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Pure Chaos w/ Joseph

Sep 03, 202126 minSeason 1Ep. 136
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Today’s guest is Michele’s partner, Joseph, a civil engineer and woodworker. They talk about how goddamn tired they are between DIY home improvement projects, painting rooms, learning feng shui,­­ and living like absolute slobs. They discuss reaching a breaking point with stress levels, admit there’s too much chaos, and that they’ve been neglecting their health. They talk about Ted Lasso, Rick and Morty, and Final Space. Joseph tells us why he stopped going to EMDR therapy. They celebrate getting their own personal spaces, a book on trauma (Unspoken Legacy by Claudia Black), and Michele tells us about her return to performing live standup comedy.

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Michele Baci

Welcome back to Therapy Roulette. My name is Michele Baci. Today I am joined by a very special guest, my partner Joseph, who has been on the podcast before, he has very generously agreed to come back because we have moved into our new house. We're pressed for time. I didn't book any other guests, and he's really interesting and a good sport. So I welcome back my partner, brilliant engineer and woodworker Joseph.

Joseph

Hello.

Michele Baci

He's here guys. He's really excited.

Joseph

Yes

Michele Baci

Joseph. How do you feel? Honestly?

Joseph

exhausted.

Michele Baci

I am always exhausted. How did this exhaustion come about?

Joseph

I'm painting the house.

Michele Baci

That took a lot out of me. Yep. Yep. We painted bedrooms. Three bedrooms. One will be in office very,

Joseph

very good colors. Michelle shows the mastermind.

Michele Baci

Thank you. You helped just as much

Joseph

Yeah, but you You seemed it with the bag. Wha

Michele Baci

Yeah, we Fung suede the rooms I whenever I live anywhere, I always want to Fung Shui the place and put a little bit of energy in each corner. And luckily you were on board and you really drew it out.

Joseph

Every room is gonna be functioning right now.

Michele Baci

Which is awesome. Because usually, I am mature and I like put duct tape on the

Joseph

best I can. On the ground crazy.

Michele Baci

Sometimes you got to work with a budget. Okay, and I needed some ci. Toward the beginning of my house. I put hot pink duct tape at the foot of my stairs and I was in college. And I said this is good Fung Shui. You know what I think it was. But now that I'm 30 and we have a house we own we can go a little bit harder than duct tape.

Joseph

Yeah, it's it's nice. It feels it feels good to take over a place and make it ours.

Michele Baci

Yeah, putting paint up on the walls really made it feel like our house not just a house we found and purchased.

Joseph

Then doing the floors was nice too. It looks so much better.

Michele Baci

You very graciously took care of the floors while I was out of town.

Joseph

Yeah, it was a lot of work. It's probably why my back hurts.

Michele Baci

I would guess. Every time I spoke to you while I was in New York you were like I pulled up another room of carpet. This many nails stuck in my hands.

Joseph

The carpet was was the easy part. The hard part was the the vinyl with the stuck on linoleum underneath the vinyl stuff came up really easy but stuck on stuff I had to go around with like a razor blade and statue. Yeah, like a sharpened spatula that I sharpened so that it was like a razor blade sharpness and was scraping it. Yeah, miserable.

Michele Baci

I really got it. I

Joseph

missed these that took like, five days.

Michele Baci

was nice for you to get it all done for your family to come help out too. Otherwise, I think you would be a broken person

Joseph

I wouldn't have been able to do without Emily that's for sure. Yeah, Emily Am I put in a lot of hard work? Yeah, it was nice. felt good to hang out again like that. Do something fun or not fun to do with your

Michele Baci

sister. Hmm. That's awesome. Yeah. But now we're exhausted,

Joseph

exhausted. But we're finally actually moving into the rooms. Slowly.

Michele Baci

Hopefully, instead of having all of our shit in one room.

Joseph

Yeah, we're currently in the den of our house, which has all of our belongings in it at once. Which is fun.

Michele Baci

Yeah, and it's it's a little too much for one room. I

Joseph

gotta say pure chaos, which I thrive at. And but this is too much.

Michele Baci

What really strikes me as interesting about you is you set up the fish tank right away.

