Ready to go? No. Are we gonna do it anyways? Yes. (Laughter) Hi,Alison. Hi, Matt. Ooh, that felt right. That's right. That's right. Oh, man, it's 2020, motherfriiiing. Five, everyone. Five of lives. We love the world as we know it And I'm glad I've got good friends That's true. That's true. You know, that is so freaking true. If nothing else. Look, number one, if nothing else, if you don't have good friends, you all make it. Treat yourself. This year. Treat yourself. Get some good
friends. Get some good-ass friends. But it is a brand-new season. Season four. How did we do this? How did two people-- We are closing in on 50 episodes. Boing. I think we were at either 46 or 47 with the end of last season. Even the light, 2024. Even the light, yeah, we made it into the high 40s, so we will be celebrating our 50th episode in here, and we're gonna get a few more. 50 episodes of what, Matt? Well, 50 episodes ofADHd20 which is a podcast that finds the intersection between ADHD.
And TTRPGs. That's right,Alison Yeah. That's exactly what it does. Two people who have ADHD. Yeah. Getting something done. Getting something done. Getting something done. Hands if you're in cities if you will. Yeah, it's body doubling. This is our sit-in Yes, it's our therapy.
It's our it's our work session Matt and I are I'm gonna use this term very loosely adults With ADHD Who were diagnosed as adults so if this is the first episode that you're ever listening to welcome, we're glad you're here Yes, and so it's kind of a a self exploration journey for each of us that we invite you to go on With us and for yourself. Yeah
Yes. Wow. Well said exactly And that journey is continuing this year in 2025 We have a lot of dreams a lot of goals and as you know I'm just gonna start off at the beginning as you know, if you also have ADHD It's quite possible that you you're immediately scoffing by saying goals and No, freaking way and you could be right because We have the best intentions But we don't call them resolutions. We don't call them
resolutions. That's the that's the thing man So we're already a step ahead in my book We like to call them themes And what is our theme for 2025 that we agreed upon last episode aka mama Mastery, that's right We're gonna master some shit Master some shit this year past going to have included magic More yes last year and I think that's how we landed on mastery just to kind of catch you up real quick as we Last year tried a lot of different things in that theme of more We were just drinking from
the fire hose for most of 2024 The things that you've heard us talk about in the past that we have struggled with we are you know Ready to take steps forward and get better at the things that you know We already know that we love we want to become Top of our you know top of the class Yes top tier talent in the way we're we're probably going to revisit some things that we already have dealt with Because guess what we're still doing But I promise that we won't use the exact same words when we
talk about these things well try not to We did Is a lot of times we forget what we said out loud and what was just rattling around in the echoes of our own brain space and so Sorry about it if we repeat ourselves So somehow and I don't know how We kind of pigeonholed ourselves into talking about only ADHD and TTRPGs right and we want to branch out a little bit We want to talk about for some things all things all the things near all the Neurodivergent things yep, certainly
all the all the things about perhaps silent disabilities and loud disabilities Interruptive Yeah, no disruptive Well, there's just so many interesting people yeah that have come into our lives in the last four years and Those people may or may not have ADHD and that does not mean that they shouldn't be on this podcast talking to us so hopefully more guests and There's all manner of other
things beyond TTRPGs. I guess I mean, I don't know what they are yet, but but there's probably something For us it's it's it always comes back to what we are learning here, right? Like what are what are we learning? Are we learning about the game? Are we learning about our brains? Are we learning and so there's lots of people in the world that can help us with these things continue to help and then yes Ak we we we're gonna try something today Just Gonna try something today that is An
immediate kind of step out. I Kind of surprised a K balance again minutes ago with this to see Whether it could be a fun thing But those of you who have who have watched since episode 1 ofADHd20 you you would be able to follow Allison's incredible path of self Improvement and self reflection and self Understanding and so on and so forth and a lot of that we've made fun of by using the words woo-woo But I think that we are taking that word back.
