Is this the end for Tom Brady?

certainly covered Tom Brady extensively during his career. Mike course in New England, Sarah, these last couple of years here in Tampa. And let's start right there, Sarah, with that last game, Tom Brady walks off the field with virtually no pomp and circumstance after losing to the Rams. Bucks eliminated from the postseason, Matt gayan to win it for the Rams. Snap, ball down, the kick is up, and a kick. Here's good. If the Rams are going to the NFC Championship game. And have we seen the last

the most decorated quarterback in NFL history, Tom Brady? Is he done? And we're all left to wonder is this the last we've seen of Tom Brady, How did you assess his mentality is demeanor that whole day following that game. If you watched him walk off the field in that game, you never got this sense that that was it. And I say that only because I remember I specifically watched Byron left, which because it's like this moment that, um, you know the season has just ended. You know, Byron

is out there for head job. Like Byron could not be back. There was a laundry list of people that could not be back, right, Tom would be back at the bucks if he's coming back. And so I watched Byron walk off the field. Then Tom comes after I watch Tom off off the field, and there was not a moment of a pause to either look around to take in this idea of like, this is the last time I'm ever going to be in an NFL uniform

and and that's what I was looking for. And I just go back to a year before, and I think about Drew Brees, and I know Drew Brees was on that farewell tour, right, but yeah, we had a moment going out the tunnel and and and looking up and waving to fans, and he went out and it was a heartbreaking loss right in the playoffs, and and the other thing if you think about is is the way

that the Bucks went out. I mean it was really, aside from the Super Bowl, it would have been the most remarkable comeback when in Tom's career, right aside from what he did against the Falcons of the Super Bowl. It was an insane game. The last couple of minutes of that game were completely wild. When Leonard four scored the Touchdow, I just remember thinking, Oh my god, they are now going to win this game. And so it just all happened very quickly, right, It was like a

dagger to the heart really quickly. But I just remember watching him walk off and thinking, in the back of my mind, if this was a guy that was done, wouldn't you have that moment of reflection. And I'm not saying a big one, but just even the tiniest like look up, look around, And there wasn't. I mean, it was just very business like jogs straight off, didn't really look up at all, didn't really acknowledge anyone, just ran

through that tunnel and right off the field. So again, if you're strictly speaking about that moment, I didn't see it. I didn't see a guy that, after twenty two years, in that moment was going to allow himself, whether he's retiring or not, he in that moment certainly didn't allow himself to have that moment of reflection. He didn't show it to us. Yeah, you know, I go back to and it was late in that season, his last season with New England. They're gearing up for the playoff game

against Tennessee. As we know, his last game as a Patriotist. Titans beat New England at Gillette And I had asked him a question because the teammates have talked about a

speech you'd give him. You know, some of your teammates were talking about you've given a speech before the game, and how he was reminding them to be laser focused, that you never know when these opportunities are gonna come because the urgency and now we're talking about these are playoff games essentially, and now it's really the time to sort of buckle down and really put all the distractions aside.

You can get to that later. And when I asked him about it, he went in this long answer, I try to pick the right time to express the things that are important that I feel are important and He talked about the idea that when you're a younger player, it's so easy to um just concentrate on football generally. You don't have a family, you don't have these business opportunities. You're not You're just worried about being a football player,

making your money, getting your next contract. And then you know, your life starts to mature a little bit more. You know, I think everybody puts a lot aside. You know, I think we all do. We all have jobs, and you know I don't have you know, I'm gonna you know, I have a lot of grown up issues. You know, you deal with kids and family and you know, life things, and you know, a lot of younger guys don't. That's just a reality. And here he is at that point whatever,

forty one years old, forty two years old. He was like, as an older Claire, you start to realize all the things that you've left behind and you've sacrificed, and the things that you've missed that you'll never get back. And the longer you do it, you know, you try to express to them that you know, these are these are important things and if it's important for me to sacrifice

for them, they gotta do the the saying. And that's the reality of football is it takes on part of your life because this is you know, you played for a long period of time during the season. It's not you know, their games are scared with every Sunday, so they take precedent over basically everything else. And you know, it's just it's a lot of important things we're doing and trying to do the right thing. And he's got three kids, obviously,