Joseph

I mean, you had you because well the fish die and the plants die if you don't set up the fish tank. So

Michele Baci

it's just funny. All we've set up in the house is our kitchen kind of like just so we can cook. We've set up our desks so we can work from home. Our bed is on the floor and then the fish tank is like thriving behind all of our boxes.

Joseph

I wouldn't call it thriving. Its existing. It's put together Yeah, I lost a lot of plants in the move. So hopefully They come back.

Michele Baci

And we did lose one fish recipe.

Joseph

suicide by fish.

Michele Baci

The fish jumped out of the bucket we put them in, you know, I don't blame him because he had been through a lot.

Joseph

Well, his partner previously committed suicide.

Michele Baci

We lost another fish.

Joseph

There were three of them originally. And that was the that was. I don't know. I think the first one just died. The second one jumped.

Michele Baci

It could have been homicide

Joseph

by it was the biggest tank one of their fellow

Michele Baci

fish.

Joseph

Oh, using there's some conspiracy in the fish tank where there was a murder?

Michele Baci

I don't know. I'm not in their worlds.

Joseph

I don't know what's going on. Could have been a fish murder.

Michele Baci

I don't watch. I don't watch the fish.

Joseph

This is good material for you. You should just write this down.

Michele Baci

Next step on kcls acla. Fish murder hot topics.

Joseph

When are we going to get the new fish to replace deficient diet?

Michele Baci

soon?

Joseph

Can I get Angel fish?

Michele Baci

If you take care of them? Yes, check. Yes, we still have to go over budget. We'll do that tomorrow. Yes. Fun relationship stuff going over the budget. Anyway, we're here to talk about how we're feeling. Like with our health in general, and with our mental health, you're exhausted, I'm exhausted. I think I'm going to take more steps to really schedule my time a bit better so I can accomplish more and rest more because I seem to like get lost throughout

the day. So I'm going to be more proactive about scheduling out my time.

Joseph

That's probably a very good idea.

Michele Baci

I'm probably going to watch less TV.

Joseph

I'm gonna watch more TV.

Michele Baci

You watch so much TV.

Joseph

I need to watch more TV.

Michele Baci

Okay, well for you. It seems to make you feel better for me. I feel less productive and therefore shitty.

Joseph

It's just like the only time my brain doesn't think so. It's nice. Especially if it's a good show. Some shows don't even touch it. But

Michele Baci

you see anything good lately? You watch a lot of content?

Joseph

I'm not really. Okay, well, actually, Ted lasso pretty good. Pretty good.

Michele Baci

I hear it. I hear season two is very therapy oriented.

Joseph

Yeah, I think we're on the third episode.

Michele Baci

I think Bernie brown gets a shadow.

Joseph

I think that's two glasses. Good. Rick and Morty. Of course, he's just said it. Pretty good season.

Michele Baci

The season ended. Yeah,

Joseph

we should say the episodes. We watched the last one. I thought there was one more but there wasn't.

Michele Baci

eight episodes is a short season.

Joseph

So hard show, right. I mean, they've really done a lot. Yeah, I mean, it's very original.

Michele Baci

Any show is hard to write. Oh, yeah. But

Joseph

Rick and Morty has this like, huge fan base that's waiting on on the edge of their seats for every episode.

Michele Baci

Aggressive fan base attack is

Joseph

very aggressive.

Michele Baci

Yeah, this season was interesting. I enjoy that. You've brought me into Rick and Morty, and we share that together.

Joseph

It's a good it's a good show.

Michele Baci

Also, little gems of therapy throughout. And there's another show you were watching that was animated about mental health. In space,

Joseph

oh, final space.

Michele Baci

Because Claudia black was on the list of cast or Yeah,

Joseph

that's a weird show. Something like

Michele Baci

that. And Claudia

Joseph

gets much play, but it's pretty good.

Michele Baci

Final space. I should watch it.

Joseph

It's a pretty good show. I think it's three seasons or four seasons.

Michele Baci

After I've become a productive human, I'll integrate that show. Yeah, but I think my health has been pretty terrible and I need to get better at taking care of myself, going to doctors, finding a new therapist. We have to start exercising more going to that gym we joined.