Oh, I Is not it is not derogatory and anyway and in fact, we're gonna try to lean into it a little bit this year Woo and every Meaning of that word possible. Yes in 2025 Yes, and it for those who are are are hearing this and or watching this and saying oh man No, that's it. Yeah turning off. Don't do it because The thing in my toolkit is is is not as
woo-woo. It's true if that really bugs you but it shouldn't Yeah Or know that there was a time when somebody would say Woo-woo shit to me that I would turn them off and look sure
now. Yeah, I can change I can go look at me now or do because I think that's another part of the woo-woo toolkit as Reckon like not everything is for everybody right and so I'm done fighting Like yeah, if it doesn't interest you if it interests you I love having you here and if it doesn't interest you I respect that Yeah, and hope that you still respect me and to Matt's point. There are other very non woo-woo things that will surface Mm-hmm, but now right now I respect youAlison
I respect you Matthew. Thank you Glad we got that light inside me. What's that honors the light inside me?
I thought you said insight me like you wanted me to roll an insight check Well, that is a fun thing that we could try if we ever need to We have an entire channel called the pocket dimension where we we talk about every single thing TTRPG So there is absolutely no way You're gonna get away with hearing this podcast where we're not gonna mention some kind of tabletop role-playing game Yeah, maybe we need to start inciting each other. Oh, I got a four. I have no idea whether yeah, I got 18 Okay
Do you respect me? I think I do really do. I really really think you do. I believe you fully even without that role That would have been a moment and in TTRPG world when like the GM would say like I'm just gonna give you this for free Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See we can we can relate everything to Neurodivergence and or TTRPG is without
even working at it at this point. Yes So yes, so something is going to take a backseat a little bit this year We might see less of the ADHD 100 table. We might Mm-hmm. Hey, we've gotten to know each other incredibly well and have hopefully let y'all get to know us Well as well. Well, well, well We're not we're not killing it completely but we're gonna save it this season For guests because it's a great
way to get to know you. So tell us how that feels, you know, well listen We're malleable we try and be at least yes, so if that doesn't sit right in your soul, I want to know about it Yeah, but yeah, we're gonna do instead whatever. Well, I want you to because it's your idea Oh, so I'm not gonna sit here and take credit for that. You're gonna tell us what we're gonna do it.
Yes Okay in a case whoo-woo journey. She has found a Really beautiful focusing tool Weird right weird, right in the form of an ancient sort of divination Am I am I saying this right like a divination Practice yeah practice practice. Thank
you. That's even better called the tarot and I Think tarot is really hot right now so the other month I was in a bar and We were having a drink and then somebody walked up and said hey We're doing tarot card ratings in the back and I said great that we did did you go get a tarot card
right? I did of course So it's really hot right now and it I don't think anybody believes that we can predict the future But it is like many many things journaling meditation Prayer pretty much any spiritual practice you The purpose is to get to know yourself is to get yourself out of the day to day Right like is to focus on Something and have that something Be just enough out of the norm that kind of washes over you exactly and because what all of these are
is as a call to presence so tarot is not about Seeing the future right a there's I mean I believe in kind of like a limitless timeline approach to time wibbly wobbly time you I mean us personally Yeah, we're too and also time is weird soup and also Free wills at
play, baby. So like I can't discern the future I'd you know, like we can talk about like what steps are most probable that I or anybody else will take But there's always outside factors Weighing in on that so I can leave the house with the intent of arriving on time but I am at the mercy of the other drivers on the road and the Animal that tries to cross the street and you know anything else that can do that Just say real quick. Sorry to interrupt may I
say right? It just means so much to me to have a friend that believes in free will Dude do people know this is news to me. Yeah. Yeah I've known people who swear that there's no such thing as as free will and Look if that's if that's your thing Yay for you. I just I Love free will I love it. I love the concept of it If it all ends up being science and chemicals, that's also okay. But until then I Love it.