two different women. One lives in New York Gazelles with him. Doesn't see the kid you're you're not You're not getting to the plays, You're not getting to the basketball games. There are certain things he's so regimented. You know, I'm going to bed at eight thirty at night, Like there are certain things that he's just not wasn't able to do as a father because he was so single minded in this approach to win football games and be the best that he could possibly be, that he missed all

these things. So then when I heard him talk about it in the aftermath of the loss to that in that last game, and I was like, I really hammered at home, Like this is something that he's been wrestling with for a long long time, and I know he said I'm gonna play until I suck. I said a long time ago, when I suck, I'll retire. But what I really meant was, when you know I'm not capable leading the team to victory, then someone else has to do the job. But I always found that interesting because

Tom Brady will never let himself suck. He would never get to that point. He would never be the guy on the field who the other guys on the team look at and go this guy, like, we can't win with this guy. He was never gonna let it get there.

So it's odd you maybe you want to walk off with the super Bowl championship and all that, but to play as well as he did in the second half and to push that team to where he pushed them, and to finish with the numbers that he finished at the age of forty four, maybe it does make some sense that he had all this stuff that he had compartmental eyes and had been dealing with. He just finally realized, like, it's good. I'm good. I'm in a good place now.

Like I went out, I'm still playing great football. I'm gonna be someone that people are gonna talk about in the upcoming season if someone has a quarterback injury, well, Tom come back, You're gonna get all these things. And like he's got all the things in his life now and he can spend more time doing the things that

he's missed over the last however many years. I want to go back to that twenty four hour period where on a Saturday afternoon in the midst of what some was it a record Mike, did we get record snow in New England's let's just let's just say my back is completely jacked right now and it's gonna be for god knows how long. There was a lot of snow removal that happened over the course of the last thirty six hours, and I think Sarah even got some cold.

I think Sarah even had to put like a hoodie on down in Florida because of New Engloaders don't want to hear that. They don't like, Okay, I know you guys want to hear this. It's actually been cold in Florida. Not not today if you see to worry, but the that divisional game was called the wild Group for Floridians, Like, let's take this all with like you have to have a barometer of where you measure things. For Floridians. It

was cold. I woke up on Sunday Conference Championship Sunday because their Tampa would have had a game here it was thirty six. Because in my mind I was thinking I would have been on I would have been on Sunday morning if the Bucks were here hosting, and it would have been thirty six degrees out and you know what would have happened here, Mike, people would have literally lost their minds. I would have gotten calls from my mom being like, I don't think you're safe out there.

I mean, but you have to understand, like that's where week down here. Yeah, I was walking the dog yesterday I think was minus seven after the river, hanging out. So I mentioned all that because, like I thought, you know, Mike, Mike and I, for those who don't know, work together for five years in Boston, kind of not together. We were more adversaries than anything. Um, but I worked. I worked for a somewhat competing local sports station in the NBC in Boston, and um and I you know, storm

coverage is like a you know, it's a thing. It's like hurricane coverage. Yeah, it's Hurricane Florida in Florida, it's it's you know, blizzard, nor Eastern coverage um in Boston is like an all day around the clock thing. And so then this news comes out about Tom Brady is retiring, and I'm like, oh my god, I feel for those poor souls on Boston television right now who now have to deal with blizzard and Brady coverage, which you know would be an all day thing there, nor easter that's

gonna like ruin question now. I mean, the blizzard is still dominated. But I will tell you this, I know of at least one station that when the news first crossed about Brady broke in. But Mike, you did a phenomenal job. You know, during that coverage, you jumped on NFL network and you were part of our you know, our breaking news coverage as this was all unfolding and are all trying to make sense of it all and kind of giving some perspective to what you know, Brady

meant to New England in his career. And then you also started getting some additional reporting in that you know, kind of made us all go all right, is you know, is this happening? What's what's going to take us kind of behind the curtain as to what those that twenty four hours was like. As you heard the initial report and then you start to hear some of the other stuff. Well, let me give you a little behind the scenes of just TV one on one. Right. So I'm out there shoveling.