Joseph

So it's been like twice.

Unknown

My health has been suffered. Definitely mind you.

Michele Baci

But it makes sense because we've been moving and had a lot of stress,

Joseph

not stress too much. Why did you stop going to therapy? I just it was a scheduling thing. I was having trouble like meeting appointments, making appointments. And yeah, it was just a lot so I stops

Michele Baci

Give us too much in your week.

Joseph

Yeah, I just felt like every time I went to appointment, I wasn't like prepared for it. And since I was like starting to do EMDR, it's kind of something you have to once you start it, you have to be pretty adamant about it. And I was not able to maintain that. It's in person therapy. So you also have to go down there. You have to physically hold on to something. It's a lot.

Michele Baci

Yeah, yeah. To make the time to drive there and mentally prepare for

Joseph

this work in the house. It's just almost impossible.

Michele Baci

Yeah, the house has been like a full time job. It's been so

Joseph

much. Yeah, a lot of appointments.

Michele Baci

Yeah, a lot of work to be done.

Joseph

But the big projects are pretty much behind us. So far. That's what we keep saying. Yeah, no.

Michele Baci

I think we are on an upswing, so we'll see how it goes. Yeah. Now that we have our own offices, a little bit separate from each other, that's you have your own office,

Joseph

I have the room of tears. Well,

Michele Baci

you're going to try it out. It's not going to be a room of terror forever. He means his desk is in the room. That's the den where all of our boxes

Joseph

are Yes. And Michelle's room office is a perfectly clean, newly painted with new floors room.

Michele Baci

It's minimalist and

Joseph

mine is boxes and a bed. A couch stacked on another couch. And my chair in the corner like I live in a cave.

Michele Baci

Slowly, we will we will take apart the den, unpack it and you will live in less chaos, I promise.

Joseph

Yes. It kind of feels like I'm Jeff right now but

Michele Baci

tell the audience who Jeff Jeff

Joseph

Jeff was the homeless man that lives in front of our apartments on on a cots with a with a beach umbrella and a lot of canned goods that he would always try to give to us. He had a traffic cone dress up like a Christmas tree. Yes. And then. And then he he got an apartment. And all the homeless people got mad at him because he had an apartment. But he was living on the streets still during the day and then he would sleep in his apartment.

Michele Baci

Yeah, and I saw him with a clean face like showered. He looks better dirty. Gotta say it.

Joseph

I mean, he's, he's he's well weathered man. I'm glad he took a shower. It's nice that it took a shower though. I'm sure he hasn't take a shower in a long time.

Michele Baci

No, it's definitely better for him. I just didn't recognize him without all the layers of, of life on him. That was funny though. I came home from New York. And Joseph had been here for over a week by himself. And there were just like, a lot of

Joseph

dishes and garbage dishes everywhere. But there was garbage.

Michele Baci

And you said I feel like I've been living like a homeless person.

Joseph

Well, cuz every night after I got off work, I immediately just started pulling up carpet and nails because I had to pull up all the carpet by myself and the tack strips. And all the staples in the carpet. And this place is huge. I know. I know. You've got a giant and a giant living room. All carpeted.

Michele Baci

I'm not knocking the work you did, but I'm just commenting the place you choose to work with your desk and sleep in the bed the den you had made into a garbage dump a little bit,

Joseph

not a garbage dump. I had to move everything from the rest of the house, including your desk into this room. And so I had consolidated all of our belongings into the bedroom. And it was kind of chaotic when she got back because I hadn't finished cleaning up all the boxes and like stacking them properly.

Michele Baci

I know it was a lot of work. It's too much room. Yeah.

Joseph

And I did it all by myself.

Michele Baci

With the help of Emily.

Joseph

First thing when she comes home she says this place is a mess. And I was like well, what did you What did you say? Little things that you overlook? I did not overlook any of them. I ran out of time.

Michele Baci

Okay. Anyway, I was just echoing back a comment you had made about living like a homeless person. Yes,

Joseph

I did feel that way.