I so here's the thing and you know, this is knowing my wound as I absolutely believe in things like fate and destiny And like I believe we have soulmates. I believe we have lots of soulmates I do not believe in a singular soulmate. I'm into that and again that is impacted by free will So you might be predestined to be with somebody to spend this mortal life, you know in someone's arms And then
their free will might be like me. Yeah But then guess what the universe is gonna show up for you in other ways and like there will be others So it like so like nothing is ever an ending I don't think it's just the beginning of something else and life catches us off guard life caught both of us very off-guard a lot Last year it did over and over and over and Is already doing that again this year. My life right now does not look how I thought it was Unfolding. Mm-hmm. And that's okay.
My favorite. My favorite golf does is not named the same thing that it was last year I'm gonna exercise my free will on that much like the Associated Press Look there's just one and man am I bummed I thought you said golf at first and I was like do I even know him? You guys clocked that those of you watching this and not just listening but I was having like a little crisis The word golf before you as a favorite golf Types of golf. I mean there's putt putt and yep normal. So I guess that's two
types of golf. There's I guess disc pickle pickle ball golf pickle Celebrity golf celebrity golf Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, so so taro like any other tool that one might choose. I am never using Taro to see the future. Yeah I use it as a what I mostly say is I use it as a discernment tool It's great if you're any like decision-making deadlock Yeah, and that's what like my whole journey has been about is that like if you're stuck thinking Constantly about either the past
or the future. Yeah, that is putting a lot on your nervous system And so taro and other tools get you into the present moment. What am I experiencing right now? Yeah, what do I have the power to? Manipulate or change right? That's what there is for yes And I I think do have a wide variety of tools in your toolkit is is important So I I personally think that it should be
a spiritual one in your tool. Yeah and I think honestly especially if you have ADHD and you and you're you live with this and you know Some things are easier for other people than they are for you and and it gets you down It brings you it brings you down to have a toolkit that has something to help you with spirituality and and and feeling better about yourself is something like a Task system a system a productivity system that you can lean into and when it's tough a exercise probably or
or at least something that is That will get you up get you out Whether that's going to the gym or Thursday night trivia, you know, whatever it is It's out and about and that's also a you need a social system And that's why we play D&D and yeah dagger heart and all
of the games that you love. These are all tools for us yeah, and so that's kind of what today is about but I'm psyched because You want to we're gonna read some cards for this year We're gonna read some freakin car very apparent to everybody watching and listening this was all Matt's idea What yes, it was it was it was my idea because I've just seen look I've said it before I'll say it again Your growth as a human being is inspiring Pronounced it's it's it's all hard work
and and I I have to attribute both this podcast you and me they're biasing but also your You know this thing that you found this woo-woo, you know, and and you've always been a spiritual person, right?
And So this is this is just this is not really any different for you It's just a different mechanism right that fits in To everything and I said gosh darn it it it should fit in to Audie HD 20 is what I think so and and The tarot deck that you'll be using for these readings is D&D tarot And I really want one because I feel super left out I'm gonna take care of that you will have one my birthday in June you're gonna have one by by this time next week I'm gonna go to
the early stage here part of me now is you know, like can we just like pause real quick? So I can go send it to you. I'll wait till we're done recording I actually fits also has this deck that I also bought for her So and when we're together in person fits our our lore keeper Oh, man This year I also my toolkit I'm gonna have to work out still have this darn thing broken anyway It's our Lord keeper is we whenever we're together in person fits pulls a card. I
believe every day. I don't even do that She's beating me there. But like when we're together, especially we like to pull cards We did a really cool little like at that midnight on New Year's Eve We were together with our friend drew and we were like pulling cards for the year at midnight It was really cool and really
like fun way to usher it in. So yeah, whatever it is Get yourself some kind of physical token to like ground you in the present moment because I think that's really what my I Used to make so many
just I wasn't even making decisions. I was just so ruled by my broken nervous system Yeah that everything felt broken and hard And it was when I started to kind of like tie these like grounding Things which like but like and it doesn't have to be I mean meditation I think it's great but meditations about like feeling the mat beneath you and like paying attention to your breath So there are very physical components of meditation for sure You know, so it can be divination rods and
pendulums and crystals Something as simple as journaling I think you mentioned like yes and paper You know or for keyboard Tablets so we're gonna we're gonna start pulling a card this this Episode's a little wonky and all over the place because it's the first one and we're okay with that But I think we will start future episodes for this We will start the The episodes of the season pulling a card kind of like for the week the episode for Matt and I but I also today