So I shoveled six or eight inches, and like I had just come in, so I'm like, I got I got snots because let's face it, it's cold. You're freezing my hands, like everything's you know, my hair is disheveled because I got the hat on, I got gloves. And then my phone goes off. One of our producers, Matt Hill, we need you. We gotta, like you gotta get out there. And I was like, dude, you gotta, you gotta give

me like ten minutes, and like I gotta. I'm not dressed, you know, like I haven't all shaved, I've had nothing. I'm a mess, you know. Um. But so then you know we're and I'm like texting to people right away and people are like, oh, I'm not surprised. You know, we heard rumblings of it. And we're doing the report. And as we're doing the report. Immediately you start to get the well, wait a minute, Doan Yee, his longtime agent, says, you know, no, one's no no decisions been made. You're

gonna hear that from Tommy when when when the time comes? Um? And then I reached out to his dad, who as, if you're in Boston, you well know his father likes to talk and has at times been told by his son to shut up pretty please. I guess it's the nicest way you can put that. Um. But I was like, look, this is one of those cases where I will reach out to him just to see if he can shed any light on what's going on. And he said basically like this is all. I got the text right here.

I should just read it. Um. But I guess I wasn't surprised because the long story is there's no way they were going to do this on a Saturday before conference championship. But what he wrote back to me was like, the story, Mike is total conjecture. Tommy has not made a final decision one way or the other, and anybody

else that says that he has is absolutely wrong. So then you're like, well, wait a minute, now, hold on, yeah, what are we you know, so I you know, I talked to Ian, Um, we're obviously talking with our producers, and we still felt good enough about the information. Not

good enough. He felt very solid and the information that we had that he was in fact on a step away just a matter of you know, timing, I guess this, but it's certainly just raised even more uh swirling rumors and what's going on and like what are we what are we doing here? And how do we get that to the to the end result here with with with

what Tom's gonna do. And then this last part, Sarah, you know, for you is that we talked a lot about the way the language has changed in the way and in the last few weeks, maybe in particular this year, and how Tom has talked a little bit differently about the end game. And you started to notice that in the last couple of weeks as well, right, and Ian wrote a whole story on it. And obviously being down in there in Tampa and covering it most every day,

how did you observe that demeanor change? Um, well, you know, it's two fold. It's weird because right he Mike just mentioned it. There was the day that he said, you know, I want to play until I suck and I can't win. And to Mike's point, like, he's just he's not gonna suck, right,

He's not. There's no way he could. He's just that's not him, right, And um, but there was a there were points in this season and I would say even until like pretty late in the season, I mean, look, the guys leading the league in touchdowns, he's leading the league in passing, He's doing certain things that, um, he would do it at the prime of his career to ask some people are like, are you in the prime in some senses and in that way when you can do that and go out in this league and do that?

And um, you know, I know there were a lot of questions of like, hey, we know you want to step away, but do the numbers you're putting up change things? Right? Even if you had that in your mind, Like I mean, he got those questions, um as well, because who walks away when they lead the league in touchdown? I mean you're not just talking about you're playing at a high level. You're playing at the highest level. Well, what is that number? Now?

Touchdown passing the red hometown six six no interceptions. Those are special numbers from Tom Brady, Well, you're doing something better than anybody else is doing. Or I guess you should say you're throwing more touchdowns than anybody's throwing. You're throwing for more passing yard. Um, does that change your mind? Uh? You know Tom was never gonna. You know, he kind of gives the PC answer, right, he's gonna. He's thoughtful in what he says. I feel it's, you know, for me,

always about the team's success. So you know, it's hard to compare one year to another. I feel like I've felt like I want to play as a championship level player. That's That's what I've said for a long time. And he says a lot without saying too much, if that makes sense, And Mike knows exactly what I'm talking about,