Michele Baci

There's a kombucha here. That's like it's just glued to your drink. And you're like, No, I don't know, when I took that out.

Joseph

I like took it out. I like took it out at this point and then yeah, it's hard is probably four or five days old just sitting out on the table.

Michele Baci

That is just homeless person level.

Joseph

I wouldn't say homeless person level.

Michele Baci

very forgetful.

Joseph

No, I just too, too much going on.

Michele Baci

Yeah, too much. So are you going to go back to therapy? Do you have any plans to

Joseph

maybe later? Yes, later? Yes. Later.

Michele Baci

You said you would read a book with me that our couples therapist recommended. Yeah. We're gonna read that book, audio book or something. We'll

Joseph

figure that out.

Michele Baci

Okay, unspoken legacy by Claudia black. It's about trauma. Yeah. She recommended we read it. And our couples therapist is basically like, you don't need me. Like, you don't need a couples therapist. You need this book about trauma.

Joseph

You're like, Well, I mean, she she kind of said that I have a lot more therapy I need to do. And, yeah, there's a lot of interesting. I already knew this. I've been to work through patches. I've been through a lot of therapy, but nothing rigorous enough.

Michele Baci

Yeah, like maybe not everything has been resolved to

Joseph

how could best boy most likely just have cptsd. receipt? Yeah, that's right. Complex, complex. Post Traumatic Stress Stress

Michele Baci

Disorder. Yeah, the trauma book is good. I've started the first chapter.

Joseph

Yeah, yeah, it's probably I have trauma. It's probably it's probably gonna be like less traumatic for you to read, and more traumatic for me to read. Well, it's not a content. No. That's not what I'm saying. Okay.

Michele Baci

I was just saying, I've already started and I've gotten some stuff out of it. That's good. Yeah. And I think I will reach out to new therapists soon I've, I finally went back to doing stand up. today. I went to an open mic. Joseph got me out of the house. Thank God and I must stand up. It was so nice to go back. And now coming back from an open mic set. I feel like everything is possible. I can totally be a comedian. I could definitely go back to therapy. I can, you know, do

whatever I want. So I think I'm gonna go back to therapy, too.

Joseph

So you ended up using that that joke that you told me?

Michele Baci

Yeah, I didn't hit the best. It's a shorter joke, but I also was doing very off the cuff.

Joseph

Yeah, stuff. So maybe you see it play with him more? Yeah, I think it's a pretty good joke.

Michele Baci

Thank you. Um, yeah, it was all new material. And it was more like, just go and do it and see if you can survive, and I did.

Joseph

I'm glad that she didn't try and do old material.

Michele Baci

Well, it's not like I'm rehearsing for a shower or something. No,

Joseph

I mean, yeah.

Michele Baci

Why not? Just try nice to. Yeah, first show post COVID first, Mike post COVID feel surreal. Slay my old life. So any questions you have for me are should we spin the wheel?

Joseph

Oh, yeah, I forgot about the wheel. I don't know. I don't have any questions. I'm my brain is fried.

Michele Baci

Okay, I'll spin the wheel for you.

Joseph

Spin it. Give it a bunch of spins My gosh.

Michele Baci

Describe your perfect day.

Joseph

My perfect day.

Michele Baci

Joseph looks like this is a really hard question.

Joseph

I don't know. I don't know probably sleep in a little bit. Like maybe my garage is set up in a not chaotic manner. And I can actually do woodworking. Yeah, tackling in the garage organization. That's our next big project. Doing some woodworking and then maybe like, later that day going to dinner with you. That'd be nice. We're gonna go acids. Yeah. Nice. Oh, we hardly ever do. Yeah, I mean, well, it's part of the whole thing that's going on right now.

Michele Baci

That'd be nice. So a little bit of extra sleep. A nice garage. You could watch Yeah. And then dinner with me. Yeah. What would you want to work on in the garage? Oh, no.

Joseph

I can't think that far ahead.

Michele Baci

Really? That's unlike Yeah,

Joseph

I mean, I have I have a project going on right now, but it's, it's for somebody else, so it's not as it's still fun.