We're gonna do a little special thing where I'm gonna pull a card each for me and Matt But first of all, I'm gonna pull a card for the episode the episode card if you will and So this is just kind of like I like to use you know A good thing when you're starting like what should I be focusing on like what are my guides want me to know? Mm-hmm. I believe that we have this like entourage around us all our spirit guides our team then that is kind of Headed up by the the HB I see your higher self
Told I'm going full. Whoa you guys. Hey, man and so You know a lot your spirit guys are out there when you learn to pay attention to them and listen to them They have a lot to say but man most of us just choose to walk around this life with blinders on And so a lot of times I'll ask the question like what did my guys want me to know right now? Matt tell me when just to whenever feels good When okay
Interesting we use okay. So what's really special about this D&D tarot deck that my good friend Megan who is also one of our listeners Gifted to me and I think it's a very very beautiful deck. It has like a good like feeling It's like a you know,
kind of textured linen II card. Yeah And but so instead of the the way that tarot is built is you have the the first 22 cards or the major arcana And then you have what are called minor arcana, which are four suits And a numbers of each so the four suits are let's see if I can do this without looking our cups Pinnacles swords and wands right in the D&D tarot deck those four Suits are replaced by wisdom intelligence strength and charisma.
That's fun And so one thing about tarot is it's a little the practice is a little different for everybody So the way that you read tarot may be different from the way that I read tarot and that's okay Um So the way that I read tarot I've kind of telegraphed Each of these suits into these these traits. So I call strength wands. I call intelligence swords I call
wisdom coins and I call charisma cups. Oh Bringing you you get to choose that in the D&D deck you get to make those you Like and so if you Google it, so I break from conventional wisdom here Okay, Fitz and I do not agree on this by the way and again That's okay Cuz it's important for me to have a practice that I understand that fits well with my soul and fits to have the same Fresh the way that most of the internet has telegraphed these is
that charisma? I'm sorry that wisdom is cups and charisma is coins But I've been flipped that because that's what works in my head so cups is all about like your intuition creativity feelings and emotions, yeah, and Coins is all about finances work and like the material world Which is why for me wisdom ties to that a little bit better Okay, because your wisdom is the thing that's kind of like piloting you through all of this Whereas your intuition and your creativity for me
is tied to charisma Now what's really interesting about this though is I tend to play high charisma characters Yes, it tends to play high wisdom characters interesting and so it's what like again Make it work for you like hack the system to put it in some at words like You do get to choose Wands are all about like energy and passion It's kind of the fiery Which is why I think that's a good like strength because we can be talking about like physical strength and strength of
mind And then intelligence which is swords is about first of all that's air, but it's also like thoughts It's about words and actions and things like that. And I think that that is and that's swords swords Yeah cups is water Wands are fire And coins are earth Cool and swords are air The sword So anyways, I Here's the card the card that I pulled for us for this episode is like the theme of the episode Okay, this is creepy Matt. See the cards tell the story just like
the dice tell the story. Okay So the first thing that you look at when you're reading so we got the eight of
wisdom, right? Which for me is eight of coins Each of the numbers means something different you have ace through ten and then you have the Knights and pages and kings and queens So each of those numbers means something as does the Knight the page the king and the queen eights are about mastery No, I'm not kidding like you can go Google that That's weird that's weird That's really really weird a Great wonderful way Wow But that's what I'm telling you is like I think that like
spirit is all around us like driving things and you know Like so it makes sense for me like when I get these cards There was a period not long ago where I just kept pulling the same card over and over again Like what are of a 78 card
deck? Why would I keep pulling the same card over and there's nothing different about the cards weight or it's not Bent on the edges like I have no idea when I'm Shuffling and feeling and I'm getting that card and I kept turning that card and that's usually like the universe
trying to get your attention Right. Yeah, so eights are about mastery about action and about accomplishment Okay Wisdom is about finances about work about material possession and my reading of it So I think that this is and I mean I love the art of the card So when I read Tarot the best thing to do is like if you're interested in this like Find a deck that speaks to you like find a store that you can go like that has like sample decks open that you can like Feel in
touch and find artwork that speaks to you and I because the art is what's gonna kind of like lead you Yeah And so what we have going on and with this guy is he's planting something in the ground and you can like depending on your perspective Is he stuck or is he planting is he growing like and this is where that like mastery and accomplishment comes up, right? Because he is now like leveling up and we've got a bright sunshine Around him
what this says to me. This is somebody who is reaping what he has sewed and in this case himself or themself, right?