Like he answers these questions. He will talk sometimes for five minutes and then you're like, we didn't really say anything right, like in terms of like he answers you, but he doesn't go deep on like I'm to do this idea that there were a lot of family comments. I don't think it's the first time we've heard him say that his family is important. I don't think It's also the first time that we've heard him say that

he's going to weigh things, um after the season. But I think that there was more in previous seasons, and

Mike can speak to this. It always felt more definitive, right. Um, you just started to not hear definitive answers, not hey, I'm not going to be back, but just I guess not the exclamation point people would have wanted on these questions are asking to him like, you know, a hundred percent be back, right, He's not gonna say he didn't say that, um, And just you saw him be maybe more reflective in the family way in which Mike's talking about. And it wasn't just with us in Tampa. It was

on his national platforms. It was on if he goes on Howard Stern, Like you just you're hearing that more

and more. But I think what's so hard for people to wrap their minds around myself included as you're seeing him like launched this comeback and you're seeing him do the things he did without his star players, Um, it always makes you think, well, gosh, what if he had this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy that didn't get hurt, and so I think that that's what's so hard, And it's also it's so great about Tom Brady is if he wants to walk away,

he walks away doing it at the highest level. Um, you know. I I don't think anybody there's nobody that thinks that they didn't get to the next round because Tom Brady, right, Like, I mean, he was missing a million pieces, um. And so that's what makes it so hard to think about him walking away. And then there's people like, well, he could have walked away last year, right with the confetti fallen down, and he didn't want

to walk away. Then I just think everyone gets to a point in their lives right where they feel to your point where a like satisfied, right, And maybe it took maybe it took another nineteen games of this season to be satisfied. Maybe it took ten games into this season, and he's like, I feel like it's enough. Like I don't think anybody knows when it's enough except him, right,

But I totally agree with you. There's no scenario. I don't think that the way that things leaked out is how he would have wanted it, Like there would be some awesome video that's coming on his I mean, you see this stuff he posts all your I'm like, his hype videos are better than anybody's hype video. Think they're so good. And I have to imagine that there's some great like Mike Drop video that's coming and Tom should

have the right to say when and how that's done. Um. So it's surprising that it's sort of kind of unraveled the way it has. Yeah, And I think the one thing that we can agree on is that that this wasn't the way it was going to happen. And when it does, you know, happen officially in a very well night here in the next few days and weeks, and it's going to be something that comes from him and uh, and we'll see that in one way, shape or form.

Maybe it's another like silhouette leading or going into a stadium, which we're all left to a cipher and wonder what that was all about. Maybe there'll be some more cryptic tweets or instagrams or something. We'll we'll we'll find out. But the one thing we do know is he will leave the NFL at some point. Whenever he does, is the best player to ever play the game. Certainly the best quarterback, best overall player. I don't think there's any

doubt at this point with his accomplishments. How did you get here? How did you go from the sixth round

pick too? Seven Super Bowl rings? Dig into that here a little bit and the favorite memories from Mike and Sarah in their time covering Tom Brady right after this all right back here an NFL inside report, Mike Giardi and Sarah Walsh gracious enough to scoopy here with us as we talked Tom Brady in the well non retirement retirement situation that we've all kind of been sifting through over the course of the last few days and probably will um for as long as it takes for Tom

to make some sort of official announcement of his own. But let's start here, um this part of this, Mike, with this is a player who's forty four years old, that has played twenty two years in the How did you see the evolution of him and in his work that he put into get his body right each and every year? Like where did you start to see the evolution of the whole TV twelve method and all that

that that really gave us this longevity that he's had. Yeah, I think to me, you started to see a difference in his body shape. I mean, he if you go back and we've seen the picture obviously in his underwear, from the from the from the combine where you know, I mean you'll you'll never forget that picture. But he always kind of had like a little bit of a chunky face and he had a smushy body like he wasn't this freak athlete, which you know, not all quarterbacks

are built that way. I'm with Ben Roethlisberger obviously stands out right now. Um, but right around two thousand six, I think you started to see this more of a commitment to that. And then obviously, oh seven, they go sixteen and oh and come within a whisker of completing a perfect season, losing to the Giants in the Super Bowl. Um, I thought you saw a sort of a different approach there. And then the second part of that was when they