Michele Baci

Yeah, tell us about it.

Joseph

Uh, it's like my best friend wanted to wanted a headboard. And it's just like, headboard. It's gonna have tambour doors. Which are like these sliding wood doors. Buy Yeah, that's that's the project. Really nice wood. Yeah, yes, mahogany. And then the tambores you're gonna be timbers you're gonna make made out of a bunch of different ones. I'm not sorry together for him.

Michele Baci

Would you rather organize the garage first, or the den? Where all of our stuff is? What? Would you rather organize your living space in the house or the garage for?

Joseph

Probably the garage? Because we have to like, get that dumpster? Yeah, I would really like to not have a pile of garbage on the side of the house.

Michele Baci

Oh, goodness. I thought that was just me who had that wish? No. It's good to know. on the same page.

Joseph

I feel like we can't have a housewarming party till that trash is gone.

Michele Baci

For sure. I mean, it's like we don't even live here yet. Because there's so much trash.

Joseph

Yeah, we piled up all the carpet. I piled up all the carpet on the side of the house. And it is.

Michele Baci

I was here. It's

Joseph

it is a full dumpster full of carpet and stuff.

Michele Baci

We'll add it to the errands list how to get a dumpster. And when is the best time to get a dumpster. Now we also painted so much and had to jump out the paint bucket like we're renting the brush brushes. And now our driveway and our house and our lawn is a little bit red.

Joseph

Yeah, somebody splashed paint onto the house when dumping.

Michele Baci

It could have been both of us. But it's probably Yeah,

Joseph

but that's fine. So power washers are for. And I was just concerned about getting in on your car and instead of just reached our house and I said I would much rather you get it on my cheap ass car than for a new house we just bought.

Michele Baci

Well, we're not going to keep it as color forever, right?

Joseph

It doesn't matter.

Michele Baci

Yeah, it was just funny. Because as much as we did a good job painting, there's some like cleanup parts were like we don't know how to clean up this

Joseph

part wasn't that we don't know how to clean up this part as just like, in the time crunch that we had we kind of just left the cleaning outside. There's such a time crunch. It's just a mess outside. We painted three rooms and today.

Michele Baci

Which is insane. But

Joseph

it looks never again. Amazing.

Michele Baci

It does. But next time we double the amount of time and we travel well ahead of time because we were preparing day of

Joseph

Well, that's how this whole entire process has felt.

Michele Baci

Right. Well, we could take steps to fix that.

Joseph

For the future. Maybe Yeah, we have to have a good idea.

Michele Baci

We have to otherwise I will be running away screaming into the woods.

Joseph

Okay. I'll keep that noted.

Michele Baci

But yeah, I feel like this is a good talk. Anything you'd like to share with the listeners anything you'd like to promote? Joseph.

Joseph

I would like to promote Michelle's comedy. It's great. You should go out and see her request heard all of the stablishment in California.

Michele Baci

She's now doing in person events in Los Angeles. That's me. I'm talking with her person.

Joseph

Yeah, that's great. Keep going.

Michele Baci

Thank you can follow me at Michelle Bochy, comedy on Instagram Michelle with one l or at Michelle Bochy on Twitter. Yeah, there

Joseph

you go. Thanks, Joe. Follow me.

Michele Baci

You'll just say you'll hear the stories through me and the podcast, I

Joseph

guess.

Michele Baci

Well, I appreciate you. Thank you for doing this.

Joseph

You're very welcome.

Michele Baci

Have a great evening.

Joseph

You say like you're leaving.

Michele Baci

Well, the podcast is ending.

Joseph

Okay.

Michele Baci

I was gonna run into the woods screaming and changing my name. Is that okay? There

Joseph

are no Woods here. So good luck.

Michele Baci

Okay, well, I gotta do some googling. I'm gonna wrap this up. Talk to you later. Bye. Bye. Hey, I want to thank you personally for listening to the podcast. This has been Therapy Roulette, where I give you consent to vent. I would love to keep making episodes and putting out this podcast into the world. And in order to do that, people have to find out about it and they have to listen. So please leave a review. If you have 10 seconds to spare, reviews go a

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