Wow he's Growing he is he's yeah, and so the better you come to know yourself Which is what like we started out this this this episode is like this is how Matt and I have like come home to ourselves Have come to know ourselves more deeply and in doing so that really has been what the spiritual practice has been about has been about like Learning to love myself, but like truly becoming my own friend becoming my own advocate becoming my own pal And so I just think
that it's incredibly interesting that as we talk about, you know typically speaking at the top of a year at the top of the season you're We to use the dirty words will set the goals will make the resolutions Right and this is kind of reminding us that the more that we can stay grounded physically as he is In the world around us grounded in our community grounded in what is working focusing on that instead of the lack And then mastering that rising attaining fulfilling all of
those different things man So yeah So we won't go this deep in depth every every episode ofADHd20 the season is not gonna be like a full Ontario guard reading Right. No, don't worry everybody if you're worried if you're worried We just thought it would be fun for this one, but this is like what I'll do So I always pull on Sundays just kind of like look ahead at my week. I Do pull when I'm experiencing something good or bad Like I said, I use
it as a decision-making tool. So a lot of times it'll be like What does path a look like? What is the most like because again, I can't tell the future But like what is the most likely outcome of path a what is the most likely outcome of path B? Can you help me decide and things like that? Oh Can I also say for those of you who might be listening to this right now and saying man My favorite freaking podcast is just
going to the dogs. Let me just say That what you just said is Absolutely applicable to rolling dice, which is fate rolling randomness it is absolutely like It is absolutely applicable then to ADHD It's self where we do not have the greatest ability to choose What is next in the priority list? We don't have that and what do I do when I get stuck? Well soon and I'm gonna have a tarot deck, but but yeah, I roll freaking dice I signed things to a list I number them and I and I say hey look
let's go man. Okay, I'll do that next Yeah, this is this is what we're talking about This is why I wanted to do this because yeah, I knew that this is what you do It's it's about it's not just whoa whoa It's like it's it's helping with decision making which is crazy hard for us. Yeah, please continue Thank you.
Well and to that I mean yeah, I even do this with friends now You know where we can't decide where we're gonna eat and we've narrowed it down to two options I'll say great evens are Mexican odds are sushi and we roll a dice and then that way like there's no like I didn't get my way. There's no executive dysfunction analysis paralysis my coach Who everybody knows Britney Smith? She calls it a willpower juice and That we we not only have less of it in her
brains. Yeah We also use it up far quicker And so we have like one of those big Boba straws that we're drinking our Our story when everybody else has like the tiny like standard issue straw. We just got a brain full of tapioca. Yeah Yeah, we're just oh And that's that's that's our willpower that's good. Did you take go-go juice? I Said willpower juice, but I'll go juice better. I like go-go juice better. Boba Boba go go
Tpp tpp t are amazing. Yeah, I love that Drinking going through life drinking drinking our willpower juice through a boba straw Oh That is so good. Okay, so this is just for episode one season for not gonna do this every single time But I also wanted to pull a card each for me and Matt.