drafted Garoppolo. And I always say that's one of Bill Belichick's greatest picks, aside from picking Tom Brady, is because they had seen decline in Tom. Now, we didn't see it too much. I mean, you look at some of the numbers and you say, this is down a little bit, this is down. But internally they were concerned and they thought it was a three year process of this where there had been declines and poor performances in big spots, and they go and pick Jimmy, and Belichick says, everybody

locally remembers it. We all know Tom's age and contract situation. Well, Mr competitive Tom Brady, that absolutely lit another fuse. He went bananas. He hated that his family hated that it was disrespectful, and he cranked it up to a completely different place that I don't know that anybody could have predicted it would have gone there to win four more Super Bowls since that point, I mean, phenomenal. And I brought this worry up when we talked about it on

Saturday on air. There was the third year of Garoppolo. There was an inter squad scrimmage and training camp, and Belichick had been and McDaniels had been pumping Jimmy's tires and Jimmy looked pretty good, and you're like, is there a real Like, is there a chance? Here? Is there

a chance? And Brady through one incomplete past and I hate stats and in preseason stuff, I think it's ridiculous training camp practices, but that was like a real game type situation and he cut out Garoppolo's heart that day. Just it was it was like one of those things that I always remember about him. And it was an August day in Foxboro on a backfield. Well and thankfully for you, Sarah, you never had to ask Bruce arians if he was going to evaluate the quarterback situation like

Mike Giardi did. Uh there you go, Mike, way to work. You love you. Um yeah, So actually, do you guys, do you want to know the story? I was like, hey, between Blade and Tom, like what I mean, put every practice this year round? I mean, I don't know that's true. Thank you, all right, tell the story. But quickly they had lost the game in Kansas City. Uh, they locked badly. I think they were one in three at that point or one and two. I I forget the one in three.

I think um Brady looked terrible. Is ducking where pass rushers weren't coming, seeing ghost the whole thing. Garoppolo gets inserted late in the game, takes him down the field, scores again garbage touchdown. But my colleague and I, Tom Kerrent, we were watching it, and we're like, we gotta ask

him about the quarterback. And I'm like, well, you have a better relationship with Bill than I do, so I'll be the I'll put myself out there, wow on the sword the thing that, and Belichick didn't even give an answer. He snorted and like the shoulders people football as well. I think our team, you know, competed. I mean I thought it competed there at the end. That's what they

should do. The thing that people forget about that is I was on the air like five minutes after that, and I was like, if Jimmy has to play this year, then something has gone horribly wrong, horribly right, Like that wasn't the plan. Then the team galvanized around Tom and they won a Super Bowl. So I don't know where my ring is, but I feel like I should have got at least something, definitely should have gotten some credit

for that. So with that, then like what stood out to you, Sarah the most about covering Tom in these last two years in Tampa? And then Mike, you know, get you get your thoughts on that as well. I was just thinking, um about like if you were like, what's your favorite memory? Yeah, and well, first of all its stay out To me the most is he changed that franchise. Um, he changed the organization in terms of relevance. I mean that's a that's a pretty simple one, right.

I mean the Bucks, as someone who grew up in Tampa, UM, they've never been nationally relevant. Even when they want a Super Bowl, They're not like known as like a national We're not a huge market. Um. I remember being at ESPN and I would always be like, hey, let's just some of the Bucks, and there just was like, no, it's the Buck, It's Tampa. Nobody really cares, right while it takes is tom Brady. Tom Brady can go to you know, he could be playing in Sweden next year.

