because Chuck Schumer had kept the Senate in all night in order to try to force this vote through, and he succeeded. The
vote was seventy to twenty nine. In other words, seventy senators voted yes, twenty nine voted no. All the Democrats except three voted for the funding bill, and yet there were just twenty nine of us. I was a no. There were twenty nine of US, and that was twenty six Republicans and three Democrats who voted no. And listen, my reasons for voting no. We've talked about at length, but it's worth revisiting. There are elements of this bill that I support. There are even elements of this bill
that I strongly support. So for example, this bill includes emergency military funding for Israel. I think that is incredibly important. I think we should have passed that months ago. This bill includes funding to help Taiwan defend itself against communist China. I think that is very important for US national security. Most notably, this bill contains tens of billions of dollars of funding for Ukraine. Now, my views on that are mixed.
I think it is very important that Russia lose and Putin loses, and there are certainly circumstances in which I would be willing to support military funding for Ukraine to stop Russia because I think that's in the United States's interest. However, just a couple of months ago, every single Republican in the Senate we stood united, and we made a united stand. We said, we will not fund additional money for Ukraine
unlessen until we secure our own border. That we're not going to spend billions to secure the border of another nation until America secures our border. And we're not going to spend billions to stop the invasion of another country until we stop the invasion of our own country. Now, when I said that, I meant it. Unfortunately, I think for a lot of my colleagues they did not, because, as you know, what happened was Chuck Schumer and the
Democrats refused to negotiate and agree to meaningful border security. Instead, they demanded a bill that in many ways would have made the border crisis worse, would have codified Joe Biden's open borders, and when as soon as the bill TECHS was released, they negotiated in secret. Within twenty four hours, the bill had collapse because everyone reading it realized it was a terrible bill. What Republican leadership did next, I
think was indefensible. They said, Okay, well, a few people don't like Chuck Chuck Schumer's open border proposal, then never mind, we'll just pass all the funding with nothing on.
The border at all.
I think that is an absurd position, But unfortunately seventy senators just cast a vote that way.
So what happens now, because what we're hearing is that this could move the House side Speaker Johnson has indicated.
No or probably not, This isn't going to happen.
And then now Democrats, apparently Kim Jeffreys is saying, all right, well, they're going to get together and they're going to get a game planned or basically ram this down everyone's throat. What would that look like and what does that mean moving forward? On top of the fact that the House majority for Republicans just got slimmer as well tonight because we've lost a special election.
Well that's exactly right. Look, if it is up to House leadership, if it's up to the Speaker of the House, this bill will not pass. The Speaker has said so unequivocally that the House is not going to take up and pass any military funding for Ukraine unlessen until it contained serious and meaningful border security. And by the way, the House has already passed strong border security legislation, that is HR two. The House passed that months ago. Chuck
Schumer refused to take it up. I entered STATEHR two in the Senate. I'm the author of HR two in the United States Senate. I had it as an amendment to this bill. And by the way, I was clear. I said, you know what, if we pass HR two, I'll vote for this bill. If we pass strong legislation that forces Joe Biden to secure the border, I'm on board. And Schumer said, not just no, but hell no. Refused to allow a vote on HR two. When we were voting this morning, I was trying very hard to get
a vote. Schumer locked down and blocked every single amendment vote. What I expect Republican leadership in the House to do is to take up this bill and to attach strong border security to it and then send it back to the Senate. That's what I think is likely to happen.
There is a chance, and you referenced it. There's some Democrats talking about trying to do what's called a discharge petition, which is all the House Democrats teaming up with a handful of haw GISs Republicans to basically overrule the Speaker of the House and force the bill onto the floor. I don't think that will happen, and it is the sort of move that would be just absolute rebellion by
the rank and file Republican members. And but that is really what Mitch mcconnlin Chuck Schumer's plan is, is to try to use this bill to directly attack the Republican speaker of the House. And I got to say, Ben, I don't understand why Senate Republican leadership is trying to lead the attack on House Republican leadership.
Well, one final question this what was in it for Republicans that just caved on this. I mean, I know, and I'm cynical because I've been around it probably too long, and you're probably you see it every day, so you're cynical too. I'm like, all right, so what did you get like to make you not listen to the American people and just go along with this? What was the incentive of there to side with the Democrats?
So so let me be a little more forgiving in this sense. You know, there are folks that said, what did they get? They're compromised. Look, in my experience, that's not how Washington works. I don't think there's anybody with a folder of people having, you know, sexual relations with barnyard animals. And I don't think this is compromant. I don't think it's And I also don't think for the people who voted for this that what did they get? I don't think that they're like the Biden family in
terms of making millions of dollars off of this. I don't think that's why it happened, At least among the Republicans. I think a great many of them passionately believe that it is in America's interest for Ukraine to beat Russia. And I understand that sentiment. I think Russia's winning this war would be very, very bad for America and over the long term would be much more expensive for American te payers than it would be to defeat Russia and Ukraine.
So want I want Russia to lose. And I think it's combined with there are a lot of Republican senators that basically they don't like a fight, and in any given fight, when you ask them, all right, let's hold the line and say we won't do this unless we get real border security, they look at you and say, well, Chuck Schumer would never do that. And I don't understand why they expect Chuck Schumer to stand strong and never blink, and yet their solution is always, well, therefore, we got
to give Schumer what he wants. But that's temperamentally the view of far too many Republicans in Congress.
Yeah, it's going to be a tough year for the Republicans, especially on the House side, as their majority has gotten even slimmer after we have lost a special election in New York today as well. We're going to keep you updated on all this, especially on what's happening with a Biden crime family and these new testimony and documents coming out in the impeachment inquiry of the President United States
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