Okay, so tell me when when Okay And then this one's gonna be for me feels good Holy Holy smokey's Okay So you my little friend this is kind of we'll call this your theme It doesn't have to be for the whole year can be for whatever amount of time feels good to you You got the nine of intelligence Okay So we've got we've got some tentacles We've got a mind flayer Back here Are they do they care good? Look look look at this is you this is not you this
is you no, no Yes, yes. Okay. So for those of you still consuming this podcast in an audio format What we have going on in this nine of intelligence, which would be the nine of swords in standard tarot Is we've got what looks like not just the mind flayer But a whole mess of horrors going on in the background of this cards And in the foreground we have somebody who is like Meditating super hard, but they look super relaxed Like you can tell like it look in that facial expression like no
straining going on what's that's a dr. Strange chill Yeah, exactly So nines are about if we think about like 10 10 is kind of like completion of the cycle, right? So like eight and nine lead up to that 10 is when we complete the cycle But nine is when we like attain the thing we desire the thing that we want Swords are about like our
thoughts and our actions as words. So this is somebody who is truly learning how to master Like all of the swirling head trash that goes on and not just head trash But like what's going on in the world around them and is able to say like I see you Okay And just kind of like keep breathing through that Which I think is a beautiful like I Need that I need that car, right? You are becoming that card map. I don't need it. You are that I think it's an interesting thing to like Look at through
the lens of our ADHD, right? It's like all of the tools that you're putting in your toolkit are truly teaching you how to Like shut out all the distractions because a lot of it is just noise and you only like you are the one who gets to like decide what you're gonna allow in How cool is that? I know that you know me and because we work together and on to to full-time jobs, but I don't know whether You know exactly How true that card is right this
minute? It really like genuine is super tough for me because I was struggling to to build that toolkit Which is always maybe not a bad place, but it's a complicated place because it it it becomes my hyper focus to adjust the tools if I if I feel that they're not working and to either refined some or get back to some or whatever but It usually means and I'm it's it's an unproductive time for me. It's a It's a
winter time. It's a it's a darker time and especially especially with the world is now and Trying to shut that out but not shut it out but be of but not not in in some ways Wow, that's really cool. I love it.
And I see you as being kind of a high intelligence Like you are very thoughtful one of the most thoughtful people that I know you understand like the weight of Words, you know and like if swords are about thoughts and actions right like marrying those two things together you more than a lot of people that I know understand like The weight of both of those things and how your actions and thoughts and words and you know Impact other people and so you're very mindful of it Which is a
beautiful way to be but then we can't be so mindful of other people's space that we don't make space for ourselves Amen, that's that is that is my challenge. So that is that is what I've yep So that was your card and then my card I got the night of charisma I I am like a magnet for cups and traditional and charisma and and D&D tarot Like it's it's uncanny how often I pull that suit and it like and it's interesting especially for me because cups water I'm a cancer like
ultimate water sign. I am Highly emotional. I am very much fueled by my feelings, but I also like I'm Very quick to like snap into my shell And not want to leave it either. But anyways, so I
love that. I'm always forever pulling the cup suit intuition feelings emotions Knights are a Younger more adolescent like if you think we've got like Knights and Kings and we have pages and Queens like yeah The Knights and the pages tend to represent a more youthful Adolescent energy for better or for worse like sometimes it's good to have young energy and things to drive things forward Whereas the Kings and the Queens tend to be more stuck in their ways But that also comes with its set of
downsides because they can pop off more easily So maybe they are not you know as grounded as they can and should be which is Very much me, but I love this card specifically in this deck is of how freaking weird it is We have a we have a construct We have a clank to put it into dagger heart term. Yes Is what we have here. So we have this like eyeball Mechanization machine thing with some like spectral wings Going on behind it like dipping it. What is that like a
honeypot? Like what's going on down there? Is it a honeypot? Is it molten lava? Is it molten lava? They're like part of their stand is made up of books, you know, so we have this kind of like high fantasy We've got all of these like are they wine bottles or are they potions?