Everyone's gonna care, right, Like. I mean, that's what he does. He would do that to any organization, and and so that's what he did to Tampa. UM. It's not that they had never won a Super Bowl here. They had, but it was just a changing of culture in terms of your relevance easily. And then just this competitive nature. And Mike talked about it in a training camp practice

in August, and he brought that to this team. And then I think personally it's someone who didn't cover Tom Brady but only saw him in New England under you know,

Bill Belichick, where you just didn't see these personalities. Um he loosened up or I mean he just showed a side that we've never seen before, right, Like did anybody think Tom Brady was really funny like before or these last two years, like he's if you didn't know him, like funny, Like he does these funny videos, he makes funny comments, and Um, my favorite Tom Brady memory would have to be the boat parade situation. Like, I mean, you he won a lot of Super Bowls before, right,

did we ever see that in New England? And I remember being at the end of the parade and somebody was like helping him off the boat and they're like his Tom drugging. I'm like, well, no, it's Tom, of course. Like I'm just thinking that he's not. I'm like, oh, he must have stumbled because I just I wasn't on the part of the like cavalcade that went down the river.

I was at the end where they had this very like this person is going to talk then this was that's not what happened, Like when they got to the end, did you staw happened but it made Tom Newman and the and the Lombardi launch from one boat to the other. Like I just saw this human side of a guy just really enjoying himself and being like every other dude

out there. And Tom Brady is not like every other dude out there, right, Like he is on a different level um popularity wise, Like I mean, he's a different he's in a different category than every other athlete, right, And and to see that side of him and that was awesome. I thought it made him human. So my my favorite Tom Brady would be the Tom Brady at the boat parade over indulgent Tom Brady. Yeah, well, I

mean maybe that tells you where my head is. It just like got her end of the season for me, No, but I enjoyed. I didn't have any beverages that day. I was live on the air, so maybe other people enjoyed themselves. I love what you said there, Sarah, because to me, that's the thing that I really enjoyed most about the last two years of Tom and Tampa. That the end in New England was it was drudgery at times, right,

it was like this slog to get through it. And yeah, they won the Super Bowl and eighteen, and that was sort of improbable. And there were some great Brady moments late in the year, and certainly in Kansas City in the a C Championship game, but like that, that team wasn't having a ton of fun, or he didn't appear to be having a ton of fun. And what you saw, especially in that first year in Tampa was just this like I can be sort of free, and Bruce is

gonna let me be who I want to be. And I think Bill gets a bad rap in that regard, because I think veteran players in New England can be who they want to be, but I think they just naturally sort of fall in line even when they've given more rope to do what they want. So I think it was just nice to see him just sort of relax a little bit and show that side that you

didn't get to see a ton of. And I will say personally, I mean, there's a million football memories and practice memories, but I do have one memory that sticks out to me every year, for whatever the last four or five before COVID hit, I would take my son to one training camp practice and he would get a little past, you know, and even sit on the hill with us and no interviews, you're not getting an autographs.

You would just sit there and watch the practice. Got me just be cool to walk through across the game field to get to the practice field, and just that little moment for him and he and my daughter came one year, I think it was, it might have been, but we we've come underneath the stadium and the players will walk out through the bottels of the stadium to get to the stairs to go to the upper field

to practice, and we were kind of held in check. Well, the players went by and Brady was walking by, and it was just the three of us, my my son, daughter and myself and and their players are going by and Tom stopped and it was maybe fifteen yards away, twenty yards away, and he just gave them this huge smile and it was just one of those things. I talked about it now and it gives me a little bit of goose bumps because they felt it. They didn't know this guy a million times that they never talked

to him. I didn't bring him to events where Tom Brady was at, Like, that's just not my deal, um, And they both like as he walked back up the tunnel, they were like, wow, that was cool, and I was like, yeah, it was. But that was like a father and a father right, Like he just saw me with the kids and he just lit up because he was like, it's gotta be cool to take your kids to to practice one day. And it turns out his kids were on

the hill that day too, which is hell so. But it was just one of those things that I'll I'll carry that with me for a long time. That's really cool. Thanks for sharing that, Mike. Um. And then look as we're as we're left to kind of like pick up the pieces if in fact Tom does retire. You know, we've seen the you know, the next phase in New England led by now pro bowler Mac Jones in his first year as you know as a rookie first year starter did very well this year. Only expect things to

continue to build. But what about for Tampa, Sarah. I know Jason Light has talked about the fact that they really like Blaine Gabbert there. Um, you know, I'd still be mildly surprised if they choose to go forward with him as you know, their starter for an extended period of time on here. If that's if that's the way they go. Is this still a super Bowl caliber team considering the turnover that might happen this offseason. I think we're not sure the extent of the turnover right now.

I think that you could see a Domino situation. Right Um, maybe there's certain free agents that like, hey, if they feel like this thing is gonna fall apart, they go one way or the other. Um. I think we don't know what's going on the coaching staff. I mean, I think there's so many questions, so it's really hard to know that. I do know that Bruce was recently asked like if you do feel comfortable with like who's on

your roster now? And Blame is actually a free agent, and then there's Kyle Track and you know, Verus said like, I'm comfortable with everybody on our roster and eat but immediately goes. But we're always looking behind door number two. I do not play anymore. Do you think there's a better than average chance your next quarterbacks already on your roster? I'd be comfortable with Rick if it is, you know, I like what we have. Um, but again, you never

know what's behind door number two. We we kind of went down that road two years ago and there we sound Brady, So we'll have to wait and see. I think that tells you everything you need to know, Like he's not going to slam his guys that are sitting there and waiting. But you know what's crazy is I was like, it's been a it's if this is it for Tom, it's been a crazy run. I just happened to be down here and COVID hit and Tom came here. And and it was never traditional because Tom didn't have

an introductory press conference. Tom wasn't allowed in the building for an entire year. I was down here covering him. We weren't around Tom except for on Sundays. And you're not really because it was all on zoom. So here's this franchise quarterback that we were never in a room with, Like you weren't at practice with this that change this year? Um, And but I like, what if the Bucks pulled off

something crazy again? I mean, what if Jason Light and these guys go out and get like one of the big names that ruder I've never gonna be leaving in the beach. Like I was like, this could be wrapping

up my NFL network box. Run here here we go and then like there could be an Aaron If there's an Aaron Rodger siting in about three weeks, like I'm not gonna ever get off the beach, which is not a bad problem to have, right but no, But so I definitely think that, you know, kidding aside, I definitely think that they will look very hard at what is behind door number two. Um, Bruce Arians like skies that sling it. Uh, Bruce Arians wants that offense to go

with Jamis. Um, there were obviously picks, but you know he threw for a million yards. I mean, that's that's that's Bruce's thing, right, So those guys are definitely looking for the next best solution out there, and and I believe they think that it's out there and not inside right now. That would make a lot of sense. Um. I mean, even though they did draft Kyle Trask in the second round, was the sixth quarterback taken this last year. Um,

you know, didn't seem really at all. That's outside of the preseason, so hard to really know how they feel about him, what they saw from him. I mean running scout team if anything. Um, you know, never getting first first team, second team reps. You know, at least traditionally that's not how it would work, but a lot of unknowns left with Tom Brady and of course with the Tampa Bay Bucks. Thanks to Mike Giardi and Sarah Wallace

for their insights today. Appreciate you guys. All right, that's gonna do it for this episode of NFL Inside Report. Thanks so much for being with us today. As we are post championship games Sunday looking ahead to Super Bowl fifty six. We've got a great plan ahead for you for our Super Bowl coverage from Radio Row and all the fun events that are happening during Super Bowl. But this is also the midst of college All Star game

season as the Draft is coming soon on the horizon. Here, I'm actually doing this podcast with you from Las Vegas, home of this year's East West Shrine Bowl, which you can catch live in prime time on NFL Network a p m. Eastern Time here from Allegiance Stadium as some of the best college players like to make a name for themselves, uh for themselves with NFL evaluators and scouts all around this week, and I look forward to kind of continuing some of our draft coverage and some of

the things that we do evaluating prospects and going through that process with you on this podcast. Reminder to download, rate, review our show on I Heart Radio, on Apple podcast, where ever you get your pods. We greatly appreciate it and we'll be back with you later this week. For producers Thomas Warren and Tim Paracca, I'm your host, Threat Lewis. We'll catch you next time. NFL Inside Report is the production of the NFL and partnership with I Heart Radio.

For more official podcasts from the NFL, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.