You know, we got gear going on. It's like an imaginative, you know dreamscape or hellscape depending on the day and I think that like what this card is saying for me more than anything else is just I'll let my freak flag fly like stop trying to button it up for other people's comfort like stops trying to you know Be a normie and just accept the fact wait when When when have you been a normie?
I've never I I care to an obnoxious degree what other people think I've never tried to be a normie But I have definitely spent a lot of like time trying to be like palatable and fit in Mmm, and the thing is is that nobody likes everybody like Mmm, and everybody doesn't like somebody and so like they're gonna be people out there who just simply aren't gonna like me. Um, and Standing a little bit, you know worrying less about what other people think of me as part of
my decision-making process. Mm-hmm It's hard to read cards for yourself and it's even harder to read cards for yourself publicly publicly So if you have anything you would like to add I'll shut up now feel free No, I mean I think as you know, I get I don't know if I could really I can't really go into it But I I feel like that's pretty appropriate Right now, yeah, yeah, so That I prove those are
some tools in my toolkit. I we in our beautiful discord a little shameless plug here We have a channel called a case we we will corner And I will happily pull cards for anybody anytime So if you have a question you just slide on in there and you ask me and we will see man We'll see what the card say you have you you just latched on to this so quickly like I didn't though Oh, I had decks of cards for years that I never picked up That collected dust on a shelf that I knew I wanted like
I felt a pull towards and I knew I wanted to read tarot But it was a like I kept burying it deeper and deeper and didn't pick it up and didn't practice it cuz if at first I was like it's memorization.
Yeah, I don't want to memorize things Well, it's it's so funny because it's It is like being a game master and that you have to you have to know the rules enough to To learn when you can break them To learn when you can break them and and also to to make to get to the point where you you can be Natural and you can speak and you can make yeah, you can make decisions that you have. Yeah Yeah, that fit the people that you're talking to Playing with yeah, and I used to do that
About all things spiritually. I like I've
been into spiritual things. I Mean really since college like yeah Interested in aware of but I I thought I didn't realize how much we can be our own channels for the divine whoo Everybody has get these gifts There's it like it is how much you want to tap into them and like I learn them and master them but it was years between me like showing an interest and like Dibble dabbling and actually doing something about it in true ADHD Yeah, and in beautiful ADHD fashion full ADHD fashion. Yeah I'm on
board man. I am I am 200% on board Whoo, whoo. Yeah, we're not having a case we will corner Well on that in a case Fun land. Yeah, I mean look toolkits again. I I urge you you being Anyone who's listening I urge you to hear whatAlison is saying and say oh, yeah That's like blank for me. Mm-hmm, whether you're practicing it now or whether you have
practiced it in the past. Yeah, I Feel like I have powers when I do blank Mm-hmm you there's something I promise you I promise you I I don't care you could be the most Self-negative violent person towards yourself But there is something in your life Maybe it was when you were 10. Maybe it was Dungeons and Dragons. I don't know but whatever that thing is Life is tough right now for a lot of folks Why not find the things that make you feel like you
have magical powers? period Without shame without any of that stuff Well, yeah, I think that was where it was somewhere around 2020 That I really like took off with all of like the spiritual stuff. Mm-hmm Because yeah, there's a lot out there that's toxic positive positivity And so what spirituality is not is it is not encouraging you to not feel your feelings What is the big spiritual thing that we all love to say is like where your focus goes your energy
flows? Pay attention to what you're focusing on This is why social media can be incredibly dangerous because it's constantly like putting these things In front of our faces that are bad and it's doom and it's gloom and it's terrible and it's awful I'm not saying that like there are atrocities happening every second in our world right now and I am by no means saying like don't pay attention But if that's all you're giving your focus to what this practice has been about for me
is like paying attention to my own words So when some it's as simple as when somebody asks you how are you doing? If my answer is always I'm so stressed.
I'm so tired and that was always my answer Yeah for many many many many years if you said I also hey So much going on yeah, and even if you don't necessarily mean it that negatively it's like oh my god I've got so much going on but the more you tell yourself you tell that story Yeah, like the busier you feel so one thing I did at the beginning of my spiritual practice is I abolished the
word Busy from my vocabulary. I was no longer allowed to tell myself or anybody else that I was busy Because busy had taken on such a negative connotation in my life, right? We talk about this a lot in terms of like the justice the injustices that we feel as neurospicy types And how we might feel them a little bit harder with our brains. Yeah, so like Paying attention to words like that of like busy busy work. Why am I doing this? I'm grinding. It's hard. It
hurts I'm stressed like mm-hmm. So instead like It's not a fake it till you make it it's not a toxic positive Ben, but it's like Instead of saying busy my days are full You know like finding those like little micro tweaks that we can make daily and then eventually you've you stop needing to say I'm busy you start saying I have a lot going on. That's really exciting. Can I tell
you about it? Yeah right So Starting there starting with the I'm not telling you to ignore your feelings when you're sad Please feel sad when you're angry is feeling a no problem. No problems there, but it stopped dwelling in the anger Don't be angry for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks on that Don't let it be beat you if you can yeah, like don't let it don't let it if you can if you can yeah you know Life is like life can be hard. It can be
sad. It can be Frustrating it can be unfair. It can be all kinds of things But but yeah, you're right you have tiny changes that you could yeah make I gotta put my focus on what feels good And what feels really good is creating weird Shit with you guys. Yeah playing video or video games. Yes, and also
Tabletop role-playing games. Yeah Reading tarot going on walks, you know playing music bingo and Thursday nights Yes Yeah, and I'm excited about this year Matt if mastery is the word like when you think when I think of master Like let's take back that word I know it also has some negative connotations that we're aware of But I also think of like a master carpenter who is at the top of their game the one that like everybody wants to study with and learn from and
like all of those people who are at the top of their game have a toolkit and like How cool is it that like bit by bit episode by episode you and I are gonna build our own tool kits We're gonna hopefully help and inspire y'all to build yours and like we're gonna come out of this year like different changed like Leveled up we can't help it. It's just going to happen. I mean that we're gonna force happens
period. Yeah No, we're going to force you we're gonna come into your living room This has to be a journey that you want to partake in but like and and hopefully it'll be a dialogue where we can hear what? Are in y'all's tool kits That's super important to me this year if if possible because I become inspired by hearing about other people's tool kits And also, I love talking and thinking
about them. Mm-hmm. It actually helps me to hear other people's stories and other people's Findings and other people's
challenges. Sometimes you might save me time and I because this is our podcast I kind of feel like I trust y'all more than Just the blanket internet That happened in our discord where somebody was like, oh, but you could go pull up, you know Google reviews I was like, I trust anything said in our discord a million percent more Oh my god, that I trust some five-star review on some website If y'all are gonna take the time
to tell me about it. I'm a thousand percent gonna listen to you I'm going to I mean we we just had a live stream today and It's Valentine's Day as we're recording this and we asked people for their Valentine's things that they would send Their Valentine's which is really just favorite people favorite podcasts games things that we have never heard of and I immediately wrote all of them down I've got a whole ton of lists now filled with New things that I have to
check out and that's And I know they're gonna be good and they're in their own way because I I trust the people's that And then that also feeds back into this topic of like look at all these people focusing on the things they love. Mm-hmm That's the whole game you guys if Things are gonna come into your view that you're not gonna say cool What do I love?
Yeah So well you may not I love you Let's make it creepy as we We're glad we have permission toolkits mastery More guests more episodes more episodes Uh, these are all the things that are happening in 20 25 for 20 Well, happy episode one thanks for coming on our podcast thank you Podcast. Thank you. That's what you know, that that is a good new way to end this. Yeah Thank you all for coming on our podcast.
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